Cl14 is pretty low tbf
#general-chat
worn wave
past jasper
MT/s is not the only thing that matters, latency does too.
silk sonnet
$450 without the gpu
past jasper
What if I told you that the 5800x3d doesn't have ddr5
Which is why it can't be used
12900k has both
Early ddr5 was unstable and not as good as 3200 cl14 ram
silk sonnet
I just really need a cheaper gpu
past jasper
They have it in the 12900k benchmarks. It's the same results
5% win in this game
Sir, go look up DDR4 videos. 3200 cl14 is very fast for DDR4.
It's better than DDR5 6000 cl32
You don't know what you're talking about
Respectfully
You don't even know what XMP vs tuned is.
Okay and do you know how much gains RAM OC gets?
And how can you possibly say it's not tuned from just seeing 3200 cl14.
You really need to stop repeating what you read
silk sonnet
3070 is way cheaper than 3080
silk sonnet
@past jasper What do you think about a 3070?
pliant berry
Time to tune my 9900k
past jasper
<@175009084917940225> What do you think about a 3070?
Go for it if it's in your budget, they're $280 on eBay.
lone mango
Theres way more than just the first number
acoustic palm
Ok then go test that
lone mango
I think a gain that large is dependent on which title you are running but you will see gains regardless, and they get amplified when you are more cpu bound
Buildzoid says primaries dont matter
Its all in the numbers you dont see
Or mostly, at least
pliant berry
What is this argument
lone mango
It depends on your system configuration and the game. It probably is a one time thing yes but its still worth tinkering with
Idk im late to it
silk sonnet
How does a 3070 outperform a 4060
worthy meteor
XOC is completely separate from just ocing for something for daily lol
silk sonnet
Makes no sense
worthy meteor
How does a 3070 outperform a 4060
because Nvidia decided to cheap out :p
past jasper
How does a 3070 outperform a 4060
Because Nvidia stopped making sense after Ampere lol
lone mango
Pascal was a time to be remembered fr
pliant berry
Yeah I guess, it was just overshadowed but the constant stock issues
worthy meteor
Pascal was also kinda overshadowed by the first mining boom lol
pliant berry
Ye
worthy meteor
we have a good generation whenever we have a mining boom smh
pliant berry
Man, maybe instead of sprinting to catch a train I should’ve sat down for an hour and have a drink
silk sonnet
I assume there would be any gpu bundle deals or combos or whatever because of the shortage and tariffs?
past jasper
Weird, I go into the OC discord with enthusiasts and this is what they say
Pretty sure those people OC the GPU and CPU and RAM and claimed it was only RAM.
They do
Bro you are actually delusional
past jasper
You don't even gain 30% fps at 1080p low.
fresh timber
ycruncher, yes y cruncher can gain 30%
pliant berry
There are so many factors that play into it. I think maybe its possible when all the stars align, but generally speaking no you probably won’t see those gains in your average game
past jasper
just an FYI this is saying "tuned" it's including the CPU
back in 9900k days you could actually tune your CPU and see real results
It's not just the RAM, it's the CPU, GPU and the RAM
The RAM you might see low single digits of perf gain.
So you tried to argue it was the RAM when it was the CPU and GPU giving most of the results 
so disingenuous
lone mango
So its ram and cpu 
past jasper
No it wouldn't, even XOCers say you should focus on GPU and CPU
pliant berry
You mean you don’t oc your mobo?
past jasper
bro +400 mhz memory clock on GPU, +300 mhz on CPU and 2.4 ns on RAM and you think the RAM only is why he gained 30% fps
pliant berry
Alright we don’t need to keep hanging on this
lone mango
You can see the z they are both 10k
past jasper
anyways 9900k was known for being a beast overclocker and gaining real results
and you think its the ram 💀
fresh timber
chat
what software would you use to backup files from one drive to another, i wanna setup my documents folder to just copy over to my nas everynight
fresh timber
and you think its the ram 💀
i gained more performance tuning my ram than i did shoving 1.4v down my cpu and running 5.6ghz
past jasper
9900k could hit 5.4 GHz pretty consistently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ev6gRPP1lk
past jasper
fresh timber
ram tuning isnt all about speed
past jasper
lone mango
We out here returning cpus fr
frigid stag
Again xmp
past jasper
The goal posts keep moving
lone mango
True
fresh timber
tuned ddr4 will/can tune beat untuned ddr5
frigid stag
Nothing new
fresh timber
my xmp was SOOO loose
pliant berry
9900k could hit 5.4 GHz pretty consistently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ev6...
