general-chat

[fresh timber]

Huh

Double?

[misty sparrow]

yes, double

[fresh timber]

I’m confused

[misty sparrow]

two, dos, more

[fresh timber]

Overclock my cpu

[rancid juniper]

wat

[fresh timber]

Im going to do a lazy Undervolt

Offset until unstable

[rancid juniper]

any undervolt is better than none

cuz ur 13600k really needs it

[fresh timber]

I keep hitting 200w pl

It’s annoying

[idle nexus]

true story lol

you can disable the setting that has it downclock ring ratio so your minimal or max is the only option lol

I'm overclocking my 13600K rn too

[fresh nova]

Probably has more thermal limit.

[idle nexus]

trying to get 8000c36

[fresh timber]

I gave up with everything and just using TVB and undervolting until I can’t

-1.5v crashed, -1.250.. works

[idle nexus]

-1.5v??

[fresh timber]

and my voltage isnt crazy

[fresh timber]

vrm offset

[idle nexus]

default is like 1.3 lol

[fresh timber]

my cpu will go to 1.5v

for some reason

[idle nexus]

you mean -0.5v?

[fresh timber]

benfit, my voltage drops even lower

[idle nexus]

disable VRM spread spectrum

[fresh timber]

yeah thats what i ment

[idle nexus]

ah okay

[fresh timber]

i have no idea how to find that

[idle nexus]

okay hold on heck

[fresh timber]

im just trying to get my cpu to boost under real loads

its doing this

just not under load

[idle nexus]

expand that

that's what you should actually care about

[fresh timber]

does it even do much

[idle nexus]

not what the clock is set at

[fresh timber]

lemmie put a load

[idle nexus]

okay so run R23 or something else all-core

[fresh timber]

occt

[idle nexus]

what Instruction Set?

[fresh timber]

ima load r23

[idle nexus]

try SSE

AVX/AVX2 usually automatically downbins

[fresh timber]

cinebench

OO

its doign it

ITS DOIGN IT

[idle nexus]

noice

[fresh timber]

and its not drawing insane amount of power

[idle nexus]

now go raise your L2 voltage & run ecores at like 44x too lol

[fresh timber]

idk how

v

good good

vcore staying low

happy happy

[idle nexus]

you can disable AVX2 offset

[fresh timber]

in the bios?

[idle nexus]

yes

[fresh timber]

i think i saw that

should i lower my PL until i cant maintin 5.3ghz?

or keep it at 200

cause it works

[idle nexus]

Extreme Tweaker>AVX Related Controls:
AVX 2: Enabled
AVX2 Ratio Offset: User Specify
AVX2 Ratio Offset: 0

[fresh timber]

you know this is getting really close to my dirty 5.6ghz oc i did a while ago

[fresh timber]

bet

ima clsoe every app and test

[idle nexus]

also try this: Advanced>CPU Configuration>CPU - Power Management Control:
Boot performance mode: Turbo Performance

[fresh timber]

is this good

[idle nexus]

Extreme Tweaker:
Ring Down Bin: Disabled
Min CPU Cache: whatever you set this to is the only speed it runs at
Max CPU Cache:

well the world record is 37411 but that's at 7.7ghz lol

58x pcores & 47x ecores scores 28490 so like 4k difference

wish I knew what it ran stonk

that's really what's worth comparing it to

supposedly stock is 23960

[fresh timber]

Stock is pooo

[idle nexus]

so decent improvement

[fresh timber]

Doesn’t sound right to me

I never got that at true stock

The real intel settings

I was at like 21000

[idle nexus]

try Extreme Tweaker:
Efficient Core Ratio: 44
CPU L2 Voltage: Manual Mode
CPU L2 Voltage Override: 1.25v

[fresh timber]

Enable turbo mode.. maybe that’s why I can’t boost well on default settings

I don’t feel like testing that theory rn

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

I’m looking

[idle nexus]

TVB ignores ecores afik

nooo that's how you deposit cash at an old bank

[frigid stag]

true

[idle nexus]

lol

[fresh timber]

According to @upper rain e cores don’t do much

[idle nexus]

they will for R23 score tho lol

[lone mango]

yup

[frigid stag]

It can withstand getting run over by a car they say

[idle nexus]

lol for those of us who constantly carry our USB drives with us

but have slippery pockets...

I dunno I'm reaching here already

ig it's for spies for after they break into server room, get the data they need, & have to make daring escape

[frigid stag]

XD

[idle nexus]

one less thing to worry about ya know?

[frigid stag]

it’s probably for military

[tranquil pebble]

R23 Skyline GT R

[frigid stag]

Like those rugged laptops

[idle nexus]

I wanna drive one of those someday fr

[idle nexus]

lol ya those panasonic ones

for paramedics

[frigid stag]

They’re dope

[idle nexus]

panasonic for paramedic

[fresh timber]

Uhhh

[idle nexus]

the letters make sense

[fresh timber]

Mr good

My score dropped

Doing that stuff

[rancid juniper]

imma go sleep now

[fresh timber]

Same for my max effective cloc

[tranquil pebble]

Skyline GT Rs are so cool

[fresh timber]

Ima revert

[idle nexus]

lol never enable SLI indicator

[idle nexus]

what were effective clocks?

maybe try 43x ecores instead of 44x

[idle nexus]

actually, I bet it's because of your power limit

[fresh timber]

Yeah I though about that

I gave it 20more watts

[fresh timber]

I need better cooler

Your temps are better

[idle nexus]

I think on default ecores get like .9v lol

open bench with loop isn't really a fair comparison

plus delid

& liquid metal

[fresh timber]

Oh no wonder

I want a lcd AIO

Excuse!!

