general-chat

[velvet summit]

Amazing when compared to the cpu performance 💔

[hoary zodiac]

I sometimes use the dgpu

Pretty unnecessary tho

[frigid stag]

Ye minecraft is pretty optimized

[slate fractal]

im pretty sure my moms computer is older than me it has an ancient pentium, it barely runs minecraft on minimum everything settings at 50 fps

[hoary zodiac]

With mods*

[slate fractal]

its a hp too

[hoary zodiac]

I run minecraft on my igpu with shaders

[nocturne flicker]

I've deconstructed it a bit when put the hard drive into my main PC and replaced the psu, but it is a 4790k with 24gb DDR3 2400

[fresh timber]

im ngl

[frigid stag]

I’m surprised when people tell me they use stuff like sodium on high end builds

[hoary zodiac]

Around 45fps on average

[fresh timber]

i run mc with out mod sjust fine

[velvet summit]

Hello ngl

[hoary zodiac]

I mean why not

[frigid stag]

I’d have to try on purpose to get below 400 fps in minecraft

[hoary zodiac]

Crank up the graphics all the way

[slate fractal]

still more stable than those new intel cpus

[hoary zodiac]

I'd use sodium so I could get distant horizons on a stupidly high render

[slate fractal]

just max out settings in shaders

[nocturne flicker]

Actually, it isn't 24gb. It is 28

[hoary zodiac]

When I do use my dgpu

[frigid stag]

Even with that

[hoary zodiac]

I hold it back a lot

[frigid stag]

It’s too easy

[hoary zodiac]

I'm only on a RTX 3070 mobile so

Not the fastest gpu

[frigid stag]

Unless you get those custom shaders that nerf even a 4090

[hoary zodiac]

But I cap it at 90fps with optimized settings

[slate fractal]

ngl my cpu heavily bottlenecks my gpu

[hoary zodiac]

Shaders + distant horizons

I don't have a gpu bottleneck because I don't use the gpu

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber go to dms rq

[hoary zodiac]

All my games are cpu based

I don't know why I have a RTX 3070

[fresh timber]

how is m c unopmtised

1000+fps

[hoary zodiac]

Do you actually have an i5 8500 btw

[fresh timber]

when is it suppose to be unoptmised

[lone mango]

I froze again

1.285

[slate fractal]

yes

i also have a gt 730

[hoary zodiac]

How is it?

Eh

[slate fractal]

honestly not that bad

[hoary zodiac]

730?

Isn't that barely better than the UHD

[lone mango]

So close man

[frigid stag]

O

[hoary zodiac]

But anyways

[slate fractal]

takes some heat off the cpu from what ive heard if its not using integrated

[frigid stag]

Just need to tweak some timings a bit more

[rough wadi]

Gimme dat

[hoary zodiac]

I was thinking of getting an old optiplex with an i5-8500

It's around $100 so

[fresh timber]

with what money

[slate fractal]

i need an optiplex case to migrate to

[hoary zodiac]

Cheapest 6c I could find

No HT but it's coffee lake

[acoustic palm]

Listen to my pings

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093800682601062430/1104613213749923870/Screenshot_2023-03-02_195313.gif

[hoary zodiac]

Good single thread

[slate fractal]

cause a sff dell precision desktop case doesnt let me fit a full gpu

[hoary zodiac]

Great for my Minecraft server

Oh are you on an upgraded prebuilt

[lone mango]

I think it’s imc because it takes longer to freeze every time I bump vsoc

[hoary zodiac]

Nice

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

I love those

[frigid stag]

There’s imc voltage too but I don’t know how that works

You could tweak that but I’m not recommending it

[hoary zodiac]

My idea is to get an optiplex

And one of these

Decked out server

[lone mango]

I think this chip is not built for 6400 🥀

[hoary zodiac]

Might get 3200MHz ram too

[slate fractal]

basically i got a barebones precision 3430 with basically just psu cpu mobo and case, i got 32 gb ram and a gt 730 for 5 bucks

[hoary zodiac]

Not sure how much coffee lake benefits from ram

Especially for my use case

[slate fractal]

and bought a cheap hard drive just to boot for now until i get ssds

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

How much was the pc

[frigid stag]

Is hyper 412 even a good cooler

[lone mango]

Minecraft is ram heavy

[hoary zodiac]

212?

[fresh timber]

it is?

[slate fractal]

we dont talk about that

[hoary zodiac]

Hyper 212 is a good cooler... In 2014

[frigid stag]

Ye that’s what I thought too but there’s a 412 as well

[fresh timber]

my mc server is using more ram than the client

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[frigid stag]

Idk if it’s new

It’s like a 212 but a lot bigger

[hoary zodiac]

Surely it just gets destroyed by thermalright

[slate fractal]

minecrafts not anything heavy unless mods or shaders

[fresh timber]

fr

[lone mango]

Are other people on it

[fresh timber]

im playing stock minecraft

[fresh timber]

just my account right now

its 400mods tho

[slate fractal]

oh i also learned to replace thermal paste from this neat little trashcan i put together

[lone mango]

What I meant was it benefits from faster ram

[frigid stag]

Oh it’s from 2020

[fresh timber]

vanilla mc right now

[frigid stag]

thermalright is probably better then

[slate fractal]

how big page files do you guys set it to

[fresh timber]

i get 1000fps easily

ngl

so like.. when is this game suppose to be unoptmised

[frigid stag]

Peerless assasin is huge

[royal crow]

Get Sodium and lithium

[slate fractal]

do you play modded or just a full setup for vanilla 500 fps

[frigid stag]

Might hit my ram heatsinks

[hoary zodiac]

This is the cheapest I could find

Not a bad price

Comes with ram

[fresh timber]

right now im using stock

[slate fractal]

small form factor it looks dont bother

[hoary zodiac]

Although I might get a 2 16gb sticks

[hoary zodiac]