I really should oc my 9900k before I upgrade
lone mango
For some reason I dont want to sell my 6600
fresh timber
keep it
past jasper
fresh timber
rx6600 is like a $140 crd anyways
past jasper
2 fps average more
lone mango
I always sell/trade in everything
fresh timber
did he tune the ram 🤔
lone mango
rx6600 is like a $140 crd anyways
Its more surprisingly
past jasper
It's tuned b-die ram
fresh timber
cool
fresh timber
dont put words in my mouth
past jasper
the goal posts are being moved
pliant berry
I don’t want to sell my gpu either, besides what is there even to upgrade to 
fresh timber
I gained tripple the 1% lows when i tuned my ram 
i went from 30fps lows to 90fps lows when i tuned my ram
lone mango
Yeah
fresh timber
x3d doesnt care if ur room is poo
fresh timber
because we understand how components fuction and you dont?
goal post keep movin with this one
past jasper
bro the xocers say you're wrong, real benchmarks say you are wrong
fresh timber
bro the xocers say you're wrong, real benchmarks say you are wrong
real benchmarks arnt xocers
lone mango
now it's only non 3d ryzen you get gains
It was always like that tho, because with the extra cache, less calls are made to ram
worthy meteor
@past jasper Found what I was looking for, bit of an old article, up to 30% in very specific cases, more like 0-10% in most cases
https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/intel-ram-oc-impact
pliant berry
Guys.. this isn’t reddit. We aren’t in a competition to see who is wrong. Friendly open discussion here only
fresh timber
I will put this out, i did get like 200% gains in my 1% lows tuning my ram
somber skiff
Weird, I go into the OC discord with enthusiasts and this is what they say
If ROC is an xoc discord, cracker barrel is a 3 star michelin restaurant
past jasper
they test games too
fresh timber
they will run the most unstable ahh oc just for the higher performance for like 5 mins
worthy meteor
If ROC is an xoc discord, cracker barrel is a 3 star michelin restaurant
whoa what do you have against cracker barrel
fresh timber
whoa what do you have against cracker barrel
fr
pliant berry
I have nightmares about cracker barrel
fresh timber
xoc goes for the extreme 1% chances of things working
fr
bench stable
this ram kit performs bad until i tune it
past jasper
that's most people
fresh timber
it defaulted to gear 2 🤮 performance was still. good at gear two
fresh timber
somber skiff
gaming
fresh timber
i gained more than 30% tho
in helldivers 2 i went from 90fps 30fps 1% lows to 90fps 85-90 1% lows
:))
one of my kits is Bdie but its poo bdie and wont shove past 3400mt/s
worthy meteor
*gaming*
do you know if seby has ever gamed with any of the ram frequency world record attempts?
somber skiff
Nobody would do that lol
somber skiff
We run single stick, subchannel disabled, and high timings to try and boot near 12k, then bclk up in OS
fresh timber
funny, i have corsair ram that run a very simiar timing but at 3200mt
worthy meteor
found it, it was just a promotional thing
https://youtu.be/paD8ZUPDFSY
fresh timber
you want some cl16 20 20 38
somber skiff
Or..
fresh timber
or 18 22 22 42
worthy meteor
We run single stick, subchannel disabled, and high timings to try and boot near ...
guess that's what you end up having to do to get 12000 or so to boot lol
guessing anything but cpuz would probably crash
somber skiff
I meant POST, but everyone in the community will say boot when they mean post and "boot to OS" when they mean boot
worthy meteor
fair
tranquil pebble
What do you think Crucial Pro 48 GB sticks will tune to? Two of them.
somber skiff
So DR H24M?
fresh timber
@frigid stag i have four ddr4 corsair ram sticks, if I had to make a new build what parts would u go for
idk if i would go cheap am4 or cheal lga1700
thinking the ame thing
in my opinion lga1700 has bettre upgrade path, id rather 14900k over 5800x3d
14700k or 7800x3d new platform 🤔
acoustic palm
14700k or 7800x3d *new platform* 🤔
Don’t you have ddr4 lga
fresh timber
quok shut up
o thank god i thought u said microcenter bundle
i was about to murder you
fresh timber
Don’t you have ddr4 lga
yeah idc about ddr4
acoustic palm
i was about to murder you
Smh smh brokie
fresh timber
ram doent feel slow to me
ever sense i upgraded it iv been chilling
i cant wait to retire my lga1700 platform, 13600kf in a 2nd rig would go crazy
platform wont be upgraded any time soon unforuntly, most ill do is a new cpu
acoustic palm
i cant wait to retire my lga1700 platform, 13600kf in a 2nd rig would go crazy
Ngl if you don’t change platform don’t change cpu
tranquil pebble
Ngl if you don’t change platform don’t change cpu
idk, 3700x to 5700x3d was worth
i would not upgrade within the same gen though
fresh timber
Ngl if you don’t change platform don’t change cpu
No
I want a Igpu I’m tired of not having one
Upgrading within the same gen is fine the
Like 7500f to 7800x3d
tranquil pebble
Upgrading within the same gen is fine the
it is fine, but it is less than ideal IMO
fresh timber
13600kf to 14900ks, all depends on what u do
acoustic palm
idk, 3700x to 5700x3d was worth
I mean for him
fresh timber
it is fine, but it is less than ideal IMO
I think a 7500f to a 7800x3d would be more than ideal
I upgrade when ever something feels slow, rn that being my gpu
CPU is only cause I want quick sync lmfao
Ima stream this summer
pliant berry
Arc a310
fresh timber
N o
pliant berry
Cheap low power addition for quicksync
fresh timber
It is not recommended by OBS
fresh timber
I’d have to see if it will even fit when I do my 9070xt and vertical mount upgrade lmfao
pliant berry
I mean intel has really nice encoders but isn’t it better to use the gpu that is playing the game for obs to avoid overhead?
pliant berry
Can that do Cyberpunk 2077 at 8K patchtracing in VR?
