general-chat

[rancid juniper]

probably breaking the game too

yes but barely

[pliant berry]

oh I see now. ehh it's pretty minor I might just ask around see if it could just be a software thing

[slate ice]

Actually it’s a nova mesh bitfenix case

[rancid juniper]

part picker stated that gpu is 330mm and the case can fit up to 345mm

[slate ice]

Argb

[rancid juniper]

oh

[fresh timber]

4.6cwss not stable

Ima go to 4.5 and forget

[rancid juniper]

bad bin

[slate ice]

Yeah I’m struggling to get the card in

I guess I need to open the front panel?

[rancid juniper]

this? @slate ice

[misty sparrow]

i've heard people are also playing as the cow en masse

literal groups of cows

[nocturne flicker]

You have to disable that with a registry edit

[rancid juniper]

just remove the middle fan from front panel

[slate ice]

Nova Mesh M

[fresh timber]

Uninstall the fan

I have to uninstall fans to fit my 9070xt

[rancid juniper]

wow, thats tight

just remove middle fan and thats it

unless the card is dummy thicc

[fresh timber]

lol my gpu won’t fit in that

[slate ice]

I can try that lol, it will be tight

[pliant berry]

wow I think this is the first time I warm booted my server without boot looping

[opaque sedge]

Nope not a software thing

[pliant berry]

times are finally changing

[nocturne flicker]

What if you mount the fan on the exterior of the fan mounting rail

[slate ice]

I was recommended these parts by mods here 😬 which is the frustrating part

[frigid stag]

Who did

[slate ice]

The towers aren’t even expensive. Why risk this issue?

[fresh timber]

Who recommended that

[frigid stag]

Some people cheap out a lot on things like that

Idk why

[fresh timber]

They need a talking to

[slate ice]

Honestly I don’t remember. It was like 5 months ago.

[fresh timber]

Was it in build chat

[slate ice]

I remember the mushroom

[rancid juniper]

uh

yes

[fresh timber]

@grand kernel

it doesnt fit

[slate ice]

I have an old cyberpower case I could use instead

Should I just do that?

[fresh timber]

yeah

if it fits

[frigid stag]

Ye return that shi

[fresh timber]

matx cases suck

80% dont even fit my gpu

[frigid stag]

Oh it’s matx euh

[sinful blade]

Me

It was me

[nocturne flicker]

It was Felix

[fresh timber]

i just need to fit a 350mm

[frigid stag]

Nah don’t take the blame

If it wasn’t

[fresh timber]

fr

if i knew more i can get 4.6ghz

4.6 was the verge of stabilityh

cause 4.7 bluescreens

i think its a limit of what i know and cooling

[nocturne flicker]

I searched the chat, Felix was the one talking with him 6 months ago

[fresh timber]

damn

it was felix

newegg must reimberse bro

[slate ice]

I bought it all long ago

[sinful blade]

Hmmmm

[slate ice]

Knowing the prices would soar

[sinful blade]

I may be dumb

[fresh timber]

but ur not that dumb

when i buy small cases i always check gpu combatability

[slate ice]

Should I buy a new better case or just use this old one?

[frigid stag]

But a new case

[slate ice]

This was my first ever pc build

[fresh timber]

your going to have to buy a new one if you want it to fit

[slate ice]

Learned it all this weekend

[frigid stag]

Use the old one if you want to build it now

[fresh timber]

for now u can just run the system on a box

i ran my pc on a box until my case came

[slate ice]

I have an old cyberpower tower

[fresh timber]

put it in that

[slate ice]

It is a wee bit dusty

[fresh timber]

is that front panel glass or mesh

i think its mesh

[sinful blade]

Get a giant EATX case

[fresh timber]

that good

[slate ice]

It’s hard

[fresh timber]

o

its hard

can air go through it or nah

[sinful blade]

It’s plastic mesh type

[fresh timber]

that good then

[slate ice]

Ok

[fresh timber]

honeslty id just.. use that case and forget.. it looks not bad

[slate ice]

I’ll just use this if it will fit

[fresh timber]

@sinful blade what should i adjust about my overlay

[sinful blade]

Take away ram

That’s it

[fresh timber]

no ram

bye bye ram

they wont let me put frequency

[sinful blade]

[fresh timber]

i did this new problem.. 1% lows are bad

[lone mango]

its not mesh but it is perforated

i guess you could say it is in between mesh and a solid panel

[slate ice]

Imma try 1 more time to jenga this gpu in

To the small case

[lone mango]

take a pic of it outside the case

like hold it next to the case

[slate ice]

The gpu?

[lone mango]

Yeah hold it next to the case

Is it the same length as the case

Or a tiny bit smaller

[misty sparrow]

did you actually pick comic sans as the font

[fresh timber]

yes

[lone mango]

Very brutal

[fresh timber]

i like it

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

nr200 comes in tomorrow

i messaged the psu seller and got no response

i guess ima just get the psu anyway

[fresh timber]

how fix 1% lows

[lone mango]

bro aired me

[lone mango]

cpu

[fresh timber]

cpu

cpu alr faster

[lone mango]

Helldivers is very cpu heavy

[slate ice]

I got her in

Brutal though

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

old case?