I am after the SFF

It's a server

[slate fractal]

eh i got mine for like 89 it was a 60 bid then shipping

[hoary zodiac]

Don't need a gpu

[slate fractal]

dell hates airflow in their desktops or something

[hoary zodiac]

It's more like $100

This is in AUD

Yeah but I was going to swap out the cooler anyways

[slate fractal]

literal blower cooler and only 1 exhaust fan and no intake

[hoary zodiac]

So it'd be more quiet

[frigid stag]

They are locked cpus

There’s not much heat

[hoary zodiac]

Plus it's an i5

And I'd be putting an overkill cooler on it

[slate fractal]

have you seen the thermal paste application on those cpus though

[hoary zodiac]

Mostly for acoustics

I mean

[slate fractal]

they were teasing the cpu dude

[hoary zodiac]

The cooler is kinda irrelevant in my case

Since ya know

Funny thermalright

Wait

They put an k sku?

Wtf

Why

Kinda a waste of a k sku

[frigid stag]

And it cost like 4 grand

[slate fractal]

that's enough for a gpu

apples greedy

[hoary zodiac]

🤨

Are they just putting the k sku in there for marketing

[frigid stag]

XD

[hoary zodiac]

But like

What's the point

I don't get it

[frigid stag]

Probably to say they had the fastest cpu

[hoary zodiac]

An 9900 would probably run the same

In an imac

[frigid stag]

All that for 4-5 grand

[hoary zodiac]

The gpu makes sense

But like

K sku

I doubt it can handle overclocking

If the chipset even supports it

[pliant berry]

the thing that drives me crazy with the imacs is the fact that you can't reuse the system as an external monitor for a new system

[hoary zodiac]

How to make an imac

Get a monitor

Gut it

Get a laptop

Duct tape it to the back

[slate fractal]

take a bigmac and remove the b and g

[hoary zodiac]

Tape the cover back on

Is that ALL of the heatsink?

Or is there more

[fresh timber]

I’m ngl I’d buy a iMac if they had like 9700x 5070 types speds

[hoary zodiac]

Probably cooled with the chassis

[slate fractal]

i eat graphics cards

this tastes good

[hoary zodiac]

Really tempted to drop $200 on an optiplex + upgrades

Which pisses me off even more

[slate fractal]

problems of the employed (i have 12 dollars in my account)

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine wasting a k sku when the 9900 would've worked the exact same

To be fair the xeons make sense

The cores serves a purpose

But with the 9900k

There's something that works just as well

The i9-9900 would perform the same

I can guarantee you

[hoary zodiac]

I don't have $200 lol

That's why I'm only tempted

I really want an upgrade to my nas

And my haswell server

[slate fractal]

yeah well the best gpu i own is a r9 380 and i cant even use it so im poorer i win

[hoary zodiac]

I used to game on a q9400

In 2018

[frigid stag]

Isn’t that a core 2

[slate fractal]

in 2018 i gamed on a then 8 year old pentium's igpu on a system with 4 gb of ram

[hoary zodiac]

The Q9400 was 10 years old in 2018

The quad probably blows the pentium out of the water lmao

That's the funny part

Ivy bridge probably would've been cheap

I think sandy/ivy was pretty popular back then

Good old days

When core counts didn't matter as much

Now I find myself looking at coffee lake as a minimum

Because I want cores without the power consumption

Older xeons chug a lot of power sadly

1k is the sweet spot but it's definitely not the min

Actually

Maybe it's not

The 1080ti was $699 right?

The sweet spot's probably more like $600-700 tbh

In 2018

With a 1070 or whatever

Yeah

Budget builds were really good too

Get a used dell workstation

And just chuck a 5700xt in it

That's more 2020

Hmm

1070?

e5-16xx v2 with a 1070

The psu in those things are really good so

They could probably handle a 1080ti

And boom

Top of the line gaming pc for cheap

Get a HD7870 or something

Can the psus power a 7870?

7850 maybe

Or RX 460

That is

If you could find one

Miners took them all

570 was actually pretty goated

Imagine 570 8GB and 4770

[fresh timber]

Fan

[idle nexus]

what's a decent price for 10700KF/3060/Z490 MSI Gaming Carbon Wifi/2x16gb djr?

[fresh timber]

Why sell the nas

[hoary zodiac]

$1000

Take advantage of the market

You can unironically get it to 1k

With Z490 and i7 tax

[fresh timber]

Scalper no scalper

[hoary zodiac]

It's not worth that much

[idle nexus]

I'll just use 13600K/Z690 Unify-X/2x1080ti/2x24gb 7200c34 for NAS/pihole

[hoary zodiac]

But i7 and Z chipset

Plus market sucks rn

So you can get a pretty good amount

[fresh timber]

Buy a n100 mini pc please

[idle nexus]

I was thinking $600 was likely to get it out the door fast-ish

[inland pulsar]

is a 1050TI good paired with 16 gigs ddr5 and a ryzen 8600g

[hoary zodiac]

Use the igpu

👍🏻

[fresh timber]

How much for z690 and ram

[hoary zodiac]

Don't buy a 1050ti

You'd be wasting money

[fresh timber]

Ram

[idle nexus]

lol no selling in this discord

[inland pulsar]

but would adding it give me more frames? im getting it for free from someone who got a new one

[hoary zodiac]

Not enough gains to justify buying a whole gpu

[fresh timber]

Good thing atleast 1/4 servers we share allow it

[hoary zodiac]

Well...

