general-chat

[crimson scroll]

GIYS ITS HAPPENED

[remote geode]

it's just the pcb

insane

[nocturne flicker]

129.99 shipping

[hoary zodiac]

370 for a pcb

lmao

[crimson scroll]

Its coming from china

[hoary zodiac]

Why do you need a pcb?

[crimson scroll]

I dont

Just wanted to ifnrom you giys

[lone mango]

Thank you for this information

I will not buy it

Even current 6700 xt prices are lower than 370

[hoary zodiac]

And that comes with a gpu

The pcb is worthless

[lone mango]

And can do 1440p

Novideo owned

[hoary zodiac]

Unless you already have a 4090 (the gpu not the card)

And you're louis rossmann

[lone mango]

krisfix-germany

Goes hard
https://youtu.be/mByOpC8D-ik

[hoary zodiac]

Meh

Too big

I like the 207 more

Oh wait

They're the same size?

[proud jackal]

Is white astral 5090 out yet

[dusk knot]

I don't think so

[crimson scroll]

Yes

No

[lone mango]

I think its gonna come out at or a little after computex

[hoary zodiac]

Cities skylines is eerie when there's buildings on the map

thansk the eerie music paradox

[onyx merlin]

you guys play any games lately ?

[crimson scroll]

Ciries skylines good

I have it

[hoary zodiac]

I too love Ciries skylines

[crimson scroll]

Same

[nocturne flicker]

Lord of the Rings Online

All the time

Too much

Send help

[pliant berry]

Nah gaming industry is dead

[sinful blade]

Because I have a coolermaster stacker 380

[lone mango]

Still playing warframe and deep rock

[nocturne flicker]

Rock and stone

[lone mango]

Got on risk of rain for the first time in a year

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

We love dialogue spam

Mine the nitra for more ammo

[onyx merlin]

Nice myself been playing Oblivion remaster

[fresh timber]

im confused

[onyx merlin]

?

[fresh timber]

dispite my 5500 and 13600kf getting the same fps in the new doom, the 5500 pc feels like its worst

same ram, same gpu. only diffrence is ssd and cpu

[lone mango]

Whats the cpu usage

[crimson scroll]

Guys hell

Help

My y60 return is past

Cant return it

Should i sell it???

I need 375)

375$

[nocturne flicker]

I shall buy for 1 potato

Good deal yes

[opaque sedge]

Whispers “make it half a potato”

[crimson scroll]

Im selling it for 170$ i paid 190$

[nocturne flicker]

Oh, yes. I shall buy for 1/4th potato

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-nod-agree-proud-jeremiah-johnson-gif-13827796

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/UTcfqjQJ3bA

[hoary zodiac]

?

[fresh timber]

Game crashed idk

[hoary zodiac]

Mmm I love dihydrogen monoxide

[velvet summit]

Dont

https://youtu.be/A4d6Ihpc1R0

[wicked oriole]

is my cpu SOC staying the same speed bad?

[hoary zodiac]

The water of 87???

[lone mango]

The drink of 87

[lone mango]

Wym by that

[lone mango]

[wicked oriole]

my cpu SOC is parked at 1.19V always, im reading an article rn thats saying its suppose to fluctuate

[lone mango]

Not a big deal imo

[wicked oriole]

https://www.guru3d.com/story/asus-bios-update-resolves-ryzen-9000-soc-voltage-lock/

[lone mango]

It doesnt fluctuate that much anyway

[hoary zodiac]

could also be an inaccurate reading

[hoary zodiac]

flash bios if you're worried

[wicked oriole]

im pretty sure the bios update brought down the SOC cause my SP score changed and the voltage changed on it iirc, but im just curious on why it says its not fluctuating post bios

[wicked oriole]

its already been flashed lol

[hoary zodiac]

what are you using to read the sensors?

[wicked oriole]

hwinfo

[hoary zodiac]

are you using hwinfo64?

[gleaming sedge]

Think walmart clearance display laptop would be a decent buy?

[lone mango]

Damn I read it as asrock bios update

Lmaoooo

[wicked oriole]

yes, havent been keeping an eye on cpu readings just gpu

[hoary zodiac]

is this on idle

[wicked oriole]

ive been lurking their subreddit too much and im scared lol

[crimson scroll]

He blocked me ☹️

[hoary zodiac]

do you have varying load?

because if you're monitoring it on the same load it's not going to jump too much

[fresh timber]

I’d block you too

[sharp charm]

What do I need to run miside cause even on my brothers steamdeck I had to cut back on a lot

[lone mango]

My ass really thought asrock fixed it 💔

[crimson scroll]

Shut up bruh nobody asked you gng

[wicked oriole]

i mean from basic desktop to full occt extreme cpu test its still stuck at 1.19

[crimson scroll]

Im selling my old case

Hopefully this guy buys it

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[pliant berry]

miside? its not particularly demanding

[sharp charm]

Yeah I know

So I don't know why the steam deck is struggling at high graphic settings

Maybe it's just too high idk

[hoary zodiac]

I swear tiktok users/gen alpha just come up with words

[gleaming sedge]

Man laptops are so expensive

[wicked oriole]

okay, i just ran variable and it moved to 1.99, however it is pulling 134W

[hoary zodiac]

see

[lone mango]

What

Thats a typo right

[hoary zodiac]

I assume it's a stress test

[wicked oriole]

yes occt extreme variable

[pliant berry]

yeah for steam deck you don't really need to try to run max settings, its a smaller display anyway

[crimson scroll]

Should i also sell my 4090 for 200$?

Its broken

[hoary zodiac]

bold you to assume that it's worth $200

it doesn't even have a 4090 in it

[crimson scroll]

Well boomer its called profit i paid 44$ for it

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

why do you think it's $44

[crimson scroll]

It’s repairable just gonna need a working 4090 :)

[wicked oriole]

ez

[crimson scroll]

gee idk probably because i bought it for 44$?

