general-chat

[main loom]

The store offers free build service though

[frosty sinew]

If its free I mean why not

[main loom]

Yeah.but actually i wanna feel building it

[frosty sinew]

Theres lots of guides online

[main loom]

But i dont have the experience of building it cause i never tried , but i have knowledge on parts and basic stuff

[main loom]

So im not going to ruin my cpu and mb and gpu ?

Even putting the gpu feels scary of how heavy it is

[frosty sinew]

I mean just don't drop the cpu on the pins and thats basically the hardest part

[main loom]

Drop it ?

[frosty sinew]

https://youtu.be/s1fxZ-VWs2U?si=Ch2B76lEYYqtKLuy

Id watch it fully then follow it along

[main loom]

It didnt showed how to do am5 socket

[frosty sinew]

Crap

[frosty sinew]

https://youtu.be/AJtfMrwmtZU?si=1_O5nht3fx4zJ9tQ

Here

[main loom]

Thanks dude but if ended up ruining my pc its ur fault

You made me think abt taking the step

[frosty sinew]

Its pretty hard to mess up lol

Any questions just ask or google

The cpu is the hardest

If you get that step your golden

[frigid stag]

save your time

https://youtu.be/Mmq_fASrTB4?feature=shared

2 mins only

for the basic stuff

[frosty sinew]

Yeah except he has no clue

[fresh timber]

Do yall also wait for door dashers to leave before grabbing your food

[main loom]

I have knowledge on parts and stuff but never build one

And cpu part is scary asf

How u should put it in the socket

What if u drop it slowly and it was not in place

[icy ore]

[frosty sinew]

No i get off my butt and walk to the place lol

[frosty sinew]

It will align

Its like a puzzle peice

[fresh timber]

You walk a 30m drive?

[frosty sinew]

Bike

Yeah

Not that I eat fast food anyway

[gleaming sedge]

30C fairly decent for a 3060 idle temp?

[fresh timber]

No it’s going to explode

[frosty sinew]

Yeah thats more than fine

[gleaming sedge]

perfect

[fresh timber]

are yo slecp

slhlep

[dusk knot]

I might have a future gf, guys

[frigid stag]

?

[proud jackal]

[wheat vigil]

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-sgt-hulka-stripes-gif-2448624411390215305

[dusk knot]

I'm working on it

So far soo good

[acoustic palm]

gl

hope you do better than me

[dusk knot]

Sorry to hear that

):

[weak cedar]

I have no clue

[sinful blade]

My business shows up on google
Sweet

[dusk knot]

No way

Congratulations

[sinful blade]

Google it(don’t dox me though)

[nocturne flicker]

He said don't do it that means we have to do it now (joke)

[dusk knot]

It's a must

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-smile-gif-16895765258759043699

congrats

[velvet summit]

Jesse

[lone mango]

I hate amd user experience

Glad that I daily drive linux fr

I swear I disabled the service but I guess it enabled itself, maybe from an update

[dusk knot]

Brazilian gf..leets gooo 😭

One of the nicest people I've ever met.

[wheat vigil]

[frosty sinew]

He hasn't done it before

Easier of the guide matches the socket etc

[distant ledge]

[sinful blade]

I just realized I only have it in my bio
I need social accounts

[nocturne flicker]

Dis you? https://www.reddit.com/user/buildMyBeast/submitted/

[wary fjord]

This is true

Same as shoes.. u save all those dint even wear it.. now u in your deathbed looking at it

The game was over

[dusk knot]

🤣

I've done that a few times with several games

I guess I played the game on hard mode

[fresh timber]

What do I Google

[chrome mirage]

I have SteamOS on my desktop and the battery meter shows me how charged my mouse is.

[frigid stag]

That’s why it’s better, less complicated

[fresh timber]

@sinful blade

ima buy you

[pliant berry]

lol

[misty sparrow]

thats pretty genius actually

[sinful blade]

Yes

[nocturne flicker]

...Actually?

[gleaming sedge]

what is considered warm to hot temps for a 3060 single fan gpu?

[lone mango]

Its all subjective

What temps you have rn

[gleaming sedge]

playing a very graphic intesive game i maxed out at 78.6C

[lone mango]

What is the hotspot at

[gleaming sedge]

93.9c

[lone mango]

Yeah thats high

Thats basically the highest the card can go

You did that deshroud right

[chrome mirage]

It's very useful

[lone mango]

I think the 120mm you had over it is not helping because of how much the fan pokes out over the card

Some people do 92mm deshrouds for shorter cards like yours

[gleaming sedge]

Guess just go out and buy a new card and give up on this 3060

Maybe a new actual fan would be better but I doubt it

[lone mango]

If you want you can try two 92mm fans instead of one 120

[lone mango]

Did you ever do a repaste

[gleaming sedge]

Thermal paste and pads

[lone mango]

Brutal

Well you can undervolt

[gleaming sedge]

Nah, I'll take the cooler off and replace the fan from the original

Pay like the 9 dollars and if it does not work it shows never to get single fan cards

[frosty sinew]

Yeah but way less specific

[sinful blade]

Yes

[frigid stag]

Most pcs are the same

[sinful blade]

I made a Reddit for it

[frigid stag]

Unless it’s an itx

[sinful blade]

Oh wait

No that’s not me

https://www.reddit.com/u/BuildMyBeastOfficial/s/wiPUAoeK7R

@nocturne flicker

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm

Can't get the name without official tagged on because some bozo made an account 15 years ago and never used it

[frigid stag]

I wonder if he ever built the pc

[fresh timber]

I can’t use 9070xt

[frigid stag]

Still crashing?

[fresh timber]

THANK RHE LORD

I FIXED MY VOLTAGE ISSUE

THANK FOD

[frigid stag]

Nice

So it works now

[fresh timber]

I HAD A LOSS CONNEction somewhere so it couldn’t keep stable

I’m staying at 11.8v and it’s staying their

The good old unplug and replug

[frigid stag]

Probably wasn’t a driver issue then

[dense locust]

[gleaming sedge]

Think the stock fan would do better?