Extra 20w did the trick lol

[idle nexus]

Watts = Amps x Volts so if you up the voltage on the eCores, it's gonna use more wattage & it's gotta come from somewhere in the power budget

[idle nexus]

gngn

[fresh timber]

It’s not getting as hot

Is it cause science science

E cores heat is spread out or something

Easier to cool?

I finished cinebench but my system froze

More volts to e cores?

[lone mango]

They generate less heat

[fresh timber]

So I can feed more power easily

[idle nexus]

try like 20 more watts

[fresh timber]

Okay

[idle nexus]

ya less heat, especially cuz no HT

[fresh timber]

I start throttling at that point

But in theory I shouldn’t hit the 100c

I wish they let you change PL FOR p and e cores separately

[idle nexus]

or drop ecores to 43x & drop to 1.2. That should still run I think

[fresh timber]

lol

If temps the good I’ll keep this

My score is looking good

Be close to my 5.6ghz oc while being more.. stable and less aggressive

[idle nexus]

I wonder if you do per core use OC if TVB still does the voltage optimization thing

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber what happened

[fresh timber]

Added more power, temps still good

[idle nexus]

or try 1.275 for science

[fresh timber]

Overclocking the way Intel wants it done

[acoustic palm]

uh oh

[fresh timber]

Oh

I only used 9 more watts

lol

That’s all it needed

[idle nexus]

see if that works

[fresh timber]

More volts?

[idle nexus]

but did the system crash out after R23?

[fresh timber]

Not this time

[idle nexus]

ah okay so that's good then

[fresh timber]

should i leave it and run occt linepack overnight

im at my dads house so overclocking is 50x easier cause.. no heat problems

or air

noise

[idle nexus]

you could try tighter loadline & +2boost

[fresh timber]

im using 3 right now

or 5

ima go check

i forget what i touch

This is free performance

And I’m learning e cores can use a lot of power with out making package temp go super high

[fresh timber]

I’m alr using 2boost lol

[idle nexus]

ya they're nextdoor to pcores but far enough away lol

[fresh timber]

Yeah

I’ll keep them coocked high

Free performance

I’m using this rn

[idle nexus]

is 13600K layout the same as 13900K & they just disable some stuff?

[idle nexus]

it says Level 4 is Recommended for OC in my BIOS so maybe use that

[fresh timber]

What the diffrence

If 3 works

[idle nexus]

if you wanted to try to keep going ig but nvm

[fresh timber]

I’ll keep it

[idle nexus]

go to TVB & instead of "+2boost" what does it show when you change to "enabled?"

[idle nexus]

I think it lets you set multiplier for number of cores used

[fresh timber]

I get per core

Do I touch or leave

[idle nexus]

for 1-core, what's the max boost on 13600K usually? 56x? try 57x & leave the rest alone for now

then run R23 but single core

actually

change 6-core active to 53x

since we already know that works

the option is probably "User Specify" or something

[ruby yarrow]

hey guys i’m wanting to buy a gpu and seen the 15 dollar off from 100 gift card

can it be stacked

[fresh timber]

This sounds like what static oc does but better ngl

It hits that in a non stupid way

Ohhhhh it can hit two different clock speeds depending on tenure

[idle nexus]

the last time I ordered something from Newegg, it gave me the option to "use gift card balance" then deducted the gift card balance from the total which I could then pay for normally

[fresh timber]

Idk what to touch here

[idle nexus]

or do you mean if you like bought 5 of them for $425, could you use all $500 at once?

[fresh timber]

I’m going back to 2+ kek

Works for me

[idle nexus]

aw heck that's to set how much it downclocks once it hits a certain temperature

[ruby yarrow]

yes

i’m about to buy a gpu

[idle nexus]

I have no idea if that would work in tandem with doing per core use OC tho

[fresh timber]

Sad

[ruby yarrow]

ai google said yes but idk if i can trust it

[fresh timber]

I’ll leave it

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber rate my new wallpapers

[idle nexus]

I would think so since my gift card balance reflected both cards I added ($100 + $75). The only thing that might mess things up is if you buy gift cards that you don't get them right away cuz they're like actual physical cards?

[fresh timber]

Kid

[acoustic palm]

theyre fire shut up

[idle nexus]

right above where it said "Efficient Core Ratio" is where you can set the pcore OC thing

[fresh timber]

I just exited the bios

[ruby yarrow]

they’re email so it should be instant

[fresh timber]

Gimmie a sec

[pliant berry]

re zero, nice

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber Watch your language.

[ruby yarrow]

there’s no refunds so a little risky

[idle nexus]

makes sense. Are there like $5 or $10 gift cards that you could get two to check?

[acoustic palm]

this feels like an admin question

[acoustic palm]

tuf haha

[idle nexus]

I mean, I'd think worst case scenario, you'd just have to wait a little bit before you purchase the GPU--like if the card balance isn't instant... you could always ask neweggservice during business hours iirc

[fresh timber]

Shut up too broke for a 9800x3d

[acoustic palm]

i can buy one, i choose not to

[fresh timber]

Excuses

[acoustic palm]

when i become a millionaire ill buy one

[fresh timber]

Lies

Good, can u use my pc now or do you want to know more

[idle nexus]

we're not officially affiliated with Newegg so I hesitate to say it would or wouldn't work cuz I just don't know 100% & I can't speak on behalf of Newegg (i.e., if something goes wrong, I have any meaningful way to fix it)

[acoustic palm]

wdym lies

[idle nexus]

Performance Core Ratio: By Core Usage

[ruby yarrow]

i’m seeing 4 on google i wouldn’t want to waste it

[idle nexus]

then set everything to 53x except 1-Core Ratio Limit to 57x for now lol

[fresh timber]

5.7giggle hz single core

[ruby yarrow]

i’ll just do 2 to be safe

[idle nexus]

ya maybe ask neweggservice tomorrow between I think 9am-5pm pacific time

[fresh timber]

