general-chat

[paper verge]

this is what americans do to feel better about smashing 10 burgers

[fresh timber]

i like this card but not its price

shipping is poop wthg

why are all these cards shipping so long

[lone mango]

Either get a 5070 at msrp or dont get it

This is just my take tho

[fresh timber]

i can get msrp ones but all the msrp ones im getting alerts for are poop small 2 fan ones

[hoary zodiac]

Sausage burgers are good and cheap

[fresh timber]

this one keeps getting srestocked

[hoary zodiac]

Well it's a different texture

[fresh timber]

that card keeps going for msrp

[proud jackal]

buy 5090

[fresh timber]

i really went from 9070xt to msrp 5070

[nocturne flicker]

Chicken burgers are pretty sad tbh

[fresh timber]

atleast 5070 goes msrp

[hoary zodiac]

KFC makes nice chicken burgers

Everyone else

Ehhhh

[fresh timber]

oh

why is 5070 barley faster than my card wtf

[nocturne flicker]

I mean chicken burger as in ground chicken burger, not a chicken sandwich

[lone mango]

Yeah because people dont want it lol

Or less people want it

[fresh timber]

mhhh

[lone mango]

Rather

[hoary zodiac]

Wdym barely faster

[fresh timber]

20fps

[hoary zodiac]

Do you have a 7800XT now

[fresh timber]

no

[hoary zodiac]

20fps is not barely faster

[fresh timber]

just 20 more fps iant really not much

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-anime-guns-loading-gun-locked-and-load-gif-12379724

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[fresh timber]

IM KEEPING MY CARD 5070 sucks

[hoary zodiac]

It's not that much newer

[fresh timber]

amd release 9060xt for $500 now

[hoary zodiac]

You can't expect 2x performance from a card one gen newer

[fresh timber]

i just want 50% for cheap asf

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-rx-9060-xt-gpu-retailer-listings-start-at-usd450

hope

[proud jackal]

but nvidia said

[fresh timber]

5070 is suppose to be a 4090

[fresh timber]

jensen would never lie

[lone mango]

[sinful blade]

I have bad news for you

[fresh timber]

how much 9070 go for

[hoary zodiac]

Not that much less

[fresh timber]

i just got an alert right now for a 5070 at msrp and its a good one no thank you

ugh

why cant we have a msrp 9070xt

[hoary zodiac]

Supply, demand, inflated market, etc

[fresh timber]

wtf

[hoary zodiac]

The bubble might pop eventually

[fresh timber]

yeah im keeping my card

this market is poo

who ever knocked sense into me thanks

mhhh monitor 🤔 tripple monitor setup when

[nocturne flicker]

The bubble will never end! Just like the housing-oh

[fresh timber]

i think boomers reasoning and thought processes is leaking into my head

get it out

[hoary zodiac]

It's called not having money

[fresh timber]

i have a confirmed $800 waiting for me on the 24th 😦 or 26th i forgo

come faster

[hoary zodiac]

Can't spend money when you don't have any

• Confucius

[fresh timber]

im surviving until graduation

[hoary zodiac]

Oh I have news for you

It doesn't get better

[fresh timber]

kek my parents are helping me

i wont be broke

[hoary zodiac]

That's what they all say

[nocturne flicker]

It gets worse, one day you shall yearn for this time

[fresh timber]

they already paid for so much crap

[fresh timber]

sir i dont want it to end

[hoary zodiac]

Oh you'll know

[fresh timber]

u think i want to grow up

[hoary zodiac]

It will come for you

[fresh timber]

silly weary

boomer ur like a year older than me too

o god 4k is in my budget

[hoary zodiac]

I have been here since the dawn of man

[lone mango]

Should I move red dead 2 to .wine or the games folder

[hoary zodiac]

Non steam?

[nocturne flicker]

Just wait, eventually you'll be putting pennies into your 401k knowing full well you'll never retire

[lone mango]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

[hoary zodiac]

Any is fine

[fresh timber]

... i just realized

[hoary zodiac]

You can probably point steam to the folder

[fresh timber]

i dont wanna upgrade my pc anymore

im scared

[hoary zodiac]

Upgrade while you can

[lone mango]

True

Ok so

[crimson scroll]

You on disability?

[hoary zodiac]

You're not getting another opportunity in another couple years

[fresh timber]

my dad is and i get benfits cause of it

[lone mango]

Im gonna move it to wine and then point steam to it

[hoary zodiac]

Get new gpu

Sell old gpu to recuperate the costs

[sinful blade]

I can’t get it cuz I’m married

[hoary zodiac]

And then sit it out

[fresh timber]

i just.. dont need one

[hoary zodiac]

For the next decade

[misty sparrow]

hey roomba

[fresh timber]

devorce for the sake of benfits

[sinful blade]

Hey bread

[lone mango]

Yes yes yes

Appreciate the hardware

[hoary zodiac]

Bro has seen the light

[crimson scroll]

Ahh i have a pretty moderate disability, i have fallen arches my ankle bones instead of being straight like | they are like / and only getting worse google says i can apply for disability should i?

[nocturne flicker]

I can't get it because I have more than the allowed assets

[misty sparrow]

i still havent started mass effect yet but what do you think of that fourth game

[sinful blade]

It would cost more to do that than I would get

[misty sparrow]

andromeda i think it's called?

[fresh timber]

i just got off fortnite, i fixed my settings and i get 300fps now.

