It's really not that simple
#general-chat
hoary zodiac
elfin mural
increased latency isn't perceivable in my experience using it
hoary zodiac
Frame gen itself isn't too bad
shadow osprey
It doesn’t make the game run better
but then why does fps increase ?
elfin mural
but i do notice some ghosting
hoary zodiac
MFG in particular is a lot more latency prone
elfin mural
so frame gen generates fake frames
dense locust
but then why does fps increase ?
It uses ai to predict that should be in between those frames
elfin mural
it uses an AI model to guess what the next frame should look like
as well as render buffer info
shadow osprey
It uses ai to predict that should be in between those frames
so you dont get the responsiveness you would from real frames?
misty sparrow
Do any of them give back to the community? I know that in the 1900s we had people like Rockefeller constructing buildings and stuff for people using his own money
elfin mural
it guesses and generates frames based on info it knows
hoary zodiac
It's pretty self explanatory
misty sparrow
I don't know if billionaires still do stuff like that
hoary zodiac
The frames are generated
dense locust
That’s why there is added latency
It has to grab the next frame to generate the in between frame
dense locust
so you dont get the responsiveness you would from real frames?
No
shadow osprey
is the latency like a small 3-8 miliseconds
elfin mural
yes
shadow osprey
i mean at that point, wouldnt it be near undetectable
elfin mural
the additional latency is tiny
dense locust
Depends on the original frame rate
hoary zodiac
Depends
hoary zodiac
Framegen isn't too bad
elfin mural
make absolutely sure you can reach 60+ fps locked
shadow osprey
Depends on the original frame rate
lets say like 70
hoary zodiac
MFG on the the other hand
elfin mural
then frame gen will be useful
hoary zodiac
Would generate a lot more latency
wary fjord
20-240 fps but still feel like 20 but looks 240..
dense locust
lets say like 70
You’ll probably really be running at ~60 real frames with frame gen since there is a performance cost
elfin mural
you need at least locked 60 fps for frame gen to work without too much latency
hoary zodiac
Regardless of framerate
elfin mural
so you'd get "120" fps
wary fjord
Wdym looks 240
When u frame gen.. it looks high frame but it doesnt feel like it
Keyword is feel
dense locust
Reminder that frame gen also requires more vram
shadow osprey
You’ll probably really be running at ~60 real frames with frame gen since there ...
so your saying framegen shouldnt be used unless needed?
hoary zodiac
I'm more zeroing on the "looks" part
elfin mural
it does feel like it if you have a stable and high enough base fps
hoary zodiac
Than the "feel" part
dense locust
so your saying framegen shouldnt be used unless needed?
Yes
hoary zodiac
A frame at 20fps should look the same as 240fps no?
dense locust
Mostly if you really want your 120hz monitor to look smoother
hoary zodiac
Frame gen is fine as long as you don't use it in competitive games
elfin mural
it looks okay to me, even in fast paced single player games
dense locust
Eh I personally won’t use it
elfin mural
like dying light 2
hoary zodiac
I don't use FG or DLSS
shadow osprey
aside from framegen, what about fsr ? like one of my friends heavily told me to get the rx 9060 xt, FSR is so bad that i never even thought about getting it
wary fjord
A frame at 20fps should look the same as 240fps no?
In smoothness no.. visually probably
elfin mural
i don't notice much ghosting if at all in that game
fsr 4 is equivalent to dlss 3, so it is inferior to dlss 4 on nvidia side
dense locust
If your game has no ray tracing needs dlss that’s just a skill issue tbh
hoary zodiac
In smoothness no.. visually probably
Yeah but that's exactly what I said
elfin mural
im greedy with games sometimes
i run dying light 2 ultra non rt
60+ fps base
but i use fg lmao
shadow osprey
in a lot of games like, black myth wukong, when i enable fsr, everything becomes kinda blocky and pixelated especially the grass, its such a downgrade, even at fsr ultra quality
XeSS never had that issue
since dlss is considered the best i assume that wouldnt either
shadow osprey
yeah i always use XeSS
elfin mural
sometimes better than dlss
shadow osprey
wahhh wouldnt go that far
wait amd gpu can use XeSS?
i thought it was intel gpu exclusive
elfin mural
there's evidence of xess being better than nvidia's dlss lol
clearer fine details
better shadows
dense locust
How did intel of all companies make a better dlss competitor faster than amd
elfin mural
cyberpunk is best run in xess
hoary zodiac
To be fair it's intel
elfin mural
yes xess is universal
hoary zodiac
They have an entire enterprise sector
elfin mural
amd and nvidia can utilize xess
hoary zodiac
That's probably got a lot of experience in this sort of stuff
shadow osprey
better shadows
fps wise?
elfin mural
xess does have more performance cost
shadow osprey
since when can amd gpus use XeSS
elfin mural
but that's a trade-off with much better visual in certain cases
shadow osprey
that changes things entirely, rather than being locked to fsr
elfin mural
xess was always platform-agnostic
hoary zodiac
Does it run on linux lol
elfin mural
uh no
dense locust
I thought they used different profiles depending on if you have an Intel gpu or another gpu
shadow osprey
Oh, i've been using an intel gpu so i thought it was only intel exclusive, i also saw it on the box
hoary zodiac
oh well
wary fjord
How did intel of all companies make a better dlss competitor faster than amd
All this features has online research papers.. you can just improve other people work xD with your own twist after fully understand how it works
hoary zodiac
It's not that simple
shadow osprey
Oh, i've been using an intel gpu so i thought it was only intel exclusive, i als...
and before i get flamed for using intel gpu, it wasn't built by me
lone mango
Oh, i've been using an intel gpu so i thought it was only intel exclusive, i als...
