general-chat

[lone mango]

Right but she doesnt have linux tism like how we do

[honest birch]

did u spray paint your case...? why does it look so bad

[lone mango]

I think nobara would be the best choice

Easy to use and has a lot of helpful preinstalled things

[sinful blade]

The back is ass, yeah, I didn’t do enough to it
But no, I painted it
I’m going back into it to give it a once over to make it look much better later

[north crescent]

Need an extra couple KM there tbh. Way too short rn

[deep parcel]

ah interesting... I actually didnt know about this distro but after looking yeah it would be a good choice. Based off Fedora.

[fresh timber]

Mr roomba

I think my gf would be happy with cachy

4gb ram laptop and idk if you can upgrade it

[honest birch]

use w10 ltsc iot, you can get it down to 1gb idle and even less

[fresh timber]

He’ll if I can find my 1050 laptop I’ll replace the fan and give her that lmfao

[honest birch]

i used it on this old 4gb ddr2 laptop

[fresh timber]

1050 would be able to run everything we need

[fresh timber]

Lstc saved me

[elfin mural]

1050 would be a huge jump for her

[fresh timber]

Excatly

The cpu is something 10th or 11tg gen I forgot

If I find it I’ll let her have it, while I wait to give I’ll run mc server or something

I got some tuning to do

Lowered more settings, it feels better

Mqybe it runs better with me not using parsec

[sinful blade]

Damn:/

[lone mango]

Yeah and it has preinstalled apps that help with things like automounting a partition so you dont have to edit fstab and stuff

Its a distro for ease of use

ge did good work with this one

[fresh timber]

What world size should we play that

Chat

Ayeee I got it to run good

Disabled some stuff and we good

@lone mango holy aura

@elfin mural

i got it to run 40fps

its terraria, its playable at 30

[north crescent]

turn on frame skip

[elfin mural]

nice

[fresh timber]

nobody talking

[fresh timber]

i did

ima host the world on my laptop so she might get even more fps

[pliant berry]

Was going to say to check frame skip setting

[fresh timber]

ru a terraria expert

[fair onyx]

I can't find the guy that did my GPU mod. I really wanna buy another card from him

[atomic current]

Maybe he's wearing a suspiciously GPU packed trench coat

[pliant berry]

I am the absolute best

not really but Ive beat the game a dozen or so times

[fresh timber]

Soo.. what Excatly do I do

@pliant berry big or small to start

[opaque sedge]

Isnt terraria like this encyclopedia game where u read a shitton of wikis

[fresh timber]

Idk

[fair onyx]

I need to find a PCIe gen 5 x16 to 2x gen 5 x8 splitter. Do you guys know of any? Maybe you? @pliant berry

Waaiiitttt

Does my mobo have to support bifurcation for a riser to work?

[fresh timber]

we playing

[fair onyx]

Nice :3

[misty sparrow]

crazy, i just got back into terraria too

the game is crazy complex

[fresh timber]

after tuning her game it runs good

its a 2d game so it doesnt matter

[misty sparrow]

is there a way to raise the FPS cap above 60

i like that it stays at 60 but the game can run on a potato so it doesn't seem necessary

[opaque sedge]

Mods prolly

Unless it uses eac like stupid fromsoft

[misty sparrow]

why would terraria use EAC

[opaque sedge]

Fromsoft that would duckinh ban u for modding in ultrawide support for elden ring

[hoary zodiac]

Didn't you hear the press statement from lead dev Willya?

[opaque sedge]

@hoary zodiac i got a new monitor

[opaque sedge]

Damn i was just hating on fromsoft didn’t think it would apply to terraria

[hoary zodiac]

Willya fit deez nuts in your mouth

[opaque sedge]

…

[hoary zodiac]

This is my first one in three weeks

[opaque sedge]

Can u fit ur limited field of view on the whole of this ultrawide oled

Ignore the chip in the wall

[hoary zodiac]

run flight sim on it

[opaque sedge]

cant

Alr pushing my 4070super playing on ultrawide res

Would need an 80 class gpu prolly to run flightsim on this monitor

[hoary zodiac]

flight sim is probably more cpu heavy

you can at least run fs20 on a 4070s

@elfin mural

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-ban-this-guy-gif-21304842

[elfin mural]

k

[hoary zodiac]

thx

[misty sparrow]

that is 100% a catfish profile picture

[hoary zodiac]

In what world did they think it would work on discord

[opaque sedge]

Guy? Thats prolly just lines of codes and commands

[hoary zodiac]

Almost nobody has their real face on discord

or name

[opaque sedge]

…

Yh

[hoary zodiac]

"AI is going to take over the world"

AI:

[misty sparrow]

"The word 'strawberries' contains four 'r's."

[atomic current]

That's not a catfish

[hoary zodiac]

you know what doesn't contain four rs

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/catfish-fishing-walking-gold-cat-gold-fish-gif-17141550

[fair onyx]

Hey, any reasonable thinking model can aswer this effortlessly now haha

Just like how hands aren't an issue in image gen anymore

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how many onlyfans accounts are entirely AI generated

[fair onyx]

Oh, lots of them

I say go for it TBH. If people like the content, then it's a win win

[hoary zodiac]

I just saw a meme that showed that a certain site had a no-ai filter

[misty sparrow]

I wonder how it's supposed to be the future when it's pretty bad at basic everyday tasks, at least for the big ones

[fair onyx]

Dang, if only those actually worked

[fair onyx]

Yeah, it takes a lot of knowledge and expertise to make them very very good at specific things. Like MCP, which is insanely cool

[misty sparrow]

I think Apple Intelligence is one of the worst offenders

[opaque sedge]

Holy shit

[misty sparrow]

All they did was rebrand Siri, there's no Intelligence here

just Artificial

[royal crow]

Insane

[hoary zodiac]

See

[fair onyx]

WOAH

We can say the S word now?