[slate ice]

Had to take everything off

[fresh timber]

ano thats the new one, it barley fits

[lone mango]

Screenshot shows 5500

[fresh timber]

whats the 5500 telling u sir

[lone mango]

Cpu is limiting you in hd2

[slate ice]

And also didn’t notice a rubber shield on the gpu 😂 so I was mashing it wondering why it wouldn’t slot

[lone mango]

Very cpu heavy game

[fresh timber]

how can u tell

[lone mango]

.

[fresh timber]

but in that screenshot

how can i tell

[lone mango]

Your gpu is not being fully utilized despite the frame rate not being very high

Its a good framerate, but wouldnt you expect it to be a limitation at a higher frame rate?

[fresh timber]

yes

i can get more fps

[lone mango]

When I was streaming on discord with my cpu, it was like 90%+ usage

hd2 is very cpu heavy

[fresh timber]

i need to add GPU busy to my overlay

its in prsentmon i think

[lone mango]

ya

[fresh timber]

https://github.com/GameTechDev/PresentMon

this??

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

i like how even intel oversources crap

oh this is the wrong one but does the same hting lol

[lone mango]

Yeah intel is a fan of foss

[fresh timber]

oh its right here

do i add CPU busy or GPU busy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAJjC4xmBb0&t=285smy my brother uses GPUbusy

i had the username vex longer than him

[lone mango]

Wait what is there a cli version of presentmon

https://game.intel.com/us/intel-presentmon/

[fresh timber]

which one should i use

[lone mango]

gpu wait means your gpu is waiting to be fed information

[fresh timber]

what is GPU busy

vex uses that one

[lone mango]

gpu busy is how long it is taking to render a frame

[fresh timber]

oh

which one should i use

[lone mango]

gpu busy is used probably because you get the most from just that metric

so use that

see gpu busy is very low

[fresh timber]

should i add CPU busy and CPU wait or nah

[lone mango]

Nah that aint needed

[fresh timber]

oh gpus waiting for 4ms

how do i read this

[slate ice]

Ok so new problem

Pc won’t start

[fresh timber]

is the pc plugged in

[slate ice]

Does the gpu need to be connected to power for start?

[fresh timber]

yes

[slate ice]

Ah ok that’s probably it then

[fresh timber]

plug the gpu in

[lone mango]

What position is you psu switch in

[fresh timber]

is psu on the I or the O

[slate ice]

I’m not that dumb

It’s plugged in

[fresh timber]

is the psu on tho

[slate ice]

How can I tell?

Nothing turned on at all

[fresh timber]

the switch, is it flipped on the I or the O

[slate ice]

Both lol

I

[fresh timber]

both?????

[slate ice]

…

[fresh timber]

use the I

[slate ice]

It’s on dude

[fresh timber]

that means on

[slate ice]

I know that

[fresh timber]

how did u wire the front panel

@lone mango is this bad, intel says 8ms

[lone mango]

gpu busy is less than the frame time so that means you are cpu limited. the time it takes to render the frame is lower than the frame time

[fresh timber]

OHH

if gpu busy is less than frametiem thas bad right

[lone mango]

yea

[fresh timber]

that makes sense

[slate ice]

These are the 2 cables I plugged in from psu

[fresh timber]

its waiting for a long time

[fresh timber]

power the gpu

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

we cant move foward

[opaque sedge]

Ok this is pretty cool confirmation that other launchers will work

[fresh timber]

it seems like a custom windows

[slate ice]

It doesn’t turn on…that’s the issue

[fresh timber]

like xbox

[lone mango]

Brother

[fresh timber]

it wont turn on if the gpu doesnt have power???

[opaque sedge]

Hardware may not be the desirable level and prolly price as well but atleast the competition ended up bringing cool stuff into fruition

[lone mango]

Well it still should turn on, there just wont be display

[fresh timber]

its a z2 extreme

its at a desriable level

[slate ice]

You’re an obnoxious one eh

[lone mango]

I think your front panel connectors are not plugged in correctly

[slate ice]

It has power, I’ve said about 5x

[fresh timber]

u just sent a photo of the gpu not plugged in

[opaque sedge]

Its z2 ai extreme now the z2 extreme but with an npu slapped onto it

For ai

[fresh timber]

they took the AI chip and renamed it lmfao

[opaque sedge]

Fsr 4 support would be cool

[fresh timber]

it wont

only rdna4 supports fsr4

[lone mango]

The computer can turn on without one, it just wont post

[fresh timber]

rdra3 phyisclly cannot run fsr4 as it is right now

[lone mango]

Probably front panel connections are wrong

[opaque sedge]

Also hoping the upcoming legion go 2 also has this version of Microsoft or steam os as well

[fresh timber]

u can install steam os on anything now

[lone mango]

Still, you should plug in the power for the gpu anyway

[fresh timber]

.. i asked that earlier

[opaque sedge]

Oh yeah i heard the newest version right

[fresh timber]

yeah

[lone mango]

True but it got aired

[fresh timber]

just get a windows handheld and install steamos if u want

[opaque sedge]

I had to roll back cuz it caused audio issues in some games

Also abt to rma my deck cuz of the left trackpad haptics

[fresh timber]

idk what i want

[opaque sedge]

Its loud and annoying to ignore

[fresh timber]

im asking my parents for a MINI led monitor until i come up with more dumb crap i want

[misty sparrow]

just do what I do and say you don't want anything

[slate ice]

Ah mb…thought you said psu not gpu

[fresh timber]

that works for birthdya not christmas

my mom has the NEED to buy me something

its weird

[opaque sedge]

Want to play arcady indie games with great artstyle steam deck oled, wanna play heavy high fidelity games wait for the next gen of handhelds

[fresh timber]

not really

i dont play those

i play shooters

[opaque sedge]

The latter?