[hoary zodiac]

Join the "minecraft with igpu" club

[crimson scroll]

It qualifies as disability just need a doctors say so

[fresh timber]

oof. wait... my dad is still married

[hoary zodiac]

I have a 3070 and I barely use it

I kinda want a radeon 780m just so I can run it off usb c

[sinful blade]

Wife gets disability so I can’t

[fresh timber]

OH

[frigid stag]

What did you do

[fresh timber]

u both cant caim it

[fresh timber]

went back to performance mode

[hoary zodiac]

Bro got power limited

[frigid stag]

Does it not stutter

[fresh timber]

no

[frigid stag]

On Radeon

[fresh timber]

i dont have problems

[frigid stag]

Oh ig they fixed

[fresh timber]

i guess so, it feels smooth to me

[hoary zodiac]

Why were you on balanced/power saver on desktop

[fresh timber]

i just got off playing ranked

[hoary zodiac]

Heat?

Noise?

[fresh timber]

how does bro know my desktop is on balanced

[sinful blade]

Yup

[frigid stag]

He means the in game performance mode instead of dx12 I think

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

[fresh timber]

yeah

[sinful blade]

Get me one

[fresh timber]

as for my desktop i run balanced. it lets my clock speed drop

[hoary zodiac]

Is that a fortnite thing

[frigid stag]

I remember when they had dx10 👴

[fresh timber]

i do not need 5.1ghz 24/7 i already idle at like 250 w

[hoary zodiac]

I turn off turbo on my laptop

[frigid stag]

Yeah and other ue5 games

[hoary zodiac]

And limit the frequency

[frigid stag]

Ue4 too probably

[fresh timber]

guess what im doing rn

[misty sparrow]

to be fair i do the same thing + turn off all the RGB lighting

[fresh timber]

@hoary zodiac what if i put 9070xt fun into good laptop 🤔

intead of praying to get a good latpop.. i can kow im getting a good latpop

[onyx merlin]

How u all

[onyx merlin]

I just finished writing my Fanfic

[hoary zodiac]

On battery

[fresh timber]

what if i .. .just stop thinking about buying crap

[hoary zodiac]

1.6GHz still pretty usable

[hoary zodiac]

Welcome to adulthood

[onyx merlin]

its 48K words had some help from AI but its basically a wish Fufillment fic. lolz

[hoary zodiac]

No money no problems

[nocturne flicker]

No money mo' problems

[fresh timber]

all i want is a new mouse, webcam, and laptop and im happy for now.. i do need a laptop anyways

[hoary zodiac]

Get a gaming laptop for uni or whatever

And you're all set

[onyx merlin]

is 48K words novel length ?

[hoary zodiac]

Or a non gaming one really

Gaming laptops are bulky

[fresh timber]

i probably am getting a "gaming" one

[onyx merlin]

or too few words ?

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair gaming laptops are more flexible

Great for something like IT and engineering

[fresh timber]

im doing IT but nothing im doing needs a gpu

[hoary zodiac]

You can get a crappy used dell like me

[fresh timber]

im not going crappy

ima get something nice

[onyx merlin]

if your going dell

Get Alienware

[hoary zodiac]

It is nice for me

[fresh timber]

ur funny

why do u have two laptops boomer

[hoary zodiac]

See if you're just taking notes for it

[hoary zodiac]

One for work, one for gaming

[fresh timber]

just use the gaming one for both 🤔

[hoary zodiac]

Nah

Not as efficient

It's more of a workflow thing

[fresh timber]

if it types it types

[hoary zodiac]

Than an actual functionality thing

[fresh timber]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-vivobook-s14-14-fhd-oled-laptop-copilot-pc-amd-ryzen-ai-9-hx-370-with-32gb-memory-1tb-ssd-neutral-black/6622099.p?skuId=6622099 imagine this but $800

[hoary zodiac]

Besides having an extra display can come in handy

And no I can't plug another monitor in

Only one display output

[fresh timber]

oh if i need extra displays ima just go on my desktop

[nocturne flicker]

40k is minimum, 50k is safer minimum

[hoary zodiac]

I think my laptop costs as much as a monitor so

[fresh timber]

ima make it so my laptop syncs with my nas

even at school, shcool upload speed is good so i can realisitcly have a 50GB file sync in the background no problem

[hoary zodiac]

You're unlikely to reach that load anyways

So you're good

[fresh timber]

yeah i wont

[nocturne flicker]

NaNoWriMo had a 50k min

[fresh timber]

biggest files i imagine im syncing is maybe virtual machines, and thats just to back up them

[hoary zodiac]

I'd manually sync those

[fresh timber]

i no longer have the want for a gaming laptop cause i remembed.. i can take my pc with me

[fresh timber]

eh i can automate it

[hoary zodiac]

Or set a timer

[fresh timber]

its not difficult

setup rsync on the vm it self

[hoary zodiac]

Rsync can be janky

I use syncthing

[fresh timber]

if it works it works

[hoary zodiac]

Well

[fresh timber]

i use that on windows until i discoverd SMB shares work well for alot of what i do currently

[hoary zodiac]

Sometimes there's some shenanigans with file versions

Bla bla bla

[fresh timber]

side note, my smb share is broken

[hoary zodiac]

Something annoying

I use NFS

I only use linux so

[fresh timber]

windows does NOT like caps in ur smb share names

[hoary zodiac]

NFS is a bit faster for my case

[fresh timber]

idk any laptops with like 780m for good prices. ugh

[hoary zodiac]

