general-chat

[rancid juniper]

it is popular

[fresh timber]

Reviewers don’t use it

[lone mango]

God this hardware stuff is such a scam

[fresh timber]

Nvidia shills lost a reason to use Nvidia

AMD has dlss

[rancid juniper]

maybe cuz its a mod idk

nah optiscaler is more of a wrapper

[lone mango]

That looks like it should be getting that many frames with no coping

[rancid juniper]

it uses DLSS for any other upscaler

DLSS > XeSS or FSR type scenario

so if the game is only has dlss you can use that tool

[rancid juniper]

i can get those frames if i turn all that RT junk off

[lone mango]

Send a screenshot of that scene with it off

[rancid juniper]

one second

[fresh timber]

Explain in idiotic terms

I don’t understand

[rancid juniper]

this tool called optiscaler is used to make DLSS or any upscaler work in two ways

If game has dlss, use tool to switch it to FSR/XeSS provided by the tool
If game has XeSS/FSR only, use tool to switch it to DLSS provided by the tool

there are many more options

[fresh timber]

Oh

So essential any game can have the latest

So I can take fsr2 game and add fsr4

[rancid juniper]

Left: PT + XeSS + FG
Right: Native + Raster (XeSS AA) @lone mango

[lone mango]

Why does raster actually look better

I thought after all of these years they would make rt look better

[rancid juniper]

No Upscaling technique in this shot

[fresh timber]

Should I get on

My pc off

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-right-you-right-i-know-thats-right-yas-gurl-gif-23655273

[rancid juniper]

if u want to

[grand kernel]

okay dude what is going on with these radeon drivers

I launched a game with overlay enabled

the overlay showed up sideways then disappeared

and now I can't open radeon software

[proud jackal]

[grand kernel]

the game is still running so I don't think it was a driver crash

but radeon software appears to have just decided it doesn't want to work anymore

[rancid juniper]

i got a video just for you

[lone mango]

Forced to use the computer

[rancid juniper]

not shameless plug

[grand kernel]

lmao

send me a link

this software is so bad there's no reason it should be taking 2 minutes to launch on sk hynix platinum p41

[proud jackal]

philippines: plastic bag

[fresh timber]

I never have aMD ISSUES

Composter

Should I try 9070xt at pcie 1x gen 3

[rancid juniper]

Left Raster:
Right PT:

legit no difference

this tech mid fr

[north crescent]

I've heard overlay is pain for amd

[pliant berry]

Imagine hiking with a camelback except instead of water in the pouch you use coke

[grand kernel]

yeah this overlay is just not working

also the game is launching at the wrong resolution now lol

[fresh timber]

And I’m having no issues with 2 gpus 😭

Yall wanna know how I power both

[grand kernel]

I can't even change the settings to change the resolution back

cause it's launching at 2560x1600 on my 1280x800 monitor so most of the screen isn't accessible

have to disable VSR and restart game

I just want in game overlay for testing cause I'm using a single tiny monitor

[fresh timber]

Set the display to the res

[rancid juniper]

$75000, I know what i got

[proud jackal]

[grand kernel]

yeah no overlay showing up even though it's enabled

[north crescent]

You high? That's $750,000

[lone mango]

Probably the most anyone that values performance should do is turn on rt shadows

[rancid juniper]

quick typo on my part, this car is one of a kind

[lone mango]

You have to turn on monitoring in adrenalin settings

[grand kernel]

this is so funny to me

yall ever just game on your case

[rancid juniper]

yea thats probably fine

[rancid juniper]

im too broke for that

[grand kernel]

the overlay did show up for 1 second before exploding

idk man

[lone mango]

I think you messed up your installation or something

[grand kernel]

bruh

I got the overlay enabled but it disappears when I tab back to the game

LOL

[lone mango]

You probably had as many issues recently as I have had over the entire course of my amd usage

[rancid juniper]

you tried my video?

[lone mango]

I have barely had any problems

[fresh timber]

My installs working fine with both my gpus

[rancid juniper]

radeon adrenaline do be finicky

[lone mango]

I would ddu and see what happens

[fresh timber]

Use Linux is the better solution

My AMD drivers work flawlessly on Linux

[lone mango]

My brother out of nowhere had crashes and black screens

Did ddu and nothing now

[lone mango]

Use linux daily and you will have some weird quirks that will stay for a very long time

I was like wow linux is amazing look at all of this

Now after I use it more it has its own jank to it

[grand kernel]

not yet but I think this is a separate issue

[rancid juniper]

ok

[lone mango]

Did you ddu

[grand kernel]

I'm just trying to get the overlay working no issues with software not launching rn

no, I'll try it later if I need to

[fresh timber]

I would but all my games are on windows and I don’t wanna reinstall

[rancid juniper]

No yipees for AMD

😔

[fresh timber]

Where the 4080 go

[lone mango]

Try it anyway

[lone mango]

And thats ultra perf right

[rancid juniper]

on the left ultra perf is used yea

[grand kernel]

I'm planning on just selling the whole system

[fresh timber]

4080 in main rig, 9070xt in rig you sell

Easy

[lone mango]

The greatest scam that has been pulled off

And so many people bought into it

Nvidia is actually a mastermind

[proud jackal]

its so warm in my room

please kill me

[lone mango]

Well

[fresh timber]

I’m a mandated reporter

[lone mango]

4090 efficiency

[fresh timber]

5090 when

[proud jackal]

its a 5090

[lone mango]

Yes

But 4090 power efficiency

[fresh timber]

When do I buy 5080

[proud jackal]

today

[lone mango]

You already have one

[icy ore]

Don’t

But if you must

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-5080-Desktop-SFF/dp/B095MH12T7/ref=asc_df_B095MH12T7?

