general-chat

[acoustic palm]

Vex

Look at new thermalright cooler

[fresh timber]

Buy

Where do I buy

[acoustic palm]

1s

https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120-digital-argb-black/

[acoustic palm]

The bigger one isn’t available

But the smaller one is 25$

[tranquil pebble]

There are multiple Peerless Assassins... which means it is not truly peerless

[acoustic palm]

Real

[lone mango]

There is a pa se v3 now

new fans and fin stack

[fresh timber]

i wanna get a new cpu cooler

i wanna get lcd aio for main rig, and a tower c ooler for nas

help me justify getting thist stuff for pure looks

[sinful blade]

Finally

[lone mango]

Looks kinda goofy

I prefer the simpler no rgb towers

[fresh timber]

ugh cloud do i do it

do i buy lcd aio

[lone mango]

From who

[fresh timber]

thermal right

vision

[dense locust]

Thermalwrong

[lone mango]

If thats 110 from thermalright we could only imagine how expensive it would be from someone else

[craggy shoal]

Thermalmaybe

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

they have $80 ones

but i dont wanna downgrade from a ls720 se

[dense locust]

$200+

[lone mango]

250

[fresh timber]

i want this but not for $279

[dense locust]

Can I put my slime girls on it?

[fresh timber]

https://a.co/d/59TZHBA

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

i lost all my am4 mouting for my aio

i cant even give my nas a 360mm aio if i wanted

[lone mango]

Bro what

it dont need that

[fresh timber]

but it can

if i get thi aio

i feel like this would have worst cooling idk

[lone mango]

For that system I dont think it would matter

[fresh timber]

i would put that in my main rig

13600kf

[lone mango]

Oh ok

[fresh timber]

curent aio im sitting at 71c full load

[lone mango]

Wow thats what I get with my mini dual tower with a single fan and PBO

That fella must be kicking out some heat fr

[fresh timber]

i pull 160w

wbu

[lone mango]

Bro I think i do like 60 max

65

Around there

Give or take a few

I pull like 50-60% of that when gaming though

[nocturne flicker]

Just do give up yes

[opaque sedge]

Got mhwilds ngl pretty fun

Runs like crap with dodgy textures here and there tho

U happy now dynobot?!

[idle nexus]

damn ig they can't just give it to you but this is close lol https://www.newegg.com/hp-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/0RN-000Z-00P46?Item=9SIARDJGJ84399

[frigid stag]

Damn I’m buying this tomorrow lol

[idle nexus]

bdie

[frigid stag]

Got me convinced

[idle nexus]

3200c14

[frigid stag]

Hopefully 4x8 should be good

[lone mango]

Do you know what die this is
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820374660?Item=N82E16820374660

[idle nexus]

I think I wanna like put together a 12100F/3060 12gb/z690 unify-x (cuz I don't have any worse LGA 1700 boards)/1tb m.2/6000csomething system & throw it on jawa

[frigid stag]

You can probably sell that motherboard alone for more

Cause jawa pc buyers are kind of the “budget baller” price to performance type

And don’t appreciate how good that board is for ram oc

[idle nexus]

I dunno what die that is but I know this is A-die cuz I have this kit & it'll POST 8600 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPHRVYX9?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_2

I almost wanna get a used Z690 for cheap & put it in there instead lol

[lone mango]

Ok so would I have to change subtimings if I change other timings or the speed of the ram

[idle nexus]

but then again, holding on to Unify-Xs is a stupid thing I do

I still have two Z590 Unify-Xs lol

[idle nexus]

it's like a blank canvas tbh. 46-46-46-96 is not good lol

depends on what the CPU can do more than anything

[lone mango]

Like if I copy buildzoid timings and change the speed for example

Does that throw everything out of whack

Same goes for primary timings

Because he says to not touch those

[idle nexus]

maybe like 8000c36-46-46

[lone mango]

He says leave it default, rather

[idle nexus]

ya like first you try to get the frequency then tighten

reduce the variables

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder when CPUs will start to take advantage of higher frequencies

[lone mango]

Next zen will

[hoary zodiac]

This is truly a kaby lake moment

[lone mango]

They finally gonna revamp the memory controllers

[hoary zodiac]

Where 2400MHz and 3600MHz has no difference whatsoever

[lone mango]

Nah ram does matter more than it used to

[frigid stag]

It does if it’s cpu bound/ in newer games

[lone mango]

Well up to a certain point at least

[frigid stag]

My friend has one and runs like 3800 or 4000. Something nuts like that

[hoary zodiac]

On a kaby lake?

[frigid stag]

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

How does that compare to something like 2400MHz

Or 2666

[frigid stag]

I mean it’s faster but idk by how much on that cpu

[hoary zodiac]

bruh

[frigid stag]

He also has like above 5ghz

Competes with newer 14nm cpus

Wait that’s the 1440

[hoary zodiac]

So nobody's actually benchmarked it

With newer titles

[frigid stag]

I mean there’s this but it’s in 1440

[hoary zodiac]

What is that supposed to be

[frigid stag]

It’ll do almost 240 fps at 5ghz

With 3200mts ram

[hoary zodiac]

Ok

But how does that show the difference between 3200MHz and sub-3000MHz memory

[lone mango]

Why is it that the terminal copy and paste shortcuts have shift thrown in there

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not saying you're wrong

I'm just saying that there's virtually no data with modern games

[frigid stag]

Nope he doesn’t show any slower ram

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I'll go off the 2017 data then

Kinda tempted to get an old kaby lake platform just to do some testing

[lone mango]

It didnt matter much back then

[hoary zodiac]

I believe that was what I said

[frigid stag]

There’s this i guess

From battlefield 1

[hoary zodiac]

What cpu?

