general-chat

[worn night]

can me post a meme

[icy ore]

nope

banned

[worn night]

thats not including cuss words nor politics nor sensitive topics

bc thats what got my last meme deleted

[dusk knot]

Yogurt lmao

[worn night]

?

[dusk knot]

So we got sigma, beta, now yogurt?

The Internet. Tsk

[worn night]

thats it here we go commit to the bit

right in front of mod

[icy ore]

yo, gurt

[dusk knot]

Weird

[worn night]

Better reaction than last time

[pliant berry]

I didn’t like some of the comment

[worn night]

Sounds like a personal matter

what if i crop it

[lone mango]

Hope you can run 600

610 is weird

If you watch something 60 fps you will probably see some hitches

[worn night]

indeed why not 600

[lone mango]

Bro you need every single fame

[worn night]

Not really

[worn wave]

Probably found they could oc the panels to 610 reliably

[worn night]

prob

[lone mango]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

5060ti should have been a 3080

change my mind

[lone mango]

Amd bouta undercut them so hard bruh

[fresh timber]

fr

[opaque sedge]

Wouldn’t that put its performance close to the 5070?

[fresh timber]

how does the 9070xt compete with a 5070, 5070ti, and 5080 at the same time

[lone mango]

This leak is saying 330-380 for 16gb

[opaque sedge]

Oh damn

[lone mango]

Imo probably 380

[fresh timber]

thats why the 5070 should be a 4070ti minumal

[lone mango]

Which is the 5060ti 8 gb price

[opaque sedge]

Yh it should have had a gain over the 4070 super def

[lone mango]

But for 16

But if you were to ask what I want, it would be 350

Realistically though, probably 380

[fresh timber]

yup, a 4070ti/super would have made it a compelling card, what would make it more compelling for me is 16gb vram

[opaque sedge]

Man i really wish i had disposable income rn i kinda wanna build a budget amd pc and install a linux distro like bazzite or the future full release of steam os (early versions supporting windows handhelds like the ally and legion go is available atm but its an early version with bugs most likely)

[fresh timber]

whats the 5060ti 16gb

whats the price on that

o hell nah

the cheapest card but its a 8gb model

yeah im good on these ones fam

[opaque sedge]

Likely gonna be 400-450 msrp

[tranquil pebble]

oof, my Discord froze from typing too much in the message box in another server

[fresh timber]

my 2nd rig wont get a upgrade until my main one does

[opaque sedge]

6 hundies is nuts

[fresh timber]

2nd rig will get my main gpu passed down to it

[tranquil pebble]

$600 for a 60 class is insanity

[fresh timber]

fr

id rather a 3060ti for $250

less vram but.. not overpriced

wtf

[tranquil pebble]

666W PSU, limited edition Doom

[dense locust]

https://us-store.msi.com/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GPU/GeForce-RTX-50-Series/GeForce-RTX-5060-Ti-16G-VENTUS-2X-OC-PLUS

$500

its something

[acoustic palm]

I’ve seen 5070 for that price

[dense locust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil pebble]

Miku reaction to GPU prices

[lone mango]

The upselling card

Might as well bite the bullet and spend a little more to get 33% more performance

Or just wait for amd

[proud jackal]

No

[opaque sedge]

@proud jackal should i have bought an oled monitor instead of my steam deck oled…

I’ve been playing on my steam deck a lot and that oled panel is smth else

Been enjoying playing on it more than my pc

[dusk knot]

Didn't notice that.

[opaque sedge]

And made me think huh what if i had just gotten an oled monitor instead

[proud jackal]

Old changes the game

Oled

[opaque sedge]

Indeed it does like its made games (ofc low fidelity ones) enjoyable on a portable device

With a dinky 7 inch screen

I can’t even begin to imagine the glory in a full size monitor

[frigid stag]

You can sell it if you want right

[tranquil pebble]

good for movies too

[frigid stag]

Or return if it’s close enough to the date you bought it

[opaque sedge]

Past the return period and gonna be honest its a really fun device

[frigid stag]

So you’re buying an oled on top of the steam deck

[opaque sedge]

Ofc it aint gonna run newer high fidelity games well but its so fun to play on

[opaque sedge]

Not rn ofc

Maybe if i work a summer job or after i have my career settled 2-3 years later

[proud jackal]

Only if the movie/source supports hardware acceleration and hdr

On PC.

[tranquil pebble]

nah the deep blacks make everything look better IMO HDR or not

[frigid stag]

Sometimes there’s cheap sales, look out for those if you want one

There’s been oleds for 350

Ultrawide as well

[opaque sedge]

Holy crap thats mini led price

[frigid stag]

Ye ultra wide 5k x 1440

[dusk knot]

huh

[frigid stag]

5k horizontal and 1440 vertical

[opaque sedge]

Oh wait i remember it was that best buy one right

[frigid stag]

Ye

[opaque sedge]

The lg ultrawide

[opaque sedge]

From months ago

[dusk knot]

no way

no way

[opaque sedge]

One guy on reddit was able to grab it

[lone mango]

Hahahaha

[dusk knot]

my 5080 on top. good

the game is horribly optimized btw

[lone mango]

Jp next day says its not enough

[lone mango]

Yeah

[dusk knot]

i just joke

[pliant berry]

what res though

[lone mango]

[opaque sedge]

1440p ultrawide

I think

[pliant berry]

oh yikes

[frigid stag]

Only one?

