general-chat

[tall pine]

Status update. All of CCD1 hit 5.8Ghz without a negative co.

[wild lake]

I hate support forums aka "you can post your problem but there's a 1/100 chance you'll actually get help" forums 🫩

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

What's happening?

[lone mango]

What you going thru rn

[tall pine]

@lone mango temps are peaking at 62.1c right now.

180W load.

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

16c ambient with TG PTM7950 works pretty well paired with LT720 in push/pull.

I currently have the PTM7950 setup so that it's on top and wrapping a little bit around the side of the IHS and covering about 70% of the cold plate to spread the heat as best as I can.

[lone mango]

Cold ass ambient

No wonder

Even if it was warmer thats still good

[wild lake]

So after i found out my laptop bricked today (i think it did i still don't know 😭) i tried booting up my legion go that i haven't used in MONTHS but luckily for me (🫩) it didn't want to charge or turn on AT ALL.

[lone mango]

I think you gotta open it up and dig in, or send it in if you got warranty still

[tall pine]

@lone mango lmao my Mother board Limits for PPT is about 800-900W according to HWinfo's percentage measure.

[lone mango]

Yeah they basically set it the highest value that can be allowed

[tall pine]

Is this one of the Lenovo laptops with Liquid Metal for the TiM?

[lone mango]

I think when boards were cooking intel cpus, they had it set to 2048 amps or something

They just put the highest limit the bios can take

[tall pine]

And here I was worried about setting EDC and TDC to 300 lmfao.

They have those set to like double what I was worried of.

[lone mango]

Well the cpu is still in control of how much current it will take

Its just that it wont be limited by a value the motherboard has set

[tall pine]

Alaska.

[lone mango]

yea lol

[tall pine]

Summer nights are between 12-16c.

Day time peaks about 20c give or take.

[lone mango]

Goes hard

[tall pine]

The SUN is bright though, direct sunlight here makes me feel like I am in a warm tropical climate.

[wild lake]

No, it's a 2021 dell g15 🥀

[tall pine]

So it won't power on and it's been sitting around for months?

[hoary zodiac]

Does anyone know how to get slime balls aside from finding a slime chunk or waiting in a swamp

[wild lake]

No, my legion go (the handheld) has been sitting around for months

My g15 seemingly bricked this morning

[lone mango]

Ngl I think that is all

I hope to be proven wrong but as far as I know thats it

[hoary zodiac]

sigh

I need to build a nether highway to the swamp

[tall pine]

So the Laptop won't power on and what's the issue with the Handheld?

[lone mango]

I forgot about slime chunks

So for me all I knew was a swamp

Luckily I found a huge ass swap with a modded fortress in it

[hoary zodiac]

work in progress sugar cane farm

need a lot more slime

[lone mango]

So thats gonna be fun when the next mc phase starts

[hoary zodiac]

I can currently have 1/3 of the production capacity

if I fill up the lane with sugar cane

[wild lake]

It won't charge and power on despite me not touching it in months

[tall pine]

@lone mango by the way I found a new way to speed up the CO testing process.

Step 1. Start with a strong negative CO that hits the desired frequency in a Single Core load like Core Cycler BBK.

Step 2. Run a very heavy all core load like Y-Cruncher VST3 to detect the erroring cores quickly then reduce as told.

[tall pine]

Nothing lights up? And did anything happen to it in the months say a pet jumping on it or storms etc.

[hoary zodiac]

time to go 2000 blocks

oh wait it's actually 3000

[wild lake]

No it's just been sitting there 😭
Usually the controllers light up when It's charging but nothing happened to today when i tried to charge it

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln-F7y669nk

wait what

you can completely automate it wtf

I didn't know you can make slimes with snow golems

[tall pine]

@lone mango now testing -40 on cores that survived VST3 at -35.

[hoary zodiac]

oh

[tall pine]

If I had to guess it's probably as simple as a dead charger or battery, heck maybe a loose cable if it got knocked around a bit.

You can open it up and check for loose connections or just send it in for warranty to get a replacement.

[hoary zodiac]

I can use an oozing potion to spawn a crap ton of slimes

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

that means I need... blaze rods

[tall pine]

I wonder if any of the cores can do -45 or -50 with the +200 override.

[hoary zodiac]

sigh

I hate this game

[tall pine]

Core 8 from CCD1 is promising because it hit 5.95Ghz without any offset.

[hoary zodiac]

at least my nether spawn was close to a fortress

Minecraft is really just

build a farm so you can build another farm

[tall pine]

I am debating Kryosheet and a offset mount or Kryosheet and delidding then upgrading to the TG's IHS. Thoughts?

[lone mango]

Your cpu is already cold enough, I dont see a reason to unless you want to go colder anyway

[tall pine]

Doesn't PBO love sub 50c?

Or am I remembering wrong

[lone mango]

I have no clue

Oh also

I am using those mini towers that are like 130mm high

One fan in the middle

And I hit 5.7 for a few frames

[tall pine]

Temps?

[lone mango]

Between 60-75

It varies a lot

[tall pine]

Ambient variance?

[lone mango]

All core is like 72-75 or so

[lone mango]

Nah it just changes clocks a lot in game

[tall pine]

Oh so due to load.

[lone mango]

Yeah gpu holds it back by a lot

I come from a 5600

So thats like a 55% increase

55-60

[tall pine]

Yes it does lmao

My 1% and 0.1% lows are fantastic though xD.

[lone mango]

I have a 6700xt

Oh we are kinda in the same boat

[tall pine]

Yup

[lone mango]

9060 xt is something like 20-25% faster than my card on average

But at the same power draw, so not bad ig

and with how rdna 4 undervolting works, i will actually gain performance by undervolting

so i can use that as a cope to gain more over the 6700 xt

[tall pine]

Welp the brand Darkflash is now pitching to Pervy sages.

Their top AIOs with a screen all have a big booba anime looking girl.

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

Naruto's Sensei won the war.

[lone mango]

Wait hold on

I think I can cope by undervolting and vram oc to get like maybe 30% over the 6700 xt

Even if I cap my power draw and undervolt, it still gains over stock

[tall pine]

PSU wattage not enough?

