general-chat

[acoustic palm]

nein nein nein

just gimme the tsar bomba

[hoary zodiac]

Actually

I don't think they made shells that large

Nvm

They did

[acoustic palm]

I wouldnt put it past humans to make shells that big

[main loom]

yk whats the crazy thing

i once wanted to go for 5060 ti for 2400$

[acoustic palm]

and this is somehow not just as bad?

[hoary zodiac]

They're just not all that good

[tranquil pebble]

mini Gustav gun shell

[hoary zodiac]

They used massive guns against the Theodosian walls

[main loom]

like a whole build

[tranquil pebble]

Gustav was 80cm

[hoary zodiac]

But it's not about the size

[main loom]

with brands

[hoary zodiac]

It's about how much kaboom you can pack into ot

Or armour penetration if you're trying to get through thick armour

[tranquil pebble]

and size lets you put more charge, but yes a lot of other factors matter too

[hoary zodiac]

So a "modern" 16 inch gun on an Iowa class battleship would outperform a larger gun from say 1453

[tranquil pebble]

shape and design is hella important for AP

[hoary zodiac]

Would massively outrange it too tbh

Also one of the reasons why Dreadnought trolled the seas

[tranquil pebble]

fire rate likely way higher on the modern

[hoary zodiac]

The older designs simply cannot match the range and firepower of Dreadnought

[hoary zodiac]

And they're firing actual uh

Well

"hella kaboom" for HE

[tranquil pebble]

ancient ship vs modern is a one sided blood bath

[hoary zodiac]

And "hella penetration" for AP

[hoary zodiac]

Lmao

The secondary guns would obliterate an entire fleet

[acoustic palm]

@hoary zodiac what if i sell my pc before i go to college and get a matx/itx blackout pc

[tranquil pebble]

like the ancient one may not even be able to penetrate the hull enough to sink a modern ship

[hoary zodiac]

Laptop

[tranquil pebble]

even with a magical sneak attack

[hoary zodiac]

Actually

Actually hmm

Maybe not a laptop

[acoustic palm]

i have a macbook alr

[hoary zodiac]

It won't even be able to get NEAR it

[acoustic palm]

not m series but still really good

[tranquil pebble]

yeah that is why I said a magical sneak attack

[hoary zodiac]

The gun ranges of even the secondary batteries outclasses it

Although

[tranquil pebble]

ancient ship would be dead before even saw the modern one XD

[hoary zodiac]

The problem is resupplying and refueling

Which

Good luck getting coal or oil

Start drilling

[acoustic palm]

but like i wanna do an itx build

i think i can do it

[hoary zodiac]

Do compact matx

More cost effective and more versatile form factor

[tranquil pebble]

can only imagine the carnage an HE shell would do to a wooden ship

[acoustic palm]

isnt that like itx size but matx price?

[hoary zodiac]

It's significantly bigger than the smaller itx cases

But not that much bigger than larger itx

[acoustic palm]

well ill be getting when like 60 series and 10000 series is out so

[hoary zodiac]

On a practicality level standpoint compact matx is more practical

[tranquil pebble]

Macro-ITX when?

[hoary zodiac]

You can account for more

Like gpu size changes

Or new hdd

On average compact matx cases are bigger than the smallest of itx cases

[acoustic palm]

cause i wanna do mechanical engineering and doesnt that need a really good computer

[hoary zodiac]

But against the average itx case

[tranquil pebble]

case I plan to buy can accomadate something like up to 18 HDDs

[hoary zodiac]

It's not that much bigger

[hoary zodiac]

Depends

Really depends

[acoustic palm]

aerospace focus

[hoary zodiac]

A lot of unis have remote software

[acoustic palm]

also i want to game on it and have it be portable so

[hoary zodiac]

Well

Never hurt to be dual purpose

[tranquil pebble]

Well you can absolutely do CAD on weaker systems especially these days

[acoustic palm]

can you do it well though

[hoary zodiac]

Just like the dual purpose secondary batteries on USN and RN ships

Helped a lot in the pacific theater

[tranquil pebble]

I managed to do a little of it on an XP machine in highschool

[hoary zodiac]

Depends

Like

What exactly are you doing

It depends on the software, the complexity of the task

[acoustic palm]

great question

[tranquil pebble]

complexity of the projects involved will dictate what you need

[hoary zodiac]

And a lot of other factors

A decent overall rig will be good

Just get something that's good price/perf

[acoustic palm]

do you guys think am6 will be here in 2027

[tranquil pebble]

obviously a project with 16,523 parts will be harder to run than one with like 7

[hoary zodiac]

Imo I care about the price/$ rather than the platform

[tranquil pebble]

I think AM6 should hold off for DDR6

[hoary zodiac]

If it's not accessible it practically doesn't exist for me

Like the 5090

I still refuse to acknowledge the 5090 as a real product

$3000 gpu should reflect $3000 performance

[tranquil pebble]

Bugatti of consumer video cards

[hoary zodiac]

Not slightly better 4090

[tranquil pebble]

existing only to set records lol

and be hella expensive

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not even talking about the gaming aspect

Even for productivity it's terrible

AI bros got even better hardware to play with so

5090 is even worse in that regard

[tranquil pebble]

ones who can afford it yeah

the real hw is like $10k

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah but at that point you're getting a lot more bang for the buck

You're getting handicapped a lot on consumer hardware

[tranquil pebble]

and yet people still pay the insane GeFarce prices

[hoary zodiac]

We're really past the point where you can use the Nvenc/Cuda cope

Unless you're actually doing this for a living

At which point it makes sense

Because it's an investment

Like

[tranquil pebble]

CUDA is not even magic. It does not make a card faster enough to justify the cost.

[hoary zodiac]

Say for casual video editing

These days I'd unironically take a 9070XT and cope with the longer render times

Or hell

[tranquil pebble]

so yeah unless you need it for work then yeah

[hoary zodiac]

An intel

Like

The price gap is so massive

And on average the performance gain is so crap for the price difference

It's just not worth it unless those nvidia advantages are the main focus

[tranquil pebble]

The whole 50 series is bad value lol

[hoary zodiac]

Like if 90% of the time the gpu is going to be used for an application that scales extremely in favour of blackwell

That is the only scenario that makes sense

[hoary zodiac]

Tbh yeah

40 series exist

[tranquil pebble]

4060M isnt bad for what it is, my laptop has one

[hoary zodiac]

I have a 3070M

It's probably slightly slower than the 4060M right?