[frigid stag]

7700k

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/D_Yt4vSZKVk

Here's an interesting one

The conclusion is, as always

Depends on the game

[frigid stag]

🤔

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/LjFu-onLA68

Same conclusion here

Although

When you compare it to the performance gains on Ryzen however

[frigid stag]

3200 to 4266*

[hoary zodiac]

That's not a kaby lake tho

[frigid stag]

Yea ik but it’s skylake sorta similar architecture

[hoary zodiac]

That's a 9900k

I thought it was coffee lake?

[frigid stag]

They’re all skylake based from 6 to 10 gen iirc

More cores and cache though

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

I wouldn't draw conclusions from a completely different data set

But it does shows that after kaby lake

Memory mattered a lot more

[frigid stag]

If it’s single core I don’t think 7700k would be too much different from this if they’re at the same clock speeds

[hoary zodiac]

Do... You have a source?

Not saying you're wrong

I just don't like making assumptions

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

What were we talking about again

Oh yeah I made a comparison to kaby lake

🥱

[lone mango]

Ram speeds affecting kaby lake performance

[hoary zodiac]

Not exactly

It was more

Modern cpus not being able to take advantages of higher ram speeds like kaby lake

[lone mango]

Nah they can and the difference between something really fast and something slower is larger now

[hoary zodiac]

higher as in

Past 6000 for Ryzen

[lone mango]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

I doubt Ryzen can really take advantage of 8000MHz ram

At least ryzen in its current state

[lone mango]

Its not very much but 8000 compared to 6000 does give a decent bump

[lone mango]

Not fully

[hoary zodiac]

But that's the whole point

[frigid stag]

Ye they’re pretty close in single core

[hoary zodiac]

The point is that doesn't scale as much as it should

[lone mango]

Thats changing though. But also arrow lake does scale

[hoary zodiac]

I feel like we agree

But we're not exactly on the same page

[lone mango]

True

So like it does scale but not a lot. However it is starting to scale more compared to say kaby lake

But really we'll see when zen 6 comes out

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's not supposed to be a 1:1 comparison

[frigid stag]

Depends on the cpu. For ryzen 6400 is peak for gaming usually

[hoary zodiac]

Just like how 8000mhz vs 6000mhz is not 1:1 to 2400mhz to 3200mhz

[lone mango]

Thing is that not all can run at 6400

[frigid stag]

Most can do it xmp I feel

[nocturne flicker]

I disagree, I think you are on the same page but they made the font wonky in between your two editions so you aren't reading the same text

[lone mango]

Nah some cant even go above 6000

[frigid stag]

As long as it has newer agesa

[hoary zodiac]

But is what you feel what actually is

[frigid stag]

It’s more of what I’ve seen, with people buying it and it working. But I don’t have any stats on it so it could be either way

[hoary zodiac]

See

I really want to believe you

[frigid stag]

It’s not a big sample size

[hoary zodiac]

But you gotta back up what you say

[frigid stag]

Maybe if someone like Linus bought 50 and tested them

[lone mango]

It all depends on silicon quality

[frigid stag]

I think he did but i don’t remember if he tested ram

[lone mango]

It is entirely possible that my 9600x coming in could do 6400

[hoary zodiac]

6400 is within the realm of possibility on Ryzen

We have infrastructure to handle fast cpus and gpus

[lone mango]

But I dont want the off chance that it wont and then I gotta change the speeds

[hoary zodiac]

But the cpus/gpus can't fully take advantage of them

mfw 8000MHz and PCIE gen 5 bandwidth doesn't get fully used

[lone mango]

But something I noticed is that 6000 cl26 is almost identical to an 8000 kit on ryzen

[lone mango]

Must get new feature

[hoary zodiac]

Could be a difference in tuning

[frigid stag]

It’s common enough that you could recommend someone buy 6400c32 on ryzen and there’s a good chance it’ll work

[hoary zodiac]

The only thing good about gen 5 is bifurcation

[frigid stag]

Isn’t 8000 worse than 6400c32 on ryzen because it’s desynced

[hoary zodiac]

Put a crap ton of ssds in one slot

[lone mango]

Itll be at 2000 for 8000 instead of 3000 for 6000

Its like a few % faster

Im talking like 2-4%

I want to get this 6000 cl28 kit and call it

[frigid stag]

Get c26 🕶️

[lone mango]

I think I can get it to 26 and copy buildzoid timings

[frigid stag]

Go big or go home

[lone mango]

Its like the same price as 8000

[frigid stag]

How much is it

[lone mango]

I forgot but its a lot and pretty limited too

Relative to the widespread cl30

[fresh timber]

I'd run 8000 on am5

[frigid stag]

Looks like I can’t even find it on pcpartpicker in stock

[fresh timber]

Sounds fun

[frigid stag]

Oh no there’s one for 264

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't that more than a 48gb kit

[fresh timber]

https://pc.vextroboomin.xyz

[frigid stag]

Nice

[lone mango]

Kit on newegg going for 190\

[frigid stag]

Zooming

[frigid stag]

It’s 48gb

[fresh timber]

Rate

[lone mango]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820374697

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

[frigid stag]

It has rgb though

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DGkqqs/gskill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6000-cl26-memory-f5-6000j2636h24gx2-tz5nr

[lone mango]

Almost double the price of cl30

[hoary zodiac]

Price makes a lot more sense now but like

I'd just tune it myself

[lone mango]

There is this cl28 gskill flare x for 120

[frigid stag]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VzGhP6/patriot-viper-xtreme-5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-8200-cl38-memory-pvx532g82c38k just get this

And tweak timings

[lone mango]

Sounds good to me

[hoary zodiac]

8200 CL38

[frigid stag]

130 for 8200 ram

[hoary zodiac]

That is nice

[frigid stag]

Yep

[lone mango]

8200

So uclk is gonna be 2067

[frigid stag]

Iirc it’s the cheapest 8000+ kit

[frigid stag]