Oh shooters…

[slate ice]

I need pci-e cable?

I can’t find it

[opaque sedge]

Multiplayer ones would likely need windows

[lone mango]

Also labeled vga

[fresh timber]

yeah i need windows for fornite atleast

[opaque sedge]

Cuz anti cheat and linux are like oil and water

[fresh timber]

yup

and i keep telling people linux isnt good enough

[slate ice]

Vga ah ok

[fresh timber]

they say: dont play bad games

yeah ignore 90% of the market

:p

[lone mango]

Kinda true

[opaque sedge]

Yeah the xbox ally would prolly workout for u lol

[fresh timber]

im hoping it sgood

id get it

[lone mango]

Somewhat true*

[fresh timber]

ooo i should try ram OC

[opaque sedge]

I’m hoping it has easy moddability so if u get it u can easily change the sticks for magnetic ones

[fresh timber]

ima keep the sticks until they break

most id mod is the Storage

[opaque sedge]

Steam deck like modularity would be cool almost everything inside it is modular

[fresh timber]

i think im more happy with a laptop

im getting a core ultra 9 laptop hopefully

[slate ice]

Do these both need plugged in to gpu?

[lone mango]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

if the gpu has two jsut put two

[opaque sedge]

Good news it uses the regular size nvme drive 2280 iirc so u could find good ones for a good price easily

[fresh timber]

pog

im prob goign to get a laptop anyways

[opaque sedge]

Unlike the steam deck which uses those hyper expensive small ones

[fresh timber]

laptop makes more sense to me

laptop with same or similar performance? yes please

[slate ice]

Idk how this will fit back to power though

[opaque sedge]

Prolly since u wanna play shooters

[fresh timber]

yeah

im getting a thunderbolt 4 laptop so ill dock my 9070xt

im getting a thunderbolt 4 dock ima use at my dads house

[slate ice]

This is the cable

2 of these need to fit in the gpu?

[lone mango]

Yeah the pigtail end is for the card

[fresh timber]

the cpu oc did me WONDERS in marvel rivals bro

im getting ALOT more than before

[opaque sedge]

What resolution do u play in?

[fresh timber]

1440p

i was getting 100-120fps

at 4.5ghz im getting closer to 200

[opaque sedge]

Damn so ur bottlenecked

[icy ore]

I overlocked my 9900k and still at 100% usage on Fortnite

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

and they said CPU oveclocking is dead

see what i figured out is all the info on pc building is true.. unless u use stupid hardware combos

bottlenecks do exist

[lone mango]

It depends on the configuration, but yeah its not as crazy as it used to be

[slate ice]

Who tf designed this cable man

[fresh timber]

pciesig

[slate ice]

It’s impossible to get some of these in

[lone mango]

If it was like back then, you would probably be able to eliminate your bottleneck entirely

[fresh timber]

are u putting it in right...

[slate ice]

You need surgeon dexterity

[lone mango]

Are you talking about the pigtail part

[slate ice]

Especially for some of the pin cables

[fresh timber]

dont do that

[slate ice]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

seperate cables

i mean im using a pigtail adapter for mines but still

dont do that

[slate ice]

This fker

[lone mango]

Yeah bend the cable more so it stays bent and then put in one of the two connectors

Expect to press the 2 and 6 pin together pretty hard because the stiff cables are gonna fight what you're doing

[slate ice]

They couldn’t just make it 1 piece?

Had to split it to 2?

[lone mango]

Not all cards have 8 pin connectors

Some have 6 although its pretty uncommon today

[slate ice]

Ah haha

[fresh timber]

im getting more fps than before

cloud...

atleast a solid 40 more

[lone mango]

100w

Well at least the frame rate is still high

[fresh timber]

my 1% lows counter broke

but

[fresh timber]

honestly i bet increasing my PL did most this

[lone mango]

Least efficient amd card

[opaque sedge]

@fresh timber vex if u had this issue would u rma it? Left trackpad haptics are annoyingly loud and interfere with gaming experience

Alr started an rma request but this is the first time i’ve done one on any electronic

[rancid juniper]

whats a good cheap mouse that can both be plugged and have BT capabilities?

my current mouse is due for a replacement

[lone mango]

pulsar x2h

[rancid juniper]

maybe keeb too

alr imma check

[opaque sedge]

Really hope some ups or fedex worker doesn’t steal it when i ship it back to valve

[lone mango]

Oh wait nvm

I was thinking of the wired one

[rancid juniper]

thats...

thats not cheap

lmfao

[lone mango]

I misremembered

[opaque sedge]

Keychron has a decent mouse i believe

[rancid juniper]

ah

checking

[lone mango]

Its because the wired one can be disconnected

But no bt

[rancid juniper]

😩

[lone mango]

But it having the disconnected cable made me think it was

[opaque sedge]

Not sure abt mouse specs tbh but i remember the buildapc server glazing them as a good budget wireless option

https://www.keychron.com/collections/mice-collection

But that was half a year ago

Other good ones may have come out since

[rancid juniper]

i want it all

😂

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

test match

and i got this

[rancid juniper]

fartron

I mean ultron

[fresh timber]

extermination

i did better than warlock

[opaque sedge]

U checking the keychron one?

