general-chat

[opaque sedge]

🫃

[fresh timber]

why is no man sky still on fsr2

[opaque sedge]

Ur ps5 is on fsr1 i believe

[fresh timber]

LMFAO

WTF

[opaque sedge]

Autocorrect

I swear

[misty sparrow]

What did he originally say

I missed it

[opaque sedge]

Belong

[fresh timber]

i turned xess into fsr 3

[opaque sedge]

Instead of believe

[fresh timber]

now we wait for vulkan to get fsr 4 support

amd forgot about vulkan]

[opaque sedge]

Amd never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity

[fresh timber]

fsr 4 is never commming to rdna3 until they change how they upscale lol

[hoary zodiac]

please don't do that to rdna3

[fresh timber]

rdna3 ai cores does not have the physical capability to run fsr4, it cat even run it terribly

[hoary zodiac]

Bungiez nuts

[fresh timber]

when upsaling becomes near perfect will you accept it as the normal

[fresh timber]

rn i cant tell im using it

[fresh timber]

this game is so good

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-hands-weird-gif-11799108

[hoary zodiac]

Peter the horse is here Peter the horse is here Peter the horse is here Peter the horse is here

[fresh timber]

did this entire server get dropped as adults

[fresh timber]

im out

[misty sparrow]

Wrong one

[fresh timber]

byeeeee'

[fresh timber]

guys no meme posting in general

common now

[hoary zodiac]

actually does that create an invite

gonna delete that

[opaque sedge]

You guys wanna see my steam deck with its case on

[lone mango]

No

[hoary zodiac]

ok good lmao

[lone mango]

I think private servers have no invite

From forwardign

[fresh timber]

ok

[fresh timber]

time to see what happens when i max fan

[opaque sedge]

What kinda server even was it that ur worried abt

[hoary zodiac]

https://media.tenor.com/twhHwqrQTRwAAAPo/rat-rat-shaking.mp4

There we go

[opaque sedge]

Bruh why does he look like he’s wearing heels

[lone mango]

Sorry

[lone mango]

Classic

[misty sparrow]

NO

WHY

[hoary zodiac]

unlucky

[lone mango]

There is a meme of her saying "Drive." and on the bottom half is the man himself driving

Those who know

its on my windows partition

[hoary zodiac]

If it exists on the internet...

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/989939979285311568/904EA205-AD04-4A00-A372-2271AD218A29-1.gif

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/pogchamp-gif-20521801

[misty sparrow]

why are we doing this to ourselves

[hoary zodiac]

DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL 🗣️ 🗣️

[hoary zodiac]

@opaque sedge

[misty sparrow]

It always comes right back to deez nuts

[misty sparrow]

I swear all of our image perms are gonna get stripped

[lone mango]

Is it over

[opaque sedge]

Ur gonna be in my shoes soon at this rate

[hoary zodiac]

https://store.bistudio.com/products/dayz-deez-beans-can

[misty sparrow]

“you know what else? de-“

[misty sparrow]

I’m done now

[hoary zodiac]

see

It's harder for me to find stuff I can send

than stuff I can't send

[opaque sedge]

Guys

Post ur favorite gaming clips instead

[misty sparrow]

Okay sure

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/ZbXmScsWndg

[misty sparrow]

Don’t have a lot but it’s something

[opaque sedge]

Alr posted mine from mhwilds but no one paid any heed to it

[opaque sedge]

Fu dude 😭

[hoary zodiac]

The jar is the prison

[misty sparrow]

This is a real screenshot wdym

I play subway surfers like this

[hoary zodiac]

whoops

wrong video

💀

[fresh timber]

IS ThAT INAPPOPRAOTE CONTENT

MODSS

[misty sparrow]

Bro

[opaque sedge]

Yup it was

[misty sparrow]

I saw that what the hell was that

[lone mango]

Lmfao

Capy army

[fresh timber]

IM REPORTING YOU

ORANGEEEEE

[hoary zodiac]

no capy on god

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-ragebait-unsuccessful-ragebait-unsuccessful-gif-15226495446096725932

[fresh timber]

https://gpuz.techpowerup.com/25/06/05/bau.png

is rebar important

[lone mango]

Somewhat

[opaque sedge]

Apparently its extra performance

[hoary zodiac]

Yes it's a crucial part in construction

[opaque sedge]

I need to turn mine on too

[lone mango]

2017 instagram meme

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/chips-potato-chips-spinning-gif-27138427

[fresh timber]

welp

they pulling a nvidia

[lone mango]

It has happemed

Speaking of med

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/ensemble-stars-enstars-hokuto-hidaka-gif-15785290885577198879

[lone mango]

Boomer in newegg chat

[hoary zodiac]

do you guys know the top level domain of algeria?

[fresh timber]

we need a new bios feature that lets the gpu send fancurve data to the motherboard

[lone mango]

We need to stop whoever is doing this

[opaque sedge]

@hoary zodiac wanna see smth wild from monster hunter wilds

[hoary zodiac]

sore

help

[opaque sedge]

Huh

With wut

[hoary zodiac]

I need to file my algerian visa

what's the top level domain

I need to type in .gov.[x]

[idle nexus]

ask Copilot

[opaque sedge]

How tf would i know 😭

[fresh timber]

ggood

imagine if bios could read gpu temptures

[fresh timber]

and have a mixed curve to mix cpu and gpu for the best fancurve

[hoary zodiac]

bruh

[fresh timber]

that happened and dude survive and shooter went to jail

[hoary zodiac]

.38 vs .44

[fresh timber]

also is this really appopraitate for egg

[opaque sedge]

4 is my lucky number

[idle nexus]

I've had this 12900K since like 2022 & only now did I finally put it in my Apex. I wonder if it'll do 8000+. I've only ever used ancient mdie on it

[fresh timber]

im going to have to call nahtaly on u

[lone mango]

Probably yeah

[hoary zodiac]

do ya feel lucky?

do ya punk?