Good

Work for them

Get on payroll

[idle nexus]

can probably do 5.8-6.2ghz if you bin the cores & didn't update BIOS with latest microcode that prevents VID requests >1.55v lol

[fresh timber]

lol I don’t want higher

I want my cpu not to die

[idle nexus]

it's just for single core

how many cores do games usually use? I'm not even sure tbh but I know it's not like all-core workload constantly

[fresh timber]

I uhh

Mines will max them out

Also 5.7 no boot, prob something to do with my Undervolt I don’t wanna touch

[idle nexus]

okay okay nvm then lol

+2boost is good enough lol

[idle nexus]

oh wait, you beat @rancid juniper 's score already so all good lmao

[fresh timber]

Oh pog

Me happy

I beat him

[idle nexus]

might also be that setting core ratios conflicts with TVB

[fresh timber]

True

[idle nexus]

damn I wish you had the "Boost to Target" option lol

that crap is kinda fun ngl

like here you go TVB, boost to 6.2ghz. Figure it out lol

[fresh timber]

I failed to boot

It froze

WTH

[idle nexus]

also the "Trained" SVID behavior option is nice cuz the board is supposed to figure out vCore

[fresh timber]

Should I set it to trained

[idle nexus]

it has that option?

[fresh timber]

I’ll check

[idle nexus]

I didn't see it before I thought

it's after "Intel's Fail Safe" for me

[fresh timber]

I forgot to check it

I’m an idot

Oh I don’t have it

It mentions but doesn’t give me the option

[idle nexus]

under that does it say ASUS Multi-core something?

Enhancement I think

[fresh timber]

Thats on

Remove all limits

[idle nexus]

ah okay. Maybe bump loadline to Level 4 & try to boot again

[fresh timber]

Yes

It boot

Shall I run prime 95 all night good good

[idle nexus]

might get really spicy

but ig any stress test will

& you gotta stress test

[fresh timber]

Ban them

[fresh timber]

If it’s stable it’s my new daily

5.3ghz yumm

Good

Don’t let them slip past you

[idle nexus]

wait, was that not a bot? lol

[fresh timber]

It is a bit

It’s posting a crypto gambling scam thing

[idle nexus]

oh okay so ban was a good idea then

[fresh timber]

Yes

Good good

[idle nexus]

you actually clicked on it? lol

[fresh timber]

1.3v

[fresh timber]

It’s just images

They don’t have embed perms

[idle nexus]

that should drop under load

[fresh timber]

Very happy with the results

[fresh timber]

This is under linepack losd

[idle nexus]

oh damn & your temps aren't wild?

[fresh timber]

Highest temp is 87c

[idle nexus]

lol I can see them right there. derp

[fresh timber]

They are within the spec

[idle nexus]

that's not bad since it's going hard rn anyway

[fresh timber]

Now in a hot room it might not be that cold

I may have to go to my extreme uv if i go back home and it’s hot

My entire system is overclocked now lol

[idle nexus]

true but you're running all-core stress test which isn't exactly normal use conditions lol

[fresh timber]

Yeah

I wonder if gaming got a improvement

Loading Fortnite

[idle nexus]

I'm trying to think what other games are really heavy CPU stress test

but ig you already have a baseline on performance for that game so it makes sense to compare there

[fresh timber]

Yuh

I’ll run 3d mark in a sec

I bet my score improved

[tall pine]

What you guys talking about?

[fresh timber]

It’s a secret

[tall pine]

Let me in on it.

[tall pine]

Minecraft + Nvidium + Distant Horizons

[fresh timber]

I did a AMD verson of those mods

[tall pine]

Set Distant Horizons to "I paid for this whole CPU"

[fresh timber]

I ended up using 48gb of ram

Lmfao

I made chunk loading multithreaded which in return ate ram, and cpu

[tall pine]

Your CPU will scream for dear life lmao

[fresh timber]

oh

its funnny how sensatiev this game is to cpu and ram

[tall pine]

Good fps

But what the flip

[fresh timber]

4000mt/s vs 3200, i go from low 400s to high 500s,

[tall pine]

Are those visuals

[fresh timber]

overclocked the cpu, almost can get 600fps

[fresh timber]

performance mode all low, the right way to play this game

its soo much smoother bro

i need my 1% lows to work right

[tall pine]

...

These cos are giving me a headache.

I tweak one core to sustain higher clock than another core ends up boosting slightly lower as a result.

[fresh timber]

Give it more power

[tall pine]

I would

[fresh timber]

look at this

my 1% lows are at my refreshrate

pog

[tall pine]

But I can't because of the damned way PBO works

[tall pine]

Nice!

[fresh timber]

laughs in intel

[frigid stag]

Gpu usage is pretty high

[tall pine]

How long have you had it? Are the degradation issues fixed?

[fresh timber]

before the issues existed

[frigid stag]

They were never an issue in the first place if u didn’t run stock voltages

[fresh timber]

well they always exitewd

[fresh timber]

guess who never ran stock this guy

[frigid stag]

Based

[tall pine]

You should see my 3070 scream for dear life at high 90% use lmao.

[frigid stag]

It’s fortnite I doubt it will

It’s probably at like 20%

[fresh timber]

at high fps like me

nah

[tall pine]

Marvel Rivals and Minecraft with Shaders mostly.

[frigid stag]

You can run 1000 fps without hitting anywhere near 90% on modern nvidia cards

In fortnite

[fresh timber]

ima test minecraft fps in a sec

[frigid stag]

In creative, regular br is more cpu bound

But you’ll still be on low usage

[fresh timber]

should i buy a 12600kf for $50

closed box

[tall pine]

Cyberpunk with DLSS quality my 3070 reached 100% use with my 7950x3D. I don't even want to know what it'd be like on my 9950x3D.