Both 8GB vram?

[tranquil pebble]

laptop I got for $180 then put aout $100 into for RAM and SSD

[hoary zodiac]

Tf

$180?

How?

[tranquil pebble]

from a friend who thought it was dead

but later found it was not but already replaced it

[hoary zodiac]

I would've taken that in 2022 when I sold my pc

Wtf

My laptop was actually pretty cheap for the time

It was used

[acoustic palm]

keep in mind 9070xt headroom for oc is crazy high and it beats 5070ti

[hoary zodiac]

Don't know how since the laptop model was still really new for the time

[hoary zodiac]

Well here's the thing

I'm applying nvidia bias

[tranquil pebble]

so yeah, less than $400 got me a laptop with 48 GB DDR5, i7 13620H, 2.5 TB SSD space, and 4060M.

[hoary zodiac]

And the value argument is still crap

That says a lot when I'm going out of my way to make nvidia look less...

Obscene

And it's still garbage value

[tranquil pebble]

now you know how the more reasonable Apple fans feel

[hoary zodiac]

Real

I actually really like Apple for prosumer uses

I really wanna get an M4 macbook

To test its compute performance

[tranquil pebble]

i hear those are good for battery life

[hoary zodiac]

Apple is great prosumer product but terrible consumer product

The consumer side is just overpriced crap

[tranquil pebble]

the base iPad seems ok

but otherwise yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah tbh the iPads are pretty decent

[tranquil pebble]

iPhone prices are obscene

[hoary zodiac]

Apple pencil is pretty good from what I've heard too

Great displays as well

[hoary zodiac]

Oh they know exactly what they're doing

[tranquil pebble]

this is one thing that if Apple starts failing in it will be over lol

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[tranquil pebble]

They need their products to be pretty. lol

[hoary zodiac]

I'd honestly take an iPad as a drawing tablet

The displays and apple pencil make a pretty compelling argument

[tranquil pebble]

still cheaper than some of the Wacom crap

[hoary zodiac]

As a multipurpose device

That's actually pretty good

[tranquil pebble]

istg Wacom went even harder on selling for the name than Apple did

[hoary zodiac]

Apple is marketing for mass appeal

Wacom has a niche market and kind of a monopoly

Not really because

China

Lord Thermaltake does not allow low tech devices to be overpriced

[tranquil pebble]

I put a PA 120SE on an x3d and it is glorious

[hoary zodiac]

The power of Chinese manufacturers spells doom for these kind of products

[hoary zodiac]

Based

Thermaltake is competing with themselves at this point

Which is the funniest part

[tranquil pebble]

the cooler is rated for way higher TDP than an x3D can do anyways

[hoary zodiac]

They've beaten every one of their consumers except for Noctua

Noctua had an actual niche so

[tranquil pebble]

Noctua strikes me as the Apple of PC cooling

[hoary zodiac]

They can survive unlike literally everyone else

[hoary zodiac]

Noctua going all in on acoustics + performance is honestly a great move in hindsight

Sets them apart from consumers

[tranquil pebble]

Thermaltake or Thermalright?

[hoary zodiac]

Because thermaltake just came in and steamrolled everyone in the market with low cost units

[nocturne flicker]

That is Thermalright.

[hoary zodiac]

Thermalright yeah

Mb

12am moment

[tranquil pebble]

You got the Thermalwrong lol

[nocturne flicker]

Will thermals take Thermalright to more than alright? More at 10

[hoary zodiac]

Thermalwong

(I'm Chinese I'm allowed to make this joke)

[tranquil pebble]

next step is going to the 120 SE with kryosheet

[hoary zodiac]

See

I'm a RK120SE enjoyer

Extra ram clearance

But that's not the main reason

Literally the cheapest cooler on the market

Thermalright does it again

Outcompeted themselves

[tranquil pebble]

I paid about that for my PA

[hoary zodiac]

This is actually stupid they're closing the gap with the single towers now

[hoary zodiac]

Wait really?

Hmm

Inflation?

[tranquil pebble]

no it was within a year or so

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

Maybe the price hike is because of model recognition

RK120 is relatively unknown for now

Tbh half of thermalrights' coolers are unknown

Purely because they make so many of them

And doesn't market them

The products market themselves tbh

[hoary zodiac]

Meritocracy

[tranquil pebble]

1000% worth it

[hoary zodiac]

Confuciussm at it's finest

[hoary zodiac]

The funny thing is I'm microing $4

While if you look at the macro market

The more expensive thermalrights still blow the competition out of the water

[tranquil pebble]

this cooler taught me how to clip fans on to a heatsink lol

[hoary zodiac]

I remember paying the same price for a single tower back in '19

[tranquil pebble]

PA120SE is cheaper than the cooler I bought in 2008

[hoary zodiac]

Do you remember the Macho Rev B

[tranquil pebble]

even without accounting inflation

[hoary zodiac]

It was like the original PA120

[tranquil pebble]

with inflation accounted, it is a blood bath

[hoary zodiac]

$50 cooler

Actually came pretty close to a NF-D15

At least... For the time ofc

Nowadays the PA120 is way better

Both in performance and price/perf

At the time it was pretty good tho

Tho Thermalrights was a very unknown brand back then

I just saw it as the "WTF? $50 NH-D15?$ cooler

[tranquil pebble]

my 2008/9 cooler was like

[hoary zodiac]

So imagine my surprise

When several years later

Thermalrights does the same schtick again but this time they steamroll the entire air cooling market

I wonder why the Macho wasn't more popular back in the day

It doesn't hold a candle to the PA120

But back in the day it was pretty good in price/$

[tranquil pebble]

this went so hard late 00s

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/Nn34k02IPlk

[hoary zodiac]

Holy shit

Hyper threaded quad core

Unironically that overclocked would've lasted a decade

[tranquil pebble]

I OCd it to 4.00 GHz on air cooling,

no overvoltage either

even with locked multiplier

You can imagine how speedy Vista was on that

also had 1 TB HDD, and 1 GB GDDR5 Radeon HD 4890

[hoary zodiac]

That would've been good even in 2020 tbh

[tranquil pebble]

This was at a time where Radeon got the jump on Geforce for memory bandwidth

[hoary zodiac]

As a mid ranger

Pushing it but still

Ehh

2018 more reasonable

[tranquil pebble]

yeah so imagine how it did with games of the era

[hoary zodiac]

Especially with the single threaded perf

Wouldn't have to buy a new cpu until coffee lake

Great investment

[tranquil pebble]

it ran XP Pro x64 and Vista dual booted

[hoary zodiac]

Is that when RX 2900 XT or something

HD*

ATI Ruby still a thing?

