general-chat

[lavish stag]

is just screen timeout enough?

or do I need to turn on screen saver on windows'

[fresh timber]

Which laptop? If its a modern oled panel it’s probably has features built in to prevent it along with you having it time out, it’s perfect

[paper verge]

i thought oled burns were fake\

[lavish stag]

yoga 9i 2 in 1 aura

[lavish stag]

im just more so worried about burn in on task bar

[worthy meteor]

There's going to be a bunch of built in settings you can look at

Usually at minimum there's auto dim and the auto refresh cycles

And you'll want to auto hide task bar

[lavish stag]

is this built into windows?

these settings

[worthy meteor]

No, built into the panel

Laptop it'll probably be in the bloat software it came with

Auto hide task bar is a normal windows setting

[lavish stag]

kk

ill guess ill look into the awesome lenovo vantage

thanks

there we go

[elfin mural]

that's smart

i haven't seen any oled laptops use that as a feature

[lone mango]

Jordan

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/303536282036862996/1375842836557336709/20250521_163701.jpg?ex=68347a7e&is=683328fe&hm=0f6849febcf6e14bdffd83f944323a90f69a64e14ad16b7f83bb5768bda3804e&

[fresh timber]

By getting a job

[lone mango]

Ok this cat is cozy tho

[fresh timber]

Fr

[lone mango]

Corsair sf750 bidding for 120 rn

Ends in 15 hours

[paper verge]

Waddup

[lavish stag]

should I worry about burn in on my search engine?

with the bookmarks and stuff

[mental yoke]

yea if ur using oled search engine

use random jitter to keep it good

[lavish stag]

what's random jitter

[mental yoke]

whatevertf lg does on their c series

well they use pixel shift but w/e

i welcome the burn in

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hell-yeah-destruction-chaos-gif-8718346

[elfin mural]

oled really only burns in badly when you use it at high brightness

..which is the whole point of having an oled screen on a laptop

[acoustic palm]

Am I stupid or is he stupid

[elfin mural]

but try to not max it out every day

he is stupid

overclocking a mouse not intended to run at that polling rate lol

[mental yoke]

stupid for caring maybe? why u look dis

[acoustic palm]

Gg

[frigid stag]

Probably cheap sensor

Or just trash mouse in general

[elfin mural]

so it has 1000hz polling rate

yeah trash sensor

[mental yoke]

why buy one 80 dolle mouse when i can go through 5 cheap ones at 20 dolle before finally going back to an 80 dolle mouse

[elfin mural]

a g102 is barely 30 bucks

those typically last 2 years or more

[frigid stag]

Best mouse was 30 bucks a while ago

I got one for 15 bucks which destroys all those cheap mice

8000hz 🥱

[mental yoke]

i got a cm waffle super light its nice

wiffle waffle

[elfin mural]

i dont see going over 1000hz in polling rate to be benificial

you'd need very high fps in fps games

[frigid stag]

Ye it’s for esports games mostly

[elfin mural]

my g305 is trolling me rn

it stopped double clicking on its own

still does but it's rare

might relapse into that again ig

[frigid stag]

AliExpress mice truly better

It seems

[mental yoke]

wireless has been my goto but now i got like 800 devices stuff just bumps eachother around

[frigid stag]

I got mine w 8khz cause it was open box

[mental yoke]

even dongles sometimes is annoying

[opaque sedge]

Do u guys think a pc can provide a good living room gaming experience?

[mental yoke]

yes

[frigid stag]

Emfmaxing truly

With wireless

[opaque sedge]

Dude all my peripherals are wired and its a pain in the butt sometimes 😭

[frigid stag]

How

[opaque sedge]

I’m tempted to grab a wireless headset sometimes

[mental yoke]

wires are annoying

[mental yoke]

do it lots of great options

[frigid stag]

Do you have a bungee

[opaque sedge]

My headphones have a long ass wire my keyboard has a long ass wire my mouse has a long ass wire my first controller has a longass wire

I’m surrounded by longass wires

[frigid stag]

Better than short wires

You probably need a mouse bungee

[opaque sedge]

I also snag on my headphone’s wire at time with my elbow

[elfin mural]

wireless mouse is great but a mouse bungee is all you need if you're still using wired

not that a new mouse is expensive anyway

them new chinese mice are amazing

[frigid stag]

Or you can just pericord the mouse and it’s a lot lighter on the cable

[opaque sedge]

Hmm ngl maybe i should route them using clamps

[opaque sedge]

Were western pc peripherals the preferred option in the past?

[fresh timber]

Doesn’t exist

[opaque sedge]

Lol shoulda phrased that better

How abt western branded peripherals

[elfin mural]

none are good enough

except corsair ig

[frigid stag]

They still are but it’s complicated

[opaque sedge]

For controllers it seems chinese options are the best rn

[frigid stag]

Stuff like egg, finalmouse are pretty high end

[opaque sedge]

Controllers with stacked features are coming from there after all

[elfin mural]

asus has basically had the crown in my heart

the first company to offer hotswap switches in mice

lol

ofc they patented it so they were the only company

for years

now there's ironcat, or incott

[wraith fern]

yes

because they both represent 324 degrees

or 314

[weak cedar]

Any recommendation for nas system that be remote in like

Mainly for pictures and videos and not really for games. Since my sister will be scanning a good number a few milies away?

I could do a tower but I was trying to keep it slightly compact

[elfin mural]

parsec would work i think

[dusk knot]

Hello, wegg

[paper verge]

sup wegger

[dusk knot]

Hello, wegger

[upper rain]

you can't say that word, it's 2025 bro

[worn wave]

What about wegga

[lone mango]

[upper rain]

probably situation dependent. i call my homies wegga, but we cool like that

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-meme-funny-text-gif-27529580

[proud jackal]

What do I buy today at anime con

[lone mango]

Miku pad

[nocturne flicker]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wega

[proud jackal]

I have Miku pad coming in already

What else

[paper verge]

weggaaaaaaaaaaa

[lavish stag]

Okay thanks

So i should just use it smart and enjoy

[elfin mural]

yes

[lavish stag]

Is it possible to make edible technology?