[fresh timber]

Hardware problem

[rancid juniper]

me tee eee

[fresh timber]

Ru okay compooper

[lone mango]

Possibly, because of the fan not hanging over the heatsink

If yoy want you can try 92mm fans

[idle nexus]

PBO is almost more annoying than setting manual multipliers. Some random thing can cause reset even tho you stress tested for hours

[lone mango]

Or go back to stock and undervolt

[idle nexus]

I like the +200 boost tho

stock feels like I'm leaving performance on the table lol

[gleaming sedge]

I don't think I have one that size

[rancid juniper]

yuh

[gleaming sedge]

Nor the mount for it

[fresh timber]

CHAT

I FIXED IT

bvn

Ohhh

[gleaming sedge]

I'd just go stock and run it normal until dies probably

[fresh timber]

I KNOW WHATS ITS DOING

so if i remove the extention it will work perfectly fine

rip extention cables

[lone mango]

Why don’t you want to undervolt though? It might run a tiny bit faster because of the temperature headroom

[tall pine]

Lmao I feel you there.

[fresh timber]

time to figure out if its th 24pin or 2x8pin faling at delivering 12v

i think its the 24pin seeing 5v suffers too

[sinful blade]

Literally

[lone mango]

And you keep your card for longer

[tall pine]

By the way, @idle nexus I found a way to trick the V/F ceiling!

[fresh timber]

alpha i figured out why im shutting off

[fresh timber]

pretty sure 24pin extention isnt supplying enough voltage

12v and 5v runs low with it

[tall pine]

That's annoying.

[idle nexus]

how?

[fresh timber]

Yeah, that means I can’t use it

[tall pine]

I can DM you the info if you want.

[fresh timber]

Ima remove it and watch how it works fine

[tall pine]

I'd like to keep this trick up my sleeve, xD.

[idle nexus]

lol alright thank you

[fresh timber]

I have extension cables for a flip pc pog

[upper rain]

it feels like someone is driving a stake through my skull i hate migraines so much

[fresh timber]

lord foog want faulty extensions

[upper rain]

always

[fresh timber]

Go for a drive

[upper rain]

maybe i'll be put out of my misery

[upper rain]

can't, i'm cramming for an exam i forgot about 💀

[fresh timber]

Damn

Now in testing my gpu extensions

[lone mango]

Im gonna take my exams and what I get is what I get fr

[fresh timber]

Yeah it’s my 24pon

[lone mango]

They are all 10% so idc

[fresh timber]

I remove et emotion and now I don’t have any voltage drops

[gleaming sedge]

Would it cause any problems and idk anything about doing that

[fresh timber]

I need a new 24pon extension cable

Strummer time

[gleaming sedge]

I'd like to be able to take it apart goofy

[lone mango]

If you undervolt too aggressively then the driver will crash and reset back to stock

So nothing bad

[upper rain]

your entire house will explode

[lone mango]

Or if you are on the edge of stability you’ll see some funny things on the screen or the game crashes

[lone mango]

[gleaming sedge]

I mean 93 was PUSHING it so how I have it I imagine would be ok probably

[lone mango]

93 is the temperature limit for the card

So it was probably throttling

[gleaming sedge]

Probably

[upper rain]

that's abnormally high based on a review i'm seeing

is ur mount borked?

[gleaming sedge]

Probably

[upper rain]

remount

it should be like four screws. easy as pie

[gleaming sedge]

Thermal paste was not done right either more than likely

[upper rain]

tbf just put way too much paste and it'll work itself out

if ur entire GPU package isn't coated in goop you haven't used enough paste

[gleaming sedge]

It's 6 screw

[lone mango]

Wrf

[upper rain]

wtf are the other two for lol

[gleaming sedge]

I put a decent bit on and moved it so the entire die was covered

[upper rain]

unless you're talking about io bracket stuff

[upper rain]

bad mount then probs. do you know how to tighten the screws properly?

[gleaming sedge]

No the cooler has 6

[gleaming sedge]

Star pattern

Makes even pressure

[upper rain]

ie one rotation top left, one rotation bottom right, one rotation top right, one rotation bottom left, rinse repeat

[upper rain]

pretty much yah, but don't fully tighten each screw, do one-two rotations then repeat the star pattern until snug

if you fully tighten even a star pattern will have shid pressure

or rather really uneven pressure

which is still shid

[gleaming sedge]

Maybe die is messed up yet

[upper rain]

if they die is messed up the GPU wouldn't work

[gleaming sedge]

Top in what way is the gpu facing?

[upper rain]

starting screw doesn't matter too much as long as you follow the pattern

[gleaming sedge]

Would be so much better is not a crappy one fan

[upper rain]

i usually do top left when the power connector faces up, but it really doesn't matter

[upper rain]

one big fat 120mm SP fan is probs higher cfm than 2x thin 72mm ones tbh

[gleaming sedge]

Would I have to redo the paste as well?

[upper rain]

air shouldn't be an issue unless your fan is faulty or the static pressure is too low

[upper rain]

i usually add a tiny dot to the center, but keep the rest already on there

the extra is just in case removing the cooler messed up the distribution. a little extra will fill in any gaps you might have made

[gleaming sedge]

Could add tape or something behind the fan so air moves thru the cooler more

[upper rain]

ngl homie, as much as i was half trolling before, you will probably have better results just zip tying that fan flush with the heatsink vs having it slightly raised with a bracket to guide the air

the pressure will be concentrated on the high density area (finstack) instead of dispersing over a greater area

but your bracket is probably fine anyway, i'm leaning towards screwy mount as culprit

[gleaming sedge]

I mean there's not any more difference between 3 zip ties or the mount

Both going to have a major gap at the top of the fan

[upper rain]

i wish i had a photo of what i'm talking about, but it's really easy to zip tie it completely flush

[gleaming sedge]

It's already right up against the cooler

[upper rain]

ah ur good then

i thought the bracket had it raised up lol

[upper rain]

in any case, if ur cooler is actually good (seems to be), it's almost certainly just bad mount

[gleaming sedge]

I can try remounting, what's a good actual stress test to do to get temps?

[upper rain]

anything that puts full load on your GPU will do the trick

[rancid juniper]

is this supposed to be some passive card?

[upper rain]

no just a low profile one

[gleaming sedge]

No

[rancid juniper]

ah ok

[upper rain]

single fan low profile 3060

which tbf should be fine for a 3060

[gleaming sedge]

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/phoenix/ph-rtx3060-12g-v2/

[upper rain]

they're liek 175w default tbp. and i doubt an LP card is pushing above default TBP lol

[rancid juniper]

should've been a 75w tbh

[gleaming sedge]

Huh?