[grand kernel]

lol

[icy ore]

Fine

[grand kernel]

why does the radeon driver love being sideways

[icy ore]

Gotta break your neck to see

[fresh timber]

Techncily the display is

[dense locust]

Linux issue or something I dunno

[lone mango]

Adrenalin does not exist on linux

[fresh timber]

Hi slimey

[lone mango]

I think a ddu is needed

[fresh timber]

AMD drivers are built into Linux

[lone mango]

Yes and amd already provided support for the 9700, 9070 gre and 9060 xt

[fresh timber]

Which is why they are so much more stable

[worn wave]

ray and path tracing can make big differences vs raster, it just depends on the scenario

[fresh timber]

They are kernel level

[worn wave]

an indoor scene being lit from outside is where rt/pt excel

[rancid juniper]

i see

[dense locust]

Windows issue or something I dunno

[lone mango]

Adrenalin issue

[grand kernel]

it's so silly that the "in-game" overlay works everywhere except for in game

[dense locust]

Ah yeah that’s a true amd moment

[lone mango]

There was a git commit that included a bug and some people were not booting

So it has its own issues

[grand kernel]

oh yeah, also apparently full screen is no longer an option

only windowed or borderless

lol

[dense locust]

[lone mango]

Swallow the pill and ddu

[dense locust]

Why does discord have a better working ui

[grand kernel]

if this is all it took to corrupt the driver to the point of needing a ddu then that's seriously embarrassing for AMD 💀

literally all I did was launch a game

[dense locust]

No Amd is an angle
User error

[fresh timber]

Its user error

Mines are fine

[grand kernel]

ahhh my bad

trying to launch a game is user error

[dense locust]

Yeah you’re supposed to launch ai

Smh

[fresh timber]

Your also overclocked

Ddu drivers

[lone mango]

Plus didnt you crash a bunch of times trying to dial it in

Who knows maybe something broke

Its not hard to do a ddu it takes a few minutes

[fresh timber]

Fr

[lone mango]

Assuming a ddu actually fixes it, that is

[fresh timber]

DDU fixed all my issues

Like if my system crashed a few times I had to reinstall drivers

[misty sparrow]

How do you have so many emojis

they always fit

[onyx merlin]

so my sister just got a 5070 TI

[fresh timber]

also use Linux if you want the best expirence

[fresh timber]

Disown her

[onyx merlin]

whats better 4080S or that or are they roughly both the same ?

I got 4080 S

[grand kernel]

i mean sure but overlay didn't work before i tried any overclocking either

[lone mango]

[grand kernel]

💀

[onyx merlin]

anyonne ?

[grand kernel]

pretty sure amd overlay just doesn't work man

[frigid stag]

About the same

[lone mango]

Brutal

[frigid stag]

If you overclock it

[onyx merlin]

12:41 AM for me.

[grand kernel]

found 8 billion results on google of people complaining amd overlay doesn't work

[onyx merlin]

well my body is still on English time as I was on vacation their for 2 weeks

its 4:41 PM here in San Jose

[worthy meteor]

It's not very good but it does work half the time

[onyx merlin]

But i just came back from UK

[dense locust]

[grand kernel]

i've gotten it to work once but it showed up sideways and very stretched

[worthy meteor]

For some reason the overlay takes opening it twice to stay open for me

[grand kernel]

wanna know how i got it to show up?

[rancid juniper]

AMD is like luck

[fresh timber]

Got a lot for Nvidia too

[grand kernel]

i had to open snipping tool

LOL

[rancid juniper]

it works on one's pc, doesn't on another

what

[grand kernel]

opening snipping tool was the only thing that ever made the overlay show up in game

[lone mango]

This is a tech moment

[grand kernel]

i'm not even joking

[fresh timber]

Works across 3 of my pcs

[lone mango]

Some random thing fixes it

[fresh timber]

D d u

Run it

Now

[misty sparrow]

Without DLSS or anything, I’d say 4080super is a bit more powerful

[rancid juniper]

strange

[grand kernel]

i have a theory as to why everything is showing up sideways

[onyx merlin]

OK Folks ryzen 7800x3d vs intel i9 14900f whats better my sister has the Ryzen...

[grand kernel]

the monitor's default orientation is sideways

[onyx merlin]

we had a micro center open up by our house

[rancid juniper]

7800x3d

[grand kernel]

i set the orientation correctly in windows

[rancid juniper]

get that

[dense locust]

Just get a 5070
4090 performance at $549

[misty sparrow]

you got any favorite ones?

[dense locust]

[onyx merlin]

@rancid juniper why is it it better ?

[grand kernel]

but i guess radeon driver is ignoring that and just following the monitor's default orientation

[onyx merlin]

I got the i9 14900f

and it works good

[rancid juniper]

CPU not on dead platform
3d vcache is WORTH it for gaming
doesn't pull crazy power compared to 14900f

[lone mango]

No need to get anything then

[onyx merlin]

dead platform ?

wtf

[lone mango]

Just if you want to upgrade, then get it

[rancid juniper]

dead platform as in there's no room to upgrade the cpu later on

[dense locust]

[onyx merlin]

I mean my thing is a prebuilt so I doubt I could put in a AMD CPU anyways.

But I only keep my rigs for 4-5 years so its mute point

[dense locust]

I kept mine for 6 years

[fresh timber]

Why’d you have now

[grand kernel]

anyways, looks like i'll just have to connect this pc to my actual monitors to be able to test gpu stability properly

[onyx merlin]

Could keep this alienware for longer thought it all depends on how my fianices are

[rancid juniper]

i guess but imo the better investment is to go with an am5 cpu but thats up to you

[dense locust]

Probably will with my new 5080 pc

[onyx merlin]

but I try to make sure I gave a nice healthy little amount stashed away to eventually get a new pc .

Afterall desktops are very important

[grand kernel]

VSR not working properly is disappointing

[lone mango]

Damn bruh

[fresh timber]

Your pc is broken

[onyx merlin]

But from now on future PCS going to buy from Micro center or just get the people their to built rig for me ?

[fresh timber]

Did the damn drivers

[onyx merlin]

DOes microcenter built pcs for u ?

[dense locust]

This is what I said just unironically

[onyx merlin]

if you give them the parts ?

[fresh timber]

Yes

[fresh timber]

Yes

Yes

[lone mango]

I guess you are one of those guys that have some amd driver nightmare

[onyx merlin]

FIRETRUCK YES

[fresh timber]

Yes

[onyx merlin]

Going to use microcenter from now on in future

for any new pcs..