Meanwhile me and my $100 AUD kaby lake laptop

[fresh timber]

welp that was easym if this is on sale when i buy laptop in a week or how eevr long it takes to get my money https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-swift-16-ai-16-3k-oled-touch-laptop-copilot-pc-intel-core-ultra-7-series-2-16gb-memory-1tb-ssd-ice-black/6598823.p?skuId=6598823 easy

[hoary zodiac]

Sidenote

[fresh timber]

i have no ieda how good this cpu is

[hoary zodiac]

If you need battery life

Don't get a dgpu

[fresh timber]

i dont plan on it

[hoary zodiac]

Unless it has a mux switch

[fresh timber]

i plan on thunderbolt dock if i need gpu on laptop, which i might honestly do if i get tired of bringing my 2nd pc to my dads

[nocturne flicker]

Which apparently is dead now because they signed off on allowing AI use, gave a very stupid comment regarding why they believe people didn't like AI use, tried to justify it later, then backtracked on it

[fresh timber]

THIS LAPTOP BETTER BE ON SALE WHEN I NED TO BUY A LAPTOP

I LIKE THESE SPECS

16inch, bigger than what i want but.. i like evrything els besides the poop ram config :/ oo well

[hoary zodiac]

Get a used enterprise laptop

[fresh timber]

this is not a 256V

[hoary zodiac]

If you don't need a dgpu

[fresh timber]

non of these laptops im looking at have one

[hoary zodiac]

You might be able to find a decent used enterprise laptop with tb

[fresh timber]

oh. 8c8t

[hoary zodiac]

Mfw no ht

[fresh timber]

all they had to do was give it a few E cores

Its almost identical to my 5500 pc

[hoary zodiac]

It's kinda the core ultra stick

They pulled back on the e cores

[fresh timber]

core ultra, designed to have no hT but makes up with E cores, intel, haha no e cores

[hoary zodiac]

It's a more efficient design

[fresh timber]

that cpu in reality is probably more than enough

i like the 5500 anyways

[hoary zodiac]

Might even outperform the 5500

[fresh timber]

it does. just slightly in its multi core

[hoary zodiac]

Eh

I mean

It's a laptop

[frigid stag]

They definitely do

[fresh timber]

its performance is good

[frigid stag]

E cores are pretty goated

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg74aUQGdSg if i for some reason wanted to game

is these new laptops things thin but no upgradable ram

[hoary zodiac]

Ironically core ultra mobile is the best of intel this gen

[fresh timber]

fr

im fine with that cpu ngl

if i end up needing to run vms for those c lasses i hope not ill just use a desktop

[hoary zodiac]

It's a pretty good chip ye

I mean you have enough for a couple vms

[fresh timber]

its the ram

[hoary zodiac]

Soldered?

[fresh timber]

yeah. unfortunte

[hoary zodiac]

Yikes

[fresh timber]

nothing my desktop cant make up for. i got two rigs with 32gb

[hoary zodiac]

What if you just

Ssh into a vm

[fresh timber]

buy a small ssd or something to install proxmox on a pc for

[hoary zodiac]

On your mas

[fresh timber]

yeah thats what im saying

[fresh timber]

2nd pc, nas too weak for anything intensive rn

i can just spin up hyper v or what ever if needed

[hoary zodiac]

I like how you say weak

[fresh timber]

i have remote desktop on all the time

[hoary zodiac]

Meanwhile my Haswell

[fresh timber]

it struggled to run my mc server

[nocturne flicker]

Haswell has da powah

[hoary zodiac]

Mods?

[fresh timber]

nah normal,. i just had alot of people on loading chunks and that cpu couldnt handel it all

[hoary zodiac]

Ironically Minecraft is be harder to run than a vm

Oh

Yeah that makes sense

[fresh timber]

my 5500.. doesnt care

[hoary zodiac]

You do want good single thread perf for mc

[fresh timber]

ran 400mods, had some problems.. all i did was increase the ram cap and no more issues

[hoary zodiac]

you can oc the hell out of a 4790k and it might run just as well

[fresh timber]

are snapdragon x elite good prob not for what im doing

[hoary zodiac]

depends

are you using linux only?

yes

[fresh timber]

id be using windows anyways

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

I'd stick with x86

[fresh timber]

welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll idk i cant say

i might install bazzite over windows, idk yet

i realised.. im not playing video game on it... i dont need windows

[hoary zodiac]

depends

if you're doing collab documents you might need ms word

[fresh timber]

web erson

[hoary zodiac]

you can do that through web

[fresh timber]

everything is web based

[hoary zodiac]

but office 365 can be quite limited

[fresh timber]

i am NOT logigng into those accoutns on my persoanl device

[hoary zodiac]

generally it's... fine

[fresh timber]

never

[hoary zodiac]

but

you can just get a vm on a nas

and remote desktop

[fresh timber]

excatly

[hoary zodiac]

🤷‍♂️

[fresh timber]

vms

[hoary zodiac]

selfhosting is the solution to everthing these days

[fresh timber]

my internet is stable 99% of the time

when in doubt i remote into girlfriend pc to do it

[lone mango]

4 performance cores

[fresh timber]

is it really 4p 4e?