[gleaming sedge]

So once human with very high video settings

[upper rain]

at 65w 3060m performs on par with 175w 3060 desktop in non vram limited scenarios. it has like 5% more shaders, but still

3060 desktop is so out of the efficiency curve it's crazy

[upper rain]

sure

[rancid juniper]

thats actually insane wtf nvidia?

[upper rain]

3070 also loses almost no performance at like 170w iirc. especially if you push mem clocks a little to make up for lower core clocks

which is funny bc the 4060 ti which is supposedly so much more efficient than 3070 has a stock TBP of 165w lol

tbf it also undervolts incredibly well. i have > stock performance at 95w

[rancid juniper]

and then you have rtx 4060

a card with really low tdp

[upper rain]

mhm

[rancid juniper]

so much so that the mobile version is identical to the desktop

lol

[upper rain]

4060 is confusing to me bc nvidia made a whole ass separate die to save like 17mm^2 of die area lol. wtf is the point

[gleaming sedge]

I guess once my gf leaves for work I'll unplug everything from my pc again and redo the gpu

[upper rain]

ad107 vs 106 is legit like a 15mm^2 die area difference or something insane lmao

[gleaming sedge]

1660 or 1060 ranks #1 in my books still

[upper rain]

i'm a 1070 respector personally but i feel you

also 2080 ti

ngl i think all of the ampere cards bar 3090 aged like garbage. 3090 was like $3000 most of its life though, so hard to say it was worth it. if you got one of the 12 that sold at MSRP then sure ig

ada much the same. 4070 ti super was neat when it was $700 for a while there, but launched too late to matter

[rancid juniper]

cant tell if RDNA 3 aged well, well its too early to call

[worthy meteor]

nah tbh 3060ti 3070 and 3080 aged fine at msrp

problem was the scalping

[rancid juniper]

RDNA 2 however, i think did pretty fine

[gleaming sedge]

For me it's just my 1060 ran so nice and cool unlike this 3060

Tempted to sell it and get a 40 series

[upper rain]

for sure. 6800 was goated

[rancid juniper]

all cards in rdna 2 was goated except for RX 6500 XT and below

[upper rain]

imo probably better than ada on a price-comparison basis (ie 7900 XTX vs like 4070 ti lol), but "better than ada" is a low bar. both look to be aging pretty bad aside from a small handful of SKUs

[rancid juniper]

cant believe the RX 6300 exists

[upper rain]

6600 xt and xx50xt refreshes were sorta meh imo

[rancid juniper]

yuh

[rancid juniper]

i think the 6600xt held out pretty fine for 1080p gaming
6700xt went entry level 1440p for a killer price

[upper rain]

it was just in a weird spot vs 6600 and 6700/xt. you could spend not a lot more to get notably better performance, or save a decent chunk of money (as a proportion of MSRP anyway) and get non XT with not much less performance and way better efficiency

like it didn't age badly just markedly worse than the other neighboring SKUs imo

[rancid juniper]

ah yea that makes sense

so i guess it was the oddball in that roundup?

[fresh timber]

Ugh I need to buy a new extension cable

Old one is going to a flip pc that is less sensitive to voltage

[rancid juniper]

actually no, more like the middle child lmfao

[upper rain]

kinda yeah. it was the big 3060 competitor, but was still worse and had less vram and basically nonexistant features. whereas the 6600 was a bit worse, but was able to make up for the lack of features (imo anyway) by being like half the price of the 3060 lol

whereas 6600 xt was more like $230 ish to the 3060's $300 ish by the time prices had gone down

[rancid juniper]

yikes

yea there was no chance

XD

[fresh timber]

No features

I have a 6600

[upper rain]

real. because to me if i'm going to get screwed out of features and vram, i'd might as well get the most ripping insane price/performance option instead of pretending that i'm at least competing on performance

and 6600 was legit like half 3060 price for like 20% worse performance or something iirc

[rancid juniper]

i feel like same can be said to 6750xt no?

i dunno but that thing was a slightly clocked up version

for way more

[upper rain]

oh wait they're actually more competitive than i thought

[fresh timber]

No features

[dusk knot]

Hhmmm

[rancid juniper]

FSR 2 existed

[fresh timber]

Wait I have a 3060 on my desk?

[rancid juniper]

real

[upper rain]

yeah tbh with that perf gap tho 6600 xt for like $50-80 more makes even less sense lol

[fresh timber]

Pog

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[upper rain]

fsr 2 is... not great imo haha

[rancid juniper]

I still remember that quality

the ghosting

[fresh timber]

I use it.. too blind to tell

[rancid juniper]

shimmering

YIKES

[upper rain]

okay i need to go study lol, catch you all later

[rancid juniper]

I'd still prefer XeSS over FSR despite slightly lower performance

its just better visually

[gleaming sedge]

this is after about 5 hours of running, about 3 to 4 has just been it sitting with discord open. cpu as well for fun

[rancid juniper]

cya

[fresh timber]

Fs4 is better wdym

Xess looks the same to me tho

[tall pine]

Misa annoyed

[rancid juniper]

do you see me owning an RDNA 4 card?

☠️

[fresh timber]

I legit struggle to tell

[fresh timber]

7800xt can run fs4 on Linux pipsqueek

[tall pine]

BCLK 104 caused my GPU to fail the boot process

[fresh timber]

I lost the argument so I will bring up niche features

Wahahahah

[rancid juniper]

with crap performance thanks to unsupported instructions sure

[fresh timber]

My internet is faster I win

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[fresh timber]

Now that my pc is fixed

What do u play

[rancid juniper]

variety

[tall pine]

Attempting bCLK 103.5

I am desperately trying to get 5.9Ghz on CCD0...

[dusk knot]

Hello peoples

[upper rain]

1700mhz is pretty awful

good temps will get you to like high 1900's usually, sometimes low 2000's without even overclocking really

which works out to what, 15% more performance?