[fresh timber]

I only used AMD desktops, only had major issues with rdna2

[onyx merlin]

can just but whatever parts I want from newegg or the microcenter give them parts and get them to built me pc and I can come pick it up later in the day or week

[misty sparrow]

These are pretty cool, don’t watch anime but I have to admit that

[onyx merlin]

much faster then ordering a gaming rig online

[worthy tapir]

My 5700xt had driver issues but my 6750xt and 7900xt no issues

[nocturne flicker]

I have had no issues with my current GPU

[dense locust]

I’m just a weeb now

[nocturne flicker]

Motherboards on the otherhand

[lone mango]

rx580, 6600, 6700 xt, all on the same windows installation and even change motherboards twice on this installation from 2018

I have no problems

[onyx merlin]

But for now my alienware is still pure amazing... still kinda pissed off

[dense locust]

No issues with current? What about with performance?

[fresh timber]

My 6600 had them. 7700xy and 9070xy didn’t

[onyx merlin]

I wish microcenter had opened back when I was shopping for a new rig back in november of last year

oh well

[worthy tapir]

I love microcenter

Im very lucky to live close to one

[acoustic palm]

It costs 250$

[fresh timber]

Hi quicker

[nocturne flicker]

No complaint. If anything my 5800x3d held me back in more scenarios because I used to be doing 1080p gaming and cpu heavier/single threaded gaming

[acoustic palm]

Hi

[onyx merlin]

I got one now by me as well that just opened up reason I was pissed they had massive good sales like my sister got the 5070 TI 32GB ram and that Ryzen 7800x3d plus 2TB of storage all for 1800 I think

So I wish it had opened when I was getting a new rig could have scored good deal

lol

[acoustic palm]

wtf your sister got scammed

My build cost 1587 with my heavy overspending on the looks

[onyx merlin]

I mean the 5070 TI is a MSI one

arent those like the best version ?

[acoustic palm]

Version of card barely matters

[nocturne flicker]

Gaming at 1080p on older games that rely heavily on one core and one thread is harmed by a cpu with reduced frequency and no OC capability, who knew

[onyx merlin]

also god dam I feel like utter garbage

the jet leg is hitting me hardcore

[fresh timber]

My dual gpu pc cost less

[dense locust]

I run my 9800x3d at 4.7 ghz

[tranquil pebble]

Tried a Minecraft modpack on a newer version of MC and it seems like the modern Java version has fewer GC problems than Java 8 did

[nocturne flicker]

My 5800x3d usually caps out at 4.4. Also I undervolt

[fresh timber]

My 13600kf runs 5.1ghz

[tranquil pebble]

449 mods, and also running a server with that many mods

[nocturne flicker]

At least it isn't dropping down to .2ghz at idle anymore

[tranquil pebble]

idling at low clocks isnt an issue

[tranquil pebble]

2016? Damn, AM4 is old now.

[nocturne flicker]

Wait, sorry, it was .06ghz

[fresh timber]

Fr

[lone mango]

Yeah pretty crazy

Although zen came out in 2017

Not really sure what was used before it, or if they just made the platform first and then released cpus for it

[onyx merlin]

is 42-45C idle for CPU bad ? its 93F outside

[tranquil pebble]

There were A series CPUs for AM4

That said, it would have been silly to get AM4 with one of those IMO

[lone mango]

Ah ok

[dense locust]

I set my clock to .2 for the funny

It was terrible

(It actually ran at .6)

[acoustic palm]

200w is mental

[tranquil pebble]

Try using a CPU that runs at 233 MHz with Windows 98. Painful times those were.

[nocturne flicker]

It wasn't actually pulling 200w

It was 33c

[fresh timber]

You have good cooling

[tranquil pebble]

also single channel, SDRAM, not even DDR1

[fresh timber]

@acoustic palm I’m in bed

[lone mango]

That is the craziest 5800x3d ever

[nocturne flicker]

There was a problem with the mobo reporting the wattage which made the CPU throttle to nothing whenever at idle

[lone mango]

[nocturne flicker]

The moment something was actually being done it reported properly

[tranquil pebble]

firmware issue?

[nocturne flicker]

I dunno but the board died a little bit after that

[fresh timber]

Do I

[tranquil pebble]

so that would be hw issue then

[nocturne flicker]

Shut it off one day to swap the ssds around because I was using faulty SSDs, never turned back on after

[tranquil pebble]

wouldnt surprise me if a VRM bit the dust

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe. It was an ASUS Tuf and my first one had the primary PCIe slot just randomly die a couple months in

[tranquil pebble]

I dont trust Asus boards anymore ngl

[nocturne flicker]

I don't either

[lone mango]

I am starting to lose trust in asrock boards

[nocturne flicker]

I've sworn off them

Stares at my Taichi

[lone mango]

[dense locust]

The doctor just regenerated to his ex
What are the lore implications?

[lone mango]

What

[nocturne flicker]

What

[lone mango]

[dense locust]

https://youtu.be/XgLpmL9p3Go?feature=shared

[tranquil pebble]

MSI still treating me good though

[lone mango]

I am glad gn is pressing asrock

He said he doesn't buy what they are saying and will keep pressing

[nocturne flicker]

Oh I just looked it up

[lone mango]

I think they are scared to come out or something

[nocturne flicker]

Guess I'm not watching DW again. I didn't like Piper

[lone mango]

You can reach out to them and they will quickly take care of the issue, no problem

[dense locust]

Bad wolf or something idk

[lone mango]

They also pay for shipping

But they dont want to tell everyone what is going on

Its weird

[nocturne flicker]

I didn't care for Rose as a character and didn't like the Bad Wolf stuff

[dense locust]

I don’t really understand it

It’s been years since I’ve watched dr who tho

Capaldi was my favorite

[nocturne flicker]

Time Space God magic stuff with mildly dim blonde

Don't get me started on how they made a 900+ year old alien have a relationship with a 18-19 year old

The moment I stop to think about it makes me a bit creeped

[dense locust]

As opposed to the alternative With this new revelation
of him having a relationship with himself

[fresh timber]

Do I test my vram at 4k

[nocturne flicker]

Though Gatwa leaving was not a surprise. He's had scheduling issues practically the entire time he's been doing it iirc

Though I do hope it isn't another haha, just the Doctor for two or three specials bit

They've been popping extra Doctors like candy

[fresh timber]

Doctor who

[nocturne flicker]

Your primary care physician

That's who

[fresh timber]

I don’t have one

I just became adult

[upper rain]

did you get the 9070 xt finally?