[fresh timber]

ggoood respond to my ideaaaaaa

[opaque sedge]

Not really 💀

[idle nexus]

can just set it in afterburner ig lol

GPU has its own BIOS

[fresh timber]

yeah i knowwwww, i did it with fancontrol

[hoary zodiac]

my google isn't loading

[hoary zodiac]

god damn it

💀

just want to find the top level domain man

[fresh timber]

when either cpu or gpu gets hot the fans ramp

[opaque sedge]

Google the issue

[idle nexus]

it would be nice if they all worked together tho ya

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[fresh timber]

instead of the fans being at low rpm while gpu kills it self

[idle nexus]

I wonder if you have AMD CPU & AMD GPU if you can centralize all that

[opaque sedge]

Oh wait is theo still on btw?

[fresh timber]

yeah, cant you plug tempture probes into the motherboard and the bios reads it

[opaque sedge]

He would fosho enjoy seeing my mhwild clips

[hoary zodiac]

Theo is buying a switch 2

[idle nexus]

if you have the header ya

[hoary zodiac]

so he can run among us 2

[opaque sedge]

And pay 80 bucks for games

And cyberpunk

[idle nexus]

I think it's typically used for watercooling but I don't see why it wouldn't work the same otherwise

[fresh timber]

yeah if you have the header for it wouldnt it be cool if gpus came with a cable you plug into it that reports its temptures

[opaque sedge]

To run it in 1080p upscaled at 30 frames

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/cpp-python-cpp-harder-python-cpp-easier-python-cpp-python-gif-15298855658318086293

[fresh timber]

iv been thinking about saving up for a custom loop, then i think of the $500 i could spend elswhere

[idle nexus]

iirc some EVGA GPUs had like 1 fan header

or maybe it was just rgb

[fresh timber]

oo

[lone mango]

Python gaming

[fresh timber]

alot of rgb gpus hve rgb headers

[opaque sedge]

Man i need to figure out what i want to study

[hoary zodiac]

you can start by helping me figure out the top level domain of algeria

it's not .al

that's albania for some god damn reason

[lone mango]

.dz

[fresh timber]

im ngl this only matters in small cases, in my nv5 non of my gpus give a crap how much airflow they get.. cause 12 fans worth at low rpm is genuinly enough

[hoary zodiac]

.dz nuts

[opaque sedge]

Ar

[opaque sedge]

Have u tried ar

Also wait if ur applying for a visa why not go to a freaking embassy

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[upper wedge]

just marry me, free visa

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-sigma-erm-what-the-sigma-squidward-squidward-what-the-sigma-squidward-meme-gif-15982975298700128442

[hoary zodiac]

Is that an EVGA

[idle nexus]

my 3080ti FTW3 Ultra has 3-pin rgb & a fan header I think

[hoary zodiac]

👀

[upper wedge]

hook up thermalrights to it

[idle nexus]

lol I never used it cuz the waterblock makes it inaccessible

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-weezer-buddy-holly-rivers-cuomo-omori-weezer-gif-20795824

[fresh timber]

not me trynig to figure out how u get alphacool blocks in usa

[opaque sedge]

Is felix still gone..

[hoary zodiac]

Felix failed the counterattack

[opaque sedge]

?

[idle nexus]

performance-pcs.com

or titanrig.com

[fresh timber]

LET ME GET THIS

[opaque sedge]

Oml

That’s a whole mobo

[hoary zodiac]

Any brits in chat?

[misty sparrow]

€199 is crazy

[opaque sedge]

Nope

[fresh timber]

i want a 2080

just to do this

[hoary zodiac]

Have anyone ever been to an Arby's?

[idle nexus]

my stupid 4090 bitspower block... nvm I don't wanna think about paying for that

[opaque sedge]

Fortunately not

[hoary zodiac]

Arby's nuts

[fresh timber]

i should really wait for cheaper waterblocks

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

oh well

what am i talking about im not waterblocking for atleast another year

[opaque sedge]

@idle nexus do u have portable pcs like handhelds?

[ancient swift]

👀 handheld mentioned

[idle nexus]

damn neither performance-pcs nor titanrig really have anything rn wth

[fresh timber]

yeah its all in germany

;/

[idle nexus]

I had my nephew's ROG Ally for like a week lol

[fresh timber]

i aint importing a 9070xt waterblock

id rather loop evryting but my GPU

[opaque sedge]

They’re awesome

[opaque sedge]

What’d u think?

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/PDpHQklW6tk

[ancient swift]

I love my Steam Deck and my Legion Go lol.

[idle nexus]

it was cool but seemed bloated between windows & basically everything running through ArmouryCrape

[hoary zodiac]

GHelper fr

[dense locust]

I’m in line for switch

[ancient swift]

SteamOS can be installed on the AMD Handhelds now 😄

[opaque sedge]

Oof Yh apparently it got updated when the ally x released maybe its better now?

[idle nexus]

I probably could've put Bazzite on it but this was like in December

[opaque sedge]

valve is working on making steamos fully compatible with the ally and legion go

Recently released a version with more support for them

[pliant berry]

desktop steamos when

[opaque sedge]

Was wonky tho so i had to rollback

[ancient swift]

I installed SteamOS on a Desktop PC.

