general-chat

[upper rain]

I LOVE GIGABYTE RAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[frigid stag]

14700k

[dusk knot]

L

[misty sparrow]

I can't believe it lasted this long, lasted longer than Halo 3 servers, Concord, and in that timeframe we got several Last of Us 1 releases and the entirety of GTA (as of now)

[dusk knot]

concord lmaoooo

yeah...im shocked people still had a use case for it

maybe those who didnt bother upgrading?

crazy

[tranquil pebble]

anything beyond a text terminal would just be... unusable lol

email client might be able to send stuff ig

but forget about using the web, at all

[dusk knot]

hm

maybe ther elderly used it

idk lol

its like finding out a big name company still makes floppy disks or

Video cassettes

[tranquil pebble]

Floppy drives should have outlasted dial up ngl

[frigid stag]

They did for most people at least

I don’t know anyone running dialup

[tranquil pebble]

my only use case for it would be to try to play Bad Apple on modem ring noises ngl

[frigid stag]

The people who have it probably don’t even use any computers or devices

[icy ore]

Wonder if next Intel CPUs are actually gonna be worth a shit 💀

[tranquil pebble]

The e core shenanigans seem like maybe not

lpe cores going to be a whole new headache

[hoary zodiac]

Intel better be good

[frigid stag]

Next intel cpu all p core

[hoary zodiac]

We don't want a repeat of quad cores for a decade again

[tranquil pebble]

people should just contact Gigabyte asking how to use the bundle lol... en masse

[craggy shoal]

Just woke up from a ten-year coma. Is Intel still kicking it with four cores?

[frigid stag]

50 cores but still dual channel

Quad channel is nice to have

[tranquil pebble]

I had a dream that DDR7 released and every pin on the DIMM was a channel

[icy ore]

Dang

Imagine

[hoary zodiac]

I had a dream

[dusk knot]

hm

same

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-smith-roger-smith-american-dad-gif-5949428

[lone mango]

fr

[rancid juniper]

fr

[hoary zodiac]

fr

[royal crow]

#graphics-cards message

[dusk knot]

Lol

How high was the score?

[royal crow]

My cat woke me up before we got results😭

Irl tho my card gets 16859

[dusk knot]

Hm

[novel ferry]

this shouldnt exist, nothing better than a H610 for much cheaper price 💀

[dense locust]

So much cpu support

[novel ferry]

beside i7-i9 and K series i5 13-14th gen, they are all 12th gen

i3 12-13-14th = i3 12th, i5 non-K = 12th gen

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/iris-kymm-iriskymm-buffer-slow-gif-22675505

[lone mango]

I just ran talon on iot enterprise

2.5 gigs of ram and 85 processes

[acoustic palm]

4 + 1 + 1??

😭

[lone mango]

My first board also had 4

But it powered a 2600

And it was never at full load

[novel ferry]

Yup. Except for RAM OC capability, it is a shitty H610

[hoary zodiac]

Wtf

This is a glorified H610

You'd think they'd put better vrms since it's intel

[novel ferry]

Yeah, H610M H V3 in disguise

[hoary zodiac]

I like how they got the 4+4 pin eps12v

As if the vrms can even handle it

[elfin mural]

people are changing their google pfp to clippy in protest

following louis rossman's vid advocating protest against google

silent protest to data mining and unethical ai training

[hoary zodiac]

Change your linkedin profile to clippy

[novel ferry]

8pin. Since it is cheaper to do a big amount. Economy of scale

[hoary zodiac]

Eh?

That's the same thing

[novel ferry]

At least MSI B6/760M-E get m.2 at pcie 4.0 speed, this has m.2 at pcie 3.0

[novel ferry]

4+4 sound like 2 separated header

[hoary zodiac]

Technically you can have only 4 plugged in

And if it's an i3 (or anything that doesn't draw much power) it'd be fine

[elfin mural]

i mean 2 separated header can result in cheaper price still

since you gotta order even more at scale

[hoary zodiac]

They already have h610s that use them so

🤷‍♂️

Wait they don't wtf

That's asus that's got the 4 pins

Nvm they do have them

[novel ferry]

You can't trick SI and Retail with 4pin. 8pin sound much better

[elfin mural]

i think it's all subjective

[novel ferry]

It is all about the marketing and maximize profit

[elfin mural]

since the end result is the same

[hoary zodiac]

I think we're getting way too wrapped up in semantics here

We are literally talking about the same connector

[elfin mural]

the vrms can't physically handle high power cpus anyway

[hoary zodiac]

For the purpose of this discussion I don't think we need to go onto the semantics of "4+4 vs 8 pin"

[lone mango]

Yo I should do this

Actually no I have no presence on there

[hoary zodiac]

No don't

That's career suicide

[lone mango]

Yeah

Brother gonna stay jobless forever

[hoary zodiac]

It works if you got a reputation

But if you're just the average joe

It's practically suicide

[lone mango]

I hate linkedin so much

I am uninstalling the app after I get something

[hoary zodiac]

Nah

Make posts glazing yourself

You don't use it for yourself

You use it to manipulate employers

[lone mango]

Damn

u might be right

[lone mango]

hmm

[silk lily]

I have decided to quit PvP games

[lone mango]

not sure if i should put w11 iot enterprise on my desktop

[hoary zodiac]

Welcome to the club

[silk lily]

After losing in tf2 I bashed my head into my keyboard and now it's destroyed

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

Ok that's a skill issue

[hoary zodiac]

Depends

Do you need windows?