[lone mango]

Yeah

Kinda brutal ngl

[fresh timber]

what about 8840HS

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[fresh timber]

8840HS is cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

to be fair 4p 4e isn't bad... if you don't use windows

the performance tradeoff isn't really bad for the efficiency

[lone mango]

4c8t

[hoary zodiac]

but windows is a resource hog

[frigid stag]

My laptop was 2p 8e

[lone mango]

So I guess intel might be better

[hoary zodiac]

how does windows like it

[lone mango]

Even with the e cores

[frigid stag]

It works ok but windows 11 is more bloated as usual

[lone mango]

More cores is always better than more threads

[fresh timber]

8840HS has 8 cores

[frigid stag]

Can even run games on it

[fresh timber]

but a better apu irrc

[frigid stag]

Like valorant

That’s about it

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

do you really need an igpu

[fresh timber]

yes i want it

[hoary zodiac]

beside qsv does have its benefits

[lone mango]

Oh it does

The page has lied to me

The preview said 4 cores

[fresh timber]

now we pray.. does this laptop have thunderbolt.... not deal breaker but i would love that

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

this isnt a debate

[hoary zodiac]

holy crap

[lone mango]

Nvm i misread

[hoary zodiac]

the orange text jumpscared me

[fresh timber]

lol

[hoary zodiac]

thought it was userbenchmark for a sec

[nocturne flicker]

Because Google is AI trash that should be banned

[fresh timber]

no im not stupid

im using passmark

[lone mango]

Nah the formatting is weird. I saw #4 as the number of cores but #4 is I guess the line the link preview took from the website

[fresh timber]

is this good res for this size

[lone mango]

Yeah ryzen mobile is good

[hoary zodiac]

yes

you won't notice

[fresh timber]

yaya

[lone mango]

Yea

[fresh timber]

i like clear displays

[hoary zodiac]

1080p is really the best resolution for laptops

[fresh timber]

i dont really need higher res anyways

[hoary zodiac]

I'd go for higher refresh rate over resolution on laptops

[lone mango]

Its 14 inch so its gonna be sharper too

[fresh timber]

60hz, perfect, of course everyone wants 120 but u cant always get what u want can u

[hoary zodiac]

I don't notice the pixels on my 16"

1080p is crisp on my screen size

[fresh timber]

no usb 4.0 or thunderbolt, still good laptop. im aadding it to my list

[lone mango]

They need to get rid of this

Like at least 90 man

[nocturne flicker]

It took the 4 from Zen 4, slapped it in front of # of cpu cores with no punctuation like it is supposed to

[fresh timber]

FR

[hoary zodiac]

I got a 300hz on my gaming laptop

[lone mango]

Or at least 75 since they wanna be stingy

[hoary zodiac]

I look it at 90hz

I used to lock it at 60

[fresh timber]

90hz just for the scroling

[hoary zodiac]

but I wanted to play minecraft for le funny

[fresh timber]

ehh most my laptop will do is school work, watching media, and remote desktop when im really lazy and wanna game on it

[hoary zodiac]

kaby lake

[nocturne flicker]

The amount of issues with that preview is reason enough for Google = bannable trash

[fresh timber]

lol

[lone mango]

Yeah see you have to read it a second time which I did not do

[fresh timber]

buying my self a good real mans laptop

im proud

[hoary zodiac]

my 8250u is 4c/8t

~10 hour battery life

I can limit the power and still have a smooth experience

[lone mango]

I should have spent more on the amd laptop for this reason

[fresh timber]

OH i forgot to see if the lenovo is usbc PD charging

[nocturne flicker]

If you look at the rest of the sections, there is a comma before and after each section. Which they don't do for the 4 and they don't have one after the 8

[hoary zodiac]

most laptops these days should have pd

[fresh timber]

i have a 100w power brick i dont wanna waste

[hoary zodiac]

if they don't

dealbreaker

my laptop doesn't even come with a brick

I charge it with my 65w

[fresh timber]

i have a phone charger thats usbc and lighting at the same time

[lone mango]

But see that first part is all bold

[fresh timber]

unironcily when i get my laptop ill prob install games on it cause im bored and wanna bench mark

[lone mango]

We love misleading

[fresh timber]

laptop pr ices are funny. more e xpensive is worst

[hoary zodiac]

run userbenchmark

[fresh timber]

i ran it before

[lone mango]

Yeah laptops are brutal nowadays

[nocturne flicker]

It reads as if it has 4 cores and 8 threads via multithreading because they don't stick to their section division rules because they are AI using trash

[frigid stag]

You can’t anymore for free

It’s paywalled

[lone mango]

You can have two laptops with the same cpu+gpu and they perform differently

[fresh timber]

if the one im getting has two nvme slots.. you know what id do for the funny?

[lone mango]

Then you have the mobile chip naming

[hoary zodiac]

imaging paying for skewed results

[fresh timber]

id run a GPU On it

[frigid stag]

More like paying to bench your own gpu

[fresh timber]

if i dont get this laptop on sale its like $1000 if i dont have money to get it b then ill just.. go on ebay real quick

[hoary zodiac]

like

just buy 3dmark

[fresh timber]

i keep forgetting.. i can prob use my schollerships to pay for this

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

you get scholarship for tech?

[fresh timber]

they pay for school supplies

[hoary zodiac]

oh yeah

[fresh timber]

a laptop is school supplies

[hoary zodiac]

computers are counted

nice nice

[fresh timber]

they dont need to know i have 3 desktops in my room right now

okay ima wait on laptop until i can see if they will pay for them kek

[hoary zodiac]

see

it's a school laptop

👍

[fresh timber]

a $1000 school laptop

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

different things

[hoary zodiac]

quality education

besides they rip you off with fees

[fresh timber]

i have a schoolership for $1000, another potenital one for $200, and another for $10,000

[hoary zodiac]

I should look for more scholarships

sigh

[fresh timber]

ima try getting the $1000 and $200 one to pay for a laptop

[hoary zodiac]

25% per sem isn't enough

need more money off

[fresh timber]

fr

im full yide essentially

[hoary zodiac]

the hell

was it an academic scholarship?