[lone mango]

The reason I am concerned about power is because I dont want my psu fan kicking on as much

[tall pine]

Btw -40 is surviving all core VST3.

Time to see which ones survive -50.

[lone mango]

But why was 35 not working earlier

Or is that because of +200

Are you just doing offset instead of oc and offset

[tall pine]

Some cores weren't as good.

I am doing per core.

[lone mango]

Oh you are doing per core

Oh ok

[tall pine]

Yup, I am that freak lmao

The per core guy.

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

I used Core Cycler to test which ones can hit +200 override

Now I am using VST3 to see which ones can handle the most undervolt.

Then I will do a final CC, OCCT, Karhu Cache+FPU, and VST3 run to check for daily stability.

[lone mango]

Does core cycler vary the load or just it just move the load to another core

Because I think ryzen master does its own kind of core cycler when it finds the lowest value

Idk never used cycler yet

[tall pine]

It tests 1 core at a time in the specified order and moves onto the next core in line if he previous fails. For loads, I use a custom profile Fal and Felix formulated that runs the following on each core.

• BKT
• BBP
• SFT
• FFT
• N32
• N64
• HNT
• VST3
• C17

[lone mango]

Are these all different instructions

[tall pine]

It runs pretty much every test you can imagine but on one core.

[lone mango]

that it feeds to the cpu

[tall pine]

Yup

Does each of those one at a time at 10m30s per iteration

Extremely comprehensive test suite.

BKT being the lightest load and VST3/C17 being very heavy loads on the core.

[lone mango]

Wow that takes a while

Honestly that makes me appreciate ryzen master more lmao

[tall pine]

It does the whole instruction set in 10m30s per iteration and then I usually run it for about 10 iterations per core to get initial stability.

[lone mango]

I dont mind spending time tinkering but not too much time

[lone mango]

Oh it does all instructions in 10 min

[tall pine]

It does each in short burst to test for idle to load stability with random pauses.

[lone mango]

Ok thats not so bad then actually

[tall pine]

-50 posts. Now running VST3

[lone mango]

I thought it was each for 10

[tall pine]

Thankfully not.

[lone mango]

Idk why i did but that would be ridiculous

[lone mango]

Thats pretty cool, so ryzen master basically does its own kind of core cycler then

It will send a core to 100 but then drop it to 30 or so, then go back up for a bit and drop it again

With the power draw changing constantly too, so its not just an on/off switch

Then it moves to the next one

[tall pine]

Yeah just not as thorough it only tests for light loads.

[lone mango]

I think it took like 25 or 30 minutes for all 6 cores

Or 35

I forgot ngl ima just say 30

[tall pine]

Much faster then damn

Btw -50 is not spitting errors so far.

[lone mango]

Thats good for undervolting though because that is where the stability is for undervolting

[tall pine]

That means 5 cores on CCD0 apparently seem to be able to do -50

[lone mango]

But for oc, max load seems to be where you want to test for stability because at lower loads, obv the cpu wont run out of spec

But with curve optimizer, every point on the graph gets shifted down

For example when I was undervolting my 6700 xt

It would crash when i went to the navigation menu of this game where I hit my fps cap but not in the ship where it goes to 100%

[lone mango]

Or like it wouldnt crash furmark but would crash in game

[tall pine]

Fair.

[lone mango]

Thats why core cycler is good for undervolting because it varies the load

[tall pine]

Hence why I love this test Suite.

Tests Low, Medium and Heavy loads.

Btw holding steady with no etrors

[lone mango]

Nice

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1ljrwrt/dead_9800x3d_on_b850_riptide_wifi/

lmfao

Poor fella he had no clue about all of this

[tall pine]

You think -60 will work?

@lone mango

[lone mango]

Probably only a few

[dense locust]

I just disabled the thing where the cpu voltage changes depending on load

Forget what’s it’s called

[tall pine]

Back in a few

Gonna eat

[lone mango]

You talking about soc uncore?

alr

[dense locust]

Well my pc is still working after 4 months

I’ll let you know if it explodes

[lone mango]

I think if it goes past 6 months you may be in the clear

[mental yoke]

from beyond the …. 😭

[lone mango]

Look I just need my cpu to last for an extra month

This is all I ask for

[dense locust]

I have a laptop so the only thing I’d lose is gaming

[lone mango]

I still will be pissed if it dies because my cores are just crazy binned but still

I cannot have it die during this brutal brainrotting summer semester

[dense locust]

What’s your mobo and cpu?

[lone mango]

9600x b650i lightning

[dense locust]

Pretty sure only x3d cpus are dying

You’ll be fine

[lone mango]

Normal cpus still die but its way more uncommon

This guy on reddit undervolted his 9700x and it still died

[dense locust]

Imo it’s just normal failures

[lone mango]

Could be both qc and maybe something with the board

Idk, too much quietness from both amd and asrock

[dense locust]

We got that one comment from them when YouTubers asked

The fact they had to do that tho

[lone mango]

I think its a cover because they say their limits were still within what amd prescribes

Makes 0 sense

Brotha said we are more in line with other boards now

[dense locust]

They did do something

Since the reports died down substantially

[lone mango]

They did change with 3.25 but people still had dying cpus, some even get issues right after updating

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1lgp72w/dead_after_6_weeks_ryzen_9900x_with_asrock_x870/

[dense locust]

Could be something like Intel where they degraded from previous bios versions

[lone mango]

This could be true

Or might even be

Idk, nobody knows actually

[dense locust]

My pc did freeze randomly one day

Only a reset got it to work

By reset I mean forced psu off using switch

Updated bios and it hasn’t had an issue since

[lone mango]

I think maybe there are some settings the board uses that override other settings the user puts in, but again everything people throw around is not confirmed

Its just things that might make sense

[lone mango]

Not sure if I should or not, too pessimistic about all of it

Either my chip dies or it doesnt

is the boat i took

[dense locust]

Who knows maybe we’ll see many cpus on asrock dying in the future from degradation

I guess we can only wait and see

[lone mango]

Ok how bout this

I update after the semester ends

So a month from now

Did 3.30 come out for all boards

[dense locust]

I dunno

I updated to the first one they said “fixed” it

[lone mango]

Is that 3.25 i guess?

