general-chat

[mental yoke]

im not a hundo nor care much to look into it but thought i remember seeing that option

[tranquil pebble]

That said, I do not feel bad for people who get caught cheating online.

[mental yoke]

“get caught”

[tranquil pebble]

unfortunately not everyone who does gets caught doing it

although I would rather there be cheaters than deal with some of the nightmarish things some anticheats do

[mental yoke]

it just kinda sounds like ur ok with them if they dont get caught in that sentence structure

[tranquil pebble]

Nah, cheating online really is not ok.

[mental yoke]

i think some cheating is fine and different definitions are the problem

like abusing a bug within game linits

cheating? eh

[tranquil pebble]

When I say cheating... I mean stuff like actively modifying the game/game memory for stuff like trigger bots, aim bots, etc

do that all you want on single player but doing it in mp ruins fun for a lot of others

[mental yoke]

but its also fine single player or in a server of like minded online individuals

[tranquil pebble]

Yes. Which is why Dark Souls shadowban system is IMO good.

[mental yoke]

shadow ban is more rude to me, slap that person on the nose

[fresh timber]

They shouldn’t ban pcs

[tranquil pebble]

though you should be able to opt-in to it too, and leave at will as long as you dont cheat in the "clean" server

[fresh timber]

Cause if you resell it, rip new guy

[tranquil pebble]

Yes. Also privacy issues.

[fresh timber]

I have riot downloaded idc about privacy

[mental yoke]

ol’ diablo 2 open bnet 👴

[fresh timber]

Microsoft prob collects more

[tranquil pebble]

I have used aimbots in a gmod server that allows them lol. Aimbot vs aimbot went kinda hard ngl

[fresh timber]

I used to hack on Roblox

4k time

[tranquil pebble]

Roblox can ban you for saying "hi" in chat I have heard

[mental yoke]

id ban you for saying hi in chat

[fresh timber]

I forgot about WiFi drivers

[mental yoke]

plug fone in and tether

[tranquil pebble]

but fr I hope that company goes bankrupt

[elfin mural]

i kinda don't because i have been on that game for 10 years

i feel old

[tranquil pebble]

I get banned every time I so much as make an account. The reason is always "compromised account"

pretty sure my email address is flagged at this point and I will need a new one. It has been in about 30 database leaks.

[fresh timber]

4k extreme Forza max RT

[dusk knot]

already on it

all of the above

[upper rain]

like a woman? 🤭

[misty sparrow]

doom 2016 holds up very well

[misty sparrow]

no sorry, don't want a golddigger

[upper rain]

lol

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[upper rain]

i chose violence, sorry

[misty sparrow]

i wear my username like a badge of honor

[lone mango]

200 fps cap

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/owo-love-cat-meow-heart-gif-4559932780455511834

[lone mango]

highest the game can go

[misty sparrow]

when I installed the game recently I had to go through a bit of trouble to get it above 60

looks like the game really has an FPS problem, because on pause menu and in cutscenes it goes back to 60

[fresh timber]

Nobody looking at me pulling 100fps at 4k

😦

[lone mango]

I can probably do 240 if there was no cap

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

Kind of a forza hater ngl mb brodie 💔

[misty sparrow]

honestly not impressive, pull 120 and we will talk

[upper rain]

honestly not impressive, pull 140 and we will talk

[fresh timber]

It is, I just under played it

Top right

[acoustic palm]

@grand kernel hows the steel legend treating ya

[fresh timber]

So bad

I keep crashing

[upper rain]

skill issue

[sinful blade]

Does anyone wanna play Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, Minecraft, or Minecraft?

[lone mango]

my reaction

[cursive oasis]

minecragt

[fresh timber]

I’m bored

[onyx merlin]

I wonder

How much it would cost to buy a castle

[misty sparrow]

the one on the bottom right

[fresh timber]

I’m bored

[misty sparrow]

I wonder if valve has had any refurbished steam decks in stock for the past month

every time I go there now there's nothing

[grand kernel]

have yet to really daily drive it yet

still setting things up

[fresh timber]

Why don’t you just run stock

[hoary zodiac]

I have a problem

[onyx merlin]

humm

for 37 bucks I guess ok

should have given you at least 16GB Ram thought

8GB is trash in this day and age

[hoary zodiac]

Well that's the point

I have spare ddr3

[onyx merlin]

humm would windows 11 run on that tiny machine ?

[hoary zodiac]

Ahahahah

Never

Windows is not touching this thing unless it's in a virtual machine

[onyx merlin]

what you going to use it for then ?

[hoary zodiac]

Putting it in a cluster with my other mini pc

[dense locust]

Depression

[onyx merlin]

humm about to have Chinese food for dinner cuz my grandad just turned 94 today

[hoary zodiac]

Is it Chinese food tho

Or is it Chinese style food

[onyx merlin]

I should have said AMerican Chinese food my bad.

As American version is its own type

not the original source material

[hoary zodiac]

American adaptations are pretty interesting

American sushi is a pretty interesting take

[onyx merlin]

Ya likely going to spike my blood sugar to kingdom come..

[hoary zodiac]

American chinese is

Kinda meh

It's

How should I put it

[onyx merlin]

Doing a prebolus for it.... hopefully that helps

[hoary zodiac]

Well it doesn't taste Chinese

But that's probably because of my taste palette

[onyx merlin]

Fair enough.

[misty sparrow]

I thought this was a floppy disk drive for a second

had to do a double take because I forgot how thin these things could get

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's why I love these oem machines

they're really compact

and cheap

This is my entire homelab for now

Gonna double in size soon

[fresh timber]

9070xt boring now

[lone mango]

Give

[fresh timber]

What do u have now

[fresh timber]

What case

[lone mango]

Nr200

[fresh timber]

MATX mod?