[opaque sedge]

Just like their design team

[hoary zodiac]

It's going to be intelligent when the average person in 2050 is unable to think critically

[misty sparrow]

Liquid Glass but a certain portion is cut out in the video thumbnail

[hoary zodiac]

👍

[opaque sedge]

Nah just some special folks can talk shit

Like bullshit for example

[fair onyx]

Can I talk shit?

I can :3

Heheheheh

[fair onyx]

What's the requirement?

[royal crow]

Pov ur me after eating 3 bags of dried apricots

[fair onyx]

I'm considering a system upgrade... Hmmmmmm

To a 7900x

I'm not sure how much it would run me tho

[royal crow]

but i didnt get a segue to our sponsor😭

[fair onyx]

Lol

[lone mango]

Gonna update my router but it asks for the specific hardware version

Sticker on it says 1.26 but when I log in the router gateway it says 1.2

I guess I will trust the router

Ight I guess it doesnt matter

1.2 or 1.26 shouldnt matter then

[wild peak]

I’m waiting for fans for my radiator, but for now this is working

[lone mango]

What you got rn

[fresh timber]

12600k

[fair onyx]

12600k

[fresh timber]

copy cat

[fair onyx]

It's more than fast enough, but the PCIe is so stingy

[fresh timber]

idk if am5 is the move if u want pcie

[fair onyx]

I'm trying to not starve my second (or possibly a future third) GPU

[fresh timber]

third

[fair onyx]

Has a lot more than what I have lol

[fresh timber]

higher end lga1700

honestly u might be a prime person for arrow lake

and above

[fair onyx]

Blegh, absolutely not

I will not support Intel like that lmao

Arrow lake is overpriced as hell too

[lone mango]

Nah arrow lake got a lot cheaper recently

[fresh timber]

and it has what u need... fast ram and pcie

[fair onyx]

The 265k is still $300, and has less PCIe than the 7900x

[fresh timber]

ehhhhhhhh

i wouldnt look at pcie numbers, platform has big diffrence on how they use them

[lone mango]

need to account for the board too

[fresh timber]

arrow lake motherboards will most likley have what you are looking for

[fair onyx]

God, the thought of buying arrow lake is too off-putting for me to even consider

[fresh timber]

yeah... they unironicly are good for this

[fair onyx]

I am not so sure about that, but maybe

24 PCIe is hardly even an upgrade

[fresh timber]

look at platform

irrc arrow lake gives more to platform that am5

am i wrong @lone mango

[atomic current]

I will eat them

[misty sparrow]

wafers

[lone mango]

No, if you get arrow lake and z890 it looks like you will have a total of 48 lanes

[lone mango]

what board and graphics cards you got

[lone mango]

x870e has 36 total lanes

[fair onyx]

I have an aorus B760 or whatever. And I have a 3090 and modded 3060ti

[fresh timber]

ohh

even a Z chipset would do you justic

[fair onyx]

But the price lmao

[fresh timber]

eh

[fair onyx]

I wish Mobos weren't extortionate for useful features

[fresh timber]

x790s are cheap

mines was $180

[fair onyx]

Define "cheap"

Hmmm, not too bad

But does it have the features I need? That's usually the problem area

[lone mango]

Are they running at x8 or no

Probably not

[fair onyx]

3090 is at gen 5 x16, and 3060ti is at gen 3 x1

[lone mango]

A third one may run in x8

[fair onyx]

That's more than fine

I just need like x4

[fresh timber]

nvme to pcie adapters

[lone mango]

What the hell how is it at 1

[fair onyx]

It's on a gen 3 X1 lane lmao

*slot

[lone mango]

Oh its an x16 but wired to 1

[fresh timber]

hear me out, mining from facebook marketplace, instead of using usb 1x adapeters get M.2 to pcie adapters

[fair onyx]

Yes, sorry

[fresh timber]

put 12600k system in it and buy new one for ur self

[lone mango]

Yeah board replacement

Well this is still cheaper than going am5

7900x going for like what

270

Then x870e board

Idk the price on that

And also ddr5 ram

[fair onyx]

I have the DDR5 RAM sorted

[lone mango]

My upgrade to a 9600x, b650i lightning and ram costed like 500

[fresh timber]

this isnt a bad idea

[fair onyx]

Yeah, I was considering

[lone mango]

Oh ok

[fair onyx]

I would need a new Mobo, and a new CPU and that's it (I think)

[fresh timber]

microcenter bundles

if u live their

[fair onyx]

I am pretty far from a microcenter, but it's not out of the question

[fresh timber]

iv seen ultra 7 or 5 go for $200

[fair onyx]

Hmm

My 12600k was a fantastic deal, and I'll never beat it, but maybe. Idk

[lone mango]

Are you using ddr5 with the 12600k or is it on standby

[fair onyx]

Using it with the 12600k

[lone mango]

Honestly

Since the 12600k is still good then just get a z790

[fresh timber]

agree

[lone mango]

The cheapest thing really

[fresh timber]

would give more pcie and cheap

[fair onyx]

How would that benefit me at all?

[lone mango]

And good enough still

[fresh timber]

u want pcie dont u

[lone mango]

More pcie lanes

[fair onyx]

My CPU is already maxed out?

[fresh timber]

also z790 supporters faster wam

[fair onyx]

It's only 20 lanes

[fresh timber]

chipset

[lone mango]

The chipset has lanes to it

[fresh timber]

z790 chipset has more lanes

[fair onyx]

Ohhhh, really?