[idle nexus]

lol I was thinking of putting th 10700KF build on jawa. Hadn't really thought of getting rid of the 13600K build

[hoary zodiac]

Depends on the game

[idle nexus]

tbh the 13600K is borked but I can't RMA it cuz I got it off someone

[lone mango]

Going from cl32 6400 to cl26 6000

[inland pulsar]

on average, would it make my performance any worse

[idle nexus]

& broke it myself I think

[lone mango]

will this even post

[sinful blade]

Ask Jawa for pricing

[hoary zodiac]

On average the igpu is faster

So

[idle nexus]

13600K will do 6.1ghz on one core for 3dmark01SE if you push it hard enough

[hoary zodiac]

Jesus christ igpus are getting pretty good these days

[idle nexus]

it will also crash running UE5 games

[hoary zodiac]

I want that igpu now wtf

[idle nexus]

not sure if those two things are related lol

[lone mango]

Which igpu

[hoary zodiac]

The Radeon 760M

[lone mango]

True

[inland pulsar]

yeah but if i add a 1050TI wouldnt it be like a dual gpu system

[hoary zodiac]

Uh

No

That's not how it works

[lone mango]

The 9600x igpu can play minecraft no problem

And even gta

Well

Before the update

Idk now

[idle nexus]

I built my son's computer with this 13600K/3070/U-X/7200c34 memory & it would crash in Palworld

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

My slower 5900HX igpu could run minecraft with shaders

So

[idle nexus]

so he ended up with 5900x/2080ti/2x16 3800c14/B550 Aorus Master

[hoary zodiac]

I am starting to actually use my dgpu mow

[fresh timber]

Your son is lucky

[idle nexus]

2080ti 12gb > 3070 8gb imo

[lone mango]

I wanna see if it runs complementary

[hoary zodiac]

I cranked my monitor refresh rate cap up to 90hz

[lone mango]

True

[hoary zodiac]

Ok sure

[idle nexus]

I think 3070 has aged the worst of all my GPUs

[hoary zodiac]

I have a 3070

[idle nexus]

I kinda wanna solder on biggers ICs

[hoary zodiac]

I don't even use it

[idle nexus]

I suck at soldering but...

maybe I can practice on a gtx650 or some other gpu I have but never ever use lol

[hoary zodiac]

Put 16gb of ram on a gtx 650

[idle nexus]

lol nvidia will send a SWAT team to my house somehow

[frigid stag]

They’re selling gtx 550ti’s with 8gb on Amazon

[hoary zodiac]

Scamazon

Sus

[fresh timber]

I’m ngl I want a quadriplegic

[idle nexus]

anyone tried Bazzite?

[hoary zodiac]

I'd believe that if it was AliExpress

[idle nexus]

I installed it on that 13600K build

[lone mango]

Oh no cl26 did not boot

[idle nexus]

never actually played anything tho. I lost interest lol

[lone mango]

Or post even

[frigid stag]

It’s 3rd party sellers selling them

[hoary zodiac]

I game on linux so

The experience is practically the same

[fresh timber]

Yes

[frigid stag]

There’s also 22gb 2080 tis occasionally on there

[hoary zodiac]

Nvidia is a pain but

If it works it works

[idle nexus]

moar DRAM voltage

[lone mango]

So now I probably have to reset cmos

[lone mango]

1.45?

[idle nexus]

it's kinda cool. Is it basically steamOS? seems like it

[lone mango]

Its similar

[idle nexus]

what frequency?

[lone mango]

Same vibe

[lone mango]

6000

[idle nexus]

I tried installing SteamOS but it kept acting strange & I lost interest

I don't think you really need that much DRAM voltage for 6000c26

[lone mango]

Yeah its not the best for systems besides the deck

[lone mango]

I bumped it up from 1.35 to 1.4 originally

[idle nexus]

well... maybe I'm at 6400c28@1.55v

[hoary zodiac]

I prefer more mainstream linux distros

[lone mango]

Its a 6400 kit but I keep freezing with it so I am down clocking and lowering timings

[hoary zodiac]

Easier to troubleshoot when things go wrong

[fresh timber]

Yup

[idle nexus]

what's your VSOC set to when 6400 hecks out?

[hoary zodiac]

Good documentation is the key to a good linux experience

But I suppose if it's solely a gaming machine

[lone mango]

I put it up to 1.285 and it still freezes

[idle nexus]

also, did you enable SOC Uncore Mode in AMD OC settings?

[hoary zodiac]

There's probably not much that could go wrong

[lone mango]

I don’t remember the voltage to clock ratios

Should it be 1.3 for 6400

[lone mango]

True

[idle nexus]

1:1 UCLK:MCLK higher frequency seems to scale with VSOC voltage in my experience

I'm at 1.285v for 6400 & this is on DR

[hoary zodiac]

The arch wiki is so good you can use it to troubleshoot other distros

[lone mango]

Perhaps my imc is not good enough

[idle nexus]

with about the cheapest A-die you can get lol

what's your IMC VDD?

btw are you setting DRAM voltage & DRAM VDDQ voltage the same?

[lone mango]

I dont remember I gotta reset this cmos

[lone mango]

Yeah I noticed expo set vdd vddq and vddp all the same voltage so I set all 3 to 1.4

But for imc I gotta reset hold up

Thing is the jumper pins are under the gpu

Who designed this bruh

[idle nexus]

what about CPUVDDIO?

messing with ProcODT can help

[lone mango]

Forgor

[idle nexus]

there's many rabbit holes lol

[lone mango]

Idk what can get under the graphics card and reset this

[fresh timber]

Cooling

[idle nexus]

paperclip? ehh pen with a metal end... screwdriver is what I usually use

[lone mango]

Ok its not as bad as i thought

I just gotta aim that screwdriver frfr

[idle nexus]

ya just don't jab at it & break something & you're good

[lone mango]

Oh my bad I said vpp earlier but its vddio vdd and vddq

Those are all the same

[lone mango]

They are pretty tough ngl

Ok so which option is the imc voltage

Doesn’t explicitly say

So I was just bumping up soc earlier

[idle nexus]

IMC VDD... umm

[lone mango]

I dont see it

[hoary zodiac]

@lone mango

left complementary

right bsl

[idle nexus]

sorry ig it's VDDIO

[hoary zodiac]

oh wait

i botched the test

the laptop wasn't plugged in

[lone mango]

[crimson scroll]

Yall see wgat gappened on pcbuild sub reddit?