You can tune it down to 6400c28 or something good like that

Idk maybe that’s pushing it

[lone mango]

If its cl38 at that speed I think it could pull it off maybe

You know that cl36 6000 kit for the micro center bundle lol

This is cracked in comparison

[frigid stag]

Ye it’s nuts

[lone mango]

Honestly for 135 thats really good

[frigid stag]

You can run 8000 on it if you wanted to for some reason

But desynced

[lone mango]

I dont think it will be

Just the ratio gets bigger

It would be the same ratio for 8200 as well

2067/8200 vs 2000/8000

Wait would 8200 be desynced

Also I dont even know if my board would do 8200

[frigid stag]

Does it say in the qvl

You have b850 right

[lone mango]

Ok so b850i lightning says up to 8200

[frigid stag]

🔥

[lone mango]

Am I cooking rn

Not really I didnt order the board yet

[frigid stag]

🗿

[lone mango]

Cant my options are limited

Am5 itx does not have many options at all

Its like 4 boards bruh

Or 5

Kinda brutal

[frigid stag]

Oh you’re doing all itx

Ye they’re expensive too

[lone mango]

Yeah Im upgrading from my 5600

[lone mango]

Fr

b650 lightning is not going down in price

b850 been out for a while now

So if it hasnt gone down yet then it probably wont until they stop making it

[frigid stag]

It might but idk

[lone mango]

Also the a620 lightning wifi went up in price a little bit so it makes going to that even more pointless

[frigid stag]

It’s a gamble for sure

[lone mango]

Might as well get b850 im not tripping

Its been out for months and b650 didnt go down

[frigid stag]

I had a specific board in mind if I went am5 but I think it sold out so I guess I’m going intel

[lone mango]

160 on amazon not worth saving 50 imo

ima NEED that curve optimizer

[rancid juniper]

i just realized that today is 4/20

[lone mango]

What about the ice motherboard

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/future-intel-arc-graphics-could-adopt-gddr7-memory-according-to-job-listing

[lone mango]

I dont see why not

It will be cheaper by the time they adopt it too so why not

I assume amd will adopt it too

[fresh timber]

its funny

evreytime theirs alot of wind my exhast fan stops spinning

[lone mango]

Amd and intel are trying to hit that budget market so gddr7 would not make as much sense

gddr6 is still fast enough

[fresh timber]

gddr7 for marketing

[lone mango]

Bro I have done so many aws labs that I copy and paste using the shift key

The environments run on amazon linux so I have to do ctrl shift c or v instead of ctrl c/v

My muscle memory has been retrained bro just does it unknowingly

Im like why is the inspector coming up

[rancid juniper]

watch it be $60+

[lone mango]

Did they even do a reveal

[rancid juniper]

no

its rumored to be a shadowdrop instead

[lone mango]

So its not launching

Oh

[fresh timber]

hear me out

9070xt 24gb verson

9070xtx

[nocturne flicker]

Has to be a shadow drop, they need it to fail so the Fallout New Vegas boys don't get in a tizy

[lone mango]

What ram chips does it use

2gb dies?

[fresh timber]

idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nocturne flicker]

I wonder how it'll be modding wise

[rancid juniper]

probably the same

[nocturne flicker]

If it is UE5 I imagine it'll be a completely different modding tool kit from what Bethesda game modders have been using for well over a decade

[lone mango]

If it is ue5 dont buy it

Tired of the slop

[fresh timber]

why

ue5 doesnt = slop

fortnite is good

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

we have palworld

[nocturne flicker]

I honestly couldn't care less about Palworld

My only interest was thumbing it to Nintendo

Also Fortnite is a rot on gaming and nothing shall convince me otherwise

[frigid stag]

It’s just a fun esports game

I take it you don’t like the older br games either

[lone mango]

Occasionally I get the urge to redownload for save the world nostalgia

Reminds me of years ago when I first played that with some friends

They havent touched that game mode in forever its like a time capsule

Still the same the few times I played it for a bit

[wise wigeon]

wow 9070xt memory runs hot in even a lighter game like metaphor

[nocturne flicker]

I don't like Battle Royales because I generally don't like competitive shooters. That is only part of my dislike for Fortnite, which is also driven by the leeching of features popularized by Fortnite into other games and its overwhelming influence in popular culture

[sinful blade]

@nocturne flicker the modding should be slower, since ue5

[lone mango]

Yeah its not really confirmed why but to me its multifactoral

Cooler design + possible reporting differences + higher clocks

[wise wigeon]

I mean its in spec but compared to the other temps it really do make you a bit uncomfy

[lone mango]

I saw someone replace pads and temps went down a decent bit

[wise wigeon]

i mean the only ones that drop under 80c are apparently the merc and a asus model

[lone mango]

Some theorize that it could be reporting temperatures differently

But the ram also clocks higher

[wise wigeon]

and the merc is running the fans at like 2700rpm

but its still mid to high 70s

gguess its just something i gotta get used to

like how hot my cpu gets in shader comp

[lone mango]

Yeah you can lower temps a little by changing pads but its still gonna be hot

What clocks is it running at

Its like 2500 right

[wise wigeon]

normally it sits around 70-75c in games but rivals shader comp after a new install had it hitting 84c

[lone mango]

My bad I meant vram clocks

[wise wigeon]

think its around that yeah

undervolting doesnt help that much either nor does pwer limits so

[lone mango]

Yeah thats only for the core

[wise wigeon]

i'm just running stock

anyway back to metaphor

[tranquil pebble]

Someone in another server just had issues with Minecraft shaders... I got them to show me a screenshot of the F3 debug info... and they are using Vega 3 graphics

[hoary zodiac]

what vega 3

is it like a 3200g or something

[tranquil pebble]

only has 4 ROPs lol

[tranquil pebble]

3250U

[hoary zodiac]

oh

HAHAHAHAH

isn't that zen+

that is hot garbage

[tranquil pebble]

yeah I told them their system is too weak for shaders

[hoary zodiac]

I run minecraft with shaders on my 5900HX's vega 8

gets arounds 30-50 fps

very playable

[nocturne flicker]

Vega 3 is Athlon yeah?