[rancid juniper]

yea

price is a bit high tho

but the options is exactly what im looking for

[opaque sedge]

Tell me if it looks good been wanting a wireless mouse as well

[opaque sedge]

Oh which one?

[fresh timber]

coompooper

how did i do better than my dps

??

im a healer

[rancid juniper]

looking at the M3 atm

[rancid juniper]

because they keep chasing for KOs

[lone mango]

fr

2nd highes damage

[opaque sedge]

The 8k polling rate option right?

[rancid juniper]

looking at your final hits it seems you just third partied in idk

but at a distance

[rancid juniper]

yyuh

[fresh timber]

i mean im ultron i sit in back healing and killing

[opaque sedge]

Damn no rgb i’m intrigued

[rancid juniper]

tbh i dont even know what polling rate does

XD

[fresh timber]

kidna my job to do that

[fresh timber]

FR

HOW did i out damange you too

[rancid juniper]

so Ultron is not classified as a strategist right?

[fresh timber]

okay sure i 3rd partied but.. DAMANGE???

i belive he is

yup he is

[rancid juniper]

ok

[opaque sedge]

Apparently sends more data for updates on input

[rancid juniper]

so the higher the polling rate the better?

[opaque sedge]

Higher the polling rate the smoother the input gets translated i assume

[rancid juniper]

The cpu:

[fresh timber]

ur cpu will be high

u dont need more than 1000

[opaque sedge]

Prolly latency matters as well

[rancid juniper]

hmm ic ic

[lone mango]

No bro the mouse autists say the 8k dongle make such a difference

Bro please spend extra $20

[fresh timber]

I’m liking the 5500 more now

All AMD had to do was run it at a higher clock soeed

Massive gains

[lone mango]

Did you do pbo +200

[opaque sedge]

Damn the 1000hz version has good numbers it seems

[fresh timber]

Yes didn’t hold up on multicore

[rancid juniper]

CPU is gonna get fried yo

[fresh timber]

So my cpu runs 4.5ghz 24/7 now

[lone mango]

Thats just mouse sens

[fresh timber]

I wouldn’t dare static oc my intel rig tho

[rancid juniper]

wow BT is quite slow

any opinions on RED DRAGON?

[opaque sedge]

Bt always has had issues with latency for peripherals i believe

[rancid juniper]

well thats sad

[opaque sedge]

8bitdo controllers have good bluetooth connections and I’m pretty sure they make mice and keyboards too

The mice dont look that ergonomic nvm 💀

https://a.co/d/164JDNi

Looks pretty nice tho on second thought

[fresh timber]

Ima make my cpu use less power

I have a few settings I think increase voltage just to increase it

[rancid juniper]

i heard mechanical keebs are good

my current keyboard works fine as ever but when im gaming and i press shift to sprint and space obviously the character doesn't jump while sprinting

theres a term for that iirc

i already forgot

[lone mango]

Keyboard ghosting

[fresh timber]

Cloud

I wish my 13600kf got these gains when oc

They are massive

[sinful blade]

https://xoticpc.com/products/automobili-lamborghini-evo-epic-ultra-50
anyone want an $8k pc?

[lone mango]

Its because of how bottlenecked you were/are

Thats why the difference is larger

[fresh timber]

Lolll

My friend has a 5600g I’m having him use my settings

[lone mango]

Cpu oc when you arent very cpu bound wont do a whole lot, it could help a little bit or just give you more headroom for upgrades

[fresh timber]

Another has 5500 but with @sinful blade gpu

He only runs 60fps on rivals

[sinful blade]

Real

[fresh timber]

Clearly gpu bound

[lone mango]

Ram oc can be basically nothing if you arent cpu bound at all

[rancid juniper]

yes that

[slate ice]

Ok so still wasn’t plugging in

[fresh timber]

I’m running 4000mt/a

[slate ice]

Sorry turning on

[fresh timber]

should i try faster ram or nah

[slate ice]

So I realized the power sw cable wasn’t plugged in

That’s it, right?

[lone mango]

Read you motherboard manual for front panel connector layout

[lone mango]

The two pin connector? yeah

[fresh timber]

its universal btw

[lone mango]

Yup

[velvet summit]

i'm using the m6 and it's great

it's pretty much a ripoff of the mx master but improved imo

[slate ice]

Is it in the correct slot?

[velvet summit]

people say it feels cheaper

[fresh timber]

try it and see idk

[velvet summit]

but it doesnt have the terrible "soft touch" coating that wears off after a year or 2

[sinful blade]

Universal in the EU and US
Some Chinese boards don’t have this same layout

[velvet summit]

only valid complaint i've seen of it is the scrollwheel being loud

[fresh timber]

doesnt sound like they are following the ATX spec

[velvet summit]

the atx spec doesnt specify a specific front panel pinout

[rancid juniper]

might get membrane keyboards instead, could get annoyed by the audible taps

[fresh timber]

get my keybord, its very quiet

[lone mango]

gamakay keyboards

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[rancid juniper]

gamakayeeeeeeee

[fresh timber]

so everyone just came toghter and agreed on a layoung to the point cases come with a unified one

[rancid juniper]

better not be expensive 🗿

[sinful blade]

Yup

[velvet summit]

i dont know why they haven't updated it to have it be a requirement but they should

[fresh timber]

ehh why

everyone just agreeded to it

[fresh timber]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DB1YLSVR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

not expensive

[velvet summit]

it's more or less a silent agreement

[fresh timber]

expensive in keyboards is $300

[lone mango]

gamakay saves the day

[rancid juniper]

MY GUY IM A BROKIE IM NOT PAYING 99 FOR A KEEB

[fresh timber]

thats cheap

...