[tranquil pebble]

HD 4800 series was first to GDDR5

[hoary zodiac]

I think I have a 4850

I have this thing lying around at home

I have a bunch of old crap in general

9500 GT

And I think something else I forgot about

And then jump to HD 7850

I wasn't even around in the PC space

Around most of the prime time of the gpus I own

Which is funny really

Although

I was rocking a Q9400 + HD 7850 rig in 2017

Funniest thing ever because it's terrible value relative to sandy/ivy bridge

But I thought it was cheap and I didn't fully realize that perf/$ was a thing back then

[hoary zodiac]

It was actually a lot more capable then it had any right to be

Heavily bottlenecked the cpu and DDR2

Still ran ghost recon wildlands at 25-40fps

Console experience

Which is actually pretty good considering that it is a literal pile of crap by today's standard

[dusk knot]

Gamers

[tranquil pebble]

[nocturne flicker]

Engineer gaming

[frosty sinew]

alright

ive narrowed the laptop search down

its between the lenovo pro 5 or pro 5i

[proud jackal]

[main loom]

guys

5070 or 5070 ti

350$ diff

[frosty sinew]

350$ seems like a lot

[frosty sinew]

i think im going with the intel one

its faster single threaded

[sinful blade]

Neither

[frosty sinew]

but as long as theyve resolved their "issues" with 13 and 14 gen

then its fine

[sinful blade]

Get a 9070xt

[frosty sinew]

https://www.costco.ca/lenovo-legion-5-gaming-laptop-160-in-intel-core-ultra-9-275hx-32gb-ram-1tb-ssd-8gb-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060.product.4000379404.html

this

2200 cad

275hx and 5060 with 32gb ram

[rigid sinew]

good morning everyone

[frosty sinew]

morning

[obsidian quest]

Is this used PC worth $1100 CAD?

I5 14400f 10 cores 16 threads
RTX 4060ti
32gb corsair ram
1tb nvme ssd
Liquid cooling
z980 motherboard

[sinful blade]

Good morning naht

[sinful blade]

Yes

[frosty sinew]

11... thousand?

[obsidian quest]

$1100*

[frosty sinew]

yes

[sinful blade]

Didn’t we talk about this last night

[obsidian quest]

Yeah a few ppl told me it’s overpriced

[idle nexus]

that motherboard doesn't uh... should be Z690 or Z790 anyway

[main loom]

guys stop loving 9070 fr just tell me whats better
5070 or 5070 ti at 350$ diff

[sinful blade]

Why

[frosty sinew]

so battery life on legion pro 5s seem pretty midrange

3-6 hrs

[sinful blade]

5070, but it’s not really a good deal
A 9070xt will be much better at that price range

[main loom]

i love nvidia more

[idle nexus]

any other options but 4060ti? is it 8gb or 16gb? cuz that's a major difference

[main loom]

and it looks nicer

[obsidian quest]

I think it’s 8gb

[proud jackal]

No you

[main loom]

but i see like 30% 5070 ti is better than normal one

so 350$ not worth it ?

[sinful blade]

It’s not

And no

[main loom]

also 5070 comes at 12 gb

[idle nexus]

well, depending on games you play, et. al., 8gb is probably enough but it's already getting to where it's too little so think about how that'll be in 3-4 years

[obsidian quest]

For the games I’m playing it’s fine I’m just wondering is it worth the money or could I get something better for the same price

[idle nexus]

or in plain English: try to avoid 8gb graphics cards

[main loom]

so is it better to have 5070 and then sell it and upgrade to something like 5080 super when prices are cool ?

[idle nexus]

I'd think so. If I had to guess, the resale value alone will be much better because 8gb cards are getting to be too little

[main loom]

you are genius

[idle nexus]

paraphrasing hardware unboxed, "an 8gb GPU in 2025 should cost less than $200"

skip to like 13:16 for, "8gb bad" rant lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsSUPuvHI4

[idle nexus]

lol thanks but I'm merely a parrot

[atomic current]

They should be 120

Gib GPU for cheap

[sinful blade]

Automod what is going on with you

[idle nexus]

if you can find a way to do 12gb or 16gb, you'll likely be in a much better position in a few years. New consoles should drop soon & they set the tone for developing games

[sinful blade]

@main loom I can’t tell what you said to get muted, so I can’t unmute you yet

Unmuted, ty for explaining

[main loom]

thank you

anyways i checked the prices again im wrong between 5070 and 5070 ti both are msi gaming trio
are 290$

[sinful blade]

I really gotta fix automod’s logs
Being a pain in the ass

[main loom]

785$ vs 1075$

[idle nexus]

if I'm understanding correctly, even Nintendo Switch 2 has 12gb of VRAM (ya unified memory but effectively the same thing for comparison to PC) & Nintendo usually has the most mediocre hardware of Xbox, PlayStation, & Nintendo

[main loom]

12 gb vs 16

[sinful blade]

At that point, it’s not even worth going nvidia

[main loom]

so you really think guys i can enjoy it with 2k and stuff for 2 years ?

[sinful blade]

9070xt’s are like $700

[main loom]

i really want nvidia

im being dumb

[sinful blade]

Lay out your argument why

Fsr4 exists on the 9070xt so 4k60fps is much easier achieved with frame gen

[main loom]

i mean because i really like nvidia more with the stuff and trust it more and i like the msi gaming trio version

and most of 9070 are expensive localy too

and witthout some cool looking brands

[frigid stag]

How is that dumb

5070 ti is faster

[main loom]

so im just now stuck in 785$ for 5070 VS 1075$ MSI GAMING TRIO VERSIONS BOTH
AND 12 GB VS 16 GB

[sinful blade]

It’s not $290 faster

[main loom]

well i know that 9070 is more worthy and stuff

[sinful blade]

Just stick with the 5070 at that point

Or a 4080 super

[idle nexus]

9070XT is a really good product. FSR4 is--from my understanding--on par with DLSS & AMD is now pretty caught up in raytracing performance. Nvidia's drivers have been plagued with issues since like January... MSRP to MSRP, AMD is the better option but ig that's debatable since 9070XT at MSRP is a unicorn

[frigid stag]

I wouldn’t get either of those

They’re all overpriced bs

[main loom]

i heard 5070 ti is the same as 5080 with oc so would 5070 have good oc ?