Bruh

[idle nexus]

you might try bumping VDD Misc to 1.1

[random osprey]

@lone mango i gave up, windows 11 install wouldnt let me go past the network screen and dont know how to or if i can open terminal during installation of windows 11, so i just reinstalled windows 10 and i got my glorious "i dont have internet" button back

[hoary zodiac]

did someone make an nzxt build with corsair vengenance or something

[crimson scroll]

No

Guy replied to CP

yes that cp

His account is now deleted

[hoary zodiac]

🥱

[idle nexus]

I know another way around this besides BYPASSNRO

[crimson scroll]

This post

The comments called him out and his account is deleted

[hoary zodiac]

kinda disappointed really

was excepting something really funny

[idle nexus]

If the Internet is disabled, you start the reinstallation of Windows 11. You get to the window: "Unfortunately you have lost the Internet connection". From here it starts. Replace "User Name" with whatever you wish to use for the account:
Press Shift + F10. The command prompt opens
net.exe user "User Name" /add
net.exe localgroup "Administrators" "User Name" /add
cd OOBE
msoobe.exe && shutdown.exe -r
Windows will now restart and start with the other settings until Windows 11 is installed correctly with a local account.
When logging in, "The user name or password is incorrect" now appears.
Simply press OK and select the right account at the bottom left of screen. You should have one for Administrator and one for whatever name you used as "User Name" above.

[hoary zodiac]

like a crappy pc build

[rancid juniper]

tf is this hard drive doing?

[crimson scroll]

Broooo lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

@lone mango fixed

left BSL right Complementary

[rancid juniper]

all block

[frigid stag]

😬

[hoary zodiac]

complementary runs just as bad plugged in

[crimson scroll]

Mannnn thats insane

[rancid juniper]

It's busy extracting a file

Taking a bit

Ok it's done

[crimson scroll]

Thats not normal lol

My old hdd was 4000 respnse time

And I thought that was sllw

But i copied the entire hdd to a nvme ssd and it was still sllw

Slow

So idk for sure

[random osprey]

This is what I was stuck on and couldn’t even install drivers, they weren’t showing up on my usb drive.

[royal crow]

Specifically Reimagined

[hoary zodiac]

complementary runs at 30fps with my 3070

[rancid juniper]

I mean a 5400rpm hard drive with 4tb capacity trying to find those files will make it slow af

[hoary zodiac]

wtf??????

[rancid juniper]

Tf?

[crimson scroll]

I rmb when there were popular

These

[hoary zodiac]

hello? gpu?

[rancid juniper]

Minecraft making your GPU look like an igpu

[dense locust]

Try using the ray tracing shaders

Let’s see them single digits

[rancid juniper]

Is it actually legit?

RT on Java?

[dense locust]

It’s software based but yes

[rancid juniper]

That's sick

[royal crow]

My igpu runs comp Unbound at 40 fps

[rancid juniper]

Just like vulkan on java

[royal crow]

Hehehe

[rancid juniper]

Better than the 3070

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

it's playable

runs like crap

but it's playable

[dense locust]

_ _

[hoary zodiac]

looks so jarring with distant horizon

do y'all optimize your shaders?

[royal crow]

I have pbr off and that's abt it

[hoary zodiac]

ok...

wtf

why is it 50fps

something is wrong

[lone mango]

Thats really weird

[hoary zodiac]

the 3070 is NOT that slow

I'm at 50fps on bsl

[lone mango]

Performance between the two for me is almost the same

[hoary zodiac]

I'm starting to think something's up

[dense locust]

Maybe it’s a vram limit?

[hoary zodiac]

it was running at 90fps last time

[lone mango]

Nah cant be

[slate fractal]

just dont use shaders

[lone mango]

Must be some weird power limit thing idk

[hoary zodiac]

cpu looks fine

[lone mango]

It is 1.1 by default when I select a profile

[dense locust]

hmmm

i guess it didnt like the second shader

[idle nexus]

shift+F10 doesn't open CMD?

[hoary zodiac]

eh?

is the 3070 just that slow

[idle nexus]

what's VDDIO set to?

1.4? try lower

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna run a system update

think it might be that time of the month

[idle nexus]

also, if you want to test memory stability, ycruncher VT3 will beat the heck out of it

[lone mango]

Yeah I matched it to the other voltages

[hoary zodiac]

you know what...

[idle nexus]

do you have PBO enabled? offset magnitudes can be heckers

[hoary zodiac]

what if nvidia messed up the drivers

[lone mango]

Nah nothing is on

[hoary zodiac]

I do have a driver update queued up

maybe that's it

[random osprey]

nop

[lone mango]

Bruh did they stop the terminal from opening

[random osprey]

just installed windows 10 instead, my glorious "i dont have internet" button is great

[idle nexus]

I got tired of fighting Windows so I'm using Ghost-Spectre for daily rn

[hoary zodiac]

?

the hotkey broke?