If so

Yes

[silk lily]

I wanted to hurt myself because I suck at gaming and yet I failed

So I think I'm done for a while

[hoary zodiac]

Brother it's a video game

Always remember that

[lone mango]

Play deep rock galactic

[silk lily]

I can't play anything

[lone mango]

If you get mad in deep rock then you have a problem

[hoary zodiac]

Play... Actually no don't play paradox games

[silk lily]

I don't have a keyboard

So no

No more games for me

[hoary zodiac]

I play rule the waves 3

[silk lily]

Not even hearts of iron 4

[hoary zodiac]

I can live without a mouse

But I can't live without a keyboard

[lone mango]

https://a.co/d/d4go6a5

Prime one day ship

[hoary zodiac]

knob control

[lone mango]

They have some wholesome translations

[silk lily]

I don't got money

[hoary zodiac]

I want a laptop with a low profile mech

Trackpad is uh

[silk lily]

I used the last of my money on toilet paper

[hoary zodiac]

Optional

Welcome to the club

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

I bought discounted vegan croissants yesterday

It was vegan bread that was shaped like a croissant

[lone mango]

Kinda sorta

[hoary zodiac]

Didn't taste like a croissant

[hoary zodiac]

Can it be done in a vm

If no

Install windows

Or if you're on a laptop and don't want the battery life penalty

[lone mango]

ima shrink btrfs and clone windows to the free space on there

then clone linux to my new drive

so the old samsung will have windows and the new drive will have linuix

[hoary zodiac]

how's btrfs going

[lone mango]

i have had very few issues with it whatsoever

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

[lone mango]

i think it is great but there is a speed penalty because of cow

[hoary zodiac]

I really should set up my new server

But like

Assessments 💀💀💀

[lone mango]

Fortunately I am out of there

[hoary zodiac]

What major

[lone mango]

cis

[hoary zodiac]

huh

[lone mango]

concentrating in aws

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-cis-confeder-star-wars-clone-trooper-gif-26100258

Oh

Computer science?

[lone mango]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Lucky

[lone mango]

I have the aws cloud foundational cert

[hoary zodiac]

oooo

[lone mango]

I need to move up to solutions architect and then get azure

[hoary zodiac]

Ohhh

Do you need windows for a job

Ok definitely get it

[lone mango]

No its just to perhaps replace my windows 10

[hoary zodiac]

Don't let linux get in the way of work

[lone mango]

The main reason I installed 11 is because of battlefield

[hoary zodiac]

Ah 💀

[lone mango]

It keeps crashing windows 10

And it also feels weird

Its like as if I am playing on a 60 hz screen and get way over 60 fps

Like it just feels choppy but not choppy

[fresh timber]

thickpads are mid

[lone mango]

Grok is this true

[icy ore]

That’s odd, wonder if that’s my buddy’s issue too. His just kept crashing

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qN130ySBqE @idle nexus someone beat your record for most copper used xD to cool a pc hehe

his looks literally like steam punk xD style

its like fallout theme

[pliant berry]

That’s sick

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXVQVbAFh6I

[craggy shoal]

Man I really hope they do something

Actually idec. I just hope AMD will still have a competitor

No competitor to AMD = insanely high AMD CPU prices

[frigid stag]

make huge deal out of cpu wonky vid
say it’s flaw in silicon
wasn’t
why intel failing

Techtubers helped a lot to make it that way tbf

Can blame intel for it too obv, but nowhere near the same shit when amd CPU’s were melting, or still are with asrock boards

[royal crow]

@random osprey @elfin mural scambot

Its in every channel

@bitter solar too

[elfin mural]

tbh intel did mess it up hard lately

drama or otherwise

despite having a huge backbone being OEMs and datacenter

they're somehow slipping hard

mismanagement and delays

intel was supposed to deliver new nodes but never truly delivered any of them on time ever since the 10nm struggle

[royal crow]

Ahem

[elfin mural]

the rise of nvidia during the ai craze also doesn't help

intel never really managed to capture the hype train too

big missed market

oh right-

scam bot, oop

[dusk knot]

Rip intel

[upper rain]

b580 rahhhhh

[sinful blade]

New gpu pals

[royal crow]

Eyyy

[arctic lily]

Ayy welcome to the club

[upper rain]

hype! that is the photon?

[arctic lily]

Yup gunnir’s white photon

[upper rain]

nice nice

idk how the coolers compare tbh, but i see they are both quite bulky, so i approve

[arctic lily]

I’m very pleased with my 1440p performance, hope you get the same results

[arctic lily]

Is your card 2 slot or 2.5 slot

I also just noticed you have the same ram I had when I first built it

[upper rain]

TPU says 3, but i'm fairly certain it's a 2.5 lol

[arctic lily]

Same then

[upper rain]

they're probs measuring the shroud since it hangs down past the io shield a bit

[upper rain]

siliconpower?

[arctic lily]

Yeah

[upper rain]

nice

[arctic lily]

My cable management left a lot to be desired

[wary fjord]

must be nice

[upper rain]

wild lol, 90w under load

[gleaming sedge]

how hard is a elgato stream deck to set up? i was using a logitech farming side panel but im tired of how in the way it is. im not sure how it works so thats the question. does it just count as its own key? so like i can bind a button on a program to it or does it have pre programmed options?

[random osprey]

you just plug it in and install the software. there are pre-set buttons that you can setup like if you want a button to open up obs, you can do that or setup your own macro to do certain things

[pliant berry]

most of those controllers either interact with a programs api or setup as custom macros/function keys

[random osprey]

i mainly use my streamdeck to control my elgato keylight and for obs replay buffer feature but i have a page setup for helldivers

[gleaming sedge]

i want to use it for mainly discord controls, and clipping games

[random osprey]

ye you can

[gleaming sedge]

now i have to decide what size i want

[random osprey]

theres a discord profile you can download from elgato and for clipping games, you just need to setup a hotkey for the button

[tranquil pebble]

wonder if I could control an Arduino Giga with one lol

massive overkill for lulz

[gleaming sedge]

right now i have steelseries clipping and the button is tilde and i hate it so much