I think that is the one they said is the fix

Funnily enough, I saw a guy get black screens when he turns the pc on, and then reverted back to 3.20 and it worked just fine

These off cases are what put me off

Back when 3.25 was new

So I was thinking to update a couple revisions after 3.25, assuming by then that the fix to fix the fix would have come out by then

Is this acceptable

[dense locust]

Dunno

The rate for failures of non x3d is so low you probably don’t even have to update

You think my Nintendo switch 2 will be mad if I charge it using a 30w charger?

[tall pine]

@lone mango -50 still running.

Going to try -60.

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

What is this emoji mean?

[lone mango]

Its this guy online called cigar guy

[tall pine]

The -50 cores are now set to -60 and core that was set to -30 and -35 have both been lowered by 5.

[lone mango]

I use it instead of like

[tall pine]

Posted into windows

HOLY

I saw it do 5.75Ghz all core for a whole 2.5-3s before dropping to 5.35-5.4Ghz.

[tall pine]

In VST3.

Going to let this run for another 10-20m before lowering further.

[tranquil pebble]

New PNG version dropped https://www.w3.org/TR/png-3/

Hopefully this will mean RIP to GIF

[mental yoke]

time to get assaulted by windows and linux updates fixing vulnerabilities in pngv6

[tall pine]

I have never used Curve Shaper. @lone mango do you know how it works?

To my understanding that will be the next step once I know my stable CO.

[lone mango]

Basically its curve optimizer but only for higher values

So when idle it wont be undervolting, but when the values go up, that is when it starts changing them

Pink is shaper

[tall pine]

I noticed it has a High, Medium, and low Frequency section that is further devided into Low, Medium, and High temperatures for each of the frequencies above.

[lone mango]

Found the one I was looking for

[mental yoke]

this is a really cool graph. the arrows are a hit much but 👍

[lone mango]

Brotha went od with them fr

[lone mango]

Found it

Yeah see how its basically stock until the clocks go up

[tall pine]

So it's to tell it at X Frequency it should opt for X voltage?

[lone mango]

Thats basically what that graph is

Voltage to frequency

But the difference is that instead of shifting the entire thing down, it only shifts the higher values

[lone mango]

See the one from amd here

Only the right side of the graph

[lone mango]

It starts to depart from stock around 5.1 to 5.2

[tall pine]

So the voltage stays the same

But with Curve Shape we are telling it that it should go for higher frequencies at those same Voltages?

[tall pine]

I see that stock and -30 CO are both hitting 5.1ghz but -30 CO is using far less voltage to achieve that same frequency.

[lone mango]

Yeah thats how undervolting is now

Youll get a little boost from uv

Amd cpus behave like gpus, just not to the extent that gpus do

[tall pine]

And since both graphs follow the same shape becausue one using less voltage to achieve the same frequency but both max out at 1.35v the one that uses less voltage can reach a higher frequency.

[lone mango]

Yeah when you have the voltage constraint it will boost higher as a result of it now having more headroom

[tall pine]

Assuming the silicon on the core in question can hit said frequency of course.

So I am going to check VST3.

You think it's still running or errored? @lone mango

[lone mango]

You at -60 now right

[tall pine]

-40
-60
-60
-25
-60
-60
-35
-60

[lone mango]

I think this might be the limit

I think you wont crash but some errors will come up

[tall pine]

Welp you were right about the error but I know which core did it lmfao.

It was core 0. The -40

Gotta reduce that one back to -35.

Retrying -60

Going to leave the not so good cores at their lower offsets

[proud jackal]

[tall pine]

?

How often can X3D chips do sub 50 negative co with 200 offset?

[mental yoke]

often? id say stable is stable usually but everything is just toeing the line

[tall pine]

I am wondering if it's normal for my V-Cache cores to be able to run such low values.

All my prior AM5 CPUs wouldn't even survive VST3 at -35

[mental yoke]

my microarchitecture manipulation knowledge is basically nill sorry 😅 i wanna make a noobie comment tho

why it sound like ur doing more than u could with intel

or same same?

[tall pine]

6/8 cores on CCD1 are hitting 5.9Ghz without any undervolt.

Looking promising.

[tall pine]

Not sure, haven't used Intel in years.

I really want to see a core do -88

That's be luckylucky for me, since 8 is my lucky number.

Hmm should I make a CC profile that runs a super light load for testing the Fmax of cores very quickly?

[mental yoke]

why not

[tall pine]

Hmm one of the cores with -60 co is not happy.

[tall pine]

How does Fmax Superlight sound for the profile name?

[mental yoke]

i name everything after famous cats

whiskers and spot

[tall pine]

Well I made the profile.

It uses extremely light tests specifically BKT, BPP, and SFT in short bursts.

Takes about 3m30s per full run.

Oh dang it works pretty fast.

Detected an error.

At this rate I should have my CO figured out in the next day or so.

[remote geode]

OLED without a maiden:

[elfin mural]

if it says incell, it's lcd

scamming people smh

[wary fjord]

Nice cheap OLED

[remote geode]

still an in-cell

[mental yoke]

LCD-OLED

get with the times

[fresh timber]

Good morning beautiful people

[craggy shoal]

lol incel

(Not directed toward Jayden)

[tranquil pebble]

Outcel

Now it is balanced

[fresh timber]

Lol incel not directed towards motor

[craggy shoal]

They were talking about "incell" monitors lol

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

[craggy shoal]

incel monitors I guess idk

Didn’t know they made monitors that hate women

Crazy times I guess

[fresh timber]

Go to work unc

[craggy shoal]

Get a job 😭

[mental yoke]

im hungry

what to eat

[fresh timber]

What’s wrong Unc

[rough zinc]

There's an entire market for it

[fresh timber]

I’m getting my pc today

Pog

I’m tired of a slow cpu

[rough zinc]