There is xess that runs on all gpus and xess that runs on intel gpus
dense locust
Intel gpus are fine
elfin mural
drivers however are trash on intel gpus
dense locust
Might struggle on older games but they have been constantly updating
shadow osprey
every month theres a horrible update that ruins a lot of things and borderline makes games unplayable
elfin mural
i want to recc em so badly but driver issues plagues it
lone mango
Xess on intel gpus is better than on other cards
elfin mural
avoid intel unless you wanna suffer
hoary zodiac
Oh right y'all actually play games with them
dense locust
Weird how Intel has trouble with dedicated gpu
hoary zodiac
💀
shadow osprey
i have a arc a580
and SINCE a driver update 1.5 months ago, doom the dark ages just refuses to launch, this is a intel arc problem
dense locust
Is it really that different to make igpus
elfin mural
yes
hoary zodiac
Yes
elfin mural
igpus are more integrated to the system
lone mango
every month theres a horrible update that ruins a lot of things and borderline m...
Welcome back radeon
shadow osprey
i want to recc em so badly but driver issues plagues it
every new 3 weeks theres an update taht ruins everything
elfin mural
compared to a dgpu that can be paired with a bajillion diff hardware
shadow osprey
now i've actually got into reading driver patchnotes to decide if i should install or not
hoary zodiac
I'm surprised I haven't had any driver issues in the past year
wary fjord
Just keep installing it.. its gonna help them too if u crash . It will send the crash log to their server.
shadow osprey
also, is amd still bad for ray tracing ?
elfin mural
not really no
hoary zodiac
Define bad
hoary zodiac
Relative to 40 series? It's competitive
shadow osprey
Define bad
ray tracing not being that good and also coming at a horrible performance cost
since when did amd improve this much
elfin mural
rdna 4 is alright now with rt
hoary zodiac
It's about on par with last gen
elfin mural
^
shadow osprey
It's about on par with last gen
and 50s series ?
lone mango
Depending on the game it can beat last gen
dense locust
Oh it’s 2 am time to sleep
hoary zodiac
5070ti is around the same price range as the 9070XT tho
That's the only instance where any sane individual should buy nvidia
dense locust
5070ti is around the same price range as the 9070XT tho
It shouldn’t be but that’s another thing entirely
shadow osprey
Well here's the thing
i could get a 5060 ti 8G like i said, fairly around the same price as a 9060 xt
hoary zodiac
4070 super is the same price no?
lone mango
If only 9070 xt was at Europe pricing
shadow osprey
or if i decide to increase budget by like 100$ i could get 4070 super
lone mango
dense locust
8g 
hoary zodiac
Don't get a 8GB card over a 4070 super
misty sparrow
5070ti is around the same price range as the 9070XT tho
If 9070xt was on sale for $600-$650 though?
hoary zodiac
Just don't
hoary zodiac
If 9070xt was on sale for $600-$650 though?
Then yes
shadow osprey
and also all the cards here in my country cost 40% more for shipping and taxes whatever
hoary zodiac
But it's not
dense locust
You ain’t doing frame gen with 8gb
shadow osprey
a 4070 super is roughly like 750$
dense locust
You ain't doing anything with 8GB
720p gaming 
hoary zodiac
Wtf
lone mango
720p gaming <:meguuuclueless:1367984116338786404>
Incredible dlss 4 tek
Now I can game at 480p
hoary zodiac
That is an entire pc back in 2024
shadow osprey
a 4070 super is roughly like 750$
9060 xt i 600 something and 5060 ti 650
hoary zodiac
8GB?
dense locust
What currency is this
shadow osprey
9060 xt 16 g
elfin mural
man these gpu prices make me want to bawl my eyes out
lone mango
No
shadow osprey
Is the 5060TI 16gb?
if i increase my price range to 800$..
but no its 8g
shadow osprey
yes
elfin mural
that's foul ngl
hoary zodiac
Buy an xbox at that point
lone mango
Death
shadow osprey
why is shipping and taxes and such so high ?
hoary zodiac
Are you buying local?
elfin mural
uh, i suppose you should ask your country
lone mango
shadow osprey
uh, i suppose you should ask your country
give me the government's phone number
elfin mural
shadow osprey
Are you buying local?
local store?
nocturne flicker
911
hoary zodiac
.gov.de
dense locust
Is that cad?
lone mango
give me the government's phone number
Consult the oracle
shadow osprey
oh also did i specify that the 9060 xt one is used i think from the local store, used 9060 xt going for 600$, i think thats pretty fair
9060xt regular price is around 850$
hoary zodiac
https://www.baden-wuerttemberg.de/en/government or something
lone mango
dense locust
That 9060xt is 16gb right?
shadow osprey
That 9060xt is 16gb right?
yeah
shadow osprey
its regular price in online shop is 850$
hoary zodiac
That's almost twice of what it's worth
dense locust
“Regular price”
lone mango
Even at $600 it's a scam
Over there you gotta look relative, because everything is jacked up
hoary zodiac
It's relatively insane
shadow osprey
“Regular price”
yes
lone mango
So relative to the other cards, it is a lot better
hoary zodiac
$600 for stupid video games I'd rather never play a AAA game again
shadow osprey
smh, we need ww3 tbh soon for this economy
dense locust
$120 GTA 6
hoary zodiac
You do realize there's not going to be an economy
shadow osprey
You do realize there's not going to be an economy
so i dont have to pay rent or anything ?