[lone mango]

Which shaders

[hoary zodiac]

BSL

[hoary zodiac]

there's a bunch of vega 3s

[lone mango]

Oh ok

[tranquil pebble]

and 3250U Ryzen 3

[hoary zodiac]

AMD in their infinite wisdom

named very different igpus with the same name

[frigid stag]

Even counter strike?
Also the “influence” it had was like 6 or 7 years ago, it’s not as popular now

[lone mango]

Old fortnite was kinda cool

Now its zoomer slop

[hoary zodiac]

my vega 8 is probably a lot better than the vega 8 on a 3200g

[lone mango]

Like when it was new

[lone mango]

Correct

[frigid stag]

There’s literally og now

[lone mango]

We love amd naming

[hoary zodiac]

my zen 3 is goated

I don't even use the 3070

game runs fine without it

[lone mango]

Yeah I think those mobile chips are good

And that was before they switched the naming

[hoary zodiac]

yeah ryzen mobile is very efficient

great silicon

[lone mango]

So i like it even more

[lone mango]

Yurr

[nocturne flicker]

Zen 1 APUs yeah?

[nocturne flicker]

Yes, I dislike Counter Strike. I've played a grand total of...2 hours a couple years ago amd knew it wasn't my thing

Eck, mobile data struggling

[hoary zodiac]

I believe the 3250U is zen+

[lone mango]

Very fast typing

[hoary zodiac]

actual hot garbage

[lone mango]

Yeah its one of those where the first number skips ahead for mobile stuff

[hoary zodiac]

I suspects they were gimped by ram too

[lone mango]

Idk why they did that

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't get a laptop pre ryzen 4000

I'd just get an intel

they're quite literally just better

[nocturne flicker]

Also it may have been 6 or 7 years ago, but you can't deny the feature leak has staying power. Battle Passes go brrrr, why use lootboxes when you can make an even more toxic system that is designed to make you feel pressured even more to play as much as you possibly can in a game that is very friendly towards teenage gamers

[hoary zodiac]

imagine paying a subscription service

[frigid stag]

Ye that’s kinda true but I don’t think fortnite was the first to do it

Valve had it with dota 2 iirc

[nocturne flicker]

Dota 2 did. But it wasn't popular until Fortnite made big mones with it

Which is why I said features Fortnite popularized

Which is exactly what it did with Battle Pass systems

[lone mango]

Damn I am split on the ram thing now

Do I go 6000 cl28 or get the 8200 for a little more

Idk I think I might get some compatibility issues with the 8200 kit

[nocturne flicker]

Heck, they added a season system to my funni little LotR mmorpg because it was the hip new way of getting people to play more. They at least knew they wouldn't be able to get people to buy it though

[hoary zodiac]

are you actually spending more on ram lol

[frigid stag]

I think it’ll be fine but you might need to tweak timings

[hoary zodiac]

I'd just get 6000 CL30

[frigid stag]

Idk if it has 6000 xmp on it

With c30

It might just be 8200 and that’s it

[lone mango]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/680458/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-6400-pc5-51200-cl32-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-ctcwd532g6400hc32adc01-white?sp=256

Woah

[hoary zodiac]

6400 CL32

that's pretty good

[lone mango]

And its not even $10 more than 6000

I think that is what I am getting

I could literally go there tomorrow

[frigid stag]

I think I’ll get that ram from before

Hope 4 sticks works 🤞

[lone mango]

What the hell

What are you paying for with this bruh

[icy ore]

Dookie

[frigid stag]

Look at dominator platinum or titanium if you want to see expensive

Overpriced to the max

[nocturne flicker]

Rbg makes pc go fastererer, PCMR told me so

[fresh timber]

storage anyone

[dusk knot]

Yes

I want 4 tb

[lone mango]

I have 4tb in my pc

[fresh timber]

womp womp

bettre than nothing

[sinful blade]

@nocturne flicker so how much we betting on the noon drop on oblivion

[lone mango]

Sotru

[nocturne flicker]

Bigger numbers better

[nocturne flicker]

$2

Spent all money on storage

[dusk knot]

Hand it over, pal

[lone mango]

[sinful blade]

Real

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

minecraft is running a lot better than I remembered

[ripe depot]

Hello i was wondering if anyone would help me find a good pc build for around 700-800$ range? if anyone could help pls dm me or @ me Thank you

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[lone mango]

I think sodium is on 0.6.10

[hoary zodiac]

oh wait

I don't have distant horizons installed

maybe that's why the game is running better idk

[lone mango]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

or worse

sitting around 49-50fps

should I turn on my dgpu

3070 time

yeah it's at 70fps now

gonna try uncapping it

eh kinda mid

gonna cap it back down to 70

actually

should I set the display refresh rate to 90hz

ok supposedly it's at 90hz now

laptop not liking the loads

oh it's coming back down

and it's back up again

[craggy shoal]

82C? Wow that's quite cold for a laptop

[hoary zodiac]

I'm running restrained settings

capped at 90Hz

[craggy shoal]

Nah it's 82C you have like 50C until it gets bad lmao

[sinful blade]

Check this out on @Newegg:Gaming PC Ryzen 5 5600X 16GB RAM 500GB SSD RTX 3070 8GB Windows 11 Computer https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0012-009B3?item=9SIADFRKBK8981

[hoary zodiac]

fans are annoying tho

that's the main reason I cap it

this laptop has pretty beefy heatpipes so

[wraith fern]

is 20 bucks to achieve 8k polling stupid

its 1k rn

[craggy shoal]

$20 for an 8K Hz mouse sounds too good to be true

[wraith fern]

oh nah i already paid 150 for the mouse

[lone mango]

Probably means an adapter

[wraith fern]

its 20k for the dongle to use 8k

ya

[lone mango]

Litlle dongle for it

[lone mango]

[craggy shoal]

oh

[wraith fern]

er mouse was 100

[craggy shoal]

nah

[onyx merlin]

wtf

Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 265F, 20 cores are these

are they some new line of intel CPUS ?