Just slap 12v into it, itll go faster for a bit

[fair onyx]

So I started getting that annoying "Your video playback will be blocked in 3 videos" cause of the ad blocker. it went 3, 2, 1, and I nuked it with the element blocker on Ublock, and now its not there anymore lmao

[upper rain]

@fresh timber need this

[fresh timber]

Oh

[mental yoke]

lol

[mental yoke]

everyone should ping mods at minimum

out of context; i don’t think everyone should ping mods* but the @everyone ping should

[nocturne flicker]

Ping pong

[wary fjord]

@idle nexus

do u like rtx from amd

[mental yoke]

is that a hybrid thingy

[upper rain]

the guy who posted said it came like this, but it's difficult to tell because i'm 90% sure the shroud for 5070 ti and 9070 xt Tuf cards share the same mounting to the heatsink

so he could have just swapped it. otherwise it's probably just a factory defect where a small batch of RTX shrouds was sent with the Rx cooler/PCB/gpu kits

[mental yoke]

ive slapped backplates onto other cards before yea

[wary fjord]

i probably wont touch that

and keep it in the box

it will be sold $$$ in near future

its like those defetive coins

but visually only

[mental yoke]

i have extra back plates from blocking cards actually :think

[unreal trail]

three 8 pin connectors 💀

bros gonna have a furnace in his pc

or her, I didnt see who posted it, all I saw was three power connectors

[atomic current]

I don't think that's tomie's actual gpu

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-14307036094483991064

[atomic current]

theo

[dusk knot]

Tea-0

[viral heron]

is there some type of resource where u can input specs and game and see what fps u should get?

[atomic current]

you could probably waste some megawatts asking an LLM to get a hallucinated answer

[dusk knot]

Huh

I've never thought of that before

I would only try that on the latest LLMs

Chatgpt is trying to tell me it's time to upgrade my RAM and CPU. Smh

[worn wave]

Youtube

[mental yoke]

its always time to upgrade

do it now

[dusk knot]

True

I would do a rtx 6000/9800x3d/64gb system if I could

[lone mango]

What timings though

Because I don't remember 3600 gaining that much over 3200 tbh

Its not like 6000 vs 6400 for am5

[junior willow]

WHY DOES MY CHROME LOOK LIKETHIS

it randomly started looking like this

ignore the search i typed random characters to see

[atomic current]

time to switch to quack quack bam

[junior willow]

no :(

[atomic current]

skill issue

[nocturne flicker]

Mhm

[junior willow]

Im NOT autistic

[atomic current]

why not

[nocturne flicker]

Is there a problem with it? 🤨

[misty sparrow]

chrome tomfoolery

[junior willow]

no i just hate ducks

[nocturne flicker]

Why the anti-duckism

[proud jackal]

NEW WINRAR VERSION IS OUT

[nocturne flicker]

7zip >

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-mahito-yuji-itadori-yuji-yuuji-gif-20475970

[junior willow]

a goose attacked me

and im generalizing all aquatic avians

[nocturne flicker]

Such speciesism

Also why were you bothering a goose, they aren't friendly to people who bother them, especially during mating season or near their nests

[junior willow]

it was a lake where i was chillin and he came up to ME and harasser ME

[dusk knot]

Cl 16

[misty sparrow]

he's right though

7zip > winrar

[mental yoke]

i dont know 😭

[mental yoke]

ur right tho

[fresh timber]

Get ready

High fps gameplay

[mental yoke]

buckle it in

[proud jackal]

https://x.com/VALORANT/status/1937927543333499240?s=19

VALORANT (@VALORANT)

he's back and this time he has a gun

Play VALORANT for 15 minutes now through June 30th to get the exclusive WHO GAVE HIM A GUN? @discord Avatar Decoration: https://t.co/HH3efEFFvP

X · Jun 25, 2025, 5:35 PM

[frigid stag]

Srry my fault

[junior willow]

https://tenor.com/view/swiss-cheesed-gif-8933496375858059687

[idle nexus]

which CPU?

fancy

[lone mango]

Nice

[idle nexus]

3200c16 could be like 10 ICs

from bdie to sad-die

[lone mango]

Install literal rootkit that starts up before windows fully initializes to get this avatar decoration that tells everyone you did it

Damn that doesnt sound as good

But effectively the same thing

[rancid juniper]

lol

[tranquil pebble]

real

[lone mango]

You know what

I am glad that anticheat games are scared of linux

I dont want that stuff on my system anyway

[lone mango]

Yes

[dusk knot]

You should know this. 5800x3d

[idle nexus]

oh right right

will FCLK POST at 2000? otherwise 1900 is probably outer limits

well not whether it will POST, more like do you get 500 WHEA errors every 1-2 minutes at 2000 FCLK lol

[fresh timber]

ugh

my pc shut off

for no reason

like psu powered off and back on

[idle nexus]

doing what?

[fresh timber]

playing rivals

aint no way THIS PSU DIED TOO

[idle nexus]

nothing in event viewer?

[upper rain]

$20 for the whole pc

[fresh timber]

kernal power

[idle nexus]

try Windows Logs>System

[fresh timber]

what

i have no idea how u use event viewer

ohh

[idle nexus]

what are those about?

[fresh timber]

iscsi

im reloading the game

if it dies again

Oh

I think I know why

Ima check something

Infinite again

[idle nexus]

no daisy chain on GPU power connections, right?

[fresh timber]

Yeah that was the problem lmfao, I fixed it

I forgot I set this pc up like that

[idle nexus]

OCP got mad

[fresh timber]

Yup

It’s fine in 7700xt not 9070xt

[idle nexus]

lol ya probably not

[fresh timber]

I just bought eps to pcie cause i don’t have the other cable with kek

Power limit time

added a -5% pl

[rancid juniper]

i run 7800xt at -10% pl

overclocking keeps it leveled tho

[fresh timber]

why

oh

lol

yeah i oc and -5

[rancid juniper]

reduced power/temps mainly

[fresh timber]

until adaptre comes tommrow

[rancid juniper]

but performance is still over stock

[fresh timber]

eps to pcie, what can go wrong

[idle nexus]

I run 100% PL but it never hits it

[fresh timber]

both 12v right

[rancid juniper]

i mean, after looking at your crazed oc runs

[fresh timber]

ok

rivals for the 3rd time

if psu shuts off ill give more pl

wanna know what this means

the old psu i was using didnt have over current protection

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

[idle nexus]

lol

[fresh timber]

that did the trick

[rancid juniper]

default...

