#general-chat

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fresh timber
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i dont need better cpu anyways

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ever sense i went 1440p my gpu has been sluggish to me

lone mango
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Idk I looked too much into zen 6 and got kinda hype

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I may get it...

fresh timber
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next year

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wait no this year

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right

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no ne xt

lone mango
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Yeah seems like the plan is next year

fresh timber
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ill take a zen 6 x3d chip

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or go 9800x3d on a discout kek

lone mango
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x3d cpus are still fresh, zen 6 coming out would just wipe those out pieskull pieskull pieskull

fresh timber
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depending on my money ill go all out on platform with a non x3d until the x3d releases kek hell i might even go for a used 7800x3d to hold me out

lone mango
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I spent 600 and now zen 6 came out

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Fellas am I cooked

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Type posts appearing

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Goes hard

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I forgot this is 1440p nvm

fresh timber
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laughs in fastre cpu

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i spent less 👅

royal crow
lone mango
fresh timber
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lmfao

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honeslty id go for a 7950x3d

acoustic palm
lone mango
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The default window when turning off fullscreen is 480p

fresh timber
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how mcuh fps u get

lone mango
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Small window

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20

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On the tiny window I get 35

fresh timber
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my laptop from like 2015 with some crappy chil does better

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my rooms hot asf fan time

dusk knot
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Hm

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Open windows

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Too

lone mango
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100 fps 1080p with an ultra light shader

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My intel laptop is in the 70s

cursive oasis
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Hey, what's better? An rx 580, or a gtx 970?

tranquil pebble
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Might be getting laptop with a 13th gen i7, RTX 4060, 16 GB of RAM for $300. There is a major caveat though... it has a history of cola being dumped on it... but it still functions. The person selling it to me is someone I know and is also going to clean it up and allow me to stress test it and stuff.

lone mango
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I think the 970 was around a 1060, which is also what the rx 580 is around

upper rain
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980 = 1060, 980 ti = 1070. bar vram differences ofc

lone mango
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Rx 580 then

tranquil pebble
lone mango
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Especially if 8 gig

upper rain
cursive oasis
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OK bet, thanks

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I got a 970 from a friend, and my brother has a 580 so I was gonna replace it with that if it was better

upper rain
cursive oasis
frigid stag
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Maybe at launch they were the same

upper rain
frigid stag
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Difference started being noticeable a few months after

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And 970 is like 3.5gb vram

lone mango
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I think polaris got better over time too

upper rain
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it did, yes

lone mango
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Really anything from 2016 to 17 was great

upper rain
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polaris, maxwell, pascal, even RDNA 1 to an extent were all excellent generations

lone mango
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True rdna aged pretty well

frigid stag
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Rdna 1 was complete garbage

upper rain
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Turing sort of got the ball rolling as far as massively anticonsumer practices go. but then, it was also the start of Nvidia's shift away from gaming, so perhaps it's not so much anticonsumer as it is anti our specific type of consumer and very much pro professional/datacenter/enterprise/etc.

lone mango
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Pretty bad start but they worked it out and now the 4th iteration is one of the best arches

frigid stag
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Expensive paper weight with unusable drivers. Some of them still are in a way since they were hardware flaws

upper rain
# frigid stag Rdna 1 was complete garbage

selling Navi 21 A0 silicon was an enormous mistake, but if you didn't purchase at launch you got revised silicon, and drivers were sorted pretty quickly. not so much for the A0 cards though, which is where a lot of those persistent issues with drivers come from that generation

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a small minority with basically defective GPUs that drivers could never totally fix for the longest time

frigid stag
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It took over a year

upper rain
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sorry not 21 that's rx 6000 lol. what is it, navi 11?

frigid stag
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I know someone who had a “few” of them. The issues are more common than people thought

worthy meteor
frigid stag
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Don’t ask why he had so many kekw

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There was money to be made at the time from them

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The hardware wasn’t good either

cursive oasis
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Anyone know any good, cheap 120mm fans

frigid stag
upper rain
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hmm interesting. i was a filthy turing user at the time, so perhaps that informed my comparatively more positive perception of Navi 1. lack of hands on time does tend to smooth out both the highs and lows

frigid stag
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Or p12 max

upper rain
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^

tranquil pebble
frigid stag
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“We heard you like Radeon vii so we made it cheaper and different”

rancid juniper
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Honestly if you got $150 to spend, an RX 5700 XT is a good buy

upper rain
frigid stag
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Mining

upper rain
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yep

rancid juniper
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^

frigid stag
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That’s why the guy I know had so many

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He had like 30 cards

upper rain
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they were ridiculously efficient for what they were

tranquil pebble
rancid juniper
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The gpu mining craze is way worse than what were dealing with now imo

worthy meteor
tranquil pebble
upper rain
acoustic palm
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We add on another crypt mining craze to our current shortage

rancid juniper
acoustic palm
rancid juniper
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hm

worthy meteor
nocturne flicker
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The only people making money on crypto right now are people in government using it as a tool to pump and dump their preferred coins derpyBlob

tranquil pebble
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usd is now a cryptocurrency