[rancid juniper]

hello JP

[dusk knot]

Hello compooper

How's life 🧬

[rancid juniper]

fine, the same even but its good this way

[dusk knot]

Gud

Because I'm having a great time

One of these days, travel

It makes a difference in life

[rancid juniper]

well traveling to new places you've never seen accompanied by interesting architectures and culture does enhance that life experience

[dusk knot]

Mmhmm

Best to go outside the country

[rancid juniper]

yea

[tall pine]

Misa annoyed.

[gleaming sedge]

How bad is my cpu?

[tall pine]

@fresh timber my CPU is being limited by my board's PCIe refusing to go above 102 stable.

[fresh timber]

damn

im 90% sure my overclock is stable now

[upper rain]

it's a 7800x3D unless you don't put a cooler on it at all it'll run basically the same. they cap at 5.05ghz

[fresh timber]

my voltage issue has been solved now...

which explains why my overclock become stable than unstable

[tall pine]

Oh neat.

@idle nexus setting Scalar is allowing my CPU to presume higher frequencies despite the same temps

[fresh timber]

on motehrboard or pc

[tall pine]

Motherboard.

[fresh timber]

damn

im cpu limted again 1% lows not real

ok am i crazy or does xess vs native look the same to me

ok a good reason to use xess is lower power draw

[gleaming sedge]

Good to know, it's been one heck of a cpu for me that's for sure

[fresh timber]

ima reapply my overclock now that i have cleaner power to my pc

this is alot better

it was dropping ALOT more

[tall pine]

Welp unfortunately, Scalar didn't work the way I wanted.

My temps are an issue with the higher frequencies.

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber I almost just got really really drunk

[fresh timber]

how

[acoustic palm]

I almost drank this

[fresh timber]

drink it, act stupid later / joke dont do that

[tall pine]

@fresh timber, @idle nexus FINALLY!!! HIT 6GHZ ON CCD1 FOR THE FIRST TIME!

[obsidian warren]

guys help

my laptop is sad

[fresh timber]

poggers

run 6.1ghz 🙂

[tall pine]

Limited by bCLK.

[fresh timber]

god amd cant do shit

[tall pine]

It's my board's PCIe that is limiting me.

[fresh timber]

with intel we j ust dump voltage and full send

[fresh timber]

wait how is pcie limiting the CPU

im confused

[tall pine]

I need a board with eCLK so I can raise the base clock of specifically my CPU

bCLK raises the reference clock (base clock) that the entire PC's runs on.

[fresh timber]

base clock

[tall pine]

So it's overclocking my SSDs, RAM, and GPU.

[fresh timber]

is the boost clock really just adding +3ghz or what ever intsead of setting it to like 5.1ghz or what ever

so for my cpu instead of saying run 5.1ghz it just adds the diffrence

so if i increase base by 0.50ghz i would run 5.15ghz intsead of 5.1

[tall pine]

Not sure on Intel

But for me

Base Clock 100 = 100mhz

If I do bCLK 102

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-14307036094483991064

[tall pine]

That raises the base to 102mhz because of a 2% clock increase

[fresh timber]

i need new extention cable

ima use my fault ones on a flip pc

[tall pine]

Please don't use damaged parts in a flip without a disclosure.

[frosty sinew]

ready for prime day

[misty sparrow]

watch em raise the prices and then lower back down to OG prices to make it look like a "sale"

[frosty sinew]

thats what the ss is for lol

[obsidian quest]

i have a $1100 CAD budget for a new PC, should I buy used off marketplace or build my own?

[frosty sinew]

have you built a pc before

[misty sparrow]

i was gonna say price tracker but screenshots good too

[obsidian quest]

building it is not the issue just wondering which ill get better value

[frosty sinew]

used for sure

as long as you know what to look for

i havent bought a new gpu ever

i just buy used last gen and flip my old one

[obsidian quest]

Do you think this is worth $1100 CAD?

GPU: NVIDIA GEFORCE 4060ti
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700x
Ram: G.Skill Trident 32gb DDR4
SSD: NVME 1TB
Motherboard: Asus prime B550M
750w Platinum rated psu
Case: Thermaltake v270 TG PC case
CPU cooler

[frosty sinew]

yeah i wouldnt call that awful

seems p good to me

if you ever doubt it just spec it new on pc part picker

[fresh timber]

its not damanged, just.. not good at voltage

your talking to somebod with little to no morals

@tall pine what will give out first, 500w smart or extention

[frosty sinew]

@obsidian quest https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/fPnZ3w

1500 new with a few assumptions

[obsidian quest]

What would be the intel equivalent of that processor? I know nothing about amd

[frosty sinew]

uhh let me check

performance or price wise

[obsidian quest]

performance

[fresh timber]

around a 11700k

[tall pine]

Not sure

[fresh timber]

lol

[fresh timber]

lol im doing 5500 6600 build, and ima make it look like its worth $1000

[idle nexus]

I haven't ever seen evidence of scalar being bad. That's just what I've been told since 5900x days lol

[frosty sinew]

man

[fresh timber]

ggood

did u see what i said

[frosty sinew]

i put my 360 rad on my 5700x for fun

[fresh timber]

i fixed my overclock

it wasnt vcore, or anything like that

[frosty sinew]

its 45c full load lmao

[fresh timber]

it was my psu

[frosty sinew]

checks out

lol

[fresh timber]

that explains why it was stable from testing and randomly decides not to be st able

[fresh timber]

i want moeny

'and this instock

[frosty sinew]

dont we all

[fresh timber]

even if i could i wouldnt get that

[frosty sinew]

worth it

trust

[tall pine]

Why not?

[fresh timber]

good point

[frosty sinew]

lolll

my parents are buying it its fine

✨ grad gift ✨

[fresh timber]

i got a new gpu

i would get a cpu but i wanted gpu

[frosty sinew]

6700xt good enopugh for me lol

plus this cpu will last me a looooong time

[unreal trail]

[sinful blade]

I want money

https://www.newegg.com/onix-lumi-8346-00278-arc-b580-12gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814987002

[fresh timber]

cpu too slow

you need 12100f

someebody get mr rooma a 12100f

[sinful blade]

I have a 5700x

[idle nexus]

I have one & I don't recommend tbh

[frosty sinew]

my man

[sharp dew]

I have one that does 5.4ghz

[fresh timber]

lol

i want a 12100f just for my girlriend

im using fsr1

it looks fine

@tall pine @idle nexus how blind am i that fsr1 looks fine

holy this game at 600fps is alot better than 240 capped

[south sapphire]

So on bottom right, I used to be able to access both Nvidia App and Nvidia Control Panel. But when I click on Nvidia App option it doesn’t open. I have to hit windows button and do it that way. How can I just eliminate the Nvidia app logo from that bottom right window

I tried looking online and googling but I can’t seem to find a way to totally remove it from that window. Even reinstalling the app, it put it there and I didn’t see a way to not have it there.