[lone mango]

[fair onyx]

Wow, I didn't know that actually... Huh

[fresh timber]

for example i have 4 nvmes, two 4x and a 1x slot my z790 can take advantage of fully

[fair onyx]

I used to be so damn knowledgeable about PC's 😅

[fresh timber]

not to mention i have a gen 5 16x slot

:))

get adapters to turn nvme into PCIE and woooo ur set

[fair onyx]

I have 1 gen5 x16, 3x NVME's, and a gen 3 x1

[fresh timber]

yeah a z790 could give u a few more 🙂

[fair onyx]

Hmmmm.... Maaayyybeee

IDK

I'll think about it

[lone mango]

Seems that z790 has 4 more lanes than 890

28 vs 24

[fair onyx]

So, does this mean that the lanes have to be shared across NVMease? How will that impact performance?

[fresh timber]

idk

uhhhhhhhhhhh prob not enough to notice

unless your some niche user

[fair onyx]

I am very much a niche user 😅

Now that I think about it, I think it would cause massive issues. I would have to be strategic about it

[fresh timber]

irrc your cpu and chipset talk at like gen 5 speeds so unless your using a bunch of gen5 stuff you should be fine i think

[fair onyx]

hmm, fair

[fresh timber]

4

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/chipsets/desktop-chipsets/z790-chipset-brief.html

[fair onyx]

I'll give a look at some mobos I guess

[fresh timber]

NVM ITS GEN 4

[fair onyx]

ah

then yeah, that could very easily cause issues I think

Oh, they have the Z790 version of my mobo

[lone mango]

Sorry I was wrong

[fresh timber]

according to math its uh

[lone mango]

x870 has 36

[fresh timber]

32GBps of chipset to CPU

[lone mango]

x870e has 44

[fresh timber]

so unless your using more than 32GBps your fine

[lone mango]

But thats adding the cpu

[fair onyx]

you said the same number

[fresh timber]

lol

sytan did us ee what i said, it bothers me when people dont

[lone mango]

E didnt register

[fair onyx]

the 32Gbps?

[fresh timber]

GB

but yes

[fair onyx]

So I need a mobo for DDR5 on intel, with at least 3x NVMe m.2 drives, and bifurcation built in

is that total, or bi directional?

[fresh timber]

i can easily get 4x nvme ngl

[fair onyx]

4x NVMe would be ideal

3x NVMe is minimum (thats what I have now)

[fresh timber]

32gbps bidirectioanl

16GBps to cpu. 16GBps to chipset

[fair onyx]

man, that sounds really limited and like it would get bogged down as hell with what I am doing

What about Arrow lake?

Oh, I also need it to support 64GB RAM sticks too, my bad

[fresh timber]

thats

[fair onyx]

I forgot

[fresh timber]

looks to be the same

just more lanes

[fair onyx]

hmmm... Man, this is all getting so confusing. There's no way for me to know where bottlenecks might be without trying it

[fresh timber]

tldr, unless you spend threadripper money, you will be limited

[fair onyx]

to me it sounds like that chipset will get massively bogged down

[fair onyx]

hmm, fair

[fresh timber]

you could also go for an older xeon with hellaaaaaaaaaaaaa pcie

wont break the bank AS hard

[fair onyx]

I was considering that, yeah, but then it becomes useless for other stuff. Its a hard issue honestly

[fresh timber]

i know you can get servers and such for pretty cheap with all the pcie u want

with realtivly modern cpus

honestly i can recommend a server for you with more inteligant people if youd like

[fair onyx]

A server isn't a good option for me, though I do appreciate the suggestion

[fresh timber]

more people into this server stuff that can direct you to a platform with the PCIE and cpu horse power you need

[fresh timber]

okay!

[fair onyx]

the stuff I am doing needs strong multi and single core. if its unbalanced in either way, efficiency will plummet, which is unfortunate

I need to stew on these options for a while longer, and figure out what it is I really need

the end goal is to get my 3060ti off of my pitiful gen 3 x1 connection, cause that would likely increase its performance considerably in my workloads

I also don't think my current mobo supports 64GB sticks of DDR5, so I could use an upgrade to a mobo that can do that as well. And ideally, a 4th m.2

that way I can dual boot linux and windows

[fresh timber]

so you need good single and multi, power efficency, and hella pcie

this is all pointing away from arrow lake and am5 😭

[fair onyx]

power efficiency isn't a huge deal. the efficiency comes from the balancing of things

[fresh timber]

have you looked at like xeon golds or something

idk enough sorry

i just know, server cpus, can get system for like $600, good system

[fair onyx]

for example, using my 3060ti lower efficiency massively cause of the PCIe bottleneck, but swapping the layers off my 3060ti to CPU then also bottlenecks just as hard cause the CPU then has to crunch through 16GB more of FP16 calculations

If the 3060ti wasn't gimped, it would help both problems. Thats the balancing act right now

its not the end of the world and I don't NEED to do all of this, but I would like to work towards it

honestly, the EASIEST sollution would be just to find a mobo that supports bifurcation with my current CPU. That would solve my issues, but it wouldn't be a very efficient upgrade cost wise

[fair onyx]

the problem is the really poor single core. That will tank performance in a different way

I will consider all options I can, honestly

[lone mango]

I think if you get z790 you will get a perf increase just from this card getting more bandwidth

Just make sure to look at the x16 slots

Where they are located and their wiring and whatnot

Why not just have linux on one of your current drives

[hoary zodiac]

CPU's not even maxed out

[wary fjord]

94c

[fair onyx]

I just found out my damn mobo is gen 4 lmao

not gen 5 like I thought

I am looking at Z790 mobos. Not finding any that stand out too much. I found the much nicer version of mine, but still no bifurcation

[lone mango]

Thats ok

3090 not even close to fully using gen 3

[wary fjord]

Maybe it gives 5-10 fps u know

Or none

[fair onyx]

I'm just mad that I am not even getting the most of my PCIe Gen5, and I can't even bifurcate it

I am struggling to find Z790's I like with bifurcation

[lone mango]