[dusk knot]

in person its not good

pixels are to apparent

[frigid stag]

I saw it in stock and I was like 1 hour behind

[proud jackal]

Where's 4090 5090 on that graph

[dusk knot]

people cant buy those

therefore it doenst exist

[frigid stag]

I can buy 5090

[dusk knot]

for 5090 dollars

[frigid stag]

No

[opaque sedge]

Maybe their test 4090 borked due to recent nvidia drivers 😔

[frigid stag]

Only 4200

[dusk knot]

damn

a deal

[opaque sedge]

4200…. That used to get you a somewhat decent used car

[frigid stag]

Ok there you go there’s one for 4000 flat

Founders edition from Amazon scalper

[worn wave]

here's LTT/shortcircuit

wish they put the base 4070 in there

[dusk knot]

9070xt looking good

[opaque sedge]

Apparently oblivion is getting a remake

Rumors suggesting a shadow drop late this month

Would be nice ngl been looking for an open world rpg

Hopefully its got good third person combat tho

I dont enjoy first person a lot

Unreal engine 5 tho…

And bethesda…

[dusk knot]

very cool

UE5, not cool

[opaque sedge]

And bethesda ontop…

[dusk knot]

even more uncool

starfield lmao

[opaque sedge]

Even black myth wukong is one of the better optimized ue5 games… and even it doesn’t perform well

[opaque sedge]

And pretty sure its open world

Open world…

On unreal engine 5

Made by bethesda

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-confused-unsure-what-okay-gif-5560912481940641308

Watch that game perform worse than mhwilds

[wary fjord]

@rancid juniper

can u spot the difference

wait what no embed

[worn wave]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[opaque sedge]

Mods can lose perms?

[opaque sedge]

Is it true the 14th gen outperformed the core ultra in cases?

Oh wait @dusk knot doesn’t xbox or Microsoft own Bethesda

Wouldn’t that make the remake to be likely on game pass

[frigid stag]

Yes

Gaming is one of them. There’s been bios updates now though so idk how it stands

[dusk knot]

yes.....

[worn night]

Who won the Crucial Custom PC Build Giveaway

[dusk knot]

me

jk. no idea

[royal crow]

if my dad did imma throw a party

[worn night]

bruh

[royal crow]

he reaaly needs one

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-spin-fan-rope-gif-25248314

[tranquil pebble]

These kinds of deals are generally gone in seconds lol

[worn wave]

yeah best buy will do stock clearing like that I think

[tranquil pebble]

I was happy to get an OLED for $300 off ngl

[worn wave]

It'll be just a handful of units and often only a certain state/region

[frigid stag]

I found out about it an hour late and it was still there

🤷‍♀️

[west topaz]

Is a brand new Asus 4070 super for $650 a good deal?

GPU

[gilded kraken]

When your just eating, Vibing, watching a video and your phone goes off with a notification and jumpscares you

[tranquil pebble]

and then you check it and it is a spam sms

[gilded kraken]

amazon email. But yeeeh

[fresh timber]

o lord

[worn wave]

nah

[opaque sedge]

Oml

Modular controller…

With 6 extra effing buttons

EFFING SIX

Wait where’s felix

Fuc

[royal crow]

He left😔

[opaque sedge]

Did he leave

Damn

I was hoping he could see that controller

[wary fjord]

yes but also degrade faster

jk no idea if they fix the degration yet i know u need a specific bios to fix it.. but that bios update gimp that performance

[fresh timber]

you can make it not gimp

if ur gaming you wont realize your being gimped

[opaque sedge]

I THINK I FOUND HIM IN ANOTHER SERVER

brb gotta tag him to show that controller

Looks like he’s not active there…

[misty sparrow]

Just DM him

you are friends with him

[pliant berry]

sometimes plex can be so wrong it's not even funny..

https://i.imgur.com/ndHgwnV.png

[misty sparrow]

"Anime Movies"

[pliant berry]

omg I finally got it

https://i.imgur.com/EAAjHtW.png

yeah this is what it was supposed to be

[worn night]

Chat I got another fire meme

sourced straight from an offensive meme creator on yt

[lone mango]

[fresh nova]

Discord merch is sooo expensive

Holy moly

@fresh nova

[misty sparrow]

pinging yourself

[lone mango]

Any merch is

Never bought merch before

Probably never will

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/tanjiro-scream-breath-in-anime-rage-gif-27226954

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[misty sparrow]

dead on arrival

they learned nothing from xdefiant

[opaque sedge]

@rancid juniper does this controller look like anything special to you?