[lone mango]

Are you on a laptop

[random osprey]

desktop

[lone mango]

Oh I was gonna say maybe the fn key needs to be pressed

My laptop has a fn lock

[random osprey]

tried shift f10 and shift 10 as well as just f10, nothin worked

windows is fun

[hoary zodiac]

I'm kinda tempted to reinstall on my gaming laptop

this install is pretty bloated

or maybe I could just go on a purge

[random osprey]

all this just cause forza wouldnt load

or any of my racing games

[hoary zodiac]

I should make a script called the NKVD and just use it to purge my packages

[idle nexus]

hmm maybe I should put the stock cooler back on 3070 & put that in instead of 3060. Too bad this stupid case won't fit the 360 or 280mm LF2s I have https://www.jawa.gg/product/67208/gaming-pc-i7-10700kf-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-rtx-3070-8gb-win-11-computer

[hoary zodiac]

every time I update this thing I have to update 100+ packages

unironically bloated

[lone mango]

Are you doing shift f10 at the wifi screen

[idle nexus]

updating ZorinOS on my SurfaceGo2 kept breaking GRUB so I just wiped & reinstalled

[random osprey]

ye

[lone mango]

Lets get you connected screen

[hoary zodiac]

this install is like 6 months old with the same package list from a 2 year old install

[lone mango]

This is crazy

[hoary zodiac]

so it's bloated as hell

[dense locust]

is the keyboard connected

[random osprey]

the pic i sent is where i was doing it

[random osprey]

idk how to do the slash so pretend this sentence is slashed. how do you think i got to that screen

[dense locust]

mouse

[random osprey]

the keyboard is the mouse

[rancid juniper]

imma run the latest minecraft java version bone stock and check perf

[hoary zodiac]

when your package update is taking more than 10 minutes

you know you have to start deleting

[idle nexus]

kinda love this extension ngl lol https://dearrow.ajay.app/

[lone mango]

What linux do to a mf

[crimson scroll]

Lonux bad windows good

[lone mango]

[crimson scroll]

Lmao

[idle nexus]

I think it's like tilde tilde [what you wanna slash] tilde tilde

[crimson scroll]

I can’t believe that dude thoooo

Looking for cp on reddit is insane tho

People see that

[lone mango]

Some fellas just dont care

[dense locust]

hmmm i forgot about settings

[crimson scroll]

Hell nah

[idle nexus]

before

after

[crimson scroll]

Is that new?

The video

[idle nexus]

thanks dearrow lol

[hoary zodiac]

thank god I don't use KDE

[idle nexus]

eh I dunno tbh

[crimson scroll]

Damn

[dense locust]

na its been around for a while

[hoary zodiac]

I got soo many packages

[rancid juniper]

bruh why wont minecraft java launch?

💀

[crimson scroll]

Yo

[hoary zodiac]

wrong java version probably

[crimson scroll]

Compooper

[lone mango]

What are you using

[hoary zodiac]

did you have the right java selected in the launch settings

[crimson scroll]

Is monecraft playable offline? Or do i need wifi to launch it

[lone mango]

Can do offline

[rancid juniper]

yea

[crimson scroll]

Not what reddit told me

Said i need wifi to launch it

[dense locust]

you need to launch it with internet once then after that you can play it offline

[lone mango]

Which launcher you using

[crimson scroll]

Can somebody verify this fof me?

[rancid juniper]

this dookie

nothing is happening

[crimson scroll]

Dont wanna buy the game and then not be able to play

[dense locust]

fine

[lone mango]

Well you have the jdk

Which version is it

[rancid juniper]

trying to play the latest release

[lone mango]

Which jdk

[crimson scroll]

Man

[idle nexus]

latest nvidia driver unborked yet? 576.28? I'm still on December's

[crimson scroll]

I rmn when OF meNt optifine

[hoary zodiac]

that's why

[lone mango]

You need 21

[hoary zodiac]

you need java 21

[lone mango]

8 is old

[rancid juniper]

oh wtf

and im the type to update everything

ok thanks

[lone mango]

21 is needed for 1.20.6+

[rancid juniper]

you liar

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

OH

MY

GOD

[lone mango]

Use prism it deals with this stuff automatically

[idle nexus]

links in video descriptions for ghost-spectre win11 https://www.youtube.com/@GHOSTSPECTRE

[hoary zodiac]

THANK YOU YAY DEVELOPERS

GOD BLESS

[rancid juniper]

is bro using linux?

[lone mango]

How they know what is unneeded tho

[crimson scroll]

U verified yet?

[hoary zodiac]

they're dependencies so

if the packages don't rquire them

[past totem]

hey guys. i have something i need help with. pretty weird issue

[topaz crown]

Hello @past totem! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[idle nexus]

this is built into ghost-spectre which is kinda cool

[hoary zodiac]

the thing when you're uninstalling

or updating

sometimes things get a bit messy and

it's not too clean

[crimson scroll]

What

[hoary zodiac]

Kinda reminds me of chris titus

But more TUI based

[past totem]

my bluetooth speaker, headphones always stutter when i connect them to my pc and my pc only

[hoary zodiac]

Like the uhh

[past totem]

other devices work fine even my laptop.

[rancid juniper]

451 updates

lmfao

[random osprey]

stops windows update till 2077 💀

[idle nexus]

got this from ghosttoolbox

[past totem]

bt driver, bios all updated

[hoary zodiac]

Like a certain tui tool

[crimson scroll]

What bluetooth dongle u use

[hoary zodiac]

This is all I'll say

If you know you know

[idle nexus]

lol effective way to avoid recall

[past totem]

only bluetooth dongle i have is for my razer mouse. everything else is wireless connection

[idle nexus]

you can run like a single instance of windows update & still keep it paused iirc

[crimson scroll]

I meant bluetooth wifi card or wtv u use

[misty sparrow]

wait...gravel? gravel drops flint sometimes...so that means

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-17997916878979753001

[past totem]

its wifi 5 from my msi x570 meg ace

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-flint-and-steel-gif-4491320584761369279

[idle nexus]

lol this is in ghostoolbox

[crimson scroll]

Oh

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-meme-jack-black-steve-gif-15178171931402676751

[rancid juniper]

Flint LOCKWOOD and Stealer

[lone mango]

Lmfao

[crimson scroll]

Download the motherboard drivers

[hoary zodiac]

I probably wouldn't say the name here

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/true-has-been-planted-true-counter-strike-cs-bomb-gif-2516458998739593313

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/true-meme-true-true-jockey-minecraft-minecraft-movie-gif-2910984881557830155