Well the 3090 is gen 4 so it dont matter anyway

But pcie lanes dont split on bandwidth

If the card takes 16 gen 4 lanes and it is in a gen 5 slot, it takes up 16 gen 5 slots

I have a gen 3 ssd in a gen 5 slot and it still takes up 4 lanes

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine

Imagine getting one of these

https://c-payne.com/products/pcie-gen5-mcio-switch-52-lane-mircochip-switchtec-pm50052

[lone mango]

I knew intel had better io but didnt know how much better it was

Amd boards over here still using gen 3

[hoary zodiac]

AMDeez

[lone mango]

Deez lanes

[lone mango]

Open box 9060 xt for 332

I paid 351 out the door

[hoary zodiac]

is it a 16GB at least

[lone mango]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

my rule is

[lone mango]

Pretty good

[hoary zodiac]

$299 or bust

I think the msrp is stupid anyways

[lone mango]

It was under msrp so i copped it

[hoary zodiac]

the sub $300 market needs to come back

and I don't mean absolute crap for $250 like the 7600 or 4060

a real gpu

[lone mango]

Its original price was 380

[hoary zodiac]

with real pcie lanes

and real memory bus

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say the 16GB should be priced like the 8GB

the 8GB shouldn't even exist at its msrp

maybe for $250 sure

[lone mango]

Probably 9060 price

[hoary zodiac]

9060XT 16GB for $299 is reasonable

8GB has no right to be priced that high

I'd rather just grab a refurb 6700xt at that point

[lone mango]

yup

[hoary zodiac]

like sure it's weaker in a lot of cases

but I'm not paying $300+ to run out of vram

at least I'm paying less and getting decent price/perf out of it

[lone mango]

Oh I meant the 9060 when that comes out

[hoary zodiac]

16GB is reasonable albeit a is ovepriced

[lone mango]

That will probably be 250

[hoary zodiac]

yeah but like

I feel like at that point the refurb 6700xt will just be better

I'm caling it

[lone mango]

But that is basically 6700 xt but with it losing some weight (vram)

[hoary zodiac]

refurb 6700xt is going to beat the 9060xt in price/perf

[lone mango]

pcie 3 holding up well

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

doesn't it take a 5090 to saturate gen 3

[lone mango]

That is a 5090

Crazy how it is just now saturating it

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

I still remember when AMD trolled everyone by making the 6500XT 4x8

[lone mango]

I remember linus losing it over that

[hoary zodiac]

for god's sake the 5500xt probably outperforms it

[lone mango]

Not good of amd to do that

[hoary zodiac]

also doesn't help that the card itself is dogcrap

generational improvement my ass

[lone mango]

Laptop chip

[hoary zodiac]

RX580 users be laughing

The only reason to not get polaris over the 6500XT is well

drivers

[lone mango]

580 with 8 gigs

[hoary zodiac]

imagine someone that's got a 480

[lone mango]

480 with 8 gigs

[hoary zodiac]

then vbios flashed it to 580

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

they could've had that card for an entire decade

probably not an entire decade

at least half a decade tho

480 still usable in 2021 tbh

[lone mango]

actually 389

not 380

[hoary zodiac]

wait

[lone mango]

So that open box discount is insane

[hoary zodiac]

you mean the price

[lone mango]

yeah if it was new it would be 390

but open box was 332

[hoary zodiac]

isn't the msrp $350 or something

[lone mango]

Yes but they increase prices when stock goes down I guess

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine markup on top of the marked up msrp

💀

like $350 is reasonable

but then they're never $350

I wonder if the 8GB exists just so they can sell the 16GB for higher

[lone mango]

They used to be cheaper, I watched the price slowly limb over time

But you gotta understand that they are selling many times more 16 gig cards than 8 gig cards

Mindfactory sold 30x more than 8 gig cards

Oh I get it

[hoary zodiac]

but did they produce as many 8 gig cards

because I have a conspiracy theory

that the 8GB isn't a real product

[lone mango]

So they make a lot of both, then nobody buys them so they lower the price and then because all of those people go to the 16 gig card, they raise the price because the stock is lower, more constrained

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder what would've happened if they just made 16GB cards

It's probably still going to be selling hotcakes because

nvidia is trolling

[lone mango]

It is, but I think that they are using it to increase the price of the 16 gig card by making more people go over to it, which then increases the price because they would rather increase the price than to let it go out of stock at a lower price

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's my conspiracy theory

the 8GB doesn't feel like a real product

[lone mango]

There is this too

https://x.com/TechEpiphanyYT/status/1945461841490047027

TechEpiphany (@TechEpiphanyYT)

👀 GPU Retail Sales Week 28 '25 (mf)

ℹ️ Units
AMD: 950 units sold, 65.07%, ASP: 574
Nvidia: 510, 34.93%, ASP: 770
Intel: 0, 0%, ASP: NAN

ℹ️ Revenue
AMD: 545057, 58.13%
Nvidia: 392656, 41.87%
Intel: 0, 0%

ℹ️ Bestseller
16GB XFX Radeon RX 9060 XT Swift OC Gaming: 100

X · Jul 16, 2025, 12:33 PM

[hoary zodiac]

If it was bad silicon

then wouldn't it be used to make 9060s instead

[lone mango]

Over 5x 16 gig than 8

So it makes sense that the price has gone up, because they dont want it to go out of stock at a lower price, so they raise it

so the 9070 xt still being overpriced adds up

[hoary zodiac]

at least the 1060 3GB and 6GB are physically different

cut down silicon

The only reason I can imagine that AMD would use perfectly good gpus to make a crappy cut down version is if they're trolling

[lone mango]

They tried nvidia's trick but it didnt work as well

Even with the 9060 xt over msrp it is still cheaper than nvidia

[hoary zodiac]

I think consumers are way too desperate in general

they've been raising prices and getting away with it

I think the msrp is reasonable... for the maximum amount the 9060XT 16GB should go for

but on the actual market

it's getting close to what the MSRP of the 7700XT was

which is just stupid

[lone mango]

lmfao if i got it at 389 it would be 412 out the door

yeah i did pretty good imo

[hoary zodiac]

yeahhhh

at that point

a 7700xt bought last year...