[lone mango]

Which means

Thats probably what it is worth

[crimson scroll]

Nuhuh im tryna make money lol

[lone mango]

I am sure there is a store near you

[crimson scroll]

Wdym

[hoary zodiac]

I mean they'll take it for parts

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

definitely not for $200

[crimson scroll]

How mich and what store

[junior willow]

i purchased the gpu and ram and the GPU WORKS I JUST TRIED IT IN MY PC

[lone mango]

heeheeheeha

[hoary zodiac]

2016?

nice

[junior willow]

got a 2060 12gb and 32 gb of 3600 for 55 dollars

[lone mango]

Bought it and never played it

[hoary zodiac]

ALL of that for $35?

[lone mango]

Bought eternal in 2021 and played for 95 minutes

[hoary zodiac]

is it a legit 2060?

[junior willow]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

in this market?

wtf?

[lone mango]

Thats a good pair right there

3600 and 2060

[junior willow]

are you being sarcastic rn pluh

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's old but it's worth more than $35

[hoary zodiac]

no

[junior willow]

oh thank goodness

[hoary zodiac]

gpus are overpriced a shell these days

[upper rain]

hell yeah lol

[hoary zodiac]

for $35 that's a steal

[upper rain]

i forget what card is it again?

[junior willow]

yeah i took it on the gamble that it might not work and it works perfectly fine

[lone mango]

Basically free

[upper rain]

based lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

it's not even $35

it's $35 for the gpu and the other stuff

[upper rain]

now you need to maximize profits by flipping it and reinvesting in lotto tickets and blackjack

[junior willow]

its a (https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-2060-VENTUS-GP-12G-OC)

[hoary zodiac]

ngl

flipping it will probably get you a couple hundred dollars

[junior willow]

i like your funny words magic man

[upper rain]

2060 12GB is a neat card, i kinda want one lol

[hoary zodiac]

like

[opaque sedge]

Steal?!? Thats a goddamn robbery

[hoary zodiac]

that's a hell of a flip here

[junior willow]

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

i need a donor pc to flip with tho

[hoary zodiac]

optiplex

[upper rain]

what so you have that works?

[hoary zodiac]

does it need a 6 pin?

[junior willow]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-shyboos-smile-gif-24233810

[hoary zodiac]

kaby lake optiplex

if you need to make it sellabl

[junior willow]

needs an 8 and a 6

[hoary zodiac]

swap the case, get a new psu

put some cheap rgb fans in it

sell it for $500-600

not kaby lake sorry

coffee lake

[lone mango]

I have a 5600, 32 gigs of cl16 3200, a 6600 and a 500 gig ssd that came with my 9600x

This is almost a whole system

[junior willow]

cant wait till they release macha lake

[upper rain]

you can get very nice Montech cases with heaps of RGB fans for like $50. toss some cheap board/cpu/ram and that 2060 in there and you're mint for a local flip

[hoary zodiac]

I'd spend less

montech is too good for flips

[lone mango]

Idk should I max extract and sell individually

[hoary zodiac]

we don't have to assume that we need good airflow

[lone mango]

It would be annoying though

[upper rain]

i don't see any cheaper options once you factor in the cost of buying (even cheap) rgb fans. the montech gear is about as value as it gets

[hoary zodiac]

we can assume that they're not going to upgrade it

[lone mango]

Facebook npcs are a job of their own to deal with

[hoary zodiac]

I mean the fans are optional

[upper rain]

rgb and nice cases are how you maximize flips. a pretty case with rgb fans is one thing you don't want to lose out on

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mfd9pK

[upper rain]

selling on hwswap or smth? nobody cares

doing a local flip? they want da funny blinky lights

[gleaming sedge]

Newegg good place to buy laptop?

[hoary zodiac]

I know, I'm saying it can be cheaper

[lone mango]

Yeah as long as you have rgb the npcs will flood

Even those cheap ones with the stupid remote

[upper rain]

those are so silly lol

[lone mango]

They love it

[nocturne flicker]

The top comment

[upper rain]

bread and circus to satiate the masses

[junior willow]

idk if yall remember but i found that 1660 in that EGPU a bit ago

im boutta test it on my pc wish me luck

[upper rain]

rgb and tempered glass to satiate the masses

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xFV2FT/gamemax-defender-mb-atx-mid-tower-case-defender-mb

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

this is good

for marketing value

[junior willow]

if i was a brainless rgb lover i think id buy that

(im a brainless rgb lover)

[crimson scroll]

Oh my god you guys arent gonna believe what i found on fb marketplace

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

it's something terrible isn't it

[lone mango]

I forgot to add the motherboard too

All I need is a psu, case and fans

[crimson scroll]

Worse than terrivle, horrendous

[lone mango]

But I think I will max extract and sell individually

[opaque sedge]

Anybody else playing expedition 33?

[lone mango]

Thing is though, I dont have the plastic tray for the cpu

[hoary zodiac]

le le baguette

[upper rain]

atp in AM4 lifetime it is almost an afterthought tbf lol. my local market is pretty awful and i have heaps of $50 b550's and whatnot available (and that's asking price, no shot they're all firm lol)

[pliant berry]

I was listening to the soundtrack earlier, quite nice

[lone mango]

Itx holds its valie

[gleaming sedge]

Hmm maybe a frameworks laptop so I could change things about it

[hoary zodiac]

what parts do you need

[lone mango]

My board is going fpr 130+ on ebay

[opaque sedge]

Even french people have a hard time understanding the lyrics apparently cuz they apparently filled em with custom modified latin

[upper rain]

gl with the flip dude, i'm glad the lootbox pc worked out. ngl i was expecting it all to be dead, i just wanted the autopsy report lmfao

was everything working or did he had a dead PSU or smth and couldn't diagnose?