[tranquil pebble]

well, its basically Americanized Chinese food. Its kind of like how "Swiss cheese" is an American cheese. Although it was inspired by a cheese from Switzerland

[lone mango]

Nah I thought about it because am5 itx is expensive but if I were to get something smaller, then I would have to get another board

[tranquil pebble]

I would not be surprised if China has their own spins on American food

[lone mango]

I dont think you can do matx with the nr200p either

I thought of getting the meshroom d

If I have the name right

Its a smaller nr200

[hoary zodiac]

There's Hong Kong

and their spins on British food

[fresh timber]

You can

[tranquil pebble]

Most countries probably have some spin on American and British foods tbh

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

controversial opinion

France > Italy

in terms of food

[tranquil pebble]

I'm just going to say one thing I do love about my country is the food. Even if it is infamously unhealthy lol

[hoary zodiac]

USA?

[tranquil pebble]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

I've grown up on a cantonese taste palette so

american food in comparison is... way too rich for my taste

[tranquil pebble]

I also love some good Mexican food

[worn night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945168127191285810/1060135925872607272/5C2FDEDF-95FD-4E10-8FA9-06153EBD75D1.gif

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah I love mexican

I do crap on american food a lot but

when sugar's not the main attraction

it's pretty good

[fresh timber]

Help me

[hoary zodiac]

block him

[tranquil pebble]

grilled food is where its at for American food

[dense locust]

Isn’t bbq sugar when you think about it?

[hoary zodiac]

bbq sauce?

[dense locust]

Ye

[tranquil pebble]

bbq sauce does have sweetness to it yeah

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

It depends on how the sugar is integrated into the dish

[tranquil pebble]

and how much of it

[hoary zodiac]

I don't like it when the sugar is straight up baked in

with bbq sauce I can control how much I'm eating

[tranquil pebble]

too much sugar is... eh kinda gross

[hoary zodiac]

it's not even sugar tbh

it's corn syrup

that's the real disgusting part

[dense locust]

I saw some recipes that make you rub sugar and spices onto ribs

[tranquil pebble]

yeah almost everything here is corn syrup lol

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

sugar on ribs?

[dense locust]

HFCS

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it makes sense if you put sugar in the sauce

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

but like really?

[lone mango]

How is this possible

Jordan ghost

[tranquil pebble]

high fructose alcohol syrup

[lone mango]

Drinker

[onyx merlin]

well ya... then again I try to avoid high sugar foods and or carb foods... basically I try to eat just enough carbs but not too many.... but I like more complex carbs.. easier to dose insulin for..... My worst enemies food wise are fatty carby foods like Pizza can spike me for hours and in general a pain.

[fresh timber]

You wanna join that server

[lone mango]

Whixh server

[hoary zodiac]

My asian genes do not allow me to get fat

[tranquil pebble]

sounds to me like it would taste good

[fresh timber]

Unofficial micro center server

I can dm invite

[hoary zodiac]

Why not in the sauce tho

[lone mango]

Micro center server

[hoary zodiac]

I feel like you might end up eating chunks of sugar

rather than the sugar being dissolved in the sauce

[dense locust]

I made some ribs with a rub using sugar

It was pretty good

[hoary zodiac]

How's the texture?

[onyx merlin]

eating pure sugar sounds disgusting..... but to each their own lolz.

[hoary zodiac]

that's the main thing I'm curious about

[dense locust]

It tasted like ribs

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/5YGja9TX21Y?si=ZcqA58WbxaLK0s4L

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

I have a switch too

[lone mango]

I can join the server in a bit

[dense locust]

I get mine in 3 days

[hoary zodiac]

I got my switch a week ago

it's good

[rancid juniper]

nice

[onyx merlin]

People still use Nintendo brand ?

[dense locust]

I’m excited
||to play deltarune||

[onyx merlin]

Wow figuried that died out or something ... Nintendo charges like full price for mega old games and no good sales

[hoary zodiac]

oh isn't that game almost out

[onyx merlin]

plus why bother with Nintendo when you can get a Steam Deck

which offers better value lolz

[dense locust]

Day 1 switch 2 launch title

[hoary zodiac]

steam deck doesn't have 24 gigabit ports

[fresh timber]

This so funny asf, the mods already don’t like him

[lone mango]

Steam deck 2

[hoary zodiac]

still waiting

[lone mango]

This is not surprising

[onyx merlin]

But Steam Deck does let you use all your Steam games and enjoy actually decent sales

[fresh timber]

They asked for the screenshots of what he does so I sent

[onyx merlin]

Nintendo will just milk you dry

[fresh timber]

If only he didn’t spam ping me

[hoary zodiac]

see

[fresh timber]

Nintendo sucks

[hoary zodiac]

the joke is that I was talking about a network switch

[dense locust]

The switch 1 outsold the steam deck 10 to 1

[fresh timber]

Am I the only one who got it

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

just block him

it's not that hard

[onyx merlin]

Dont get me wrong I use to like Nintendo back in the days of yore.... but times change... and I dislike buying any games at full price.. I only buy stuff on sale now 99 percent of time

[hoary zodiac]

I spend my money on pc parts more than games

games cost more than my ebay mini pc purchases

[dense locust]

Hey at least Nintendo games are mostly all complete on release

[hoary zodiac]

Ok you know what I'll give them that

The absolute state of AAA 💀

[craggy shoal]

Indies are the new AAA

[rancid juniper]

people forgetting pokemon scarlet and violet??