[upper rain]

1;1 scale hatsune miku plush

[upper rain]

there are companies making computers with neurons

so yes

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-teto-plush-kasane-teto-plush-crush-it-gif-16166927453889012815

[upper rain]

they're doing this to me at work tomorrow

[icy ore]

They will to me Tuesday

Luckily off tomorrow

[wraith fern]

depends what you define as technology

radishes can be used to detect infection

so thats edible technology

[lavish stag]

like

you use tech

and then to recycle it, you can eat it

[lone mango]

Black plastic

I am eating technology from this black styrofoam container

[lavish stag]

: o

[nocturne flicker]

What if we injected that plastic degrading bacteria into our digestive system

[wraith fern]

they make packaging out of mushrooms

edible paper exists

mf doom even made a song about that

[dusk knot]

Lmao

[dusk knot]

Lol. I don't see why not

[fresh timber]

I just watched the thunderbolts

[fresh timber]

Hey fell wegg

I hate weggs

[dusk knot]

You're a wegg

You can't hate yourself here

[dusk knot]

How was it? I'm watching it tomorrow

[fresh timber]

Hi I’m bob

The plot twist at the end is amazing

I give the movie a 5/10 it has a lot of empty plot holes and has too many characters to focus on at once

I wanted to see more sentry

[dusk knot]

Oh god

😭

It's mid

[dusk knot]

You and me both

[fresh timber]

Yeah and the timing doesn’t make sense

The red guardian did like a cross country trip, atleast they implied he did, then after that they like get in a plane that they never said anything about and magically they are in New York for some reason I won’t tell you about

What makes no sense is how tf they get captured which was never shown but they crashed the car

But other times they crash they seem to be able to fight just fine

So the story is a bunch of diffrent points glued toghter

[dusk knot]

Woagh....no spoilers

[fresh timber]

Not telling you why’s

[dusk knot]

Ok

[worn night]

it is not, do not get that fam

[nocturne flicker]

[fresh timber]

It gotta be like cl 10 to be good 😭😭

[worn night]

lol

[upper rain]

surely this is a joke lol, fzr is a smart fella

[fresh timber]

Yeah he’s like a extreme overclocker

[upper rain]

unless there is missing context and he's asking about a specific SKU targeting a specific die or smth

[fresh timber]

He knows what he’s doing

[upper rain]

mhm, i have mad respect

[fresh timber]

Same

And he works at signal rgb

[upper rain]

he helped me with vmodding years ago, but i had a different account then

[fresh timber]

Wow

[upper rain]

i was not an amazing pupil, but i got there in the end lol

[fresh timber]

I wanna mod my future 9070xt

[upper rain]

u should

it's extremely easy

[fresh timber]

I wanna out the best bios on it

Maybe even a modded one

[upper rain]

the vmod pads you solder too are massive, and not really around anything so low risk of messing anything up. and like we were talking about before you can literally just tape/glue something conductive across a couple pins to juice your PL

vmodding AMD gpus is really easy most of the time because they have big fat i2c headers you solder to, and the voltage control is always digital to a certain degree, at least on semi recent stuff

with nvidia you usually have to bother with setting up resistors and stuff, which is fun in its own way but a little daunting for newbies, which i still somewhat consider myself to be. considering i only have one successful attempt at that

[fresh timber]

I saw dawid do it

You put some crimp on the bios chip and flash

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber this is gonna be goty 100%

[fresh timber]

??

[acoustic palm]

expition 33

[fresh timber]

Are you okay in the head

[acoustic palm]

expedition 33

?

[upper rain]

i think that's for bios flash. you'll still have a pretty strict power limit that way

iirc that's what he did in his vid

most of the yt i watch is in bed to help fall asleep

[fresh timber]

He flashed 9070xy bios on 9070

[upper rain]

ah yah

[dusk knot]

Stop hating yourself right this instant!

[upper rain]

it's a neat trick, but still limits you

[nocturne flicker]

[upper rain]

also apparently my non XT TS graphics scores rank in the top 2% of XT graphics scores lol

[fresh timber]

Pull a splave and mind your bios

He made a 5090 pull $1000

[upper rain]

mind?

oh yah that's with XOC vbios

[fresh timber]

1000w 5090 with secrete bios teick

[upper rain]

nvidia always leaks those, or one of their AIBs do

but you can also just put shunts on the cards if you don't mind voiding warranty

[fresh timber]

I don’t care about warranty after a year or 2

[upper rain]

that's usually how long the warranty lasts, yes

[fresh timber]

Yeah

[nocturne flicker]

It could be worse. I could be my mother who claims to peg her personal happiness to my happiness, someone she knows who has chronic depression

[fresh timber]

You see the new right to repair stuff, they can’t void your warranty for maintenance such as repasting

If your 9070 goes bye bye and anybody ask you just say you repasted

[upper rain]

tbf i'm well past that point

im decent at cleaning up solder jobs, but not perfect. it would be obvious that i had tampered

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-uh-i-forgor-gif-26494840

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-gtx-970-upgraded-to-8gb-vram-gets-tested-up-to-40-faster-than-stock-model

[dusk knot]

Wow

):

[dense locust]

4060 performance at 1699

[dusk knot]

USD. Nice

The world is healing for the rich

[trim finch]

Eat them

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-cartoon-eating-cartoon-man-running-gif-24721662

[dusk knot]

I would get in trouble

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/france-french-waterloo-napoleonic-gif-25479984

https://tenor.com/view/oversimplified-french-revolution-guillotine-robespierre-maximilien-robespierre-gif-8081297201075743631

[lone mango]

erm ackshually its 7

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/beer-gif-3080179580444295005

[worn wave]

Wait, a 4gb card that's vram bottlenecked in modern games benefits from 8gb??

[rancid juniper]

whoa

[mental yoke]

bbq

[upper rain]

dang, even 970's have nearly the same vram as 5060 ti now

[upper rain]

why wouldn't it tbf. the core is slow, but not so slow that caching to dram wouldn't slow it down much further

[rancid juniper]

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[worn wave]

I was being sarcastic because the article title implies simply adding vram = 40% more performance

[upper rain]

oh lol. i mean in many cases it does tho

but that's more a product of current bad design choices

[worn wave]

Only if the card is vram limited

Idk I think a lot of vram discussion is very overblown (not the 5060ti having 8gb though that's actually stupid)

[upper rain]

mhm. also edge cases that don't really matter

[upper rain]

i disagree tbh

well depends on what you mean

[worn wave]

I've had one too many 3060 12gb users say that their card is god's gift just because it has 12gb

[upper rain]

the hysterics saying that the 5070 should have 32GB of ram or whatever are insane

but i don't think it is unreasonable at all to expect 5060/ti should come with 16GB by default, 5070 with 24, and 5070 ti/5080 should also have a lil extra