shadow osprey
In any case,
nocturne flicker
I believe Boeing was referring to WW3 resulting in nuclear destruction 
hoary zodiac
Even if it's a conventional war
You're not going to be worrying about gpu prices
You're going to be worrying about not starving to death
lone mango
Fiber internet
hoary zodiac
A world war on a globalized economy would be devastating
nocturne flicker
Hold up WW3 going on today? Nah, don't care, need to check reddit
lone mango
I mean look at what the earthquake in russia did
shadow osprey
so what would the final verdict for my gpu be ?, 600$ for 9060 xt, 650$ for a 5060 ti 8G, or 4070 super for 750 roughy
lone mango
Charts nuked
shadow osprey
You're going to be worrying about not starving to death
okay okay, lets not make this a topic about that
hoary zodiac
Hold up WW3 going on today? Nah, don't care, need to check reddit
Assuming that North Korea doesn't send their goons to just wipe out the whole internet
hoary zodiac
The internet is probably the first to go down funnily enough
It'd do so much damage if say
An entire country was cut off from the internet
Let's say uhh
nocturne flicker
Ukraine 😐
nocturne flicker
Literally happened there
hoary zodiac
To be fair nobody would care about new zealand enough to attack it
When WW3 starts
The English are gonna be flooding through the channel tunnel
nocturne flicker
I would care. We must defend Hobbiton
lone mango
so what would the final verdict for my gpu be ?, 600$ for 9060 xt, 650$ for a 50...
Well the 4070 super is a lot faster than the 9060 xt, so you would be getting better value by getting that
Its like 40%+ faster
But if you play games that are easier to run, 9060 xt is still plenty fast
If not even 50% faster
lone mango
Fr
fresh timber
I farted
gleaming rivet
idle nexus
well dammit
VT3/FFTv4 ran 20 hours before PC crashed
that's pretty stable but not rock solid
heckkk
fresh timber
well dammit
your wife and daughter misses you
idle nexus
lol it just kinda runs in the background & when I see the horrible rainbow lights on the fans, I know PC borked out & restarted
heck... WinXP is running but keyboard & mouse don't work
fresh timber
chat guess what i did
wary fjord
heck... WinXP is running but keyboard & mouse don't work
Need ps2 keeb and mouse
Maybe driver issue.
wary fjord
chat guess what i did
fresh timber
Yes
tranquil pebble
acoustic palm
chat guess what i did
banned for rage baiting is wild
fresh timber
banned for rage baiting is wild
I’m swapping accounts
I’m ditching this one, only here for Newegg and a few other olaces
acoustic palm
rip
trail dragon
could i get an opinion on a pc for a friend i have a link but idk to much abt pc's and know just the minimum
paper verge
am back
upper rain
hi scammer
i stole you're social security
fresh timber
NOOOOOO
upper rain
i'm going to sell my arc or my 9070, whichever goes first
then i will buy b580 and a770 le, then i will sell the other one
i'm arcmaxxing
paper verge
only thing that goes on in intel server is mod bans
paper verge
cuz the mods lame asf ig
fresh timber
what do people do
upper rain
join the intel server and talk about your mods n cra
no mods yet bc my Arc is cursed and uses a voltage controller that literally only exists on two a770 models and has absolutely 0 documentation
upper rain
so i'm selling it so i can get an LE that has a voltage controller i actualky know how to mod
paper verge
have 2 more hours of english class
fresh timber
so i'm selling it so i can get an LE that has a voltage controller i actualky kn...
ask in that server if they know 💀
upper rain
ask in that server if they know 💀
i tried the Elmorslab server, and the consensus is basically that i'm fcked
i can do a voltage mod, but i can't bypass the power limits
so the voltmod would be useless
fresh timber
invite my new account to that server
fresh timber
there should be an invite link publicly online
okkk
upper rain
SOMEONE GETTING BANNED TODAY
relax i've only had three or four drinks
sinful blade
You can get a 9060xt 16GB for that
frosty sinew
You can get a 9060xt 16GB for that
its slow tho
sinful blade
It’s 35% faster
frosty sinew
frosty sinew
But raw performance
sinful blade
But much better fsr4
frosty sinew
Isnt that scaling
paper verge
very good scaling
sinful blade
I’ve had it on since I put it in
I’ve not noticed any artifacts on any of my games
frosty sinew
But
frosty sinew
No
sinful blade
Don’t lie to yourself
frosty sinew
Raw performance
sinful blade
frosty sinew
I do cad and rendering
sinful blade
Wack
frosty sinew
Upscale doesn't help there
frosty sinew
Sorry some of us are productive
sinful blade
Shaaaaaaaame
upper rain
dude i listed my Arc and got an offer instantly
unfortunately a lowball but still lol
rancid juniper
gonna use my laptop as a monitor using my capture card, i already miss using my desktop pc LOL
royal crow
What happened to it
paper verge
What happened to it
i ate it
royal crow
was it good
rancid juniper
rancid juniper
What happened to it
screen died so i gave it to thermalright
royal crow
Oh
royal crow
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9060-specs-leaked-2048-cores-and-18gbp...