[lone mango]

psu case and fans

almost complete

[hoary zodiac]

gpu?

[lone mango]

yeah

[pliant berry]

lol

[hoary zodiac]

let's say

6700XT

just to measure the psu

[lone mango]

Its the 6600 im getting rid of

[hoary zodiac]

wait you have a gpu?

[fresh timber]

I’ll buy for $5

[opaque sedge]

Do u have a micro center near you?

Some could carry open box cards

[lone mango]

yeah i basically upgraded the whole system

[opaque sedge]

Omahgod

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WbFv7R

$114

[opaque sedge]

This is the closest i’ve seen it to msrp

[hoary zodiac]

not the best

[lone mango]

i have a leftover b550, 5600, ddr4, 6600 and a 500 gig ssd from the 9600 bundle

[hoary zodiac]

unfortunately for you the gpu market is getting better so i'd say

[opaque sedge]

I’m tempted to smite a hammer down on my 4070super now

[hoary zodiac]

$600-700

for the whole machine

[lone mango]

Thats more than what I spent going to am5

[hoary zodiac]

I'm being generous

could be worth less

[lone mango]

Even if 500

[hoary zodiac]

but RGB is a good price inflater

[lone mango]

500 would break even

[hoary zodiac]

try for 600

[opaque sedge]

Context when i got my gpu i also bought a store insurance for it from microcenter and basically they will take back a broken puece of hardware for the retail price i paid for it if anything happens to it in a two year period and i like to make jokes abt it

[hoary zodiac]

it's a good lowball margin

[upper rain]

nice, i'd snag tbh

[lone mango]

I gotta sell the gpu as soon as possible

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

market is not gonna keep being bad

hmm

[opaque sedge]

Regrettably i have had to use that insurance for a lovely gpu(s) i had in the past

[hoary zodiac]

maybe $550

that's realistic

[junior willow]

ngl i ONLY bought the gpu and ram from him but ima ask to maybe buy the rest on the low and see what works and what doesnt

[hoary zodiac]

because you have ryzen

[junior willow]

GUYS THE 1660 TI I FOUND IN THE TRASH STILL WORKS

[hoary zodiac]

that's still relatively modern

even though it's am4

[junior willow]

im currently using it to type this message rn

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAH

WTF

[upper rain]

ah fair fair. $35 for working 2060 12GB and some ram is a steal. ram alone is probs ~$30

[lone mango]

Surprisingly the 5600 is inflated right now

[hoary zodiac]

ye ye yeo

do it

sell sell sell

[lone mango]

Selling for like 90 on ebay, ridiculous

[opaque sedge]

My beautiful 7900xt… i hope u were refurbished and are now in a good owner’s hands

[upper rain]

nice lol

[hoary zodiac]

build a pc and sell for a stupid price

[junior willow]

the happy chemicals in my brain are insane rn

[opaque sedge]

you mean scam a struggling single mom trying to surprise her son

[upper rain]

hypothetically, how much would you be flipping the 206 12GB for?

[hoary zodiac]

it's not a scam if it's the market normal

[upper rain]

oops

[hoary zodiac]

👍

[upper rain]

@junior willow

[junior willow]

idk yet

i can barely find any prices for 12gb 2060s

[hoary zodiac]

it's not worth that much but nobody is selling hardware for what it's worth rn

[opaque sedge]

Tbh nvidia is alr doing with the xx60 tier cards to most parents

[upper rain]

keep me posted bc i may be interested if you end up selling it parted out vs as a build

[upper rain]

true lol, i don't have a clue what they go for either lmfao

[junior willow]

if i get lucky with some deals i may make a build out of it

DANG THE 12 GB ARE SO EXPENSIVE

[upper rain]

are they?

[junior willow]

why are the 12 gb so expensive are they rare

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

vram

[junior willow]

theyre expensive compared to the 6 ig

[hoary zodiac]

nvidia is scummy

and likes putting 6-8GB ram on their dgpus

so the high vram variants are worth a decent chunk

[opaque sedge]

Guys remember when these were once below 5 hundies

[junior willow]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-13724048537815479089

[hoary zodiac]

do you have a 12gb?

wtf?

[junior willow]

IM SO GOATED

[upper rain]

kinda. they were a new-old stock last gen refresh during 3000 series bc Nvidia had a bunch of TU106 dies laying around

[hoary zodiac]

you lucky bastard

[junior willow]

yessir

[upper rain]

so not very high volume at all

[junior willow]

im literally him btw

[upper rain]

there were like 2 models for them total

[hoary zodiac]

you're giving me ideas

[junior willow]

this might be the greatest deal ive ever encountered in my life btw

[hoary zodiac]

now I'm tempted to spend stupid amounts of money on used hardware

[junior willow]

im getting fired up rn i feel the need to peruse marketplace now

[opaque sedge]

My local microcenter has a boatload of nvidia cards rn but the radeon cards are dry af 💀

[upper rain]

what are you wanting to buy?