[onyx merlin]

4-5 years assuming the new microcenter by my house is still around will just waltz in and pick out parts I want hand them to one of their builders in store and be like built this for me and come back in 2-3 days to a fully built ready to go OP machine.. instead of waiting like a week or more sometimes ordering a new PC online lol

[hoary zodiac]

what

[craggy shoal]

what

[hoary zodiac]

?????

pardon?

[onyx merlin]

Are microcenter staff competent typically with building computers ?

[fresh timber]

and Jordan got banned

[onyx merlin]

dead chat

[dense locust]

I build my pc in an evening

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-jesse-walter-white-gif-25245234

[fresh timber]

I built 2 in a evening

[onyx merlin]

meh I am no builder and dont like having to trouble shoot crap to get it to work properly... rather just get prebuilt or pick parts out and have some compent builder do it for me assuming its not outrage price they charge to make it

then I have a working PC ready to go etc etc.

[rancid juniper]

thats quite a melon

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

[fresh timber]

I built a pc when I was 13, your fine

[onyx merlin]

I mean if its like 50-100 bucks or something

no problem

[hoary zodiac]

Sir it's 2025

[fresh timber]

That’s what I said

[fresh timber]

Your in Newegg, make ur own pc

[rancid juniper]

but why is it shaped like that?

[onyx merlin]

I mean its not 2029-2030 yet

[fresh timber]

Because it’s a big Mellon

[hoary zodiac]

prebuilts rip you off at 2x the rate of 2024

[onyx merlin]

thats 4-5 years from now

[hoary zodiac]

I haven't seen a reasonable price even for custom built pcs

[rancid juniper]

melon took all the nutrients to end up like that fr

[fresh timber]

Get custom built off jawa

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell is a jawa

is that an island in the pacific

[fresh timber]

How

[fresh timber]

Jawa.gg

[hoary zodiac]

what

I'm not clicking on that

[fresh timber]

Type the website!

[hoary zodiac]

no

[fresh timber]

Ignorance

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not typing a sketchy link in my browser

[fresh timber]

Nut it’s not sketchy

[onyx merlin]

I mean Boomer has it right

why click shady website

[fresh timber]

But it’s not shady

It’s jawa

[onyx merlin]

the script ?

[hoary zodiac]

You are assuming that name means anything to us

[onyx merlin]

Or the jawa from star wars

[fresh timber]

I mean you could go to https://jawa.gg but that’s too hard

[onyx merlin]

umm never heard of that site.

[hoary zodiac]

yeah I'm not clicking on a sketchy link

[onyx merlin]

and if people want to sell used GPUS can use ebay

or something

[fresh timber]

Okay how the hell is that site sketchy

[dense locust]

YouTubers promote it

[onyx merlin]

plus I am guessing most of stuff on sale on that site is like really outdated

[dense locust]

How is it not sketchy

[onyx merlin]

and garbage

[hoary zodiac]

I trust ebay buyer protection

👍

[onyx merlin]

Yup

Ebay is cool with that way.

[fresh timber]

This is old

Frfr

[hoary zodiac]

that is the most average looking build I've seen

[fresh timber]

It’s prebuilt

[hoary zodiac]

not optimized at all

[fresh timber]

Wot

It’s $900 for that, find another prebuilt that matches

They all sloppy 4060 ones

[hoary zodiac]

just because it's cheap doesn't mean it's good

[onyx merlin]

Ya 3080 series is pretty outdated price would be more fair at 600-700 perhaps 800 tops

960 is rip off

[hoary zodiac]

I'd pay $960 if it had a solid ssd, cpu cooler and a better psu

[fresh timber]

Out dated???

[onyx merlin]

I mean ya.

[hoary zodiac]

I do not trust a 13700F with that thing

[fresh timber]

A 3080 beats a 4060

Probably a 5060 too

[onyx merlin]

3080 gets murdered by 4080S

Then again 4080S series is a pretty good GPU

Its like the 900 series which were solid little beasts

[fresh timber]

And 4080 is overpriced like everything els rn

[dense locust]

The only thing that I see that’s bad is the 16gb of ram

[onyx merlin]

16GB is trash

[hoary zodiac]

I'm fine with the cpu and gpu

but everything else

[onyx merlin]

you need at min 32GB and even 32GB is lame

you need 64-120GB of Ram

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not paying $960 for that combination of parts

[onyx merlin]

Any less and your selling yourself short

[hoary zodiac]

everything except for the cpu and gpu are cheap crap

[fresh timber]

I think people overestimate what they need

[hoary zodiac]

Disagree

[fresh timber]

Find a better prebuilt

[hoary zodiac]

If you have a 3080

[fresh timber]

I could swap to 16gb rn and be fine

[hoary zodiac]

it's not hard to go over 16GB

[rancid juniper]

scalper pic

cuz wtf?

[hoary zodiac]

I've gone over 16GB in Far Cry 5 several years back

[onyx merlin]

you scalping all that ? why would you buy so many otherwise ?

[fresh timber]

Then spend the $40 for another 16gb or what ever

[nocturne flicker]

Medal of Honor Airborne 👀

[onyx merlin]

weird thing to admit too

[hoary zodiac]

my argument is just that the pc is put together with crap parts

the cpu and gpu is fine

[dense locust]

If I had that much money I for sure wouldn’t buy that many switches

[sinful blade]

Good game

Even now

[hoary zodiac]

but combined with everything else

that's not worth $960

[nocturne flicker]

It is

[onyx merlin]

Ahh ok.