[lone mango]

the only way i would get a 9060 xt is if it was open box

[hoary zodiac]

that'd unironically destroy this 9060xt in value

[lone mango]

if it wasnt, then i wait for one

[hoary zodiac]

assuming 400+

or hell 7800xt

2025 is a silly year

[lone mango]

only one of amd mobile gpus have more than 8 gigs

[hoary zodiac]

for mobile I'd still recommend nvidias

[lone mango]

hold on i gotta find the lineup

[hoary zodiac]

radeons don't got anything

I'd rather buy a laptop with these stupid desktop prices tbh

I wonder can you even build something like this for $900

actualyl you probably can with a used 3060ti

for $700-900

[lone mango]

i was wrong

its 2

[hoary zodiac]

oh wait chinese sustop

[hoary zodiac]

what does the 5070m match

[lone mango]

I think it might be like a 5060 or something

their mobile chips are still cut down

[hoary zodiac]

hold up

$249????

[lone mango]

Lmao thats crazy

[hoary zodiac]

that's...

[lone mango]

The msrp was 300

[hoary zodiac]

somewhat acceptable tbh

like it's crap

but it's $249

aaand desktop undercuts it by a lot

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pqTXzP

Bad value but absolutely cheapest thing for AM5

[lone mango]

Do you know what is going on here

Is this a wayland moment

[hoary zodiac]

maybe

is that yt-dl-gui

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbqxqH

ok

the ABSOLUTE cheapest I'd go

[lone mango]

This could be wayland not letting the app cursor I have display in here

[lone mango]

Its called video downloader

But basically the same thng

[hoary zodiac]

I use something else

wait

I might use that exact same app

nvm lol

I wonder what the price would be if I don't cheap out

[lone mango]

Oh I have this on windows

Cool to see on flathub too

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KN3KDj

$900

eh

cheaping out does have its benefits tbh

[lone mango]

I think that is pretty good

[hoary zodiac]

not very ugradable tho

which is why I'd take the plunge and go for the $900 instead of saving $68

$68 more and it's X3D ready

and new gpu ready

upgrading the psu alone usually costs more than $68

or I'd go the intel route

[lone mango]

And thats 900 2025 dollars

[hoary zodiac]

and save more money

while I cheap out

Swapped the cooler on my intel list

so it can be somewhat upgradable

$746.71

[lone mango]

725 if this was 2020

[hoary zodiac]

$153 difference

so yeah

if you're gonna cheap out

cheap out all the way

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-gif-27066727

[hoary zodiac]

don't cheap out half way because then you lose perf/$

Then again

this is my definition of cheaping out

I at least don't put bomb psus and bare vrm boards in my lists

I have standards

wait

oops

I forgot to swap out the ssd as well

swapped the c910 back in

UD90 was a stupid cheap out

$2 difference

Or if you want to cheap out all the way

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QFzzLc\

This and a cheap optiplex

[elfin mural]

it's literally just clevo

just so ya know lul

[hoary zodiac]

wait wtf

that's clevo?

[elfin mural]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

based?

[elfin mural]

hasee is just

a company that rebrands clevos

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/317086250198?

ok so

something like this

plus $366 for psu, ssd and ram

$506

oooo

https://www.ebay.com/itm/277165724040?

not sure if this can fit a full atx psu tho

[atomic current]

smell expireon

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/326689187822?

[elfin mural]

damn, 1.3k for 5070

[hoary zodiac]

$199

[elfin mural]

that ain't so bad

[hoary zodiac]

wait nvm that's an sff

mfw trying to build the cheapest gaming pc

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-miku-jeremy-jeremy-elbertson-hatsune-miku-gif-13673919181631678531

[hoary zodiac]

It's shocking how coffee lake is somehow the best value option

like

can we get more than 6c/6t

I guess something like this with a ram upgrade would be decent for $550

6c/12t and a 9060xt

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CszzLc

$610

sadge

oh wait nvm it's one of those stupid psu ones

[atomic current]

ouch

big shipping...

[hoary zodiac]

transpacific shipping

you should see something different

isn't v6 kaby lake

quad core tho so

nah

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KNfJQd

coffee lake optiplex is still $570

On one hand it's half the price of the average 9060XT build

on the other hand

it's got a coffee lake

...with no HT

honestly still better than a prebuilt

You know what

it's actually not that bad

It might be a bit behind a 3600 or around the same performance

there's going to be a cpu bottleneck but like

$570

[fresh timber]

Cheapest gaming pc 8600g

why I say. It can run Roblox

oo n100

plays terraria

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-ぼっちざろっく-hitori-gotou-gif-27014590

[velvet summit]

Painge

Scheduled 5 days in a row next 2 weeks

[frosty sinew]

K hear me out

Buy a for parts gpu and fix it

[hoary zodiac]

Business or pleasure

[tranquil pebble]

they say nothing is impossible but directx11 feature set 12 is in fact impossible

[royal crow]

Chat dead

Someone have an easy to solve tech issue

[frosty sinew]

Windows broken

[royal crow]

Which version

[frosty sinew]

The one on my house

[royal crow]

1. Get sand
2. Melt sand
3. Add quicklime
4. Let cool

5. Install windows

[frosty sinew]

Ok

Usb thumbdrive or?

[royal crow]

Sure

[frosty sinew]

Ok bet

[wary fjord]

xD

[cedar compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852302171286405201/1329854457432899646/Businessing.gif

[frosty sinew]

I have an idea

Do i spend like 500$ on a for parts gpu

And fix it

[royal crow]

Scammer?