[hoary zodiac]

hardware for flips

[upper rain]

there is a reason for this hehe

[hoary zodiac]

a pc with a crappy cpu/gpu

and then a pc with the opposite

and swap the hardware

sell both

profit

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/gt1030-cat-deepfake-nvidia-gif-22635609

[hoary zodiac]

a lot of pcs get weighed down by a crappy cpu/gpu

[proud jackal]

wonder whats its like to have a good pc

[hoary zodiac]

so sometimes you can score a jackpot

[opaque sedge]

Enlighten me pls (i actually really dont know but trying to be sarcastic)

[tranquil pebble]

48 GB RAM kit is on the way for my laptop.

[upper rain]

"a lot of pcs get weighed down by being a bad pc"

[hoary zodiac]

Mr 5090:

[tranquil pebble]

fire hazard disguised as a GPU

[opaque sedge]

Means u prolly have a good job and most likely a good quality of life

[hoary zodiac]

mmm I love 12vhpwr

[upper rain]

Blackwell sucks ass and Radeon only provides <15% of total volume at the best of times. nobody wants 5000 series and AMD can't produce enough 9000 series

[opaque sedge]

Yeah the launch for the 9000 series felt like a fire that died too soon

[upper rain]

a good pc my friend. not fire hazards

[opaque sedge]

[hoary zodiac]

Ooooo

This is $350 aud, has a RX570

That's like $220

[upper rain]

throw a better GPU in and resell

easy

[hoary zodiac]

would nee a psu upgrade

although

6700XT can run on 550w right>

[nocturne flicker]

Fire hazards are friends not food

[upper rain]

they're still better than Nvidia offerings imo, but it is a bit disappointing that we're comparing $800 XT's to $1000 70 ti's vs $600 and $750 respectively

[hoary zodiac]

Hmmmm

[upper rain]

if that's still AUD then not a bad deal

[proud jackal]

no one wants to buy my 4090

[upper rain]

drivers for RDNA 1 work finally and all the A0 silicon cards are probs dead or returned by now lol

[upper rain]

how much

[hoary zodiac]

honestly a zen 2 rig with a 5700xt is a perfect pairing

that is literally just my old rig but slightly different

[upper rain]

true

[hoary zodiac]

although I don't trust it on a 550w

[fresh timber]

Is this cursed

[hoary zodiac]

should be fine eh?

[fresh timber]

Temporary rig is fun

[upper rain]

fugly AIO block, but otherwise no

[hoary zodiac]

TPU recommends 550w for the 5700XT

surely a 225w gpu and a 3700x can run on a 550w

[fresh timber]

It’s not fugly 😦

[junior willow]

this looks like a mildly W deal

[upper rain]

it's not a very high power draw GPU and transients aren't really an issue for it

you'll be fine esp with a 3700x

[hoary zodiac]

I might have a jackpot on my hands

[upper rain]

they barely consume any energy at all

[upper rain]

looks like a ventus tho :/

[junior willow]

oh you right

[fresh timber]

how does it fail in the future

[junior willow]

thats the only pic of the actual gpu and i can barely see it

[upper rain]

the Gaming X has the dragon logo on the fans, and the Ventus has "MSI" on the fans so i assume ventus. although it looks kinda weird. probs just reflection/tinted antistatic bag

[proud jackal]

what should we do tonight

[random osprey]

kbbq

[fresh timber]

Over the counter medication

[upper rain]

how much is this?

[proud jackal]

your treat? 😮

[fresh timber]

Your allergies are messing with you so you need the drugs

[proud jackal]

too expensive.

[random osprey]

no, nahts

[proud jackal]

let us thank naht

[upper rain]

that's probably why

[proud jackal]

thank you @rigid sinew

[fresh timber]

Naht single handily controls the gpu market

[proud jackal]

everyone thank her rn or else

[rigid sinew]

For

[proud jackal]

wolf said kbbq is on you tonight

[crimson scroll]

Worth? Its a entire gamiyn/ streaming setup

[fresh timber]

I’m hungry

[upper rain]

steal

[fresh timber]

Better come with oled monitors and custom keyboard

[upper rain]

comes with cooch crust and pubes

[hoary zodiac]

should I case swap it

or is it not worth it

[chrome surge]

I love Newegg sm, ordered today and it’s coming tmw

[fresh timber]

What’s for dinner @rigid sinew, also I graduated, wheres my custom wegg 5090ti super

[junior willow]

if it comes with 1300 in cash and a hand shake

[crimson scroll]

2 desks 2 chairs 2 monitors, pretty doubtful of OLED

[hoary zodiac]

It's got this piece of crap

[fresh timber]

Do it, I did

Buy nv5

[crimson scroll]

Said desks are huge

[hoary zodiac]

nah

au market

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/62GhP6/kolink-observatory-mx-mesh-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-observatory-mx-mb

I reckon this is good

[fresh timber]

Looks like crap

Buy what ever gn says is good

[hoary zodiac]

it has rgb

it's got airflow

[junior willow]

i know a K in intel is for overclocking but what on earth is a T for, ive never seen that

[hoary zodiac]

low power

[junior willow]

ohh so its MID

[hoary zodiac]

so I'm looking at $520 aud

[junior willow]

i HATE saving the environment

[crimson scroll]

Ohhhh

I see

I thought T was garbage

I see i see

[hoary zodiac]

wtf?

$485 for 13700k and 4070?

sus?

[crimson scroll]

Lol

They gonna ask you for SSN next

[rigid sinew]

Congrats !

[rigid sinew]

Syke

[hoary zodiac]

gaming pc i7

looks at listing

z170

[crimson scroll]

Hate how they do this lol

They just say i7

5000$

Like wut

Lol

guys i MAY be building this guy a pc

[proud jackal]

😦

@rigid sinewmy anime convention is next week is newegg showing up

[rigid sinew]

Idk 😦

[proud jackal]

[junior willow]

wait no shot, is the 2060 12gb better than my 3060

wait nvm i was looking at dumb website

[hoary zodiac]

no

not by a long shot

like I wouldn't recommend this card

if not for the fact that it's dirt cheap

[junior willow]

yeah i was tweaking

[hoary zodiac]

ah crap

the cx550m has one of those split cables

ughhhh

[dusk knot]

niceeee

[crimson scroll]

Yup

[hoary zodiac]

ehhhhhhhhh

should be fine to run it on a split cable right?

I mean it's not a particularly power hungry card

[crimson scroll]

Whats a good labor price? Guy may want me to build him a pc

Is 150$ good?