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if that ever happened, I will flee to Canada

rancid juniper
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actually curious on how HBM cards fared on Mining

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were they faster?

frigid stag
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Pretty good

upper rain
acoustic palm
rancid juniper
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i see

worthy meteor
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remember when UST was supposed to be a stablecoin pegged to the dollar

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and now it's worth like a cent

rancid juniper
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L

pliant berry
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is it still that low?

worthy meteor
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0.013 rn

upper rain
worthy meteor
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used to be even lower I think

pliant berry
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damn

acoustic palm
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No way I’m actually positive on my investment again

upper rain
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lol

nocturne flicker
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Crypto has no real value. It is a speculative asset that varies in value based on market sentiment and the actions of big asset holders. That is it. USD may be jumping into the toilet right now, but it atleast has something tangible driving that value

upper rain
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wait until you hear about fiat currency

frigid stag
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That is in itself real value

upper rain
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literally everything is fake

worthy meteor
frigid stag
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YE

worthy meteor
nocturne flicker
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USD is Fiat. Its value is determined by trust in the issuing government, its widespread use and the US economy

pliant berry
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im only interested in crypto as a more open alternative to traditional banking

rancid juniper
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wasn't vega 64 regarded as the hottest, most power hungry gpus they made?

worthy meteor
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hey 295x2 existed

upper rain
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president makes a tweet and 2t gets wiped out of the stock markets... yeah totally real guys. everything is fake and it's funny to me when people pretend otherwise

worthy meteor
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but it wasn't mainstream

rancid juniper
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oh

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lol

frigid stag
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6900xt with mpt on is no joke either

nocturne flicker
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The stock market has no bearing on the exchange rates and value of US currency

rancid juniper
worthy meteor
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usd is down single digit % wise in exchange rates iirc

frigid stag
upper rain
frigid stag
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The economy is centred around people

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That’s nothing new

rancid juniper
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this is true oc

upper rain
nocturne flicker
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Okay. So crypto is more fake than the mainstream, normal fake stuff

upper rain
frigid stag
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Those used to be just the means of trading

worthy meteor
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we were very close to being on a silver standard

upper rain
primal kettle
frigid stag
fresh timber
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goose

frigid stag
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Pretty sure 500w is the limit on those connectors

fresh timber
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what do i do with my corsair ram, its only worth $30 so im keeping it

upper rain
rancid juniper
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820w 2080ti sounds mental

frigid stag
fresh timber
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CHEAP pc

worthy meteor
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iirc it's 450w before 8 pin melts

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design is 150w

upper rain
fresh timber
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its designed for 150w but people are pulling more 🤔

nocturne flicker
rancid juniper
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kinda impressed

worthy meteor
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before physically melting yea

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there's a video of someone doing it

primal kettle
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Can't you just undervolt an XT and get better performance than a 5080?

frigid stag
fresh timber
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so what im hearing is, people are running their gpus past the spec of the cables which mean its technicly a firehazard so their invalid

upper rain
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bruh i cannot with this filter

rancid juniper
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then Nvidia's new power connectors doesn't make sense whatsoever

frigid stag
upper rain
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i don't even swear a lot

rancid juniper
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just propreitary slop

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smh

frigid stag
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Undervolting just reduces the power draw/ voltage

lone mango
acoustic palm
upper rain
fresh timber
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im ngl i dont trust that

frigid stag
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The limit on 3 pins is like 500w

worthy meteor
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but just as a reminder, you can draw a LOT more from PCIe

fresh timber
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spec is 150w, ur pulling 400 between them kek

primal kettle
worthy meteor
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remember like 150w through the pcie slot on like 470s iirc

primal kettle
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somehow

rancid juniper
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Undervolting in RDNA 3 and above is just giving more thermal headroom so it can boost higher

fresh timber
worthy meteor
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spec is 75w

frigid stag
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I didn’t think of that

lone mango
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Lowering the voltage makes it boost higher

upper rain
rancid juniper
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(tho it can bring cooler temps but power is still high depending on boost clocks)

worthy meteor
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yea uv on rdna 4 is different from ampere and co

upper rain
rancid juniper
frigid stag
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I just always lock clocks

worthy meteor
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I draw more power trying to uv my 9070xt lol

nocturne flicker
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The difference is that actual fiat currency has a centralized authority saying it is capable of being used to pay taxes, do business and that the value is set by a variety of factors controlled by normal, traditional forces

frigid stag
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It’s consistent that way

fresh timber
worthy meteor
rancid juniper
worthy meteor
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it was mainly an issue with multi GPU iirc

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back when people still used crossfire

upper rain
fresh timber
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can u show

rancid juniper
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Sli and crossfire never took off, quite a shame