9070 xt is fine as it is, although i would have liked if we had a 384 bit 24GB monster. is what it is tho. i wouldn't mind a 32GB super overclocked version either tho

[worn wave]

Eh, 10/12 on xx50/ti, 16+ on xx70

Remember the more vram Nvidia puts in their GPUs the more they're going to be snatched up for AI

[upper rain]

10/12 is kinda where 8GB was two years ago tho, it's juuuuust barely enough

16GB is where you have enough, and a little bit of room to stretch your legs

should be the minimum for anything above like $250 imo

[worn wave]

dog 12 is not "barely enough"

[upper rain]

if you're playing modern AAA games at 1440p yeah it is

[worn wave]

What game is vram bottlenecked at 1440p with 12gb

*that isn't an unoptimized piece of 💩

[upper rain]

approaching 11GB with RT and stuff off

it's enough but not for long, hence my point

[dusk knot]

Oof

[dusk knot]

And some people actually say that it devices enough for 1080p gaming

Hahahahhaa

[upper rain]

isn't this one a few years old now too?

[worn wave]

I think this falls under unoptimized iirc

[upper rain]

when half of games are "unoptimized" i think you have to accept that it's just an "old man shakes fist at clouds" moment

[worn wave]

And the avatar settings that surpass 12gb are "unobtanium" lol

[upper rain]

like yeah it's stupid, you can do more with less

but they aren't, so what;s the point

[upper rain]

also ultra lol

and high is at 11GB

[worn wave]

I'm not talking 4k, I agree 4k def needs more than 12gb

Oh 1440p ultra does go a tad over

Idk though cause I played avatar at 1440p high on an 8gb 3060ti and didn't have issues

[upper rain]

cut off a lil

but yeah, i mean my point stands

12GB is what 8GB was 2 years ago

[worn wave]

Like by that chart I would have needed to go for low textures on my 8gb card which I absolutely didn't need to, so I question the validity

[upper rain]

just enough most of the time, sometimes more than enough, sometimes not enough

[upper rain]

it's HUB, and you're probably running into texture compression if ur playing at 1440p with decent settings on an 8GB card

iirc it's one of the titles that just drops texture quality rather than suffering performance drops

i can recall plenty of cases where i've needed way more vram than i expected as well.

[upper rain]

as i said, my point stands

you're welcome to disagree, but data as well as popular opinion are certainly in my corner. it would be a lonely position to take

my pasta just finished tho so im gonna go eat

take care broski

[worn wave]

I still think it's overblown

I love pasta though so we can agree on that

[upper rain]

and ur welcome to, it's just a silly opinion to have in light of the data

[upper rain]

based

literally the third kind of pasta i made today

a pasta for every meal

[worn wave]

Pastamaxxing

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-4-fallout-nuke-truth-nuke-trvthnvke-gif-4026368109233378466

[worn wave]

Pasta for breakfast might be futher than I'd go tbh

[upper rain]

it was more of a brunch since i went to mass today tbf

[lone mango]

My games dont use more than 5 gigs 1440p

[dusk knot]

Finally. someone who actually played the game besides me

[lone mango]

Except like helldivers

[worn wave]

I must admit I didn't finish it. Kinda got boring like a far cry clone

[lone mango]

It all depends on what you play

[dusk knot]

Oh.

The visuals is what kept me going

Also I'm a big fan of the franchise

[worn wave]

Yeah the visuals are awesome

I should see how much vram battlefront 2 uses on ultra

(the remake)

[dusk knot]

Shouldn't be too much

[worn wave]

Cause battlefront 2015 and battlefield 1 look absolutely amazing for their time. Imo that was peak graphics

Battlefront 2 and bfV were scaled back a bit I think but still look quite good

[misty sparrow]

:.|:;

[royal crow]

Huh

[wicked oriole]

My little brother is taking off w my old computer, should I have him take the gpu home loose, or would it be fine to leave in the rig laying on it's back w a gpu stand under it?

6 hour drive home

[lone mango]

What card is in it

[wicked oriole]

4080s

[worn night]

i would be as safe as possible

[silver sparrow]

i mean i did a 4k mile drive with both computers just in the passenger seat no packing and my stuff is still fine

[worn night]

like, its a 4080 super we're talking abt

[silver sparrow]

just dont have it rattle about

have it like actually secure in place, lodge it against something

[lone mango]

If its upright with the support below the card I don’t see any problems

The support is gonna do its job

[wicked oriole]

My game plan was to lay it down flat and it will be held with the rog strix gpu holder

[worn night]

its in the pcie slot right

[silver sparrow]

as long as you find something to where the computer doesnt freely move about in the car you are fine

[worn night]

if its inserted properly and it has a support under it it should be fine

[wicked oriole]

Yes

[worn night]

good

[lone mango]

Yeah

[wicked oriole]

Alright I'll make sure it won't be able to move then. I know he can put the gpu in cause I made him do it when we put in the ssd, he just seemed scared to do it if I wasnt there lol

[silver sparrow]

both the pc's that i moved during my 4k mile trip had 1 a 7900xtx, and 2 a 3070, and they have been running fine since the trip, i just lodged them on the floor of the passenger seat and made sure it wouldnt move

[wicked oriole]

I just read a bad story on reddit last night lmao so now im slightly worried

[upper rain]

neither do most of mine, but my most played game on steam is from 2006 lol

most people buying new hardware are a little less FOMO than i am and expect to actually play AAA games lol

[worn night]

i was playing space marines two at max settings 1440p and it went up to over 11 gigabytes of vram

but the fps was somehow awesome

felt like max

[silver sparrow]

im still waiting to upgrade my CPU well first cause i dont have the spare funds just laying around, but also the fact that a 5800x is still perfectly fine for running whatever i want it to 1440p

[upper rain]

i used to drive to/from my dad's place with my PC because i had online classes and vidya. did this for two years, twice weekly. 1.5h drive one way. never had anything happen aside from my CPU mount get screwy once, but that's just AM4 things tbh. reseated it and i still have the CPU/board working today

[worn night]

my cpu is the only thing that hasnt changed in my pc since i built it

i wanna get a 9600x

[upper rain]

you'll be fine just don't get into a wreck or whatever and keep the thing secured so it isn't sliding about

[wicked oriole]

okk dope then ill just send it to him as it is thanks guys

[silver sparrow]

i want a 9800x3d cause yes

[wicked oriole]

now my next question is intel processors cause my buddy doesnt want to go to amd lmao