[lone mango]

https://a.co/d/acXdl5d

[rancid juniper]

🫠

[lone mango]

Oh this is v2

[lone mango]

I think the older one is cheaper

[rancid juniper]

no numpad + over $50 eh

[fresh timber]

who wants a numpad

numpad is ew

[lone mango]

You are paying for the construction

It has padding and special switches

And a knob

[random osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/knob-dial-temp-temperature-thermostat-gif-5445371

[rancid juniper]

numpad slander will not be tolerated

[sinful blade]

@lone mango OI, let’s not say that

[fresh timber]

numpad sucks

[lone mango]

Lol that wasnt that bad

But ok

It is true tho

[rancid juniper]

😡

[opaque sedge]

Might wanna check out keychron again lol

They’re prolly not the best value for money but i think the provide good value nonetheless

[lone mango]

Idk about outemu switches but they still should be relatively quiet
https://a.co/d/i4NccEV

[rancid juniper]

Im slightly leaning towards reddragon here but imma look...

[slate ice]

Ok I’m at a loss, I’ve tried everything

[opaque sedge]

Their website seems to have a 10 buck discount code popup too

[rancid juniper]

im not some keeb nerd bruh but i appreciate the recommendations nonetheless

[slate ice]

Still won’t start

[lone mango]

They finally sell it on amazon

They are growing their amazon store

[lone mango]

Did you see the last one I sent

Under 50

[rancid juniper]

wait send again?

[lone mango]

here

[rancid juniper]

looks like something you'd see from 1995

[lone mango]

The one with gamakays own silent switches is 70

[lavish stag]

is the 9060 xt solid in 1440p high

[rancid juniper]

hehe

[lone mango]

True but it still looks good

[rancid juniper]

iirc its around 7700xt perf

so maybe

[lone mango]

There is the black and yellow option too

[rancid juniper]

depends on the game though

[lavish stag]

gotcha

[rancid juniper]

but it can do 1440p

[lone mango]

Welcome back 7700 xt

[rancid juniper]

16GB edition

[lavish stag]

i was thinking about selling my 6650xt for it

[rancid juniper]

lol

[lone mango]

Big upgrade

[rancid juniper]

good upgrade

[lavish stag]

hype

[opaque sedge]

Maybe not high in the latest games

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

JUST make sure to get the 16gb version

[slate ice]

Anyone see any reason why this won’t start?

[rancid juniper]

buy it

[opaque sedge]

Keyboard itself looks pretty good ngl

[lone mango]

It looks incredible

[opaque sedge]

Would reply to cloud but he has me blocked 💀

[rancid juniper]

whats the diagnostics on that? You should check the debug lights (if there is any) and check the manual

[lone mango]

I am not sure if powersw is in the right spot

[rancid juniper]

lmfao why?

what did u do?

[slate ice]

It is, I just took everything out to plug it in

[opaque sedge]

It was apparently cuz of those particular jokes i was obsessed with

[rancid juniper]

oh

[pseudo raven]

what jokes

[rancid juniper]

i get it

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[rancid juniper]

DESERVED

[pseudo raven]

i dont

spit it out

[rancid juniper]

😂

[lavish stag]

ofcc

[slate ice]

I have no idea. What diagnostics without power?

[lavish stag]

8gb for 1440p is a joke

[opaque sedge]

What jokes he says…

THEY WERE EVERYTHING

[rancid juniper]

newer boards usually have debug lights where they flash white red or whatever color

[opaque sedge]

U read the mobo manual yet?

[rancid juniper]

usually those colors indicate whats going on as described in the manual such as:
Ram Problems
CPU Problems
GPU Problems

[slate ice]

I’ve read it from the start

[lavish stag]

yo its 350 at my microcenter

[opaque sedge]

It should have a diagnostics section

No chance u missed it

[opaque sedge]

Damn msrp is nice

[pseudo raven]

or just search up your motherboard online

should be able to find it that way too

[lavish stag]

its so weird to see a gpu at msrp

[pseudo raven]

at microcenter?

[lone mango]

Nah he has it in the right spot

[pseudo raven]

for the first week or two nah

[lone mango]

There are 5 pins at the bottom

[pseudo raven]

then the rebates fall off

[opaque sedge]

Damn i almost sounded like a pcmr hardass

[rancid juniper]

🔥

[opaque sedge]

I am becoming the very thing i loathe..

[upper wedge]

@slate ice is the power on?

[lavish stag]

what's the longest time you guys have used a gpu for?