[lone mango]

I think I get like half off

[fresh timber]

yeah

[fresh timber]

autism

thats why

[hoary zodiac]

oh

man wtf

[lone mango]

So the grant + scholarship is probably like 2/3rds off

[fresh timber]

i get $10k from the state each semester to pay for school.. im also going to try levergeing that one for a laptop

[hoary zodiac]

I guess it's only fair

[nocturne flicker]

I didn't get any scholarships

[fresh timber]

if each schoolership pays $200 for a lapptop thats $600 i dont have to spend

[hoary zodiac]

a seprate laptop without distractions does help your studies

[lone mango]

Grant covers a percentage of your fees, depending on how many credit hours you have, then my scholarship covers the tuition

[hoary zodiac]

it's completely justifible

[nocturne flicker]

My school had a couple of scholarship hounds who had their parents write their scholarship essays

[fresh timber]

*you think im not going to install games and what ever on it? kek

[nocturne flicker]

So they got all of them

[lone mango]

Yeah I think I need to use my laptop more this summer

[hoary zodiac]

I got an auto scholarship

[lone mango]

I gotta lock in this summer

[frigid stag]

Now there’s ai

Does a better job tbh

[hoary zodiac]

no

not really

[fresh timber]

if i get more money than i thought im just going to buy the laptop out right this or next month

[hoary zodiac]

oh

[nocturne flicker]

They had 4, 5, 6 scholarships each

[hoary zodiac]

for scholarship essay

[frigid stag]

I mean I’ve tried it, it sorta works but I wouldn’t rely on it

[hoary zodiac]

ok for that specifically that works

but for uni work

well

[fresh timber]

if i dont get as much as i thought i am going to wait for schoolerships, a laptop would be fun when im chilling

[frigid stag]

Ye for that no

[hoary zodiac]

AI is good for asking questions

[frigid stag]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

but not for doing work

because you're actually just screwing yourself over

[fresh timber]

thats what i use it for, i have it help make what I already wrote better

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

I use it to explain physics

[fresh timber]

i wil never ask chat gpt to out right type my essay for me

thats how you get cought

[lone mango]

But I think I coped pretty well. I chose a class called "microsoft client" where it seems like you just troubleshoot windows.... and chose an intro to linux class, which is not gonna be bad because I use linux every day for the past 4 months, and another class called security policies and procedures, which sounds like it wont be hard

[hoary zodiac]

writing is the one thing I don't use AI for

AI writes in a very interesting way

not very human like

[nocturne flicker]

Heck, the local Wiccan group did a scholarship and they gave it to a random guy instead of literally the one Wiccan in the entire school

[fresh timber]

i keep forgetting i have a 1.7tb NAS and i dont need a large laptop

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

see

go the sigma route

get a $100 kaby lake laptop

[fresh timber]

no

i want something thats still nice

[hoary zodiac]

it is nice

[fresh timber]

i settle for $500

[hoary zodiac]

very smooth experience

non soldered ram

[lone mango]

Im really bouta look up "amd laptop" like an npc

See whats cracked

[fresh timber]

thats litterly how i find laptops

i cant think of a better way

[lone mango]

Yeah because of all the product segments

Find all of them and filter down

[fresh timber]

imagine if nvidia made mobile chips

[lone mango]

Exactly

[hoary zodiac]

I usually do i5-8xxxu

[lone mango]

Soon

[fresh timber]

APU nviida chips

or atleast a DGPU dedicated to efficency

[hoary zodiac]

they probably do for AI users

[lone mango]

At computex they are revealing an arm chip for desktop and mobile

[lone mango]

Probably

[hoary zodiac]

AI people get all the good stuff

[nocturne flicker]

Actually I take it back, I got offered the Excelsior Scholarship

[lone mango]

They already have a little arm system for them

Little mini pc that can do big numbers

[fresh timber]

imagine having a x86 intel cpu and its APU, and a nvidia gpu thats super efficent

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-star-trek-vi-star-trek-the-undiscovered-country-uss-excelsior-sulu-gif-16637834836465049791

[fresh timber]

if i could brin gmy desktop to college i would too

[nocturne flicker]

Excelsior is the NY scholarship program for the poors

[hoary zodiac]

oh

I want a poor scholarship wtf

[fresh timber]

how cursed would it be to setup the desktop in my car, get a big antenna ontop of my car to capture the schools wifi from the parking lot. and use that to remote into my p with low latency

[lone mango]

2025

[nocturne flicker]

Poors being below 100k family income

[fresh timber]

i got denied for poor schollerships

[hoary zodiac]

technically I have no income

[fresh timber]

my parents need to get devorced already man

[hoary zodiac]

neither does my family

[fresh timber]

my mom and dad are NOT toghter but they are married so they get looked at as one income ;/

[hoary zodiac]

devoured?