[worn night]

tell him amd better

simple as that

[worn night]

lol

[upper rain]

what about them specifically? Core Ultra ultra sucks, and 13/14th gen melt themselves to death. 12th gen is fine, but kinda old and not that impressive value

[wicked oriole]

he wants to build a computer, only plays cod, sometimes does 3d printing and prints out graphics, the microcenter has core i9s still left but idk what could meet his needs

[silver sparrow]

amd just better in general imo, maybe its favoritsm, but like amd has been decent at keeping good power to perf, and just better perf in general

[worn night]

*13th/14th gen i7-i9

[worn night]

plus the upgrade path

[upper rain]

the issue was present across the entire architecture, the K CPUs just run at higher voltages and so experience it much much faster

[worn night]

socket support

[wicked oriole]

Intel Core i9-12900K i can still get

[silver sparrow]

but also if intel is like a ton more affordable which idk what the prices are, it might be worth

IF

[worn night]

ah

[wicked oriole]

i thought the ultras sucked, tried to explain the 13/14 gen problems told em amd was better but they wanna stick to intel

[frigid stag]

they dont. its been fixed almost a year ago

[upper rain]

if he's dead set on intel see if there are any of those dirt cheap 12th gen i7 deals floating around. iirc MC had them for like $250 bundled with a board and a bunch of ram

[silver sparrow]

TBH the only times ive seen people go for intel is cause they got like a hell of a deal on it.

[frigid stag]

either update bios or dont run stock voltages

[worn night]

do whatever you have to do to convince them

[upper rain]

fixed in the sense that they have somewhat more sane VID requests, but the fundamental issue remains, and RMAs/returns are still above average, even for Intel. i don't have any problem with dailying them because i don't mind undervolting (free performance anyway lol) but i'm not ao keen on recommending them to normies

at least not the higher end ones that eat a lot of power

[lone mango]

Core ultra isn’t that bad anymore

[frigid stag]

idk why people say amd is better and then not recommend the x3d

[worn night]

i sure didnt when i built 💀

[upper rain]

"not that bad" isn't a great selling point imo

[worn night]

is the 265k and kf being 269 usd good

[worthy meteor]

Core ultra still doesn't outperform 13/14th gen in any noticeable way

[wicked oriole]

i did, they dont want lol

[frigid stag]

they did fix it

[lone mango]

I would say its actually close to ryzen 9000 perf now after the updates

[worthy meteor]

Problem is Mobo costs are kinda high for those

[worn night]

they needa do some more research

[lone mango]

But rhere needs to be more testing

[upper rain]

not by much in gaming. in some professional workloads they made it a fair bit faster, but it's still not that compelling 8 out of 10 times imo

[lone mango]

Nobody tests it anymore

[silver sparrow]

but they saved like.... 5 watts of power or something look guys we dont consume as much power anymore cause we stagnated for 7 years and let our compettion bulldozer us into oblivion

[worthy meteor]

Iirc it's literally just blender and nothing else

[frigid stag]

what stagnation 12,13 gen was barely 2 years ago

[upper rain]

some video editing stuff works faster. so i guess they worked on making their encoders/decoders a bit better

[wicked oriole]

ill try to talk some sense into them, especially cause they have the budget for a pretty nice pc

[frigid stag]

amd was competing with a 2014 architecture until 2020

[silver sparrow]

like 2012-2019

[wicked oriole]

they wanted a pre build but imma just talk em into letting me build it

[worn night]

noice

[upper rain]

12th gen was good, 13/14 gen are just 12th gen with more cache. not really innovative stuff. also they melted themselves to death, and still do, just way way slower now

[wicked oriole]

theyre dead set on a pre built because building it has problems but id be building it lol

[frigid stag]

ye you could say any cpu “degrades” over time

[worn night]

built will always be better than prebuilt

[upper rain]

the issue is that Intel 13/14 still do at a much faster rate than its contemporaries. wayyyy slower than before the patches, but it's still a fundemantal issue to the architecture

[worthy meteor]

We're on like the 5th microcode fix that is supposed to fix the degredation :p

[upper rain]

again, not a huge issue, but i'm not keen on recommending them to normies unless they're actually quite compelling value

[frigid stag]

its not, if it was 12 gen would be affected too

[upper rain]

and most often they're not

[frigid stag]

same node

[upper rain]

it's not a process issue

it's a design one

[frigid stag]

in what way exactly

[silver sparrow]

i mean 9900k is when they actually did somewhat of a actual improvement cause amd was catching up to them 2019 was when zen 2 released

[worthy meteor]

You might be confusing the oxidation reports from way earlier on with the other causes for degredation

[frigid stag]

in multi core sure, in single core a 5ghz 6-7 gen is the same

[upper rain]

the ringbus runs on vcore voltage, and 13/14 gen have big transient vcore spikes because they're ultimately just an overclocked 12th gen with extra l2 cache. the ringbus is quite fragile, and naturally doesn't like it much when the CPU requests 1.6v for a split second. the VID spikes have since been toned down... but it's still a questionable proposition imo

[frigid stag]

techtubers almost intentionally tested at ultra settings, makes the cpu differences seem smaller

[silver sparrow]

im talking mainly stock non OC

[upper rain]

which is also an improved 6th gen

[silver sparrow]

which is a slightly improved 5th gen

[upper rain]

6th-10th are the same thing pretty much just better node maturity and moar cores

[upper rain]

5th gen was a diff architecture

[frigid stag]

but no

[upper rain]

mostly IMC, which tbf intel did actually work on pretty heavily during the 14nm days

core architecture is basically the same throughout tho

[silver sparrow]

idk man i still run a 4th gen i7 4790 on my server pc, and i could easily switch back to it and not notice much imo

[upper rain]

what were you swapping with?