[fresh timber]

1% low broke

pog

[frigid stag]

Ye

[tall pine]

Yeah, XOC the lonely thing

[frigid stag]

About the same

It’s always 100% cause it’s very gpu bound

[fresh timber]

lol,k ill use it in a flip

12600kf 7700xt would go nice toghter wouldnt it

[frigid stag]

3090s were running that game at like 40 fps with everything max 4k

It’s demanding

[fresh timber]

I want a 3090

Not for the price they all for

I’ll buy one for $300

[frigid stag]

5070 ti super 24gb

Idk how they’re doing it on a 256bit bus tho

Sounds whack

[tall pine]

A few months back I saw some between $400-500.

[fresh timber]

this seems better than before

not sure

stable 300

means i can cap at 240

[tall pine]

I kinda want to try a static OC tonight in CR23 just to see how high I can get the frequency.

[fresh timber]

Prime 95 is open, I now will go do other stuff

[fresh timber]

I quit static oc

I’m getting better results with TVB

[tall pine]

Not for daily. For benching

[fresh timber]

OH

[tall pine]

I keep doing all this PBO stuff so much that I kinda wanna try static for like 15-20m just to fits around

[fresh timber]

If TVB went to 5.4ghz I’d be happier

I know my cpu can do 5.6ghz

[tall pine]

5.6 static?

[fresh timber]

@idle nexus any good in faster e cores or nah

[fresh timber]

Yes

[tall pine]

Dang

Seems high for that chip

[fresh timber]

I’m only 1k points ish behind that score with 5.3ghz..

[tall pine]

500mhz Increase?

[fresh timber]

$7$

What

[tall pine]

5.6Ghz static from the 13600kf's stock boost xlock

[fresh timber]

Yeah

[tall pine]

Isn't it 5.1 for that chip?

[fresh timber]

Yup

[tall pine]

Nice sample.

[fresh timber]

I’m hitting 91c

Ssd

[tall pine]

Where do you live?

[fresh timber]

Sus

Stranger danger

[tall pine]

Give me that chip!

[frigid stag]

My idles 2x’d in this heat

Getting like 40c idle temps

[velvet summit]

I saw a very dimly lit Gordon Ramsay ad and I thought it was speed for a half second

[frigid stag]

😭

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[fresh timber]

No

[tall pine]

What's your ambient?

[fresh timber]

I’ll give you my chip for a 14700k

[frigid stag]

Wdym

[tall pine]

My idle is around 50c.

[frigid stag]

Room temp?

[fresh timber]

I don’t know my ambient, I’m in a basement that’s always cold

[velvet summit]

Idle temps are the least useful metric ever

[tall pine]

Mine is 12-14c at night.

18-22c during the day

[frigid stag]

I’m at 2x that

[fresh timber]

To be fair to don’t like high idles either

[velvet summit]

I idle as high as possible

[frigid stag]

I’m not even going to try gaming on it now, it’s like a heater

The gpu alone is like close to 400w

[fresh timber]

I don’t think I’m going to crash

[velvet summit]

Idle basically is just fully passive for me

[fresh timber]

My entire system is overclocked

[frigid stag]

I’m starting to understand why people undervolt now

[fresh timber]

It gets a lil toasty, nothing more Undervolt can’t do.. I can prob do SLIGHTLY more

[velvet summit]

Around 60-70 idle

[frigid stag]

That’s like my load temps usually

[fresh timber]

My mom’s house has terrible air circulation so my pc warms it up pretty well. Undervolt requires it I will start throttling from high ambient

[fresh timber]

Lucky

[velvet summit]

95 load with fan at like 70%

[fresh timber]

Mine hit 92c

[frigid stag]

Well if I run it now it’ll probably hit 80+

It’s hot

[fresh timber]

Oh.. I have my fans slower

Nvm all my fans are at 70%

[velvet summit]

Somewhat hot ish chip

[frigid stag]

I need some noctuas for no noise

And still cool temps

[fresh timber]

I have two separate exhuats fans in the same header, but the fastest ones are spinning at 1800rpm, idk about the others

My intake fans are at 1000rpm

But my exhaust as more resistance so it should be fine

[frigid stag]

That’s pretty quiet

Mine are almost at max when I’m using it

[fresh timber]

For the load I have, very

I’m make a new curve just for intake

I think they can pull more air in

[frigid stag]

Can take off the front for extra airflow

Or the side panel

[fresh timber]

If I take side panel off my intake just blows into the room

lol

What’s the point of a daily if I can’t close the casw

[frigid stag]

True

[fresh timber]

Aye I got the intake fans to spin 15% faster off same curve

that’s neat

More air comming in

Barley noise difference

Ok they can spin at 100% just fine

Noise difference doesn’t exist

[frigid stag]

Need to try push pull

[fresh timber]

It’s amazing

Allows me to pull off lower rpm’s

I wanna pull off a faster ram

But I’ll have to use gear 2

[fresh timber]

Goose ghost

[proud jackal]

[fresh timber]

Get it pookie

[fresh timber]

Hi

[tall pine]

I am trying to decide.

Have CCD0 be able to do:

• 5.86Ghz in small boosts and 5.7Ghz sustained

• 5.8Ghz frequent bursts and likely 5.75Ghz sustained

@fresh timber @upper rain @idle nexus thoughts?

I seem to be thermally and voltage limited to be able to sustain 5.865 currently.

[fresh timber]

Hi

[fresh timber]

Give more voltage

[tall pine]

I want to but I am unable to.

Unless I use Scalar which gives a little bit but I keep getting mixed answers regarding if that's a very bad idea.

[fresh timber]

Dug

Why

[fresh timber]

So it anyways

Full send

[tall pine]

Core 1, 3, and 5 are being a pricks

Those cares love to clock high but hate being undervolted

Hmm this is a stubborn situation.