[fresh timber]

Of course not, nobody’s putting the time and effort into selling a pc at cost with out making any money

[nocturne flicker]

Too bad it didn't turn around the series enough and the entire thing died

Because they were cooking with Airborne

[sinful blade]

If they just made airborne 2

[hoary zodiac]

It's still not worth $960

[sinful blade]

Ez money

[onyx merlin]

Ya but whoever built that isnt trying to give any decent value like 16GB of Ram is a total fail..

[hoary zodiac]

you can make a profit without having most of the pc be cheap crap

I wouldn't even trust that cpu cooler

That's dell level shenanigans

At best that thing is going to very loud

at the very worst

it's going to throttle a lot

[fresh timber]

$650

[hoary zodiac]

that's acceptable

[fresh timber]

I don’t think I could recreate that my self

[onyx merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

no worst would be this

computer catching fire or exploding

[fresh timber]

I love Intel

I love my 13600kf

[hoary zodiac]

to be fair

I could probably build something like that for $650

[fresh timber]

I’m keeping until am6 or I’m tired of my dead motherboard Argb

[hoary zodiac]

zen 2 isn't too expensive

although

[fresh timber]

Zen

[onyx merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aOICtMyKTk

[hoary zodiac]

$650 is a lot more reasonable for this combination of parts

compared to the last prebuilt

so I'll give it a thumbs up

[fresh timber]

I pair a zen 2 equivalent with a 9070xt

[hoary zodiac]

huh

[fresh timber]

Jawa is better when u look for budget builds

[hoary zodiac]

13600kf is not that weak

[fresh timber]

No

I have a 5500 too

[hoary zodiac]

is this some stupid thing you do with your pc parts because you got bored

[fresh timber]

I’ve been using 5500+9070xt

[fresh timber]

No my 13600kf is 15mins away from me

Car ride

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not even going to question it

[fresh timber]

I’m not home

🤦

I didn’t do this cause I was bored

[hoary zodiac]

no details required

[fresh timber]

Google said to Airdry

So I’m air drying

[craggy shoal]

Rip desk mat

[fresh timber]

It’s my spare one idc

[onyx merlin]

Boomer here is your new top of the line gaming rig it only costs lets say 100,000K

[craggy shoal]

That thing has a mouse

[fresh timber]

I need a new mousepad

I’m confused on why my oc is stable in basement but unstable updtairs

[elfin mural]

probably ambient temps

[fresh timber]

I don’t think my thermals are changing to the point that that matters

[acoustic palm]

wall socket?

[elfin mural]

must be something else then

probably wall socket yeah

[fresh timber]

Wall

[lone mango]

tRUE

And they cheap out on other stuff too

[fresh timber]

I would rather a cheap prebuilt with better specs than one with worst

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber what if i get a large sum of money and make my pc 9950x3d + rtx 6000

[fresh timber]

I found my childhood desk

[fresh timber]

I’d want

What if I get a job and buy a 5090

[acoustic palm]

weak

lf rtx 6000

[acoustic palm]

ok but fr i really want to a good ram kit

[fresh timber]

What if I cut off all my airflow, now what quok

Seriously I wanna drill holes for a fan

Pog

[dusk knot]

Well would you look at that

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[acoustic palm]

@proud jackal you know ram right

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sywmP6/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl28-memory-ff4d532g6000hc28adc01
im being told this is a bad idea

[lavish stag]

can you guys tell me about memory timing or the other important thing to look for in ram besides mhz?

[sinful blade]

@grand kernel

[opaque sedge]

Have u guys played monster hunter before? If u have have u seen the memes abt longsword users 💀, i thought they were just memes but holy crap they’re actually hardasses

They’re acting like i defiled a samurai clan’s ancestral teachings at the suggestion of using macro binding

[fresh timber]

itgs bad in tthe sense ur current ram already works

[acoustic palm]

cl36 and ugly 😦

[fresh timber]

its like a car, ur just spending money on upgrades so it looks nicer and performs a bit better

[acoustic palm]

well yeah

if i buy im reselling my ram to my friend

[grand kernel]

what are you looking for?

ddr4? ddr5? for which cpu

[acoustic palm]

im being told its a bad idea becasue "50/50 chance it works"

😭

[fresh timber]

wot

it should just work out of the box

[acoustic palm]

"amd memory controller bad blah blah"

[fresh timber]

its not like ur pushing higher clcok speeds on the ram,

[fresh timber]

amd server?

[acoustic palm]

yup

[fresh timber]

your vram is fine dawg

ur ram is fine

[grand kernel]

it's likely to work... however there's no reason to pay extra for 6000c28 over 6000c30

[fresh timber]

its going to run

[acoustic palm]

😦

[grand kernel]

if you plan to use expo, performance difference is going to be 0

[acoustic palm]

i have cl36 rn

i feel like either would be an upgrade

[grand kernel]

if you plan to manual oc and want to buy a binned kit, might as well go for 6000c26

well cl36 is probably samsung die

[acoustic palm]

none for sale on pcpp

[acoustic palm]

ye 36-36-36-96

[grand kernel]

6000c30 is always going to be hynix

tCL literally does not matter

get the cheapest hynix die and call it a day

[acoustic palm]

😦

i want rgb white ram

[grand kernel]

rgb is detrimental for performance

but if you're not overclocking it doesn't matter

if that's the cheapest white rgb kit go for it

[acoustic palm]

cheapest white rgb ram 10ns kit
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MKYRsY/silicon-power-xpower-storm-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-sp032gxlwu64afdl

[grand kernel]

don't know what that person is talking about though, I get the feeling that they read 1 comment on reddit and are now pretending to be a ram oc expert

it's pretty trivial to get ddr5-8000 on cheap 4 dimm AM5 boards

[lone mango]