[random osprey]

depending on how many buttons or actions you want/need, the mini is good to pickup used, otherwise the neo since it has 8 keys and 2 touch points and a small little info bar

also

@pliant berry buy this

elgato has a rack now for stream decks

[pliant berry]

ikr, I saw them when I was at bild expo this year

[random osprey]

control everything in your room with a elgato stream deck

[gleaming sedge]

this looks pretty useful

[pliant berry]

would honestly not be a terrible idea for some people I know that do mobile livestreaming

[random osprey]

huh, they sell just the module now as well so you can make your own custom casing

neat

@gleaming sedge another thing you can do as well is if you got a tablet or phone lying around doing nothing, you can use the stream deck mobile on it as well. not sure how good it is though or what the latency is like

[gleaming sedge]

i have tried that and it was very meh in my opinion

[tranquil pebble]

The stream deck likely uses a microcontroller which is going to be much lower latency than a phone app lol

[pliant berry]

yeah the phone apps usually go through networking so it's not very fast

[rigid sinew]

GOOD MORNING FELLOW WEGG PEEPS

[upper rain]

gm naht

[dusk knot]

Gm, naht

[random osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/haim-haimbs3-celev-gif-13426759962298144147

[dusk knot]

Morning, 🐺

[random osprey]

wasted my sunday and saturday

[frosty sinew]

Brrrrt

[random osprey]

slept for like 12 hours saturday, and slept for like 14 hours sunday

[dusk knot]

So did I

[gleaming sedge]

also im trying to achievement hunt borderlands 1 and i need the game with fame achievement what would be the best way to find someone with this so i could get it?

[peak heart]

Corpse

[elfin mural]

if intel really collapses

i fear for amd abusing the monopoly

[dusk knot]

Where on earth is NgreedAi reflex 2

[elfin mural]

the signs are up in the air

intel could be cooked

having to outsource marketing and having only 18 months left to get a 'hero customer' to want 18A node from intel foundry or the company goes bust

[dusk knot]

Sad.

[upper rain]

idk what to think about winding down fabs

on one hand they kinda need them ideally, but on the other hand they can't get customers. so the ideal probably isn't viable

[elfin mural]

intel might have to cut its fabs permanently to survive as a last resort

[nocturne flicker]

Gonna drag this out in a year

[elfin mural]

the cpu degradation issue striked fear in everyone aware of the issue

literally was free marketing for amd

i don't even know how intel can mess up that badly

[upper rain]

i guess their simulations are much worse than AMD's. afail Intel takes multiple steppings to get to final silicon. AMD meanwhile has launched A0 silicon several times now

[dusk knot]

CPU degradation....holy

[elfin mural]

i guess so

[upper rain]

admittedly there is soooome possibility that a little bit of the cursedness with certain 7900 XTXs might be that the a0 silicon is a little chopped, but overall they seem to do well

[elfin mural]

and also perf regression in ultra 200 series, though patched

is too late

[upper rain]

is it even fully patched? afaik it's still only barely faster than RPL despite RPL getting slightly nerfed and ARL using a wayyyyy better node

[elfin mural]

yeah it's not really fully patched yet

the failure in all fronts is piling up

[upper rain]

Nova Lake seems promising at least

[elfin mural]

i hope so

[upper rain]

me too, considering i'm buying it lol

[frigid stag]

Slower

For gaming

[arctic lily]

it was quite the upgrade from an rx580

[upper rain]

i'm pretty sure after patch it wins marginally but tbh i don't completely remember

what are you running, tomie?

[wary fjord]

everything is fine dont worry intel is backed by US right? xD its their pride and joy.. that fav kid

[arctic lily]

and then I did this
"Gunnir Photon Arc B580 White OC
No OC: 2.9 ghz

100% voltage and 102% power, no clock offset: 3.3 ghz

clock offset 50 = 3.35

100 = 3.4

150 = 3.45

200 = 3.5

Occt confirmed what intel graphics software is saying, the card is indeed at these frequencies

3.5 ghz oc fails heavy 3d adaptive, 25 seconds in

3.4 ghz passes stable with heavy 3d adaptive"

[sinful blade]

Now who was the problem in this game

[elfin mural]

not really, it's nvidia

[arctic lily]

"pls goth mommy"💀

[upper rain]

can't blame a guy for trying

[sinful blade]

Next game

I carried so hard

[fresh timber]

hello egs

weggers

nobodys buying my pc for $1250 🙁

i just want 9800x3d

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102940078505984/1401426468654813184/petpet.gif

congrats on the b580 @upper rain

[nocturne flicker]

The gov't won't do anything. It'd take them months or years to pass anything that'd be able to help Intel and current policy is too schizo for it to be of any use

[upper rain]

ty ty. did i tell you i scored an a770 le too?

it should be shipping somewhat soon

[fresh timber]

my theory, is the most they will do is make sure intels technology is still alive

[upper rain]

nobody wants my kit either lol

[fresh timber]

nope

[upper rain]

im probs going to have to hwswap it

[worthy meteor]

Intel is gonna live one way or another, the question is if it'll get acquired, if it'll turn itself around, or if it'll get government funding

There's always a chance of being absorbed by the military industrial complex and given huge contracts

[nocturne flicker]

It does have gov't funding. On the fabs that are being blown up

[fresh timber]

if i use hw swap i have to decrease my price

[fresh timber]

must of had raptorlake chips in them

[upper rain]

if i use hwswap i get to increase my price

[worthy meteor]

It needs more for current operations, not more money to build more fabs lol

[nocturne flicker]

I know what we can do, make foreign countries put tariffs on Intel cpus in retaliation and chill the entire PC market by having schizo tariff policy

[upper rain]

threaten to nuke tsmc if they don't give us the GAAFET secret sauce

tbh GAAFET might be where intel turns fabs around

it's a totally different design, anybody's game

they need to really actually execute though

[dusk knot]

blade too OP. plz nerf

[sinful blade]

I saw my first movement cheat today

Magik going half a mile with her portal

Every time

Not even comboing with a dash

Like straight after a portal, she’d go like 30 extra feet

[dusk knot]

lol

[sinful blade]