Umm.. yes
pliant berry
Second pc, cpu encode ez
fresh timber
I didn’t have issues with quick sync, it’s not like it’s using more pcie bandwidth compared to dual gpu
lone mango
There is still overhead for obs. At least for recording idk about streaming
fresh timber
Second pc, cpu encode ez
I quit that idea for a few reason, I have usb audio I don’t wanna deal with
pliant berry
Pretty sure you can just send the desktop audio through the hdmi
dense locust
It does
lone mango
True
fresh timber
Pretty sure you can just send the desktop audio through the hdmi
but not to your headset and hdmi at the same time
pliant berry
Only audiophiles use external speakers
Bruh
worn night
who spoke of intel gpu
pliant berry
but not to your headset and hdmi at the same time
Why not? I split audio paths all the time
fresh timber
I also don’t feel like dealing with the fact I use a USB mic that will not work with two pcs at once,
fresh timber
Why not? I split audio paths all the time
I bet you use software which adds overhead
dense locust
Most people use the trash speakers that come with the tv
pliant berry
Sometimes software, sometimes hardware channels
pliant berry
Most people use the trash speakers that come with the tv
My parents did that… but they had external speakers too. They just didn’t know how to hook up everything properly
fresh timber
We use the TVs
Why? We barley use our tv
My mom bought a nice tv just to say: nah you can’t use the living room
pliant berry
I only use tv if I want surround and to lay down
fresh timber
I would have made a HTPC too
I have a tv in my room that’s 1080p slop
When I get the 9070xt ima try 4k frfr
Somebody help me justify a itx pc
lone mango
Efficient use of space and easy to move
While retaining most functionality
You'll lose an m.2 or two, but depending on the case you choose you can still have additional sata drives
fresh timber
I need to downsize my nas, main rig will always be big, I like my 2nd rig to me small
lone mango
Nr200 has two 2.5 mounts but you can make it 4 by pushing out the ssds a little bit to make space for ssds on the other sides of the grommets
tranquil pebble
wonder how long it would take to download all of Steam over dial up
lone mango
Acutally make that 5 because there is a mount on the power supply mount too
proud jackal
WHERE IS 5090
sinful blade
I am thinking about death
hoary zodiac
Have you tried rice?
tranquil pebble
Civic owners be like
dense locust
Does it work if you short the pins directly?
dense locust
So does that mean the Pc won’t boot?
Is something shorting the pc
Is anything getting power at all?
velvet summit
sinful blade
Is anything getting power at all?
Not that I can tell
It’s only been a few days since the PSU has been used
dense locust
Hard to diagnose without extra parts
I expect it’s either a short or the psu just decided to kick the bucket
dense locust
8gb will make this become outdated fast
heavy furnace
8gb will make this become outdated fast
can you find me one for me? one that works @fresh timber or @dense locust
dense locust
can you find me one for me? one that works <@929166408930189362> or <@103969212...
What’s your budget
sinful blade
<@423224499849134081>
No
royal crow
more of a theoretical coding/creation question, but I've noticed something when playing minecraft java, specifically ith shaders. that being, that there is no way to see reflections behind you, or really outside of your FOV at all.(this doesn't apply to the Bedrock RTX thing, but i do not care about nor wish to play it.) the question, then, is: is it possible to render things outside of your fov without showing them? is this even practically possible?
worn wave
Depends on your definition of render maybe? If you can't see it on screen is it really being rendered?
Or do you mean "there's no way to see reflections of objects behind you"?
worn wave
The shaders are likey using screen-space reflections
royal crow
i think so
royal crow
You can try rtx shaders
me no has rtx🗿
heavy furnace
What’s your budget
for a video card, 400-450$
dense locust
for a video card, 400-450$
I’d say wait for 9060xt 16g
worn wave
this
Honestly idk lol. I know screenspace reflections only show what's already on screen but idk if you can like spoof things behind you
That might be cubemaps but idrk
royal crow
yeah
royal crow
wait seus ptgi is rt?
dense locust
yes it had an rt version
royal crow
ofc it is nvm im dumb
royal crow
hm
royal crow
and that has... idk what to call it... back reflection?
royal crow
Intel Xe Graphics🔥
royal crow
sure why not
dense locust
E12 is full
HRR is half resolution
dense locust
Lmao
fresh timber
i want unlimted money, id buy a 9060xt and 9070xt
royal crow
yeah bwoi
dense locust
“Playable”
royal crow
juuuust barely
dense locust
1080p?