[fresh timber]

so when I apply for stuff they dont think they shaer a house hold

[fresh timber]

no just seperated

blah blah devorce isnt worth blah blah

IT WORTH WHEN IT MAKES US LOOK POORER

[nocturne flicker]

The scholarship pays full tuition and only tuition at a state college in NY. And then you are required to stay and work in NY for however long it took to get your degree

[frigid stag]

Is it expensive or smthn

[fresh timber]

the damn goverment prob thinks we make $100k a year

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't eat people

[fresh timber]

accroding to my mom yes, and she doesnt feel like changing her last name i bet.. she kept both lastnames.. but removing my dads still is hard

[lone mango]

Woah

8840hs laptop for 600

[frigid stag]

Fair enough

[fresh timber]

yeah

so

cloud

[lone mango]

Oh is this the same one

[fresh timber]

im going 8860hs those systems are just.. cheap

[lone mango]

This also has the 1200p screen

[hoary zodiac]

I want to become a noble just so I could add "von Mecklenburg-Schwerin" or something to my last name

[fresh timber]

8840hs has a 780m in it too...

you know how good those chips are

[hoary zodiac]

I'd settle with Lord Liverpool

[fresh timber]

i could probably push 4k roblox on that bad boy

[lone mango]

Yeah I was thinking this was 800 or something

600 is crazy

[fresh timber]

YEAH

[lone mango]

16 gigs and 1 terabyte

[nocturne flicker]

They may be filing their taxes jointly still

[fresh timber]

laptop depricate so much. i can go on ebay

[lone mango]

Literally good enough for most things

This would be a banger linux laptop

[hoary zodiac]

this is when you find the $100 kaby lake laptop

[fresh timber]

they file seperate, always has, iv had some trouble with them being married tho

its annoying when YOUR FASFA GETS DENIED

[hoary zodiac]

kaby lake is the cheapest 4c/8t on mobile

[fresh timber]

thank god i got fullrides

[hoary zodiac]

just saying

[lone mango]

Fafsa gonna save me fr

I spent 1700 rn

[hoary zodiac]

isn't that the guy from lion king

[fresh timber]

o god

[lone mango]

Fafsa help me

Like rn

[elfin mural]

$100 here gets me haswell

[fresh timber]

cloud used

these laptops are amazing

[hoary zodiac]

oh it's aud

[fresh timber]

i was going to spend $1000 on a vivobook until i found these

[hoary zodiac]

so it's more like $64

[elfin mural]

damn

lol

[lone mango]

The 5 means its a higher end sku of the 8840 series so technically that one is even better

[hoary zodiac]

wait

how much is my nas now

[fresh timber]

YEAH

[lone mango]

Higher boost or something

[fresh timber]

DELL INSPIRON

[lone mango]

Ok guess what

[hoary zodiac]

my upcoming xeon nas is

$74

in USD

[lone mango]

You wanna know how much i got this 2 hour battery life no dedicated gpu laptop for

Like 350

[fresh timber]

i wonder if 8840hs can be found with upgradable ram. im the type to install 64gb ram in my laptop cause its so cheap

[lone mango]

I could spend 100 more and have all day battery life

And 8 real cores

[fresh timber]

when i get my money ill look to see kek

[lone mango]

And a nasty igpu

AND more ram

[elfin mural]

only in gamer laptops afaik

[fresh timber]

framework get cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

Chassis: $50
Xeon E3-1245v5 (4c/8t): $29
2x 4GB RAM + shipping: $8 + 8
SSD: $21
Total AUD $116 == USD $74

[fresh timber]

ok framework is already costing $1000 nvm

[hoary zodiac]

rate my price

[fresh timber]

cheap and prob is faster than my nas

[hoary zodiac]

eh

actually...

it may be in single thread

may not

what cpu is in your nas?

[fresh timber]

your faster

LMFAO

[fresh timber]

2300x

[hoary zodiac]

oh

that's why

zen+ ipc 💀

[fresh timber]

i hav faster single threaded by 5% Tho

[hoary zodiac]

how do you have me beat in single thread

[fresh timber]

realworld. their the same

[fresh timber]

you beat me

[hoary zodiac]

single**

[fresh timber]

oh

well im 4c4t

your 4c8t

[hoary zodiac]

oh wtf

[fresh timber]

your hyperthreadeading is why

[hoary zodiac]

didn't know amd made non ht chips

[fresh timber]

its litterly carrying you

with out it i win

[elfin mural]

higher boost too

in the 2300x

[fresh timber]

did clockspeed matter back then

[hoary zodiac]

for single thread

[fresh timber]

i know it doesnt really matter in 2025 atleast kek

[hoary zodiac]

well

[elfin mural]

for single thread it matters quite a bit

but that's really about it

[hoary zodiac]

clock speeds do matter a lot in single thread

[fresh timber]

damn ryzen cpus running 4.8ghz can beat me 😭 damn you ryzen

why.. do i not care that my pc isnt the fastest wtf

[hoary zodiac]

my cpu is more or less a cheap i7-6700

[fresh timber]

why am i maturing

this is disgusting

[fresh timber]

oh

[elfin mural]

lmao

[hoary zodiac]

the silicon isn't as good so higher tdp

[elfin mural]

ngl looking back

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna limit anyways

[elfin mural]

ryzen wasn't good until zen 2

[fresh timber]

atleast i know what i want now. i cant beat these prices

[hoary zodiac]

zen 2 was the turning point

actually decent IPC

the cores weren't the entire selling point anymore

you got decent cores without the massive IPC drawback

[fresh timber]

wanna know what els i thought of

[elfin mural]

600-700 is great

[fresh timber]

if i want better performance i have a desktop

[hoary zodiac]

kaby lake

exactly

kaby lake

[fresh timber]

no

never

[elfin mural]

a laptop is like

[fresh timber]

i dont mind weak laptop.. just not that weak

[elfin mural]

as much as i game on my gamer laptop

[hoary zodiac]

it's not weak lol

[nocturne flicker]