[past totem]

did that a bunch. heres something tho. when i move my speaker away from the pc, the stuttering stops

[idle nexus]

do you have the silly looking wifi antenna for your motherboard attached? it handles wifi & bluetooh connections, both of which will suck without the silly thing

[misty sparrow]

it is now May 1, 2025 in my timezone

[past totem]

chat gpt tells me is electromagnetic interference

[hoary zodiac]

cloud

what kernel ver are you on

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/angy-bladerunner-blade-runner-2049-gif-16913771

[past totem]

i do have it connected but i also have ethernet connected as well

looks like a tripod kinda right

[idle nexus]

ah okay cuz I had bluetooth acting up because I didn't connect that ridiculous antenna before

my phone can get reception 2 stories underground from a cell tower miles away

[past totem]

hmmm maybe i should take it off and that will ironically help lol

[idle nexus]

but my PC needs a stupid antenna to get wifi from the other room

[hoary zodiac]

ahhh

minecraft is still running like crap

actually

[dense locust]

ahh im back

[hoary zodiac]

you know what...

I have a theory

[rancid juniper]

minecraft still wont load up after installing the latest JDK

[idle nexus]

where'd you get wifi/bluetooth driver from? motherboard's website?

[rancid juniper]

fake launcher

[hoary zodiac]

maybe it's not the gpu

[misty sparrow]

pretty sure minecraft has always been a more cpu-intensive game

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAHAHAH

IT'S RUNNING AT THE CAP NOW

AHHAHAHA

[past totem]

yea straight from MSI

[hoary zodiac]

ALL THIS TIME IT WAS MOBS

complementary runs at the full 90fps too

[dense locust]

mobs?

[past totem]

after connecting my headphones and the same keeps happening. im convinced its a bt issue. unlikely electromagnetic interference cuz what

[idle nexus]

windows update>Advanced options>Optional updates doesn't offer a newer driver?

[misty sparrow]

yeah a bunch of entities on the screen can tank frames

[hoary zodiac]

uncapped fps comp

[rancid juniper]

WTF?? I OWN THIS

[hoary zodiac]

gonna do an igpu bench now

[past totem]

im on windows 10 still

[idle nexus]

lol sounds like a throwaway answer because of the all the nonsense you'd have to go through to actually figure out if that's the issue

[lone mango]

I think 6.14.3

[idle nexus]

which motherboard? does it happen with all bluetooth devices or just some? latest bios?

[dense locust]

did you ever buy any version?

[hoary zodiac]

lol

[past totem]

all bluetooth devices. updated to latest bios today

[rancid juniper]

yes

[dense locust]

did you transfer to a microsoft account?

[rancid juniper]

bedrock runs fine

yes

Java used to work

[hoary zodiac]

I got like 3-5fps

[lone mango]

Probably not getting anything because ge is working on nobara 42

[dense locust]

microsoft store prob being weird check in my apps

[lone mango]

Fedora 42 just came out

[hoary zodiac]

on igpu

[lone mango]

Like a week ago or smth

[slate fractal]

hmm

[idle nexus]

can't it update from the stinky launcher?

[rancid juniper]

reinstalling it as we speak

[past totem]

@idle nexus i unplugged the antenna and now theres no sound lol maybe i do need it

[hoary zodiac]

BSL runs at 45 avg

[dense locust]

forge?

[past totem]

yea now its lagging HARD

[rancid juniper]

what a strange night 🗿

[dense locust]

nvm it says fabric right there

[idle nexus]

lol ya the antenna is necessary sadly

[dense locust]

weird how it doesnt work for me

[hoary zodiac]

gonna turn the dgpu back on now

[misty sparrow]

well, it is May 1, 2025

[hoary zodiac]

so yeah

[past totem]

ill put it back in...PAUSE

[rancid juniper]

what does this supposed to mean lol?

[hoary zodiac]

minecraft with bsl shaders with my 5900HX igpu is pretty playable

Ryzen goated

[misty sparrow]

For some reason all hell breaks loose in May

[hoary zodiac]

now I'm gonna go kill those stupid mobs

[dense locust]

i dont even wanna test it on my 9800x3d gpu

[rancid juniper]

BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[idle nexus]

uh when did MC launcher get all intimate with discord like this?

[hoary zodiac]

doesn't that have the Radeon M igpus

do it

that'd unironically run decent

[misty sparrow]

and weren't you trying to get my ass to download it the other day? i dodged a bullet

[dense locust]

it's discord's new overlay

released recently

[idle nexus]

ah jeez

[hoary zodiac]

there's a new overlay?

[rancid juniper]

XD

[idle nexus]

coming soon to a discord near you: ads you hate

[rancid juniper]

well atleast it works

[past totem]

maybe the issue was then the antenna wasnt close enough?

[misty sparrow]

now ran by a guy who was from Activision

[hoary zodiac]

no overlays in MY linux install

steam overlay only

[misty sparrow]

hopefully nothing happens in the Discord workplace

absolutely nothing to note

[dense locust]

we saw you were enjoying minecraft here an ad for a similar game
candycrush.mp4

[past totem]

@idle nexus OMG ITS THE ANTENNA

im gripping it and the stuttering starts

[past totem]

that crap weak as heck

[idle nexus]

wth do these do?

[dense locust]

you can claim rewards with them

usually giftcards

[rancid juniper]

Hey uh, can I get some of that?

[hoary zodiac]

I was cramming WAY TOO MANY MOBS in those pens

[rancid juniper]

If you don't want it

I can have it

😏

[dense locust]

10000 points is worth $10 i think

[idle nexus]

that's strange lmao

[misty sparrow]

takes way too long to earn points

[rancid juniper]

What is this new MC soundtrack?

😲

[idle nexus]

are these the same as the bing rewards thing?