frigid stag
Bloatware
lone mango
Yeah uninstalling it
frigid stag
Getting a real gpu helps I heard 
royal crow
Getting a real gpu helps I heard <:kekw:741678350791081994>
integrated graphics superiorioty squad
dw ik exactly what i want
worn night
Did anyone else notice the new graphs https://www.zachstechturf.com/gpucomparisons
topaz crownBOT
zach's computer is slow
royal crow
zach's computer is slow
zach's mods kicked this man out of his dsc]
topaz crownBOT
zach's computer is slow
royal crow
wha
lone mango
Doubled down
royal crow
zach
topaz crownBOT
zach's computer is slow
dense locust
Zech
proud jackal
I don't like this new android update
royal crow
which one
royal crow
What mod pack
shaders💀
acoustic palm
Oh. 265k and what I’m assuming is no gpu
royal crow
SEUS PTGI
royal crow
Oh wait wtf when did it become 11pm
i now know what time zone you live in
royal crow
is it on modrinth?
royal crow
it pretty
icy ore
royal crow
got the end black hole🔥🔥🔥🔥
hoary zodiac
devout forum
Okay so 7900XTX used prices dropped, now it's 300k for that vs 307k for 4080
Market seems a little volatile rn
dusk knot
just get the 4080
devout forum
Yeah that's what I thought
dusk knot
then OC the crap out of it
devout forum
XTX would need to be a good bit cheaper to be better value right?
dusk knot
yeah
sinful blade
It might be my PSU
dusk knot
im not familar with your currency, but a 7k diff doesnt look like much
devout forum
Though the 4080 I can get for that much isn't exactly a card built for OC
dusk knot
hm
dusk knot
model?
devout forum
Uh
I'd need to be on PC
But IIRC it's a Gainward one
Absolutely baskc reference one
At least even reference is good with 40 series
honest birch
random osprey
craggy shoal
CHEESE FOR EVERYONE
misty sparrow
8bitdo, what a throwback been a while since i've heard about them
hoary zodiac
lone mango
https://youtu.be/wA_jroxKpao
Meanwhile kde weather
misty sparrow
did you all see the pewdiepie linux video
lone mango
Yeah
lone mango
Ehhh too cluttered
misty sparrow
crazy how a guy that isn't a techie uses arch linux
lone mango
He uses mint
misty sparrow
somebody said he used arch, didnt watch the video though
craggy shoal
Having a degree in cybersecurity means that I don't want Windows to have my location when I open the weather app
lone mango
Yeah for kde weather you just type in the city and thats it
hoary zodiac
I use arch because I can customise it to my workflow
lone mango
I think thats another way of them trying to get to ya but disguise it as weather
hoary zodiac
I'm so much more productive on arch
craggy shoal
I paid for Windows (not really, but ya know). Why do I have ads?
lone mango
I paid for Windows (not really, but ya know). Why do I have ads?
Those who know: 
hoary zodiac
This is why you never pay for windows
craggy shoal
Those who know: <:pieskull:1278810686289477683>
GitHub is an amazing tool lol
lone mango
Those who row: 🏴☠️
frigid stag
There’s already a Linux version like it
hoary zodiac
Ehhhhhh
frigid stag
Zorin os
hoary zodiac
To be fair if you need windows you need windows
frigid stag
It looks like windows and has some of the basic stuff
hoary zodiac
Well the thing is
misty sparrow
They make you pay
in order to help you pay for Windows they included a special feature. Ctrl + Shift + Win + Alt + L
hoary zodiac
Looking like windows isn't really good enough tbh
lone mango
Bro put in the linked in shortcut
hoary zodiac
KDE does that really well
lone mango
hoary zodiac
In fact I'd say KDE is better than windows in terms of UX
craggy shoal
in order to help you pay for Windows they included a special feature. Ctrl + Shi...
I know what you're referring to but it doesn't work for me 💀 Probably because of how I installed Windows lol
misty sparrow
i still use windows because unlike linux all my stuff worked out of the box
hoary zodiac
It's so customisable
lone mango
Try it again
frigid stag
Looking like windows isn't really good enough tbh
Ye the stats show it too
hoary zodiac
i still use windows because unlike linux all my stuff worked out of the box
I use linux because unlike windows all my stuff works
hoary zodiac
This is a perfect example of use cases
If it works it works
We're really getting to the point of
Windows being so broken than Linux can really "just work" better
misty sparrow
i wanted to use linux to play my games but most of my games required so much tinkering to do things i wanted to do on linux, things that windows did better
hoary zodiac
Depends on the specifics but Microsoft is screwing up so hard that it's actually a common scenario
lone mango
i wanted to use linux to play my games but most of my games required so much tin...
How long ago was this
hoary zodiac
Well to be fair
frigid stag
hoary zodiac
Sometimes windows just works
misty sparrow
a few months
frigid stag
Thoughts? 🤔
hoary zodiac
It depends heavily on use case
misty sparrow
like for example Epic Games Store isn't supported on linux so I had to use an alternative launcher for them, and some games wouldn't work with that launcher because they needed EGS authentication, like GTAV
hoary zodiac
GTA V is broken on steam too
dense locust
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-m...
this mean nvidia's is written 100% by ai
misty sparrow
Lutris has never worked for me so obviously I tossed that out
misty sparrow
GTA V is broken on steam too
this was before Battleye anticheat update
hoary zodiac
Rockstar unironically broke GTA on linux
lone mango
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-m...