[rancid juniper]

just looks like another modified xbox controller so no

[opaque sedge]

Brace yourself it is kind of a modified xbox controller

But not just any xbox controller

[misty sparrow]

to me it reminds me of comparing normal jeans to tighter jeans

[misty sparrow]

basically the same thing except slimmer

[rancid juniper]

lol

[opaque sedge]

It uses the elite back shell

[rancid juniper]

thats cool n all but imma still stick to the xbox controller

just for simplicity sake

[misty sparrow]

i've never heard of this brand anyway

[opaque sedge]

And is fully modular so with the right parts u could make it symmetrical too

[opaque sedge]

Well its a third party Chinese manufacturer

[rancid juniper]

i mean, if its right up your alley then go for it

[opaque sedge]

They’re the only ones doing anything abt making good unique controllers

The western ones are just…

Overpriced and honestly not great value

[deep parcel]

does it have hall effect sticks?

[opaque sedge]

Yuh

Can even get tmr modules to swap them with

[deep parcel]

ooh nice

ive been looking at controllers because I need one for racing games and stuff

was thinking about getting one of the Gamesir ones

with hall effect sticks

[opaque sedge]

The gamesir cyclone 2 seems pretty nice

But they are coming out with a g7pro in may i think

[opaque sedge]

Currently the controller nerds seem to be all over this particular controller

[fresh timber]

fortnite is so boring, i getg in a box fight with my duo and every team we face just leaves cause they suck

its annoying

[deep parcel]

ooh

yeah thats why I basically only do either zero build or main stage

main stage mostly

[frigid stag]

How do you even build properly

I can figure out some of it like getting up high and doing 90s

[deep parcel]

Ill be on the look out for that one... I wanted something around May because RoadCraft is coming out soon.

[frigid stag]

But when they go up as well and start doing boxes and piece control or whatever it’s called I get smoked

[misty sparrow]

you just have to cook

[frigid stag]

Cuz I have no clue where they even are and they shot gun me

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-walter-white-walter-white-gaming-breaking-bad-gaming-breaking-bad-gif-26586408

[frigid stag]

That’s why I just start following them

Go behind them and then boom

Ggs

[rancid juniper]

after seeing this new mob i already can see the amount of stuff people gonna do, stuff like this for example

😂

[frigid stag]

New mob?

Ghasts always were a thing

[rancid juniper]

na this time, it can be tamed

or something

[tranquil pebble]

not ridable smiling ghasts

[rancid juniper]

^

[tranquil pebble]

those are new

[worn wave]

You find like a dehydrated mini ghast in the nether and can rehydrate it in the overworld

[rancid juniper]

ive seen a similar image where it was carrying a boat with 2 creepers bruh, they droppin BOMBS

[frigid stag]

Then some mf on Twitter thinks they’re a genius for figuring that out 10 years later

[rancid juniper]

new villager transportation

[tranquil pebble]

pet ghast goes hard

[misty sparrow]

I hope none of the memes used the cherry blossom biome

[worn wave]

The bigger update imo is linking multiple mobs with leads

[rancid juniper]

🤔

[misty sparrow]

-# if you cant figure it out then you're on your own

[rancid juniper]

hmmm, what are cherry blossoms affiliated with?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[misty sparrow]

hmmmmmmmmm

[rancid juniper]

i cant tell sorry

[misty sparrow]

yeah i don't know, just rambling

i dont know what cherry blossoms have to do with bombs

they're trees

[rancid juniper]

ok but they need to make Minecraft 2

Cherryblossom Hero----brine dlc

[misty sparrow]

add actual nuclear bombs

okay nevermind

[rancid juniper]

bruh

turning minecraft into FallMine by bethesda

nah that name sucks

FallCraft or MineFall sounds better

[misty sparrow]

there already was a fallout minecraft resource pack

on the console versions

[rancid juniper]

👀

cool

[frigid stag]

I haven’t played it in so long the wandering trader and pandas are still new to me

That’s when I last played

[dense locust]

since minecraft and betheda are owned by the same company that means we can get more minecraft crossovers

[rancid juniper]

thats like, a couple of years ago

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-mmmm-interesting-batman-gif-11990772

Knowing that there's minecraft spinoffs like dungeons who knows

[frigid stag]

I remember when story mode came out

[rancid juniper]

memory unlocked

Telltale games was something else

[dense locust]

every minecraft spinoff seems to fail one way or the other

[keen jackal]

i bought a 3070 less then a month ago and i’m already upgrading to a 3080💀 🙏

[frigid stag]

Yo I even had the red stone guide books

💀

[dense locust]

dont upgrade to the same generation

[frigid stag]

It’s basically next generation

2080 - 3080 type upgrade

[tranquil pebble]

imagine Shin Megami Tensei x Minecraft

[rancid juniper]

NOT THE GOAT STORY MODE

[dense locust]

ok tell me where to buy the game
ill wait

[rancid juniper]

atlus ah resource pack

[keen jackal]

with context it makes more sense but idk if yall care

[rancid juniper]

😔

[dense locust]

3080 with 10gb or 12

[rancid juniper]

blame the devs/publisher

game was dope

[keen jackal]

the founders edition so i think 10g

[frigid stag]