[fresh timber]

no more crashing., same fps

[rancid juniper]

WHAT

💀

[idle nexus]

lol I turn it down to 75% sometimes

[fresh timber]

im so happy this was a easy fix

[idle nexus]

Resident Evil 2 will hit 800w somehow

like no other game does that I dunno why

[rancid juniper]

least efficient gaming

nah

[fresh timber]

whoo

[rancid juniper]

throw efficiency out the window

[fresh timber]

im hitting 240fps again

am i cpu limited

i need to setup msi afterburner overlay again

[rancid juniper]

(Running 5500?)

[fresh timber]

no

thats goin

[rancid juniper]

ok

[fresh timber]

13600kf

my fps isnt trash anymore

[rancid juniper]

because the cpu is just goated

[fresh timber]

i think im finally GPU limited

im pretty sure im getting the same fps i would with oiut the PL lol

undervolted so it can boost to normal levels

[idle nexus]

I put image quality setting to 200% (I dunno why it goes that high?) & everything else on max

just to see

[fresh timber]

i just realised

my ol;d psu wo uld run two gpus at 300w each on a single 8pin ech...

i dont think that psu had protections

[idle nexus]

it just hit 566.907w & I didn't even start the game wth

[fresh timber]

wheres a ss of my old PL

not pL

overlay

ima copy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102940078505984/1386797599964659782/A2A5772F-7B2F-4F14-8F13-236C1D7F1D2C.png?ex=685da669&is=685c54e9&hm=4ef289920cdbf4738c6d641de0d3a1d967ad44bee219d32979e2a6ef41d668c7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=309

[rancid juniper]

game is actually a power virus

[idle nexus]

fr it's like OCCT Power test

I wonder if when they made the graphics able to go up to 200% if they ever thought anyone would use it

[rancid juniper]

🤔

[fresh timber]

i think i still have a technical bottleneck

okay in real gameplay it will be pretty even

[sinful blade]

Meanwhile I’m getting 75fps on low all

[fresh timber]

im getting up to 240

sorry mr roomba

this goin hurt

i put my side panel on like i aint gotta rip it of tommrow

[lone mango]

fr

[fresh timber]

im balacing my storage

[upper rain]

yikes, long update lol

i get like 180fps 1440p native with all thr hw accelerated rt stuff cranked up. pretty neat!

[fresh timber]

it was fun getting everything over

i got a good 300GB transfered from old install

saved hella time

[fresh timber]

i wish i had a single 8tb drive

but i aint made of money

[upper rain]

sell a kidney

[fresh timber]

if i sold a kidney

id legit

[upper rain]

ur liver can even grow back, so sell a few lobes

[fresh timber]

buy new pc

[fresh timber]

if u could sell your liver id do that

i want to buy 5g wifi so bad

so i dont have to suffer at my dads

[upper rain]

i know a guy in mainland china...

[fresh timber]

i was at my mom for like 4 hours.. should have updated at hers

i could have had 500gb installed in a hour over their

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/136616231? @upper rain

very impressive

when i can unlock the gpu iots going to be 🔥

[forest bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKjmpK

i decided to build my own pc and here is the list

i realized i can save like 450-600$ instead, is this build any good?

[tall pine]

What are you using it for?

[forest bloom]

1440p gaming and streaming and also maybe stocks when i turn 18 and to also run my buisness but PRIORITY #1 is performance in gaming lol

[tall pine]

What apps do you expect to use it for later on work wise?

[forest bloom]

i dont really know yet because its a car detailing buisness so that shouldnt be too "Power consuming" lol

[tall pine]

Because I see a few ways to improve the system.

If you can wait a few minutes I can whip up a better list. What is the max vs preferred budget?

[acoustic palm]

...

[tall pine]

Also are looks important?

Brb in like 5m.

[forest bloom]

aslong as its all black and not an rgb mess ) u can put rgb aslong as it can all be changed to the same color lol) ahnd also myu budget is around 1500 ish dollars

i prefer using the corsair 3500X argb, i think its an amazing case

[forest bloom]

okay! thank u for helpin me byw mane!

[acoustic palm]

ill make a list

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm

[acoustic palm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M9gVPJ

much better gaming performance for cheaper

[forest bloom]

hmmm the PSU is concerning?

why go with a 3rd party?

[acoustic palm]

what?

montech is good huh

[forest bloom]

ive never heard of Montech

[acoustic palm]

B on the psu tier list

[sinful blade]

All of us have

[forest bloom]

hmmm bet

cus ive been recommended before to that PSU so it seems like a good option lol

[acoustic palm]

waut

vetroo is same price

just get that

A on the psu teir list

[nocturne flicker]

I haven't, there is only Corsair

[forest bloom]

alr lemme add it to the thing

[acoustic palm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n2JhLc

[nocturne flicker]

Must spend $300 on rgb

[acoustic palm]

im thinking about doing a full water cooled hard tubing system soon

casue i wanna

[forest bloom]

this looks amazing

[nocturne flicker]

I mean, that isn't wasting money on junk that is only expensive because RGB and branding

[acoustic palm]

no im still wasting money

my gpu temps are absurdly low and id wanna do it for the experience

[nocturne flicker]

I'm saying that isn't the worst way to waste money

[acoustic palm]

id spend like almost a 1000 😭

[nocturne flicker]

Okay bucko that is a bit too much

[acoustic palm]

broooo

only alphacool sells the backplate for my gpu

[pliant berry]

ima go to sleep

[acoustic palm]

wait

its only 200 for gpu block

what am i saying

😭

[nocturne flicker]

What are you saying

Where am I

When am I

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-then-you-are-lost-gif-13935229

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[rancid juniper]

e

[fresh timber]

this is scaring me chat

my pc is so quiet

im scared

[pliant berry]

my pc sounds so quiet compared to the fan sitting on my head

[acoustic palm]

bro

why does alphacools site refuse to go to english

[nocturne flicker]

Never hear PC with desk fan running

And if you do there is a problem

[rancid juniper]

i undervolted a 4060 mobile

[lone mango]

Power saved is saved power

[tall pine]

Back

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

the truth

[tall pine]

@forest bloom are you fine with refurbished parts? They will function as new but cost a fraction while having warranty.