[pseudo raven]

3 years

4

i mean

[lone mango]

4 years

[opaque sedge]

Powercolor and asrock my goats now

[lavish stag]

yes

[slate ice]

Nope

[rancid juniper]

@lavish stag I suggest you watch these benchmarks before you ultimately make a decision: https://youtu.be/-LAH5vh-Cpg?si=NOmDvvxLhHfcpTbg
https://youtu.be/_oV9TKa5wIM?si=BfM5wnoQCKFNmDdE https://youtu.be/3oTMRmxeMMk?si=4F04cr5UcG-N74HE

[opaque sedge]

Really wish the challenger model was similar to the intel version

[slate ice]

I’m trying to do the bare minimum to get it on

[lavish stag]

was using a 980 ti for 6 years myself lol

[slate ice]

But seems I’m missing something

[lavish stag]

ty

[rancid juniper]

np

[slate ice]

It should really be on 😂 I have no clue

[opaque sedge]

Asus gigabyte and xfx get a participation award

[upper wedge]

Check if it’s switched on or not

[opaque sedge]

No well priced 9070xts tho

[slate ice]

Is there any other thing besides both power cables, gpu power cable, powersw cord?

[upper wedge]

@slate ice by chance in the top left of your motherboard, is the CPU 8 pin plugged in?

[slate ice]

Cause all of that is in

Yes

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[upper wedge]

That’s plugged in?

[fresh timber]

…

[opaque sedge]

Just saw that…

[fresh timber]

…

I’m going to face palm

[opaque sedge]

😭

[fresh timber]

Why is their no cooler

[upper wedge]

Ah alright

[upper wedge]

He removed it

[fresh timber]

Oh

Ok good

[rancid juniper]

mario 3d from unreal

[upper wedge]

Is everything connected to the psu?

[opaque sedge]

Dont persona games use unreal as well now lol

[rancid juniper]

yes

[upper wedge]

Persona 5 phantom X 🤧

Just make persona 6

[opaque sedge]

They confirmed p4 remake today

Called it revival

[upper wedge]

😭

Dear god

[opaque sedge]

Yk what should be revived

[upper wedge]

Don’t do it

[opaque sedge]

My freedom to make those jokes

[fresh timber]

UE5 Isn’t a bad engine, it’s just bad development

[opaque sedge]

Oh wait btw where is ur dp cable connected to?

The gpu or the mobo io?

[lone mango]

Is the psu power cable 100% in there? sometimes it can have some more room to go in further

[upper wedge]

Sore I think it’s not starting

Not it not displaying

So basically no boot

[slate ice]

Dp cable?

[upper wedge]

I could be wrong

[opaque sedge]

The lights arent coming up in the mobo?

[opaque sedge]

Display port cable

The one u connect ur monitor with to ur pc

[upper wedge]

Or HDMI

[fresh timber]

It shouldn’t matter with am5 unless 7500f

[opaque sedge]

Thats the power

[lone mango]

Look at that psu switch

[upper wedge]

Is your pc not booting or displaying

[opaque sedge]

My god

[lone mango]

Or wait is that 0rpm fan mode on the right

[fresh timber]

That looks like fan mode

[fresh timber]

He can’t get a post

[slate ice]

I think my psu is upside down

[upper wedge]

No display then?

[slate ice]

Just noticed that

[fresh timber]

Not a problem rn

[lone mango]

I thought he said no power at all

[upper wedge]

It’s meant to be

[slate ice]

No power at all

Nothing changes upon switching

[lavish stag]

700-800W psu reccomendations under 80?

[lone mango]

Thats gonna be tough

[lavish stag]

aw

what about 100

[upper wedge]

Refurbished 750e on corsairs website

[lavish stag]

SMort

[upper wedge]

69.99

[opaque sedge]

Nah steam deck

Jk

Most people dont have enough patience to tinker around with proton and stuff even tho its much better now i have barely had to tinker with proton or launch options for most games

But cant argue against the convenience of consoles like Nintendo the games are just plug n play

[lavish stag]

evga site down for mateinance

[proud jackal]

[upper wedge]

Corsair’s

[lavish stag]

im trying to check if the corsair fits lol

[upper wedge]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/certified-refurbished/cp-9020262-na-rf/rme-series-rm750e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-refurbished-cp-9020262-na-rf

Are you doing a small build or?

[lavish stag]

looking to replace my non-modular psu. I think my psu might be cooked. My 6650xt only draws 130W max and 142W when I increase the power to 10% at 100% utilization

[fresh timber]

You have to pay for the upgraded graphics

No thanks

[lone mango]

Guess what 10% of 130 is

[lavish stag]

13W

[lone mango]

What wattage is it

[lavish stag]

anyway tho, the rated max wattage is ~180W and it never gets near there

[lone mango]

Yes and thats why it goes to 142/143

[lavish stag]

yeah i expected that

[lone mango]

I think it depends on the model of card. Some have higher power targets

[lavish stag]

shouldn't it be able to go up to 180W if the manufactuer lists up to that

i see

[lone mango]

Unless 180 is really what it is supposed to do

You need some kind of reference to see if you are getting way worse performance

[lone mango]

This guy has a card at 165

[lavish stag]

when i run passmark, it does perform about average tho

i guess its fine then

[upper wedge]

Duck what’s wrong with your psu or what so?