Why tf are the colors on my screen all messed up

It’s like everything got mixed together

[rancid juniper]

not worth the jump lmfao

unless you sold your 3070

[frigid stag]

It’s a decent upgrade

Like 30%

[dense locust]

[frigid stag]

Or slightly more

[keen jackal]

crazy thing is i’m making a profit from this upgrade 💀

[rancid juniper]

wat

[keen jackal]

i got a whole pc with ryzen 1600 and 3080 for 540

[frigid stag]

People upgraded from 2080tis to 3080s which was an even smaller upgrade

[rancid juniper]

oh... not bad

😳

[frigid stag]

Especially since you could overclock it and get similar perf

[rancid juniper]

in these cursed times this is basically insane luck

[dense locust]

1600 my god

[rancid juniper]

that CPU needs an upgrade tho

huge bottleneck

[dense locust]

who decided on a 1600 and a 3080

[frigid stag]

Probably put in what he had

[rancid juniper]

average ah cursed configs

[keen jackal]

im slapping the 3070 into that one reselling for hopefully 500 and yawing spare parts to help sell my 1660 ti in another build for 200 usd hopefully

[worn wave]

I figure he's just putting the 3080 into an existing buikd

[dense locust]

whats that called? ryzen 0?

[frigid stag]

Zen 1

[dense locust]

i thought zen 1 was 2000

[rancid juniper]

alr

[frigid stag]

2000?

[keen jackal]

guy said he upgraded to 5080 and said he put together the cheapest possible system to resell

[frigid stag]

That was zen plus

[dense locust]

but why

[rancid juniper]

because idk, refresh?

[frigid stag]

I wouldn’t mind a 1600. Would make a good server cpu or for nas

[rancid juniper]

well an upgrade over zen 1

[dense locust]

nvm i guess it doesnt exist according to amd

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[dense locust]

what a crazy insane jump from zen 1 to zen 2

[frigid stag]

Why are they missing the 12nm

[rancid juniper]

Zen 3 makes AM4 look like a powerhouse still

✅

[keen jackal]

wait it’s been a while since i looked into cpus how long did it take intel to move on from 14 nm

[frigid stag]

They didn’t need to. It took amd until almost 2021 to beat a 2014/15 architecture

[dense locust]

isnt comparing nm from different companies like comparing apples to oranges

[worn wave]

zen 3 x3d chips being ~= to the zen 4 7600 really cemented am4 as a goat chipset

[frigid stag]

Skylake is that old

[dense locust]

3d cache so expensive

[frigid stag]

Need 15900K l4 cache

Would leave amd in the Middle Ages

[worn wave]

Isn't l4 just ram

[frigid stag]

No

Intel used to have l4 cache CPU’s

[worn wave]

Huh

[frigid stag]

5775c

And 5770c

[worn wave]

Was that like the weird apu with 4gb vram onboard the chip

[frigid stag]

It had 128mb l4 cache

[worn wave]

Ok diff thing then

[frigid stag]

I guess technically all their CPU’s were apus since they had igpu built in

[worn wave]

Ah this is what I was thinking about
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i7-8809g.c1980

[rancid juniper]

absolutely

[rancid juniper]

kinda wish the 5600x3d wasn't exclusive

would've sold very well

[frigid stag]

Only microcenter right?

[worn wave]

5700x3d sold/is selling well on AliExpress lol

[rancid juniper]

yea

[frigid stag]

They should’ve given the 5950x3d a go

[fresh timber]

my nas is a 2300x

[worn wave]

Had this in it, 4gb HMB2 for the gpu

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-vega-m-gh.c3056

[fresh timber]

those old cpus are pefectly fine in 2025

o hell no

hellllll no

[rancid juniper]

don't like using this but this might be the case

or the fact that its a huge challenge to do this

[dense locust]

better buy before may 2nd

[fresh timber]

terrifs

?

should i be worried about gpus? i graduate may 16 and i wanna get a new gpu around that time

[dense locust]

thats when the exception runs out

$200 cost PER item

[worn wave]

Stock dried up pretty sure, cause 7500F is still cheap

[fresh timber]

i swore they got rid of the technology tarrifs

[fresh timber]

cause prices would be too high

[dense locust]

or 145%

whatever the company chooses

[worn wave]

GPUs have an exclusion pretty sure

[dense locust]

they do not

[fresh timber]

im pretty sure smartphones and computer components do

[worn wave]

Silicon stuff

[dense locust]

at least if trump's truth is to go by

[worn wave]

Becuse it's from Taiwan

[dense locust]

by truth i mean his stupid twitter copycat

[fresh timber]

reminder, FACts only no poltical opinions or what ever

this is about tetch

[fresh timber]

NO

that has nothing to do with computers

[dense locust]

no im talking about oh nvm

[worn wave]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/tech/trump-electronics-china-tariffs/index.html

[misty sparrow]

story mode was underrated tbh

[dense locust]

who knows what is exempt tbh

[fresh timber]

gpu prices should be safe

[rancid juniper]

yep

[misty sparrow]

now you can't legally play it anymore

[fresh timber]

thats beyond the rules of this server

[misty sparrow]

unless you got it beforehand

[dense locust]

hard to not talk about it when its effecting everything soon

but lets talk about other things

[rancid juniper]

ryzen 3 x3d

still nothing

[dense locust]