[frigid stag]

so basically a vid tables issue

[worthy meteor]

12th was when we finally really got off 14nm++++++++++++ and we saw some actual gains

Took them an entire gen to figure it out

[upper rain]

the issue wasn't the vid per se but rather the fact that the ring runs on vcore despite being really quite fragile. you can turn down the vcore a bit, but only a bit before you lose clock speed. they found a good balance all things considered, but it's still... questionable in my mind

maybe i'm overly paranoid, i'm certainly open to the possibility. but even mobile CPUs were having issues which does not make me very confident

[frigid stag]

i have a mobile one it works fine so far

13 gen i7

[upper rain]

like if a 65w laptop chip is melting down, why should i expect a slightly tweaked vid table to keep a 300w 14900k alive for as long as say a 7950x or smth

[upper rain]

yeah i mean it's not a given thing

it's a game of probability

as with everything in life

the odds are simply higher that you have issues on 13/14th gen vs anything else in recent memory

[worthy meteor]

I mean, it's a voltage versus current thing lol

[silver sparrow]

my whole thing is just the complete lack luster improvement from gen to gen

[upper rain]

mhm, i was just curious which gens you were swapping between

[lone mango]

Well it asks for it in bursts, so like opening something up for example

[upper rain]

i noticed a big leap going from 4th to 9th gen, but i was on i5's so i got a 50% multicore boost and a better architecture

[lone mango]

The laptop would have the same behavior just at a lower tdp

[silver sparrow]

i remember having a i5 3570k that i ran for a bit, and switched from the i7 4790 and noticed litterally 0 improvement/downgrade between the 2

i think i noticed a improvement when switching to the 3600x, but i really dont remember, the cpu improvements really havent been that big until i went to the 5600x

[upper rain]

i don't know enough about how intel bins their mobile cpus, i just assumed they operated at lower voltages than desktop because they aren't pushed as hard

if they're also requesting 1.6v then that's uh

not great lol

[lone mango]

Its probably lower but even then it would still be enough to cause some issues

We love consoooming

[upper rain]

that's kinda surprising to me. when i was younger most of the games i played weren't super demanding per se, they jsut saturated all my cores on my i5. so going to a 9th gen and getting extra cores was big. i would have thought doubling threads would be similarly, if somewhat less useful for rhat sort of thing. perhaps it's a matter of game selection

[silver sparrow]

but 9th gen was def something big, cause thats like all i ever heard about the 9900k and how great and god teir it is

[lone mango]

Who remembers the 8086k

[upper rain]

evidently this was the case considering they also have abnormally high failure rates. i do not have data on how high unfortunately though

[upper rain]

i knew a guy with one that ran 5.3ghz or something on water

very cool CPU, if kinda late

8th gen is what 7th gen should have been, 9th what 8th should have been, etc.

tbh i think if Intel launched 8700k against 1800x, AMD would have struggled way more to find their feet

[silver sparrow]

i mean to be fair it was a full blown gaming settup of a 3570k that i found off of auction, vs a optiplex with a i7 4790, but like cpu to cpu same gpu, obv different ram, but like i freely switched between the 2, and ended up just running the 3570k for a while since i was about to build my 3600x pc

[upper rain]

i might be getting dates mixed up then, i thought Ryzen launched avainst 7th gen

huh, interesting

i guess i was mistaken. in fairness i was basically an embryo at that point

ooh interesting

[silver sparrow]

ive stopped looking into the tech space for a while after i finished building my pc. once you have a decent modern pc i realise that constantly keeping up to date with whats the latest tech gets kinda pointless

[upper rain]

i'm less into it than i used to be. mostly i keep a general idea of what's what, and then deep dive whenever a friend/relative needs a new PC

[lone mango]

I be kinda autistic about it fr

[upper rain]

hmm, that's pretty surprising actually. what was upgrade path like on those boards?

[silver sparrow]

i just know amd is contining to slay, Intel GPUS are like good budget or smth, stay away from nvidia, uhhhhhhhh intel doo doo unless you get a steal of a deal on it

[upper rain]

i am about some things, but not as much as i ised to be

[upper rain]

the intel b580 was okay at msrp but it's pretty consistently MSRP +~100 nowadays

(which makes sense because they sell at a loss at msrp lol)

[silver sparrow]

THOOOO new 75watt drop for intel is POG

[upper rain]

true

[silver sparrow]

the 75watt gpu is hype imo

[upper rain]

i hope next gen sorta fixes the whole chiplet/tile thing intel has going on

[silver sparrow]

i love a good pcie power gpu, always great for up and coming people wanting to game

[upper rain]

real and true

i expect RDNA 4 could make a pretty nifty 75w GPU if they wanted

really efficient architecture

why what

oh

[silver sparrow]

no cable just plug in

find a random ewaste PC and you have something that can game

[rancid juniper]

not seeing a lot of low powered gpus lately

pretty sure they are

[silver sparrow]

dude just putting in a GT 1030 made a core2quad 9650s pc able to game

[rancid juniper]

not even a 1050? SMH

[silver sparrow]

I GOT SCAMMMMEDDDD

[upper rain]

surprisingly yes, although still with 2-4th gen ones which is weird. i would have expected that they'd be on DDR4 platforms by now given it's been nearly a decade since that meta

[rancid juniper]

L

[silver sparrow]

IT SAID 1050 ti

[worn wave]

Harder to make a decent one these days because there's less pcie slot powered GPUs

[silver sparrow]

the guy gave me a partial refund tho so im good with that

he did not know it wasnt a 1050ti

i dont blame him it was some chinese GPU with DUAL FANS on a GT 1030

[worn wave]

Office PCS rarely have an extra pcie power cable

[upper rain]

HP Z series workstations are more meta now because they come with decent PSUs with 6 pins

and usually pretty okay CPUs too

[rancid juniper]

i actually tried this gpu

its alright...

[upper rain]

which ones? the 2-4th gen ones i've seen have not. maybe this is a DDR4 optiplex innovation

[silver sparrow]

i wanna do another pc build, i mean sure ive built 3 custom pcs already, but like i want more

[worn wave]

Either that or molex to pcie is usually what you have to do

[upper rain]

that's an RDNA 1 thing isn't it? 5500 xt but pro

[rancid juniper]

no, its a polaris type card

[silver sparrow]

did nvidia have the 3050 be PCIE powered? and if so was it even that much of a improvement over the 1650?

[upper rain]

ah, older than i thought

still looks sleek

[rancid juniper]

ye

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-wx-4100.c2874

[worn wave]

The 6gb version is and it's about equal to a 1650 I believe. Not sure about 8gb

[rancid juniper]

no 75w 5060

ass

[silver sparrow]

1650 was so nice tho, basically a 1060

[worn wave]

But the 3050 being equal to a 1060 is depressing

[lone mango]

Yeah gigabyte made a 5060 low profile

Basically the same cooler as the 4060 lp

[silver sparrow]

the 1650 was better than the 970 i was using so 🤷‍♂️

at least im pretty sure it was

its been like 4 years

ive moved too many times, and life has been crazy

[upper rain]

the super was close, the base one was like 40% weaker

more like 20-30% ig but yeah

[rancid juniper]

bad prices

didn't budge

[silver sparrow]

my life hasnt felt the same after i did the multiple 10hr drive days it took to drive across the united states

[upper rain]

you can get 75w 3060 mobiles on aliexpress for less than that

[silver sparrow]

209???

thats bad

[upper rain]

absolutely smokes that card too

[rancid juniper]

i legit forgot about frankenstein gpus

[upper rain]

not far from what 3060ms were going for

[upper rain]

they're hot

[silver sparrow]

is the 1650 any cheaper now?