Id say thats ablut the standard for a prebuilt

[upper rain]

pcie 6/8 pins are good for >300w of power. as long as the cables on your PSU aren't garbage you'll be fine

[hoary zodiac]

it's a cx550m

[upper rain]

reminder that the 12vhpwr connector uses weaker pins than the PCIE 8/6 pin connector, and is rated for 600w with the same number of 12v pins as a PCIE 6 pin

[hoary zodiac]

it's not a bomb

[upper rain]

eh should be fine

[crimson scroll]

Old corsair psus are goated

[hoary zodiac]

is it 300w for a single connector

i assume so

[upper rain]

official spec is 150w but they're capable of welllll above that

[hoary zodiac]

assuming the gpu runs at tdp

[upper rain]

limiting factor is what the PSU is capable of, and then cable quality if they're total garbage

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SAWtKEIYbw

which is reflected from this

[hoary zodiac]

yeah I think a 550w is just about able to handle the whole system

not much headroom but not too tight

[upper rain]

225w GPU, 65w CPU. i think you'll be okay lol

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

the peak power consumption doesn't really go above the TDP

unless it's overclocked

I think we're good

[upper rain]

AMD under reports this on older gens bc their current sense simply isn't capable of tracking spikes very well, but it shouldn't be by a large enough margin to matter

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

[upper rain]

one of the many fixes RDNA 4 brought

[lone mango]

Dude look at this killer gaming pc man

Rgb slop with remote

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's a 3700x too so

let's say worse case scenario

90w cpu and 250w gpu peak power consumption

there's still headroom

[hoary zodiac]

where??

[upper rain]

mhm, ur good

[hoary zodiac]

I'm more worried about the pcie split cable than the psu itself

in theory it's fine

[upper rain]

.

it's fine, i wouldn't even sweat it

[hoary zodiac]

the 12vhpwr standard is a joke

[upper rain]

yeah lmao

it's not exactly the gold standard

but point remains

[hoary zodiac]

when you have to break the standard to make a safer card

then something's very wrong

defeats the whole point of having a standard

[upper rain]

if you can kinda in theory get away with 600w on that POS (main issue being the connector getting loose vs the connector not being able to handle the current under idea operating conditions) then running 180-200 ish watts off of a daisychained 8 pin is going to be fine

[lone mango]

Nah I was making a joke

[hoary zodiac]

would be funny if this would actually be safer

it might be tbh

[upper rain]

the power rating isn't that bad, it's just that the connector is physically garbage (doesn't slot in properly) and PCI SIG + Nvidia made it impossible to monitor current across pins bc their standard arbitrarily mandates all 12v inputs immediately run into a unified plane for whatever reason

[hoary zodiac]

if it's a properly made adapter

[lone mango]

I am ready

Time to crank max settings

Wow shader compilation took like 5 seconds

[hoary zodiac]

Based?

Mfw shaders don't take half an hour to compile

I'm gonna go hunting for a kitchen rack

[hoary zodiac]

🔥

Ah screw it

I'm going to Bunnings

[frigid stag]

As long as it works, it can use whatever connector

[wicked oriole]

comparing my bios now the new one runs my 9800x3d at 30mhz less, was running at 5256 now its at 5226 according to steel nomad

[hoary zodiac]

sample size?

it's within the margin of error

[worn wave]

0.57% difference

Not 5.7, 0.57

[hoary zodiac]

anything could've cause that variation

[worn wave]

Yup

[hoary zodiac]

if you re-run it you'd likely get a different result

you know what this is a nice stand

would be nicer if it's black tho

hmmm

[gleaming sedge]

What are good brands of laptops anymore

[hoary zodiac]

your mistake is looking for brands

rather than products

[frigid stag]

There’s probably at least one to avoid

Whether it’s about warranty or something else

[hoary zodiac]

damn

these shelfs are too high for my liking

not enough tiers

[gleaming sedge]

Some brands do have their flaws though for sure

[hoary zodiac]

if you buy based on brand

[gleaming sedge]

Like hp I feel is very well know for hinge problems

[hoary zodiac]

you can buy from a reputable brand and still have a bad product

if you buy based on a product

[gleaming sedge]

Oh for sure

[hoary zodiac]

you know the product is bad so you won't buy it anyways

[gleaming sedge]

I'm not buying just by brand though

[worn night]

whaddup char

[hoary zodiac]

there is no answer to if there are good laptop brands

[worn night]

chat

[hoary zodiac]

they can make a good one this year

[gleaming sedge]

I am just thinking about ones that are good to start with since there are companies should just avoid in total

[hoary zodiac]

and the next year they can pump out utter garbage

[gleaming sedge]

K nvm then

Walmart had a IdeaPad might just go with that it's the display model so has been used and probably abused but oh well

[hoary zodiac]

I can tell you what brands are bad

[junior willow]

Is this am4 compatible

[hoary zodiac]

well

actually no I can't

because the answer is "soldered memory, poor cooling, etc"

[hoary zodiac]

is that one of those where they weave the bits

[junior willow]

Idk but it's bigger than a normal cpu so it must be more powerful

[gleaming sedge]

Unless spent the loads of money and went framework as they don't have some of them problems for the most part

[hoary zodiac]

eh

framework

not really practical

the cost per unit is too high

not just for the laptop

but for the modules too

more practical to just hop between different laptops across several years

for the same amount of money

[gleaming sedge]

Just don't want to drop over 1k for a decent one but going to have to if want something probably

[hoary zodiac]

what's the usecase?