9800x3d is too expensive

$479

amd is getting too high for their horses

[worn wave]

High demand drives up the price

[frigid stag]

Lol imagine if it competed with am5

[worn wave]

Intel needs to step up their game

[rancid juniper]

they would've made the strongest quad cores in history if they did that with ryzen 3

[dense locust]

why did it have to drive the 7800x3d too

[frigid stag]

Tbf 5800x3d already was taking away sales from am5 probably

[rancid juniper]

would be funny af since the 5800x3d iirc competes against the ryzen 5 7600

[worn wave]

Probably not any more than 5700x3d and 5800x3d already are

[frigid stag]

Probably would’ve beaten most of the stack

[frigid stag]

It was meant to be single ccd according to that image

Idk how accurate it is

[dense locust]

5000 series x3d is weird imo

[rancid juniper]

most?? maybe up to like the highest end of ryzen 5 but thats wishful thinking

[frigid stag]

Could’ve had extra cache

[worn wave]

If you mean the ai overview, it's saying that the 5800x3d is single ccd but the 5950x3d likely wouldn't be and thus wouldn't be much better for gaming

[rancid juniper]

first design, so it had its issues

such as heat

[dense locust]

isnt 7000 series 3d also still gen 1?

[fresh timber]

5800x3d and 5800x in one?

[misty sparrow]

its funny how the first topic that gets discussed after everyone went "we dont know what to talk about lets talk about something different" is to collectively dunk on AMD

[worn wave]

Idk what you're saying

[fresh timber]

ccd

you take a 5800x3d and a 5800x, smush em and now you have 5950x3d

[worn wave]

Oh I see lol

[misty sparrow]

makes me wonder just how bad amd could've done recently

[fresh timber]

ew

the fact 5070 stock isnt bad makes me wanna get one

[misty sparrow]

is this in USD? god damn

[frigid stag]

Ah I assumed it would also be single ccd

[rancid juniper]

it used the same design philosophy so probably

[dense locust]

there's so many 50 series on msi website just get one from there

[rancid juniper]

since it was also plagued with heat issues

[frigid stag]

Single ccd ryzen 9 x3d would be nice

Even if just 12 cores instead of 16

[fresh timber]

if they got em in may hell yeah

[rancid juniper]

becomes rebadged ryzen 7 or something

[frigid stag]

Like the 5900xt

[rancid juniper]

cant believe that was a thing

[frigid stag]

Basically lower bin 5950x

[rancid juniper]

they out there binning everything instead of making a ryzen 3 x3d

way to go amd

[fresh timber]

3dv in gpus when

stacking gpu cache for better performance

[rancid juniper]

wild

[dense locust]

i thought xt was only for their gpus until i saw one on their cpus i think thats stupid

[rancid juniper]

i dont think it will make a difference tho

[fresh timber]

its like 100mhz slower too slap a 100mhz oc and see if it works, now you have a 5950x

[rancid juniper]

bet they'll slap on a "K" on their next binned chip

K = OC Extreme DLC

[frigid stag]

[dense locust]

[rancid juniper]

AMD slowly turns blue afterwards

the rest is up to your interpretation

[fresh timber]

i like how intel is irrelivant this generation

[frigid stag]

They’re not, for productivity

[fresh timber]

9950x exist

[frigid stag]

285k is pretty efficient

I wouldn’t buy one but still

[fresh timber]

id rather the 9950x

[frigid stag]

It does what I need almost 400w to do in like 200

[fresh timber]

aye im prob going 5070 or something anywyas

msrp 5070ti would be nice

[rancid juniper]

hopefully Nvidia's RTX 5050 requires no additional power and its atleast as strong as an RTX 4060 (HUGE DOUBT)

[frigid stag]

~~ it’ll be the 5060~~

[rancid juniper]

5060D

[frigid stag]

XD

[novel ferry]

💀

[frigid stag]

5060XD

[frigid stag]

Ye the 5080 pcb isn’t really big either

[dense locust]

some gpu repair guy says amd gpus are hell to work on and i believe them

[frigid stag]

They’re really small this generation

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nrbp99/zotac-video-card-zt5070110m

[dense locust]

i mean its x8

[fresh timber]

why does this show hen i google 5070

[frigid stag]

This is your 5080

[dense locust]

nvidia's fe are magical

[fresh timber]

i wonder how a 5060 performs on a pcie gen 3 platofrm, like a 5800x3d+5070 in b450

[frigid stag]

Can you lower the gpu slot to pcie 3 on a pcie 4 board 🤔

[fresh timber]

i can lower mines

i have a gen 5 slot

im funna stream this summer, should i really invest in a capturcard to do dual streaming setup, i figured out how to get the microphone to work on two pcs so theirs no hickups i can spot rn

[frigid stag]

If they’re not expensive sure

It’s worth

[fresh timber]

I just need one that can copy a 1440p signal at 60hz

Cheap enough

What you do is you duplicate your main display to the capture card so you don’t gotta deal with jank