[royal crow]

If you have good skills with that kind of thing

[frosty sinew]

No lol

[frosty sinew]

I mean id like to tgink so as long as its not like a severe issue

[royal crow]

Some bot got banned for a steam scam ig

[frosty sinew]

Ohhh

[cedar compass]

there's lots of scammers selling gpus for parts but they actually removed core and vrams from board

[frosty sinew]

Yeag ik

[frosty sinew]

Why are hdmi pins so small

Wish me luck soldering to that lol

[wary fjord]

imagine if they are big

then few hdmi can fit on a card

they look standard tho

what you making?

it looks like pcb of a tv

[frosty sinew]

Yep

[frosty sinew]

Wel

Im lazy right

So my gaming monitor doesnt turn off when my pc shuts the screen off

But the TV does

And its annoying to click the button every time

So im wiring a circuit to just turn it back on whenever its off

[wary fjord]

oooo

hope it works

[frosty sinew]

But the hdmi connector idea didn't work, the hit plug pin stays high untill its unplugged

So basically what im doing know

Is wiring the led to the button

Cuz the led is on when the TV is off

So it'll work

And then I'll have an override switch in case

[frosty sinew]

Well im stuck inside for the next 3 days cuz of my stupid teeth so

[wary fjord]

the blood will rush when u are looking down and thinking hard

[frosty sinew]

Lollll

Prob

[wary fjord]

i dont know much about it xD i know redstone hehehe

maybe some relay u can attach that detect if its off

so it turn off also

[frosty sinew]

Neither do I but if you fafo enough

[wary fjord]

[frosty sinew]

Nah it'll be solid state

Use some mosfets

[wary fjord]

the only time i use my multi meter is when i check if my ups battery is dead or not

[frosty sinew]

LOL

[spark halo]

Constantly getting system settings change please reboot computer, after installing the driver for a new gpu

I reboot it keeps coming back

what do i do

nevermind went to device manger seemed to fix it

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/ZdC5mFHPldg?si=VYar4swwAAlqPqna

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/YShVEXb7-ic?si=zdxEeMxHCtkWfpgE

[pliant berry]

Woah a new tron movie?

[royal crow]

Dude this trailer been out since like march

[frosty sinew]

@wary fjord

Works great

[royal crow]

Guys press win+l for free performance trust

+400 fps

[blissful urchin]

Sapphire pulse 9070xt or gigabyte 9070xt?

[upper rain]

gigabyte

[sinful blade]

Sapphire pulse @blissful urchin

[blissful urchin]

bet thx

[arctic lily]

what happened to bros gpu

[alpine phoenix]

Is it normal? I ordered something from Newegg and it's been 7 days it says delayed status.

[honest birch]

What liquid metal does to a ihs

Just stained

[sinful blade]

It’s a 1660 S
I can’t play many new games:/

[arctic lily]

get b580

plays everything in 1440p ultra

also has substantial oc boosts

[dusk knot]

YES!

It's been 15 years now

[olive plaza]

It never gets old. the feeling when someone brings you their laptop and it runs so slow it takes 10-15 seconds just to pop up the start menu after you click it, and then you clone the whole thing from the hard drive to an SSD

and then it's normal

[frosty sinew]

what do you use to clone?

i use macrium

can i say

usb c on my pc

is so handy

[olive plaza]

always macrium

[frosty sinew]

nice

[olive plaza]

this laptop happened to have an open NVMe slot internally so the clone didn't even go over USB

[frosty sinew]

ok what nvidia gpus arent subject to those high power spikes

i have an 850w psu

[olive plaza]

it still took 2 hours because the hard drive was excruciatingly slow

[frosty sinew]

just 90 seriers?

[frosty sinew]

thats BAD

[olive plaza]

all 30 series are subject to about 70% to 100% power spikes, 40 series it's less than 50%

same with 50 series it's less

but no it's not just 3090

[frosty sinew]

so like 4080 and 5080 below is prob fine?

[olive plaza]

well

[frosty sinew]

for a decent 850w

[olive plaza]

here's how I calculate this if I'm building a PC

I factor in 300W for "the system" with a basic CPU or 400W with an unlocked like a 14900KF or 9800X3D

and then I add the GPU's TDP

[frosty sinew]

im pulling 450 from the wall max cpu load

[olive plaza]

if it's 30 series I double the GPU's TDP

[frosty sinew]

so ive got 400w for gpu

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/nods-erica-the-great-canadian-baking-show-uh-huh-yeah-gif-4830410360856781727

[olive plaza]

and if it's 40 or 50 series I add 50% to the GPU'S TDP

[frosty sinew]

im just looking cuz i wanna take a gamble possibly

buy a for parts gpu and fix it

[olive plaza]

so rtx3080 tdp is 320W

[frosty sinew]

30 series is old now prob not that

[frigid stag]

What about for 3090 ti

1000w for gpu?

[nocturne flicker]

New Tron movie but it is being written by dog water tier modern writers so...

[olive plaza]

what are you talking about

wait let's stop here and assess what you just said

you think that because a GPU aged, it takes less power now?

[frosty sinew]

it isnt exactly new

[frigid stag]

“30 series is “old” so I don’t want it”

[opaque sedge]

U guys wanna watch me suffering thru a sekiro fight

[frosty sinew]

2020

[frigid stag]

2022

For the newest

[olive plaza]

no hang on

you actually believe that an RTX 3080, which took 320W at launch, takes less than 320W now

[opaque sedge]

Oh wait forgot i cant stream here…

[frigid stag]

5060 ti is 2025 and still slower 🤷‍♀️

[frosty sinew]

yeah but i wont buy a 5060ti

[olive plaza]

let's address that

the wattage doesn't change just because it's older

[frosty sinew]

wait what?

mp

[arctic lily]

i can play space marines two at max settings super smoothly

[frosty sinew]

no?