[fresh timber]

Yes this is my first full day with it

[upper rain]

sweet

how are you liking it?

[fresh timber]

I can't enjoy cause the cpusucks

[upper rain]

lol

5800x?

[fresh timber]

I have to wait till I go to my moms house

[fresh timber]

5500

[upper rain]

ah that's right

[fresh timber]

I was goin buy a 5800x tho

[upper rain]

yeah bit of a bottleneck there haha

[fresh timber]

But I remembered when I go home I’ll have a 13600kf

[upper rain]

mm don't bother. AM4 not worth investing in unless you score a deal or 5700x3d's go to $130 again

[fresh timber]

Guess

[fresh timber]

If I find that I’ll cop and sell this system with a 7700xt

[upper rain]

very nice

[fresh timber]

I can do this

[upper rain]

lovely

[fresh timber]

Risers are fun

[upper rain]

this is my masterpiece

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

[upper rain]

was troubleshooting for my lil brother lol

and i couldn't be bothered to unmount the 4060 ti

[fresh timber]

I need help

I wanna mount 7700xt

But the 16x slot is at bottom

You think a 1x to 16x adapter and a long screw will let me do it

[upper rain]

i think you should follow your heart

(do it it would be funny)

[fresh timber]

lol

I want a saw to cut the 1x slot

[upper rain]

lol that's what i did with that miku pc above. that case does NOT support vert mounting

[fresh timber]

Molll

Omg I could vertical mount the gpu

I like how the 9070xt looks

[upper rain]

it's not a vapour chamber card is it?

[fresh timber]

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S956520ebf40e43c9a0871c01556a360bY.jpg

[fresh timber]

Nope

It has ptm tho

[upper rain]

neato

[fresh timber]

I made sure of that

[upper rain]

(you should short those pins)

[fresh timber]

Performs well for the cpu it has

[fresh timber]

I’m considering lmfao

My hotspot is a bit high but that’s from no airflow

[upper rain]

literally all you need is a wire or like a staple or smth and a piece of tape lol

[upper rain]

real

[fresh timber]

I got thermal room left

[upper rain]

with ptm definitely

[fresh timber]

I’m hitting 86c with the 7700xt on top

[nocturne flicker]

Dude, everything is literally spinning around, how did they mess up the music choice

[fresh timber]

No room

Lmfao

[upper rain]

big cooler

[upper rain]

i have a vid for that song too but i can't find it

not this

[fresh timber]

If I had money I wanted to spend I would buy a air cooler

Unfortunately AIO works so why replace

[upper rain]

i meant the GPU cooler but yeah that too, nice aio

[fresh timber]

Oh

Yeah gpu big

I wanted big boy for when I overclocked and mod it

[upper rain]

i'm considering making a mounting bracket to put my AIO on my 9070 for shiz and gigs

[fresh timber]

I bet part of my issue is my fan curve is low

[upper rain]

true true

[fresh timber]

If they make water blocks and I watercool my desktop I’ll do it

[upper rain]

there are a few out already

[fresh timber]

Idk much

How do I know a block will work with my gpu

[upper rain]

i would consider it but i don't know how to set a custom loop up

[upper rain]

listed compatibility or equivalent PCB design

if ut PCB is exactly the same as the PCB on a listed compatible card then ur good

[fresh timber]

When people start selling the coolers for my pcb I could just buy a vapor chamber

[fresh timber]

Oh

[upper rain]

but a lot of the AIB cards are semi-custom reference PCBs, so slightly different. have to be careful

[fresh timber]

I think Xfx uses the same pcb just diffrent coolers which means diffrent power profiles

Of course difference pcb for 3+8 pin cards

[upper rain]

sounds about right. probably with a power stage removed or added here and there, but that won't affect compatibility

[upper rain]

yes that too

[fresh timber]

2+8 pin could Handel the higher tdp I bet

Easily

It’s handling running two gpus at once for me

[upper rain]

2x 8 pins are better in every way than 1x 12vhflr connector

the same is trye of 2x 6 pinsp

[fresh timber]

Fr

[dusk knot]

worst season of all time

[fresh timber]

I wanna mod the bios to be a better gpu

I want the 360w

[upper rain]

broski just tape some metal to ur card i'll walk you through it

send me a picture of ur pcb (i'll also see if i can find one online) and i'll show you what to bridge

[fresh timber]

I don’t have metal right now lmfao

[upper rain]

no wires?

[fresh timber]

No I’ll have to order some

[upper rain]

isk maybe i'm weird but i always collected spare wiring lol

you can also use like a staple or smth

[fresh timber]

I could just splice my psu

I have a psu I savaged

Not good for anything

Good wire tho

[upper rain]

fair enough yeah that'll work

you'll barely need any also

[fresh timber]

How you learn to do this

[upper rain]

normal shunt modding i learned through YT a year or two ago, this is a little different but i sort of just picked up things over the year and figured it out

[fresh timber]

I love removing the illegal warranty stickers

[upper rain]

in a perfect world you'd shunt mod just like with Nvidia cards, but AMD's shunt resistors are a pain to piggyback, and replacing resistors is a pain. so i just traced out the shunts to see if they led anywhere, since 2mohm shunts probably have an amplifyinh circuit somewhere to strengthen the signal, and behold, two pins that appear to lead directly to the two terminals of the shunt resistor

so you just short those the same way as you would a shunt resistor, and electrically you get pretty much the same effect just in a slightly different way

[fresh timber]

Does the card report the extra power

[upper rain]

no

kinda but it's not reliable

[fresh timber]