8gb 😭
When will this madness come to an end
rancid juniper
When will this madness come to an end
when people stop buying them ig
royal crow
Gotta get mr beast to tell people not to buy or sm
rancid juniper
😂
wary fjord
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9060-specs-leaked-2048-cores-and-18gbp...
8gb 
rancid juniper
8gb <:peepoSadSip:641081095479361536>
the 8gb curse will not falter
time to preload
sinful blade
upper rain
i'm going to blow my brains out in front of this person
lone mango
Just swipe the notif
rough marlin
i'm going to blow my brains out in front of this person
I’ll pay you in exposure ahh msg
paper verge
once was selling my xbox
someone messaged my wanna trade for a monitor and pc
i was like this gotta be a great deal
rough marlin
i was like this gotta be a great deal
Dell optiplex incoming
royal crow
i'm going to blow my brains out in front of this person
Tell him he's off his mfing rocker
paper verge
monitor was like an old 2009 va, and the pc was a 7 gen intel cpu without graphics
bruh
upper rain
lmao
lone mango
Cheap fornite pc
paper verge
man someone was like id trade my scooter
rough marlin
man someone was like id trade my scooter
Was it at least electric
paper verge
proceeded to send the goofiest scooter i have ever seen
paper verge
Was it at least electric
the scooter was built like a fridge
lone mango
Fr
paper verge
wouldnt be surprised if it ran on diseal
also at the end i managed to get finnesed by some grandpa saying he used to teach kids like me
upper rain
tranquil pebble
making progress in Gears 5 and some of the characters are pretty great ngl
paper verge
cloud got an exam tmrw
tranquil pebble
it seems like the New 2DS XL I bought a while back has gone up in value since I bought it
lone mango
5 subjects
I just had 4 summer classes
paper verge
i have 4 more weeks of summer classes
lone mango
It rot my brain
paper verge
just finished 4 weeks
paper verge
damn i had 12 bruh
upper rain
12 summer classes?
rough marlin
But i have no choice
OfferUp
lone mango
paper verge
2 of the lamest dudes on planet earth
lone mango
Late night gaming
lone mango
OfferUp
Idk the time i used offerup i got just one message
Dont think its big in this area
upper rain
okay the arc is as good as sold, i'm going to buy a new one now
icy ore
2 of the lamest dudes on planet earth
I dunno they seem pretty chill to me
paper verge
I dunno they seem pretty chill to me
they arent
icy ore
Clearly
lone mango
dense locust
Ok so
My drive works now
The new windows install fixed the other drive
Ok then
Needed the new drive anyways
So ima just clone it
frigid stag
👑 990 pro peak
fair onyx
My power supply yesterday
dense locust
Paid like $285
frigid stag
🫠
fair onyx
Paid like $285
Not bad for samsung
frigid stag
More than many people’s CPU’s xD
fair onyx
Man, I have been dropping so much money I don't have on my PC
idle nexus
Maybe driver issue.
ya I thought integral XP would work but no luck yet. Install BSODs because apparently the SSD drivers don't work (even tho PNY CS900 claims to support XP on the website). Restoring a macrium image works but without USB. So ig I need some sort of combination of the two lol
frigid stag
You need a specific kind of ssd for xp?
mental yoke
hey guys quick question i have a logitech keyboard bought 3 months ish ago and my left alt is a diff color then my main keyboard color
whenever i switch the color of the keyboard it changes jus not to the same color
fair onyx
Do you guys know if Cooler Master does refunds instead of replacements?
I don't know how to see if they even got my RMA. There's not email confirmation or anything
idle nexus
You need a specific kind of ssd for xp?
not necessarily, but it needs a driver that works ig
idle nexus
hey guys quick question i have a logitech keyboard bought 3 months ish ago and m...
maybe look up if there's a function key combination that resets the whole keyboard. If it's still off, maybe the LED is damaged? Try setting the color to white cuz that makes R G & B max out at 255
mental yoke
maybe look up if there's a function key combination that resets the whole keyboa...
yea i jus dk if logitech signalrgb and windows is messin w it
idle nexus
oh ya if you're running multiple RGB control softwares it can get confusing
mental yoke
cuz on my keyboard its like a yellow look when its on FFFFFF
every key is the same except this 1
idle nexus
probably a dumb question but you unplugged then plugged it in again?
mental yoke
probably a dumb question but you unplugged then plugged it in again?
i did
maybe i should switch ports its in on pc
i mean theres no issues on google or anythin w my keyboard g pro x tkl
idle nexus
I dunno about Signal RGB but on OpenRGB sometimes you have to configure how many LEDs are on a header or a controller's channel. That's led me to have parts of rgb strips acting different than others
tranquil pebble
XP sometimes has trouble with SATA itself, nevermind SSD
idle nexus
XP sometimes has trouble with SATA itself, nevermind SSD
integral has an NVMe driver backported from win8.1 iirc
just wish it would heckin install
tranquil pebble
NVMe with XP is insane ngl
idle nexus
try Esc, O, Esc, O, Esc, B
idle nexus
i mean theres no issues on google or anythin w my keyboard g pro x tkl
supposedly this resets
idle nexus
i mean theres no issues on google or anythin w my keyboard g pro x tkl
ig this happens on other Logitech keyboards https://www.reddit.com/r/LogitechG/comments/hr69rc/g_pro_x_color_mismatch_of_one_key/
dense locust
ok the copy bluescreened on first boot but it works now
icy ore
wary fjord
ya I thought integral XP would work but no luck yet. Install BSODs because appar...