[frigid stag]

Do you need 2 pc to use capture card

[fresh timber]

Nvm

[fresh timber]

What’s the point of a capture card if your not using two pcs, or capturing something els 😭 but I changed my mind theirs issues with high refresh rate

Single pc it is

[frigid stag]

Idk maybe taking the load of recording off the gpu 😭

I guess not though

I’ve heard of people using 2 gpus one for streaming one for the game

[fresh timber]

It is but theirs causing a lot more problems than it fixes

[velvet summit]

Dual PC makes most sense for vtuvers nowadays due to how much load the software uses

[fresh timber]

And their not.. trying to game and stream off the setup, maybe they are but not to the extent I am

[velvet summit]

You could make a cheaper streaming setup with 2 PCs though since the streaming pc doesn't need anything crazy

[fresh timber]

I already have the two pcs anyways lol

[velvet summit]

So you can have a lower end gaming PC and a old ass office PC as the streaming pc

But yeah

[fresh timber]

2nd rig has a rx6600 and 5500 main is 13600kf 7700xt subject to change

This summer goin be lit, ima try some irl streaming, some streaming in my room, goin be lit

[frigid stag]

What’s the specs in that

[velvet summit]

I hate salt

It's so damn heavy

It's like the heaviest box in this warehouse

[stoic yacht]

How can I get a Bluetooth on my pc

[velvet summit]

If your MOBO has built in wifi, then download the drivers

If not, you'll need to buy a wifi card with bt or a dedicated usb bt adapter

[stoic yacht]

I don’t know how to do that

[velvet summit]

Do you know if your MOBO has built in wifi

[stoic yacht]

Wat is that I am new to pcs

[fresh timber]

Do you have WiFi

[stoic yacht]

I got the Wi-Fi adapter

it came with it

like it is like an antenna

[chrome mirage]

Why is the collectors edition of shadow of the erdtree cheaper for me to get from Japan than it is to get from the US

It would be 250 cad from Japan and 280 from the US

[chrome mirage]

I would say Bandai Namco rage baiting me but I can't really harm them.

[dense locust]

did you buy a prebuilt?

[stoic yacht]

Yah

[dense locust]

and your pc has wifi but not blutooth?

search for blutooth in search in settings

[stoic yacht]

It have the Wi-Fi adapter but it is an antenna

[hoary zodiac]

Is it a usb wifi adaptor?

Generally most modern built-in wireless cards supports bluetooth too

[stoic yacht]

So wat do I do

[hoary zodiac]

?

[stoic yacht]

Yah

[hoary zodiac]

Ok those may not actually have built in Bluetooth

[stoic yacht]

Oh

K

[dense locust]

wait your prebuilt didnt have wifi?

[pseudo raven]

its actually so sad

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

That's why it's a no brainer to get a m.2 wifi card

[stoic yacht]

It do

[hoary zodiac]

They can be dirt cheap

[pseudo raven]

makes me feel more justified for driving to microcenter at 4am to get a 9070 xt

[stoic yacht]

But I don’t have a Bluetooth

[hoary zodiac]

Is the "wifi adapter" separate to the computer?

[dense locust]

but if you're using usb why arent u using wifi from pc

[stoic yacht]

I have the Wi-Fi adapter but it doesn’t have Bluetooth

[dense locust]

[stoic yacht]

Yah I just have to plug it in the usb port

[dense locust]

did your pc come with the wifi adaptor?

[hoary zodiac]

Ok so the prebuilt doesn't have wifi

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

Case closed

[stoic yacht]

Yes

[dense locust]

thats...

why

[hoary zodiac]

Cost saving measures

Something something shipping, economy of scale

[stoic yacht]

I can send u a picture of the Wi-Fi adapter

[pseudo raven]

wtf

prebuilt with no wifi

in the big 25

thanks obama

[dense locust]

send a pic of the pc instead

[stoic yacht]

K

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine if it's LGA 775

[pseudo raven]

i refuse to believe it doesnt have one actually

[dense locust]

i hope it isnt proprietary

[hoary zodiac]

It's more common than you think

For older motherboards

[stoic yacht]

I send u the friend request

[pseudo raven]

in a new prebuilt?

[hoary zodiac]

could be new old stock

[stoic yacht]

@dense locust

[dense locust]

you can send me dms without friend requesting me

[hoary zodiac]

Non us-market gets wacky

[dense locust]

unless you have them block yourself

[stoic yacht]

I am dming u not responding

[pseudo raven]

i feel like any prebuilt int he last 10 years would have one especially considering

[hoary zodiac]

Eh

[frigid stag]

Is this guy dumb or am I missing something. Why would the 30 series have melting connectors at all

[hoary zodiac]

Remember

[pseudo raven]

the target audience for a prebuilt

[dense locust]

ah sorry message requests are annoying

[hoary zodiac]

Non us markets

[pseudo raven]

the 30 series did have some melting connectors didnt it

[frigid stag]

The 12 pin melting is on 40 series and 50 series

[pseudo raven]

or am i remembering wrong

[frigid stag]

Nope

[pseudo raven]

not on the 70 at all though

[frigid stag]

Well there was one or 2 but in prototypes

3090 ti

[hoary zodiac]

I think it was mostly 40 series

[frigid stag]

Same connector as the 4090 iirc

[hoary zodiac]

Although it is entirely possible

[frigid stag]

No melting card in consumer hands

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna see if 3090tis even melted

[frigid stag]

In testing labs ye

[hoary zodiac]

Errrrr

No major reports of melting

[frigid stag]

But actual real world use in consumer hands none have melted

[dense locust]

it is usb connected wifi

[hoary zodiac]

Is that retroactive testing

After 40 series released?