I did reinstall the app which I have done numerous times but it’s almost like I can click Nvidia App via Nvidia logo in system tray and you can tell the PC recognizes the click but it doesn’t do anything. Clicking Control Panel works fine

[upper rain]

i'm that guy 🐐

[upper rain]

pretty blind, it's basically just a sharpening filter over a reduced render res lmfao

[fresh timber]

how to anger overwatch players

[unreal trail]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-bone-dance-move-grooves-gif-16655466

[upper rain]

ask them about their bmi

[frigid stag]

LOL

[acoustic palm]

wtf is this terrible chart

[acoustic palm]

this is a joke right

[upper rain]

if you buy that list we will beat you to death with hammers.

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-iron-man-beat-to-death-with-hammers-gif-10938607665122103434

[acoustic palm]

well beat the... person who made it

[tall pine]

Not very situationally aware I'd say.

But if it works for you, go for it

[upper rain]

both

[fresh timber]

lol

@upper rain i acted the same way i do in newegg right, the mods in techsupport send me dm

they dont like how i told somebody have fun with their drifting switch 2

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

and how i enabled your non sense about your 9070 lolll

[frigid stag]

Ye most servers are too uptight

[fresh timber]

they legit are mad cause i post screenshots of my tech and just the dumb crap im doing with it

[frigid stag]

XD

[upper rain]

what was the dm about?

[fresh timber]

ill post a photo of my cpu overclocking and they think im bragging

[idle nexus]

what game? is FSR 1 the only version available?

[upper rain]

nobody helped me fix it 😢

[fresh timber]

i post my 9070xt and they thing im bragging. dawg im overclocking

they got mad when i called a 5500 slow

cause it is

[fresh timber]

overwatch

[upper rain]

bragging about a 2-3 gen old midrange CPU that melts itself to death is crazy work

[fresh timber]

fr

my pc isnt even that impressive

it just looks nice

[upper rain]

not that it's a bad CPU but it's still insane lol

[fresh timber]

yeah

[upper rain]

i mean it's pretty solidly high end

[fresh timber]

they get mad when i post my car

[upper rain]

you're looking at basically 5080 performance with overclocking, and a CPU that's still on par with current gen stuff in gaming mostly

[fresh timber]

legit i post the corvette and they go all, OMG your an poop hole

your car is to loud blah blah, your neighrbors hate you

[frigid stag]

[fresh timber]

dawg, you talking to me like that is the reason i troll

[upper rain]

my car is loud but that's because itms a shid box (it's my shidbox and i love it)

[fresh timber]

no they think im a ass because all the cars in my house are "too loud" and i dont care

and i talk about making it louder

[acoustic palm]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2QMBpK much better 1500$ build... then whatever that other person cooked up

[frigid stag]

Lmao it’s not even that loud

[fresh timber]

sir, yall called me a ass first, sorry about that but ima jus troll yall at that point

[frigid stag]

I think it can be minmaxed more

[acoustic palm]

maybe

[frigid stag]

5070 ti and idk what else

[fresh timber]

Oh wanna know what ticked them off lordfoog

[acoustic palm]

5070ti isnt fitting in the budget.

[frigid stag]

Let me try

[fresh timber]

me doing a 0-60 in a street got them sooo pissedd bro

[acoustic palm]

1100 cad

😭

gl getting decent other components for 400

[fresh timber]

and they got even more pissed when i did not care about anything they had to say

[upper rain]

assuming it's not insanely expensive to import or whatever it should be like $50 cad more to go 9070 over 5070 but otherwise i support it. i'd probs go ali 7700x over new 7600 tho, but if they want new/warrantied parts that's fair

[fresh timber]

i think this requires lordfoog to join back and troll

[acoustic palm]

its 100 cad more

[fresh timber]

do it

worth

[acoustic palm]

but if they get ali 7500f they can afford it

[fresh timber]

downgraed evreything els

[acoustic palm]

9070 is a much better card than a 5070 anyway

[fresh timber]

the 9070 is a much better card than the 9070xt anyways

[upper rain]

dreadful

[upper rain]

yeah, i'd do that

maybe scrape together the extra $60 to go 7700x over 7500f too, but meh

[acoustic palm]

wait

im looking at the convo

huh

[fresh timber]

i will never go back to 6 cores on my desktop

NEVER

[acoustic palm]

wtf is this guy doing

[upper rain]

?

[acoustic palm]

read up

[fresh timber]

@upper rain is this fast 🧌

[upper rain]

should i get the hammers

[acoustic palm]

yes

[upper rain]

okay lemme read then

[fresh timber]

quoker

[acoustic palm]

hm

[fresh timber]

can u rebuild my pc

[acoustic palm]

oh yeah

i went crazy in ranked today

[fresh timber]

if i sold my pc with a 7700xt for $1500, what would you buy to upgrade it for $1500

https://pc.vextroboomin.xyz

[upper rain]

brother was pricing out same pc even tho it's new-old 5 year old stock? 😭

[tall pine]

?

[fresh timber]

9950x3d amd spend $500 on eevrything els 🤔

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/rigbycat-rigby-cat-tongue-gif-18357263336141773644

[tall pine]

What you talking about about

[fresh timber]

server thats anti talking about your own hardware all the time like we do here

anti loud cares, anti fun

anti critizem

they do NOT like lordfoog

[tall pine]

Yikes

[fresh timber]

they got mad when i said "is this fast"??? yal would be like lmfao no, nah give me it, they are like: your not funny

[upper rain]

you're typing like i do a few drinks deep after not sleeping for 48 hours

[fresh timber]

oh i just downed a whole 2 litert pepsi

[upper rain]

i like it

[misty sparrow]

2gigabit internet is crazy

[upper rain]

bro they wouldn't help me fix my defective card

[fresh timber]

yeah

[fresh timber]

fr

[tall pine]

How much do you pay for internet?