My mentor has that custom xp and win 2003 server lol that supports nvme and modern stuff
Even USB 3/3.1/3.2.. works
But i doubt he gonna share it xD
He did a custom kernel on it.. since win xp source was leaked back in a day.
And even make custom driver and sign it with his name
hoary zodiac
they literally fix theemselves its so peak
uh
💀
until the next windows update maybe
pliant cargo
Grilled cheese with or without tomato soup
pliant cargo
okay, thank you, lunch is now determined
dense locust
What about Tomato soup without grilled cheese
pliant cargo
wouldnt that just be a tomato bisque?
icy ore
Ooof mmmm
lone mango
There is life in the machine
tranquil pebble
Grilled cheese with or without tomato soup
grilled cheese with sliced ham in it
hoary zodiac
misty sparrow
peak
random osprey
gotta wait till the 7th 
rancid juniper
@dusk knot you should've waited LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
rancid juniper
gotta wait till the 7th <:Oh_No:641084812161056769>
fr
misty sparrow
I have closed beta code
I'm not gonna watch some streamer on Twitch for thirty minutes just for a code
dusk knot
<@350124341238824960> you should've waited LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
Eh. Can always sell my 5080 for one
random osprey
i always put streams at 1% volume for any rewards while i play or watch something else
dusk knot
I will be that nobody that buys it
lone mango
Fr
rancid juniper
It does now, bruh
play cattlefield 6 with us
tranquil pebble
omg a Postal 2 VR game has been announced
dense locust
never played
random osprey
uk government wont like that
hoary zodiac
omg a Postal 2 VR game has been announced
Based
rancid juniper
omg a Postal 2 VR game has been announced
the ESRB:
tranquil pebble
uk government wont like that
good thing I am not in the UK
opaque sedge
<@350124341238824960> you should've waited LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
Goddamn… ngl i hope nvidia releases bricked drivers when those come out now… cuz i def dont wanna cash in my microcenter warranty
dense locust
<@350124341238824960> you should've waited LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
no regrets
opaque sedge
Goddamn… ngl i hope nvidia releases bricked drivers when those come out now… cuz...
(I want that 5070ti super 3440x1440p brought a bigger performance drop from 2560x1440p than i anticipated)
dense locust
also arent the gpus pretty close in terms of performance
opaque sedge
But its painfully obvious ngreedai is releasing these for those “AI farms” (idk how else to describe regular people or small organizations amassing consumer hardware to train llms)
rancid juniper
or to win back gamers by giving higher vram offerings
dense locust
dont ai farms buy the rtx pro 6000
opaque sedge
or to win back gamers by giving higher vram offerings
Hahaha keep dreaming
rancid juniper
because ngl their current lineup is absolute trash
north crescent
<@350124341238824960> you should've waited LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
Tbh that's a decent distance away, still fine to buy now
rancid juniper
Hahaha keep dreaming
actually i will stop dreaming now that you mention it
hope it fails
dense locust
if the vram is what is leaked and the prices are the same it will almost entirely kill amd 9000 gpu sales
north crescent
How do I turn off the anime girl on my earbuds
Turning on anime guy turns off anime girl
opaque sedge
dont ai farms buy the rtx pro 6000
Not sure but most hardware releases are very subtly targeted towards AI, remember the strix halo AI max smth 395 u can allocate over 64 gigs of vram on that shit and guess what its just expensive enough for regular consumers to use it for gaming but good value enough for training llms
opaque sedge
Tbh that's a decent distance away, still fine to buy now
Ngl i should check how long i have on my microcenter warranty… just in case
misty sparrow
Mute it
Alright I'll do it, does it have to be in fullscreen the whole time or can I leave it minimized while I do something else
rancid juniper
if true this means people can mod their 5080 with 3gb chips one day <:meguuuclue...
dense locust
would be funny if they are the same gpus but with 3gb ram chips
north crescent
that is silly
In price sure, but I have yet to see issues with balance of perf to VRAM. As in, VRAM is fine for its current performance for gaming
rancid juniper
if this arch manages to beat all of nvidia's next gen gpus they'll turn green
and be overpriced as hell
opaque sedge
Ngl i should check how long i have on my microcenter warranty… just in case <:JP...
@rancid juniper …looks like i got the warranty on September last year… so i will allegedly still have the warranty till the 50 super cards release and enough months go by for the stock to be kind of available
north crescent
if this arch manages to beat all of nvidia's next gen gpus they'll turn green
It'll beat Nvidia in perf and price
opaque sedge
<@255061019322351618> …looks like i got the warranty on September last year… so ...
PLEASE GOD I BEG YOU MAKE SURE NVIDIA FUMBLES ALL THEIR DRIVERS FROM 2025-2026 FOR THE 40 SERIES
north crescent
Why win in one when you can "win" in two
hoary zodiac
Turns out
rancid juniper
<@255061019322351618> …looks like i got the warranty on September last year… so ...
hmm interesting
hoary zodiac
Anime girl on my earbuds doesn't go well with 19th century european music
Very jarring
Buds sound good tho
opaque sedge
hmm interesting
Its two years but basically if my gpu borks microcenter will give me a gift card for the money i spent on the gpu within that time including tax
So for my 4070super thats 600 and 41 bucks in tax
north crescent
PLEASE GOD I BEG YOU MAKE SURE NVIDIA FUMBLES ALL THEIR DRIVERS FROM 2025-2026 F...