[forest bloom]

Hmm sure

[fresh timber]

@lone mango

look at the fps now

[lone mango]

Isnt that like double or something

[fresh timber]

40-60 more fps

[lone mango]

80% more smth

[fresh timber]

give or take

[nocturne flicker]

But is saved power power saved?

[fresh timber]

uhh

im now cpu bo und

my gpu busy is like 0.3ms

no gpu bound

[nocturne flicker]

Busy

[lone mango]

Yeah hd2 is really cpu heavy

Idk which settings lower cpu usage

[tall pine]

Aight give me a few to whip up a list

[fresh timber]

had to pull up capframex for 1% lows

very good

very good indeed

[fresh timber]

40% is cpu heavy chat

do i have a problem

[frigid stag]

4 nvmes damn

[acoustic palm]

@idle nexus youre good with watercooling right

[lone mango]

Well 42% of your cores are p cores

It is probably not using e cores

[fresh timber]

yup

i have wacky cpu

[lone mango]

My 5600 was at like 80-90%

[fresh timber]

my 5500 maxed out alot of the time

[lone mango]

So it is pushing your p cores really hard

[fresh timber]

i will never buy a 6 core cpu again

14c is peak

[frigid stag]

Imagine with hyperthreading off

Brutal

[fresh timber]

i could

it wont be brutal

[idle nexus]

lol I like to believe I am but I'm sure there's better

[fresh timber]

i have 8 E cores

[lone mango]

Only 42% of them are being used rn

[frigid stag]

Can the game even run on e cores

Without stuttering

[acoustic palm]

is EK-QUANTUM a good cpu block

https://www.performance-pcs.com/products/ek-quantum-velocity-edge-d-rgb-am5-silver-special-edition this one specifically

[fresh timber]

im pretty sure my E cores are the same performance as the 5500

[idle nexus]

it's not bad

[fresh timber]

its EK

so no

[idle nexus]

I have a vendetta against EK

but trying to be impartial, it's probably good

[frigid stag]

Ye some games can run on them

[idle nexus]

you can likely get just as good for cheaper

[fresh timber]

i can make any game run on E cores

[sinful blade]

EK blocks are popular

[acoustic palm]

alr

[idle nexus]

but if you like the aesthetic I understand

[fresh timber]

i can just, disable my P cores

[acoustic palm]

what you recomend

[fresh timber]

do i have a problem

[idle nexus]

needs rgb?

[acoustic palm]

not needed but would be a plus

[fresh timber]

rgb on a block looks weird

[frigid stag]

Try it

[fresh timber]

im too lazy to

[rancid juniper]

😳

[idle nexus]

Optimus is probably the best thing on the market

Bitspower, Thermaltake, & even Corsair have been good to me

non rgb, Heatkiller is awesome

[acoustic palm]

https://www.performance-pcs.com/products/optimus-foundation-cpu-block-acrylic-satin-aluminum-nickel-amd

[idle nexus]

Alphacool are really good too

[frigid stag]

Isn’t that the really expensive one

[acoustic palm]

if i do this ill get that for my gpu

[idle nexus]

ya Optimus is like top of the line imo

not even imo

the prices reflect it

if you want Optimus, check their website

[fresh timber]

waterloop 9070xt

[acoustic palm]

wait

thats not

am5

[fresh timber]

quok

[idle nexus]

sometimes they have like tiny imperfection blocks for like half the price

[fresh timber]

why ru watre looping

[acoustic palm]

im thinking about it

[acoustic palm]

everything sold out

[fresh timber]

buddy

u cant isntall ethernet drivers and u wanna waterloop??

[idle nexus]

oh ThermalGrizzy's Mycro looks good but tbh I've never used it

[acoustic palm]

tyfm i cant???

[fresh timber]

i vividly remember teaching you how

[idle nexus]

btw I'd get a nickel plated block in case you want to use liquid metal

[fresh timber]

quok and liquid metal

o god

[idle nexus]

copper works with liquid metal but it stains the heck out of it really bad & needs to be reapplied until there's like an alloy formed lol

[acoustic palm]

im not using liquid metal

💀

[fresh timber]

is this raw or nah

[acoustic palm]

also just wanna double triple check

https://www.thermaltake.com/view-380-xl-tg-argb-snow-mid-tower-chassis.html this case would work fine right?

im thinking res on back, 2 360 rads on top and bottom

[forest bloom]

bet

[acoustic palm]

btw if youre willing to spend all the budget you can get a 9070xt

which is a good bit better

[fresh timber]

id rather 7600 9070xt over 7800x3d 9070

[acoustic palm]

hes getting 9600x 9070/xt

[forest bloom]

hmmm thanks brotisserie chicken wit a side of brobrocolies

[acoustic palm]

now im hungry

😦

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

ybt fiidi

iadjaidja

[forest bloom]

i love nvidia DLSS tho but ive heard FSR is damn near identical its js that it isnt available in most games lol

[acoustic palm]

its available in a lot of games, and tbh its better to not use

and your card (either of them) can run any game in 1440p high settings at good fps

[forest bloom]

raw performance> i always love but having it as an option is always fun lol

[acoustic palm]

thats true

[forest bloom]

hmm yea def bropapi

[acoustic palm]

if you really want fsr4 and its not in the game you can get it in games that dont support it

but a LOT of games support fsr3.1, and a good amount support fsr4

[forest bloom]

even if it dont support fsr i can js put it down to 1080p max settings lol

[fresh timber]

ru live then

[fresh timber]

optiscaler

[acoustic palm]

vex

[fresh timber]

im not wrong

[acoustic palm]

read the message i said

just before that

[frigid stag]

https://x.com/mango_raw/status/1935605885377675291#m

RawMango (@mango_raw)

@Kepler_L2 Yeah, they already had it on RDNA3.