O

[upper rain]

the drive thinks it's pulling som arbitrary low number (in my case 4w, but i soldered, a weaker connection with more resistance will probs be reported as somewhat higher). but hwinfo64 has some other sensors that measure power differently, and they are seemingly not accurate, but not totally broken either

[fresh timber]

You soldered yours damn

[upper rain]

extrapolating from people that have the hardware to measure wall power or power from their 8 pins directly, i should be pulling between 300-500w depending on my settings, but hwinfo peaks at like 290w, which is barely above stock PL

[fresh timber]

You should get the wireview

[upper rain]

i also soldered for my evc, which requires soldering for signal integrity. figured if my warranty is goimh to be mega gone i might as well do the PL mod the 'right' way too

[fresh timber]

I need to see how long my warranty last

After it’s over I wanna bios mod

[upper rain]

i will at some point but i jisy haven't yet. i bought a hardware flasher earlier to try to fix the weird boost algo behavior the non XT cards seem to have

[upper rain]

unfortunately i'm pretty sure RDNA 4 bios is locked down again :/ maybe we'll get MPT semi-working this gen tho, i was told Igor was working on it but i haven't checked in too much

[fresh timber]

It’s funny how amd limited the 9070 to look power efficient

[fresh timber]

Damn

Best we can do is flash a higher cards bios

[upper rain]

tbf it is very efficient. it's 15% weaker than the XT and pulls like 220w lol

[fresh timber]

Oh,

These cards have alot of oc room

A lot more than my previous cards

[upper rain]

yeah for sure

the effing driver is my limiting factor right now ffs

they're incredible little GPUs

[fresh timber]

Fr

[upper rain]

i really hope the rumors are true and AMD is working on some late gen N4X refresh

[fresh timber]

I think AMD played conservative with them

[fresh timber]

You see 9080xt rumors

[upper rain]

yeah. just a die shrunk maybe GDDR7 N48. which is still good. if it launches i personally think it'll be on N4X, and i'm unsure about GDDR7 support

[fresh timber]

You think amd should have used 7

[proud jackal]

[upper rain]

not really, no

[fresh timber]

Is 7 really that impressive

[upper rain]

i think GDDR6 makes sense. better to undercut nvidia at same performance than to beat them at the same price imo

plus way better supply on GDDR6

[upper rain]

it has a lot of bandwidth but i think the latency is a bit higher? it is on Blackwell at least, but that may not be GDDR7's fault per se, more so just the way they set up their memory subsystem

[fresh timber]

Oh

[upper rain]

apparenty a lot of why Blackwell's performance is so all over the place is because the L2 or L1 (i forget which) cache latency is up to 20-30% higher than on Ada. so memory operations sometimes have to pick up the slack on certain clock cycles. and iirc GDDR7 latency doesn't really make that super super compelling from a performance perspective

[fresh timber]

Only real advantage is that 3gb chip right

[upper rain]

more bandwidth, more density

also moar price tho

[fresh timber]

lol

Like ddr4 vs ddr5, it’s better, more dense. But it cost more

[upper rain]

i think more efficient, but Micron didn't publish their whitepapers publicly this time (probably told not to bc they jsut straight up publish JEDEC info you have to pay for access to lmfao) so i haven't been able to get into the weeds

[proud jackal]

[upper rain]

yeah. DDR5 isn't too bad though because adjusted for inflation and how far along we are in the DDR5 lifecycle it's pretty competitive with DDR4. DDR4 just lasted quite a while and got really cheap because datacenters also exploded a lot in that era

[upper rain]

you swapped from Core Ultra to a x3D didn'r you?

[fresh timber]

With 3gb chips can’t you mod 2gb cards

[upper rain]

if they have the registers for it and are also GDDR7, yes

i don't know if the current Nvidia cards have registers for it tho

[fresh timber]

Utah

[upper rain]

the 5090 might since RTX 6000 uses 3Gb chips

[fresh timber]

L

Would that mean 5090 can get more than 32

[upper rain]

if the PCB is the same then probably you could go to 48, yeah

it depends on if Nvidia left some stuff on the board and bios

[fresh timber]

Ooo

Don’t people make custom bios for that stuff

[upper rain]

with 16GB modded cards you had to change some resistors to basically tell the vbios chip which memory registers to reference jn its programming. but those registers already existed, and the resistors were already on the board, because they shared some design aspects with the Pro GPUs

idk how much of that is present on this gen. i don't own any of those cards

[fresh timber]

30 series has a lot of mod capable cards.

[dusk knot]

hm

[upper rain]

yah, because Nvidia was rarted and used 8Gb ICs on 16Gb capable GPUs except for like one SKU lol. so all of them had support for the 16Gb ones, Nvidia just never used it except for the 3060. and the 3090 ti i guess, but that's 6X not 6

[misty sparrow]

I wonder if you get better 1440p and 4K performance on 16GB modded cards compared to stock 8GB

[upper rain]

4060 ti 8 vs 16GB is your proxy sample

3060 ti and 3070 are basically the same performance

the thing about those modded 60 ti's and 70's tho is that they don't have idle pstates, so they always eat like 100w or something silly

[fresh timber]

Wasn’t it the 3060ti and 3070 modable

[upper rain]

not a problem if you just game but if you use your PC for work or school and stuff then that adds up. will heat your room up over time

[upper rain]

yeah, because the Ampere cards all had registers for 16Gb chips. Nvidia just refused to use them except for on 3060

[fresh timber]

Lollll

[fresh timber]

Can u mod a 3080 and 3090

[upper rain]

no, when those released only 8Gb GDDR6X ICs existed, so the programming for 16Gb ones did not yet exist

[fresh timber]

Wow

Are their any modern mods able and cards

[upper rain]

the funny thing is, because the 3090 ti supports 16Gb GDDR6X, you can put it (or a 4090 as a matter of fact) on a 3090 PCB, and use clamshelled GDDR6X 16Gb modules for a total of 48GB of vram

[fresh timber]

Not that u need to mod amd sense they give us vram

[upper rain]

not that i know of. the GDDR6 Ada's already use 16Gb ICs, so does RDNA 4/3. and Blackwell is either GDDR7 or 16Gb GDDR6 again

4090 is kinda recent i guess

that one you can put on a 3090 pcb and give it 48GB

[sinful blade]

Thanks to the folks last night and fata1fr3ak, there have been over 35 offenders banned

[fresh timber]

Can you mod rdna2

[upper rain]

offenders of what?