All the cores are now doing 5.7Ghz sustained and hit 5.8. I am trying to get 5.8 sustained but core 1 hated the undervolt needed

Cores 6 and 7 are the most confusing by far.

[slate fractal]

can someone help identify this 1660 super without the brand sticker?

i gave a guy on fb marketplace a usb with windows 10 for his 1660 super he upgraded from, and I'm trying to find the exact model and brand for reselling and other purposes (the metal part that covers the pcie slot is gone aswell) but the stickers were peeled off so i have no idea.

I tried using chatgpt but it couldn't figure it out without the stickers.
I do know it's not a big manufacturing brand but that's about it

[topaz crown]

Hello @slate fractal! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[slate fractal]

oh mb

[tall pine]

Those two cores can do -100 and -80 co but can't stand high frequencies. They are Undervolt extremists. @fresh timber

[wary fjord]

Its not pealed off

[slate fractal]

theres supposed to be the brand on the fans from what im told

[fresh timber]

Are you a super soldier

Because I’m a chicken nugget

[wary fjord]

That card

[slate fractal]

that card?

[wary fjord]

That card Is mllse 1660 super

https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/Mllse-Graphics-192-bit-DisplayPort-Cooling/dp/B0C7GPRNLQ

[fresh timber]

Buy it toms

Tommy poo

[wary fjord]

Looks offbrand

But works the same

[slate fractal]

i looked it up and theres multiple manufacturers that made the same design

idk

gpt said it was maxsun

[wary fjord]

Yeah its an offbrand gpu

U buy it slap your brand

And sell it

Mlse is the one who sells it alot

[slate fractal]

still okay for a usb stick right

[wary fjord]

On Amazon and Alibaba

[wary fjord]

I dont know what u mean by that xD gpu usb?

Are u trading it

[slate fractal]

the rizz is immense with this one

[slate fractal]

i gave a guy on marketplace a usb with win10

and he gave me that gpu

idk

[tall pine]

I give in.

I am settling for 5.7Ghz sustained and 5.814Ghz Fmax.

Now to tune the CO for each core then move onto CCD1.

[slate fractal]

and there was apparently an actual brand on it cause it's got sticker residue
the guy peeled the sticker off unless someone else also put a brand on it

[fresh timber]

Are you a glick because I’m a man

[tall pine]

Huh?

[fresh timber]

Like my rizz

[tall pine]

@fresh timber how far do you think I can lower my CO on core 6 and 7 before my Speed starts dropping.

[fresh timber]

Idk AMD much

[tall pine]

I am at -45 on both

[fresh timber]

Sorry

[tall pine]

Hmm then I shall insert a number into your head.

Most of the other 9950x3D owners can't stabilize -20.

[wary fjord]

Hmmm thats sus

I wont put that on my build

[slate fractal]

yeah i havent tested it, it looks not broken it just has the pcie cover removed

[wary fjord]

Put it on optiplex

Best way to test weird gpus

[slate fractal]

dont have a spare optiplex
had one but kind of dissected it for a experiment and maybe kind of a little bit broke the cpu pins

the pins are so soft why cant we pet them

[tall pine]

I may have just found a way to raise the voltage ceiling without touching Scalar.

Will report back in a moment.

[fresh timber]

I’m itchy

Stacy

[tall pine]

To be confirmed.

I am currently messing with Core Voltage offset

[tall pine]

No use. Core Voltage offset only increases the voltage used for a given frequency. It does not actually increase the voltage ceiling.

[iron topaz]

gm

[wary fjord]

Cleaning time one fan done... 9 fan to go xD

[main loom]

Guys is 5070 ti gaming oc by gigabyte is fine ?

[wary fjord]

Fine

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/aWfMibZ8t00?si=mjX0tLndyazkdoov

[upper rain]

the gaming OC coolers have been some of the best value for the last few gens. haven't paid attention to RTX 5000 since it sucks, but the Rx 9000 GOC coolers are excellent, and the coolers are practically identical this gen

[pliant berry]

I have not cleaned my pc in a bit

[proud jackal]

[ruby yarrow]

does packaging mean the order has been processed

apparently there’s a rush processing i didn’t even know about and if you don’t pay for it it doesn’t get shipped til next day

[upper rain]

usually it means they're lumping your order in for bulk dropoff/shipment at some point in the future. could be that day, could be a day or two after

[ruby yarrow]

i was under the impression paying for next day meant it comes in next day

that’s what the estimate siad

[upper rain]

it will probably ship sometime this evening/tonight direct or near direct to your address

[ruby yarrow]

good to hear

i was thinking if you didn’t pay for he rush processing it wouldn’t get shipped till the next day

[upper rain]

it probably says exactly what you get in the various shipping policies, but i assume it's just waiting to be lump-shipped with today's shipments

[pliant berry]

typically "next day shipping" or "same day shipping" just means that they send it out to the carrier the same day or next day

[ruby yarrow]

that’s what i always thought but there wouldn’t be a rush processing if that was always the case

let’s hope they ship it out today thank you guys

[main loom]

MSI VANGUARD EDITION SHOULD WORTH 1170$ ?

LAUNCH EDITION

[rancid juniper]

ads on word...
ADS ON WORD

bleak future fr

[pliant berry]

an ad on word.. for word?

[rancid juniper]

bar for bar

[grand kernel]

done @royal crow thanks

[royal crow]

Np

[remote geode]

just pull them blades out

[tranquil pebble]

At least 365 doesn't have ads. If it did I'd be pretty upset.