[gleaming sedge]

Mostly looking things up, playing light games maybe stardew, lots of chrome tabs if I go down a rabbit hole, long battery life, photoshop/lightroom

[hoary zodiac]

that's worth nowhere near $1000

I can do that with my $100 kaby lake laptop

[gleaming sedge]

Yea I'd like touch screen though

[frigid stag]

For a new laptop 1k is pretty normal

[hoary zodiac]

still nowhere near 1000

to get that base functionality

[frigid stag]

Considering the cheaper ones are more cut down

[gleaming sedge]

So that hurts the price along with ideally amd since I'm not a fan of Intel

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[frigid stag]

Probably 800 though

[hoary zodiac]

intel is fine

as long as it's core ultra

[gleaming sedge]

Yes and no

[hoary zodiac]

why?

[frigid stag]

I have a 13 gen i7 it’s fine

[hoary zodiac]

they're more power efficient

and they will probably run better than ryzen for adobe

[gleaming sedge]

Cpu yes but morals to me no

[frigid stag]

Haven’t seen it heat up much

[hoary zodiac]

morals?

[frigid stag]

What about morals?

[hoary zodiac]

amd is just as bad

have you seen what they tried to pull with ryzen 5000?

tried to backstab the consumer the second they stopped being the underdog

[frigid stag]

Or zen 4 prices

[gleaming sedge]

Every new cpu generation its a new socket so you have to upgrade pretty much a vast majority of your pc just because they wanted to move a pin over to a new location

[hoary zodiac]

I mean they pulled that with zen 3 as well

[frigid stag]

Surprisingly 11 gen isn’t as far away in ipc as people think to zen 4

[gleaming sedge]

I've considered i7 just unsure

[hoary zodiac]

AMD tried to get away with not supporting Ryzen 5000 with b450

so

they're literally guilty of the same thing

they didn't succeed but they would if they could

also purposely withheld the 5700x, 5600 non x

[frigid stag]

I think that was b350 only

[hoary zodiac]

for over a year

[frigid stag]

450 worked iirc

[hoary zodiac]

nope

they tried that with b450 until asrock and msi did it anyways

[gleaming sedge]

I'm more willing to go intel for laptop since it's a use for a bit and toss type of thing unlike a desk top where you can upgrade it

[hoary zodiac]

I really wouldn't shill AMD

they're just as bad

these corporations owe no loyalty to you

[gleaming sedge]

Meh

[hoary zodiac]

just buy what's the best

[gleaming sedge]

They still went a long time on the same motherboard socket

[gleaming sedge]

And for laptop I might pc I'll stick to only needing to replace cpu next and not motherboard for awhile longer

What also sucks the price up more is 32gb of ram

[hoary zodiac]

buy what's best for you

not because it's from AMD

AMD is just as likely to rugpull as intel

[gleaming sedge]

Bro not even listening at this point

Lol

I already have a amd desktop so I don't plan going Intel for desktop because of that

Laptop sure

[worn night]

Is my combo good

[hoary zodiac]

yes but I'm not talking about your desktop

[gleaming sedge]

Ok so you are just not listening then as I already said I plan to buy what's best for me even if Intel

MacBook is just out of the question

[hoary zodiac]

that was not clear

I understand now

[worn night]

guysss

[hoary zodiac]

what combo?

[gleaming sedge]

I'm also thinking amazon probably would be for the most part best seller option, newegg does not have a ton, microcenter does not either, and best buy can go buzz off

[hoary zodiac]

go with anything with non soldered memory that has a decent price/performance

[gleaming sedge]

Touch screen more than likely won't have the option sadly

[gleaming sedge]

Every laptop on newegg that fits what I'm looking for is 899.99 and up

[hoary zodiac]

the Thinkpad E16 has non soldered and a touchscreen

for $599

not official seller so kinda sus

oh there's some on newegg too

$699

might not be the touchscreen model

let's see here

[gleaming sedge]

Also looking for a fairly decent size screen

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000E-1BBH4?Item=9SIA7ABKCG2351

[gleaming sedge]

Bit more pricy than was hoping but might have to do

Also good no HDD

[hoary zodiac]

it's a recent processor so

[gleaming sedge]

My main complaint is it can not fold into more of a tablet style

[hoary zodiac]

well

you can't get everything you want for this price

[gleaming sedge]

But that's probably fine really

[hoary zodiac]

unless you go used with an older architecture

oh wait

[gleaming sedge]

Most of the time I use my surface like a laptop granted only half of the touch on the screen works

[hoary zodiac]

my search term is still limtied to thinkpad

hold up

[gleaming sedge]

My biggest problem is no reviews

[hoary zodiac]

so you want a 2 in 1

[gleaming sedge]

Ideally but I'm honestly thinking it don't matter longs I can use the screen decently

Biggest complaint with my surface was no fixed keyboard so if I wanted a weird angle it wouldn't work

Could take a loan out and get the one you sent

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1XV-000A-02HB7?Item=9SIAJZDKEH7075

also don't go with the thinkpad

my search term was broken

it was stuck to thinkpads

[gleaming sedge]

Why?

[hoary zodiac]

because you can get a 8640HS for less than $600

gonna check if the ram is upgradable

bit sus

no model number

these probably all have soldered ram

which is a bummer

https://www.newegg.com/p/1XV-000A-02HC4

32GB model is $612

[gleaming sedge]

Yea and 16 ain't ideal for sure

[hoary zodiac]

ok

looks like it's an inspiron 14

[gleaming sedge]

Screen is bit smaller than looking for

[hoary zodiac]

what are you looking for exactly

[gleaming sedge]

Minum of 15" looking at 15.6 I really liked it

Minimum*

[hoary zodiac]

what

I'm stealing that

if this pic is legit it's got 2 dimms lots too

[gleaming sedge]

Also would be doing fusion360 work

[hoary zodiac]

you're saying this now?

alright

[rancid juniper]

I don't take sources at face value first glance but W T F???????????????????????????????

sorry for bringing this up lol

[hoary zodiac]

that looks like twitter being stupid

[rancid juniper]

yea, there's no way they would do that right?