[tranquil pebble]

rule breaking prolly

[upper rain]

not that i know of, i'm pretty sure they all already use 16Gb ICs

yeah but what rules

[fresh timber]

O

U Can mod rdna2

MTP

[upper rain]

oh MPT works ueah

i thought you meant memory doubling

[fresh timber]

That’s what I ment

[upper rain]

oh

[fresh timber]

But rdna2 gives mpt

[upper rain]

yah

[fresh timber]

I wish rdna4 did

[upper rain]

yah

[fresh timber]

Why lock us out what we own

They let you dump 500v into your cpu, why not gpu

[upper rain]

although the selfish side of me is hlad it doesn'r because it means i get free benchmark wins lol

[upper rain]

they could add fuses that pop when you enable out of spec voltage control. they do this on their CPUs already, and also use them to lock CPUs to certain boards

it's easy to implement. i wish they would, and then also give us basically unlocked contol over the boost algo

but AMD hates overclockers so whatever

and Nvidia is too busy rolling in AI bux to care

[fresh timber]

Yeah

Pop a fuse idc

Just means I can’t lie for warranty claim

[upper rain]

real

but with the power of taped wires you can lie all you want

[misty sparrow]

Don’t know what that means

So 4060ti 16gig does better than 8gig?

[upper rain]

take a look at 8 vs 16GB 4060 ti benchmarks and you'll see pretty much exactly what an 8 vs 16GB 3060 ti or 3070 would be like, since they're all within a few % of each other

[upper rain]

yes

[upper rain]

i already sent that homie

beat you to the punch

[fresh timber]

I want a 4060ti 16gb, cheapest 16gb Nvidia I can think of

[lone mango]

[tranquil pebble]

I know, I sent the corrected count of bees

[hoary zodiac]

Does anyone here own a kettle

[upper rain]

you can buy mine

i'll even mod it for ya if you want

[fresh timber]

I boil water

On a stove

[upper rain]

ah i see

[fresh timber]

Kek, no

[upper rain]

yes

[tranquil pebble]

still a lot of bees though lol

[upper rain]

bee free

[fresh timber]

I only want 4060ti 16gb to ai with

[upper rain]

sometimes... something happens

[fresh timber]

If I get a lot of money I want a cluster of them

[upper rain]

generating your waifu in real time?

[hoary zodiac]

Jensen R34

[fresh timber]

Yup

[fresh timber]

Unironically I wanna do a cluster of my AMD gpus

I just need another adapter and I can run 3

[onyx merlin]

meh.

[hoary zodiac]

what about Beez

[lone mango]

Stop

[onyx merlin]

Got a new keyboard and mouse... nothing grand or anything but sister did not want the one that came with her computer.

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

[upper rain]

be me
me bee
bee free
freebie
eeby deeby
now i sleeby

[lone mango]

Wow

[upper rain]

beez nuts

[lone mango]

He did it

[hoary zodiac]

he did it

[tranquil pebble]

most kbs included with prebuilts suck tbf

[upper rain]

i did it

[fresh timber]

He did it

[onyx merlin]

I know but I never been picky really I use them just fine... and when I really want chill I just use my xbox controller to game if I get board of mouse and keyboard

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/he-did-it-gif-25741033

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-megamind-prison-prison-walk-away-prison-leave-gif-2754128254034863595

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/3SpXMu0NxLY?si=OzxJWHWW6pT29CIw

oh my god

[fresh timber]

I wonder if my riser can do 5.0 x1

[upper rain]

lmfao

just kill me now

UE5 is so freaking cool but devs suck so bad

[fresh timber]

Oh shoot,

[upper rain]

tbf UE5's documentation is utter garbage but come on

[fresh timber]

Only Fortnite runs it well, maybe even Valorant

Valorant is swapping and they claim better performance

[upper rain]

UE5 is also pretty much purpose built for that game lol, they just publish it for use elsewhere

[fresh timber]

Yeah

I’m getting 600 fps on it

[hoary zodiac]

UE5 is pretty much the new unity

[fresh timber]

I wonder how much fps my new gpu gets

[dusk knot]

notice how the game graphics suck

[upper rain]

they probably actually programmed instead of just letting wasted interns have at it

[dusk knot]

but somehow....4k 30fps

[upper rain]

ue5 moment

[dusk knot]

on max

[upper rain]

i hate temporal blur so much

[fresh timber]

They have to keep the game running on potato’s so checks out

[upper rain]

yeah fr lol

[hoary zodiac]

Remember back in the 2000s

[upper rain]

UE5 can do a lot of graphics with not a ton of horsepower, but you have to actually optimize your game

[hoary zodiac]

when game devs used to optimized for every bit of processing power

[upper rain]

otherwise it's extremey extremely bloated

[hoary zodiac]

now we just throw frame gen at it

and hope it works

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[fresh timber]

If valorant adds raytracing id not it

[hoary zodiac]

RT

competitve games

[fresh timber]

I have 9070xt.. I meat recommended finally

[hoary zodiac]

watch nobody use it

[fresh timber]

Fortnite

[upper rain]

fortnite has it

[fresh timber]

Competing game

[hoary zodiac]

the hell?

[fresh timber]

Has it

[hoary zodiac]

who actually uses it

[fresh timber]

Me when I’m not playing comp

[hoary zodiac]

because that's the type of game where people run at low

[fresh timber]

Depends on what u play, Fortnite is Roblox now

[hoary zodiac]

eh?

[upper rain]

i do bc it runs well and i only have a 144hz monitor anyway. i get 180ish FPS locked at 1440p native with all the pretties turned up

[hoary zodiac]

they added child exploitation?