[main loom]

i got msi vanguard 5070 ti launch edition

just to get my hands on some stupid labubu`s of msi

[proud jackal]

You just compared lucky to a labubu

[rough zinc]

Just say no

[main loom]

which better

[rancid juniper]

Real

[rancid juniper]

Fr

[remote geode]

just answered the steam hardware survey

they think my system is a lappytop because it has a battery

[upper rain]

@fresh timber #graphics-cards message i found someone else to harass about selling me cheap hardware

[royal crow]

when you almost cough and sneeze and throw up at the same time💀

[rigid sinew]

good morning frens

[royal crow]

'lo

can i get free 9060 XT pretty pls

[rigid sinew]

if i could i would

[royal crow]

(i lack funds)

btw how does one get to newegg shuffle

[rigid sinew]

(i also lack funds)

[dusk knot]

I to lack funds

[unreal trail]

I lack funs

[proud jackal]

No you

[pliant berry]

Ugh I really need a proper kvm switch

I spend so much time restarting my monitor, pcs, etc trying to get inputs to be not stuck

[rough zinc]

Shuffle still exists?

Remember it being a thing when 30 series came out, thought it ended

[fiery arrow]

I guess I need to file a claim with Newegg for a replacement Torrent case

[wary fjord]

Hmmm

[fresh timber]

My pc froze at 3am @idle nexus 😦 @tall pine @grand kernel

I gave w cores 0.025 more volts

Tf

You just was running

Idfk how it’s fine for one day then next day nah don’t work

I lowered e core clock

[upper rain]

raptorlake'd

[dense locust]

degradation

[royal crow]

get thee a 265k

[upper rain]

unironically yes. if it wasn't on a different platform at least

LGA 1700 ARL would have been neat now that 265k is so cheap

[dense locust]

Oh god the avatar decoration shop

Not surprised but discord still finds ways to disappoint me further

[fresh timber]

I want a Intel x3d

[upper rain]

novalake is supposed to get ellc iirc

[lone mango]

Free yourself
https://www.onlyoffice.com/

https://help.obsidian.md/install

[fresh timber]

Wanan get nova lake for other

Toghter

Ima ask mommy for one

[upper rain]

i want one too tbh

i may get one if it's not insanely expensive

otherwise i'll stay on AM5 and go zen 6

[fresh timber]

Real

Just give me 12p core on one ccd

[lone mango]

Amd forever

[fresh timber]

I just want 12 p cores

E cores is a plus

I took out garbage

Basement stink

[lone mango]

Cor

[upper rain]

i think that's what zen 6 does iirc

or maybe zen 7

[fresh timber]

Better

I want more cores

[fresh timber]

I’m undrtvolting until unstable

Mostly e cores using way too much power than they need to

Did I say e cores

I ment P core

[upper rain]

imagine if e cores were bigger so that the power draw would make sense bc bigger performance

and then imagine if we took away the P cores, or only had 2-4 of them but made them enormous

oh

[fresh timber]

Uhh

[lone mango]

Typically the fine wine kicks in after a while, but after 3 months is crazy
https://youtu.be/aWfMibZ8t00

[fresh timber]

Gaming

[fresh timber]

I’m happy

I’m not complaining

[upper rain]

tbh i think they just reduced driver overhead lol

[lone mango]

E cores have less instructions

[fresh timber]

I’m really undervolting until unstable arnt I

[upper rain]

which makes sense because afaik they have onboard hardware for scheduling, and nvidia hasn't since maxwell. so overhead should be minimal/borderline negligible

[fresh timber]

AMD gpus can schedual?

[upper rain]

i don't really see the issue tbh, they seem capable of doing pretty much everything a p core can, and the edge cases where you need legacy instruction sets probably run well enough on emulated instructions anyway given they would presumably be legacy (old) programs

[fresh timber]

E cores are slow

Try playing games with only 2 P cores

[rancid juniper]

I switched to my uni account and everything is fine

Thanks for the recommendation tho

[acoustic palm]

@rancid juniper 5070ti is officially worse than 9070xt

[rancid juniper]

Fr?

[acoustic palm]

Yup, huge gains on new driver

[rancid juniper]

Sick!

AMD "finewine" technology

[proud jackal]

Telling myself I don't need 6000cl26 ram

[upper rain]

two giant cores twice the speed as the current ones also with ELLC cache, and then make the E cores a bit bigger with more cache

Intel needs to hire me smh my head

[acoustic palm]

yeah new hwub video, i tried it out but didnt have time to properly benchmark

[upper rain]

i wonder if this makes my 9070 firmly at 5080 performance now lol

[rancid juniper]

I'm legit watching it rn, wish the same could happen to RDNA 3 lol

[acoustic palm]

Do you have a godly binned 9070???

[fresh timber]

now get the game to use E cores

non of my games even touch them

only time they touch it is for like shaders

[upper rain]

you could say that https://www.3dmark.com/spy/55556380

[upper rain]

i'm pretty sure that's intentional behavior with thread director

bc generally you have enough p cores that relying on E cores slows things up a bit

[fresh timber]

yeah alot of games put my e cores to 100%

all 6

[acoustic palm]

idk timespy whats your steel nomad score

[fresh timber]

i feel bad for cpus with out e cores

[upper rain]

but if you made the e cores bigger, improved connectivity across the core clusters, and gave them more cache, i bet you could run ur game threads on the two or four giant P cores and then let ur E cores handle everything else

[upper rain]

tbh idk if i've even run that one

let me check

[fresh timber]

i beat you

nerd

intel is faster than AMD in timespy lol

[acoustic palm]

because timespy is biased towards more cores

[fresh timber]

thats why oc people use 14900ks

[upper rain]

yeah i don't think i have run that one

i can send you port royal but i'm not top score in that one (yet) iirc, so kinda cringe

i was like four points behind iirc lol

oh wtf my port royale didn't submit either

riiiiiigged

[upper rain]

you also have way moar cores than me and i'm clocked at 5ghz vs the like 5.6 that normal Zen 4 does lol

anyway though, i'm at 9070 + 30% performance

[fresh timber]