A lot of the earlier Ryzen 3s were

[fresh timber]

id like to know i can survive if my gaming rig for osme reason explodes

[elfin mural]

i don't recc em unless you absolutely need one

[hoary zodiac]

you underestimate kaby lake

[elfin mural]

i love my tuf, it has good cooling but a laptop is a laptop

[fresh timber]

yeah. I traevl with my gamer desktop if i need it ❤️

[elfin mural]

you're stuck with no upgrades other than ram and ssd

and that sucks but alas

[hoary zodiac]

Foxy

[fresh timber]

i might setup a network at my dads house JUST for game streaming cause their wifi is terrible

[hoary zodiac]

you're the biggest promoter of kaby lake

👏 kaby lake 👏

[fresh timber]

ssd and ram is the only thing i really upgrade in systems now

[elfin mural]

wha

[hoary zodiac]

cheapo work laptop >= expensive work laptop

[nocturne flicker]

And the last time they did any was 4000 series

[hoary zodiac]

need upgrade? just get a new laptop

there will be cheap enterprise laptops forever

[elfin mural]

i can't use skylake

it would be too slow for me

[hoary zodiac]

oh no

not skylake

[fresh timber]

whats its power usage even like

[hoary zodiac]

kaby lake minimum

that's when you get 4c/8t

well

Kaby Lake R

which is 8th gen

[lone mango]

There is a 16 inch for 550

[elfin mural]

if im using a non gaming laptop

i expect battery life

[lone mango]

ebay refurb

[hoary zodiac]

I get 10 hour battery life

I did have to get a new battery tho

[lone mango]

https://ebay.us/m/SYI4WW

[hoary zodiac]

I got my laptop barebones

and then got a new batt and ssd

with the ram I already have

[elfin mural]

too bad one of those things have terrible displays

im spoiled by 100% srgb and eye comfy color temp

[hoary zodiac]

true

[fresh timber]

I don’t miss my old Asus tuf, it burnt my Lap

[hoary zodiac]

We should pay Psi a visit and steal his laptops

[elfin mural]

good screen goes a long way

[fresh timber]

I wanted an oled laptop, but I realize just a decent IPS is good enough for me

[elfin mural]

my eyes don't get fatigued

and it's just ips also

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

a good panel is def worth the money

especially as a work laptop

[elfin mural]

i used to get headaches out of nowhere lol

on my old laptop

but now it's gone

[hoary zodiac]

wait is why I get headaches

that's also why I want a monitor

[fresh timber]

Fr

[hoary zodiac]

sadly I'm too broke

I say that after I spend $110 on a nas

[fresh timber]

I have monitors anywhere I go

[elfin mural]

oled is nice but a good ips is all one should experience

[hoary zodiac]

actually it's because of the nas that I'm broke

[fresh timber]

I would deadass bring a portable usbc display to school with me kek

[hoary zodiac]

do it

I used to do it

[elfin mural]

i like deep blacks oled offers but

when i game it matters none lmao

[hoary zodiac]

should I try 300hz

my laptop display can go that high

[elfin mural]

on your strix?

[hoary zodiac]

ye

[elfin mural]

i mean, why not

[hoary zodiac]

I should probably download csgo

[elfin mural]

300hz on a laptop always just breaks my brain

[hoary zodiac]

yeah it's stupid

why is it 300hz

[fresh timber]

I might, I suffer with a single display

[hoary zodiac]

I use workspaces now

even that is annoying

having a tiling window manager makes it a lot easier

still very annoying to use one display

that's why I watch lectures at home

I have more desk space

and more screen real estate

POG

[lone mango]

Yes its happening finally

[lone mango]

Will it even work tho

[hoary zodiac]

southbridge

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-obi-wan-now-thats-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-along-time-gif-11814407

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

yooo I could buy a rack mount

[lone mango]

Halfway done already

I would be done by now if nvme

But this is fast enough

[hoary zodiac]

ooooooooo

[lone mango]

Lil guy

[fresh timber]

Ugh

[lone mango]

And we are done now

[fresh timber]

I need to debate windows or Linux

[hoary zodiac]

you have two linux users in chat

[lone mango]

Well you know what we gonna say

[fresh timber]

Linux

[hoary zodiac]

very biased demographic here

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

Atleast im not Linux dumb

I can daily Linux no problem, on a laptop it’s easy peasy

[hoary zodiac]

use a tiling window manager

great for productivity

[fresh timber]

I know what OS I’m using

[lone mango]

Yeah you wont do anything nutty on the laptop since you are segmenting it from your desktops

[hoary zodiac]

debian minimal

[lone mango]

School assignments and vms

[fresh timber]

https://bazzite.gg in getting this minus steam os part

I loved its desktop mode

[hoary zodiac]

you should use hatsune miku os

[fresh timber]

Lolll

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

With Linux you don’t stalk your ram usage atleast

16gb will magically become plenty even for VMs

[hoary zodiac]

post neofetch

I should go into a linux discord

ask for their neofetch and then leave

[fresh timber]

I will enable ssh on my laptop

I’ll connect to it from my desktop for Neo fetch

[hoary zodiac]

you can winfetch

[fresh timber]

Did you notice better battery life

[hoary zodiac]

for what

[fresh timber]

Linux seems lighter

[hoary zodiac]

ofc the battery life is better

[fresh timber]

So better battery

[hoary zodiac]

you do have to configure it

[fresh timber]

Can you cap battery at 80% on Linux

[hoary zodiac]

not sure

[lone mango]

I think mine is slightly better yes

[lone mango]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

depends on the laptop

[fresh timber]

If you can I’m in

[lone mango]

I can with kde at least

[fresh timber]

I always cap my laptop at 80%

[hoary zodiac]

I don't because uni reasons

I can just get a battery

[fresh timber]

I can just plug It in

[lone mango]

Windows lets you do this?