[lone mango]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryEngine

[idle nexus]

could be. Somehow he lost the charger & couldn't get into windows... I'm like... you didn't steal this right? lmao

[lone mango]

You can already do it but its pointless

[opaque sedge]

Damn bruh 💀

[ancient swift]

You can install it to a desktop. Works pretty well on my 3700x/6700xt HTPC

[fresh timber]

chat im in a pickle, idk i fi wanna sell my 7700xt too

[pliant berry]

🐒

[hoary zodiac]

SteamOS is just arch linux with everything preinstalled

[idle nexus]

I installed Bazzite but I don't have any decent AMD GPUs so didn't really try with SteamOS

[lone mango]

Not enough stuff preinstalled though

[hoary zodiac]

true

[lone mango]

It is purpose built for steam gaming

[idle nexus]

lol his family is loaded. His dad gave it to him or something I dunno

[pliant berry]

ye i only have nvidia and intel gpus

[lone mango]

Might as well get bazzite

[hoary zodiac]

you can probably customize an arch based distro

[lone mango]

Or nobara htpc

[ancient swift]

I can't use the performance monitoring thats built in, but is pretty good

[hoary zodiac]

to work exactly like steamos

[idle nexus]

but ya I ended up getting a 65w ugreen power supply & hooking up a mouse & keyboard & installing windows 11 the regular way

[fresh timber]

i have only AMD gpus

lol

[hoary zodiac]

ugreen is good and all but are their psus actually good

feels like I wouldn't trust them yet

[idle nexus]

I have two AMD GPUs but they're HD5750 & HD7970 lmao

[lone mango]

People be like im waiting for steamos not knowing its literally just linux

[fresh timber]

i kinda wana sell my 7700xt and pickup a used 2080ti or something to mess around with

[pliant berry]

I never tried amd cuz I saaw a lot of people have weird issues with the apps I use

[hoary zodiac]

prime-run %command% moment

[pliant berry]

true

I just want an excuse to wait so I don't have to figure out how to migrate all my desktop stuff

[idle nexus]

I used this one. It's my phone charger now & it blazes lol https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLGZGXMD

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if you can get a similar experience with a custom cachy install

[hoary zodiac]

do they make power strips?

[idle nexus]

tbh not sure

[hoary zodiac]

see what I want is

[idle nexus]

I use some Anker one

among others lol

[pliant berry]

I have both the 3 port and 4 port 65w GaN UGREEN chargers and they are lovely

[hoary zodiac]

a neat power solution for a crap ton of low power devices

[idle nexus]

I think the others are GE or something

[lone mango]

Cachy is #2 most installed on distrowatch

[hoary zodiac]

based?

[lone mango]

#1 mint but going down

[opaque sedge]

Any of u guys play monster hunter before?

[hoary zodiac]

I want to try to make my own custom arch install script in my free time

[idle nexus]

I've used this for almost 5 years without issues https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089SPWMW8

[fresh timber]

tell me this is a good idea

[hoary zodiac]

no

[lone mango]

Imo mint overrated, cinnamon is old

[hoary zodiac]

I said no before it loaded

after it loaded

no again

[idle nexus]

lol that's a motherboard price wth

[fresh timber]

@idle nexus have u ever delided and waterlooped a cpu

[fresh timber]

lol yup

[hoary zodiac]

you can literally get your own block CNC'd

[idle nexus]

oh just a few

[lone mango]

You can get two decent boards

[idle nexus]

I've delidded...

[opaque sedge]

2/3 of a 7800x3d price

[fresh timber]

i could get my cpu so coldddd

[hoary zodiac]

you can make your own block

for that money

[fresh timber]

i wanted to get a new aio for my pc but idk if im doing that until i sell my 2nd rig

[hoary zodiac]

you can pay to have someone make it for you

[idle nexus]

10900K, 10700KF, 11600K (but it failed & I totaled it), 12900K, G7400, 13600K, 13900KS, & 7900X3D. I'm very anti-IHS

[fresh timber]

with $600 im prob going to buy a lcd aio and save the rest

[hoary zodiac]

that thing is not worth $300

for a block alone

[idle nexus]

lol exactly

[hoary zodiac]

if it come with a radiator, fittings, pump and a res

sure $300 maybe

[lone mango]

https://www.axos-project.com/

[worn wave]

Just buy a sub $100 thermalright aio

[hoary zodiac]

I want to make a cinnamon DE arch install script

[idle nexus]

I should make a list of how to get cheapest basic waterloop

obviously it'd be soft tubing

it's funny tho

[fresh timber]

https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-ph-gef-kit360-st-dbk-diy-cooling-kit/p/N82E16835709267?gQT=1 all im sying is this

[idle nexus]

GPU blocks are insanely expensive when the GPU is relevant

after that they like give it away

my 2080ti waterblock was $26 & it's Alphacool

[fresh timber]

u cant even buy the block for mines

[hoary zodiac]

mines?

[fresh timber]

yeah mines

[hoary zodiac]

????

what like

[fresh timber]

do u not know what mines mean

[hoary zodiac]

land mines?

[fresh timber]

ur stupid

[hoary zodiac]

naval mines?

[fresh timber]

holy

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell is a "mines"

[fresh timber]

ok

[lone mango]

Has a desktop environment based on hyprland

[idle nexus]

my guess is that waterblock companies thought AMD would do its usual meh in the market so they weren't prepared lol

[fresh timber]

probably

[hoary zodiac]

does anyone have any idea what he said

[lone mango]

Instead of saying mine

Some say mines

Yeah thats mines

[hoary zodiac]

but if you view the full sentence in context

it still makes no sense

[pliant berry]

how peculiar

[hoary zodiac]

am I missing something here

[lone mango]

u cant even buy the block for mine(s)

you see

[hoary zodiac]

yeah but what is that referring to

what is "mine"

[lone mango]

his video card

[fresh timber]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-rx-9060-xt-overclock-potential-revealed-pushed-to-almost-3-5-ghz-with-less-than-200w

[nocturne flicker]

Something you yearn for

[fresh timber]

9060xt cant oc

poop card

[lone mango]

I saw this, probably his vram wasnt good

[fresh timber]

isnt it the same vram as 9070xt

same 16gb

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/and-they-call-it-a-mine-lord-of-the-rings-gimli-fellowship-of-the-ring-mines-of-moria-gif-3715726165668976204

[fresh timber]

just half the core count ish

[idle nexus]

you could just get this piece of crap https://www.amazon.com/Waterblock-Computer-Cooling-Baseboard-43mm-53mm/dp/B087CYZQ5J?s=electronics

I have two of them lmao

[hoary zodiac]

anyways, hmm

this is interesting

[lone mango]