Nvidia is still fumbling drivers. At this point I've just considered that drivers will be fumbled for eternity. Maybe they'll properly support 6000 series and abandon older GPUs idk
opaque sedge
So for my 4070super thats 600 and 41 bucks in tax
Wait im stupid
rancid juniper
Its two years but basically if my gpu borks microcenter will give me a gift card...
😳
opaque sedge
Indeed
north crescent
Its 36 bucks in tax
That's a lot of bucks
https://tenor.com/view/high-honor-deer-rdr2-high-honor-high-honor-arthur-morgan-gif-15559307536255721306
opaque sedge
When the 50 super releases tho
rancid juniper
yea
opaque sedge
But meh i honestly dont wanna take the chance on trying to acquire a gpu amid a stock shortage like pc gamers did during the launch of the 30 series
Just for 20 or so more frames in mhwilds
4070super has been serving me well
dense locust
my 5080 will serve me for years to come
i fully expect them to do the same thing they did with 50 series with the supers
dry out stock and make people desperate for gpus
opaque sedge
lone mango
Alright I'll do it, does it have to be in fullscreen the whole time or can I lea...
Yeah I just had other windows over it at 1%
lone mango
dry out stock and make people desperate for gpus
Nvidia cutting blackwell supply by 30%
Then release a card with a good amount of vram
Profit
sinful blade
My local sams club bout to get a lot of business
opaque sedge
Sams club is like costco right…
sinful blade
Ye
opaque sedge
I’m mad at costco i was abt to buy some proper steaks for the first time in a year
Looked at the ribeye price it was aight still stingy
But the meat…
lone mango
Should I just install base win 11 or the enterprise iso
opaque sedge
Was cut horribly
dense locust
chat i got an apple card
how much of a mistake have i made
opaque sedge
I was abt to cry
lone mango
On ventoy it says iot enterprise
sinful blade
Looked at the ribeye price it was aight still stingy
opaque sedge
Wtf
sinful blade
chat i got an apple card
how much of a mistake have i made
Terrible
dense locust
opaque sedge
Never had filet mignon but that shit cannot be worth it
dense locust
time for the stupid titanium card to destroy my wallet
sinful blade
Never had filet mignon but that shit cannot be worth it
Neither have I
I ain’t paying $200+ for some meat
opaque sedge
i would rather buy ground beef for all that money and eat that shit seasoned just with salt over that
Atleast i will get significantly more nutrition
And calories
dense locust
buy 1 piece of wagyu for $300 and eat like 1 thin slice
icy ore
Grab their wagyu
sinful blade
Grab their wagyu
Man
I don’t even like steak
icy ore
Beef is steak
sinful blade
@opaque sedge got muted for being a 4head
sinful blade
Beef is steak
Not like that
I’m talking about shredded beef
icy ore
Lmao
I don’t like bad steak
But a good steak is top tier
That chewy dookie ain’t worth a crap
opaque sedge
Not like that
I’m talking about shredded beef
Oh stuff like brisket chuck
Too bad social media hype and other factors like the grain shortage in US has made those expensive too
sinful blade
Oh stuff like brisket chuck
Oh wait no
opaque sedge
Same
sinful blade
I don’t eat any other type of beef
opaque sedge
sinful blade
opaque sedge
Steak cuts are really good kinda wish i could eat em more regularly like once a month…
Also that they wouldn’t hurt so much to buy
opaque sedge
What are you? Rich?
I wish
royal crow
Amazing
opaque sedge
I said i wish i could once a month
tranquil pebble
Steak cuts are really good kinda wish i could eat em more regularly like once a ...
there is a lot at steak
opaque sedge
@hoary zodiac yk what else i wish i could do once a month
hoary zodiac
opaque sedge
https://tenor.com/view/hornblower-salute-gif-26896609
Do it just ask me what else i wish i could do once a month
hoary zodiac
opaque sedge
https://tenor.com/view/hornblower-pellew-royal-navy-historical-god-save-the-king...
You are no king
Now respond to my question
Damn he ghosted chat
tranquil pebble
X
lone mango
https://tenor.com/view/hornblower-pellew-royal-navy-historical-god-save-the-king...
What do you think about putting iot enterprise on the pc i am selling
Hoping the “upgrade” to the next windows will be free
hoary zodiac
What do you think about putting iot enterprise on the pc i am selling
Based
simple cedar
Anyone know a good reliable steam key website that gets u the key instantly without having to go thru hoops of the key being banned?
lone mango
Oh its asking if I want enterprise or iot enterprise
hoary zodiac
iot
hoary zodiac
Enterprise is the bloated one
opaque sedge
Anyone know a good reliable steam key website that gets u the key instantly with...