But your faster

lol

X3d sucksssssss

That means I beat quok too

@acoustic palm poor

[upper rain]

which is already within spitting distance of 5080 performance, so i bet if the improvements scale me up like 5% or so i'd be there

why does TPU insist on not including 9070 and 9070 xt on the same graph in their reviews

ffs

[fresh timber]

Fr

[upper rain]

they do on their nviida reviews it seems

and according to this i'm at 5080 performance anyway? before driver updates? which seems not correct but what do i know

i'm just a guy

[upper rain]

real and true

[fresh timber]

They prob on review drivers

[upper rain]

tbf i don't think that software ever updates so it's basically passive income at this point

[upper rain]

june 17 review, kinda new

[fresh timber]

They maintain the servers

That’s it

[upper rain]

oh wait that was a diff one

this is may 13

lemme find a more recent review

[fresh timber]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/137104694?

[upper rain]

okay i give up

[fresh timber]

did my pc even do much

[upper rain]

sub 3ghz average, plebian

[fresh timber]

listen man

im power limied

i dont have the mod yet

[upper rain]

if only there was a guy in this server who could help you with that

[fresh timber]

honestly

ill prob flash a bettre bios on my 2nd bios

give my self a "oc bios" in reality its just a 400w cards bios

[upper rain]

i didn't know there were higher pl bioses tbh

[fresh timber]

yeah

my card unirocnily is a low end 9070xt

[upper rain]

so is mine but the cooler is goated so whateva

[fresh timber]

same

i got a beefy boy

i could flash this bios and gain a extra 30w of headroom

[upper rain]

30w

[fresh timber]

to be fair

that will prob let me boost higher

and i have a dual bios card

so i can swap

[upper rain]

but tbf if you're going to go to the effort of buying a flashing tool...

surely tape and a piece of metal is not much worse lol

[fresh timber]

with dual bios

hear me out

im not adding nothing and lets be honest, ill be limited by how good i can cool my card

i dont really.. want more perofrmance rn anyways

[fresh timber]

lord fogg

i have a 32GBps link to cpu

so fasttt

[velvet summit]

10 series eol now

https://windowsreport.com/nvidia-confirms-final-driver-support-for-gtx-900-and-1000-series-cards/

[upper rain]

iirc that's what infinity fabric is too but i forgor

2000mhz IF = 32GB/s write 64GB/s read or smth

[upper rain]

got tired of 1080 ti beating their 60 and 50 tier cards smh my head

[fresh timber]

i want a 5050

[lone mango]

Nearly as fast as 8k, I thought about it until I saw the price and literally said what the hell

[fresh timber]

@upper rain is it bad i want a low profile 5050

on thats 1 slot wide

[upper rain]

i think they make 5060's like that too

tbh it's weird there aren't LP 5060 ti's and stuff

you can totally cool one on an LP cooler

[fresh timber]

a siingle slot one too

🔥

[upper rain]

and they only need space for four memory pads so like- should be so easy

[upper rain]

that but it's a 5060 ti 16GB

[fresh timber]

its a single slot wide

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/uk-police-officer-screaming-no-noo-gif-3163377484734570206

To be fair some of these cards are either almost a decade old or already over a decade old

[fresh timber]

im tired

[acoustic palm]

whatd you get

[upper rain]

at uni rn, will run it later lol

[acoustic palm]

damn

[fresh timber]

Stop getting a education

Right quok

[upper rain]

become gamer NEET

[acoustic palm]

My highscore is like

7600

[acoustic palm]

fr

[fresh timber]

What’s your cinebench score quok

[acoustic palm]

no clue

[fresh timber]

Run r23

[acoustic palm]

no

[upper rain]

yes

[proud jackal]

They are surprisingly not that expensive

[upper rain]

ali A die is extremely cheap just sayin

@proud jackal

get a die and clock it to whatever you want at wicked tight timings

[proud jackal]

I'm on a die rn clocked at 28-36-36

[upper rain]

based

[proud jackal]

6000

[upper rain]

neato

why not go higher if i may ask?

[proud jackal]

[upper rain]

meh motherboard?

[proud jackal]

Going for stability

Don't want to deal with high clock instability

[upper rain]

intel moment? shouldn't be an issue on AM5 with a good board

or ARL i suppose, but idk if anybody actually buys ARL

[fresh timber]

Is this a bad deal?

[remote geode]

i love my b580 !!! raah

[upper rain]

soybirds

[upper rain]

i'd pay $30 more for an extra 4GB and FSR 4

so yeah kinda lower mid imo

[fresh timber]

I’m not getting this anymore

[upper rain]

not horrible but definitely worse than extremely available options

[upper rain]

praying for your downfall 🙏

[lone mango]

i have that $100 gift card for 85.. could use that here and then use the $30 on this...

[fresh timber]

Should I stress test Tommrow all day

[fresh timber]

Buy me a gift

[lone mango]

My ram cant go past cl28

[upper rain]

just clock it up instead then ez

[fresh timber]

Buy cudimmmn

[lone mango]

6200? but i have to redo all of my timings

not tryna do that

[upper rain]

if ur on a die just take it to like 7200 or smth with requisite timings

[lone mango]

This is cloud approved

[lone mango]

Either 8000 or nothing

Actually I am curious

[upper rain]

i'd agree if you didn't need a kinda nice board for it

[lone mango]

What would 7200 with really tight timings be like

Could this be the poor mans 8k

[upper rain]

most people (i am most people) just buy the cheapest POS with the right i/o and stuff

[upper rain]

tight 8k will beat it, but if we're talking XMP 8k vs tuned 7200 yeah 7200 honestly probably wins

the DDR4 parallel is tuned 3600 vs XMP 4000, and XMP 4000 gets slaughtered

like even my kinda garbo CJR stuff at tuned 3600 would outperform my XMP 4400 kit

[misty sparrow]

dead space 2023 is good price on sale but denuvo is crazy

[upper rain]

not in raw bandwidth, but most games scale better with latency

[fresh timber]

Is my ram good

Sir foog

[dusk knot]

Humans

[wary fjord]

Opened cpu its a chalked xD will that dmg my mobo if those chalk stuff dried paste just falling down.