[hoary zodiac]

I turn off the soundtrack

[misty sparrow]

same exact thing yes

[hoary zodiac]

instead I play this

[dense locust]

yes

they are the same

count toward the same

[idle nexus]

ahh I see

[misty sparrow]

You probably do unspeakable acts to Villagers

[hoary zodiac]

why yes I am planning to recreate serfdom in minecraft

how ddid you know

[idle nexus]

sugar??

[royal crow]

Which is why we use sodium extra overlay

[rancid juniper]

Real

[hoary zodiac]

the serfs aren't people

[misty sparrow]

I prefer Minecraft with only the C418 tracks

[dense locust]

yes

[royal crow]

YES

[dense locust]

im glad im not the only one

[misty sparrow]

Newer tracks don't capture the magic

[dense locust]

i mean they are nice tracks

[royal crow]

this man is spitting mad fax, no printer

[dense locust]

they just dont fit minecraft

[misty sparrow]

there's a reason why when people talk about the Minecraft soundtrack most people talk about the C418 stuff and not the newer stuff

except Pigstep

[hoary zodiac]

remember stampy?

[dense locust]

unfun fact c418 has an entire album he can never release

[past totem]

@idle nexus thanks so much man. u helped me figure out it was the antenna

[royal crow]

Ok nether update music was🔥

[dense locust]

https://youtu.be/f-y4SusrNeU?feature=shared

[misty sparrow]

mediocre

[dense locust]

rare c418 track

i dont like pigstep

[royal crow]

And so was Caves and cliffs to a degree

[dense locust]

sorry

[idle nexus]

no worries. I wonder if you can RMA the antenna or if they'd make you send the whole motherboard cuz they're, uh, not nice

[hoary zodiac]

minecraft has no depth

the updates don't add anything to enrich the gameplay

[past totem]

its 6 years old lol

[hoary zodiac]

they just add more stuff

[past totem]

am4

[dense locust]

wdym it has blocks everywhere

[hoary zodiac]

but the core gameplay is still the same

[royal crow]

What dost thou talk about

[hoary zodiac]

I meant the newer updates

[rancid juniper]

hmmm

[dense locust]

yeah they add stuff into the game and dont really fix any major progression issues

[rancid juniper]

could be faster

[past totem]

i dont think its faulty. it just wasnt close enough. or maybe it shouldnt have to be very close?

[dense locust]

mending was an overpowered fix to a problem caused by anvils

[royal crow]

Oh yeah newer stuff is bleh

[dense locust]

anvils still arent fixed

[hoary zodiac]

having more biomes without a good way to explore is pretty eh

[misty sparrow]

It took them so long to add actual shaders that were promised back in 2020

[hoary zodiac]

they should make a update where they just make the world richer

[dense locust]

the biome that added the creaking added nothing of value

[hoary zodiac]

instead of just adding random stuff

[idle nexus]

oh. lol I think this is the MSI antenna with the letters MSI removed https://www.amazon.com/Tri-Band-Magnetic-Replacement-Motherboard-Slinkdsco/dp/B0D8Y3NHGZ?

[hoary zodiac]

they have width but not depth

[misty sparrow]

to be fair they did this with Caves & Cliffs, entirely revamped the cave exploration

[hoary zodiac]

oh yeah

caves and cliffs was the best recent update

[dense locust]

they pretty much incentivize adding random stuff since now they gotta release every few months

[hoary zodiac]

after that it's just been

random crap

[royal crow]

Only mojsng sees value in new wood types

[dense locust]

grayscale wood

[hoary zodiac]

I do like the new wood

[misty sparrow]

I feel like the End could be expanded upon a lot more

[hoary zodiac]

I'm a builder

[misty sparrow]

They should focus on that

[hoary zodiac]

but even then

[rancid juniper]

wtf house in a cave?

[royal crow]

What I've been sayin for years

[hoary zodiac]

that's why I play with datapacks

that add more structure

base game is so mid

[misty sparrow]

Last time End got touched was what, 1.9?

That was over six years ago

[hoary zodiac]

there's so much content but to access that content you have to go through the same repetitive gameplay loop

[dense locust]

pretty much useless to go to the end after beating the game

[misty sparrow]

They added chorus plants, more End floating islands, and floating ships

[royal crow]

It was well over ten

[misty sparrow]

they should really add more variety to the End

[hoary zodiac]

npcs are also boring

the minecraft world is empty

[idle nexus]

I honestly can't tell if this person is being sarcastic or not

[dense locust]

make a shulker farm then nothing is needed from the end

[hoary zodiac]

that's why in this new server

[misty sparrow]

took them so long to make the Wandering Trader useful instead of selling you junk for emeralds

[hoary zodiac]

I haven't even gone to the nether

i have a full stack of diamonds

I'm just taking my time and building

and planning for my serfdom larp

[dense locust]

mojang loves making everything more annoying

[misty sparrow]

just gonna say it, terraria did what Minecraft should've done a long time ago

[rancid juniper]

strange text

[misty sparrow]

Somehow it has more variety

[dense locust]

very few people got netherrite

but they made it harder to obtain anyways

[hoary zodiac]

I just spam beds

[misty sparrow]

I'm surprised Terraria has basically more variety and is more interesting when it's a 2D game

[dense locust]

i remember my bedwars days

[misty sparrow]

and the music is up there with Minecraft OST too

[dense locust]

i played that game too much

[royal crow]

Terraria but 3d with shaders

[hoary zodiac]

I hate hypixel combat

[dense locust]

i prefer it to 1.9

[hoary zodiac]

the core gameplay is just clicking

[dense locust]

1.9 is so slow

[misty sparrow]

minecraft combat was always kind of shallow

[hoary zodiac]

I don't like how hypixel specifically implemented their 1.8 combat tho

[dense locust]

we havent heard about the combat test snapshots in years

[idle nexus]

I have a confession: I've never played any of these

[hoary zodiac]

it's just click the hell out of the other player

if you have latency

you're screwed

[rancid juniper]