[rancid juniper]

oh man...

[upper rain]

i am incredibly attracted to mobile GPUs... not just platonically or romantically

specifically ones on desktop PCBs

[rancid juniper]

ok...

[upper rain]

lmfao

[rancid juniper]

😏

[silver sparrow]

like the 75watt gpus need to be like sub 150$ for it to be viable IMO

[upper rain]

sometimes i can't tell if y'all are playing along with my antics or if you actually think i'm a lunatic

[silver sparrow]

170 is still a bit much

[upper rain]

yeah for real

[tranquil pebble]

8 GB DDR5 DIMMs are cursed ngl

[upper rain]

you could get 6500xt for that during the shortages

and as much of a meme as it was, it's still faster

APU gaming time?

oh dear

how did you manage that?

[rancid juniper]

na this is a scam ez trick

[upper rain]

send it to Krutav and have him make it a 22GB one while he's at it

[silver sparrow]

isnt AMD getting like way better APU's or is a 1650 still better?

[upper rain]

realistically you probs didn't break it tho

unless you had it running really hot for a real long time

they do like to crack BGAs from heat cycling sometimes

dude that's... nothing lol

i ran mine at 500w minimum

lmfao

unless it's physically damaged from warping or smth it's probs fine. or you're a really unlucky fella

not by PCI SIG spec, but the design certainly can

[rancid juniper]

so you're stuck wit the good ol GT 1030??? (WHAT A POWERHOUSE)

[upper rain]

mine pulled 825w once, before tripping my PSU

that's the highest i've ever seen owing to my PSU being the limiting factor

XOC vbios. i didn't mod that one

[rancid juniper]

yall are wild

pushing these cards

[upper rain]

2x 8 pins is better in every way than 12vhpwr by a staggering margin, and 12vhpwr is rated for 600w

[dense locust]

1030 is the amount of wait time between frames

[upper rain]

800w is chillin

[rancid juniper]

1030 times the disappointment that comes with it too

[dense locust]

Imagine being this bad

[upper rain]

even better/easier on the connectors

TPU has a bunch of XOC vbios up, idk about the super unlocked ones but certainly the 500w limit ones are freely available

try it you'll love it (or don't you might hate it)

[rancid juniper]

these guys really dont care about NDA do they?

wait...

GHOSTY????

why

can't believe this 😔

[dense locust]

NDA? That means share right?

[upper rain]

lmfao

[upper rain]

never don't allow (people to see ur secrets)

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-meme-funny-text-gif-27529580

[rancid juniper]

NDA makes it so that the player doesn't share ANYTHING about the game

which they just violated shown here

typically they will take these videos down best case scenario

but idk, if they're really pressed they might fine you

[upper rain]

surely it means never deny access

and it requires all ur secrets to be shared

[rancid juniper]

nah thats the EDA

Enabled Disclosure Agreement fr

[upper rain]

i thought that meant something else...

[rancid juniper]

👀

[dusk knot]

Lol

[upper rain]

are you planning on runninv 2dpc on high density DDR5?

[old charm]

Wym?

[upper rain]

2 dims per channel, 32GB sticks

[old charm]

Yes

[upper rain]

mm

i hope they're slow, otherwise you'll probs have issues

especially if they are different ICs

[old charm]

6000mhz. I bought the same exact brand with the same timing

[upper rain]

2dpc alone is a struggle, higher density kits are more difficult, and mixed ICs are quite painful

[upper rain]

doesn't necessarily mean anything there are a ton of bins that can hit 6000

[old charm]

I have to look at the bios though, it was reporting 4800 on windows.

[upper rain]

it's probably not a big deal, bc you'll lose like 800mb/s if you drop to jedec 5200 or whatever, just be aware that it may not be a simple drop in and let it run

[old charm]

I haven't looked since I bought it.

[upper rain]

probs didn't enable XMP/EXPO

[old charm]

Might need to change the profile

Yea

[upper rain]

leaving it like that you'll probably be fine

you might struggle at XMP/EXPO with 2dpc 32GB sticks, most probably will if they're also mixed ICs

[old charm]

So assuming they didn't enable xmp at the factory

I'm ok with moderately slower speeds in exchange for more RAM

[upper rain]

XMP is just a set of data stored on the DIMM. you have to enable it manually through your motherboard

think of it like a set of instructions

[old charm]

I think 4800 would be a stable target

[upper rain]

rather than preprogrammed settings

[old charm]

Yea, I know what xmp is

[upper rain]

i was simpyl explaining why it isn't on by default

[old charm]

All good. Yea, I think places like puget might have their own profiles.

But not just some random retailer on newegg

[upper rain]

wdym by this

oh lol

do they want the pc back orrrr?

[old charm]

Because he had it listed for so low

[upper rain]

lol

somebody there is going to get burned hard

"hey gary where's the $6000 turbo epeen pc we're meant to ship? what do you mean we forgor to sent the return ship label????"

big if true

[pliant berry]

do not filter avoid please

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brother1984-1984-big-brother-big-brother-is-watching-you-george-orwell-gif-24454773

[silver sparrow]

1030 is loooooong gone.

kinda wish i could game on it again tbh

instead i have this little guy, who just casually consumes more power on idle than a 1030, maxed out on power

[rancid juniper]

sheeeeeeeeesh

[worn wave]

90W idle is diabolical

My 4070 sits at 15

[fresh timber]

Fr

Filter bad but we can say ass

We in jail in this place

[upper rain]

lol wtf

is this just chiplet things?

ryzen idle power draw is pretty munted too

i think Zen 6 is meant to fix this, hopefully they can use some of the design changes there to make RDNA5/UDNA also very idle efficient if they go chiplet again

[fresh timber]

Fr

My jntel idles lower

[upper rain]

back in the day there was an issue where GDDR6X nvidias wouldn't enter idle pstates properly

so my 3070 ti would casually consume 180w at idle lol

these days it's fixed mostly

i hope it's just something like that, but radeon

otherwise, prayge that Zen 6 fixes get ported to Radeon

[leaden pewter]

My 3080 idles like 35w-50w but max of 240W under load

[upper rain]

undervolted?