Key websites that sell keys sourced directly from publishers so legit keys sites like fanatical greenmangaming humble bundle are the ones im aware of and i’m pretty sure there’s a subreddit that keeps a list of trustworthy sites
Also look up games in the isthereanydeal site they usually link legit stores
lone mango
This is crazy
hoary zodiac
Humble is probably one of the only legit sites
opaque sedge
Humble is probably one of the only legit sites
Fanatical and greenmangaming are legit too
hoary zodiac
Most key sites are
pliant berry
that word is apparently filtered
opaque sedge
Whats the word?
lone mango
Which word
opaque sedge
Lmao
hoary zodiac
Most key sites are legally dubius
pliant berry
the site you were trying to mention
lone mango
I see now
hoary zodiac
Probably for good reason
hoary zodiac
It's probably a sketchy site that uses stolen credit cards
lone mango
Lmao
opaque sedge
Oh also newegg sells steam keys too
pliant berry
it is multiple, plz don't get yourselves kicked
opaque sedge
Very few tho
lone mango
Ok so both are
opaque sedge
Very few tho
And rarely on a good deal
opaque sedge
Just buy from steam sales really
Or stores linked in the isthereanydeal site
hoary zodiac
Key sites are stupid
pliant berry
yeah i usually just buy whenever steam runs sales
opaque sedge
But steam gives u the option for refund
hoary zodiac
More of a reason to get steam
lone mango
hoary zodiac
The sites with stupidly cheap prices have questionable legality
lone mango
Gonna wait for jedi fallen order to hit $4 again
opaque sedge
Resident evil remake trilogy good price pretty sure its lower than the lowest on steam
tranquil pebble
The sites with stupidly cheap prices have questionable legality
those can also get you banned from platforms when the keys bought fraudulently inevitably get revoked
0/10 would not recommend
opaque sedge
Resident evil remake trilogy good price pretty sure its lower than the lowest on...
The older yakuza games still dont have decent sales sadly…
opaque sedge
those can also get you banned from platforms when the keys bought fraudulently i...
Yeah its the very suspiciously cheaply priced ones
And legit sites can be not worth the effort to buy from them for most people too cuz they’re atmost 5 or so bucks cheaper than steam
tranquil pebble
Fanatical is legit though ik that
opaque sedge
Yeah they can have decent bundles too at times but they’re a rarity
tranquil pebble
pretty sure I got a deal on an Atlus game from Famatical at one point
opaque sedge
I bought persona 3 reload from fanatical too
Metaphor and p5r i got from steam itself tho
lone mango
Im ready to uninstall after the beta
proud jackal
MHWILDS is still good what you mean
lone mango
You are tripping
opaque sedge
MHWILDS is still good what you mean
Shit barely gets a stable 60 frames on 2560x1440 rendering internally at near 720p with dlss balanced on a goddamn 4070super
What tf u mean by its “good”
hoary zodiac
Man installing windows sucks
Install arch
Do it
Technically it's possible to install arch faster than windows
lone mango
Wow iot only taking up 3 gigs of ram
opaque sedge
You are tripping
Crapcom is so gonna ditch this game…
hoary zodiac
Meanwhile "unused memory is wasted memory" copers
opaque sedge
Crapcom is so gonna ditch this game…
@proud jackal
hoary zodiac
Explain why the os still runs like shit
lone mango
Its gonna be more over time, but 3 as a baseline is pretty good for windows
proud jackal
Shit barely gets a stable 60 frames on 2560x1440 rendering internally at near 72...
Just buy a 5090 like I dod
hoary zodiac
3 is fine imo
proud jackal
hoary zodiac
3 is on par with the average linux usage tbh
opaque sedge
Just buy a 5090 like I dod
Wait gimme a moment just one minute
It will be worth it i promise
proud jackal
Tbf they added more Nvidia tech in latest update if your GPU can cover it for framegen and all that jazz
lone mango
I cant change the refresh rate. Ima see if installing adrenalin will fix that
lone mango
3 is on par with the average linux usage tbh
Still less but linux is in a diff league still
It is close though
hoary zodiac
Yeah but on average when it's not idle
lone mango
Linux is a little over two gigs
hoary zodiac
And has something running
lone mango
Yeah lol
hoary zodiac
It's reasonable
lone mango
An older system with a lot of stuff installed is 3
hoary zodiac
I should probably update my packages
lone mango
Idk I almost dont need windows anymore though
hoary zodiac
I've ditched windows for almost a year now
Windows is just too impractical for me
When it's not breaking itself it's slow as hell
Not in terms of performance
But in terms of being intuitive
opaque sedge
https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-14307036094483991064
U got lucky basically it was a Reddit post where the dude was saying wilds was a good game and he didn’t experience any performance issues his specs were a 9800x3d with a 5090…
lone mango
Wow my cpu is at 0-1% like how linux is
Damn its crazy how microsoft hides this from us
hoary zodiac
My cpu is at 22%
hoary zodiac
Damn its crazy how microsoft hides this from us
Ik it's bs
Really just shows that they're running all that crap for data collection
It's never about "improving performance or user experience"
velvet summit
life is roblox
idle nexus
I don't wanna jinx it but this is way further than I've gotten before & my mouse/keyboard are working
opaque sedge
Instead of having all this bs pushed on us
But i can push …. …. down …. …..
hoary zodiac
Kinda tempted to make a remote windows vm
idle nexus
using XP Integral Edition? lol
hoary zodiac
Has an obvious disadvantage... But it has less performance penalities than a vm
hoary zodiac
using XP Integral Edition? lol
Nah
idle nexus
lol heck
hoary zodiac
IoT enterprise
opaque sedge
@hoary zodiac
hoary zodiac
🗣️
Come cheer up, my lads! 'tis to glory we steer,
To add something more to this wonderful year;
To honour we call you, as free men not slaves,
For who are so free as the sons of the waves?
🗣️
opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
hoary zodiac
Yeah I'm too busy larping
proud jackal
U got lucky basically it was a Reddit post where the dude was saying wilds was a...