I do not remember if they run the same speed but I would assume it does

[hoary zodiac]

however probably not the best for regular usage

[lone mango]

What I meant was that his card wasnt good at vram oc

[hoary zodiac]

WMs are different from DEs in a couple ways

[fresh timber]

yeah

[idle nexus]

I couldn't find a block for HD7970 sooo

[fresh timber]

9060xt is just a 9070xt irrc

same specs

just worst core

[lone mango]

Reminds me of old android but pc

Kinda nostalgic I like it

[hoary zodiac]

The thing with WMs is

[idle nexus]

just look at this beauty

[lone mango]

Half the core basically

[fresh timber]

i think the 9070xt should have gotten 20gb vram

[hoary zodiac]

you have to be very used to keyboard shortcuts

rather than clicking on things with your mouse

[lone mango]

Or rather, the 9070 xt is two 9060 xts

[hoary zodiac]

for it to be better than just using a DE

[fresh timber]

prtty much

is their a inbetween from 9070 and 9060xt

[hoary zodiac]

first time WM users are going to have to memorize a lot of keybinds

[fresh timber]

i feel like theirs a missing gap

[lone mango]

The way it is designed is as if it has some mouse elements to it

This isnt hyprland, its their own de based off it

[lone mango]

9070 gre

[fresh timber]

9060xt has a higher boost clock which makes sense cause its half the 9070xt but not half the performance

[hoary zodiac]

you also can't minimize windows iirc

[fresh timber]

should have made the 9070xtx 9070xt and 9070 9070 being the gre

[lone mango]

No, its because of how shaders/compute units scale

They dont scale linearly

[hoary zodiac]

window managers are a different workflow

[fresh timber]

explain to my monkey brain

[lone mango]

.

[fresh timber]

oh

9060xt has 2048 and 9070xt has 4096

[lone mango]

You get diminishing returns the more you add

[fresh timber]

excatly half lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

however this distro is good for people who want a wm solution but doesn't want to go through the shenanigans of installing i3/hyprland/sway

[lone mango]

Yeah and it has its own package manager

[fresh timber]

oh 9060xt is EXCATLY half looking at the render config

[hoary zodiac]

eh?

does it?

or is it just a pacman frontend

it'd be nice if it can install flatpaks tbh

[idle nexus]

this cheap RAM block has been in my son's PC for over a year without issues tho https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082Y6F5QK

[fresh timber]

half the cache, half the RT, have compute, does 9060xt not have tensor cores?

[lone mango]

Didnt updat it yet

[hoary zodiac]

actually hmm

[lone mango]

Looks like its own but ima dig deeper

[fresh timber]

its half the 9070xt and half the power usage

[hoary zodiac]

is there a pacman frontend that install flatpaks and aur

that'd be interesting

[fresh timber]

ur son is a lucky man

[pliant berry]

I think tensor is nvidia specific branding

[idle nexus]

it's sad tho

he doesn't appreciate it enough lol

[lone mango]

Yup 9070 is literally two navi 44s smushed together

[idle nexus]

like his RGB isn't working right & I'm like I'll change the boxes & he's like nah it doesn't bother me

[fresh timber]

what im understanding, AMD didnt have fastre so they took two of the fastest they had and put them toghter, boom faster

[idle nexus]

I'm like how dare you

[lone mango]

Yeah but they mean the same thing across all gens. They should just name it ai accelerators or something

[pliant berry]

you know how it is

[hoary zodiac]

just like CUDA

[lone mango]

It seemed like rdna 4 was a failed chiplet design so they made this as a little interim gen

Thats why there is no larger rdna 4

[fresh timber]

yeah

sounds like they wanted chiplet

[lone mango]

How will you add another navi 44

[idle nexus]

13th gen kinda sucks for direct die because iirc, the SMDs or something are too tall for a normal direct die block

[lone mango]

You are gonna have a pencil die

Impossible to cool well

[fresh timber]

what if they added three toghter :0

[idle nexus]

like you need one of those blocks where you pull the IHS off then essentially glue a coldplate on in place of it

[fresh timber]

whats stopping amd from adding more besides die size

[idle nexus]

my 12900K is like this

eh...

[lone mango]

Waiting for 40 degree hotspot delta because of the length

[fresh timber]

lol

i want

[hoary zodiac]

You're gonna regret it when thermalright starts making water bloks

[lone mango]

This is very much needed

[idle nexus]

see the IHS is a coldplate

[hoary zodiac]

They probably will that's the funny part

[idle nexus]

I think you can only get those on aliexpress iirc

they're called like iceman or something let me look

[hoary zodiac]

Thermalright is expanding into literally everything

it's only a matter of time

[fresh timber]

yeah

oml they can mnake custom looping cheap

[hoary zodiac]

The custom water cooling market is a massive premium market

[pliant berry]

anyone waiting to see noctua thermosiphon

[hoary zodiac]

thermalright can just come in and destroy the entire market

[fresh timber]

thermalright killing that market

they alr killed aio market, nobody will compete

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

with AIOs there's still competition

with custom

well

[idle nexus]

wow aliexpress is super borked for me

[hoary zodiac]

the problem with custom water cooling is the volume

the market is just not that big

[fresh timber]

themalright manufacutres all their products in their own factorys which allows them to get the cheapest prices.. they make every product them selfs besides the cases

[hoary zodiac]

for large scale custom water cooling

with thermalright's cost of production however...