Probably lying or was told some false metric
frigid stag
I wouldn’t be surprised tbh
misty sparrow
the thing is with GTAV on Epic, whenever I tried launching the game on Linux, Rockstar's awful launcher thought I didn't own the game and refused to start it
really had to dig on the internet to fix that issue
frigid stag
Clearly they don’t care about latency
misty sparrow
at least I can say I did try Linux
hoary zodiac
I use Linux because it gives me less headaches than Windows
dense locust
how tf did microsoft mess up w11 so badlyt
frigid stag
Windows 11 looks like it’s for for the 4k 60 vsync users who run 64gb and tell you to “just deal with it and buy better hardware” and have like 30 apps in the task tray running
hoary zodiac
Money
dense locust
i thought it was just w10
lone mango
Corpo slop
lone mango
Windows 11 looks like it’s for for the 4k 60 vsync users who run 64gb and tell y...
Very true
hoary zodiac
Windows 11 isn't the product
misty sparrow
win11 is actually pretty okay once you remove the bloat and tracking features
hoary zodiac
YOU are the product
hoary zodiac
win11 is actually pretty okay once you remove the bloat and tracking features
Yeah (Windows 10)
dense locust
why am i the product for $100-$200 software
hoary zodiac
why am i the product for $100-$200 software
Corporate greed
misty sparrow
some games on win11 run better than win10 so i think i'll stick to my debloated windows 11
lone mango
why am i the product for $100-$200 software
Cuz
dense locust
misty sparrow
why am i the product for $100-$200 software
The Matrix (1999)
hoary zodiac
Sadly Windows 7 isn't supported anymore
dense locust
Do i just keep windows 10 and pay the $30 per year?
misty sparrow
oh, the fee to keep getting security updates on windows 10?
hoary zodiac
They're charging money for an older product? Hello?
royal crow
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-m...
This explains quite a bit😂
lone mango
Gpu passthrough vmm windows 10 vm
misty sparrow
well to be fair they did this with the US military a decade ago since their stuff was still on WinXP
not sure if it still is
lone mango
They're charging money for an older product? Hello?
Incentive to update
hoary zodiac
Yeah but we don't have the Us military budget
nocturne flicker
They're charging money for an older product? Hello?
They saw how popular their old OS is and decided to steal charge for extra updates
They did the same thing for Windows 7
hoary zodiac
I'd rather donate to wine development
I'd donate $100 to wine devs out of pure spite
lone mango
"upgrade"
nocturne flicker
Except Windows 7 the update program was limited to Pro and Enterprise editions
This time around they extended it to Home users too
lone mango
When you go to the terminal and it says windows 10.8
misty sparrow
I'd rather donate to wine development
Honestly the real solution is to disable feature updates and only install security updates wrong reply
lone mango
hoary zodiac
Honestly the real solution is to disable feature updates and only install securi...
Nah
Oh lol
misty sparrow
discord chat jumps so much i clicked the wrong message
hoary zodiac
Why is windows so bloated
frigid stag
by historical logic windows 12 should be the better windows update
Hopefully
hoary zodiac
Who tf are they paying
lone mango
My 9600x bundle came in yesterday
hoary zodiac
FOSS is simply better
hoary zodiac
KDE barely takes any memory
nocturne flicker
Never going to be this good again
lone mango
Im gonna install it and see if you really have to reinstall w10 with am5
hoary zodiac
Whoever programmed the UI is on crack
The UI does NOT need to use so much resources
misty sparrow
i don't know why windows uses nearly half the memory at all times
dense locust
unused ram is wasted ram
or something
dense locust
thats also only gamers
misty sparrow
even if they wanted to upgrade to win11 some people cant do it because of TPM requirement
dense locust
i imagine a lot of old business systems still run windows 10
lone mango
Or hardware is just too old
hoary zodiac
yet it's running butter smooth
nocturne flicker
About 3 or so percent of desktops are still using Windows 7 iirc
lone mango
The hardware bypass is getting more sketch
dense locust
microsoft locked a lot of pcs out with the tmp requirement
misty sparrow
dont know what the hell those graphs mean but i can vouch for linux running buttery smooth on just about anything
hoary zodiac
microsoft has no excuse
hoary zodiac
dont know what the hell those graphs mean but i can vouch for linux running butt...
even on hard drives
nocturne flicker
It was like, 11% before they ended the upgrade subscription program a couple years ago iirc
misty sparrow
i ran linux off a thumb drive the size of a mouse dongle
hoary zodiac
the fact that linux is semi-usable on hdds
misty sparrow
buttery smooth
even if i ran GTAV on that mouse dongle drive it still ran mostly fine
hoary zodiac
that's the thing about linux
dense locust
too bad i wont ever use linux
hoary zodiac
If it works it works
lone mango
Whats cool about lenovo laptops is that they let you buy it with linux installed and its at a lower cost than windows
dense locust
windows without the bloat would work so well
hoary zodiac
the funny thing is that the NT kernel is actually pretty solid
We need open source NT
like it'd be a net positive
even for microsoft
lone mango
We need open source NT
Absolutely proprietary
dense locust
why are they formatted like how mac does it
lone mango
Wym
misty sparrow
why did you add transparency to all the windows
hoary zodiac
I'm a linux user
of the arch variety too
The whole point of arch is to customise the hell out of everything
so that's what I did
all this is two config files btw
~/.config/hypr/Hyprland.conf and ~/.config/waybar/style.css
I do need a windows vm on this thing tho
or maybe I'll just use my other laptop
My SSD with windows died so
🤷♂️
Haven't bothered to reinstall
You know what....