[hoary zodiac]

parts for enterprise stuff is cheap

[fresh timber]

Yes

[lone mango]

How did I not know

[hoary zodiac]

I use ghelper

[lone mango]

Bruh

[hoary zodiac]

to cap my battery on windows

[fresh timber]

It’s goated

I like helper

[lone mango]

Oh its an app

[hoary zodiac]

it's armoury crate replacement

[lone mango]

I thought they natively let you do it

[fresh timber]

I would cap my battery to 80% unless I knew I needed the entire battery the next day

[hoary zodiac]

Ironically I can cap and have enough

[lone mango]

Well on kde its native

[fresh timber]

For me to cap Linux it has to be easy

[hoary zodiac]

the only times where I run into battery issues is when I forget to turn down the brightness

[hoary zodiac]

again depends on laptop and os

[fresh timber]

If I’m maiming Linux desktop I don’t wanna have to remember a command to do it

[fresh timber]

Fedora

Idk laptop yet

[hoary zodiac]

depends on your DE

you might have to install something

or it might come with the DE

[fresh timber]

I’m leaning twords the Lenovo laptops with that 8840hs

They cheap

[hoary zodiac]

Cloud

you know what DE stands for?

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/live-reaction-rhino-warframe-reapercord-kings-dark-tidings-saga-by-kel-kade-gif-27294051

Digital extremes

Desktop environment

[hoary zodiac]

DEez nuts

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/live-reaction-rhino-warframe-reapercord-kings-dark-tidings-saga-by-kel-kade-gif-27294051

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna get sore'd one day

[lone mango]

Well

You dont spam it

So this is acceptable

[hoary zodiac]

why is the 4570T 2c/4t

[hoary zodiac]

thank god I have a 4590T

[fresh timber]

Yup I’m running Linux on my laptop

[hoary zodiac]

KDE moment

KDE is goated

[lone mango]

Ight bruh

No way this is accurate

73%?

Dude this was 80% when I checked two times ago

[hoary zodiac]

the readings can be sus

[lone mango]

Went from 80 to 77 to 73

[hoary zodiac]

it's an estimate

[dense locust]

nice test os y'all got when you gunna install your real os?

[lone mango]

This must be fake

[lone mango]

Then this estimate is quite far off

[hoary zodiac]

could be due to power profiles too

something is causing it

why are mini pcs so expensive

[lone mango]

Been like two months so far I should change the wallpaper

[hoary zodiac]

I just want something to use my spare ddr3 in

[lone mango]

Lets do something blasphemous and put the windows 11 wallpapers on here

[hoary zodiac]

make it look like windows ui

see how long until someone notices that it's linux

[lone mango]

AnduinOS

But its glowing

Made by microsoft employee on his free time using ubuntu

[hoary zodiac]

why

are skylake mini pcs

cheaper than haswell

[lone mango]

Actually its shining even

Blinding

Ok so rockstar cant scan my red dead 2 installation

I feared this would happen

Nobody will know

[elfin mural]

funny POS computer cpu

[lone mango]

Lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

what happens in fight club stays in fight club

[elfin mural]

no, i mean it

it's used in cashier pc

[hoary zodiac]

WHAT

AHAHAHAH

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

it's a disgrace to i5s

that a desktop chip has 2c/4t

like if it was mobile sure

but desktop haswell?

I could've gotten scammed

[elfin mural]

especially the 4570te

e for emdedded

but it's the same thing as 4570t

[hoary zodiac]

I just want a cheap mini pc

apparently they don't exist

one that takes ddr3 that is

[elfin mural]

found in these crappy things

[hoary zodiac]

what is that display

💀

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

is that

windows vista

[elfin mural]

no

some sort of custom shop ui

probably based on windows lol

[hoary zodiac]

they're always based on windows

for some god forsaken reason

[elfin mural]

because windows is the industry standard obviously

(until it bsods)

[hoary zodiac]

mfw crowdstrike

[dense locust]

all the terminals i have ever used run on windows

[elfin mural]

industry standard doesn't mean good

so all the terminals literally run windows

[dense locust]

linux doesnt mean good

[elfin mural]

i mean true

it's just funny that windows is universal

[dense locust]

prob because the software was always just written for it

[elfin mural]

a lot of em still runs windows 7

[dense locust]

moving to linux at this point would just be an unnecessary expense

[lone mango]

Could I just keep my laptop battery plugged in at 80% all the time

Never capped battery before

[elfin mural]

yes

it works well

2 years in and im maintaining 80% capacity

or more

i haven't checked precisely

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how much it'll cost to migrate those machines to arm

[lone mango]

Interesting

So I can have the laptop running with my mc server nonstop

[elfin mural]

any cost is a nope to shops and companies

they'd rather spend the least on IT

[hoary zodiac]

the power fees do rack up

they probably don't consider that tbh

[elfin mural]

but do they consider that?

they probably don't even know the benefits lol

windows on arm is already a thing and it's ok now

with cough adobe not being supported

[hoary zodiac]

yeah arm is way more efficient

[elfin mural]

on an unrelated note

vmware is now threatening perpetual license holders

with cease and desist emails

[hoary zodiac]

wait

usffs are a thing

[hoary zodiac]

huh

not so perpetual

[lone mango]

Virtual machine manager be like

[elfin mural]

sounds just like adobe doesn't it

[hoary zodiac]

meanwhile virt manager is free

proxmox is free

I don't get why they'd do that

[elfin mural]

after broadcom bought vmware