[lone mango]

Yeah so its the oc models drawing more power then

[lavish stag]

oh gotcha

[fresh timber]

Waffles

[lavish stag]

i was thinking my current psu is limiting the power draw of my gpu

[proud jackal]

clean the pan bro

[lone mango]

[lavish stag]

how many did u burn

[lone mango]

What wattage

[lavish stag]

700W

[lone mango]

Lol you are good

[fresh timber]

No

Flavor

[upper wedge]

WOOT TIME

WOOT TIME

[lavish stag]

cool thx

[upper wedge]

Apple Mac Mini MMFJ3LL/A (2023) - $369.99 - Free shipping for Prime members https://computers.woot.com/offers/apple-mac-mini-mmfj3ll-a-2023z?utm_medium=share&utm_source=app

Meh

Woot is kinda bad today

[fresh timber]

Woot

[fresh timber]

@craggy shoal u need another one

[craggy shoal]

I don't want an M2

[fresh timber]

Why

[craggy shoal]

M4 is better

[fresh timber]

i want to swap to am5 again

sell my motherboard, ram, and cpu swap to am5

id sell it for $300

or $400

probably 400

@lone mango i might swap to am5 only if i can break even with it

[upper wedge]

Lowkey I was told not to swap to am5 cause of am6 or whatever

But I need to get rid of the ddr4

[fresh timber]

im only doing it if it cost me $0

[upper wedge]

Also is $700 for a 7900xtx worth of should I just buy a 9070xy

[fresh timber]

keep 7800xt

perfect card

[lone mango]

Idk if you will

Youll most likely be down

[fresh timber]

if i can get $300 for it i can ge close

if i include ram i can get $350

[lone mango]

Yeah down just a little bit

[upper wedge]

I need performance:(

[fresh timber]

they told me to keep my 7700xt

dont be like me

and buy newer

[upper wedge]

Ya I mean new GPUs dropping every year

[lone mango]

Wtf 9600x $197

[upper wedge]

Not mouth we can do

[upper wedge]

AM6 signs 💔

[lone mango]

What

Itll be a while until zen 6

[fresh timber]

id go for a 9800x3d if i had the funds

i mean i will

i could deadass upgrade to 9800x3d soon

....

ehh ima use my money to sell pcs

[lone mango]

Honestly not much cheaper than my itx upgrade

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K3grC8

Atx boards at 150 are asrock

i have vsoc locked and an undervolt so im probably ok

but still

[hoary zodiac]

welp

guess that's another year

[fresh timber]

what that sir boomer

[hoary zodiac]

Among Us update

[fresh timber]

oo

[pseudo raven]

it usually is

[fresh timber]

Ohhh guardiannnnnn

[lone mango]

Ok so I ordered the sf750 for 115 and then there is a bid that ends in 3 days

at $18 rn

Great

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm

[fresh timber]

@idle nexus what’s that the rgb ring

[mental yoke]

oof i hate auctions

but you can make out

sometimes

[lone mango]

Should I cancel my order and see if I can get it for cheaper

Idk shipping is more with this bid listing

Assuming is a little cheaper I would be paying the difference with shipping

Maybe its not worth it ig

[slate ice]

My pc is up and running

[lone mango]

[slate ice]

Got into a game - super choppy and low fps

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

Did you install amd drivers

[slate ice]

Updated drivers…still no

Also the audio is off so I must have missed another cable

I never did find homes for these

[fresh timber]

@lone mango I was running 1.5v 😭😭 I made it ru. Lower

[lone mango]

Wtf

[fresh timber]

Yeah

No wonder it ran so hot

And 1.3 isn’t stable

Sad

[slate ice]

Any ideas?

I’m getting 50-70 fps

Something definitely off

[lone mango]

Are you maybe using the integrated gpu?

Where is the display plugged into

[fresh timber]

I am answer that for you

[lone mango]

It only says radeon graphics on the right. aint it supposed to say the name of thecard

[slate ice]

The back of the tower

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

In the motherboard?

[fresh timber]

I just killed this

[slate ice]

So the display has to go directly into gpu?

[exotic ingot]

y'all wanna see something horrific?

[slate ice]

What is the issue?

[fresh timber]

Yes

[fresh timber]

If that was a 3090 it might have been worth

[slate ice]

Ahhh

There we go, nice

[fresh timber]

That’s why ur fps sucks

You shouldn’t have to turn the pc off to swap

[slate ice]

Yeah its working

Looks great

Now to fix the sound…

It’s like a really muted audio

[lone mango]

HD audio header is located typically in the bottom left corner of the board

[slate ice]

I get 500 fps now lmao

Damn thats so much better

I was at 100 on my old pc

Nutty

[mental yoke]

overclock and get 501

[slate ice]

Do you know what the cable looks like?

I don’t remember anything labeled audio

[slate ice]

I think I had that plugged, I’ll double check though

Still using this mini case and can’t move anything easily

This?

@lone mango

[lone mango]

Yeah at the top of the picture

multi color cable

[slate ice]

It’s in there

In game sound sounds fine - but music or browser sound is weird

[fresh timber]

What specs you buy

[fresh timber]

I just went back to a good pbo

Cause it kept using 1.5v and I wasn’t going to play with it

Idk why it runs a lot better with barley any clock speed

But oh well

You know what it could be, the power limit

[mental yoke]

i should put a clock over my computer so i can talk about my over clock

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/trails-kiseki-azure-campanella-gaming-gif-10813742874960234472

[slate fractal]

that might work for me since my dell mobo cant overclock

[slate ice]

So the headphone jack in the front of my tower caused the muffled sound

The back mobo jack works fine

Now I’m just tuning settings in Adrenalin

When I leave uncapped fps I get lag spikes

Any settings I should try?