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but now im glad it didn't

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these damn bricks are too power hungry

upper rain
worthy meteor
fresh timber
upper rain
frigid stag
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If it was a truly good psu it would have had enough power 🗿

fresh timber
rancid juniper
frigid stag
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Ax1600i the goat

fresh timber
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gooser

upper rain
fresh timber
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play goose scam

frigid stag
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What’s that

rancid juniper
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people who say underclocking + undervolting = undervolt is not an undervolt

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afaik ive seen posts like this for RDNA 3

frigid stag
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Undervolt can technically be called an “overclock”

lone mango
frigid stag
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Actually idk about that

lone mango
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It seems you have to bring clocks down or limit them

fresh timber
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i run th is

rancid juniper
lone mango
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Or turn down the power limit a little bit

rancid juniper
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or same clocks

upper rain
frigid stag
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Running it at lower voltage than stock though

lone mango
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Either way, you have to apply some other kind of constraint

lone mango
rancid juniper
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RDNA 3's stock voltage was bs tho

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power hungry af + low clocks

fresh timber
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give me a 9070xt already

upper rain
rancid juniper
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you're fine with a 7700xt dude

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lol

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just wait it out longer

fresh timber
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NO

rancid juniper
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mmm 2-3 gens later

fresh timber
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7700xt sucks

upper rain
fresh timber
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it must reach this

rancid juniper
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(have a soft spot for owning a 6700xt once)

upper rain
fresh timber
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rdna2 is nice

upper rain
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my 6800 for example could max out the sliders if i fed it a little more voltage... but the sliders capped out at 2800mhz

rancid juniper
fresh timber
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rx6600 is a very good 1440p gpu

lone mango
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My 6700 xt went from 186 to like 140 maximum while losing like 3% perf

rancid juniper
upper rain
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which was so stupid because if i can hit the limit then obviously the limit is not high enough lol

rancid juniper
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unless you're playing super light games

lone mango
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If it wasnt power limited at 186 it would do more

fresh timber
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1440p gpu

lone mango
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You can do it with a 6600 but you need to put fsr on everything

upper rain
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what clock speeds does your 2080 ti hit? i have a 1060 i'm in the process of modding... maybe i can beat your 2080 ti again just to rub salt in the wound lmfao

rancid juniper
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you could run minecraft at 4k and still get over 60fps on a 6600xt

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cmon

fresh timber
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calling a gpu capable of a certin res isnt very helpful when people dont play the new slop

lone mango
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I did 1440p helldivers with a 6600

fresh timber
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it doesnt run well unless upscaling

lone mango
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Yeah

fresh timber
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my 7700xt does alright with my settings, 90fps

lone mango
fresh timber
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playable

upper rain
rancid juniper
fresh timber
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im happy im not too much of a stickler

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pretty game

frigid stag
lone mango
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I think it was at balanced

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Resolution went up, upscaling went down one tick

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Or two

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I think balanced is 2

upper rain
rancid juniper
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i got an RX 570 8GB sitting here, i wonder if i should chase scores with it

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just some XFX model tho

frigid stag
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I’ve done 2170 but that’s about it. Never tried any higher

upper rain
frigid stag
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It’s already on the verge

rancid juniper
fresh timber
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it looks bad when i upscale to 4k on my rx6600

fresh timber
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yes i run 4k on my rx6600 sometimes

lone mango
fresh timber
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rx6600 is a 4k gpu

lone mango
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It is something akin to tsr I think

rancid juniper
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run roblox at 4k and watch it choke

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💀

upper rain
frigid stag
fresh timber
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minecraft at 4k

rancid juniper
fresh timber
rancid juniper
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really?

fresh timber
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yeah

lone mango
rancid juniper
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one second

fresh timber
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if iv had better luck on older hardware running roblox than with minecraft

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now roblox fps sucks but i can get it to run on lower end hardware more easily

lone mango
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So I was running 1440p on a 1080p monitor, with the native resolution at half of that

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Boy what the hell boy

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But this was before I got the 6700 xt

rancid juniper
lone mango
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I was just curious on what frame rates I would get if I got a 1440p montior before the 6700 xt

fresh timber
lone mango
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But I saw a banger deal and got the 6700 xt at 250 and then got the monitor later

fresh timber
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h yeah

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im stupid

rancid juniper
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lol

fresh timber
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LETS DO THIS

lone mango
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I think the guy selling it did not take advantage of the current market. He sold it at its true, uninflated price