Yeah if that doesnt work then you can go down to cl28 6000

Thats what I did

[acoustic palm]

however this is only 5$ more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yRQKHx/silicon-power-xpower-storm-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-sp032gxlwu720fdl

[fresh timber]

QUOK

DM E THE INVITE

[grand kernel]

I'm currently running a 6400c30 manual tune on a 4 dimm board, can go down to 6400c26 for fun if I want to

7200c34 will probably have lower performance than 6000c30 out of the box

definitely will if you have a single ccd chip

[acoustic palm]

and im guessing it would be bad to uc

[fresh timber]

im waiting for next gen am5 or am6

i wantt something thats a upgrade from a 13600kf

[grand kernel]

I mean you're gonna get the exact same result underclocking it so I don't see why pay extra

[acoustic palm]

gotcha

[grand kernel]

if you won't manual oc ram, there is no reason to ever go beyond 6000c30

[acoustic palm]

ill get it once my friend starts to build his pc

[grand kernel]

honestly even upgrading from 6000c36 samsung that you already have to 6000c30 hynix is probably a waste

x3d chips are less sensitive to memory performance

[acoustic palm]

gotcha

[lone mango]

[grand kernel]

if I were you I wouldn't bother changing your ram and just enjoy your pc as is

[acoustic palm]

are these timings normal for 6400mhz cl32

[grand kernel]

yes

[acoustic palm]

its ugly though

[grand kernel]

if you want to change it for that reason sure

[acoustic palm]

and my friend is building his pc and i can give him a good deal on the ram

[grand kernel]

I wouldn't do it just for the sub 1% performance gain though

6400c32 will also perform worse than 6000c30 out of the box

might perform worse than 6000c36 even

[acoustic palm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093800682601062430/1104613213749923870/Screenshot_2023-03-02_195313.gif

[grand kernel]

anything above 6000 is going to default to 1:2 and you'll need to do some degree of manual tuning

if you just want to plug and play expo, stick to 6000 maximum

[acoustic palm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N48Pxr/patriot-viper-elite-5-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pver532g60c30kw

[grand kernel]

sure

[acoustic palm]

looks cool too

[fresh timber]

I want to give my friend the best advice ever, he has a 5600g and 4060, he plays marvel rivals 99.9% of the time, or roblox. idk if i should recomend a new cpu, gpu, or 1440p upgrade

[lone mango]

Yeah you are gonna have to bump up vsoc and hope the cpu can run 6400

[grand kernel]

or just underclock the ram to 6000

[lone mango]

Mine cant

[lone mango]

Yeah thats what I did

[grand kernel]

or 6200

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber is it weird my internet is like HARD locked to 42 mpbs upload

[grand kernel]

but yeah it doesn't make sense to pay more money to do more work for the same or worse results

[fresh timber]

Probably your provider

[acoustic palm]

not anything i can fix?

cause 900/42 is weird

[grand kernel]

probably just copper coax

you won't get symmetric speeds if you're not on fiber

[fresh timber]

not weird

not at all

[fresh timber]

thats normal quok

[rancid juniper]

beamng be takin all resources

[grand kernel]

xfinity uses copper coax

[acoustic palm]

unbalanced*

[fresh timber]

i have xfinity, its 600/40

[grand kernel]

I got 800/40 on xfinity, switched to at&t fiber and now I get 300/300

[fresh timber]

downgradeeeeeee

id rather keep the 800

[rancid juniper]

100/12 xfinity here

[fresh timber]

OOF

[lone mango]

Yeah micro center had 6400 cl32 for like $10 more so I got the 6400 anyway to see if it could run it

Then I just went down to 6000 but with lower cl

[grand kernel]

meh, 300/300 is generally better than 800/40 imo but more importantly it's less than half the price

you can feel the difference between 40 upload and 300 upload just sending images on discord lol

I don't download new games very often

for smaller everyday downloads 300 is more than enough

[fresh timber]

i download quite often

mostly ai models or video games,

[grand kernel]

typically bottlenecked more by the download server than 300mbps down anyway

[fresh timber]

when i upload my 40 up doesnt seem too limiting

[grand kernel]

there are definitely use cases where 800/40 is better

[fresh timber]

tbh i dont struggle to find servers fast enough

[grand kernel]

but 300/300 is better for me and much cheaper

lol I was trying to update firmware on my sk hynix platinum p41

and it took hours to download the software

sk hynix download servers were crawling along at a few bytes per second

🙂

download failed 4 times

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

you update ur firmware?

iv never updated a nvme

i have gold p31

[grand kernel]

apparently there was some bug with sustained write speeds on the p41 that a firmware update fixed

figured I'd just do it first thing

[fresh timber]

im doing so much to get my nas to run speedest

im not even at the same location making it a bit harder

and it works pog

ewww its 20 upload

somebody at home might be uploading

[fresh timber]

@grand kernel

[fresh timber]

fsr 4.0

i replaced dlss

im cpu limited thast why my fps is sl low

gpu not even maxing ouit

Idc if it’s a waste of money, I wa t it

[misty sparrow]

graphic design is my passion

[fresh timber]

i deadass want it

[proud jackal]

[lone mango]

[nocturne flicker]

Theo talks to Egirls

[fresh timber]

what does theo do in his free time

[nocturne flicker]

theo_poor because theo_spends all his theo_coin on theo_egirls

[misty sparrow]

what the hell is NIKKE

[pliant berry]

A game you probably don’t want to look up rn

[misty sparrow]

fair enough

that community server icon alone makes me not wanna look it up

[fresh timber]

my 9070xt keeps crashing

pog

probably the psu

and how im powering it

[misty sparrow]

well of course, it's sitting outside of the build

[fresh timber]

not using that psu

[misty sparrow]

did you even put it some place where it won't topple?