Shocking movement coming from a level 3 account

[dusk knot]

I yet to see one yet....unless theyre like a server ping hack that I'm not aware of. in some matches, i get extreme ping lose without warning

[dusk knot]

DING DING

hacker

new account

or alt

[proud jackal]

[upper rain]

set fan curve in Intel software
mouse disconnects
windows freezes
motherboard debug LED starts flickering

truly an Arc moment

my board is convinced it's trying to POST rn but this is my monitor lmfao

[dusk knot]

the 6090 grind never stops

[random osprey]

well there you go, you started to flatten it towards the top instead of keeping it as an arc

myb, someone demod me

[dusk knot]

haha pun

but he has no control over that

intel buggy

[upper rain]

a770 shipping soon

[fresh timber]

bro

im not going to argue with somebody paid to shill intel

💀

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

xfx spotted, explode his house

cloud how do i tell an intel employee hes wrong

[lone mango]

Damn my house should have burned down then

[fresh timber]

he said its not asrock problem...

[lone mango]

It is amazing

[fresh timber]

should i A, ignore him

[upper rain]

should i start btching about arc in that server? would that go over well?

[fresh timber]

or B, call him a idiot

[lone mango]

Say low iq

[fresh timber]

just talk shit about your card and how it breaks

💀

[upper rain]

yeah pretty much what i meant lol

dm me an invite and i'll start complaining

[fresh timber]

then show a photo of all your arc cards to prove you are certifieid

lmfaooo

[upper rain]

based and arcpilled user

[fresh timber]

give a genuinly review and how it doesnt perform how you like

and how youre going back to AMD

or somehting

[upper rain]

my nick will be "based and arcpilled radeon user" instead lol

[lone mango]

Arcpill

[fresh timber]

ill join you

[lone mango]

I love crashing im so arcpilled

[upper rain]

hold up i'll send you a pic of the a770 and you can say it's yours

then i'll have the b580 as mine

and we can complain together

it will be peak

[fresh timber]

💀 okay

wait

i have intel cpu

[upper rain]

oh true

tell them ur raptorlake is melting

ringbus instability

[arctic lily]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-26918549

[elfin mural]

little did he know that the company he's shilling is falling apart

[upper rain]

HYPE

[upper rain]

i'll buy so many Arcs that they'll stay in business

(Intel loses money on their GPUs at MSRP)

[elfin mural]

do it while intel is still standing

[upper rain]

if intel dies i stop getting gpu drivers

this is unacceptable

[fresh timber]

little did he know, he will have no job

LMFAO

[elfin mural]

oh he works at intel?

double rip

[dense locust]

They should’ve kept the first ceo tbh

[elfin mural]

pat gelsinger was the one

but the management said no

[dense locust]

“He took to long”

[lone mango]

Ok pat you can come back now

[pliant berry]

man it's gonna be an hour before the render even starts

https://i.imgur.com/za7PW1H.png

[rancid juniper]

Notice that management are just the people in suits not nerds. They probably don't know how to convert a word document.

[elfin mural]

ya

intel is a tech company

and tech needs money before all the profit comes after the company actually makes, guess what? a GOOD product

[pliant berry]

https://i.imgur.com/wiSpDKk.png

this has got to be one of the silliest things I've seen

[royal crow]

I thought that was a joke

[random osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/impractical-jokers-murr-darwin-on-his-way-to-the-bathroom-gif-18277998

[sinful blade]

They exist

I’ve seen them

[royal crow]

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/a-guy-in-california-is-suing-microsoft-for-discontinuing-windows-10-demanding-free-extended-support/

Absolute legend

[tranquil pebble]

What they should be sued over is over bloating their OS to no end

[proud jackal]

[tranquil pebble]

and also for 24H2... no excuse for releasing that in such a terrible state that potentially could break systems

[pliant berry]

ehh I say let them dig their own graves

[tranquil pebble]

when windows loses market share might be when they start learning

and I'm going to laugh if it ends up being too late

[tranquil pebble]

time to get the popcorn then ig

[pliant berry]

fr

im already back to dual booting

[lone mango]

Apparently it is good now

As in not broken

Depending on who you ask windows will always be bad

But in windows context it is apparently good now

It kept going up

I think if it kept going i would hit 600

[royal crow]

Does anyone know why blender doesn't render anything with a radeon gpu

[lone mango]

cuda

[tranquil pebble]

little late for the systems it likely broke ngl

[royal crow]

Huh

I set it to HIP

[lone mango]

Well what I saw was from earlier this year

But yeah even then

[lone mango]

Blender is just doodoo on amd

Unfortunately

Probably one of the biggest weaknesses of amd imo

[royal crow]

So i just... cant use it?

[lone mango]

You can use it, render times will just be really slow

[royal crow]

Oh

Ill js switch to integrated whenever I need to render sm then

[lone mango]

Waiting for rocm to fix everything

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[misty sparrow]

actually can't believe Sal laughed to this

he laughs to the dumbest things imaginable

[lone mango]

Its not that slow but it is slow compared to nvidia

Like 2x

[royal crow]

Yea

[lone mango]

a770 is faster than 9060 xt in renders

Its bad bro

[royal crow]

My specific problem is that no rendering engine works, it just stays on default

Let alone render anything

[lone mango]

In this guys benchmark a 2060 super is beating it by a little bit

[royal crow]

HOW

Gonna write my own software patch atp😭

[wary fjord]

lucky trade

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/fggKMDdX7ow

[fresh timber]

chat

chat

@lone mango @wary fjord

somebody offfered me $900 for my pc

do i take it

@rough zinc u too ur smart

[misty sparrow]

well which PC even is it

[lone mango]

Push to 1k

[misty sparrow]

you have like three of them

[fresh timber]

the main rig

13600kf 7700xt pc

the rgb one

[fresh timber]

$1k? okay

[misty sparrow]

hey that's pretty good i guess

$1k

[fresh timber]

with $1000 i can make the new pc and be hapy

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/1mwDijpAT9c?si=CUU2yHQBJLErGDF_

[nocturne flicker]

What is that title

[lone mango]

Thats just how he do it

[dusk knot]

Not always

[lone mango]

just made this fr

[dusk knot]

Lmao

[dense locust]

[nocturne flicker]

I'm not having fun

I'm also not playing BF6

Waiting for ingredients to come to room temp for baking

Making cheese cake of the Basque variety

[tranquil pebble]

I'm already benefitting from ROCm. Just have to use Linux for it.