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Truly a bro

fresh timber
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i cant get a fps reading from amd

rancid juniper
fresh timber
lone mango
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Control shift o

rancid juniper
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enable metric overlay

fresh timber
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doesnt work

tranquil pebble
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0.1k ultra low definition

rancid juniper
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if that doesn't work use Win + G then click performance

lone mango
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Wait whats going on

rancid juniper
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it will show u perf metrics

fresh timber
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i dont have gamebar installed

rancid juniper
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bruh

lone mango
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Are you playing a game through rdp or something

fresh timber
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u can say that

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what windows verson do u think i run kek

lone mango
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Turn on overlay on the pc that is being remoted into

fresh timber
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O IM SMART

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what do u think i did

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ima just use freesync to show fps

frigid stag
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How much did u pay for ltsc kekw

lone mango
frigid stag
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Ah

lone mango
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Mass Gravel

fresh timber
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now i get fps from the game

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im smart

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@rancid juniper 100fps

rancid juniper
fresh timber
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ugh

rancid juniper
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heheh

fresh timber
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i f ixed it, its just a 1440p stream

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the game it self is 4k

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why does roblox scale sensativity with the damn resolution

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pulling 60fps

rancid juniper
fresh timber
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ima go shower, and get rid of the heat in my room

rancid juniper
acoustic palm
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And ima go be depressed again

fresh timber
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i just put my fan next to my desk kek

tranquil pebble
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Microsoft bloatware can go die in a fire

fresh timber
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fr

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people in the microsft discord pretend its fine kek

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blah blah normal consumerss blah blah, and thats why they add that bull poop

proud jackal
tranquil pebble
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probably because any other opinion would be "trolling"

fresh timber
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yup

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its funny

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they ban all forms of debloating

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but ur more than welcome to flip up ur linux install

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a dude got muted cause they helpled me disable auto updates permently kek

tranquil pebble
fresh timber
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i wanted to disable updates cause i use a rig as a server and dont want it turning off when i dont tell it to

sinful blade
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Someone take my 5700g

fresh timber
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id tradein my 13600kf

proud jackal
fresh timber
tranquil pebble
fresh timber
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they defend so much sillyness in that server

rancid juniper
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count me in

upper rain
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what's wrong with it? i thought just pins

misty sparrow
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i wonder how much better 9700x is compared to the 7700

upper rain
tranquil pebble
upper rain
fresh timber
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unironicly if i gave my grandparents linux their computes would have NO issues, why? cause linux typicly doesnt get updates that brick it

tranquil pebble
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also tfw someone says they will never use Linux... but then games on a Steam Deck

upper rain
fresh timber
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also in the mc server they say you should factor in a windows key from microsoft kek no thank you

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i have three pcs that i could a ctivatee "legally" and it would cost me $600

tranquil pebble
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I would rather activate Linux

fresh timber
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i did the math

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im not spending $600 on computers that cost less than that

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my 2nd rig and nas probably cost $600 toghter

upper rain
fresh timber
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legally its not

upper rain
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i mean it is

fresh timber
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no its not

upper rain
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you literally just run some commands in the terminal

fresh timber
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thats illegal

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techncily

upper rain
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...

fresh timber
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u cannot disagree

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read their tos

pliant berry
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technically we are not allowed to discuss such methods here

fresh timber
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u have to buy a key

upper rain
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i don't but okay

fresh timber
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yes u do

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you legally do

tranquil pebble
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my favorite method is to use Linux wherever possible

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100% legal

fresh timber
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if i didnt play anticheat games i would swap to linux so f ast

misty sparrow
tranquil pebble
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AFAIK even Microsoft uses Linux internally

fresh timber
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yeah its funny

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why dont you use ur own opperating system microsoft

tranquil pebble
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maybe because it kinda sucks as a server

sinful blade
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It’s still dead

fresh timber
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the SECOND somebody gets fortnite working on linux im swapping

upper rain
tranquil pebble
misty sparrow
fresh timber
fresh timber
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JUST ENABLE FORTNITE IN UR ANTICHEAT

misty sparrow
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what a long time it took for them to get it back

fresh timber
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EASY ANTICHEAT SUPPORTS LINUX

lone mango
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No dude linux gamers are cheaters and they share a bunch of code to make cheats man

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Bro we are all cheaters dude

nocturne flicker
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Why you have to caps lock

fresh timber
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how much in RND will it really cost epic to enable it.. unless they did some stupud stupid custom easy anticheat that makes it difficult

misty sparrow
lone mango
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WE SAVED DORRETA!!!

fresh timber
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i dont need it, i dont need it

lone mango
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Correct you dont

fresh timber
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i think i need it

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why did good psu price sincrease so much 😦

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im only upgrading my main pcs psu so i can pass it to my server with a "broken" one

lone mango
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Does anyone have deep rock galactic

fresh timber
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i can if its cheap

lone mango
fresh timber
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yeah

misty sparrow
lone mango
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Rdna 4 quite literally popped off

fresh timber
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ill still. pay the price

misty sparrow
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never hooked me

fresh timber
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id l ove a corsair psu in my rig

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heart me ahear me out, 14900k+9070xt

primal kettle
fresh timber
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how

primal kettle
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me when companies add an "anti-cheat" to pretend they're doing something about cheaters