I see a lot of 4090s but not 3090s

[frigid stag]

Before

Iirc gamers nexus made a video on it

When they stress tested 3090tis some melted (the manufacturers ig not gamers nexus)

[hoary zodiac]

My theory is that the 3090tis had better power distribution

That's why they are largely safe

And doesn't melt outside lab conditions

[frigid stag]

Mine is that less people bought them

Cause they came out later on. Most enthusiasts and people who wanted a flagship already had a 3090

Plus the prices on them were insane for awhile

[hoary zodiac]

Eh

[dense locust]

they dont have a gpu

[hoary zodiac]

I doubt it

[dense locust]

but yes the motherboard doesnt have wifi

[hoary zodiac]

If 3090TIs are melting there would be coverage

[frigid stag]

They have higher power draw than the 4090 so

Unless the connector is different they would’ve melted too

[hoary zodiac]

Which really just reinforces the lack of shunt resistor theory

[frigid stag]

Ye could be that. absolutely

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not qualified so at most I can theorise based on expert information

[frigid stag]

Apparently the astral is safe from the melting cause the connector is “better”

[hoary zodiac]

But nvidia is trolling hard with these recent gpus

I want to see the Sapphire 9070XT

[frigid stag]

It’ll probably be fine

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine if it just doesn't melt at all

[frigid stag]

It’s like 5070ti/ 5080 power draw

[hoary zodiac]

Well it probably wont because like

There's not enough power

[frigid stag]

No 5070tis melting so far

I’ve seen people be avoiding them cause of the connector

[worthy meteor]

buildzoid talked about it
https://youtu.be/kb5YzMoVQyw

[hoary zodiac]

My theory is that the cards were melting because of all the factors combined rather than one single thing

[frigid stag]

True

[worthy meteor]

3090ti had some melting from improper insertion

rare but happened

that's why they updated the spec

[frigid stag]

Which

[hoary zodiac]

12vhpwr being sketchy, Nvidia's crackhead engineering, etc

[frigid stag]

They kinda scrimped on it

They can pull through so clutch when they want to

[hoary zodiac]

You'd think with gpus melting

[frigid stag]

They just decided not to

[hoary zodiac]

They'll double down on the "let's make our GPUs NOT melt"

[frigid stag]

Ye you’d think they wouldn’t skip the most important part

[hoary zodiac]

But no they've been getting progressively worse

People used to buy Nvidia because they just worked

Now they're...

Well there's the 5070s

[frigid stag]

They did until the recent driver issues

[hoary zodiac]

They're good imo

5080,5090

Ehhhhh

[frigid stag]

They fixed like 12 things in the recent update

That’s weird cause I see most people say only the high end ones are worth buying

[hoary zodiac]

Doesn't help that the 5080/5090 issues are compounded by missing ROPs and availability issues

[hoary zodiac]

On paper yes

In reality no

In this market

The 5070s are the only good ones

[frigid stag]

Prices are falling at least

[hoary zodiac]

I ain't paying over 1K for a 5080

[frigid stag]

Cheapest 5090 rn is 3.39k

[hoary zodiac]

Imo even at msrp it's a mediocre card

Only worth it for 4K gamers

[frigid stag]

I mean it’s the biggest performance increase in the whole gen so far

But costs like 2x the 5080

[hoary zodiac]

Exactly

[frigid stag]

It sorta replaced 5080 sli

It’s double it in every spec almost

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair

I'd take a 5090 over sli any day

The value would probably be worse with 5080 sli tbh

[frigid stag]

It’s pretty impressive I can’t lie

To make it so small

[hoary zodiac]

It's impressive until you remember the screw ups

This whole generation is a disappointment

[frigid stag]

It’s kind of a refresh

[hoary zodiac]

Intel practically doesn't exist this gen (for cpus at least)

AMD's pretty mediocre aside from X3Ds

[frigid stag]

Ye pretty much

[hoary zodiac]

Radeons are ok but msrp cards are gone

[frigid stag]

12 p core CPU’s from intel soon at least

No need for new motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

Really intel and Radeon should be competing

But they're not

I am really excited for next gen intel tho

I feel like they've got something cooking

[worthy meteor]

It exists but Intel doesn't make the price competitive, outside of very specific tasks

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that's the thing really

[frigid stag]

It’s funny cuz the 12 p cores are going on lga1700

[worthy meteor]

another year before 18a smh

[hoary zodiac]

Core ultra is a good product but priced very terribly

Core ultra is what 14th gen should've been

[frigid stag]

Kind of a gigachad move to extend it to 4 gens

[hoary zodiac]

They're probably pulling a Ryzen

To try to win back consumers

[worthy meteor]

I have hope for 18a chips to be good but I have no trust in Intel making anything better for the current platform

[hoary zodiac]

Core ultra shows a lot of promise

They just have to not screw it up

Which...