For Radeon, compute loads are way better on Linux than on Windows

[potent dune]

uh gang why does RGB stay on when my pc is off? I can't remember how i fixed it before

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

[potent dune]

?

[royal crow]

Its plugged in

[potent dune]

how do I make it turn off tho

they used to turn off themselves

[royal crow]

When did it start happening

If you switch the psu off does it stay on?

[potent dune]

after I updated my drivers in GCC

[potent dune]

no

but i dony wanna have to enable and disable every time

[royal crow]

Hmm

I have a similar issue with my kb, if i press a key it turns the rgb on

[pliant berry]

man I love windows. why the hell am I not allowed to select a network path to locate files inside of adobe and why does adobe's media browser not show network paths

[upper rain]

glad to know i am not alone in being baffled

[somber badge]

What is the techie role for?

Nevermind

The roles list seems to be outdated, someone should edit it

[pliant berry]

yeah prob hasn't been updated in a minute

[random osprey]

its time

for anime 2

[somber badge]

Can I apply for the techie role

[nocturne flicker]

I just realized my pan is 9 inches in diameter instead of 8. And I've already filled it

It'll be fine surely

[pliant berry]

it's not something you apply for. we just watch and recommend certain people

[sinful blade]

I’ll let naht know

[upper rain]

if the pan was made by a man ur probably good

[nocturne flicker]

What?

Panman?

Making all them pans

PanAm

It is a springform pan

It should be fine

[sinful blade]

@rough zinc I fixed the word traded

[nocturne flicker]

Oh is it because dudes...embellish. I understand now. No I measured the pan

[somber badge]

@sinful blade

https://cz.pcpartpicker.com/product/9xYfrH/gigabyte-b850-gaming-x-wifi6e-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-gaming-x-wifi6e Rate these VRMs

[nocturne flicker]

I rate them at VRMs out of 10

[sinful blade]

I cannot for the life of me get it to translate

[upper rain]

unless they used actual garbage power stages it's fine

kinda hard to screw up a 12 stage even if it's doubled. you need to be trying to build a bomb for it not to be a competent vrm, at least from a current handling perspective

[worthy meteor]

Product page says "parallel power design" so it's just 5+2+2 but twinned on the CPU end

twinned ends up being good enough anyways

[hoary zodiac]

Hmmm

Honestly probably fine for an X3D

[worthy meteor]

once again most of the modern boards have overbuilt vrms so it doesn't matter much

[hoary zodiac]

Most of the good ones

There's the good ones

And then there's whatever on the bottom barrel

[worthy meteor]

I mean this is overbuilt for what is the mid budget segment

this isn't like 4 single stages

[hoary zodiac]

True

This is why I usually recommend B650/B580 even on the highest end cpus

They're just good enough really

[worthy meteor]

like I honestly think that board would be good enough to run like a 9950x3d on paper

given some airflow in the case

[lone mango]

Traded

Fix confirmed

[hoary zodiac]

It probably is tbh

[lone mango]

I think I got muted 4 times

[hoary zodiac]

It'd got proper vrms

And proper heatsinks

You can probably push it a bit

I wish the US market had... More options

In $100-$160 range it's either an X3D capable board or a bottom barrel trash vrm board

... Or an asrock

[lone mango]

Windows should use the 100 mb efi instead of the 2 gig fat32 cachy made right

[hoary zodiac]

Windows makes its own

[lone mango]

I hope it is smart enough to make this decision correctly

[lone mango]

There already is one from w10

[hoary zodiac]

Hopefully

[lone mango]

It should use this instead

I hope

[hoary zodiac]

Windows shouldn't straight up wipe efis

It usually makes a new partition

If it doesn't know what it's looking at

[lone mango]

If there are existing ones it will use one

[hoary zodiac]

Windows 11 doesn't like sharing

[rough zinc]

Huuuuge

[hoary zodiac]

At least with efis made from an linux system

[worthy meteor]

I wish it was all decent boards and no ASRock boards smh

[lone mango]

I have efi from 10 but cachy has /boot as fat32 because it has efi inside of there

[hoary zodiac]

There's the MSI B650-S and the B650 Eagle AX

That's literally all the options

I think you could get away with a 9800X3D on a B650-S

The vrms might be good enough?

yeah it's 2x6+2+1

[worthy meteor]

Oh yea the b650s is 6x2+2

[hoary zodiac]

it's out of stock half the time tho

There's the B650M-P

6+2+1

kinda mid but at the same time

compared to literally everything else

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/P6XphuL1o_A?si=f4dRyGXG6xBXUEke

😆

[hoary zodiac]

probably wouldn't put an X3D in it

9700x might be fine

oh wait it's out of stock

WAIT

NO WAY

WTF???

based?????????????????????

[worthy meteor]

Based

[lone mango]

Oh its a real discount

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[lone mango]

Not a gift card after purchase

[dusk knot]

Holy affordability

[hoary zodiac]

this is the ONLY board under $160

[worthy meteor]

Gift cards rarely ever get used smh

[hoary zodiac]

during the duration of this sale

this is unbeatable wtf

the only two decent boards in stock

and they're several dollars apart

that's insane

Eagle AX all the way

It's amazing that how you can get a X3D capable motherboard for around $150-160 these days

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

or $140 for this instance

[lone mango]

Great

The installer sees both the efi and fat32 /boot as System

Well I hope it goes from left to right

[dusk knot]

For now

[upper rain]

i love usps so much. absolutely mogs ups

[nocturne flicker]

Return to USPS monopoly plz

[royal crow]

Usps is the literal government portal company right?