[wary fjord]

too risky

[lone mango]

Wait for thermalright case

[hoary zodiac]

they can actually afford to drastically cut prices

[fresh timber]

their production cost is littrely how much it cost to maintain the factory and pay employees

[lone mango]

thermalright case thermalright case

[hoary zodiac]

unlike EKWB and Alphacool

[idle nexus]

oh maybe you can do direct die without gluing on the coldplate https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805050378107.html?utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[hoary zodiac]

sure they might not sell that much volume

but it's not going to cost them that much

relative to their competitors

[fresh timber]

but they sell them at higher prices

[hoary zodiac]

thermalright can make a decent profit

[idle nexus]

I got the EK direct die block & it was HORRIBLE

like $300 & HORRIBLE

lol

[hoary zodiac]

while undercutting the competition

[fresh timber]

thermalright selling cheap quality blocks.. rip watercooling market

[hoary zodiac]

hell

[fresh timber]

they alr make a lcd aio i want

[hoary zodiac]

they will probably drive up demand too

[fresh timber]

yeah

custom looping is now 50% cheaper? yes please

[idle nexus]

also, personal opinion but do NOT BUY EK. I HATE EK lol

[lone mango]

Custom watercooling got so expensive that people just get a thermalright aio and forget the rest

[fresh timber]

yeah

why are pump res combos so expensive

im looking for a cheap one that donest look poo

[idle nexus]

find EPDM tubing instead of paying for ZMT

[hoary zodiac]

it costs too much

it's a niche market

[lone mango]

Or go air cooling because of how competitive it got

[hoary zodiac]

not enough demand

[fresh timber]

seperate pump res

easy

nvm more money in fittings

[idle nexus]

this would be good enough I bet & it's buy it now for $35 lol https://www.ebay.com/itm/256956126713

[hoary zodiac]

wdym competitive

the competition is thermalright and thermalright

[fresh timber]

thick rad

[idle nexus]

Heatkiller IV Pro is a great waterblock imo

[fresh timber]

ggood thick rad or thin rad

[hoary zodiac]

Noctua can't even compete in the traditional sense

they have to stick to their premium market

to be fair Noctua's never really competed

They're in their own price bracket

[idle nexus]

the thicker the better ig but unless you're only going to use one rad, thick isn't really necessary

also thicker rad means fans gotta blow harder

[hoary zodiac]

Good for them because ironically Noctua's the least affected out of all the cooling brands

[idle nexus]

okay go to ebay

[lone mango]

Prob gonna need push pull for that

[idle nexus]

& find performance-pcs's clearance

[fresh timber]

this is how much it owuld cost me with out optmizing

[hoary zodiac]

With Noctua you actually have a reason to buy it

[fresh timber]

why

[hoary zodiac]

with everything else

[idle nexus]

they take offers on everything

[hoary zodiac]

just buy thermalright

[fresh timber]

i can buy thermalright for cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

acoustics

Noctua's acoustics is top notch

you can't beat them

[fresh timber]

thermalright cooler, slap noctuah fan on it, also i think they have been beaten

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[lone mango]

They make every fan have slightly different harmonics to avoid resonance in the case

[fresh timber]

pretty sure this beats a noctuah

[hoary zodiac]

Noctua optimises the hell out of every aspect of the design

[lone mango]

They are pure autists

This is good

[hoary zodiac]

not in acoustics

you don't buy noctua for performance alone

[fresh timber]

my pcis quiet

my pc is dead silent with $10 thermalrights

[lone mango]

Bequiet is pretty good

Pure wings 3 is pretty good

[idle nexus]

https://www.ebay.com/str/ppcsclearance

[fresh timber]

i just have 12 fans in my pc running insanly low RPMS i can get away with 600rpm under a gaming load and have amazing temps

only fan i hear is the PSU

[fresh timber]

oh shoot they have everything

[hoary zodiac]

With noctua you can run 1200RPM for the same acoustic performance

Max airflow for minimum noise

[idle nexus]

make sure you DO NOT get ALUMINUM radiators

[fresh timber]

but do u need the 1200rpm

[idle nexus]

supposedly it's a nightmare

[lone mango]

Probably not

[fresh timber]

i guess it all depends on ur use case

[hoary zodiac]

if you don't you're not the target consumer

Noctua is a premium market

[fresh timber]

im not, i can ge good temps with my cheap ahh fans

[lone mango]

There is such thing as too much airflow/fans

[hoary zodiac]

it doesn't compete with the other cooling brands

[fresh timber]

fr?

[hoary zodiac]

that's the point I've been trying to make for the last 10 minutes

[fresh timber]

idk how to add more fans

[hoary zodiac]

Noctua is a different market all together

it's not really that comparable

[idle nexus]

btw they also have a real website not just ebay lol https://www.performance-pcs.com/

[hoary zodiac]

you buy thermalright for a good price/perf fan

you buy noctua for perf/acoustic

[idle nexus]

they have so much crap on that website that you could spend like 3 days on it ez

[hoary zodiac]

different goals

entirely different use cases

[fresh timber]

12 fans

does noctuah have reverse blade

[hoary zodiac]

Noctua's fans are amazing from an engineering perspective

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

but does the average consumer need an noctua? no? it's not their market

[fresh timber]

noctuah doesnt have reveres blades, slop

[fresh timber]

in my opinion noctuahs real market is in less than 120mm fan sizes

[misty sparrow]

Hope you enjoy it but uh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841075298195472434/1097861481997017139/D5DF3C8E-CDFF-4B1C-B506-A865B8009383.gif

[hoary zodiac]

your opinion is noted

[fresh timber]

im not sure if i need a 92mm or 80mm fa for my ancient case

[idle nexus]

also, get D5 pump not DDC. I dunno why but lol

[fresh timber]

but these fans are amazing

[nocturne flicker]

Your opinion has been noted and discarded

[idle nexus]

I have one of those lol

[lone mango]

Can noctua make white fans

Thanks

[fresh timber]

small fans have to spin really fast to get good airflow, so it only make sense to go noctuah

[idle nexus]

there's a gray version that's less Noctua looking

[hoary zodiac]

Please stop calling it noctuah

[fresh timber]

im a aio user if the cooler cost $10

noctuah

[lone mango]

So true

[nocturne flicker]

What use do I have for a 92mm fan

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/ჯოკერი-joker-gif-21710475

[lone mango]

cooler master nr200

[idle nexus]

you can get a pump & a reservoir is as cheap as like $15

[fresh timber]

ur case only has a spot for a 92mm..