[lone mango]

Yeah new naming

[wraith fern]

its stupid

everyone liked the old naming structure

[onyx merlin]

how do they compare to regular CPUS ? I got i9 10400f CPU

[wraith fern]

well thast basically 17th gen right

so its pretty good compared to your cpu

[hoary zodiac]

15th*

[craggy shoal]

16*

[onyx merlin]

mines is still pretty good CPU right ?

[wraith fern]

isnt there a 15th gen??

[lone mango]

17*

[hoary zodiac]

wait what

[craggy shoal]

It's 16 guys c'mon

[hoary zodiac]

how does the naming work

[lone mango]

It came after 14 so its like a 15th gen

[hoary zodiac]

this discourse alone shows how absurd the naming is

[craggy shoal]

Ultra 100 series was for mobile devices. Now there's 200 series

[wraith fern]

i stopped paying attention to intel after 13th gen

[lone mango]

I was just kidding

[wraith fern]

its stupid

[craggy shoal]

15 for desktop and 16 if you include everything

good morning everybody

[wraith fern]

interesting

honestly id just get amd rn

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[craggy shoal]

Don't get an Intel Core Ultra for gaming

[hoary zodiac]

core ultra is good on paper

but comapred to ryzen and 14th gen

nah

[wraith fern]

if you have a 10400k you need a new mobo and ram so i djust grab a 9800x3d or something

[lone mango]

Overclocked core ultra is actually really fast

[wraith fern]

on paper

[craggy shoal]

Just get anything as long as it isn't an Intel Core Ultra

[onyx merlin]

10400K caught on fire or something right ?

[lone mango]

Nah in games

[onyx merlin]

cuz it used too much power ?

[wraith fern]

10400k?

[craggy shoal]

bruh what

[wraith fern]

isnt that what you have?

i gurantee it uses no power

[onyx merlin]

no

I have F version

[wraith fern]

thats basically the same

[onyx merlin]

its less powerful

[nocturne flicker]

Wen

[onyx merlin]

uses less power too

[wraith fern]

dawg the k has a max tdp of 65w

i dont think its catching on fire

[craggy shoal]

No, your 65W 10400F will not catch on fire 💀

[lone mango]

F has that limit

[wraith fern]

i cant find a k limit

maybe its 80w?

[onyx merlin]

K I think can go beyond the limits... well the limits of the F

[craggy shoal]

My 253W 13700K that ran on an outdated BIOS for the longest time never caught on fire lol

[lone mango]

And I think f will also boost above it for a short period of time

[nocturne flicker]

My life will never be complete if Intel never releases the IICMU9385KCMU9S3CPU

[wraith fern]

so real

[lone mango]

its just not as aggressive

[onyx merlin]

I am just curious why suddenly gaming desktops have new top of line processors in them..

before they just used older generations..

is Intel scrambling ?

to cover up some failures

[lone mango]

Kinda

They are racing to make their own node rn too

[wraith fern]

apparently on paper the core ultra 7 265 beats a 9800x3d by around 16%

[lone mango]

Or rushing

rather

[onyx merlin]

So I am guessing Intel is scared of AMD and Nivida ?

[wraith fern]

not scared i dont think

theyre trying to hold on and its not working

[lone mango]

No they are just trying to stop their fall rn

[nocturne flicker]

Intel just doesn't have their game together. Whenever they do something that is good, they sit on it and just boost the power budget

[wraith fern]

losing market share with poor cpu launches filled with issues

[craggy shoal]

They can't make a CPU that has a higher TDP than a GPU AND outperform the competition

[lone mango]

I think their next generation will address the issues arrow lake brought

[onyx merlin]

dam if I know they were about to release good CPUS I would have held off on my gaming desktop.... but I was worried about well the trade wars...

[wraith fern]

thats what they said in 14th gen is it not

[onyx merlin]

oh well my I9 is good enough for most games

[wraith fern]

its an i9?

but its a 10400?

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

it's an i9

[wraith fern]

isnt a 10400 an i3

[lone mango]

i5

[hoary zodiac]

I assume it's a 10900

[wraith fern]

right

[hoary zodiac]

that's not a 10900

[wraith fern]

they were talking about a 10400

[hoary zodiac]

LITERALLY no point to go to a core ultra then

that probably outperforms most core ultras

[wraith fern]

yeah

fs

[lone mango]

Yeah you wont be upgrading for a good bit dawg

[onyx merlin]

really I thought it was budget cpu

[lone mango]

Dont worry about it

[hoary zodiac]

WHAT

[dense locust]

at the cost of more power

[lone mango]

[wraith fern]

???

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[wraith fern]

its $500 no?

[onyx merlin]

not cpu expert my bad

[lone mango]

F sku so nah

[wraith fern]

450 bucks

[hoary zodiac]

perf/$

[wraith fern]

💀

[dense locust]

14900k a budget cpu

[wraith fern]

budget for me

im rich!

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe when they were doing the fire sales?

[hoary zodiac]

yeah it's less efficient but bro is probably not gonna buy a new cpu for less power consumption alone

[onyx merlin]

I mean its F version I think that is budget version thought

[wraith fern]

not really

[hoary zodiac]

F = no igpu

[wraith fern]

and no overclocking

[dense locust]

no thats kf

wait

[wraith fern]

dawg

are we fr rn

[dense locust]

or is it the other way aROUND

[hoary zodiac]

kf means k with no igpu

[wraith fern]

f means no igpu

[nocturne flicker]

K is overclocking. F is no gpu unit

[wraith fern]

kf means overclocking with no igpue

[onyx merlin]

no IGPU mans weaker right ?