That's what I have
opaque sedge
Wtf
U have friends that agree to do this kinda stupid stuff @hoary zodiac…
Damn Lucky ngl
hoary zodiac
I'm larping as soixante-dix-neuf
opaque sedge
English please
hoary zodiac
Put it in google translate
hoary zodiac
And play the audio in the original language
hoary zodiac
Your loss
opaque sedge
Soixante gives it up lol
hoary zodiac
Vive la France
https://tenor.com/view/bleu-blanc-rouge-france-drapeau-français-french-flag-france-flag-gif-12160429
opaque sedge
Vive la France
Reminds me have u played expedition 33 yet
French devs made it
And being french ofc they made the story absolutely depressing
And painful
opaque sedge
Looks really good tho
opaque sedge
I dont get it…
Does it have to do with the napolean there’s nothing we can do memes
hoary zodiac
Wrong napoleon
idle nexus
wow after multiple attemps over the course of years, Windows XP is working
hoary zodiac
On modern hardware?
idle nexus
Z790 Apex with 13900KS
hoary zodiac
Damn
idle nexus
you can't run an nvidia card newer than 980ti
idle nexus
I have HD7970 on it rn lol
hoary zodiac
Based
idle nexus
umm welll
opaque sedge
Looks really good tho
@proud jackal u should try this game the devs gave it a thousand times more love than capcom gave to mhwilds and 10000 times more love than dragons dogma 2 got
idle nexus
so far I got Solitaire open
hoary zodiac
What about 3D pinball Space Cadet
opaque sedge
<@138867087526330369> u should try this game the devs gave it a thousand times m...
Also free ost pack on steam
Not all songs but some songs
idle nexus
lol can confirm it's working yes
hoary zodiac
Only game you need
idle nexus
idle nexus
jeez I barely remember Vista
opaque sedge
The windows vista ice cream game is underrated
Didn’t windows 7 have that weird cake game
idle nexus
I had ME for like 2-3 years & remember like 0% of it
frigid stag
Lol there’s even a Windows 7 anime edition
hoary zodiac
@lone mango what version kernel are you on?
idle nexus
it detects my external NVMe but it doesn't show in My Computer
hoary zodiac
Would be funny
idle nexus
external NVMe thing works
hoary zodiac
To top the charts with xp
wary fjord
Even my hardware wont work on xp.. gui too slow on vm.
idle nexus
yes 3dmark01SE party time
opaque sedge
What dx version does xp support?
Or did dx not exist back then
Oh shit looks like it supports upto dx9
lone mango
<@308023772412116995> what version kernel are you on?
.7
Something is holding back GE
opaque sedge
You need Windows 7 for dx11 i think
Hmm ngl looks like good windows versions seem to come with new directx versions
7 got 11
hoary zodiac
d/dx????
lone mango
Not sure what is
frigid stag
They tried making dx12 work on 7
opaque sedge
frigid stag
They stopped after like 3 games
lone mango
Last time he was behind, he was waiting on the microsoft surface linux team to finish up their stuff
Cachy is on .8 last I checked
hoary zodiac
d/dx [ e^2 ]
opaque sedge
d/dx [ e^2 ]
2e
lone mango
6.15.7
opaque sedge
Oh wait
hoary zodiac
Nvm
opaque sedge
Is it 0
opaque sedge
Cuz e’s a constant
hoary zodiac
d/dx [ e^2x ]
opaque sedge
d/dx [ e^2x ]
Prolly 2e^(2x)
Cuz e^(2x) is intact
And u gotta multiply it with the derivative of 2x
Which is 2
worthy meteor
Clearly it's (e^2) * x, therefore it's just e^2 :p
opaque sedge
hoary zodiac
∂/∂x [ 4 - x^2 - y^2 ]
craggy shoal
holy shit what did I join
idle nexus
Even my hardware wont work on xp.. gui too slow on vm.
install on an SSD
should work with NVMe supposedly
opaque sedge
I forgot this shit man
proud jackal
We should word ban the s word again
hoary zodiac
We should word ban the s word again <:derpyBlob:800415354891403275>
NEIN
Wait is y^2 a constant
My brain is fried
hoary zodiac
huh???
worthy meteor
It just goes away with partial derivative in terms of x
hoary zodiac
So it'd just be -2x
worthy meteor
Depends on the context but dy/dx just wouldn't exist in most cases with independent variables
hoary zodiac
Yeah -2x
opaque sedge
I think its supposed to be 2y.d/dy
Wait i’m stupid
hoary zodiac
I treated it as 4 - x^2y^2 for xome reason
craggy shoal
opaque sedge
It would be 2y*(d/dx)
opaque sedge
derivate of y written down is dy/dx no?
opaque sedge
It's a multivariable function
Huh then i prolly haven’t gotten there yet
hoary zodiac
It's the derivative of f(x,y)
opaque sedge
https://tenor.com/p6XPjJ1qHPw.gif
Dont you work in coding?!? Aren’t u supposed to be good at this?!?
worthy meteor
Coding doesn't need calculus
craggy shoal
IT isn't programming lmao
hoary zodiac
Coders don't need to take engineering maths
opaque sedge
IT isn't programming lmao
Whats IT then
craggy shoal
this mf asked what IT is
hoary zodiac
It's only the engineers in IT that need the maths
opaque sedge
Genuinely confused
worthy meteor
Coders don't need to take engineering maths
Even if they did they'll just import a package that does it for them