[frigid stag]

The ti is a lot faster than the non ti

[sinful blade]

@main loom are you US based

[main loom]

nope

[idle nexus]

if you just have to get nvidia, you'd be wise to wait a few months cuz supposedly the Supers are coming

[sinful blade]

Just go 5090 ez

[idle nexus]

ehh... also iirc (if rumors are true) the 5070 should be biggest uplift of all Super series cards too. I gotta check that tho but supposedly 5070ti & 5080 Supers should have 24gb VRAM like 4090

[sinful blade]

What country

[main loom]

so maybe 5070 is more worthy since a 280$ diff than 5070 ti , and i do 2k only and im more into esports and enjoying games with high fps

so maybe yeah waiting untill prices drop

then sell my 5070

and get 5080 super

[main loom]

saudi arabia

[sinful blade]

Oh if you’re into esports, no reason to get a 16GB atm

[frosty sinew]

so to confirm the intel cpu shenanigans arent present on the 275hx?

[main loom]

i mean i do games also but at 2k

[sinful blade]

Just go with 5070

[main loom]

not planning for any 4k soon

[idle nexus]

5070 Super rumored to be 18gb VRAM btw

[main loom]

u mean 5080 ?

[frosty sinew]

https://www.costco.ca/lenovo-legion-5-gaming-laptop-160-in-intel-core-ultra-9-275hx-32gb-ram-1tb-ssd-8gb-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060.product.4000379404.html because i think im gonna go with this laptop

[sinful blade]

18gb vram isn’t something we’ve seen before is it?

[idle nexus]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-super-reportedly-features-6400-cuda-cores-and-18gb-memory

[main loom]

oh

[frosty sinew]

curious how the layout would work

9 2gb?

[main loom]

so i guess yeah 5070 more worth it

[frosty sinew]

or 18 1gb

[idle nexus]

3gb chips iirc

[frosty sinew]

not exactly a nice number

oh wack

[sinful blade]

Thats just weird

[frosty sinew]

now time to buy new storage and cpu

[sinful blade]

A60 time

[frosty sinew]

cant have my laptop being faster than my dsesktop 😭

[idle nexus]

you could get an RTX5050 & put it in a garbage can? lol

[frosty sinew]

unacceptable

[sinful blade]

That 5090DD hurts to see

[obsidian quest]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JwBTTM

is this a good build

[idle nexus]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-astral-and-galax-hof-rtx-5090-gpus-push-past-47k-points-in-3dmark-port-royal

https://tenor.com/view/jizz-cum-in-pants-gif-21342476

[sinful blade]

Switch the PSU to a refurb from corsairs’ refurbished online store and yeah

[idle nexus]

lol wow

HOF 5090 XOC BIOS doubled my 4090's

2kw PL

[sinful blade]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/c/certified-refurbished/refurb-computer-power-supplies

@obsidian quest

[sinful blade]

My 1660S barely draws even a quarter of that

[main loom]

@sinful blade honestly man thank you alot i saw the diff between 5070 and ti its like more 10 fps

i have saved some money now

and would do the right thing

thank you alot

[sinful blade]

🫡

[idle nexus]

I wish Galax sold in the US more so maybe prices would go down lol

[misty sparrow]

are they gonna drop the 5070 price slightly or?

since the 5070super is coming out

[dusk knot]

Hhmm

[idle nexus]

tbh I dunno but iirc for 40 series, the non-Supers just kinda stopped existing

[misty sparrow]

they kept the 4070 around

[idle nexus]

damn I gotta be honest, this is some really nice looking garbage

[misty sparrow]

dont really see cards like it

[idle nexus]

ig a 5050 does need to have some redeeming quality lol

[sinful blade]

I wanted the master chief lookin gpu from a while ago

[sinful blade]

Minimalist styling

[idle nexus]

this is a cool 4090

a little too anime for my taste generally but I like the green lol

I don't remember the master chief one tbh

[sinful blade]

It was a MANLI one

https://videocardz.com/newz/this-geforce-rtx-4090-has-a-built-in-spirit-level

[main loom]

@sinful blade last question i really love the psu of asus gold aura i like how it looks and the straps they provide for the cables but it priced at 270$ while i can get seasonic for 175$

what you say ?

[idle nexus]

oh not this

isn't that the something tank?

[main loom]

is seasonic a good brand

[idle nexus]

yes

[main loom]

orr should i even go with asus one

at 275$

[idle nexus]

Asus PSUs seem overpriced

[sinful blade]

Why not use Corsair with custom cables?

Refurb*

[main loom]

i dont think that i will find good refurb ones

[misty sparrow]

The actual Master Chief card does look pretty good though

[main loom]

but i really like the straps and the look of asus aura

[sinful blade]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/c/certified-refurbished/refurb-computer-power-supplies

[misty sparrow]

i thought about the doom dark ages one

[main loom]

when actually i will not be able to see it

[idle nexus]

heck ig they stopped updating this https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[main loom]

seasonic or corsair or which brand better ?