[nocturne flicker]

USPS is the US Postal Service

[upper rain]

the only good government program

[nocturne flicker]

I.e. the government agency that handles all regular mail and a large percentage of all package deliveries

[upper rain]

usps is so good

[rancid juniper]

😂

[nocturne flicker]

Used to have a practical monopoly on packages too and used to serve as banks as well

[upper rain]

i will not rest until every USPS postal worker outranks even the highest millitary personel

total USPS dominion

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine a total war breaking out

The insane amount of logistics needed would probably make the USPS indispensable

[nocturne flicker]

Bring back the old hands, the USPS allowed firearms until 1972

[hoary zodiac]

USPS Minutemen

[nocturne flicker]

They also used to be armed as a standard before stuff like BRINKS

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

gotta be ready in case the British try to invade again

[upper rain]

retvrn

[lone mango]

Ok so I can remove the boot flag from /boot to encourage windows to use the esp w10 made

[nocturne flicker]

Nah, it was more because the USPS used to transport stuff like money and often had to deal with robberies themselves

Combine that with the fact that theft of mail is a serious crime in the US

[upper rain]

USPS needs to be made a new branch of the armed forces. i want tanks and f22's every time amazon loses my package. it will be retrieved and personally handed to me by the men and women of the united states postal service

[nocturne flicker]

Nah, can't do that, the USPS is prohibited by law from expanding their services, armed package retrieval can't be a thing

[worthy meteor]

USPS should get drones to track packages

Just give them a couple unarmed mq1s or smth

[upper rain]

laws can be changed

[nocturne flicker]

Actually it is a prohibition of nonpostal services

[upper rain]

armed drones that explode if stolen

[misty sparrow]

or have a war of the worlds type situation where ice cube has to order a thumb drive off ebay and the usps rolls up in a tank to deliver him the thumb drive

[nocturne flicker]

Congress had to grant an exception in a bill to allow the USPS to rent property

Had to make a carve out to allow them to process licences and permit transactions too

[upper rain]

millitarize the USPS and send them to occupy the senate and whitehouse in a throwback to the praetorian guard. then incorporate them legally into the armed forces

[worthy meteor]

Give every delivery truck an armed escort

[nocturne flicker]

Took 16 years for this

Also took 16 years to remove the benefit requirements designed to bankrupt the USPS

[upper rain]

every USPS truck should be escorted by an f22 fighter jet

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[royal crow]

No, YF-23

Better

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-treason-star-wars-emperor-gif-8547403

[lone mango]

Damn it

The white 9060 xt is like 1 hour away

[upper rain]

good deal?

[lone mango]

And +$20

[upper rain]

ah

[lone mango]

I want it but it is not worth

[upper rain]

i thought you already got one though?

[lone mango]

Its been 1 in stock for like a month

[lone mango]

Ngl I didnt really like the gigabyte one that much

So I got the xfx instead

This thing is cracked

[upper rain]

gigabyte slander will not be tolerated in this household, but i like xfx too

[lone mango]

I will post pics

[upper rain]

did u see my b580?

[lone mango]

Yeah it goes hard

[upper rain]

it's nearly as big as my 9070 lol

goated cooler

[hoary zodiac]

How good is the b580 is compute btw

[upper rain]

i'm curious which xfx model you got, some of them are very nice looking this gen

[upper rain]

i can bench for you, just lmk what you want me to run

mostly i've just been hitting 3dmark timespy, which is not an amazing proxy for compute lol

[lone mango]

Its huge

But inaudible

[upper rain]

based

somebody sent a pic of their powercolor 9060 xt next to a 6600

6600 was just heaps bigger lol

i feel bad for neat cards on baby coolers

[lone mango]

The powercolor one is actually pretty good

believe it or not

[lone mango]

The xfx is huge

325mm 9070

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-with-tongue-cat-smiling-gif-11949735780193730026

[lone mango]

I guess just reusing xt cooler

[upper rain]

most likely yah

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-rizz-face-shrek-shrek-meme-funny-gif-11681866407721108377

[upper rain]

who up xfxing they 9060 xt

[frosty sinew]

My laptop shipped

[upper rain]

nice nice

[frosty sinew]

Newegg gotta lock in

[lone mango]

ahaha

[frosty sinew]

I leave in 5 days for uni

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-no-scream-fake-laugh-side-look-gif-14432211

[upper rain]

they were locked out for me. my arc was delayed 3 days

[frosty sinew]

Mine had been one day for all my other orders

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-twitch-kick-crazy-gif-4090492289322768290

[frosty sinew]

Hopefully its the same

Knowing my luck prob not tho

[lone mango]

Linux driver wont let me go over the vbios limit

I can do 200w no worries but it wont let me

[upper rain]

if only there was a fella in this server who knew how to unlock your power limit in a safe and noninvasive way that keeps warranty intact

https://tenor.com/view/winky-gif-1096654309523310109

[lone mango]

flash it?