[fresh timber]

For me I’m cpu limited right now so I can run higher with out any fps drop

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/he-dropped-the-soap-gif-23277002

[fresh timber]

Cod runs the same fps with medium and extreme

[upper rain]

i keep some of the RT stuff not maxed because the shadows/lighting is really aggresive and some areas get pitch black. but it's still doing lumen ray tracing stuff

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

[upper rain]

moment

i remember when i had my i5 4570 i would run fortnite with the old RTX fortnite implementation almost maxed out because i would get 50fps either way lol

but that was like 6 years ago. i barely play anymore except for when my siblings are around/want to play online

[lone mango]

Yeah its off when on low

[fresh timber]

Leann

I’m waiting to use my cou

I’ll hit 1440p 240 in everything

Piece of cake

[hoary zodiac]

Meanwhile

[fresh timber]

You run 9 fps slop

[upper rain]

frame genned to 120

[hoary zodiac]

nah

[fresh timber]

You use nvidia boomer

Right

[hoary zodiac]

I don't play slop

[fresh timber]

Ur laptop

[upper rain]

he plays kino

[fresh timber]

Skop

[upper rain]

boomerslop

zoomergemmy

[hoary zodiac]

My games could run at 300fps

if I wanted them to

[fresh timber]

Do it

[upper rain]

the most played game in my steam library came out in 2006 and still runs like absolute garbage because of engine limitations

[fresh timber]

You have the display

[upper rain]

my 7800x3D is my first CPU i've had that can actually play it well

and i think it's just because cache go brrr

[fresh timber]

One of my fav games is 60fps locked and I’m mad

I don’t wanna framegen it

[upper rain]

unironically one of the only use cases where framegen is valid

[dusk knot]

do it

[hoary zodiac]

No

[fresh timber]

Ur laptop is 300hz don’t lie

[fresh timber]

Disgusting

[hoary zodiac]

This works

[fresh timber]

I’m lazy

[upper rain]

me too

what model is ur 9070 xt btw

going to try to find pcb pics

[fresh timber]

9070xt quicksilver magnetic

[sinful blade]

Lotta rule 1 and 2

[upper rain]

ywah haha, wouldn't know anything about that

https://tenor.com/view/boneclinks-bceu-bones-nate-plutonium_239-gif-22693211

[fresh timber]

How bad would it be to run multiply heaters

[upper rain]

whar

whats that

[fresh timber]

Space heaters

Woah the breaker isn’t tripping

I gotta run my pc prob

I swapped to a bigger heater

That one should be enough to warm me

[upper rain]

triple 8 pin nice

[dusk knot]

hm

[dusk knot]

you shared a pic of your 9700xt yet?

[fresh timber]

Wot

No it hot

Did I say the wrong one

I think it’s the mangnetic one

The fans are magnet

[upper rain]

oh i see

quick not merc

[upper rain]

i can't find PCB pics for it online. whenever you have the chance and are interested in modding, just send me a photo of the PCB around the power connectors (both front and back of the card) and i'll show you where to put ur wire

talking this area of the PCB

[fresh timber]

Ima take it apart in second

Can you reuse PTM

lol

[lone mango]

No

[fresh timber]

I don’t be showing back then

[lone mango]

Oh do you mean if you take off the heatsink and put it back on

[upper rain]

yah

it just melts back together

[fresh timber]

Yes

I know u can’t with paste

[upper rain]

u can with paste

[fresh timber]

Oh

[lone mango]

Then yeah should come back together

[upper rain]

just have to respread it is all

ptm just melts back into shape tho

so not necessary

[fresh timber]

Why do they still include the illegal stickers

[worn wave]

The stickers themselves aren't illegal afaik

They just aren't enforceable

[fresh timber]

You know what I mean

[worn wave]

Because it still keeps some people from opening the card

[hoary zodiac]

Deterrence 👍

[fresh timber]

I’m looking for a screw driver that works

[hoary zodiac]

NO WAY

FNAF 6 is 7 years old

wtf?????

[upper rain]

oh

[grand kernel]

well I figured out why fullscreen was missing from options

[upper rain]

🚬

[grand kernel]

and also figured out why the overlay wasn't working

but uhh my overlay is still sideways and stretched lol

[fresh timber]

Did you did

Ddu

[grand kernel]

no

[fresh timber]

Non of my screw drivers work

I can’t take gpu apart

[grand kernel]

lol I tabbed out trying to take a screenshot and now the overlay is tiny and in the top left corner

and still sideways

[upper rain]

it's not just a stabdard philips?

[fresh timber]

It’s is, it’s just tiny

[upper rain]

can relate

i mean what?

[fresh timber]

Tiny

[upper rain]

you can use a tiny flathead instead if u have one of those

[grand kernel]

what a silly overlay

[fresh timber]

That’s because the display is techncily rotated

It’s not listening to your rotation settings

[fresh timber]

More

I need a precision kit

Sad

[upper rain]

all the horror

[fresh timber]

How I fit the 7700xt

[grand kernel]

yeah I mean I get it, that's still something I would consider a driver bug though

[upper rain]

driver or winblows?

[grand kernel]

the overlay works completely fine and obeys my screen rotation setting outside of game

it's only wrong in game

[fresh timber]

I mean if you idk uninstalled the driver and reinstalled them it might fix

But you know that’s not possible

[grand kernel]

you seem quite convinced that there simply cannot be a flaw with radeon drivers

[fresh timber]

All the flaws I expirence was solved with a reinstall. Iv used rdna 2-4 in very familiar with the drivers

[grand kernel]

you're not the only one that has owned many radeon cards

[upper rain]

@fresh timber somebody in the AMD server has a 9060 xt with working drivers and they're benching it for me lmfao

[fresh timber]

Did they post it

[grand kernel]

I've had 1 5600xt, 3 5700xt, 1 rx 6600, and now a 9070xt

this 9070xt is doing a pretty good job of path tracing though

42 fps at 2560x1600 with fsr3 quality and no frame gen

[upper rain]

yeah dude they're overclocking it and running benches rn

i asked if they could earlier and they've been at it ig

[grand kernel]

that's very close to the 4080

[fresh timber]

What the mods say lmfao

[upper rain]

not saying anything/not present

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

They get mad when u talk about leaks their

[upper rain]

oh really?