[fresh timber]

im not using that gpu

and it works just fine for what i use it for

this is weird

4k barley drops my fps, at 1440p im gettngn 8 more fps

I finally got the psu to trip

Not psu nvm

Sad

I used 1600w

[proud jackal]

can it even breathe in there

[fresh timber]

No

It’s throttling

[proud jackal]

[dense locust]

[dense locust]

is that doom the single frame ages?

[fresh timber]

i removed the door so the pc doesnt throttle

[lone mango]

No this is doom 200 fps cap at 75% gpu usage

So who is ready for $500 9060 xt

[hoary zodiac]

Is it actually going to be $500

💀

Mid range is dead

[fresh timber]

Me! My friend is thinking about getting one

Upgrade from 4060

5600g 4060 build he upgrading

[lone mango]

Its basically a 7700 xt but cheaper*

And low power

Would be a good upgrade even though I just upgraded

Idk bro

if i can really get one at 350...

https://tenor.com/view/kyy-gif-8522796557489171378

[hoary zodiac]

$350 is reasonable

$500 is insane

[lone mango]

Just a guess on what the xfx cards will cost

[hoary zodiac]

That's nearing what

5070?

[lone mango]

Probably 450 is what they will do

[hoary zodiac]

This is supposed to be the mid ranger too

[lone mango]

Still not worth

[lone mango]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

It's not worth a dollar over $399

And that's me being generous

[lone mango]

Yeah I think 370 maximum

350 preferably

[hoary zodiac]

Considering how much the 9070 costs

[lone mango]

Launch is june 5

[hoary zodiac]

The AIBs can do scam prices

And people would still buy them

[lone mango]

Brutal

[hoary zodiac]

Because they would be the "budget" option

This is what happens when the low end dies completely

Realistically who's got the money for a $500 gpu

[lone mango]

When ps5 is cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

Ps5 is legit a better option at this point at the low end

If you only consider new hardware

The ps5 is unrivalled

Here's to hoping that intel's going to plug that low end gap

Cuz AMD and Nvidia don't care

[fresh timber]

i have ps5 its not that special

its good, but not special

[dense locust]

I wonder what performance the b770 will target

[hoary zodiac]

I don't think you understand what we're saying here

[dense locust]

5070?

[fresh timber]

also https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/sony-slashes-ps5-prices-nintendo-xbox-hike-console-costs good luck with consol killers

[hoary zodiac]

That just reinforced my entire point

[fresh timber]

id rather a desktop with a slower gpu than a consol after e xpirencing both

i enjoyed my rx6600 11600k more than i did a ps5

[hoary zodiac]

Well here's the thing

When the cheapest new option is at on average double the price of a console

[dense locust]

My $1000 gpu blows this out of the water smh garbage

[hoary zodiac]

The value proposition of a pc takes a nosedive

When you have to pay that much more

[fresh timber]

???

get ur self a b580 and 12100f system

[hoary zodiac]

That's a gpu

Not a whole system

[fresh timber]

i bet i can make a entire pc for less than a console

[hoary zodiac]

Ok

Do it

[dense locust]

I mean you can

[lone mango]

I think so yeah

[dense locust]

But you have to work for it

[fresh timber]

i have alerts setup just for cheap gpus

and i dont even buy a cheap one

if i had to make something i persoanlly would buy https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4bgmC, i 5500. great cpu can go up to a 9070xt, rx6600 eagle, great card used to be my main gpu for a year, masterbox q300l, holds my 9070xt and 5500 super well, good temps.

that motherboard, i have the a320m verson in my nas, gets the job done well

[lone mango]

maybne

[worn wave]

5500
Up to 9070xt

Doubt

Maybe at 4k

5500 is like a 3600

[lone mango]

Maybe like a 6700 xt max to avoid any bottleneck in any game

[worn wave]

My 3600x was bottlenecking my 3060ti in some games. But I think part of that was I had the worst 3600x ever

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-better-than-dell-gamers-nexus-steve-gn-better-than-dell-gif-4113752311040353247

[lone mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356765177298817105/1366365328094793780/soyjack_dark.gif

[fresh timber]

im using that config right now

it runs fine

[hoary zodiac]

Is that a used gpu?

[fresh timber]

yuh

[hoary zodiac]

Meh

[fresh timber]

prob could get 6650xt if u tried

[hoary zodiac]

I'd go either all new

Or all used

[fresh timber]

if ur going all used u can do so much better

[hoary zodiac]

If you're getting one used part

[worn wave]

5500 and 9070xt?

[hoary zodiac]

Might as well make the whole thing used

[hoary zodiac]

That doesn't show bottleneck

[fresh timber]

im not showing bottleneck

im not even gaming rn

i can just show this smh

5500+9070xt+7700xt

[hoary zodiac]

🤨

[fresh timber]

when im home ill be running 13600kf+7700xt+rx6600 maybe

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[fresh timber]

i gotta figure out how ima mount the 7700xt first, prob goin mount it outside the case like i am now

[worn wave]

5500 9070xt
13600kf 7700xt
?