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I hate Tim Sweeney

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He'll never let it run on Linux in any way

fresh timber
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fr

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FR

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i only play fortnite when my friend tell me to get on

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i dont wanna go, oh yeah i cant run fortnite btw

primal kettle
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Yeah

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Apex used to run on Linux, not anymore

fresh timber
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i can cope with no roblox, ill just rdp into my windows pc.. fortnite when i need responsetime? hell no

primal kettle
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Because there are "too many people cheating on Linux"

misty sparrow
primal kettle
fresh timber
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fr

primal kettle
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It wasn't even too many cheaters, it was "too easy to cheat"

fresh timber
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let proton do it for you

primal kettle
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You can compile to Linux

fresh timber
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nobody develops cheating software for linux anywysa

primal kettle
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You don't need Proton

fresh timber
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hell people dont even cheat on the pc their playing the game on kek they have a 2nd pc running it

worn wave
primal kettle
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Yeah

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But EAC is comedically easy to get around

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And BattlEye is a joke

cursive oasis
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Hey I just wanna make sure, should I put the ram in the 1st and 3rd slot?

fresh timber
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sounds like 2nd and 4th to me

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sometimes i wanna buy the same ram kit again and run 64gb 4000mt/s

primal kettle
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Upscaling and AI frame gen is diabolical

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No thanks Adrenalin

fresh timber
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yuh

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wtf

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lmfao somebody bought that domain

upper rain
fresh timber
fresh timber
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not in my current rig tho

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its a 3200 kit that @idle nexus helped me ge to 4000mt/s "stable" stable until i did some random test

upper rain
primal kettle
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It's using it in something that runs on potatoes

fresh timber
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rev e is SOOO EASy to c

upper rain
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no, i'm the poor man in this situation kekw

fresh timber
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i have b die

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its just poopy bdie

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its in my 2nd rig

primal kettle
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There's literally no performance difference but everything looks so much better 💀

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Very amazing preset AMD

fresh timber
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my ddr4 beats alot of ddr5 just cause its tuned kek

upper rain
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too end DDR3 is wicked fast. better than some Jedec DDR4 in clockspeed and wildly tighter timings. DDR3 era was goated too

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could get a 2600k or smth and have it run everything for like a decade

fresh timber
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yall think ddr6 will be easy to oc

dense locust
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Let’s first get to the point where ddr5 is easy to oc

upper rain
proud jackal
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I need serotonin

upper rain
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boot times are the biggest bottleneck imo. the platform is brutal, but it would be less so if it didn't take a whole minute to swap settings

proud jackal
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Do I buy 5090

sinful blade
misty sparrow
pliant berry
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you mean do you buy me a 5090 right?

proud jackal
dense locust
misty sparrow
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I can dream

fresh timber
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man my rooms so hot

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gaming is intensive

pliant berry
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hey idols aren't allowed to carry weapons

misty sparrow
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affordable space heating

rancid juniper
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real

dense locust
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Affordable?

fresh timber
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i dont need spaceheating when my room is atleast 10-15 degrees hottre than the rest of the house kek

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im sweating

dense locust
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Ac unit time

fresh timber
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nah

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cost too much

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ima buy more fans kek

dense locust
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💀

upper rain
fresh timber
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When should I buy ddr5

upper rain
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it's just that fortunately the limits in place are high enough in most cases that it's irrelevant

fresh timber
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Zen 6?

misty sparrow
# dense locust

that delivery driver's probably getting the first class treatment (AC in delivery vehicle)

upper rain
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i do wonder if it will be more of an issue with future generatiins

upper rain
worthy meteor
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Yes

upper rain
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cringe. one more reason to hate corsair memory i guess

worthy meteor
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Corsair locks pmic voltages and basically no one else does

dense locust
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I year the memory controller on am5 is pretty bad

upper rain
rancid juniper
upper rain
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not that arrow lake is even really relevant at all lmfao

upper rain
dense locust
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Or is that not the only bottleneck

upper rain
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so idk what the plan is any more at this point

dense locust
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Who knows maybe they’ll release next gen and smoke amd and we would never expect it

frigid stag
upper rain
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they really need to majorly overhaul their core architecture imo, but they killed that project too lmfao

rancid juniper
upper rain
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their cores are HUGE and it makes it hard to compete. AMD's whole strategy is selling tiny efficient cores that take up next to 0 die area so that they can win on margin without losing much performance

frigid stag
upper rain
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and at a certain point if your starting point is so much better, your gains snowball

upper rain
# frigid stag Hyperthreading off is better but it should be an option imo