[hoary zodiac]

SFF

[fresh timber]

im not joking

i have a case that only fits 92mm or 80mm not sure and i need to figure out which one

[nocturne flicker]

Good thing I don't waste money on SFF when I have plenty of room for normal, not specially marked up products

[fresh timber]

im not using sff

and i need it

[lone mango]

That looks liek 92

[fresh timber]

i need

[nocturne flicker]

Bro actually building in an OEM frame

[fresh timber]

the only decently piced noctuah fan

[sinful blade]

Looks like a terrible version of my stacker

[hoary zodiac]

Guess the Noctua dB

[fresh timber]

chromeax

[fresh timber]

i wanna see 3rd party testing

[fresh timber]

and at lower rpms

[lone mango]

Am5 itx boards are pretty brutal for some reason

[fresh timber]

fr

[lone mango]

I guess am5 itx aint that big rn

[hoary zodiac]

at lower RPMs the noctuas are probably going to destroy them harder

[lone mango]

But the psus I agree with

[fresh timber]

800rpm

i wanna see 800rpm test

[lone mango]

sfx psus are brutal

[nocturne flicker]

If I am screwing around with an OEM case I ain't actually spending money on new everything

[hoary zodiac]

from a pure acoustic perspective noctuas are stupid

they're really damn optimised

[lone mango]

corsair sf750 is like 180

[worthy meteor]

Redux fans purposefully limit rpms

[fresh timber]

my nas is geting rgb

[worthy meteor]

Noctua is just simply the gold standard at time of release, not well priced but you can know that they did all they could to squeeze out all the performance they could

Thermalright takes the big improvements and makes it affordable

[hoary zodiac]

Noctuas age better than other fans tbh

simply because of acoustic performance

[nocturne flicker]

Most I do with an OEM case is slap on a new psu, some more storage and jury rig a better cooler if I have a spare

[fresh timber]

my fans need to last me 5 years

[sinful blade]

I have the pricy Corsair s12 pro fans from a trade I did with a guy

[lone mango]

Thermalright tl-b12 has a pretty bad resonance around 50-60%

[sinful blade]

$70 fans for a $10 trade

[fresh timber]

ur the master of getting good deals, u ever think about flipping pcs on the side to make more $$$$$$

[idle nexus]

my Noctua Industrial fans are loud as heck lol

[sinful blade]

If I had the extra cash

I have a pc building business

No one has bought in months though

[hoary zodiac]

Noctua fans are built so well that when thermalright came along with their cheap fans, they didn't get hit as hard as brands like Corsair

[worthy meteor]

Compare them to 6000rpm delta fans smh

[hoary zodiac]

or Arctic

[idle nexus]

I also have delta fans lol

[fresh timber]

go on jawa, your just going to have to have the systems already built

[idle nexus]

I went thru this crazy time where I kept buying fans convinced it'd matter

it doesn't

[hoary zodiac]

Delta?? Delta T???? Physics reference????

[nocturne flicker]

Delta Quadrant

[hoary zodiac]

wait doesn't Delta make psus as well

[fresh timber]

do i want

[sinful blade]

I need money for that

[hoary zodiac]

Voyager mentioned wtf is a war crime

[fresh timber]

idk which one i like more

[idle nexus]

this might be a hot take but I'll just say it: the single, most inexpensive way to improve thermal performance is liquid metal

[nocturne flicker]

Only something the Borg do

[fresh timber]

i like the more square lcd

[hoary zodiac]

It's amazing how the temporal cops are more annoyed at Kirk than Janeway

[nocturne flicker]

There's coffee on that technologically inferior planet

[idle nexus]

liquid metal is like $15 for a gram (which is a heck ton of liquid metal) & conformal compound is like $20

[misty sparrow]

Didn’t think Liquid Metal paste worked better than normal thermal paste

[fresh timber]

i wanna ptm my CPU

[sinful blade]

Wife’s ideal pc is a borg cube

[lone mango]

graphite pad

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair the Delta Quadrant is a pretty messy place

[lone mango]

Nope

[sinful blade]

From cherry tree

[worthy meteor]

I mean how much liquid metal helps is also dependent on how good the ihs is

[fresh timber]

yes

[nocturne flicker]

Borg PC is actually pretty cool ngl

[lone mango]

Worse temps

[worthy meteor]

Delid may help way more

[idle nexus]

for GPUs, it's a godsend

[fresh timber]

why 😦

[sinful blade]

https://mycherrytree.com/products/star-trek-picard-borg-cube-atx

[hoary zodiac]

Is there even a version of the UFP in the Delta Quadrant?

[fresh timber]

my gpu has ptm from the factory so i dont have to worry about it 👅

[hoary zodiac]

or did the borg take that out

[lone mango]

Ptm thermal transfer is actually not that good. But it works well for gpus because of how it conforms/melts

[nocturne flicker]

Uh, something something STO

[lone mango]

Thermal paste has a higher thermal transfer

[hoary zodiac]

I want to get a model of voyager and stick it on there

[fresh timber]

ptm mixed with metals?

[hoary zodiac]

and make it look it's phasering the cube

[idle nexus]

my hotspot hits 100C with a waterblock & liquid metal

at 817 watts

[fresh timber]

put some gold or what ever is super conductive in it

[nocturne flicker]

STO has an anti-Borg coalition or something iirc

[worthy meteor]

UFP? Upper front plate? Wart hunder reference?

[fresh timber]

whats a super thermal transfer yet cheap metal @hoary zodiac

i know u know this

[idle nexus]

indium lol

[fresh timber]

wait i used wrong words

i fix

edit

[hoary zodiac]

TNG: One cube blows up the entire fleet
VOY: Casually blows up multiple borg cubes

[fresh timber]

is silver thermally transfer good

[idle nexus]

I'll be honest, I was scared when I first put liquid metal on

[hoary zodiac]

There's Gallium but you don't want to just throw gallium onto your cpu

[lone mango]

[idle nexus]

it's really not that bad unless you're just reckless

[hoary zodiac]

there's LM with gallium I think

[fresh timber]

yeah

[lone mango]

Arctic silver is conductive

[fresh timber]

honestly they should make a thermalpaste with metal in it

[hoary zodiac]

want to know that gallium will do to your cpu?