[fresh timber]

no, 13600kf is not in the same hous as me right now

im at my fathers crib

currently the 13600kf has no gpu

[lone mango]

I think he meant he will have all 3 cards when he goes back

For ai or whatever

[fresh timber]

oh i will

but sytan saying 6000 sucks cause no ai

so if 6600 doesnt ai i cannot recoomend rdna2 again

[hoary zodiac]

That's one hell of a misrepresentation

[worn wave]

I think you can do ai on 6000 series but it's just not very fast

Similar to Nvidia 2000 series

[fresh timber]

i just want its vram

oh then it sucks

[lone mango]

I think it can but slow

But you have 3 cards so idk how bad thats gonna be

[hoary zodiac]

Why would you run AI on a Radeon

[lone mango]

Like how much the impact would be

[fresh timber]

because i dont wanna buy a nvidia card

[hoary zodiac]

It's only going to benefit from scenarios where it eats vram

Why are you running AI

[fresh timber]

thats excatly what im doing, eating vram

[worn wave]

AI tends to do that lol

[hoary zodiac]

You know what

[fresh timber]

currently im using 24gb

[fresh timber]

because its fun, thats all

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not even going to question it

[fresh timber]

9070xt is really good

i maxed out fortnite

in game it runs like 70-80 fps

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

i need to install a few games on linux to test

give suggsetions cloud

[lone mango]

rdr2

[fresh timber]

im not buying that

[lone mango]

wait you dont have nvm

[fresh timber]

try again

hers my fav games i have on steam

[mental yoke]

rdr2

[lone mango]

no mans sky

hd2

finals works on here too

[fresh timber]

im cpu limited in nms, ill do helldivers

[lone mango]

although can be iffy

[lone mango]

oh i thought you meant when you get on the 13600kf

[fresh timber]

oh no im doing it right now

[lone mango]

ok

[fresh timber]

my mom, broke her foot so im staying until shes cleared to walk

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

yeah

i was suppose to have my graduation party a few days ago

but broken foot

i bought a trash 1tb nvme thinking it would be enough nope

[lone mango]

i was supposed to grad but here i am cramming summer classes because of a miscalculation i made long ago

[fresh timber]

i need to go home so i can use my nas

i have a new case too

[lone mango]

Do you have witcher

[fresh timber]

no

its $12

but its gog

not steam

ew

[lone mango]

Ok that game is also good on linux, one of the cases where its faster than windows by a bit

[fresh timber]

i dont know how u play games not on steam in linux yet

[lone mango]

There is a launcher called heroic

[fresh timber]

i have that

[lone mango]

Oh ok

Yeah it has gog and epic

[fresh timber]

fun fact, arch linux is the only distro type that even supports my gpu

all the others i tried didnt fully support it

[lone mango]

Which did you try

[fresh timber]

bazzite

ubuntu

debian

they all suck

[misty sparrow]

i'm still friend

[lone mango]

Idk about bazzite but you probably downloaded the stable versions of the other distros

Its not the distro its the kernel version

[fresh timber]

the stable versons should work smh

[lone mango]

Cachy is more bleeding edge than the others

[fresh timber]

yeah thats why i got it

why would u not push the latency kernal for a major gpu launch

[lone mango]

What version you on

[fresh timber]

stupidity

[fresh timber]

lemmie swap over to winix ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone mango]

I am on 6.14.8

[lone mango]

Because of stability

You probably can update mesa and get suppoty

Idk never used a distro like that before

[mental yoke]

i cant get win 11 to set an actual 8k background

[fresh timber]

Stability, I love the stability of my gpu not working

[lone mango]

Always been on a more cutting edge distro

Speaking of which I need to update cachy

havent use it in weeks

[fresh timber]

why is the text blurry

explain why my text is blurry

[lone mango]

Looks like as long as you have 6.14 you should be good

[fresh timber]

why text blurry

[lone mango]

Where

On what

[fresh timber]

on discord

its blurry

[lone mango]

Maybe auto scaling or something

Click on it and scroll

[fresh timber]

disgusting linux

i hate how the screenshot tool fuctions, can u get more windows like behavior

[lone mango]

When I drag my pdf viewer to my second monitor, its garbled because it is a different resolution

Until I scroll and then it adjusts

[fresh timber]

wanna see some ai in action scaling between my gpus

[lone mango]

Oh nice you are already on 6.15

[fresh timber]

it takes a sec for the model to dump in the vram

i blame the 2nd gpu for having less bandwith than my nvme

[misty sparrow]

is there a setting that allows you to see the AI's "thoughts"

[lone mango]

I think my cachy is on 6.14.5 or something lol

I hope update dont brick it or something

[fresh timber]

WAIT DOES HELLDIVERS NOT WORK ON LINUX

IT SAYS WINDOWS ONLY

WAIT

i need proton

downloading games to try tommrow

[lone mango]

Yeah you gotta go to properties for every game

It should say install and then when you press it you choose what proton version you wanna use

hope they do something like that

[fresh timber]

i think evrey game should support linux if its nota burden to add support too, at the very least like many others do.. let proton just work

the work is done for u

[fresh timber]

i cant wit to have a cpu that beats you again

❤️

[lone mango]

Not if I get zen 6 first

[fresh timber]

im going zen 6 first

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

nexxt year if i have money im going zen 6

this christmas idk what i wanna ask for..

my brithyday comes first shoot

honestly i might ask for more storage

[lone mango]

I want to get zen 6 but is not necessary

[fresh timber]

im ngl my 13600kf is fast enough for everything i do

like its overkill fast

the most i wanna upgade in my system is a vertical mount really, i wanna poor more money into my nas

[lone mango]

Yeah extra cores are cool but my cpu does av1 encoding no problem

[fresh timber]

im thinking about upgrading my nas to like a 12100 non f

i have a shiny 32gb ram kit with its name on it

oo excuse to upgrade my z790 to ddr5 and giving my nas a z790

[lone mango]

@hoary zodiac I have not seen this before

Wrong pic

Does this mean the last update I did had the rust package

[fresh timber]

i want this.. i need this

[lone mango]

Oh this is a cachy specific package

Then I will press yes

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

the case im working with right now 4 3.5inch bays,.. i think theirs two more but im not sure

[lone mango]

Cachy browser is cool

[fresh timber]

if it has 6 thats perfect

im mouting my hdds when i get home into the new case

[sinful blade]

Go to sleep

[lone mango]

Brutal ownage

[fresh timber]

no sleep

im thinking about how ima mount my hdds

thinking about if its possible to mount two gpus in this motherbord. even if i use a riser to mount the 2nd gpu somewhere els idk if i can make it fit

[lone mango]

Raid 5

[fresh timber]

an excuse for a diffrent motherbaorD?