I might get a mini pc and run a remote windows vm
lone mango
Why not use vmm
hoary zodiac
Well the thing is
lone mango
You can do gpu passthrough with it
hoary zodiac
It does have advantages
Like running a blender render
Saves on battery life
When I'm not at home
I have the infrastructure already
hoary zodiac
And plus
I could remote into it on any of my computers
Including my phone
Plus it's an excuse for me to spend a lot of money on a computer
lone mango
hoary zodiac
Does blender work with QSV?
Ryzen is cheap but I don't want Ryzen
Damn
I wonder if Ryzen work with intel gpus
not sure how the linux drivers are for running intel dgpus
lone mango
They a little iffy
hoary zodiac
tbh I'm leaning towards ryzen
for lower power consumption
plus better used market
lone mango
Does blender work with QSV?
You doing video encoding?
lone mango
So idk why but for some reason my encoder wont be used for playback
Which is different
But still weird that it uses 3d instead
hoary zodiac
do you have ffmpeg
lone mango
Windows on my laptop forced me into doing updates
Showed the shut off/restart and update
hoary zodiac
windows moment
lone mango
Tried to get around it by holding the power button and turning it on so I can go to boot override
Then it boots really fast and updates
hoary zodiac
reee
no ryzen 7 aliexpress bundles
I mean there's zen 4
but I don't want zen 4
there's this I guess
lone mango
Page doesnt work
hoary zodiac
oh that's JUST the motherboard
lone mango
hoary zodiac
these ryzen bundles are making me want to buy skylake
ah yes I want a cardboard box
wraith fern
hoary zodiac
screw it
gonna look for coffee lake
ngl this is actually good
ooo they do mini pcs too
I do want the SFF for 3.5" tho
my nas gets choked by the 32 bit cpu so
lone mango
So ffmpeg is installed
lone mango
Yeah I have nothing open besides discord and updating rn
hoary zodiac
Onlyoffice, a bunch of chromium tabs spread out across two windows, a bunch of librewolf tabs spread out across 3 windows
5.82GB
windows uses more idle
wtf
i5 coffee lake is so cheap
lone mango
a380
hoary zodiac
that cpu bottlenecks the hell out of the transfer speeds
every time there is an NFS operation the cpu jumps to 100%
the 4570T is a mini pc so
couldn't fit a 3.5" there
lone mango
hoary zodiac
plus
the better single thread would help me run a minecraft server
and the 2 extra cores will help me run vms and stuff
lone mango
Very true
hoary zodiac
coffee lake is the sweet spot in the market where it's dirt cheap
because there's just so much enterprise machines getting dumped
hoary zodiac
I could also run the 4570T alongside the 8500 as well
Mini pcs are great
Haswell still good
I decked out my mini pc with 16GB of ram
It was a brand new DDR3 kit
lone mango
This is random but would cl32 6400 and cl26 6000 perform the same in games
I think they would be quite close
hoary zodiac
honestly the CL26 might be better
For games
I really want something cheap and compact with 2 drive bays cuz I got 2 8TBs
I suppose I'll just use the second HDD as a backup
On the crappy nas
Can't have both small AND cheap
Now I just need to find $200 from somewhere
worn wave
This is random but would cl32 6400 and cl26 6000 perform the same in games
Ram latency is (cas*2000) / data rate. So the 6000cl26 is 8.667ns and 6400cl32 is 10ns
lone mango
So a little better then
worn wave
I believe latency is more important than speed for gaming, not completely sure
dusk knot
@rancid juniper I think im a pro Mr.F 🤔
dusk knot
storm was nerfed to the ground
dusk knot
him and emma are my mains
hoary zodiac
UHD630 supports HEVC right?