Actually

I wonder if cachy will let me change that

I found the parameter that sets the power limit but it wont let me save the file

[upper rain]

you can tape a bit of wire across a couple pins and it tricks the current monitoring IC into thinking ur not pulling any power. effectively unlocks the PL

and if you ever need to rma you just pull the tape and you're good to go

[upper rain]

if you're on linux there is a way to hook into the i2c bus without a breakout board and force an adjusted iout gain. can be used to increase or decrease PL above/below stock limits. no clue how to do it rho

[lone mango]

But then its gonna have high spikes because there wont be a limit right

I just wanna add 20w

[frosty sinew]

https://www.newegg.ca/Lenovo-14-WUXGA-Touch-Screen-AMD-Ryzen-7-8845HS-AMD-Radeon-780M-1-TB-PCIe-SSD-Gravity-Grey/p/1TS-000E-1BRW8?Item=1TS-000E-1BRW8

I tgink it was a good deal

649 cad is when I bought it

[upper rain]

it will just pull whatever it thinks it needs to pull within the stock voltage limit. so probs >20w increase

[lone mango]

Nice

Even 700 still good

[upper rain]

looks sweet

[frosty sinew]

Yeah it was open box so I figured why not

[frosty sinew]

But less good

Also when did igpus get good lol

780m is 1650 level

[hoary zodiac]

It didn't get good

it's generational improvement

it's always been good

[frosty sinew]

Well.... "good"

Still gets cooked by like 5 yr old cards

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[lone mango]

I have seen spikes up to like 230 or something in lact but the power limit stops it from actually drawing that, so if there was no limit this thing would be pulling 9070 power occasionally

[hoary zodiac]

if you're talking about relative performance

igpus haven't moved at all

[frosty sinew]

Its more than enough for like light games

Minecraft etc

[lone mango]

Idk if 230 is safe or not

[hoary zodiac]

so was igpus with older gpus

[lone mango]

230 is peak though

[upper rain]

it kind of balances itself out since there really is a limit to the current the card can pull at 1.1v or whatever. mine pretty much never goes above 400w unless i bump voltage up

[frosty sinew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper rain]

my 9070*

[lone mango]

I see

[hoary zodiac]

igpus have always been good for how much power they consume

[upper rain]

i assume 9060 xt would probs cap a little above 200ish w then, since it's a little more than 1/2 the shaders as 9070

[frosty sinew]

Yeah but they are way more usable now

[hoary zodiac]

at least assuming that you're on the latest igpu

ehhh

debatable

I'd say they're as usable as they are at any point in time

[frosty sinew]

Its 8th gen ryzen so almost

[hoary zodiac]

game requirements have also scaled up

[frosty sinew]

Minecraft rlly hasn't lol

[hoary zodiac]

minecraft is more cpu heavy than gpu

besides with older versions of minecraft you can technically run it on HD2000

[lone mango]

Minecraft has gotten more demanding after 1.21.4

[weak cedar]

rip 2 ram rgb lights don't work work anymore

[lone mango]

Idk when they gonna fix that

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

never

they'd rather make money off the bedrock store

[weak cedar]

yap but sorta

but yes

[frosty sinew]

True

[frosty sinew]

Thats no fun tho

[hoary zodiac]

I think I used to run 1.12 on a celeron

[hoary zodiac]

that's besides the point tho

[frosty sinew]

Yeah but like barely

[hoary zodiac]

igpus have always been decent

just like how the Ryzen 5 3400G is decent relative to the gpus era it was released in

[frosty sinew]

My atom igpu is not

[hoary zodiac]

ok to be fair that's an atom

that's made to be e-waste

by the time you fully use the igpu

the cpu's going to be running at 100%

It's not good in any capacity

[frosty sinew]

Hey it runs mint great

On 4gb of ddr3

[hoary zodiac]

if you compare it to a decent cpu of the era

such as the i7 4770

you'd find that the igpu is pretty decent for the era

[frosty sinew]

The igpu in the atom?

[hoary zodiac]

no

[frosty sinew]

Or the 4770

[hoary zodiac]

the 4770

[frosty sinew]

Yeah thats fair

4770 still isnt that bad tbh

[hoary zodiac]

it's really not fair to compare a older igpu to a newer generation of gpus

[frosty sinew]

Yeah fair enough I was just surprised it was 1650 level

[hoary zodiac]

that's what I usually run into when people say igpus are crap

someone with an intel hd 2000 is ofc going to have a terrible experience in 2018

[frosty sinew]

Yeah ur right

Til

[hoary zodiac]

the thing is

It's impressive if you look it from a 2020 lens

but at 2025

it's probably just as effective as a Vega 11 was in 2020

relative to today's titles

[frosty sinew]

I didnt think of it that way

I've just never heard them described as usable

[hoary zodiac]

They're always been usable really

People tend to exaggerate how bad igpus are

[frosty sinew]

Apparently

[hoary zodiac]

I play half my games off my zen 3 igpu

[atomic current]

my gt 730 was toast

[hoary zodiac]

I don't play any new games

[atomic current]

I think the intel HD on my 4790 would have been even more toast

[hoary zodiac]

that's why it works

[frosty sinew]

Well good news is nothing much was lost

[frosty sinew]

Fair enough

[atomic current]

oh no dw it still lives in stasis

[hoary zodiac]

GT 730 is barely faster than UHD630 iirc

different era but still

[atomic current]

gtx 970 took its place in the machine

[frosty sinew]

A potato is faster then a 730

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair it's a display adapter

not really meant to be a gaming card

[frosty sinew]

Yeah true

[atomic current]

2gb ddr3 gt 730

[hoary zodiac]

same with the 1030

oh ddr3

💀

is that even good as a display adapter

[atomic current]

it's fine

[hoary zodiac]

4k?

[lone mango]

gddr7 9070 xt

[atomic current]

probably runs 4k

[hoary zodiac]

that vram has me concerned

pretty slow ngl

[atomic current]

not like I had a 4k display to use at the time

[hoary zodiac]

true

[atomic current]

I had

1280x1024

[hoary zodiac]

at least you could drive a bunch of 1080p displays

[lone mango]

Windows uses 2 gigs after a day of uptime

[atomic current]

sometimes 1920x1080

[hoary zodiac]

that's the early win 7 era right?

[atomic current]

and sometimes 1680x1050

[hoary zodiac]

win 10*

or late win 7

[atomic current]

my old computer was win10 only

[hoary zodiac]

damn

win 10 is a lot older than I remember

[atomic current]

still runs, so we'll see how long windows 10 can run before it loses functionality due to lack of support

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder when microsoft will make a real OS

[atomic current]

true...