[sinful blade]

Corsair is usually in A tier with most of their psus

[idle nexus]

they should do something like this again but exclude Disney somehow... nvm ig that won't work nvm

I've never owned a Corsair PSU but heard good things

I usually get Thermaltake or EVGA

I haven't bought a PSU in awhile

[worthy meteor]

Corsair doesn't make most of their own units, their lower end units can still be pretty bad, Seasonic also doesn't make some of their own crappy lower end units like s12iii

[misty sparrow]

Starfield GPU was pretty good too

too bad the game sucked

[idle nexus]

looks nice

too bad the game sucked

lmao

beat me

[misty sparrow]

shared braincells

[main loom]

i heard seasonic is doing asus psu`s

[misty sparrow]

Then again I did try running the game on a 1060 6GB

i think that was below minimum spec

[idle nexus]

I ran it on 12900K/3080ti & it ran alright

[misty sparrow]

but the game was so boring i didn't even want to keep playing

[idle nexus]

the crappy engine & poor optimizations were only the icing on the cake of a game that did way too little with way too much

29308490280 planets

& like 95% are copy & paste

[misty sparrow]

I don't know why Bethesda is still messing around with the Creation Engine

to be fair, for the planet thing it's a given there will be some planets that will have nothing in them

but for the ones that had people in them, they recycled the same dungeons or something

[idle nexus]

HOF without white PCB just isn't the same

[idle nexus]

ya like identical

just delete those planets

don't waste my time lol

[misty sparrow]

all they had to do was copy mass effect and no mans sky

[idle nexus]

I had fun with that game with modding for shipbuilding

M-Class ships ftw

[misty sparrow]

Your wife stole some of your clothes

[idle nexus]

lol wym blue is a color

[sinful blade]

I only own blue, gray, and black lmao

I don’t own a single thing of shorts

There were unmentionables in that picture

[misty sparrow]

good thing i didnt see the unmentionables

but anyway, if you know yourself you only own blue, gray, and black maybe she's on to something, unless for the blues they aren't really dark blues

[sinful blade]

It’s just blue, dark blue, gray, and black

[misty sparrow]

no light blues?

[main loom]

@sinful blade whats the deal with 5060 ti

16 gb

[misty sparrow]

sometimes blue can be so dark it looks like black, and its a bit hard to tell the difference between navy and black

[main loom]

its again 10 frames diff

between it and 5070

[idle nexus]

lol I found my best ship I built in Starfield

[sinful blade]

If it’s cheaper for you, go ahead
Entirely up to you

[main loom]

i can even do 5070 ti or 5070 or even 5080 if im not being a dumb choosing 500$ and a 500$ mb

i choose r7 9800x3d and msi x870e carbon wifi

thats alone is 1000$

[idle nexus]

size comparison

[misty sparrow]

oh i didnt even get to the part where you could build ships

crazy huge

[idle nexus]

that was the best part tbh

[misty sparrow]

yeah the whole space exploration thing was lost on me because you could just fast travel to planets with no exploration needed

not like NMS where you can warp drive there

[idle nexus]

ya but occasionally you'd find other ships & stuff flying around

I mean the whole game felt incomplete

remember when it was cool to build your own keyboard? jthat always seemed so unecessarily expensive to me I dunno

[misty sparrow]

i always just bought premade keyboards because the base was always so pricey

[idle nexus]

ya it was nuts

cool thing to do but some keycaps & stuff were like hundreds of dollars

[misty sparrow]

especially those specialty keycaps

i thought about that nvidia keycap that looked like a 3080

had a fan you could spin

[idle nexus]

lol necessary

I got these caps

[misty sparrow]

looks good

[idle nexus]

and these

not really sure what I'll do with them lol

[frosty sinew]

do i just send it with the 4tb

[sinful blade]

I want the 4090 enter key

But idk if I can remove my keys

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xrkWGX/razer-ornata-v3-x-rgb-wired-gaming-keyboard-rz03-04470200-r3u1

[frigid stag]

Probably not

Cause it’s not mechanical

[idle nexus]

you might be able to

no idea if it'll go back on tho lol

[frosty sinew]

ok ive decided on the 4tb

[idle nexus]

ya it's worth it imo

I always regret not getting like more than 2tb at a time for whatever reason lol

[frosty sinew]

esp with only the 2 slots

ive got 1 card

so i can do 3

[frosty sinew]

yeah i did that with 1tb

e f and g are hard drives

[lofty jolt]

I have the same thing except all of my partitions are actual drives and they're all SSD's (990 pro m.2 SSD drives and 870 QVO 2.5 inch SATA 6 SSD drives)

[frosty sinew]

so are mine

all induvidual drives

[lofty jolt]

Nice

The prices for these 870 QVO's are insane rn tbh

[frosty sinew]

maybe i go all solid state lol

[lofty jolt]

18k hours on a HDD is wild lol

[worn wave]

Good, it's a terrible drive

[frosty sinew]

why

[worn wave]

Sata with shitty QLC and no dram

[lofty jolt]

How lol, i've had zero issues with them and had most of them for 3 years now

[lofty jolt]

There's nothing wrong with SATA 6 drives for everyday use

[worn wave]

QVO? Or Evo?

EVO drives are great

[frosty sinew]

it literally costs more than the nvme 4tb lol

300 for tb vs 269

[worn wave]

Hence why I also said shitty QLC and no dram

[lofty jolt]

Bc its m.2's vs bulk SATA 6 ssd's lol

[worn wave]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/samsung-870-qvo-1-tb/14.html

[lofty jolt]

Thats like comparing a non m.2 ssd to a HDD and saying a HDD is bad bc of the price lol

[lofty jolt]

OHHH you're one of those... throwing links is a instant block..

[frosty sinew]

the hdds are cheaper

lol

[worn wave]

Bro cannot accept that the qvo is a bad drive

[lofty jolt]

Yeah

so

[frosty sinew]

im saying the fact that the smaller and faster drive is cheaper than the big and slow one is dumb

[lofty jolt]

So are SATA 6 drives compared to M.2's with the same storage amount..

[worn wave]

You can literally get an sn850x 8tb for $600 LMAO

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8c9wrH/western-digital-wd_black-sn850x-wheatsink-8-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds800t2xhe

[lofty jolt]

Literally not the same drive (from the same company)

[sullen breach]

Hello all.

[frosty sinew]

when did i say it was

[sullen breach]

Is anyone available to assist me with HP Omen gaming laptop issue I am having?

[worn wave]

I hope you aren't giving your PC build customers QVOs

[worn wave]

!ask

[boreal copper]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[sullen breach]

Thank you Steviejoe

All right. I have a 2021 HP Omen 15z-en100 gaming laptop. A few months ago the left side USB-A port failed. The Flex I/O connecter board #1 (I believe that this the designation for the board) has two ports: one is the USB-A SuperSpeed 3.2 Gen 1, 5Gpbs port, and the other is an HDMI port.

[worn wave]

crazy how people can amass this much of a following with so little brain

[sullen breach]

Since the HDMI port is still functioning, I believe it may be just the USB-A port itself and not the board or ribbon

[lofty jolt]

Literally consumer prices are NOT the same as whole sale.. 8tb 870 QVO SATA drives are $550 and 8tb 990 PRO m.2 drives are $585... I've been in business for 8+ years..