Def a fun pasttime

[dense locust]

thats just how minecraft servers work

[misty sparrow]

Elder Scrolls? Same here, only played a few hours of Skyrim and intro to Oblivion that's it

should probably be good to go out of the box though

[hoary zodiac]

1.9 is slow but the 1.8 combat is so broken

[idle nexus]

I played Fallout 4 & crappy Starfield but never any oblivion games

not really that into the whole castle/middle ages thing ig

[misty sparrow]

i got starfield for free and still felt robbed

[rancid juniper]

Bro is gonna go to sleep if he plays those

[dense locust]

we need a new fallout game

[rancid juniper]

[dense locust]

its been way way too long

[idle nexus]

same. robbed of my time

[hoary zodiac]

*good fallout game

[idle nexus]

supposedly, Fallout 3 Remastered is happening

[misty sparrow]

hear me out

official fallout 1 and 2 remake in 3D

[rancid juniper]

16x the detail
16x the boredom

[hoary zodiac]

are they doing the skyrim route

[lone mango]

Is vddio mem 1.4 too high

[dense locust]

bethesda hasnt done anything with that franchise
like seriously the tv show released with so much fanfare
but no game to go with it

[misty sparrow]

60FPS patch on console though

[dense locust]

i think they should hand off some ips to other studios

[misty sparrow]

the thing that people waited years for

[rancid juniper]

They will only work on FO6 after TES6

[hoary zodiac]

they should make a fallout series in europe

or japan

[rancid juniper]

so its gonna be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time

[hoary zodiac]

shake things up a bit

[proud jackal]

Starfield 2

[rancid juniper]

aw hell no

[dense locust]

we dont need such long development times

[hoary zodiac]

if they stopped making slop and focused on one big game

we would have have better development times

[rancid juniper]

you'll be surprised how stingy these bum publishers are

cant even try to make smaller scale games

or give rights to other devs

[hoary zodiac]

real

[dense locust]

AAA is screwed

[hoary zodiac]

everyone remembers undertale

but who tf remembers anthem

what even was anthem

[rancid juniper]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[idle nexus]

I think at 6400 I only run 1.25v. Trying lower might help

[rancid juniper]

so true

[lone mango]

Ok

[dense locust]

toby fox will prob complete deltarune before the next fallout game releases

all 7 chapters

[idle nexus]

lol all we got was that stupid nextgen update to FO4 that added like 10 things & broke 10,000 mods

[hoary zodiac]

deltarune is the game he always wanted to make too so

[rancid juniper]

Not even a guess, it will happen

Far sooner too

[hoary zodiac]

undertale was just the prototype

[idle nexus]

I remember when next gen fo4 dropped & even F4SE broke

sad day

[dense locust]

im excited to play ch 3 and 4 on switch 2

[misty sparrow]

I remember when next gen fo4 dropped on PS5 and everybody who got it from that Founder's PS+ pack on PS5 had to wait weeks after to get it

[idle nexus]

they still haven't restored all the features on X-Cell

[misty sparrow]

like myself

[idle nexus]

have you played Fallout: London?

[rancid juniper]

Seriously though, these AAA companies gotta learn to idk split up their workforce so that they can make smaller scale projects to fill up that long year gap

It's atrocious by how much time games are made

[dense locust]

no but i play fallout 76

[hoary zodiac]

they should make new ips

[rancid juniper]

Absolutely but they're too scared to dip their toes in

[idle nexus]

Fallout: London is freaking amazing imo. Maybe it's because I've played the regular game so many times, but honestly I feel like it's better than vanilla FO4

[lone mango]

@idle nexus So why do you run 1.25? Does higher voltages create instability for vddio

[rancid juniper]

It's usually AA or indie devs to push new IPs

[hoary zodiac]

funny because that's what they said about the first elder scrolls

[misty sparrow]

first elder scrolls had a world nearly the size of Russia

[dense locust]

didnt the new update also screw them over

[idle nexus]

DDR5 is fast enough that too much or too little voltage will mess up signal integrity

[rancid juniper]

Imagine remaking that...

☠️

[misty sparrow]

that'd be easy because it was a pregenerated world instead of a handmade one

[rancid juniper]

Ram req: 128gb

[idle nexus]

FOLON comes with an auto downgrading thing

[hoary zodiac]

with nothing in it

[misty sparrow]

still bigger than Starfield

[rancid juniper]

Classic Bethesda design

[dense locust]

most open worlds by design are empty

[hoary zodiac]

probably still more depth than the modern bethesda game

[idle nexus]

you have to log into your steam account on it & it does it all for you. If you're not cool with logging in with Steam account on 3rd party thing like that tho, the website explains what to do

[hoary zodiac]

bethesda loves dumbing down their "RPGS"

imagine making the best RPG

[misty sparrow]

best of all

[hoary zodiac]

and then turn the sequels into not rpgs

[misty sparrow]

first and second elder scrolls are free on steam anyway

[rancid juniper]

Rn?

[misty sparrow]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

[idle nexus]

you have to download GOG in order to install FOLON

[hoary zodiac]

is it perm free

[misty sparrow]

yes

[rancid juniper]

Sigh I'll buy it but probably won't play it

[hoary zodiac]

like on the marketplace

[misty sparrow]

they are literally free to keep

[idle nexus]

https://fallout4london.com/

[dense locust]

i have so many free games on gog i wont ever play

[rancid juniper]

I feel that

My epic library is way too bloated

[idle nexus]

you need to have either Steam version of FO4 or GOG version

[hoary zodiac]

I should add more people to my minecraft server

[idle nexus]

sometimes it's a bit of a pain in the ass to get working

[rancid juniper]

Birmingham DLC included?

[idle nexus]

but latest FOLON version has Buffout4 preinstalled by default

[misty sparrow]

if you're not given a knife at the start of Fallout London it isn't a true London experience