[hoary zodiac]

all the have to do is just

release IoT LTSC

they already have the product

I don't want garbage software on my pc ja

[lone mango]

At least iot

[hoary zodiac]

why does the stupid google photos app keep sending me notifications

[atomic current]

because it's poop

[hoary zodiac]

ffs

my phone is for communication

and it's clogged up by useless notifications

[upper rain]

4tb gen 4 for $40 from a seller with solid reviews

surely this is not real??

[worthy meteor]

Prob just the 1tb for $40

2tb/4tb prob separate price or separate listing

[weak cedar]

positive feedback can be faked

[worthy meteor]

Also it's only 52

Not too reputable

[upper rain]

i've selected the 4tb option, the 1tb is $30

[upper rain]

fairly old acc, a lot of the reviews go back years

[upper rain]

true but also..... i am tempted lol

[weak cedar]

like on amazon there usually product swiping there take a product with lots of review and switch the product out for another product but it will keep all the reviews and stars

[spare moth]

have been thinking about new bluetooth headphones, im thinking "Anker Soundcore Space Q45" anyone here with it ?

[weak cedar]

best gunny thing is when 5+ sellers are all selling with these same pictures

o wait sponsered so there probably advertising themselves

[upper rain]

(it must be real)

it's probably not but i admit i am tempted, what with ebay's lax refund policies

[worthy meteor]

Can always be a hacked acc

Esp if reviews have nothing to do with electronics

[upper rain]

truth blizzard

[upper rain]

couple of cases and fans and stuff, mostly just random junk

[worthy meteor]

You just waste time and some processing fees lol

But doesn't hurt much if you really want to try

[weak cedar]

it looks like this

like it's more then likely just 1 seller that has 20 accounts on ebay

you can try it to snag a deal but the refund you may not get refunded

[frigid stag]

You get refunded easy on ebay

[worthy meteor]

eBay is typically pretty biased towards the buyer

[upper rain]

yeah

[tranquil pebble]

Amazon once sent me an email specifically to tell me they removed the seller who attempted to scam me from their site. lol

[craggy shoal]

Bro bumping to Kesha 💀

I need a new pfp

[royal crow]

I'll never change mine

[dusk knot]

hm

wegg

and hearing loss

[craggy shoal]

And now we await for upset people

[dusk knot]

Yes

We wait

I'm soo bored

[frosty sinew]

Welcome to the club

7pm to 7am

Bored af

[dusk knot]

brazil

https://tenor.com/view/lost-go-back-jack-we-have-to-go-back-gif-5469258

*I

[lone mango]

Who pinged me

[frosty sinew]

@upper rain let's goooo its coming tomorrow

[fresh timber]

@wary fjord i found you

[frosty sinew]

Im telling you newegg shipping is fire for me

Its one day

[fresh timber]

your 5090?

[frosty sinew]

I wish lol

My budget laptop

[fresh timber]

oh

[frosty sinew]

https://www.newegg.ca/Lenovo-14-WUXGA-Touch-Screen-AMD-Ryzen-7-8845HS-AMD-Radeon-780M-1-TB-PCIe-SSD-Gravity-Grey/p/1TS-000E-1BRW8?Item=1TS-000E-1BRW8

650cad when I bought it

[fresh timber]

you should troll in amd server and is my 6700xt bottlenecking my 9950x3d

[frosty sinew]

And get absolutely hated on

Good plan

[fresh timber]

oh they wont hate

just confused

[frosty sinew]

Brb

[dusk knot]

[frosty sinew]

Im so excited for laptop

[frosty sinew]

I was recognized immediately

Lmao

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[frosty sinew]

Now ur framed

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[icy ore]

[acoustic palm]

its fire

[dusk knot]

[lone mango]

[random osprey]

battlefield twitter been going crazy all day over a clip

sad state fps gamers are in now, if youre too good, youre a mega sweat or cheating

[last mango]

Uh oh

[lone mango]

How is windows using 5 gigs when there are under 90 processes running

[proud jackal]

it hungers

[royal crow]

I just skipped to the bottom of my new messages and this caught me so off guard like it's not even funny

[misty sparrow]

which one is it

the one with the vtuber who may or may not be cheating?

[random osprey]

ye the catgirl vtuber. theyre literally just flicking and people think theyre cheating

[proud jackal]

flicking isn't new, but locking on to someone who was behind a wall is

[random osprey]

its really easy to flick onto someone behind a wall when theres a radar and a lot of people surrounding a spot on the map

or just to try and predict when someone is going to be there

[misty sparrow]

eh, i dont watch fps players but they look like snaps to me

then again the people in the video were either standing still or moving predictably

[proud jackal]

i used to be able to 180 snap headshot people

ah to be young again

[frigid stag]

you need controller aim assist

it makes it easy

[craggy shoal]

Controller aim assist isn't that crazy tbh

[random osprey]

depends on the game, cod now, yes its crazy. some players really struggle on any other game that doesnt have aim assist as strong as cods

[craggy shoal]

It's not even a quarter of the way of being considered a full lock-on

[random osprey]

had to remove audio cause friend and i were in call, but it really isnt hard to flick onto someone when you know someone can be there

[craggy shoal]

lol that’s what I'm saying

I did a whole 180 flick once. I was locked on the guy but he got me. It was CoD, AR vs AR and he was already facing me

I feel like I get reported sometimes but I've never been banned

[frigid stag]

on cod its kinda insane

[lone mango]

fr

[obsidian berry]

Covid lockdown cod snd lobbies were poggers

[misty sparrow]

thing is, in the video they did not look as smooth as flicks like these

they looked like straight snaps

not once did they smoothly go from person to person

[random osprey]

not really hard to do either if you know how to control your aim