@idle nexus

So dry lol dryest ever.. 2 years no repaste

[lone mango]

Might be even longer

My cpu was close to 2 years old but it was still kinda pasty

[wary fjord]

I use the thermal paste free when lt720 arrived

I dont have paste anymore.

I put ptm on it now.. i messed up applying it.. hope when it go liquid state it sort it self out.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yolo-you-only-live-once-bread-gif-16181607

[lone mango]

I wonder what zen 6 will be able to take

7000 gear one?

[upper rain]

send it

[lone mango]

Nobody knows

[upper rain]

we're actually getting a new IOD this time, so hopefully better lol

iirc Zen 5 TR has (a) new IOD compared to the reused Zen 4 one on Zen 5 desktop. so that might be a good place to start for finding what kind of generational gains AMD already got

[lone mango]

Yeah just nobody knows the ram speeds. i guess the other information is more important

We know the imc is different but thats it

And that there might be two of them for better quad channel stability or something like that

I gotta see that again, but there was no mention of speed

[upper rain]

quad channel?

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

oh wait you mean for TR

[lone mango]

yeah people would be able to run 4 sticks and not drop clocks

[upper rain]

oh nvm

yeah i get what you mean then

the infuriating thing is you're technically right it is quad channel... but what you mean is 2dpc, DDR5 is just weird

[lone mango]

Tru...

[upper rain]

im a pedant at heart, sorry

but yah ur right, i hope they make the IMC way better

[lone mango]

We need a high yield video on the io die to see what is different

[upper rain]

tbh a lot of the 2dpc stuff is just boards being kinda mid tho, so idk how much they can fix that with a baller IOD

[upper rain]

real and truepilled

[fresh timber]

ngl

they should bring quad channel back

for ddr5

@upper rain https://lian-li.com/product/o11-air-mini/

im getting this case for Z$50

do i keep for my self or flip

[upper rain]

strix halo is quad channel

[upper rain]

make money, earn dough, get bread

[lone mango]

ok so if i get both of these, thats 260 but the gift cards bring that down to 215, then i can sell the 500 gb separately so thats 180 im down on, then sell my current psu for 110

it been one year since i played the dogshit r6 crap

think ima save some space

Something I do not like much about benchmarking videos is that there are games on there that nobody plays

Nobody playing failguard bruh forget about it

Put helldivers on there

[unreal trail]

[cursive oasis]

How much am I missing out with getting a rtx 5060 vs a rx 9060

[worthy meteor]

~10-15%, more at higher resolutions where you may be vram limited

[acoustic palm]

more than that what

[worthy meteor]

But you shouldn't be using either card for 4k anyways :p

[fresh timber]

how about we buy a b580

[acoustic palm]

the 16gb is 30% better than a 5060

[worthy meteor]

What

At what resolution

[acoustic palm]

1440p im guessing

[worthy meteor]

Source?

[acoustic palm]

tpu

[worthy meteor]

There may be more gains from driver updates but I haven't seen anything for 9060xt yet

[acoustic palm]

also the vram is 💔

[worthy meteor]

65.6 to 70 is not 30%

[worthy meteor]

Oh if you're looking at the relative performance table on the database, that uses data at 4k for modern GPUs, it's very skewed against cards that run out of vram at 4k lol

[acoustic palm]

5060 runs out of vram at 1440p.

just dont get the card

[fresh timber]

and at 1080p

[acoustic palm]

get a used card or a 9060xt

[fresh timber]

it somehow runs out at 1080p

[worthy meteor]

I'd only recommend either of them for 1080p anyways

[fresh timber]

might as well get 1440p cause 1440p displays are cheap

[acoustic palm]

keep in mind 9060xt 8gb is the same price as 5060

the exact same

[lone mango]

Waiting for open box 9060 xt

[acoustic palm]

9060xt 16gb can do 1440p huh

[lone mango]

fr

[fresh timber]

its a 7700xt but with more vram and fsr4

[lone mango]

Yeah then you can uv it and slightly pass it

[worthy meteor]

Can do, I would recommend better whenever possible lol

[acoustic palm]

i want redstone

[worthy meteor]

It's at the baseline for what I'd consider doable for 1440p 2 or 3 years ago

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber make amd release redstone

[lone mango]

Most people still play older and easier to run games, it can def handle 1440p

Im on 1440p with a 6700 xt

[fresh timber]

u have 12gb vram

[lone mango]

This is correct

[worthy meteor]

I was on 1440p with a 3060ti, and I'd rather not recommend people do that now

[fresh timber]

i will play 1440p 240 on my rx6600 right now

and i WILL COMPLAIN

[honest birch]

@fresh timber doesnt care about my builds

💔 🥀

[fresh timber]

:/

[royal crow]

not that i'll buy it any time soon, but in general should i save $10 for open box or go brand new?

dead chat right when i got a question, neat

[wary fjord]

New

[cursive oasis]

I'm not looking for ultra performance, just as long as it can game good at 1080p

[royal crow]

alr

[worthy meteor]

I wouldn't get open box with that little of a price difference

[royal crow]

fair
imma add it to my giftster lmao

[worthy meteor]

It's spending a small amount of money to ensure you don't have headaches with missing accessories or anything like that

[fresh timber]

wd

[acoustic palm]

@rigid sinew my friend responded

[rigid sinew]

what happened