[frigid stag]

Age doesn’t mean much for hardware now like it did before

[frosty sinew]

i was saying its a little outdated

[olive plaza]

#general-chat message

[frosty sinew]

and im not gonna but smtg that old if im upgrading

[olive plaza]

so what did this mean

when you said

[frigid stag]

Kinda like how phone cameras plataued around 2015 or 2016

[olive plaza]

don't worry so much about the TDP, it's old

[frosty sinew]

like im prob not gojnna buy a 30 series

thats what i meant

[olive plaza]

oh I was so confused because you replied off a message where I talked about TDP

[frosty sinew]

yeah thats my bad

[olive plaza]

and you were all, dont worry about it, the card is old now

like HUH

[frigid stag]

So for 3090 ti you add 1000w for the gpu?

Since it’s 2x

[frosty sinew]

lol

prob

[olive plaza]

900W

3090ti is a 450w card

[frigid stag]

1600w psu 😎

[frosty sinew]

i mean ideally id get a 7900xtx or 9070xt

[dusk knot]

😭 😭 😭. My siblings just watched the Superman film.... It's just not good enough as with the majority of everything else in the past couple of years. Seems like there's no more good writers left in the industry. Either they're dead, retired or just don't care anymore.

[frigid stag]

ax1600i my goat

[frosty sinew]

cuz i like amd

[olive plaza]

I would ideally use a 1200W PSU for a 3090TI

[frigid stag]

My homie uses 850 lol

It’s good

[olive plaza]

he must not be pushing it, or his CPU is holding it back

or his 850W is just very good

[frigid stag]

Oh he has the 500w version

Ftw3 ultra

And rm850x

[frosty sinew]

yeah same

thats what ive got

[olive plaza]

I have a 3090ti sitting

[frigid stag]

His cpu uses like almost 300w

[olive plaza]

it's an MSI with a full coverage liquid cooler block from Alphacool

I just haven't gotten a good enough PSU to make a build out of it yet

[frigid stag]

I guess Corsair built the rmx well

[frosty sinew]

sammmme

[frigid stag]

It can handle being pushed to the max

[olive plaza]

rmx is solid

[frosty sinew]

yah no pop yet

[frigid stag]

Lol

[frosty sinew]

idk

gpus still expnsive af

[olive plaza]

what I should have done is picked up the 1200w FSP that was on a price error on Amazon a month ago

sub $100

but I was waiting on a paycheck and it hit after the price was fixed

[frigid stag]

Same but with the 300$ 13900ks 🙁

[olive plaza]

@frosty sinew if you're looking to do video encoding, get a 4070ti or higher. the regular 4070 and 4070 super have one encode engine, the 4070TI and up have two

[frigid stag]

I missed the deal

[frosty sinew]

nah i just want a better gpu

6700xt being a hold back

fr

[olive plaza]

just get a 9070xt

ez

[frosty sinew]

yeh still expensive tho

its that or a 7900xtx

[frigid stag]

The 9950x3d needs better

[olive plaza]

theres someone local-ish selling a 7900xtx at 400 bucks

he dropped it from 800

he needs to pay a bill or something

[frigid stag]

Wish there were good 4090 deals

[olive plaza]

if I had the money I'd pick it up

[frigid stag]

I’d rather keep my physx and hotspot temp sensor

[frosty sinew]

i wish

all like 1k cad here

[olive plaza]

speaking of Canada

[paper verge]

Wsg

[olive plaza]

not this past weekend but the weekend before, I visited my mom in Buffalo, and we went up to the nursing home where my dad is in rehab for an infection, in Tonawanda

we drove up along the river

[dusk knot]

Sound logic

[olive plaza]

so that's probably about as close to Canada as i can get lol

[frosty sinew]

lol

[olive plaza]

right on the 190

like we drove underneath the peace bridge

[nocturne flicker]

Or it could just be that there has been significantly more micromanagement in the industry than there used to. Some people in the industry are saying that the writers have been steadily having their work constantly monitored by producers and directors who can then pull the plug if they don't like what they are seeing. Even if the writers are good, we'll never know because the directors and producers are firmly in the way

Apparently the Marvel movies have been having that issue. Supposedly there is a representative for Marvel on set at all times signing off on everything personally

[frosty sinew]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/365734456311

[lone mango]

Damn I barely used this ssd

[frosty sinew]

i meannnn

[lone mango]

I got it in 2023 and there are 10 terabytes written to it

1450 hours

[frosty sinew]

heh

[lone mango]

Yeah thats like my sata ssd

Its my recording drive so it gets written to a lot

[olive plaza]

the oldest SSD I still have in use regularly is a 2TB from 2019

I bought that on Ryzen 9 3950X launch day, it was a first gen PCIe4.0 drive

it cost $450.

[lone mango]

I thought my 970 evo plus was used a lot more so I was gonna put linux on the new drive but this thing has barely been used so it doesnt matter

1450 hours over almost two whole years is funny

[olive plaza]

I'll check my drive health tonight

I think it's still like 97% or 98%

[frosty sinew]

yeah im using a 970 evo plus rn

[olive plaza]

after 6 years

[frosty sinew]

im prob honna get a 990 pro 2 tb

[lone mango]

10.3 terabytes written but thats with me cloning my laptops old drive to it, using that for 1.5 years, then cloning my desktop partitions to it

[frosty sinew]

i think im at 90 ish

[lone mango]

I cloned onto this thing twice and reinstalled linux and games more than once

So it was even less prior to that

I assume it had 8 terbaytes written to it before I put it in my desktop

maybe even less

[lone mango]

Lol no

It also has 10 terbytes on it too

[wind bobcat]

is there a place where I can get newegg promo codes?