[fresh timber]

$110

[tall pine]

Damn

[fresh timber]

lordfoog, you should join back and genuily talk about your modding and overclocking

[tall pine]

What state do you live in where it's that cheap???

[upper rain]

the funny thing is they were such curmudgeons they wouldn't even screw around after taking the bait

[fresh timber]

IL

[tall pine]

Illinois?

[fresh timber]

they dont screw around like ever bro

[fresh timber]

yes

[upper rain]

coming to your location rn

[fresh timber]

lordfoog

[upper rain]

can't have shid in detroit

[tall pine]

Unlimited data I assume?

[fresh timber]

my eletric might not handel your pc, but my internet can

[upper rain]

wait that's michigan

[fresh timber]

lmfao yeah

[upper rain]

same state

[fresh timber]

yes

[upper rain]

who cares

[fresh timber]

if it wasnt i wouldnt be doing speedtest all the time

i just got this intenet and prob used like 2tb

[upper rain]

run a diesel generator inside of your room with no ventilation

[fresh timber]

my plan includes unlimted data and i dont get 1.2gig

[upper rain]

leaked yr addy vro take that down

[fresh timber]

no i didnt

[upper rain]

yah u did

[fresh timber]

where

[upper rain]

lmfao

[fresh timber]

its at the top

STOP RAGE BAITNG ME

[upper rain]

[fresh timber]

SMH

[upper rain]

but it's so funny

[fresh timber]

my addy is at the top

lmfao

lordfoog if you came over and brought a long ethernet cable you could stay

il have to make more desk room tho

[tall pine]

1Gbps Unlimited here in Alaska is $180/MO

[upper rain]

i have so many things i could say that would get me bonked for a long ass time

[fresh timber]

my wirelessi nternet is alright

i get about 200mbps consistnatly all around my house

next to the routers 500-600

[upper rain]

lemme show you my speedtest lol

[fresh timber]

i have two APS 🙂

im hjust glad i get 200mbps on wifi around my house

thats like.. perfect for everyday use

[upper rain]

download is actually hype rn, upload is also really good. ig because everybody is asleep. usually it's like 40 down 2 up lol

[fresh timber]

damn

even at my moms house its not that slow

[frigid stag]

your Latency is a bit high

[upper rain]

we pay like $15/m for the cheapest option

[fresh timber]

if i kept my dads 50/10 internet speed with the new streaming boxes my speeds would die

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[upper rain]

that's just how it is tbh

[fresh timber]

i got gigabit so the tvs can stream and nobody will complain

i already had people complaining about the internet being out like god damn bro stop calling my phone its out for me too

[upper rain]

i don't do lots of big downloads and even when it's slow it's fast enough to stream so it works pretty well

[proud jackal]

HOW IS SUNDAY ALREADY OVER

[fresh timber]

who do you lvie with

[upper rain]

latency gets bad when lots of people are connected but that's just my router being a POS $3 thrift store special

[upper rain]

all my fam atm

[fresh timber]

buy them better intenet

[fresh timber]

lmfao did you really thrift it

[upper rain]

no i'm not made of money

[upper rain]

yeah kek

[acoustic palm]

oh no

[fresh timber]

lol

[acoustic palm]

ap exam scores today

AHHHH

[upper rain]

it's a nice router tbf but it was clearly there for a reason

[fresh timber]

ask them to chip in

[upper rain]

it throws fits every now and again and just refuses to work

[upper rain]

i'm the eldest and literally only my mom is employed besides me lmfao

all my siblings bar one are too young to work

sending her to the mines fr

[fresh timber]

make the one who can work work

[upper rain]

so true

[fresh timber]

if they add a extra $15 a month what typa intenet can u get

[upper rain]

i offered to help her with commute and get her a job since she is car-less but she doesn't wanna work at the places i've worked for before lol

and i can only really set her up with people i've worked with before

[fresh timber]

why doesnt she

tf

[upper rain]

no idea lemme check

[fresh timber]

nepotism bro

[upper rain]

they were not great places to work lol

[fresh timber]

if they liked you, im sure they will like her more already

[fresh timber]

oh

[upper rain]

no fault of management, they were just min wage teenager kinda places, so if u were good at ur job you'd be doing everybody's job kinda thing

[fresh timber]

so your doing more than your worth

[upper rain]

my managers were all chill bc i wouldn't work with any who weren't lol

[fresh timber]

my friend had a job at wendys, they was racist

[upper rain]

yeah, by a wild margin lol. my people made it up to me tho :) job prior to the one i'm at now i got like $500 in pastries every week lmfao

[tall pine]

I wish each core on a CCD were the same quality...

[fresh timber]

they made him pick weeds outside, and after he asked what to do next the manager got mad and told him to go home

and i asked other peolpe who work their what they do, nobody has picked weeds months afte that happeneed

[tall pine]

Each core liking different values but being unable to set voltage for each individual core means I need to find one that all cores like

[fresh timber]

imagine if amd binned each ccd similary

id be pissed if one ccd was golden sample and the other was pure slop

[upper rain]

wtf it's literally $20 extra to go from 40mb/s to 500

[pseudo raven]

if youre in the states

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-emoji-skull-meme-memes-memes-goofy-ahh-pictures-gif-3488729682660050463

[pseudo raven]

samsung trade in should be better than amazon

[frigid stag]

It’s everywhere

[upper rain]

@fresh timber

[frigid stag]

It’s in Europe too

[pseudo raven]

and you can probably get rakuten cashback too

[upper rain]

if i didn't spend so much on take out i could buy this easily

[tall pine]

I am kinda experiencing that right now.

[upper rain]

buddy you're not gonna believe this...