HT off has very limited benefits on architectures that support it, overall having the extra multithreaded performance matters more to me. if the architecture was such that the second thread wasn't needed and the core was simply running FULL tilt all the time, then i would agree. but that was what HT-next was meant to be, not what we have. and they killed HT-next

frigid stag
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Hyperthreading is a band aid fix for not having enough cores

dense locust
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Anyways even if ddr6 releases it won’t release on amd until am6

frigid stag
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For gaming turning it off increases performance

dense locust
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Just add more cache

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Problem solved

misty sparrow
#

is ddr6 even necessary

frigid stag
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L4 cache and send amd to the caveman ages

upper rain
upper rain
frigid stag
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I don’t know but they have done it before

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Like 9 years ago

upper rain
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the L4 on broadwell was just on package dram, which we have with Lunar Lake i believe?

dense locust
upper rain
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adamantine was a proper l4 solution

frigid stag
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Which one is lunar lake

upper rain
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and afaik it's dead

upper rain
frigid stag
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Oh

upper rain
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it's in some laptops

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very efficient

dense locust
#

Intel should work on a 3D vcache competitor

fresh timber
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Next gen Intel will be very good I suspect

fresh timber
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While being a good gamer

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I don’t think they will be the best, but be very compelling

frigid stag
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I want the 149KF but the i7s are so cheap it’s hard to go for the i9

upper rain
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chiplets are cool, but intel seems not to understand why you do chiplets... they cost performance, they make up for it with parallization and better cost optimized architectures so you can throw more stuff on the package. intel seems to just want to use 30 different bleeding edge nodes to perform worse than raptor lake...

nocturne flicker
fresh timber
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If Intel did chiplets imagine how many P cores you could get

frigid stag
fresh timber
#

Imagine 12p 16E

upper rain
frigid stag
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It’s a weird hybrid architecture

dense locust
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Isnt cache slower as the number gets higher

upper rain
dense locust
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I mean it’s still probably magnitudes faster than ram but still

frigid stag
#

That’s huge

upper rain
#

that's good

frigid stag
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And it works on your 3 generations old motherboard

fresh timber
frigid stag
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Yeah 12 p cores lga1700

fresh timber
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im ngl i might buy a 12p core amd chip

fresh timber
frigid stag
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No e cores though

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Yea

fresh timber
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i want

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I WANT

upper rain
# dense locust Isnt cache slower as the number gets higher

yeah. intel's l4 implementations have basically just been ultra low latency on-package dram tho. Adamantine was meant to be an active interposer/cache layer that could scale up to gigabytes of usable l4 cache, but intel cancelled it soooooooo. idk what's up anymore because to my knowledge that was supposed to be their Vcache alternative

rancid juniper
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Kinda wish Intel experimented for once and kept LGA 1700 alive a bit longer

fresh timber
#

they could have kept it

rancid juniper
#

LGA 1851 is stupidly short lived

fresh timber
#

lga1700 could have had the new chips easilly i bet

frigid stag
#

It’s getting another generation

dense locust
#

Intel try not to move to a new socket every 1 generation challenge

upper rain
royal crow
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And like why did they abandon the thing they had

lone mango
#

Arrow lake now is actually not that bad at all

fresh timber
#

if intel just came up with a way to give cpus more cache to compete with AMD they could win, Intel doesnt have the ccd latency issue AMD has

lone mango
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Especially after all the cope updates

upper rain
lone mango
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Most recent one was them increasing their memory controller clocks

royal crow
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They had the fastest cpus and now, well, they have ai

fresh timber
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frigid stag
dense locust
#

intel still has majority marketshare

lone mango
rancid juniper
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I like how instead of tackling the high power problem 13/14th gen had. All they did was kill off hyper threading as a whole and saying "there, that fixed it!"

fresh timber
lone mango
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It is not slow anymore

rancid juniper
#

Intel is mad goofy

frigid stag
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There’s been a ton of bios updates by now

upper rain
frigid stag
#

It’s probably closer to 14 gen now

fresh timber
#

core ultra is good for editing

rancid juniper
upper rain
upper rain
frigid stag
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It’s Bartlett lake

dense locust
#

did intel make ultra using their own fabs or is it just TSMC

fresh timber
royal crow
upper rain
lone mango
dense locust
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i know their gpus use TSMC

upper rain
fresh timber
dense locust
rancid juniper
fresh timber
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performance is good

lone mango
#

Brutal

upper rain
nocturne flicker
upper rain
fresh timber
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okay

rancid juniper
#

Oh yeah, layoffs happened too

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fresh timber
rancid juniper
dense locust
upper rain
rancid juniper
fresh timber
#

does arrow lake have budget options yet

dense locust
rancid juniper
dense locust
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intel needs 18a just as we need it

nocturne flicker
rancid juniper
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I hope they finally make a winning move

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Instead of something dumb af

dense locust
upper rain
proud jackal
rancid juniper
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Brb

dense locust
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intel cpus can at least do productivity well

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especially the cheaper ones

upper rain
# rancid juniper

yikes. is this recent? i thought they were starting to make it work...