[wraith fern]

no

[hoary zodiac]

no

[nocturne flicker]

No

[wraith fern]

it means nothing

[hoary zodiac]

unless you use quicksync

[wraith fern]

nothing about power

[hoary zodiac]

that is the only scenario

[nocturne flicker]

No igpu means they cut the price a little

[dense locust]

i confused k with f

[wraith fern]

ive read most f cpus are just regular cpus with faulty igpus?

[hoary zodiac]

you can have k and f

[wraith fern]

i have a kf

if you have a gpu theres legit no point in an extra 20 bucks for get an igpu. except for when i went 2 weeks without being able to use my pc since my gpu broke, that was rough 😂

[nocturne flicker]

I imagine it is a mix of faulty igpus and ones made with no igpu

[hoary zodiac]

the ONLY reason to get an igpu is quicksync

or if you're not getting a dgpu

[dense locust]

i do hope intel fixes their downfall with their next product launch

[wraith fern]

probably

[wraith fern]

spoiler alert: they wont

[dense locust]

dont write them off yet

[nocturne flicker]

GPU will save Intel surely

[wraith fern]

they've been writing themselves off

[dense locust]

can you even do anything with amd integrated gpu

[hoary zodiac]

downfall?

[wraith fern]

what market are they appealing to? low budget?

[wraith fern]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

I play minecraft on mine

[nocturne flicker]

They have what, 1% of the market

[onyx merlin]

is 40-42C idle for my CPU ok or crap ? I got 21 web tabs open plus playing some music

[wraith fern]

basically anything except gaming

[hoary zodiac]

you can game on them

productivity?

[wraith fern]

nothing that relies a ton on gpu

[hoary zodiac]

not so much

basically they're intel igpus but more useless

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/downfall-steiner-mein-fuhrer-steiner-gif-24733130

[dense locust]

i never disabled mine because i dont ever have issues of my pc using the wrong gpu

[onyx merlin]

I am assuming cpus should be like 20-25C idle

[hoary zodiac]

no

[dense locust]

[nocturne flicker]

Low budget market and I think there are some productivity situations they excel at in their price category?

[wraith fern]

unless you plug your monitor into your mobo that wont happen i doubt

[hoary zodiac]

are you on a pentium?

[wraith fern]

my 12700k idles around 35

its at 32 rn

[hoary zodiac]

ryzen idles around 45

[dense locust]

mine hits 45

[wraith fern]

i wouldnt worry about idle temps

[dense locust]

ironically its at 52 rn using discord

i guess discord is intensive

[wraith fern]

turn off hardware acceleration on discord

[hoary zodiac]

yeah idle temps don't really say much

[nocturne flicker]

20C is basically ambient temp

No shot of that ever

[wraith fern]

with all the power running in a pc anything under 30 is pretty unattainable

[onyx merlin]

@hoary zodiac Alienware Aurora R16 they fixed most of the heating issues from previous generations..... granted I am worried about my CPU beng 40-42 C idle... but my room is a bit hot I guess.

[wraith fern]

unless you have a 200w pc and your room is like 22c

[wraith fern]

alienware cases are basically ovens

[dense locust]

maybe with a fully custom watercooled pc

and a lower end cpu

[wraith fern]

we've just said 40c is nothing to worry about

thats not very high

[onyx merlin]

But how do I get it like 20-25C ?

[wraith fern]

you dont

[onyx merlin]

would thermal paste work

[wraith fern]

no

its not possible

[dense locust]

liquid nitrogen

[lone mango]

You already have thermal paste

[nocturne flicker]

Liquid nitrogen

[wraith fern]

you will never get it cooler than your room while 200w of power runs through it

[onyx merlin]

Dam... oh well

[dense locust]

why do you even want 20-25

[wraith fern]

its nothing to worry about

[dense locust]

no point

[wraith fern]

i dont know why you seem to care so much about it

[lone mango]

Do what jay does where you get an ac unit and point it towards the cooler

Besides that it wont happen

[wraith fern]

it becomes much much harder for a cpu to heat up so 40c is basically nothing compared to peak during gaming (90-110ish)

[onyx merlin]

OCD about temps even get worried while gaming high end games at top tier graphics cuz of my 4080S and I keep checking temps constantly

[wraith fern]

id be worried about condensation

[dense locust]

i think something is wrong with your cooling if youre hitting 110

[onyx merlin]

its gotten to point half time I game I am just checking temps

[wraith fern]

??

[hoary zodiac]

what

I'm playing minecraft with my dgpu at 70c

I'm chilling with these really low load temps

[wraith fern]

i mean i have my cpu core temp on my stream deck but i dont really look at it, 90% of the time its hidden by my monitor

[lone mango]

Its not that deep you can run the chips at their max temperature and be fine for years

[wraith fern]

and i can tell how hot my gpu is based off of how loud the fans are

[hoary zodiac]

70c on my laptop btw

[dense locust]

if temps were an issue your pc would shut itself off

[onyx merlin]

how do I get over this ? I know its likely unusual thing to get OCD over but well.

[lone mango]

Im talkin 90c on both

[wraith fern]

they will shut down if it gets too hot anwyays

[hoary zodiac]

god bless ryzen mobile

[lone mango]

And be ok

[nocturne flicker]

I can tell how hot I am by looking in the mirror

[lone mango]

If throttling doesnt work yeah

[nocturne flicker]

I am always sweaty and ugly

[dense locust]

something must have gone real wrong if you get a pc shutoff

[onyx merlin]

I know it also should not really matter as I will get a new PC in 4ish years anyways

[wraith fern]

well yeah exatctly

[wraith fern]

???

you do realize your pc parts are made to run hot right

[hoary zodiac]

give me your pc

[onyx merlin]

@wraith fern you ever get OCD about things at all ?