[fresh timber]

I knew a guy with a 3090 that idled at like 200-300w.. I see why now

[leaden pewter]

Yes

[fresh timber]

My 7700xt idles at 50-70w on my Intel pc, but in my am4 system it will go to 20w

[upper rain]

still kinda high idle but meh

[upper rain]

weird

[misty sparrow]

you have dreams like that? i get nothing

[upper rain]

ironinically yeah

[leaden pewter]

I want a 7700 or a 7900 non x for the low wattage

[upper rain]

wait

wtf did i just type

unironically

lmfao

it's sleepy hours

[fresh timber]

Are the non x ryzen 9 even good

Nobody talks about them

[upper rain]

they're just the X skus with eco mode on by default

[fresh timber]

so you turn eco mode off and easy

Better yet pbo it

[upper rain]

more like turn pbo on but yah

[leaden pewter]

Yeah but everyone wants peak performance

[fresh timber]

I tried turning pbo on my 5500 i couldn’t tune it right

[upper rain]

i sleep

gn lads

[leaden pewter]

I still find 7700 for like $190 rarely and think about snatching it up for my next game rig

[fresh timber]

I bought 13600kf for the K

[leaden pewter]

Turn my 12700k into a possible nas or server

When can we get the halo strix apu but for desktop sockets

[fresh timber]

Never

The vram requirement

You need soldered ram

[leaden pewter]

The potential

[sinful blade]

@fresh timber might be getting a 5700x Tuesday

[fresh timber]

How

Did I order it to your house on accident

[sinful blade]

Fbmp

Guy said he’s selling it for $75

Is this worth for wife to use

[hoary zodiac]

Not particularly upgradable

But for the price it's not bad

Well you can upgrade it

It just won't be cost effective

[sinful blade]

Don’t need upgradable, just an upgrade lmao

She’s using my 5700xt

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that'll be a bargain then

AM5 for cheap

[sinful blade]

I just want her to play oblivion with a stable frame rate

On high

She can only do like 55-70.

On medium

With frame gen

[hoary zodiac]

with frame gen

It's joever

[fresh timber]

Pretty sure that system is a upgrade anyways

Am4-am5, better gpu

That gpu can raytrace 🤑

[tranquil pebble]

tfw rays need tracing

[sinful blade]

3600 to a 7600 lmao

[hoary zodiac]

That's 3600 to 5700X3D in am4 terms

[fresh timber]

Sounds like a big upgrade to me

[silver sparrow]

its only high when connected to multiple monitors

it cuts in half when i disconnect the other 2 iirc

but its still too high imo

[sinful blade]

I need a business name for my business cards

But I can’t think of a quick, easy to remember name.

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/paull-allen-american-psycho-paull-allens-card-card-business-card-gif-25686120

[sinful blade]

Asked ChatGPT for names

[worn wave]

*5600x3d bc 6 core, but yeah

[tranquil pebble]

FumoGPT

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/YH05BeB5L40?si=nJ0x-Y7lm3ZlnNg5

🤔

[pseudo raven]

wtf lol

why is it taking that much

[rancid juniper]

theres something wrong with his driver/card

because now that problem should've been solved

[pseudo raven]

im actually like

doing some light work on my computer too

nto that it takes much clearly but

thats insane lol

[rancid juniper]

usually it should take like <40w idle

and im running this on 1440p 170hz monitor

it could be that he is using more than one monitor

[pseudo raven]

im using

two 1440p monitors

[rancid juniper]

oh

[pseudo raven]

one is 170hz

weird

[rancid juniper]

i mean maybe he's using an older driver

i got this on tho

[opaque sedge]

@rancid juniper i have a worthy successor to that one frog monster clip i have from mhwilds

[rancid juniper]

oh no..

[opaque sedge]

This is the first one pretty darn funny

Now this here is the successor

[rancid juniper]

latched onto it and everything bruh

[opaque sedge]

I was in there deep lol

[opaque sedge]

Fr there’s actually also a funny story with the people i was playing with

So basically they’re from the mhwilds server and thru a series of event they were determined at not letting me probe monsters either by stealing wounds (the glowing red spot that enables me to latch onto monsters) or by throwing bombs at me

They were unsuccessful 90% of the time

[rancid juniper]

this aint Monster hunter anymore just ProbeHunter

🗿

[opaque sedge]

Lmfaoooo

I was the villain lol

[rancid juniper]

most sane MH player ^

[opaque sedge]

@rancid juniper this was their reaction to this here clip

[rancid juniper]

truly "wild"

[opaque sedge]

Fr lol

[worn night]

it took 6 hours but I got a server running finally

Fabric modded Minecraft server with geyser so any device can join 🔥

goofy ah censorship forgot to include the reply name

[opaque sedge]

Oh man

Meh its too much of a pain too repost i’ll just delete

[acoustic palm]

the humans win this debate is long over

[dusk knot]

Yes

[acoustic palm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093800682601062430/1104613213749923870/Screenshot_2023-03-02_195313.gif

[paper verge]

Mc Bomber

sounds about right

[paper verge]

bruh do they though?

[acoustic palm]

yes???????

[paper verge]

i feel like if you put 100 jps

against a cat

[acoustic palm]

a gorilla cannot fight long

[paper verge]

they'll loose

[paper verge]

bro gorilla does not take no damage from weak humans

[acoustic palm]

it will pass out

a gorilla cannot fight long, only like 3 minutes iirc

[paper verge]

yeah i heard that they dont sweat and stuff

but like still

wouldnt it take 3 minutes for the gorillas to absolutely smash 100 humans?

[acoustic palm]

a gorilla aint beating a human in under 2s for 100 times

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[paper verge]

bro talks in gifs

or was that tomie ai

idk

[misty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/132349439506382848/1376032873622011914/OysArnf.gif

[lavish stag]

what are some good windows ultrabook laptops under 1500

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber want to be in a funny argument

[fresh timber]

yes

yes i do

[acoustic palm]

https://discord.com/channels/148549792191086593/410898230176514078

[fresh timber]

uunknwon

where is that at

what serrver

[acoustic palm]

are you banned in amd server

[fresh timber]

i thought u knew i was

[acoustic palm]

i didnt

[fresh timber]

its amd server, they are braindead in that server

[acoustic palm]

some special guy saying how "asrock boards suck for all cpus" and then giving 3 anecdotals as "proof"

[fresh timber]

o m g NOT RAIN LMFAO

[acoustic palm]

hes actually delusional

[fresh timber]

i know who he is

hes an idiot

[acoustic palm]

beyond an idiot

[remote geode]

3050LP for 140 USD, worth it?

just as a backup GPU and such

[acoustic palm]

no

get a 1080ti for cheap atp

[paper verge]

thats my aunties daughter bro

[paper verge]

have you seen that dog

king charles?

absolute chad that dog is

[lone mango]

Nah

[paper verge]

unc

i gotta get you up to the new world standards

update your firmware

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff42Nj2Dx64

[lone mango]

[acoustic palm]

huh

[paper verge]

bro still using the myspace emojis

oh hell nah

[last mango]

https://a.co/d/5SvYJkr
anyone use this before?