X · Jun 19, 2025, 7:49 AM

[fresh timber]

no

idc

im right

[acoustic palm]

you are

[frigid stag]

What even is this about

[fresh timber]

also rdna3 supports fsr4

[acoustic palm]

nah

your card can run any game 1440p max settings (not counting rt)

[fresh timber]

if your playing 1440p your next best option is 720p

scales better

[forest bloom]

oh rllu? damn

[fresh timber]

9070xt can raytrace at 1440p max

[acoustic palm]

that too

i get like

100 fps in c77 med rt all max settings

[forest bloom]

it seems like ive understimated AMD for their gpu's these past couple years

[frigid stag]

Eh

[acoustic palm]

also 9070xt is 730 on pcpp

id heavily recommend that

[frigid stag]

For rt before they were a lot slower

[acoustic palm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7h4xdb

if its a hard limit of 1500 not a dollar over you can get a bit worse of a ssd

[forest bloom]

hey, i miss u mane

[lone mango]

[frigid stag]

Discord users are unhinged

[nocturne flicker]

Always have been

[fresh timber]

your mother

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[fresh timber]

your theo

[acoustic palm]

@idle nexus you left me 💔

[proud jackal]

Should i

[fresh timber]

5090 when

[forest bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H3Vj9C mane on EVB souls this cant run roblox

[fresh timber]

this 9070xt looks raw in my pc

[forest bloom]

💸 $1500 Gaming PC Budget Breakdown (USD)
Component % of Budget Budget ($) Notes
GPU (Graphics Card) 35–40% $525–$600 Priority #1 for gaming. Look for something like an RTX 4070 Super or RX 7900 XT.
CPU (Processor) 20–25% $300–$375 Great options: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D or Intel Core i7-14700K.
Motherboard 10–12% $150–$180 Match socket and features (e.g., X670 for Ryzen or Z790 for Intel).
RAM (16–32GB) 7–10% $100–$150 32GB DDR5 (6000MHz+ for AMD, 6400MHz+ for Intel if possible).
Storage (SSD) 7–10% $100–$150 1TB or 2TB NVMe Gen 4 SSD for fast load times.
Power Supply (PSU) 5–7% $75–$105 650W–850W, 80+ Gold certified. Future-proof if upgrading GPU later.
Case 5–7% $75–$105 ATX mid-tower with good airflow and GPU clearance.
Cooling (if needed) 2–5% $30–$75 Stock coolers are fine for some CPUs; others need aftermarket (like Noctua or AIO).

do yall agree on this list?

[lone mango]

Ngl

You probably could have made two pcpp lists typing allat

[fresh timber]

bro

i gained like 70fps

my gpu is STILL sleeping

[lone mango]

Are you running the gpu stock rn

[fresh timber]

no -5% lp

my psu getting tripped

cause daisy chai

[rancid juniper]

"new" gacha game just dropped

[fresh timber]

im geting stock performance with a UV

lol

bro

i love this pc

i dont want new cpu anymore

[rancid juniper]

what a 13600k does to someone:

[fresh timber]

i turned raytacing on and maxed out graphics

90fps

stabalized to 120

[forest bloom]

copy and paste papi

[nocturne flicker]

The min percentages add up to less than 100%, the max percentages add up to more than 100%, the lower dollar amounts add up to less than 1.5k, the higher dollar amounts add up to more, if you are getting an aftermarket cooler just slap on a less expensive cooler, Noctua is only for DIY people with cash to burn. You can do gen 3 SSDs or hybrid it with a hard drive for older games that don't need a SSD, 80+ Gold is not an indication of quality, refer to the PSU tier list

[forest bloom]

should i get a 5070 12gb or 5060 ti 16gb or js rob a microcenter

[fresh timber]

i run gen 3 ssds

[forest bloom]

i js dont know if i wana switch to AMD and the DLSS shi makes my whole body tingle like a mama cheating on her husband

[nocturne flicker]

...Is that good or bad for DLSS?

[lone mango]

Well yeah you went from what was basically a base 4070 to in between a 4080s and a 4090

[forest bloom]

idk, i js want something good for 1440p that around 600 dollars lol

[lone mango]

https://nztcdn.com/files/6daf5d6f-0fce-44da-8153-cc1ea535ccd1.webp

[forest bloom]

hey

can u guys help me with GPUs

[topaz crown]

Hello @forest bloom! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[forest bloom]

im gonna touch dyno

[mental yoke]

bro

[proud jackal]

When the white astral 5090 out

[fresh timber]

Pog

My pc is big

I want smaller

Deadass

Nvm those cases are still big

[dire light]

anyone know if iOS 26 dev beta is worth it

[sinful blade]

And my brakes just went out

This is the greatest week of my life

Truly

[worn wave]

iOS betas tend to be fairly stable but 26 doesn't support rolling back, so if your putting it on your main phone I would reccomend a full backup first

[dire light]

Side question, could be dumb too, if I want to go to my backup, does that reset texts to when I backed it up and photos etc? Alsoooo how do I use the backup.

[worn wave]

r/iOSBeta is a good place to look for peoples experiences with it

[dire light]

Okay

I’ll go there! Thanks steviejoe!

[worn wave]

Not completely sure tbh. Use the itunes PC app to backup

It might have a different name now, but same idea, use whatever Apple officially reccomends

[pliant berry]

iphone backups are pretty complete from what I’ve seen

[worn wave]

I think because of no rollback support for ios26, loading your ios18 backup wouldn't keep newer photos, texts, etc but I'm not totally sure

[pliant berry]

Prob not

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

I’ll fix em

Nokias make good breaks

[nocturne flicker]

No Kias, we only accept Fords made in America that are actually made in Mexico

[fresh timber]

I might cancel sense a 5% pl reduction fixed my problem

[forest bloom]

Is the 7 7800X3D good paired with a 5070?