[mental yoke]

the beautiful thing is you can try all the settings

[slate ice]

My gpu hitting 55c playing league of legends

Good or bad?

[mental yoke]

if its working its good

[slate ice]

😂

I paid a lot for this rig

Hoping for pretty good numbers

[craggy shoal]

You shouldn't have to worry at all if your GPU is only hitting 55C. 55C is a lot of people's GPU's idle temperature (these people usually don't care to setup fan curves)

[frigid stag]

League is basically idle

[craggy shoal]

Cheap route: get a 3.5mm extension cable and route it to the 3.5mm in the back of your PC

Expensive route: get a DAC

[frigid stag]

5% gpu usage

[atomic current]

temperature is a social construct

[frigid stag]

That’s what they want you to think

[upper rain]

F and C pretty much are

kelvin has a rational zero point whereas fahrenheit and celsius are more callibrated towards useful points for humans

it's why you can't take 100c and 120c and say that one is 20% hotter than the other

[slate ice]

I don’t think I properly set up the tower fans. They aren’t turning at all.

[mental yoke]

by big hydrodynamics

dang you entropic systems

:shakefist:

[remote geode]

okay quick question — 32TB SAS for $300 worth?

[mental yoke]

no

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleto-skeleton-fire-hell-burn-gif-26129219

[slate ice]

Hmm but why isn’t the front jack working?

[remote geode]

why not

[mental yoke]

cus value is determined by you

[slate ice]

You would be at 5% playing league?

[frigid stag]

Yes

Around that

[craggy shoal]

I just wouldn't bother with the front jack. It always sounds bad no matter what you do (this is due to EMF and other internal electronics causing interference with the audio cable itself, etc. It's all analog, so this is natural. This is also why the rear will always sound better)

[slate ice]

Ah ok

And the tower fans? What does the cable for them usually look like?

I just built the pc this weekend, 1st time

[craggy shoal]

Tower fans?

Fans generally either a three- or four-pin connector. Photos exist on Google

[worthy tapir]

Guys I got the Wawa Jawns

[mental yoke]

yea noone uses the front headphone jack

literally trash

[craggy shoal]

Yeah. It's hard to complain though, it's just a physics thing

[mental yoke]

physics is a good catch all for everything in life

[slate ice]

I bought a extender

Either of these for towers?

Fans

[mental yoke]

can you explain why u keep saying towers

like in the case fans?

[slate ice]

The fans that come with the tower

Yeah

[mental yoke]

left is rgb header

rgb usually rounded

[slate ice]

Those fans do connect, right?

[mental yoke]

just put the thing onto the mobo bro

[slate ice]

I couldn’t find the correct pins

Bro

[remote geode]

one is the rgb/argb header, this is for the coloured lights of your fan. idk which one this is, look it up online

the second one seems more like the fan pins — seems like your fan is a non-pwm fan since it only has 2 pins

[slate ice]

2nd one okay

I’ll try to find the pins

[remote geode]

check your motherboard manual and you'll see the pin outs of your motherboard

on my MSI motherboard, on the manual, it says CPU_FAN. So I'd recommend for you to look at your motherboard manual online

[slate ice]

I’ve been flipping through it but there’s a lot of detail

I’ve seen that port as well on mine

[remote geode]

what's this motherboard

[tranquil pebble]

way more prone to electromagnetic interference due to being routed so close to internal components I would think

With the audio chip generally at the back of the mobo... yeah

[mental yoke]

Wow

[atomic current]

sorry guys the spike was my fault

didn't mean to

[slate ice]

Dang lol

Yall not doing so hot

@remote geode https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

Should I buy now for the next spike?

[rigid sinew]

good morning !

[pliant berry]

Morn

[tranquil pebble]

hi

[remote geode]

I don't think Newegg or anyone here can give you financial advice

[slate ice]

But you’re tech geeks

Sorry tech bros

[remote geode]

there's... a difference

[slate ice]

Oh

[remote geode]

also, don't rely on strangers on the internet to provide you financial advice

seek professional advice

[paper verge]

especially weggerz bro

[tranquil pebble]

beyond "do not set your money on fire" because that is obvious

[royal crow]

There go my plans for the day

[paper verge]

lmfao

[remote geode]

aye carumba

did you really check the manual

it's on the 5th page

[tranquil pebble]

not my pic, but lol

[remote geode]

I would want that

[tranquil pebble]

the router itself probably isnt very good, would be my worry

[remote geode]

it's probably overpriced as well

[tranquil pebble]

that is the part about not being very good...

[slate ice]

I feel judged

[tranquil pebble]

a router that is bad at $200 is not necessarily bad at $100

[slate ice]

Yall are supposed to be professionals

[paper verge]

wrong server dude

[slate ice]

I’ll have to check you on page 5

Seems sus to me

[remote geode]

Its only Wifi 6

[paper verge]

im soo tired of people using wifi versions as metrics

like who cares

[remote geode]

I personally do so I use it

[paper verge]

if im in wifi 6 range im using lan, and other than that im on 2.4ghz

[remote geode]

if it doesn't apply to you, then, it's non-applicable

[nocturne flicker]

We are?