dense locust
upper rain
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suboptimal, truly. 18a seemed good performance wise. the last thing Intel needs is for Foundry to start failing alongside their floundering core architecture teams

lone mango
dense locust
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hopefully it has hit at least 50% or at least close to it

nocturne flicker
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One day grandma shall be proud

upper rain
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i have an early shift at work tomorrow, so i'm going to bed. gn lads

proud jackal
fresh timber
#

Chat

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Am I weird for wanting a 2080ti for no reason but Nvidia that’s good and cheap

dense locust
#

nvidia more like midia

fresh timber
#

How
Much are they

frigid stag
#

More than they’re worth

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And they’re blower cards

icy ore
rancid juniper
rancid juniper
dense locust
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what % is high enough for production

fresh timber
#

what makes them blowers

dense locust
#

fans

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on the gpu

frigid stag
chrome surge
worthy meteor
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Intel tries to stretch the definition of "production" to say 60% is production lol

fresh timber
#

unironicly id downgrade to a 12900k

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same performance as a 13600kf in gaming

rancid juniper
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why?

fresh timber
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cause it has a K instead of a KF kek

rancid juniper
#

🗿

fresh timber
#

and i bet they go for cheap

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cheap ish i just checked

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ok they suck on ebay wtf

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too close to faster cpus

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new 13700k is same price as used 12900k kek logic 100

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new 12900k cost too much to loose to a 13700k lmfaoo

frigid stag
fresh timber
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im ngl i forget i have 6 p cores

frigid stag
#

Can run hyperthreading off that way

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And not have a hit to fps

fresh timber
#

the Ecores dont make me feel like i have 6 P cores

rancid juniper
rancid juniper
fresh timber
#

$0 and $0 cent currently

rancid juniper
#

good

fresh timber
#

maybe after 9070xt ill consider, but not now

frigid stag
#

~~ what about KS ~~

fresh timber
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ok if i had the chance id buy a 14900ks

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and just thug it out with ddr4

frigid stag
#

Nice

rancid juniper
#

"I can fix it"

fresh timber
#

14900k in it self is worth upgrading to ddr5

fresh timber
#

*wait can u run lower clock speed on a non K cpu..

rancid juniper
#

i think you can

fresh timber
#

good

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hey compooper guess what im doing

rancid juniper
#

K allows for overclock not underclock

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wat

fresh timber
#

im getting a m.2 E+a key to m.2 M key adapter

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wanna know why

rancid juniper
#

uh why?

fresh timber
#

so i can plug a nvme into this wifi card i have

rancid juniper
#

tf

fresh timber
#

i have a wifi card rn, i can just remove the wifi thigy it self and use the m.2 slot kek

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i hope its pcie 3.0..

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ima plug it in real quick and see

rancid juniper
#

pcie 2.0

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😏

fresh timber
#

how fast is 1x 2.0 even 😢

rancid juniper
#

legit around SATA III speed

crimson scroll
#

Yall fw fenvi wifi bluetooth adapters?

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I got one brand new for like 8$

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Works nice

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But the antennas tho bro

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Suck so bad

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They are soo loose

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They just flop around

fresh timber
#

@rancid juniper how do extentiosn and such determin pcie gen.. if its just direct traces to the device couldnt it just handel any gen

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i dont see no chip or anything that could determin it

rancid juniper
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because both are easily identifiable if you look it up

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but if not, just use hwinfo

fresh timber
rancid juniper
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never used risers so i dunno if it affects speed

velvet summit
crimson scroll
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Its what i use

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I upgraded and downgraded from tplink ac1200 pcie wifi card (wifi 8) to fenvi ac1200 bluetooth wifi pcie (wifi4 and Bluetooth 3 i think or something lmfao)

velvet summit
#

Intel then I think

crimson scroll
#

Yep

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I use intel

fresh timber
#

im saving my wifi 6 card for any device thats like wifi 5 i might get

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i dont think ill ever use it

velvet summit
#

Honestly
Pretty much all wifi NICs are the same within the same chipset

fresh timber
#

until mediatek

crimson scroll
#

Mediatek good?

fresh timber
#

no

crimson scroll
#

Oh

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I think something in my pc is mediatek

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Ive seen it in settings or device manager

idle nexus
#

I couldn't locate one of the HDD cage/mount things even tho I probably have like 6 of them somewhere. They're usually the first thing out of a new case... anyway I had to improvise. Related, HDDs use 6-32 screws lol

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should hold it well enough I think

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there are 4 screws holding it. Two aren't visible from this angle lol

lone mango
#

Remember when I said I get like 2/3 to 3/4 of what I was supposed to get on my laptop

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Well I get the full speed now and its real good

fresh timber
#

I need like two mounts

lone mango
crimson scroll
#

My new build im going for

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Gonna get the motherboard cpu and ram first

lone mango
#

Sheesh

lone mango
#

Get the 9600x on newegg

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It comes with monster hunter wilds and a 500 gb ssd