[mental yoke]

i love drama

[tranquil pebble]

what game is that?

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm

Spam I see

Uh, who is on

[fresh timber]

hi

[nocturne flicker]

Ah, Wolf is green. Ping time

[fresh timber]

im online 😦

[nocturne flicker]

@random osprey Spammer is here

I'm about to not be. Going to bed at 7:30am go brrrrrr. Man I love days off

[fresh timber]

am i cooked

[fresh timber]

im in the same boat rn

[fresh timber]

FIGHT

[paper verge]

no way its this guy again

[mental yoke]

hi

wait

[tranquil pebble]

haha spammer get rekt

[remote geode]

AAAAAA

[remote geode]

Awhar game is this

*ah what game is this

tempted to say roblox but it isn't

[mental yoke]

roblox

[remote geode]

I need a card that sips power 😭

[dense locust]

Hello chat

[tranquil pebble]

that Celeron G3900 is a beast

[hoary zodiac]

Sir this is newegg

[icy ore]

🫡

[paper verge]

in honor of the fallen weggerz

felix

and the others

[rancid juniper]

🫡

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[icy ore]

Jesus

That is in fact a map

[dusk knot]

Truly a map

[mental yoke]

map

oh thats ovlivion

thought it was skyrim

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/B0oDZeZa5xU?si=B0a-H232X7MZ4uOU

[mental yoke]

8gigabitties is fine for light gaming

what are igpus pooping out perf wise? they at 8gb yet?

i feel like the 860m was doing some work in the legion go or the 780

[rancid juniper]

igpus can do more than 8gb if theres more system ram available

unless some of them have a hard cap

[mental yoke]

oh is that the integrated memory mumbo jumbo that mac does?

[frigid stag]

“light games” 3gb -4g used to run insanely good looking games a few years ago

[proud jackal]

[royal crow]

Felix, falcie, bacca

[paper verge]

i never even noticed bacca lol

didnt that person turn into a mod

bruh

[acoustic palm]

He was a techie

[paper verge]

bro that was a she

[acoustic palm]

Oh

[paper verge]

i think idk

[frigid stag]

Who knows

[dusk knot]

Women don't exist online

[acoustic palm]

So real

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/true-absolute-true-true-meme-true-morgan-true-gordon-gif-17696036947574839045

[upper rain]

what happened to bacca?

i used to know that guy

[royal crow]

Left

[upper rain]

ah

i thought bro died

much better

[royal crow]

Yeah

[lone mango]

Left after a political argument

[upper rain]

oh lol

what was it about?

project mk ultra mind control trying to convince him that women are real, i am sure

[lone mango]

It wasn’t even anything crazy

Just left because soft

[acoustic palm]

He had a valid reason to leave?

[slate fractal]

oi oi oi

bacca

baka

[paper verge]

bro you being fr?

i thought they all planned a attack on wegg

and left

partners in crime

[lone mango]

Nah I was there it wasn’t even that bad

It was an overreaction

[lone mango]

Yeah

[acoustic palm]

It was pretty bad

[paper verge]

bro bacca

it shouldve been some russia topic

was it or nah?

[lone mango]

Wasn’t bad enough to leave for sure

[lone mango]

Fr it was all around the same time

Who knows maybe they left because of it idk

[sinful blade]

Bacca was under a lot of stress
This server was a big cause

[lone mango]

Felix and fal’cie reasons are unknown

[sinful blade]

Don’t worry about it

[paper verge]

bro was under stress cuz wegg?

breh

[sinful blade]

Felix and fal had their own reasons, don’t worry about it

Not just wegg, real life too

[slate fractal]

do you guys think diying these 2 cases together is easier than buying a new case and mobo? i need space for my new gpu but if i upgrade to just a bigger case the motherboard wont attach properly (dell witchcraft)

[lone mango]

[sinful blade]

Buy new case and mobo

Dells are terrible

Don’t feed into the ecosystem

[paper verge]

bacca sounding like the penguin rn

the penguin of discord 💀

[slate fractal]

i bought them used

so im not supporting dell

[sinful blade]

Use em for servers

[sinful blade]

@paper verge

[slate fractal]

what would i use servers for tho

[sinful blade]

Media storage, Minecraft server hosting, etc

[slate fractal]

man i just want to play games

why cant dell just use normal connections

[paper verge]

volume is more hassle

and less perf

[worn wave]

Yes but also bacca had expressed in the past that they felt like they were spending too much time on the server. They also at least once left for a period and came back.

[worn wave]

The fact that I've heard this multiple times about Fal and Felix gives me "sweeping it under the carpet" vibes

[dusk knot]

😔

[rancid juniper]

me squeezing the last drop of perf using bclk

😏

[dusk knot]

What is bclk

[rancid juniper]

its extra oc method ye

[dusk knot]

Oh

[lavish stag]

do I need a screen saver for my oled monitor if i have it set to automatically turn off after 5 minutes of idle?

[sinful blade]

It’s not, just reasons they did not want us to discuss

[worn wave]

If it's off that's fine

[dusk knot]

no

ive had my oled 240hz gaming monitor for almost 3 years now. no need

[mental yoke]

i was gonna say i had no issues with my oled but i hate oled

ive had no burn in as a monitor in my use case

[misty sparrow]

I wonder if you need to do things like hiding the taskbar or enabling settings that make the screen go dim after a few minutes with oled displays

[mental yoke]

depends how garbage the display is

i bought oled im using oled

[fresh timber]

Hi

[proud jackal]

[misty sparrow]

basically criminal how pricey the OLED monitors can get

what warrants a 1440p OLED display going over $600?

the refresh rate?

[frigid stag]

The oled part

[misty sparrow]

true but LG B4 42" for $600

[frigid stag]

TVs are kinda different

They’re trying to sell them off

[misty sparrow]

it does have pretty good gaming features for a TV though