[tall pine]

CCD0, great CCD albeit finicky, CCD1 the core quality is so all over the place I don't know what the hell I should do

[fresh timber]

ngl

if i could id do it

[upper rain]

yeah but that's like a whole takeout dinner a month that i would have to lose out on :(

[fresh timber]

take out or intrenet

[upper rain]

i won't make it unless i spend 50% of my paycheck on food i can make at home for like $4

[upper rain]

take out >>>

ngl i have actual reasons for spending money on food but they're kinda stupid

[fresh timber]

do you want a 5090

sir

[upper rain]

downpayment or 10 5090's

the future is truly now

[fresh timber]

if i had a job im ngl i would do it

[upper rain]

lmao

which one

[fresh timber]

astral of course

[upper rain]

kek

in that case

downpayment or 6 5090's

[upper rain]

[proud jackal]

you have my attention

[fresh timber]

i would open a credit line just for it loll

[upper rain]

then move somewhere that doesn't extradite to US

[fresh timber]

lmfao

id klarna it and forget

[upper rain]

based lmfao

[fresh timber]

i have no credit histroy, id prob get denied

[upper rain]

klarna is dead now tho

[fresh timber]

good

i can klarna stuff and forget

[upper rain]

if ur in uni they give u whatever bc they want you to be debt slave for the rest of ur life

[fresh timber]

o'

[frigid stag]

You can klarna a pizza lmao

It’s such a scam

[fresh timber]

id spend $400 a month on a 5090 if i was making more than that

[upper rain]

what even was their business model? repo a pizza from a bunch of stupid people who can't afford a fast food burrito in the first place?

[fresh timber]

wait legit what would they repo?

[frigid stag]

I have no idea

[fresh timber]

i have NOTHING too

im 18 what re they going to take?

[upper rain]

hindsight is 20/20 but foresight is fcking eagle vision or whatever with that company going under

[frigid stag]

Probs to get some interest rate

[fresh timber]

i have no car, no house, nothing

[upper rain]

anyone with a >room temp iq knew what would happen. i wonder if the execs just got a bunch of venture capital and dipped lol

[fresh timber]

if we want to speak on technicals, my pc is my parents pc

if they came to my hose to repo id just point them to a room that isnt mines

basement pc? oh thats my dads

[upper rain]

no clue, bc that process takes time and money and most of the shid people were buying was like $20 lmao

so like what even is the plan there

[fresh timber]

idk

spend $200 to get $20?

seriously,. how do you get your money back from somebody with no money

i aint got shit to loose

[lone mango]

They do now

[fresh timber]

gimmie a 5090

[lone mango]

When I saw the ebay promo it said there is a rate

[fresh timber]

what cpu should i klarna with my 5090?

[frigid stag]

149ks

[upper rain]

just one?

[fresh timber]

my eletricty cant handel it

my lights already dimm when my pc is under a full load

[upper rain]

just resell em local so no written record

put it offshore

lmfao

[fresh timber]

omg could you make moeny off klarna 5090., then scalping it??

[upper rain]

i probably should not recommend people commit financial fraud in a public discord

tis but a joke

lel

[fresh timber]

wait

is buying something with a credit line then selling it illegal..

cause you could just klarna a bunch of 5090s and resell them, use some of them oney to pay the debt

[lone mango]

Idk but klarna deserves to go out of business

[fresh timber]

wait you can just use a normal credit card for that

[lone mango]

I mean you could but the repercussions are real with that rather than klarna

[fresh timber]

i dont belive thts illegal to do with a credit card atleast

[upper rain]

failure to pay debts is not a crime and you can't be jailed for it, but you can suffer in civil courts for it. i assume it's some kind of fraud to knowingly spend lended money and then never intend to pay it back, but even that's not quite what i was describing which was like actual fraud lmfao

which btw don't do

[fresh timber]

lmfao

ill pay it back

just not now

[upper rain]

i'm focusing on criminal law not financial lol, i'm not the giy to ask about this

[fresh timber]

lol

[upper rain]

i'll pay it bacn when i'm reincarnated as jeff bezos' son

[fresh timber]

im pretty ure my stuff is setup so if i go into debt it charges my moms account

[tall pine]

I find it strange how Thread 1 and Thread 2 on the same core can have a 100mhz performance difference

@fresh timber @idle nexus

[fresh timber]

so the core is running diffrent than the thread

i notice with my overclock my CPU idles at a lower frequency

i can prob have e core run 4.4 again

instability was prob unrelated

but the diffrence in perf doent exist

[acoustic palm]

soooooo

[fresh timber]

@upper rain @idle nexus do you know if i can get tvb to run more than 5.3ghz

i wanna try 5.4 but the benfits of tvb seem too good

[tall pine]

Do you have any thermal or voltage headroom left?

[fresh timber]

oh i have hella thermal room

i can juice up my E core alot more sense they dont generate as much heat as the P cores

P cores, got a little room left, i only hit 80c

occt vcore reporting is incorrect

im going with hwinfos

[upper rain]

i haven't owned an intel since 9th gen lol

i don't rhink tvb even existed back then

[fresh timber]

damn

irrc my TVB doesnt let me pick more than +2

i bet i could dump 10-15more wats into my ecores before i have problems

@tall pine I ggood had me dump more voltage into my e cores and more Pl, temps barley changed lol

[tall pine]

Hmm ok

What cooler and ambient temp?

[fresh timber]

let my cpu heat soak

idk my ambient

i know cold

ls720se cooler, im at 80-82c rn at 220w

i got room

[tall pine]

Misa happy and angry

CCD0 is now doing 5.77-5.79 Sustained

It's so close to the goal of hitting Fmax 5.811...

I am between 20-50mhz from hitting 5.811Ghz sustained on CCD0.

[fresh timber]

ima go stress my ecores until they are unstable

[tall pine]

@fresh timber @idle nexus I am so close to 5.8 Effective.... Testing using Super Pi (4M).

[fresh timber]

stop having higehr clocks than me

[lone mango]

fr

[tall pine]

Never!!!

[frigid stag]

Run the 13600k at 5.9ghz

[tall pine]

Just you wait till I am in a financial position to delid

[fresh timber]

i dont think i have thermals

[tall pine]

1,260mm radiator with dual pump and delid

[fresh timber]

ngl i would delite my 13600kf too

[frigid stag]

Jk don’t degrade it

[fresh timber]

do you need a special cooler for that?

[fresh timber]

i like to get the lowest possible ovltage for a given clock speed

[tall pine]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

if i can run 5.6ghz at 240w i would daily that

[tall pine]

I plan to get TG's Mycro Direct Die V1 Pro

[fresh timber]

i know my cpu runs 5.6, okay 99.9% chance it can run 5.5 stable

chances gets lower after that

maybe 5.8 *maybe

some 13600kfs hit 6.1ghz

[tall pine]

Trying -45 CO to get 5.8 effective working

[tall pine]

With a lot of voltage and ample cooling I'd imagine

[fresh timber]

Turbo Boost Max 3.