I know my Haswell doesn't
The coffee lake also has a DVD drive which is a huge bonus
would prefer blu ray tho
these things are stupid expensive for some reason
the Japanese are obsessed with blu ray still for some reason
most of the blu ray stuff are shipped from japan
velvet summit
the Japanese are obsessed with blu ray still for some reason
The same country that still somewhat widely continued to use floppy disks until like 2020
Not even
It took till 2024
hoary zodiac
You'd think BD drives would be cheaper in 2025
But no
Why tf are they so expensive
elfin mural
velvet summit
velvet summit
Why tf are they so expensive
I think the issue is that they never took off
Especially with it being iffy on windows
lone mango
Well thats with 12 5090s
So like a few pounds of gold idk
I am actually surprised its not worse tbh
Looks like normies can still get away with like 8 character passwords if they have different types of characters in there
hoary zodiac
What if said hackers have access to a couple qbits
velvet summit
Work makes me do 12+ characters with caps, numbers and characters
unsecure
only 3 billion years to crack
hoary zodiac
Don't give North Korea a quantum computer
deep parcel
https://www.rxddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/yJTvO4bPAn
my passwords are pretty secure then...
pliant berry
Blu ray is kind of awesome
opaque sedge
I only got the game 10 days ago 💀 😭
devout forum
Yo guys
pliant berry
No
devout forum
So we know that PCIE Gen5 SSDs don't actually have a noticable uplift in everyday use
against Gen4
But is the same true to Gen3 against Gen4?
devout forum
cuz gen3 can still do 3000 megs a sec
for writes
3500 for reads
for a game drive?
I mean that's probably fast enough
fresh timber
I’m in gen 3
devout forum
I'd wanna go for a Gen5 boot drive (SOLELY for the meme of it)
and keep a 4tb Gen3 for a boot drive
devout forum
and it's probably close in speed to a Gen5
pliant berry
Actually I think my 2 nvme drives are gen 4 but i only got gen3 slots
cedar compass
I have 4x 4tb
and 20tb external hdd for backup
my 18tb drive dead recently . i mean it's Nas drive and were wroking in box but somehow it's dead when I put it into my PC lol
have no clue what I did wrong lmao
pliant berry
Did you hotplug it? Or was it like a sas instead of sata drive?
worn night
HDDs are actually goated for storage when they're not being used by windows 🤣
pliant berry
Oh for sure
worn night
Oh for sure
I have a gen 3 1tb nvme, what will upgrading to a gen 4 feel like
pliant berry
Suffering
unreal trail
devout forum
https://hardverapro.hu/apro/mini_itx_konfig_elado_4/friss.html
That is actually a sick rig
7700 in an A620i Gaming Phantom, NH-L12S 2×16 6000CL30 Gskill, 7800 XT Pulse, SF850, 1tb Kingston of unknown spec
for 490k HUF (1375 USD)
icy ore
Looks like an air filter
worn night
royal crow
huh
royal crow
imagine'
cedar compass
Did you hotplug it? Or was it like a sas instead of sata drive?
it's toshiba Mg09 
it was working in box for awhile and I decided put it in PC and broke it lmao
dusk knot
Hm
cedar compass
isn't nas hdds work in pc ? 
dusk knot
Nani
pliant berry
Ye a drive is a drive but some nas use sas interface. Servers with sas controllers can use either sas or sata but desktops pretty much exclusively use sata controllers which will not work with sas drives
hoary zodiac
Don't sas me
pliant berry
Lol
hoary zodiac
tfw all my hardware uses sata
pliant berry
Your drive apparently has different versions for both interfaces. But I don’t think attempting to put a sas drive on a sata controller would kill it anyway
hoary zodiac
I drool when I see all the cheap sas drives on ebay
pliant berry
I was thinking of expanding my nas but backups are getting really expensive and my nas still has a cpu problem I can’t quite figure out
hoary zodiac
I'm thinking of replacing my nas entirely
I got a 32 bit cpu
NFS is enough to choke that thing to death
pliant berry
Tbh I might get something with lower power consumption and simpler and use this system for experimenting
hoary zodiac
I have to move files via usb
Really tempted to get a coffee lake sff
Cheapest 6 core I could find
pliant berry
Maybe I use my 9900k for a nas when I upgrade my personal rig lol
hoary zodiac
Cheapest that doesn't use up a crap load of power that is
hoary zodiac
Maybe I use my 9900k for a nas when I upgrade my personal rig lol
Honestly you could underclock and undervolt it a bit
pliant berry
Yeah
hoary zodiac
Coffee lake is really nice
Doesn't consume too much power
Cheap on the used market
pliant berry
I also have a few spare xeons laying around
pliant berry
Old ones, prob not very efficient
pliant berry
Wayer
hoary zodiac
Really tempted to get an optiplex
And then replace the fan with a noctua
For a quiet nas
Oh wait it's got no rear fans
Probably gotta settle for a cpu cooler replacement
Something like this tbh
Wtf this thing's really tall
This would be more reasonable
pliant berry
I actually have like 3 or 4 retired optiplex systems
royal crow
dead flipping chat
rancid juniper
Imma mod my laptop cpu's microcode to an older version to see if i can unlock undervolting
battery life on that laptop is so trash
royal crow
someone re-alive chat
rigid sinew
good morning frens
frosty sinew
royal crow
good morning frens
sup
dusk knot
i still have a couple weeks💀
Rip
cedar compass
Your drive apparently has different versions for both interfaces. But I don’t th...