[upper rain]

pulse cooler is rather lackluster https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-pulse/39.html

@blissful urchin

[lone mango]

Is that one of those with high vram temps

like 90c

[upper rain]

88C while pulling 50w less than the competition. so yeah

[lone mango]

The limit is 110c for vram but still

still hot

we are getting close to boiling temperature

my 6700 xt was below 60 lmao

[upper rain]

95C for GDDR6, 105 for GDDR6X

[lone mango]

but vram back then was always cooler

[lone mango]

damn fr

[upper rain]

the only cooler this one is better than/competes with is the asrock (ofc lol) taichi

[lone mango]

i must have mistaken what the guy said

[upper rain]

Nvidia put out a bunch of misinfo during Ampere bc a bunch of their FEs and several partner models ran memory out of spec

[lone mango]

at least steel legend is good

honestly that was the 9060 i wanted

[upper rain]

they at varying points said that all memory is safe to 110C, that GDDR6X is safe to 115C, that 105C is merely the throttling point, etc. thanks Nvidia

[lone mango]

but not paying $400 for it

[upper rain]

per GDDR spec consumer G6 modules are rated to 95C with some enterprise/etc. modules up to 105 iirc, but we don't get those on GPU. meanwhile Micron, the sole manufacturer of GDDR6X specs them to 105C tcase max

[upper rain]

understandable. did you not get the open box one you found the other day?

[lone mango]

I have it

[upper rain]

oh cheers

thoughts so far?

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

I have not used it in a game yet

I spent 30 minutes trying to turn off/change rgb

Ngl I thought I needed a gigabyte board but I downloaded the wrong software

Also a bunch of command prompt windows opened up like a 10 year old virus

What the hell is this jank

[sinful blade]

I want to

I wish I could afford it @arctic lily

[fresh timber]

why dont you save even if its a $1 a day

[rigid sinew]

i dont think i said hi today so hi everyone !

[frosty sinew]

hello

my mouth still hurt

[arctic lily]

rip

[arctic lily]

sup

[sinful blade]

Can’t do that if I need all the money I get

[fresh timber]

I know a kid in school who worked 5 jobs cause he wanted to get his money up

Why don’t you try more job

[sinful blade]

Wife
I have to basically be on call if something goes wrong

Jobs tend not to like that

[fresh timber]

😦

[tranquil pebble]

my desktop's boot drive is in its 11th year of service lol

[fresh timber]

So your current job understands

[fresh timber]

Rip hdd

[tranquil pebble]

SSD, actually

[fresh timber]

Kekhow

I would have been filled it past it life

Or killed the controller

[tranquil pebble]

its a 512 GB Crucial MX100 from 2014

has about 65% health remaining or so

[fresh timber]

i wouldnt trust that in my system

[tranquil pebble]

any data I care about is backed up anyways so it doesnt matter if it dies

[lone mango]

Should I put linux on this new drive

[fresh timber]

wanna know what i find funny, a steamdeck is faster than my gfs ccurrent computer

[tranquil pebble]

rip

[fresh timber]

even those 5700u mini pcs beat it

if i make her a pc id prob get a mini one with IGPU

if i had money money id buy her what i have now

[wary fjord]

Just let her have yours

Stay at optiplex

[fresh timber]

never

i have a pc i would give her but im selling it

[wary fjord]

XD

[fresh timber]

she unironcily would be better with a gaming laptop

[tranquil pebble]

Well 59% health actually, but the smart data is all good

[fresh timber]

like this

[wary fjord]

Jesus xD 59% how to old is it

[fresh timber]

i mean as long as it doesnt go into read only mode or controller dies it should be fine lel, im just giving you a hard time

[lone mango]

11 years

[tranquil pebble]

11 years

[lone mango]

Older than tablet kids

[fresh timber]

its funny

my friend kills like 5 sata ssds a year just using them

[wary fjord]

Hmmm

Fair

[fresh timber]

crucial, samsung, WD, hes killed them all

[tranquil pebble]

I have yet to kill any SSDs and I have had a number of them

[fresh timber]

push them harder

[lone mango]

Same I have had this wd blue for years

[wary fjord]

Some of mine have 99% and its been 5 years

[fresh timber]

you will burn out the controller faster than the NAND

[lone mango]

But I only wrote 10 terabytes to it

[fresh timber]

my pc is at like 70TB or something

[wary fjord]

What if she said.. "this ugly let me have yours"

[fresh timber]

oh she thinks mines is the prettiest

she put her finger prints on it and got mad when i cleaned it

[lone mango]

??

like dont touch my glass bruh

[fresh timber]

wanna know what somebody should create, gaming laptop thats also power efficent

[wary fjord]

How? Is she touching your glass lol haha whats the point of touching it

Like its on far side of the desk

It just a box

[fresh timber]

its a box with glowing lights

[wary fjord]

Ah u have those aquarium cases too?

[fresh timber]

yeah?

i think any pc with glass is a pretty glowing box

its funny, how the second i got a laptop i stopped using my pc

i havent touched it for a day

its been left on the same firefox tab

[wary fjord]

Because u run out of expensive games to play

Its a expensive entertainment box anyways

[fresh timber]

what a horrible deal

[tall pine]

Huh???

[fresh timber]

bro has no context and went HUH

[lone mango]

sotru

[fresh timber]

one day ill buy my gf a gaming laptop, one day

[wary fjord]

Write.. they talking about ✍️

[lone mango]

Incredible nvidia laptop ai geforce nvdia

[fresh timber]

[lone mango]

ai

[fresh timber]

i can get a g14 for less with 4060

[tall pine]

Why do you have 70TB? 3 of those 20TB HDD and some NVMe drives?

[lone mango]

ai

[fresh timber]

wrong context alpha

read again

i feel like being stubborn today

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

I gtg will check later

[fresh timber]

lol