[sullen breach]

Would it be feasible to just replace the port without purchasing a new board or ribbon?

[worn wave]

I thought you blocked me hmm?
Also, $35 more ($4.5/tbh) for a top tier nvme vs a bottom tier sata is a no brainier

[lofty jolt]

Toxic af reported to mod..

[worn wave]

I would imagine the ports are soldered to the board. USB-A isn't too complex so you might be able to do it?

[worn wave]

bros malding that he scams rips off his customers

[frosty sinew]

What is happening rn lmao

[worn wave]

Dude is trying to justify the QVO to save a few bucks when nvme options are miles better

[sullen breach]

You're right Steviejoe. They are soldered to the board. I have been having difficulty finding the board and ribbon for my laptop, so I think the port would be the best option to save money. However, I have never worked on a laptop in that degree before. Just general maintenance, such as cleaning, replacing a battery or installing storage.

[frosty sinew]

i just asked abt ssd 😭

[frosty sinew]

you could try a repair shop

anyone with decent soldering skills could bang that out

[sullen breach]

Here's the problem.

[worn wave]

Yeah same, ive not done much soldering let alone on a laptop board

[frosty sinew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sullen breach]

I moved away from the States back in 2016. I wouldn't trust the techs here to do a good job.

Where I live curently, in Ecuador, South America.

[frosty sinew]

ohhhh

i mean

buy an iron

and try?

can i get a photo

[sullen breach]

I can't take the risk of destroying my laptop because of my inexperience. This rig cost over $2k.

[fresh timber]

should have bought a better laptop then

user error

[sullen breach]

It's just a port.

This laptop has been a workhorse

[frosty sinew]

i mean the laptop port is broken alreadt

[worn wave]

I think it's close to other IO that he doesn't want to break

[sullen breach]

The port failed. However, the HDMI port is still functioning.

[frosty sinew]

i mean yeah

[sullen breach]

I believe the HDMI port and the USB-A port are on the same board.

So, more than likely it's just the port itself.

[frosty sinew]

take a look inside the usb port

pins prob damaged

[sullen breach]

Possibly. I may have done it unknowingly.

[fresh timber]

Just go to a repair shop

Ez

[sullen breach]

Vex, I moved away from the States back in 2016 to Ecuador, South America. I wouldn't trust the techs here with this type of laptop.

[fresh timber]

Why not

Find a reputable place

Google reviews

[sullen breach]

Thta's the problem. Not many are.

Even though they say they are, they hare not.

are*

[frosty sinew]

well idk what to tell you thne

either mail it to a tech in the us or deal with it 🤷‍♂️

[sullen breach]

The easiest thing to do would be to replace the entire board and ribbon. It's just detaching the original ribbon and removing the screw for the board. Then, attach the new ribbon and screw in the new board.

[frosty sinew]

then find one ig?

[sullen breach]

I'm having diffuclty finding the parts and I was wondering if any of you have any suggestions of a good website to find the parts. That's if they are even available anymore.

I usually go to Newegg, but they don't have them.

I tried a few other sites and no luck.

[frosty sinew]

wait which board

this what it looks like?

[sullen breach]

The Flex I/O connecter board #1

Yes, that's it

[frosty sinew]

circle it on the ss please

top left?

[sullen breach]

top right

[frosty sinew]

this?

[sullen breach]

Yes

[frosty sinew]

that aint a breakout board

thats the main pcb

also that took me about 3 seconds

[sullen breach]

That is two USB-A ports. I need one with one usb-A port and one HDMI port. Hold on, I'll circle the location of the USB-A port.

[frosty sinew]

i know

but that area is the main board

only way to fix that is a new mainboard or just swap the port

[lone mango]

[sullen breach]

I can't post pictures.

[main loom]

Corsair RM1000e - 1000w 80 Gold Fully Modular PCie 5 or seasonic 1000 watts

[sullen breach]

It's the port closest to the Ethernet cable port.

[frosty sinew]

i know what your talking abt

thats the main board

not a breakout board

[sullen breach]

Oh..hell.

You're right.

[sinful blade]

The sound of depression hitting

[frosty sinew]

im always right

jk

50% of the time im 80% correct

[sullen breach]

Well, then it's just the port itself I have to replace.

[frosty sinew]

yep

so either just leave it or learn a new skill

[sullen breach]

Which involves soldering.

Okay. You're right. However, could you please recommend a good website to get that port? It's going to be a SuperSpeed 3.2 Gen-1, 5Gbps port.

Someone needs to create a snap on and snap off port. That would make it much easier.

[frosty sinew]

cough cough framework

lol

[sullen breach]

lol

Awesome, do you know of a good website to purchase that port?

[frosty sinew]

aliexpress tbh

[sullen breach]

Hmm. Okay, my friend sent me this website. I looked at the customer reviews and it didn't seem so good. However, I could use your opinion. Here's the link: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/linkplex/LUB-3005-BE-001-J-29/21318777?gad_campaignid=17336967819

[frosty sinew]

oh digikey works great

didnt knwo they shipped there

[sullen breach]

They don't. I'll need to send it to a courier and the courier will bring it to me. Another good friend. So, I will not be charged for shipping.

So, that part will work fine. Correct?

[frosty sinew]

doesnt look like it

if you look at the pic

[sullen breach]

?

[frosty sinew]

its a middle mount

[sullen breach]

And I need which mount?

Sorry guys. As you can tell, I'm pretty green.

[sullen breach]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carrell-unamused-meh-gif-5167530

Okay, what would I need to input into the search bar for the mount?

4 prong?

[frosty sinew]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cnc-tech/1003-002-01100/3466938
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cnc-tech/1003-002-01100-TR/11312486
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/linkplex/LUB-3006D-BE-007-J-29/21318771

like 75% sure its one of these

but youd have to open it up and check

[sullen breach]

Thank you Awesome. Let me check those links.

[fresh timber]

heyyyyyy

[sullen breach]

Awesome, I believe it may be this one: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cnc-tech/1003-002-01100/3466938

[frosty sinew]

@worn wave is sata storage without nand even worth buying?