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Also that ram you had was not very good and costs the same as this cl28

#

Yes, vengeance is overpriced

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Oh I thought I was helping you save with the board but this one is the same price as the msi board

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I hope that card comes down in price

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Even if you dont get it on newegg, the 9600x on amazon still comes with wilds but no ssd

fresh timber
lone mango
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Thats crazy

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5% single core

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I draw a little less power than stock while being a little faster, like 60w vs like a little over that

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I wonder how little voltage it will pull when I remove the overclock

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I think I saw it at 1 volt or something

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The drive I record videos onto and game on has 10.5 tbw, the 2tb drive I cloned onto has 7.5 tbw, the third drive I render to, which used to be my dad's os drive for an old laptop, has 5 tbw

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I think my drives will last a while

lone mango
#

Wow 5.62ghz single core thats crazy

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1ghz higher than 5600

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5.15 all core

lone mango
#

Oh yah 5.63 in game

dense locust
proud jackal
#

MSI gaming trio or msi vanguard 🤔

dense locust
#

Are you actually getting a 5090

proud jackal
dense locust
#

What’s the price difference

proud jackal
lone mango
#

Please wait bro applesob 🙏 💔

dense locust
#

The ventus for $3144.98 is the real joke here

proud jackal
#

Vanguard has slightly high clocks but doesn't look like it will do much

dense locust
#

I have a trio

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A 5080 tho

proud jackal
#

I had a 4090 trio and it was solid , vanguard is new and gamery

dense locust
#

If you’re gunna spend 99% of the way there just go to the 100% and get the vanguard

icy ore
#

Sell kidney

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Get 2 5090

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SLI for no reason

safe cape
frigid stag
#

Now you need to pay $100 for the game base edition kekw

frigid stag
#

Deluxe version $169.99

deep parcel
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whole year extra

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man...

frigid stag
#

They did say it would get delayed

deep parcel
#

I mean actually kinda just extra 6 months vs expected

frigid stag
#

I wasn’t expecting it to launch this year

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0 chance

deep parcel
#

it would have probably come out around october if it wasnt delayed

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or november

frigid stag
#

Probably

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Imagine it’s console only

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Brutal

deep parcel
#

probably

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hopefully they will at least drop another trailer

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like soonish

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people gonna be mad lol

frigid stag
#

I’ll probably buy the Ps5 at some point kekw

frigid stag
#

XD

deep parcel
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im prob gonna go xbox series x

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but by that time there prob will be a pro or something xbox

frigid stag
#

Nice

deep parcel
#

its only purpose would be for GTA lol

frigid stag
#

It’ll definitely boost sales for it

icy ore
#

Welp

#

Rip

safe cape
deep parcel
#

The new release date is cool though

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5/26/26

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But yeah FH6 better be good

#

Last 2 were flops

frigid stag
#

4 is v nice

tranquil pebble
safe cape
tranquil pebble
elfin mural
#

with fast cars given to you instantly in the first moment the cutscene ends

elfin mural
#

real

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in fh5 i was literally given a mercedes slk gtr 10 minutes in

tranquil pebble
#

in FH5

rancid juniper
#

That's expected

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At least the rest of the gaming industry has a sigh of relief this year

rancid juniper
#

The launch of that game better be pristine af

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Waiting 13 years for the next mainline title is crazy

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Tho there are IPs that lay dormant for near over 2 decades

safe cape
#

i feel a coop mode

rancid juniper
#

?

safe cape
#

in story mode

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2 players split screen or something

rancid juniper
fresh timber
#

Give me multiplayer

safe cape
dusk knot
#

Not happening

crimson scroll
dusk knot
#

Imagine if they have cyberpunk 2077 level path tracing

safe cape
#

yeah gta 5 already has RT

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why not path tracing in gta 6

proud jackal
#

Do I buy a 5090 today DoroLostinThoughts

safe cape
#

wait for 6090

crimson scroll
rancid juniper
pliant berry
#

imo unless it's something I actually need now, I just wait and keep it on my radar for sales or price drops

cursive oasis
#

What is Nvidia gonna do when they get to the 10,000s

dusk knot
#

With 48gb of VRAM

rancid juniper
dusk knot
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For local AI generation

#

That's not bad

crimson scroll
rancid juniper
primal kettle
#

Bugatti is the most overrated hypercar brand

crimson scroll
#

Bugatti is cool wym

safe cape
#

why ?

primal kettle
#

Quad turbo W16 that somehow only produces 1578 hp

crimson scroll
#

So

primal kettle
#

Can't even go over speed bumps, can barely go up most hills

crimson scroll
#

Its a low car

primal kettle
frigid stag
primal kettle
#

The Venom pushes 2031 with a twin turbo V8

crimson scroll
#

This dude dont know what he talking about 😂