[remote geode]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

amazing

[hoary zodiac]

see the thing is

I don't even know

twitter can just make something up

and you can't tell

not in 2025

[rancid juniper]

guess ill do a bit of research brb

[hoary zodiac]

should run on the igpu

[remote geode]

move on people, it's another one of "let's flood the media of absurd things" media strategy of the current admin

[rancid juniper]

oh man TF?

[hoary zodiac]

I don't trust mainstream news

[frigid stag]

Yea like that guy who got ratio’d for saying there were more trees than stars or whatever it was

[remote geode]

what is this software

[frigid stag]

Even though he was right

[hoary zodiac]

it's really easy to trick mainstream media

[rancid juniper]

true

[gleaming sedge]

Imma hit the hey good night yall

[frigid stag]

Real

[remote geode]

I trust non-US news outlets more tbh

[hoary zodiac]

I trust Al-Jazerra

[remote geode]

nhk, aljazeera, bbc, I personally try to keep it diverse

[hoary zodiac]

but they're not exactly the best source for news within the US

[frigid stag]

Mid wits in the replies were like “I studied astronomy and he’s incorrect”
At that point get your money back 💀

[hoary zodiac]

I usually use non-us news because

I don't live in the US

[remote geode]

oh yeah, Deutsche Welle and ARD

[rancid juniper]

Twitter is that one site that makes you feel smarter

[hoary zodiac]

US news is terrible for world news

[rancid juniper]

because my goodness the iq on the site is dummy low

[hoary zodiac]

and world news isn't the most accurate for US news

[frigid stag]

Same with Reddit

[hoary zodiac]

everyone always has an agenda

it's hard to get factual information these days

without putting in the work

[rancid juniper]

fr

[hoary zodiac]

go on r/amd

and talk about how core ultra is better than ryzen mobile

[rancid juniper]

it gets annoying man

[frigid stag]

For showing off basic (a lot of the time wrong) information

[frigid stag]

There’s people there that think am4 is better than lga1700

[hoary zodiac]

depends

[remote geode]

US news is mostly domestic, since they've just turned to pander to the local audience in order to keep people distracted from the techbro takeover that's happening XD

[hoary zodiac]

am4 can be... on par with what

[frigid stag]

“At least it won’t melt itself”

[hoary zodiac]

alder lake with ddr4

[hoary zodiac]

that's BS

that's been fixed for ages

[frigid stag]

Depends which cpu 5600x is around 12400f performance

But the higher end CPU’s there’s a bigger difference

[hoary zodiac]

technically the statement can be true

it's just a very specific scenario

that doesn't apply uniformly to all LGA1700

[frigid stag]

If you don’t update the bios it can happen

[hoary zodiac]

and if you use a larger sample size

LGA1700 is just better

[remote geode]

I can't wait to try out RT shadows with my new B580

for CP2077

[hoary zodiac]

however if you're comparing a 5700X3D with LGA1700 in gaming benchmarks

[remote geode]

that's my only dream hehe

[hoary zodiac]

you can probably manipulate the data into showing that ryzen is better

by being very specific in your testing

[remote geode]

reverse userbenchmark style

[frigid stag]

~~ gamers nexus benchmarks showing it beating a 14900k in some racing game~~

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

GN shows a variety of benchmarks

so if someone tries to do that with a GN video

they can be disproven with the same video

[frigid stag]

Idk why he only uses 6000mts ram on intel

And 3200 for the ddr4

[hoary zodiac]

to be fair

if both are at 6000

that's a more fair comparison

[sinful blade]

Just sold my 5700g for $25

[rancid juniper]

...

too low

[frigid stag]

Thing is amd caps out at around 6000 to 6400

[hoary zodiac]

well I mean

[frigid stag]

Intel can do at least 7600

[hoary zodiac]

you'd have to spend more on ram too

[worn wave]

Probably because that's what most ddr4 users are going to be using

[frigid stag]

It’s not that expensive anymore

[hoary zodiac]

the benchmarks don't test for the silicon at the best

[frigid stag]

They’re not using cl14 bdie

[hoary zodiac]

they test for how they perform under similar circumstances

it's up to the consumer to determine if they want to spend more money on ram

[frigid stag]

It’s to get rid of any limitations

[hoary zodiac]

It's the most scientific method

to compare cpus

I'm not sure if I'm misrememebering but I do remember some youtuber showing comparison with different ram freq

brb

[frigid stag]

3200 c14 is like good ram but not really that much better at xmp compared to 3200c16

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD-4ScpDSo8

seems like it's only in ram specific videos

[frigid stag]

That was when ddr5 was expensive iirc

[hoary zodiac]

to be fair

it still shows the difference

wait

[frigid stag]

Now 6000c30 is like the go to for amd

[hoary zodiac]

WAIT

WTF IS THIS

5200CL40

[frigid stag]

yep

[hoary zodiac]

5200CL40 vs 6000CL30?

ehh?

launch bin?