[frosty sinew]

looks right from the top

[worn wave]

Sata ssds can be ok at the right price point

[tranquil pebble]

if you mean HDDs... yes it can be

[frosty sinew]

no ssds

i wanna replace some of my hdds with ssds

[worn wave]

I think nand is literally what a ssd is

[tranquil pebble]

What do you mean without nand then?

[worn wave]

Nand flash chips are the storage medium

[frosty sinew]

but like its 25$ more than cashc

[sullen breach]

I have 5 ssds

[frosty sinew]

sorry the cache

[worn wave]

Dram

[frosty sinew]

yeah

my bad lol

[worn wave]

For sata ssds you ideally want dram

[tranquil pebble]

Even HDDs have cache too btw

[sullen breach]

Brb Awesome

[worn wave]

Nvme ssds don't need dram as badly

[tranquil pebble]

My NVMe has about 4 GB DRAM IIRC

and a 5 core controller

[frosty sinew]

its a pretty substantial difference

[worn wave]

If you have m.2 slots on your mobo I would get an nvme drive

[tranquil pebble]

it will come down to if you value $ per GB or performance more

[worn wave]

Prices have fallen a lot the past few years

[frosty sinew]

yeah i am but i wanna replace some of my sata hdds with sata ssds

[tranquil pebble]

I put two NVMe drives in my laptop

[frosty sinew]

if thats all it affects than thats fine

[tranquil pebble]

There are other factors to look at for SSDs too though

Reliability of the controller in particular

[frigid stag]

I should try put an nvme in my z87

[tranquil pebble]

but that should be a non-issue on the good brands for the most part

[frosty sinew]

yeah i dont buy anything other than wd samsung crucial or seagate

[tranquil pebble]

MSI drives seem good too

[frigid stag]

Well ye those are the main ones

[worn wave]

Bx500 is low tier. But if you're not running your OS off of it it might be fine
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-bx500-ssd,5377.html

[frosty sinew]

that actually seems good

[tranquil pebble]

but do not buy some random noname SSD

[frigid stag]

Dramless sata yikes

[worn wave]

$100/tbh is pretty expensive

[frosty sinew]

thats cad

[frigid stag]

What happened to mx500

[frosty sinew]

73 usd

[worn wave]

Ok

Still not amazing when you can get nvme ssds for like $50/tb

[frosty sinew]

crucial bx500 is 2tb for 163 tho compared to 200

[frosty sinew]

where lol

[tranquil pebble]

I paid about that for my absurdly fast MSI drive. Rated at like 7000 MB/s and 1,000,000 IOPS

[frosty sinew]

trusting second hand storage?

[tranquil pebble]

drive brutally killed load times lol

[frosty sinew]

wait what the hell why are nvmes cheaper than sata

[proud jackal]

[worn wave]

SSDs do wear but it's typically 1) very slow and 2) easy to monitor via software

[tranquil pebble]

only if enterprise. I would not trust used consumer drives

[proud jackal]

Less materials

[frosty sinew]

40$ less materials?

[proud jackal]

Idk

[tranquil pebble]

enterprise is what you want for mission critical servers tbh

[frosty sinew]

they arent rlly cheaper

[tranquil pebble]

for gaming, its overkill as hell

I am likely going to get a 20 TB enterprise HDD tbh for archival of things

[tranquil pebble]

Archival... one area where SSDs can not replace HDDs yet

I might separate OS install and other stuff across two SSDs since my laptop allows for that

You can have one unpowered for 10 years and come back to good data still being there. Do that with an SSD, and good luck lol

[fresh timber]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-arc-b580-limited-edition-graphics-card-12gb-air-cooler/p/N82E16814883006

msrp b580

[tranquil pebble]

yeah dont leave those unpowered for too many months

might still be fine but you are overdue to refresh them

3 to 5 years is the limit according to google so solid chance this reminder saved some data

[honest birch]

Doing another build

[dusk knot]

Specs?

[obsidian quest]

Is this used pc a good deal for $1,050 CAD?

I5 14400 F 10 cores 16 threads
RTX 4060 ti 16gb
32gb corsair ddr4 ram
1tb nvme ssd
liquid cooling
motherboard z790 wifi

[frosty sinew]

Decent

[fresh timber]

bed

@dusk knot want my pc

its too big

[lone mango]

Damn it went down?

[fresh timber]

hey

cloud

[lone mango]

Get it

[fresh timber]

get it?

[obsidian quest]

Yeah he accepted $1,050

[fresh timber]

okay

i want

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

i want a new motherboard

[lone mango]

Goes hard

[fresh timber]

i want a motherboard that will let me run dual gpu

lolll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftlVcrJpLMw

linus son is as tall as linus

lmfao

[lone mango]

Typical atx board

[fresh timber]

wait he might be taller

whos taller

i returned this

legion go is ass

[lone mango]

Linus is a little bit taller

[fresh timber]

trash performance

[fresh timber]

and his son is like what? 13?? 14?

[lone mango]

Smth like that idk

[fresh timber]

yeah

hes a younger gent

[lone mango]

Dont really watch ltt like that

[fresh timber]

same

his family life is pretty private

[lone mango]

True and I like that

[fresh timber]

yeah, other youtubers.. you know everything

[lone mango]

Good on him for doing that

[fresh timber]

he shouldnt get the legion go

[frigid stag]

Oh nice 🙏

[fresh timber]

legion go is loud, heavy, display is too good for the gpu

legion go has a 1440p 8 inch display and can balrey run that

[lone mango]

Jay keeps things private too unless its something big with his health

Yall remember tech of tomorrow?

[fresh timber]

who

[lone mango]

He had major health issues

[fresh timber]

ufd tech family has worst ngl

[lone mango]

And his channel kept declining

[fresh timber]

if i had to get a handheld today id prob get the xbox ally x

[lone mango]

I don’t think he uploads anymore

[fresh timber]

give me a ally x and a battery bank

when i get my laptop its going to be my main portable gaming machine

[rancid juniper]

lol wut?