[fresh timber]

custom loop

[tall pine]

Figured.

[frigid stag]

160 fps on a 15 year old cpu

[fresh timber]

how do i find the best core on intel

is their a app for it or nah

[tall pine]

Seems for every -5 CO I do

I gain another 50mhz

[fresh timber]

damn

rn im getting xtu

i wanna see what data it tells me that im not seeing

[tall pine]

I am monitoring by hand

I start a test and closely watch how each core behaves in HWinfo

[fresh timber]

I have no idea how to property monitor each ore

Unlike you I don’t have two ccds to focus on. So I guess it’s easier

I know with E cores you can only control them in chunks of 4

[tall pine]

Watch for Effective and Instant Clocks on the core in question while running a program like Super Pi or CoreCycler

Set the affinity to the core you want to test

5.8Ghz effective!!!!!

[fresh timber]

Somebody should make a app that does that

[tall pine]

Agreed

[fresh timber]

One that keeps clocking each core higher and higher giving more and more voltage until it gives out

Or you give a set voltage and it just clocks until failular

[tall pine]

Core 1 is easily my best core on CCD0.

It clocks about 120mhz faster than my worst core

[fresh timber]

I really should figure out what each core can do

I get some can boost higher at this voltage than others

I’d have to stop using TVB tho

[tall pine]

You can't do per core adjustments with TVB?

[fresh timber]

Mhh

I’m not sure I’ll check

I’m makin something to eat so Gimmie a sec

Should I go fatter with my e cores

Rn they are at 4.3

5ghz on e cores when

[tall pine]

Definitely worth trying imo

[fresh timber]

Ima have fun with e cores sense you can only tune 4 at a time

I can’t wait when I get a new motherboard and ram to do it all over again

[tall pine]

You will at least know what your CPU can do

[fresh timber]

Yeah

Will be ALOT easier to tune knowing my limit

[tall pine]

So you can apply the same settings and if they still work then you know the board is at least as good if not better

[fresh timber]

Main different will be ddr5

I’m only doing ddr5 cause a I’m bored and wanna play with d5, B I can slap 12600k and sell the old stuff in a pc

[upper rain]

AMD's software kinda does both of these but not very well. issue is that you need to test every possible kind of workload. so AMD will often supply settings that work- under load anyway. but opening task manager or notepad or something will boost a core too high and you'll black out

[fresh timber]

12600k 7700xt sounds good

[upper rain]

it's a solvable problem, but AMD doesn't feel like fixing it ig

nobody uses their software anyway so ig it makes sense

[fresh timber]

I’m about to find my best cores

Air fried pizza is so good

[tall pine]

Progress! Most of CCD0 hit 5.8Ghz or higher effective.

[fresh timber]

Reheated pizza is better than fresh

[tall pine]

Instant clocks are all hitting system limit.

Now I need to figure out how much voltage I need to get this stable under load

[fresh timber]

ugh what is vbs

I enabled Undervolt protections

[tall pine]

Temporarily disabling CCD1 while I finish tuning CCD0.

Should give me a lot less headache

Also a lot more thermal headroom now that I think about it

[fresh timber]

Does disabling mess with power limits and stuff

[tall pine]

CPU has access to the same power limits

Just half the cores aren't active so it's using a lot less power overall and this producing far less heat

Basically my 9950x3D has become a 9800x3D on enhancers while CCD1 is disabled.

[fresh timber]

isnt their a benfit of running 9950x3d with the x3d cache

[tall pine]

?

[fresh timber]

wouldnt it have lower temps than a 9800x3d because thie cpu is missing half its cores?

[tall pine]

No same temps assuming if the two are at the same settings

[fresh timber]

oh

[tall pine]

Still a 8 cores setup

[fresh timber]

yeah

thats interesting how disabling half the cores doesnt really drop temps much

[tall pine]

What do you mean? Disabling 1 CCD lowers temps a lot

[fresh timber]

i got xtu, its um.. useful to see whats happening

[fresh timber]

oh

yeah i ment disabling half cores should make it have lower temps

[tall pine]

Yargh the CPU is being finicky about the voltage offset

[fresh timber]

ahh yes

i have it drop to 220 for thermals, i have more room than that

mhh

this makes it alot easier to oc lol

@upper rain ru woke

[upper rain]

im awake

[fresh timber]

how excatly do you do you uh figure out your cores?

do i just keep increasing clocks until said core dies

[upper rain]

asus will give you biscuits that tell you core quality. idk if other motherboard bios have similar features

[fresh timber]

i dont think tuff do

[upper rain]

sadge

besides that i'm not to sure

amd's software gives you a rough idea of core quality. unsure about intel

[fresh timber]

this dont work

lol

i told core 1 to have 54x ratio

[upper rain]

im giing to try to unwoke now

[fresh timber]

gn buddy

[upper rain]

ty

sleep well soon

[lone mango]

my abs are sore

[fresh timber]

gn

[fresh timber]

overclock ur 7600

no more sore

[lone mango]

i already have +200 pbo

and -50 co

[tall pine]

Only gained like 5c thermal headroom

[tall pine]

What CPU?

[fresh timber]

ugh

idk why xtu wont let me increase clocks

huh

[tall pine]

I am feeling bold. I am gonna disable all but my best core on CCD0 and see if I can take top 20 for Super Pi.

[fresh timber]

okay so i got it to do it

i got 5.4ghz

tvb off

per core clocks isnt working

sad

ima go to bios

[lone mango]

9600x

[fresh timber]

Cloud has a 6 core

Laugh at him for having better single core than me

[misty sparrow]

why did you give him the greg heffley haircut

[fresh timber]

He’s bored with his wife drawing characters

Duh

[tall pine]

Pretty good then.

[fresh timber]

@sinful blade how does one acquire a wife

[simple cedar]

this is gonna sound like a stupid question tho but, steam deck lcd or rog ally?

[tall pine]

Do y'all think I can take top 20 for Super Pi (1M)? I just disabled all but my best core and set all clocks to the max with a -50 co

[fresh timber]

Okay so I can’t boot with my new clocks fun

[tall pine]

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