[nocturne flicker]

The USS Saratoga doesn't get plot armor

[hoary zodiac]

that's... what liquid metal is

[fresh timber]

sounds safer than liquid metal if u do it right

[nocturne flicker]

Only Voyager

[velvet summit]

It's made of copper

[fresh timber]

no just paste with metal inside it

[lone mango]

Not for gpus

[idle nexus]

I have this but haven't tried it yet. It's indium, silver, & I assume gallium lol https://www.amazon.com/Meta-Online-Liquid-Metal-Thermal/dp/B0DJFTW56C

[fresh timber]

but for gpus

[lone mango]

Ptm will conform and coat the smds

[fresh timber]

squeeze out more thermal transfer while not having the conerns of liquid metal

[velvet summit]

The IHS is nickel plated copper

[fresh timber]

somebody give me $366

[fresh timber]

why do they nickel plate it

[nocturne flicker]

Introducing a new hull armor, we at Utopia Planitia call it Plot Armor

[hoary zodiac]

will gallium destroy copper tho

[velvet summit]

Corrosion prevention

[fresh timber]

intel should take notes

[velvet summit]

No

[fresh timber]

they still hve corrosion

[idle nexus]

I've used liquid metal directly on copper

[hoary zodiac]

but at that point

[idle nexus]

it ain't pretty & you gotta reapply after a few months

[hoary zodiac]

what if your cooler has an aluminium base plate

[idle nexus]

but once whatever alloy is formed you're good to go lol

[hoary zodiac]

the contact surface

thingy

[velvet summit]

I think it may tarnish it but won't degrade it

[hoary zodiac]

whatever it's called

brain not braining

[idle nexus]

then you shouldn't own it lol

[hoary zodiac]

fair

[fresh timber]

my aios use copper

[velvet summit]

That will break yes

[hoary zodiac]

copper and copper would work tho

[idle nexus]

aside from the radiators on AIOs, what cooling parts are even aluminum anymore? motherboard heatsinks for like M.2s but that's about it I think

[fresh timber]

imagine customloop but the radiator has the pump in it

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's called an AIO

[fresh timber]

nvmes dont need much cooling anyways

[idle nexus]

they have CPU waterblocks with the pump on them

[velvet summit]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

I want to see noctua pumps

[fresh timber]

they wont

they air cooler company

[hoary zodiac]

Have you seen the computex video

they're messing around with asetek coolers

it's one of the more forgettable parts

[fresh timber]

asetek

haha no more patent

nerd

[hoary zodiac]

got overshadowed by the thermalsiphon

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[fresh timber]

idk if id run a thermalsiphon in my pc

[hoary zodiac]

Can't win? lololol just time travel

Temporal prime directive? what's that?

[lone mango]

Not entirely true

[fresh timber]

unless u got gen5 slop u dont

[hoary zodiac]

have you seen early gen 4 ssds

[fresh timber]

yeah, they got fixed tho

[hoary zodiac]

they're still out there

there's a very real chance to get a crappy ssd

[fresh timber]

if u have it you got bigger problems

im using a crpapy one as a boot drive rn lmfaooooo

[hoary zodiac]

It's cheaper to just put a cooler on it

than to replace it

[lone mango]

Yup

[hoary zodiac]

unless you're on a laptop

then that's a whole another can of worms

[fresh timber]

i guess i cant watch youtube

one of my nvmes gets cooled by 300w of gpu he at being blasted on to it

[hoary zodiac]

how

isn't that a 5500

[fresh timber]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

how

unironically

[fresh timber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hoary zodiac]

windows is on crack

[fresh timber]

idfk how

[lone mango]

When gen 4 first came out they were using older controllers on the "new" drives and they ran super hot from the added power draw

Basically overclocking the controllers

[fresh timber]

its using 99.9% of my gpu yet my gpu is at 1%??

[lone mango]

And thats pcie 5 rn

[hoary zodiac]

"Windows doesn't use a lot of ram it's just caching"

Looks at 100% cpu usage doing nothing

[fresh timber]

im still on gen 3

[nocturne flicker]

Apparently Voyager said there was an anti-Vaadwaur coalition ages ago. So that sorta counts

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[fresh timber]

all my storage is gen 3, my gpu is gen 5

[hoary zodiac]

that's more comparable to Enterprise era alpha quadrant

[misty sparrow]

Did you also debloat windows

[hoary zodiac]

pre-ufp

[fresh timber]

no

[lone mango]

I have 1 gen 3 and two sata drives

[fresh timber]

i dont debloat

[lone mango]

Lmao

[nocturne flicker]

Yes, the anti-Romulan coalition

[fresh timber]

i have. four gen 3 drives lol

[lone mango]

You have ltsc right

[fresh timber]

yes

[misty sparrow]

There’s your problem lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder

[fresh timber]

how?