[remote geode]

is this cp2077

[main loom]

Is there a better motherboard than this

Look how much ports it have

[remote geode]

I don't think this is a card

[dusk knot]

For free. Sure

[main loom]

Mb

[main loom]

Its not anymore

[remote geode]

looks pretty good tho

[rancid juniper]

yes

[remote geode]

post or pre pl

[rancid juniper]

IO heaven

[rancid juniper]

post

[remote geode]

i hate pl !!! raaah

[main loom]

I sacrifice 5080 and went for 5070 for it

[remote geode]

i really don't like the move that they did when they did the level scaling

[main loom]

This mb is at 500$

[royal crow]

Thx to @worn wave for the reco

[rancid juniper]

i dont even know what that is tbh

thinking its an update i just said post

lol

[worn wave]

Dang, that was fast lol

[remote geode]

tldr: back in the day where you can headshot enemies with 30k damage with a silenced revolver

[rancid juniper]

craazy

[royal crow]

Yeah lol

[remote geode]

now enemies feel the same wherever you go

[wary fjord]

Sleep

[worn wave]

Well lemme know how it is. I haven't used one personally cause I have an apple watch but I've heard for $70 the cmf watch is pretty great

[remote geode]

back in the day some areas had weak enemies and strong enemies

[rancid juniper]

nothing that modding cant fix

[remote geode]

it's baked in the game iirc

[rancid juniper]

🤔

[acoustic palm]

what did power ever do to you

[remote geode]

power limits are evil !!

[rancid juniper]

college basketball?

[dusk knot]

Another

Basketball game

[upper rain]

@lone mango @fresh timber

[frigid stag]

My hood lifts up the other way 🗿

[rancid juniper]

yes

[upper rain]

you shpuld get that fixed

i know a great doctor for that kind of thing

[fresh timber]

how to convice my grandpa i need $300 to make the home wifi good

[frigid stag]

It’s actually a feature not a bug

[upper rain]

i don't think it's supposed to go like that

[frigid stag]

It’s so the window doesn’t get smashed

Just in case

[upper rain]

i woulf smash

[upper rain]

tell him you're going to give it to blackrock

[fresh timber]

lol

im prob just going to buy xfinity wifi pods

[upper rain]

i assume that's some mesh network thing?

[fresh timber]

yeah

$15 a month, not my money

[dusk knot]

Hm

[fresh timber]

we need it in this house

and by we i mean not me cause idc

pc ethernet, me happy

why am i overthinking this

[upper rain]

you overthink, i don't think at all

we are not the same

[fresh timber]

theirs only a few place the router can go, and as long as i get ethernet i couldnt give two smacks

[rancid juniper]

worst thing: Overthinking on tests

[fresh timber]

i just wanna get gigabit to my pc

[rancid juniper]

nah, mods limit his speed to 300mbps

[fresh timber]

ill make technitian figure that out

as long as pc get internet im happy

[misty sparrow]

i underthink on tests

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-meme-kys-funny-gif-9109439471190687540

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[tranquil pebble]

Beam tubers can be pretty annoying with monetization of their content ngl. I saw one that straight up just added super fast rivers to grid map and wanted patreon sub to download it lol.

Like nah I am not paying for a copy paste job in the map editor

[rancid juniper]

not too long ago i watched a video of someone clowning on some of the cars downloaded on patreon, those models are legit ripped from existing models of the game leading to odd situations

[tranquil pebble]

Straight up I just remade it myself

In less than 10 mins

[rancid juniper]

buys beamng mod

the mod:

https://tenor.com/view/scintilla-beamng-beamng-drive-bolide-scintilla-bolide-gif-26014616

[tranquil pebble]

I would not recommend paying for mods that are not well known. Very few are worth the risk.

[rancid juniper]

+potential added virus

[tranquil pebble]

And some are straight up stolen content

[rancid juniper]

a shame really because i thought the modding scene for beamng would be pretty good

there are some but people wanna get them $$$

[tranquil pebble]

Yeah but unfortunately there are scammers among them

[rancid juniper]

real

[tranquil pebble]

Hmm.. Wonder if any good USB 10gig NICs exist

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

Fr

[tranquil pebble]

Looks like there are but they are somewhat expensive for a USB 4 one...

[tall pine]

I am debating waterblocking my CPU & RAM vs a GPU upgrade. I am having a lot of fun and mental torture doing all this overclocking.

@idle nexus

[upper rain]

waterblocking ur ram 😭

homie atp just buy new sticks to fiddle with instead

probably cheaper that way too lol

[tall pine]

$350 kit

The RAM I am looking at

[upper rain]

$350 ram and ur on a 3070

[tall pine]

I don't game much.

[upper rain]

do you use the cpu and ram for stuff or is that just to have too?

[tall pine]

I definitely want to upgrade it eventually though.

[tall pine]

Work and hobbies like Blender, Premier, Photoshop, and some other stuff.

[misty sparrow]

how much ram is it

[tall pine]

Like I would love to have a better GPU but I haven't had this much fun doing something in a very long time.

[tall pine]

The kit I am looking at?

[misty sparrow]

yes

[tall pine]

2x32GB 6000cl26-36-36-96 1.45v

I am trying to get a highly binned kit for my next set of RAM.

[frosty sinew]

is an ethernet surge adapter a good idea for a dorm

[tall pine]

I want to keep my temps on both the CPU and RAM well under control to sustain high frequencies.

[misty sparrow]

that's $350?

wow i had no idea 64GB kits were that pricey

[tall pine]

Yes.

Best bin that isn't EOL.

6000cl28 at 1.45v is $260ish

If I use soft tubing would that allow me to basically make my own aio allowing me to take my waterblocks on and off a the components without draining it like an AIO?

[misty sparrow]

if i knew, i'd give you a good answer

i don't mess with AIOs

[dusk knot]

Hm

[frosty sinew]

ok bad idea

upgrade from 2x16 to 4x16 on my 5700x

its all 3600 cl16

yay or nay

[fresh timber]

Yay

[lone mango]

Should I just not plug in the front panel audio

[dusk knot]

Huh?

Remove the gpu

Or use USB audio

[misty sparrow]

hey guys guess what

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/s/VlCK7btMV1

[fresh timber]

Chicken bite

@rigid sinew hi

[lone mango]

Im selling it though

Buyer may want to use front panel audio

[tall pine]

Hmm seems to loop the CPU (Direct Die) and RAM will cost just under $800

[nocturne flicker]

Ban for spam

[fresh timber]

Somebody got stick bugged

[nocturne flicker]

You can tell it is the same video twice because it is the same video twice. Now I'm not going to watch it

[fresh timber]

Oh