[dense locust]

im riding my pc for 10 years

[lone mango]

have you installed lact

[dense locust]

pc too expensive

[nocturne flicker]

Begging smh

[hoary zodiac]

wait no

It's a F

nvm it's completely worthless to me

I want the igpu

[dense locust]

F in chat

[wraith fern]

eh not really, i dont really worry about temps unless they heat up my room 😂 i keep my highest temps around 73 (gpu) and i've never once worried about my cpu temps since i got rid of my crappy air cooler

[lone mango]

My 6700 xt goes up to 90c hotspot temp because the fans are very conservative

Im talkin like 1100 or 1200 rpm

[dense locust]

ah yes hotspot

[lone mango]

Literally inaudible

[dense locust]

i remember hotspot

[nocturne flicker]

Hotspot, otherwise known as the southern US

[lone mango]

I undervolted and increased fans speeds and I get in the 70s hotspot

[lone mango]

True

[dense locust]

thats me

[nocturne flicker]

88F in April go brrrrrrrr

[dense locust]

🔥

[lone mango]

Seems to be cooler because of la nina phase

[nocturne flicker]

Yesterday was 88

Today was 84 but more humid

[onyx merlin]

I know during peak summer weather here in Califorina Bay Areat easily gets to be 90-120F lately.. typically like 90-110 here in san Jose (I would say about 90-95) during summer quite a bit.

[wraith fern]

is 8k polling worth or nah

20 bucks is not bad

[lone mango]

Nah

[wraith fern]

ive heard there are issues with high polling actually

like it can be worse than low polling rates

[onyx merlin]

Do you all game more during summer or less during peak heat ? or do you all got OP ACs in your homes ?

My place has no AC just old fashion room fans

[lone mango]

I know that it increases cpu load

[nocturne flicker]

I suffer through it

I try to light the AC light to save money

Also my AC is borked

[wraith fern]

We have solar

[onyx merlin]

have you ever had a PC croak during summer from heat finally offing it and sending it to the void ?

[wraith fern]

No dude

Your house would need to be on fire to kill a cpu

[lone mango]

Probably would survive ngl lmaooo

[dense locust]

i mean with an intel cpu if they had it in 2023-2024 technically it couldve died

[nocturne flicker]

My sector of the central air unit has the sensor gauge in the hallway. Where it takes the temperature of the hallway which is cooled by a sensor in the living room

[wraith fern]

Ts so kevin

[lone mango]

[onyx merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq0WWMLNqHw

[nocturne flicker]

So my room could be 80 but since the living room thermostat has cooled the hallway to 73, my AC never turns on unless the hallway temp goes above 73

[onyx merlin]

pc up in flames

[hoary zodiac]

skull issue

[onyx merlin]

granted Everyone I got electric dust blower now for my PC you just plug into wall and highly pressurized air shoots out and blows dust away

[dense locust]

Huseyin forgot a nearby candle was still alight when he started to clean, and when he went to clean the computer fan, the candle caught wind of the dust particles and instantly combusted towards his hand.

now thats just stupidity

[lone mango]

I prefer the smaller handheld electric ones

There was like an arms race between the amazon sellers for a good bit and now you can get something really powerful for like 20 or 30 bucks

[fresh timber]

What cooler should I get

[lone mango]

For nas that is perfectly ok

I would just save the money

[hoary zodiac]

mfw I go coal mining but find diamonds instead

[fresh timber]

No it’s loud

[lone mango]

Our base location is kinda brutal

[hoary zodiac]

oh look another one

[lone mango]

Deep dark all around us

[fresh timber]

Weak

[hoary zodiac]

ik coal doesn't spawn at thi slevel

[fresh timber]

Buy more

[lone mango]

Damn fr

[hoary zodiac]

but I'm lighting up the cave

[fresh timber]

They get loud under full load

[nocturne flicker]

We can never dig too deep

[hoary zodiac]

which stretches from 10 to -20

[fresh timber]

Ai face recognition isn’t.. cheap

[dense locust]

why are you coal mining in deepslate

it doesnt spawn there

[hoary zodiac]

.

[dense locust]

oh

still making fun of you

[fresh timber]

I host a modded craftoria server

It’s fun

[dense locust]

making a farm or what

[hoary zodiac]

new world

I might just go into the nether with a bucket

[fresh timber]

When ru going to automate every resource then get bored

[velvet summit]

me when i find more diamonds than the iron that i was looking for

[hoary zodiac]

or make a lava farm

[hoary zodiac]

that was me last night when I was trying to fix my pickaxe

[velvet summit]

why is iron somehow harder to find than diamonds ong

[hoary zodiac]

I mine at level 10 for iron

[velvet summit]

i found like 5 veins of diamonds (usually 2-3 ore blocks) in the span of finding one iron vein

[hoary zodiac]

I've got so much iron to smelt that I'm running out of coal

I'm gonna make the dripstone thingy

[lone mango]

-55 good for diamond

[lone mango]

Bro my friend made this and I completely forgot about it

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not even looking for diamonds that's the funny part

[velvet summit]

i was doing the mining in a cave mostly

[lone mango]

Its literally out in the open

Like how did I forget bruh

[velvet summit]

so it was a wide variety of levels

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna stop using coal as fuel

[velvet summit]

i normally use charcoal blocks as fuel

that's like the most efficent fuel in vanilla minecraft i think?