[fresh timber]

Yes

[upper rain]

cringe

[fresh timber]

They will delete post if leaks

I’m banned their, I’ll prob make a alt or something

i was told pcie bandwith doesnt mattre much

so i did this

[upper rain]

basedge

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-meme-funny-text-gif-27529580

[acoustic palm]

damn

[royal crow]

ok, i ordered the keychron v6 qmk, and I'm rmaing my blackwidow.

[hoary zodiac]

based?

[royal crow]

poor thing wwas good for five entire months lol.

[fresh timber]

i added optiscaler

[royal crow]

it still works... but ass you can see there's issues with the keys, especiallly the w and l keys. and it sucks for gaming when it does that.

[hoary zodiac]

Razer's good at making cheap plastic crap

They're good at making mice

that's it

everything else is just cheap plastic

[wary orchid]

guys are there are good priced 7700xt prebuilts rn? Around 1k$

[hoary zodiac]

not prebuilts no

[wary orchid]

aw damn

[hoary zodiac]

This is probably the some of the worst time to look for prebuilts

In a regular year a lot of prebuilts already try to rip you off

With the gpu prices in 2025 it's even worse now

[fresh timber]

ill make a 7700xt prebuilt

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber my life is complete

[fresh timber]

How

[acoustic palm]

martincitopants factorio video

🙏

we pray for times like these

[wary orchid]

guys am i allowed to ask about other website’s pcs here or nah

[acoustic palm]

no one really cares

[wary orchid]

got it

[acoustic palm]

but uh... other websites pcs wont be good almost all the time

[wary orchid]

https://periphio.com/gaming-pcs/nova-7600-prebuilt-amd-gaming-pc?setCurrencyId=1&sku=PER-0000360-32-1T-1&utm_source=chatgpt.com

is this worth it or nah

[acoustic palm]

HELL no

not even close

[fresh timber]

@upper rain I have a lot more headroom, 100% fan speed max load barley 70c

[wary orchid]

right thanks

[upper rain]

nice

i'm going to bed now. sleep well

[acoustic palm]

just build your own pc, its so much better than prebuilts, prebuilts mean bad quality parts + high prices

[acoustic palm]

wtf

[fresh timber]

im colder than yours

[acoustic palm]

why does my pc tunings reset all the time

[misty sparrow]

why the hell does bo3 still cost this much on a sale

[fresh timber]

lol

this gpu runs so cold

god damn

[misty sparrow]

how cold

just put a big ice cube on it, works for me

[fresh timber]

Scroll up

[misty sparrow]

105.8F, basically nevada weather in there

pretty good all things considered

[fresh timber]

Egpu

[misty sparrow]

nightmare build

[fresh timber]

its perfectly normal

[misty sparrow]

my brother in christ, the GPU is turned on and it's sitting outside of the build

what if it tips over

[fresh timber]

dominos

[mental yoke]

i do that all the time to fill my gpu block

well… the fans are on the rad but same idea

[pastel smelt]

may be worst time to look for prebuilts

but for selling prebuilts

its the best time

gpu shortage is scaring off potential builders

and if they dont know what parts are worth the money

they could easily buy a prebuilt

even if its not the most value

you can get

[hoary zodiac]

same with gpus

if you bought a 4080 a couple years ago

you can sell it without a loss

[pastel smelt]

if you bought a 4080 you shouldnt buy anything else for at least until like the 6080

[pastel smelt]

well actually

seeing as how optimization wtih games

unreal engine 5

[wary orchid]

good or nah?

[hoary zodiac]

well depends

[pastel smelt]

and just poor modern day game optimization

[acoustic palm]

no

[wary orchid]

😢

[pastel smelt]

your probably gonna have to upgrade every gen

[hoary zodiac]

If you play exclusive on 4k@240

[pastel smelt]

considering devs gave up

on optimizing games

[hoary zodiac]

then it may be worth it to get a 5090

[pastel smelt]

just leave it all to gpu

[wary orchid]

why not tho

[hoary zodiac]

That's why I don't play AAA

[pastel smelt]

the 3 thousand dollar card with the 2k msrp :sad:

[acoustic palm]

absolutely terrible value?

[hoary zodiac]

2K msrp

sells for 3K

the card's not even worth the msrp

💀

[pastel smelt]

yeah 😭

[lone mango]

Fr

[pastel smelt]

before i bought my 5080

i was rocking a 2060

thats true upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

7900XT/XTX and RTX 4070TI/Super/4080/TI owners be like

[pastel smelt]

i cant wait to see how the 5080 will actually run

[hoary zodiac]

I never do upgrades unless it's at least 2x

[pastel smelt]

god i hope my mobo wont kill itself

[hoary zodiac]

with only one exception

HD 7850 > RX 570 > RX 5700 XT > RTX 3070 mobile

[wary orchid]

thats the best value i could find, can you find anything else better prebuilt?

[lone mango]

A lot of people I see getting cards like the xtx were coming from cards like that

[dense locust]

i did 1070 -> 5080
small upgrade shouldve skipped

[pastel smelt]

2060 to 5080

is like 4x

[acoustic palm]

why prebuilt, also yes i can easily

[pastel smelt]

probably

[lone mango]

Massive improvements

[pastel smelt]

real

[hoary zodiac]

see

I'm still on 2020 prices

I'm not paying over $399 for a gpu

[dense locust]

im keeping this gpu for as long as i can

[hoary zodiac]

my 3070 mobile is way too overkill for what I use it for

I use the igpu most of the time

ironically I'd upgrade my gpu to intel

for quicksync/compute

probably not in a gaming sense tho

[wary orchid]

because im not tryna build a pc, seems too difficult and it would just be easier to plug and play

i woukd appreciate if u could find one

[acoustic palm]

its not difficult

[hoary zodiac]

ok

instead of telling him to "just build a pc"

perhaps illustrate that how much they rip him off

[acoustic palm]

youre spending

400+ premium for worse quality and performing parts

[hoary zodiac]

$1000 pc

thermaltake smart

[acoustic palm]

building a pc is not diffiuclt, selecting the parts is much harder of a process

[hoary zodiac]

It's easy to build a pc

it's harder to build a good pc

[worn night]

gah

too relatable