[forest bloom]

I sthus the corsair Argb case?

[fresh timber]

No

[tranquil pebble]

Is it any good? "Gacha" does not have me exactly hyped about it.

[rancid juniper]

apparently some people have mentioned that the gacha elements aren't that invasive to the player

i think a major turnoff for people overseas is the lack of dubbing

like there is only subs

ill play it soon to find out

[torpid copper]

Hey does anyone know the difference between LGA1851 Socket size vs Processor size?

I think socket is 37.5mm x 45mm

[tranquil pebble]

why?

[fresh timber]

Is it worth the hour to install these

[torpid copper]

Need it for designing spec documentation

Found package dimensions for AMD but nothing for LGAs

[torpid copper]

Im building Buildcores.com and we are adding CPU support to the builds ;p

[tranquil pebble]

AM5 is LGA lol. You mean for Intel?

[torpid copper]

Yeah Intel

AM5 is Ryzen wdym?

thats AMD

[tranquil pebble]

LGA is a socket design type

it is not specific to AMD or Intel

[torpid copper]

yeah intel uses LGA?

[fresh timber]

Yeah

[tranquil pebble]

so does AMD

[fresh timber]

So does amd

[torpid copper]

Arent all AMDs in AM5/AM4?

[fresh timber]

Am4 isn’t lga, am5 is

[tranquil pebble]

AM4 was PGA

[torpid copper]

Ah

[rancid juniper]

AM4 and earlier used PGA yuh

[torpid copper]

Ok so LGA 1851 is intel specific

LGA is just the layout type

[rancid juniper]

LGA "number" is just the pin count

[tranquil pebble]

Except Threadripper. That was always LGA.

[torpid copper]

Ahh

[rancid juniper]

LGA 1700 = 1700 pins
LGA 1851 = 1851 pins

[torpid copper]

I see that makes sense

But I head the socket for LGA 1700 and 1851 is the same size 37.5 x 45mm

Trying to figure out the processor dimensions or the full package size

[mental yoke]

socket size and die size different yea

[torpid copper]

Yeah for AMD stuff I found info but for intel cant find anything

[fresh timber]

Lga1000 when

[tranquil pebble]

Intel locks some of its specs behind NDAs

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[mental yoke]

and other info behind 5000 redirecta

[torpid copper]

I have access to some lol

[fresh timber]

Leaking nda

Downloaded

[rancid juniper]

Maybe it's too new to be disclosed idk

[torpid copper]

😄

[rancid juniper]

Gonna have to wait

[fresh timber]

Too late

[mental yoke]

just patent info

[torpid copper]

lmaoo

Yeah but for 3d models we need to figure it out

[tranquil pebble]

yeah that is not NDA stuff

[torpid copper]

I can give the people CPU support without figuring out the processor and socket info

[torpid copper]

lol

[mental yoke]

everything is nda now ur all under contract

[rancid juniper]

Igorslab, ain't that the site that leaks tech stuff sometimes?

[tranquil pebble]

Well... Igor's lab had it so the cat is out of the bag already

[fresh timber]

Luckily I’m not

[tranquil pebble]

and AFAIK you can not enter an NDA by someone else breaking said NDA. It is a contract lol.

[torpid copper]

This is the socket right

I can barely read the measurments

[rancid juniper]

Yea

[torpid copper]

:c

[tranquil pebble]

Would be a legal nightmare if this were the case

[torpid copper]

Yeah fr

[fresh timber]

IRRC you can post nda content if you yourself is not under that nda

[torpid copper]

NDAs are weird we are under a bunch rn

[tranquil pebble]

Depends. If it is protected by something else, nope.

but you wont be breaking an NDA you never signed

[weak cedar]

I challenge you to a NDA battle

[fresh timber]

Yup

[torpid copper]

Does anyone have crazy eyes and can read the damn measurments here lol

[fresh timber]

The person who leaked it to me would be introuble

Not me

[tranquil pebble]

and honestly, breaking an NDA is not worth the consequences it can have to one's career

[torpid copper]

Yeah fr

[worthy meteor]

wikichips used to have a lot of good info but they haven't really been updating stuff

[torpid copper]

Yeah I found all AMD stuff on wikichips

but Intel has been annoying

All I need atp is Socket, Prcoessor, Package size and this spec is ready to start testing with

[tranquil pebble]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-lga1851-socket-for-future-arrow-lake-cpus-detailed

[worthy meteor]

yea this should be pretty good for you
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-socket-lga-1700-and-lga-1800-in-detail-exclusive-data-and-drawings-for-the-new-cpus-ab-alder-lake/

[torpid copper]

Oh yeah this can be usefull have some of these dimensions already

but good for package size

[torpid copper]

Oh body size should be processor size right?

and socket is 45 x 37.55mm

[worthy meteor]

this is prob the most useful chart

[torpid copper]

Oh yeah thats nice

whats the difference between mechanical details 2/5 and 3/5 page

[worthy meteor]

looks like 3/5 is more about the pins

2/5 is the whole thing including the plastic bits, 3/5 looks to be measuring between the pins

[torpid copper]

Ah I see

once I figure out the die height this should be good

[fresh timber]

fps

[tranquil pebble]

fumos per second

[fresh timber]

uniorncily im cpu limitd

i need better cpu

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[fresh timber]

400fps isnt eno0ugh

i need 60000

[tranquil pebble]

simply get a 100 GHz CPU

Windows 11 is uglier than Windows 9x ngl

[atomic current]

they should make an OS with windows 11 visuals and windows 9x internals

[fresh timber]

i have a cool app to customise it, i just dont wanna deal with learning curve

[tranquil pebble]

an update would eventually bork it anyways

[fresh timber]

depends, plus i dont undate

i dont get the updates that break crap

[tranquil pebble]

Xbox Live + console ban = Xbox Ground

[fresh timber]

i gained like 60fps in doom dark ages