[frigid stag]

Pretty sure they started using 7200 ram on intel nowadays

[frigid stag]

Probably

[hoary zodiac]

7200CL34 is decent tbh

[frigid stag]

It cost a lot back then

Like 400 bucks almost

[hoary zodiac]

although the contranst from 5600CL40 to 7200CL34 is pretty sus

I expected a bit higher

[frigid stag]

Tbf it is xmp so the timings could be alot better

Plus it’s gpu demanding games on ultra settings

Need to something more cpu bound to see the differences

[hoary zodiac]

there's non ultra benches

1080p high on a 4090

although it's cyberpunk

not sure how demanding that game is

3% from 5600 to 7200

bit sus

since there's a bigger gap on ryzen

[frigid stag]

Ye it’s strange

[hoary zodiac]

I suspect it's 3D cache

[frigid stag]

Probably

[hoary zodiac]

anyways yeah

I do agree that benchmarks should bench higher freq alongside 6000mhz

because that would affect the consumer's decision

to purchase one or more parts

[frigid stag]

Ye 100%

It was probably more important on the ddr4 stuff like 9, 10 11 gen etc

[hoary zodiac]

I started putting 6400CL32 kits instead of 6000CL30 for this very reason

prices fluctuate

although

ryzen can handle that anyways

[frigid stag]

To be fair if it’s adie you can overclock it pretty well

So it’s somewhat future proof

[hoary zodiac]

cheapst kits

vs

we have a 6600 here

even better

[frigid stag]

That’s neat

[hoary zodiac]

7000 CL32

[frigid stag]

Even the 8200 stuff is pretty cheap

[hoary zodiac]

bunch of 7200

[frigid stag]

Only 130

[hoary zodiac]

we're getting to the point where ram's getting cheaper

[worn wave]

6600cl34 is actually higher latency than 6000cl30 and 6400cl32

[frigid stag]

~~ 32 is the new 16gb~~

[worn wave]

https://www.techpowerup.com/dram-latency/

[hoary zodiac]

what about 6800 cl34

oh wait I can just use the calc

[frigid stag]

I tried 1 of those it told me 3200 c12 was 0ns

I think it was bugged

[hoary zodiac]

7200CL32 is decent

I wonder if I can get one of those kits

and then tune it down to 6400MHz for ryzen

[frigid stag]

Ye the one I used was bugged

Didn’t work right

[hoary zodiac]

because these days ram's cheap enough

by ram I mean ddr5

that you can have quite a bit of fun with them

without breaking the bank

[frigid stag]

Might be time to use 64gb

Now that it’s cheap

[hoary zodiac]

honestly yeah

I was a 32GB adopter before it become truly widespread

(I played modded cities skylines)

[frigid stag]

Unless you’re making a more budget build

Based

[hoary zodiac]

it was around like 2020

32GB rigs were a thing

[frigid stag]

was 32gb even widespread until recently

[hoary zodiac]

but people weren't straight up recommending them

[hoary zodiac]

nope

[potent dune]

boomer would you perchance know why I can't sync all my rgb to the sane colour? my fans, mouse abd keyboard all work but my gpu just stays rainbow

[hoary zodiac]

there were 32GB builds but everyone just puts 16GB

[hoary zodiac]

because "it was enough"

[fresh nova]

Ah yes just how I like to be welcomed

[frigid stag]

My friend had some on haswell

[hoary zodiac]

software issue

[frigid stag]

That pc was insane at the time

[potent dune]

shucks how does one fix this

[worn wave]

No. 2x8gb ddr4 was the go-to, but 8gb sticks of ddr5 plus games needing more ram has made 2x16gb the new norm

[hoary zodiac]

I don't know the specifics

[potent dune]

okay

[frigid stag]

Probably from ddr5 and ram being cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

and I wouldn't know how to fix it either

I don't use rgb

try #peripherals-and-displays

[potent dune]

i was up 5 hours ago trying to figure it out😭

I'm now at work

[frigid stag]

Idk any games except maybe tarkov or star citizen where you’d need a lot of ram

And city skylines obv

[hoary zodiac]

modded*

anything modded is funny ram hog

[frigid stag]

True

[hoary zodiac]

the hell?

6400 CL32 for $139?

that's not even expensive

that's better value than 32GB

[frigid stag]

Modded minecraft in like 2014 made me realise 4gb was too little

[potent dune]

I got mine for £70 or smth

so I think around 100usd

[hoary zodiac]

this is 64GB

[frigid stag]

Reddit and those pc build servers still don’t recommend 64

Even when the guy has a 3000$ budget

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[frigid stag]

“Because you don’t need it”

[hoary zodiac]

technically you don't need it for gaming

yap yap

depends on use case

bla bla bla

although I'd still just go with 32GB

[frigid stag]

If you keep everything open you might start to see why it’s useful

[hoary zodiac]

purely because in the future you might replace the kit

with a higher frequency kit anyways

save on the current kit, get a 8000 64GB kit later

[frigid stag]

I mean if you have more than like 2k to spend I’d probably say go with 64

On ddr5

[hoary zodiac]

eh

depends on the use case

to be fair

[frigid stag]

Or 48gb

[hoary zodiac]

windows is a massive ram hog

I completely forgot about windows

[frigid stag]

That’s more reasonable

Yea that’s what I’m talking about

[hoary zodiac]

oh yeah 48GB is a good headroom

[frigid stag]

If you leave programs open you start to see how much ram it can use

Even more on Windows 11

[hoary zodiac]

e

errr no

the 48GB kits are dogcrap

compared to the 64

[frigid stag]

Probably not worth it

[hoary zodiac]

there's one kit's that a bit cheaper (but it's crap)

and the decent kits costs just as much as 64GB

[frigid stag]

Is it more expensive to make or

[hoary zodiac]

probably because they make less of it

it's more of a niche capacity

[frigid stag]

Corsair with the 230$ 6000c30 48gb ram 💀

(It has rgb tho)

[hoary zodiac]

imagine paying $230 for corsair

it's not even good ram

$230 I better get CL15

[frigid stag]

So this is it

[hoary zodiac]

what

[frigid stag]

Interesting

[hoary zodiac]

that looks like what you would see in an oem apple pc

T-create looks better

[frigid stag]

This ones more like 250 the platinum is 230

[hoary zodiac]

it's basic

[worn wave]

Just get 32, more than enough for now (for gaming, workstation/editing might use more)
"I have the budget so I might as well overspend" is the future proofing fallacy. Your money is worth more on the future and components depreciate (with the exception of GPUs because ai and stuff is crazy)

[frigid stag]

Yea

[hoary zodiac]

they tried to look sleek