I have no clue which controller does it have but when I install it to PC it giving noise something looks like beeping . And it's getting pretty warm
PC not booting too lol . It prevents PC booting
royal crow
ur literally cooked
cursive oasis
Does anyone know how long this deal lasts?
rigid sinew
Does anyone know how long this deal lasts?
what store
cursive oasis
Newegg
rigid sinew
send me the item number
rigid sinew
you don't recognize your own UI?
no i dont use the app
rigid sinew
let me check- one sec
cursive oasis
I just need to know if it'll still be a thing tomorrow
cedar compass
it's been over a month this cpu with ssd deal lasts lol
tranquil pebble
There's a Teto on the ceiling
royal crow
There's a Teto on the ceiling
grammarly💀
tranquil pebble
grammarly💀
not my pic lol
I do not install many browser addons. Mostly just userscript manager and adblock
worn wave
is there really anything else like grammarly though?
Paying attention in school + the builtin MSword/Gdocs checkers
And then I'll occasionally use AI to proofread important emails
misty sparrow
sometimes the msword/gdocs checkers show no grammatical mistakes but then I open Grammarly and it finds a bunch somehow
tranquil pebble
And then I'll occasionally use AI to proofread important emails
that's going to backfire on you one day I feel like
worn wave
that's going to backfire on you one day I feel like
How so lol?
tranquil pebble
unless you are proofreading yourself too
worn wave
I'm not using AI to write it from scratch, I just paste it in and ask if there's any changes I should make to keep it professional sounding
tranquil pebble
yeah ik
worn wave
Yeah dw I wouldn't take ai output and use it anywhere without reading over it
tranquil pebble
just saying that LLM output has to be taken with a grain of salt
glad to know you're not one of the ones misusing the tool
worn wave
Tbh though the current premium models are really, really good compared to older / free models
tranquil pebble
it is still not something to blindly trust (though tbf neither are humans)
royal crow
Yay I re alived chat
rigid sinew
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-9600x-ryzen-5-9000-series-granite-ridge-socke...
it shows it ends 5/10 but if they run out sooner, it might end sooner
dense locust
it shows it ends 5/10 but if they run out sooner, it might end sooner
Slightly longer than a sec
lone mango
you got the deal for yourself?
Yeah then they dropped the price twice while it was shipping
They are issuing a partial refund rn
Price match refund whatever
Goodbye am4 
dense locust
Midm 4
lone mango
Served me very well
rigid sinew
Slightly longer than a sec
sorry i have deadlines for work 🙂
velvet summit
sinful blade
Update on my issues, my PSU is fine
My cpu might be the culprit
misty sparrow
Crazy
most impressive one is probably Crash because it looks similar to how they did the Sonic films
and that took whole teams to do
dusk knot
most impressive one is probably Crash because it looks similar to how they did t...
Even the motion is great
misty sparrow
the AI incorporated so many fine small details
the fingers are correct, the hair and ears move a bit when he moves his head
and just to think two to three years ago it couldn't get Will Smith eating spaghetti correctly
sinful blade
Update on my issues, my PSU is fine
My cpu might be the culprit
I’m going to try to put it into another motherboard, and if it doesn’t work, I’m boned
misty sparrow
oh wait it mostly got the fingers correct
brief moment where Crash's hands goes from four to five fingers. seems to be a common problem with AI
dusk knot
🤣
misty sparrow
a second motherboard?
proud jackal
sinful blade
Am4 is now out
Any plans for the am4 stuff?
chrome mirage
Someone has them Nvidia RTX wheels
lone mango
Any plans for the am4 stuff?
Most likely sell to recoup my losses
lone mango
a second motherboard?
Going am5
Its the same one if you saw a picture from a while ago idk
sinful blade
Most likely sell to recoup my losses
proud jackal
dusk knot
no way!
random osprey
decided to play on my racing sim after its been collecting dust for a minute and my games are borked, gotta reinstall every game
opaque sedge
@proud jackal @rancid juniper
rancid juniper
<@138867087526330369> <@255061019322351618>
nah... THATS FOUL
A violation even
😭
opaque sedge
nah... THATS FOUL
The frog was asking for it
opaque sedge
nah... THATS FOUL
Also the game gets real intense at times
rancid juniper
Also the game gets real intense at times
The arkveld makes the whole game cinematic alone
opaque sedge
The arkveld makes the whole game cinematic alone
That cinematic was causing frame drops like u wouldn’t believe 💀
opaque sedge
The weather changing system the day and night changing at the same time simultaneously it prolly would be demanding even if the game was optimized
royal crow
bro i got mvp all three times hehehe
opaque sedge
they never patched performance since launch?
Nah doesn’t seem like it, also… during that arkveld fight i had to change upscaling settings to performance mid battle cuz of the huge frame drops
rancid juniper
thats just sad
opaque sedge
It is but the gameplay is so damn fun and good that i could almost forgive capcom
silk sonnet
What’s a budget gpu for around 200 bucks or less(used)?
I’m currently thinking 2070 super or 3070
I want to go for the 2070 super, 3070 is slightly over budget. Any thoughts?
royal crow
arc b570
paper verge
silk sonnet
Where are you getting a 3070 for under 200 dollars?
worn night
I want to go for the 2070 super, 3070 is slightly over budget. Any thoughts?
Arc B570
Or a 6600 XT
worn night
Wdym oof