[lone mango]

Not really needed for ltsc

[misty sparrow]

You can’t complain about Windows running like ass and not do anything about it

[hoary zodiac]

if ST is going to have the balls to do a colonialism take

with the delta quadrant

[fresh timber]

if u have to debloat a OS for it to run noramlly its a bad OS

[hoary zodiac]

imagine 25th century colonialism

[lone mango]

Windows moment

[fresh timber]

u cannot blame the end user for microsoft incompetence

also im using lstc so it is debloated by microsoft

[hoary zodiac]

it's not debloat it doesn't have the bloat

[nocturne flicker]

So the Klingon and Romulan and Cardassian empires

[hoary zodiac]

microsoft knowingly adds in the bloat

they know what they're doing

[misty sparrow]

why does Firefox have 47 processes anyway

[fresh timber]

side note, i was watching the video, then the video flashed green and black and then it played again but laggy asf

[hoary zodiac]

and they know people won't do anything about it

[nocturne flicker]

Sorry, the Cardassian 'Union'

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[fresh timber]

i pause the video and it drops to idle , discords using more now

wh

why is discord using 20%

unopmtized slop

[nocturne flicker]

DS9 literally did what if aftermath of space colonialism

[hoary zodiac]

Klingons are on their way out, Cardassia is like post-war Germany, Romulans aren't really a major power anymore

[lone mango]

Revolt, a foss discord clone uses half the memory

[hoary zodiac]

I'm really not a fan of the Picard Romulan plot line tho

[lone mango]

Great job discrod

[fresh timber]

i think my gpu decoding died

thats prob why

[nocturne flicker]

I'm not a fan of post JJ OTL

[fresh timber]

its cpu decoding

[hoary zodiac]

They portrayed the Romulan Star Empire so that they not a major power

like hello?

[misty sparrow]

Discord app is trash even the browser version is better

[hoary zodiac]

it's the Romulan Star Empire

where's the rest of the empire

Unless they pulled a Russia and had the entirety of their population in the Hobus system

[nocturne flicker]

The coherency of any of the plot was already in shambles with Time War stuff in Enterprise, then JJ say now make Romulans go boom

[hoary zodiac]

still you'd think an empire as old as the Romulans would span multiple star systems

[hybrid pagoda]

THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS!

Absolute peak Star Trek

[hoary zodiac]

based reference

[hybrid pagoda]

Cardassians were the more interesting enemy imo

[fresh timber]

ok so 720p and 1440p makes the cpu max out

kek

144p time

[idle nexus]

I hate windows 11 context menu so much

[hoary zodiac]

Germany lost a very massive chunk of their territory, mostly in what was formerly known as the Kingdom of Prussia

and look at them now

they're still one of the most developed countries in the world

[misty sparrow]

I hate getting recommended things in the start menu by default

[hoary zodiac]

you can't tell me that the Romulan Star Empire would collapse with one star system gone

[fresh timber]

sometimes i hate amd drivers then i remember nvidias is worst

[misty sparrow]

If you spam the windows key the recommendations will gradually slow the PC down

[nocturne flicker]

We don't talk about the east Romulan Star Empire

[fresh timber]

my heart goes out to you

[hoary zodiac]

At least STO still shows the Romulans as a major power

Picard just completely sidelines the Romulans

[nocturne flicker]

Only bad thing about STO is that they didn't take the extended universe Ben Sisko plot. Also it is shallow. And a money grab. And endgame is trash. And relies almost solely on fomo

[idle nexus]

lmk if you want lol

[hybrid pagoda]

You can turn that off, but I also did that at first
But I decided to give it a chance and I actually use it now

[misty sparrow]

I already removed it

[hoary zodiac]

STO is... ship go boom

[misty sparrow]

I hate that it’s in there by default

Windows is bad but Linux is also bad

[idle nexus]

you know new installs of win11 automatically enable bitlocker?

that makes me so mad lol

[nocturne flicker]

Ship go boom and tommy gun go ratatatat against Borg

[fresh timber]

ok

[lone mango]

Yeah bad choice

[hybrid pagoda]

idk I am fine if I can turn it off

[lone mango]

There should be an option when installing

[fresh timber]

so i restart firefox and my cpu still maxes

my gpu drivers died

[hoary zodiac]

If Apple sold MacOS as a product I would pay retail price

[fresh timber]

id uniornicly try it too

i just need full driver and cpu support and im chill

[misty sparrow]

Spoiler alert: They did

In the early 2000s

[hoary zodiac]

MacOS have a lot more support for software than Linux

[idle nexus]

can get good reg keys to disable windows nonsense here https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat/tree/master/Regfiles

[hoary zodiac]

that's the one part I'm missing from Linux

[fresh timber]

and somehow its still very little

[hoary zodiac]

a MacOS + Linux dual boot would be dope

[misty sparrow]

Can’t play games though lmao

[hybrid pagoda]

Isn't Apple being forced to spin a bunch of stuff into new companies

[hoary zodiac]

that would take care of 99% of my needs

[hoary zodiac]

yeah I can just use linux for that

[fresh timber]

windows has more software support than both

[hybrid pagoda]

Or was that Alphabet

[hoary zodiac]

that sounds like Alphabet

[nocturne flicker]

I yearn

Break the monopolies

[hoary zodiac]

Vive la revolution

break up google

[nocturne flicker]

(It is just Alphabet)

[fresh timber]

im bored

i wanna swap gpus

[hoary zodiac]

see

you break google away from alphabet

[idle nexus]

btw this is helpful for programs that won't close (modded Fallout4 mostly)

[hoary zodiac]

and then you break up google

google itself is already a massive monopoly

[misty sparrow]

Putting the task manager above all other applications helps too

[hoary zodiac]

Ses

[nocturne flicker]

The Justice Department suggested Google sell Chrome

[hoary zodiac]

I like what apple offers

but I don't like using apple

[pliant berry]

tbh the only edge they have now is really just gaming and some office applications. but gaming is slowly losing to linux and office is moving to web

[hoary zodiac]

Apple is nice but it's not for me

[elfin mural]

google selling chrome would be nice

[idle nexus]

I kinda like this tho

[nocturne flicker]

I don't imagine it'll go much further though.

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say applications more than games

[hybrid pagoda]

BEHOLD

[hoary zodiac]

it's a lot easier to run games than it is to run software

[nocturne flicker]

Million dollar dinner go brrrr

[misty sparrow]

Except Anticheat

[hoary zodiac]

you can easily sandbox a game

[misty sparrow]

Anticheat no work

[hoary zodiac]

that's a dev issue

[pliant berry]

if you are talking about linux then yes

[elfin mural]

battleye has linux support

[hoary zodiac]

Rockstar intentionally disabled EAC for GTA Online