[misty sparrow]

2:41 AM is nothing

[fresh timber]

they alr are configured to loose one drive

[lone mango]

Brutal bottom slot

[fresh timber]

IKR

im littlrey prob going to just run a 1x riser from that slot to the outside of my case

[hoary zodiac]

Probably just pacman acting up

[fresh timber]

i have a 2nd psu ill jump to it

[lone mango]

Asus gotcho ass wit dat

[hoary zodiac]

Pacman -Syy

Might also want to refresh mirrors and the keyring

Sometimes pacman just does that

[lone mango]

This is an update app so it probably does everything already

Ima do the cachy packages

[fresh timber]

pacman

i hate pacman

i have no idea how to use it

im so usde to apt get

[lone mango]

Wow look my system is getting smaller after this update

Thank you linux

[fresh timber]

if i get a new motherboard ill prob have to get https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MZWJ7P/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-x-wifi7-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-elite-x-wifi7

good pcie slot

[lone mango]

pacman

Wow its already done almost

[fresh timber]

i can fit my gpu in that slot 👅 its only a 2.5 slot

for now riser to outside of case to a random psu

[lone mango]

That took like a minute

[fresh timber]

when my mom can pick me up im going to buy a new case for the 2nd pc and list it.

should i just buy the new case now kek

fun project at dads

ok i have the funds

what case am i geting chat

i need to fit a ATX psu and 240mm rad minumal

no more than $80

[lone mango]

nvm

[fresh timber]

u notice how i said no more than $80

[lone mango]

no

[fresh timber]

im selling this system

[lone mango]

d32

[fresh timber]

d32

comes wensday

[lone mango]

https://www.amazon.com/Micro-ATX-Compatibility-Desktop-Support-Back-Connect/dp/B0DMVS51H3?th=1

[fresh timber]

do we know anything cheaper or nah

idk why i said $80

[lone mango]

https://www.newegg.com/black-jonsbo-d32-series-micro-atx/p/2AM-006A-000G3

$72

standard is 64

[fresh timber]

oh clser to my like

[lone mango]

Why this go hard wtf

If only I knew after my friend got his case

[fresh timber]

FR

the fans arnt pwm but idc

[lone mango]

I would have told him to get that

[lone mango]

Brutal

[fresh timber]

if they voltage im happy

if not. still happy

im selling the pc, not a me problem

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

https://www.amazon.com/Okinos-Non-PWM-Pre-Installed-Temper-Cypress/dp/B0DQPR55H6?crid=UTVORR2OEBSA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-yaqgz3Y8F_pkIAwAhyco-lvq1okC7IyVlEtnnyS2VAGtI3PFdX9UNG-ZsmCZ6tsx2tIA0QAp7prb0hte3H8Mz72XUgfvh23hCa5uoE7bhnmMrnfrewA6RfmpPOiINhLdI86cBFxfGwppLqlcF7_PAZyRunK_yZPO8vZWafLod7fRNqTZdZb-bbkjVU4UNCFGvKfLD7IhXdhRK1dMWl0DMZAzCTEMkqQ2eQkhTUNV7c.CmPCEJ80XI2qIO-CKWIwhG5dOFtby592mr8GFtI5wTY&dib_tag=se&keywords=matx+case&qid=1748850492&sprefix=matx+cas%2Caps%2C286&sr=8-9

what about this bad boy

RGB to appeal to kids

[lone mango]

I wanted my friend to get the d32 but he got the montech which has preinstalled fans

[fresh timber]

im maining picking those cases so i dont have to spend money on fans

[lone mango]

he saved a little but he has unknown quality fans

hope it pays off

[lone mango]

Wtf

Are these dc fans too

Oh yeah says

non pwm

https://a.co/d/4EpgCo0

[fresh timber]

I throttled the connection and it’s still laggy

[lone mango]

Cant hear rn

[fresh timber]

Linux likes to dedicate bandwidth to steam

Not leaving any for discord

Message no send

idc when the fans fail

they just need to last for how ever long the protection on the platform im using exires

yeah

but likeeee $50 argb

[lone mango]

Limit download to like 95% of your current speed

Wow you type really fast dude

[fresh timber]

No I spent

I type so slow

Slower than a snail

Slower than the flash

[lone mango]

Yeah its the lag ik

[fresh timber]

In the gastest man alive

I’m the goat

So fast

Bro

Only 100wpm

oh the messages sent

kek

Idk if my gpu will fit in that

it wont

[lone mango]

This montech case looks a lot better than I thought
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cases/leo-waldock/montech-air-100-argb-review/

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/why-dont-you-get-into-the-back-of-my-van-ghost-of-human-kindness-tweek-tweak-south-park-s6e11-gif-22002773

[lone mango]

I guess I did him good then

[fresh timber]

Did I find a winner

*i dont wanna buy fans

lmfao

[lone mango]

Montech has 4 pwm