[hoary zodiac]

it's early game so

I don't have much wood

[velvet summit]

and logs are easily obtainable

[hoary zodiac]

and any I have

I'm saving for building projects

[dense locust]

i think bamboo blocks are now

[velvet summit]

live in a dirt house ong frfrf

[hoary zodiac]

I live in a generated tower

[velvet summit]

oh

[dense locust]

i mean bamboo planks

[velvet summit]

honestly idk the meta i havent really played the newer versions much

[dense locust]

mojang loves telling us how to play the sandbox game

[lone mango]

How

Is that a bedrock thing

[fresh timber]

Vanilla sucks

[velvet summit]

i only play java

[fresh timber]

Okay modded

[dense locust]

i just assumed they meant blocks of coal

[velvet summit]

actually now with dripstone as long as you have a bit of iron, you could make infinite lava

[dense locust]

slow tho and each bucket takes up 1 slot

[hoary zodiac]

yeah I'm gonna make an actual smelting room

[velvet summit]

oh wait i think charcoal block was modded nvm lmfao

[dense locust]

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

[velvet summit]

lava prob is the best choice then

easily automated

[hoary zodiac]

I have so much iron

[dense locust]

i think kelp blocks are

[hoary zodiac]

bamboo is easily farmable

[lone mango]

Yeah set up like 6 cauldrons that should be good

[dense locust]

when were they introduced 1.13?

[hoary zodiac]

bamboo is a worse fuel source but stupid easy to farm and automate

[dense locust]

kelp blocks were the best until bamboo

[velvet summit]

hmm

[dense locust]

pre kelp? uhh yeah prob lava

[hoary zodiac]

hmm should I place wood in my chamber that will contain lava

[velvet summit]

idk if you would want to use bamboo or if you would want to use lava more
lava lasts for more ticks and is also easily automated with just some basic redstone and some dispensers + cauldrons + dripstone + a stack of buckets with a chest buffer + a bunch of hoppers lmao

[hoary zodiac]

wait can you automate lava too?

[velvet summit]

yeah with the introduction of dripstone

[hoary zodiac]

oh

damn

[dense locust]

you need a person clicking each cauldron

[velvet summit]

dispenser

[dense locust]

so its not no player automated

[dense locust]

does that work?

[velvet summit]

afaik it does?

[hoary zodiac]

can you use it for potions too

[dense locust]

now youre making me open minecraft to check

[hoary zodiac]

WAIT

[velvet summit]

i've never automated it myself but i know you can add water to cauldrons with a dispenser

[hoary zodiac]

YOU CAN USE IT FOR POTIONS

WTF

[dense locust]

bedrock only

[hoary zodiac]

oh

meh

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

not real minecraft

[lone mango]

When you are just walking around and suddenly die

[dense locust]

only useful to get tipped arrows

[lone mango]

Zombie hits you from 10 blocks away and continues hitting you even when you walk away from it

[hoary zodiac]

time to see if it'll catch on fire

[lone mango]

Idk how people play it

The true mojank

[dense locust]

wait

i messed up[

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna have to move all this too

[dense locust]

oops

[hoary zodiac]

when I make a new base

might just give it to my friend instead

[dense locust]

@velvet summit

its not a dropper

[hoary zodiac]

how long does it take typically

[dense locust]

minecraft wiki says around 20 min

[lone mango]

It takes a bit but thats why you set up a lot of them

[dense locust]

this one is only useful in mid game

[hoary zodiac]

thank god I have a crap load of iron

[dense locust]

gotta have an iron farm to make one thats actually useful

[lone mango]

So you have 3 rn

Just double it and you should be good

Maybe 8

[hoary zodiac]

gonna keep it 6 for now

I only have 3 buckets

[fresh timber]

You think you have enough iron, it’s never enough

I blew threw 10k iron

[hoary zodiac]

nvm can't expand it

it's under wood

[lone mango]

Maybe dig down a couple blocks

[hoary zodiac]

le aesthetics

oh god my staircase is on fire

I'm just gonna move the entire setup

[fair onyx]

Does anybody know how to clear the huge amounts of RAM usage on windows 11? My laptop is constantly at 90%, even though it only shows a few GB in task manager, and I have no idea how the hell to clear it 😭

[velvet summit]

am i remembering a mod again
looking online it seems like the automation method people use is literally just pistons pushing the cauldrons around for an afk player to collect the buckets

im never gonna play vanilla minecraft again this is wack

[dense locust]

lol

[hoary zodiac]

moved the setup

[lone mango]

How long has it been on

[lone mango]

Goes hard

So this is my build right now

Should I get white or black ram

https://www.microcenter.com/product/680458/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32gb-(2-x-16gb)-ddr5-6400-pc5-51200-cl32-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-ctcwd532g6400hc32adc01-white?sp=256

[hoary zodiac]

white

[lone mango]

Yeah makes a good contrast right

[hoary zodiac]

contrasts better with the heatsink and motherboard

great minds think alike

[lone mango]

oh yeah

plus

you will see black dots on the top

yeah def going white

[elfin mural]

white best

[hoary zodiac]

ooo

should I get a sink touch pickaxe

[lone mango]

Yeah

No need to smelt cobble

[hoary zodiac]

OH MY GOD

I got silk touch and efficiency 4

based

[lone mango]

And you can also hoard ore blocks until you get a fortune pick

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

second pickaxe has unbreaking 3

along with same previous enchanments

[lone mango]

Grindstone

I mean it wont give much at all

[hoary zodiac]

nah I'm giving one of the picks to my friend

[lone mango]

But its something

Oh thats right you did bring up friend earlier

Forgot tahts a server

[hoary zodiac]

REEEE

is sweeping edge good?

[lone mango]

Little gimmicky

Its good for farms when mobs are all close together

[hoary zodiac]

this is acceptable

gonna name it something funny

[dense locust]

kb is annoying

[hoary zodiac]

like "the blade of Friedrich der Große" or something

[dense locust]

"yeah ima kill this mob just gotta chase it down every hit"

[lone mango]

It be like that

[hoary zodiac]

should I try to enchant a rod

then try to fish for mending

[fair onyx]

Like... a day?