Well it's intel

In big tech you don't expect them to screw up

But they always do

[frigid stag]

Ye it’s the case most of the time with new hardware launches

It’s not ideal being day 1 adopter

[hoary zodiac]

well that's the thing

they're improving on existing tech

and they still manage to screw it up

it's not like bulldozer

where you can at least understand why it failed

but in 2025

Intel, Nvidia and AMD are quite literally just trolling the market

[frigid stag]

I mean core ultra screwed up cause they tried to do the chiplet thing wrong

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't say they screwed up

I think core ultra is good

just priced pretty badly

[gentle canyon]

ryzen > radeon

[hoary zodiac]

and didn't have any meaningful performance gains

[frigid stag]

They did fix it with bios updates

[hoary zodiac]

compared to 14th gen

[gentle canyon]

ryzen > amd

[frigid stag]

Maybe now it doesn’t get diffed by a 12th gen i5 in cyberpunk

[hoary zodiac]

Ryzen this gen is mediocre too

Core ultra is when intel decided to pull a risky move

and well

[frigid stag]

It’s better than stagnating I guess

[gentle canyon]

fastest chips on the planet and its mediocre

[hoary zodiac]

the product is a failure

but the chips themselves are pretty good

[frigid stag]

🤔

[hoary zodiac]

looking at the efficiency improvements

they're really promising

they've made improvements on mobile too

[frigid stag]

True

[hoary zodiac]

that's why I'm excited for next gen

[frigid stag]

I hope 149KS isn’t the last good cpu for a long time

For gaming

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe we'll have some competition so AMD doesn't get away with Ryzen 9000 level shenanigans

AMD is really pulling a Kaby Lake with Ryzen 9000

at least we have X3D

[frigid stag]

Now just need l4 intel

Idk why they don’t at least try it

[hoary zodiac]

Well it took them this long to adopt chiplets

[frigid stag]

Thing is they did do it before

It just got ignored for some reason

[hoary zodiac]

Boeing level engineering

[frigid stag]

They weren’t expensive compared to the main cpus, was like 370 for a 5775c

128mb cache l4

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe because they were quad cores

I think that's still in the era where intel didn't care enough

That's probably the main reason tbh

[frigid stag]

Ye no competition

They didn’t make 6 cores mainstream till years later

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder why

[frigid stag]

Bulldozer excavator and pile driver

[hoary zodiac]

The fact that they pushed out coffee lake so quickly shows that they knew how to make good 6 core chips

They just didn't care

[frigid stag]

I mean they had them before on x99

6800k cost about the same

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah but not on consumer platforms

Power draw is insane

[frigid stag]

6800k isn’t bad iirc for power draw but it wasn’t much better till you oc’d it

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

It also isn't that accessible

Compared to Ryzen & Coffee lake

[frigid stag]

And games weren’t even making use of the extra cores so barely anyone bought them unless they were enthusiasts or for work

[hoary zodiac]

FX does not count

Fake cores

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair

With how much HEDT costed back then

People don't buy 8 cores for gaming

[frigid stag]

6 was pretty cheap compared to 6700k

[hoary zodiac]

Hence no need to optimise for it

[frigid stag]

And a lower end x99 board

But after 6 cores the prices jumped so high

[hoary zodiac]

Still

[frigid stag]

8c for almost 1k

And then 10 for 1200 or so

[hoary zodiac]

You also have to consider the overall market share

Of HEDT platforms vs consumer platforms

Prebuilt gaming pcs were all on quad cores

Which made up the majority of the market

High core counts in games was practically a niche market before Ryzen

It only became mainstream because it became accessible to the consumer

[frigid stag]

Ye you could basically buy a 200$ used optiplex pc with a quad core in 2016 or 2015 and it would still be pretty close to the newer stuff

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

I wonder why

[frigid stag]

With like a 2500k or something

[hoary zodiac]

The great bulldozer disaster of the 2000s

[frigid stag]

at least there were cheap pcs

Not much for advancements though

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

Was it tho

[frigid stag]

Meanwhile gpus the other way

Huge gains

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine paying for a new pc in that era

Instead of a used sandy bridge

And then overclocking the hell out of it

[frigid stag]

Ye the high end hardware were expensive

400 bucks for 1 or 2tb ssd storage

[hoary zodiac]

The fact that X99 is still realistically viable today just shows how stagnant the market was

They had the means to make a really good consumer chip

But no

Le monopoly

[frigid stag]

I mean if games weren’t becoming more demanding it’s chilling

[hoary zodiac]

Well that's the thing

[frigid stag]

If games are advancing but hardware isn’t then you have a problem

[hoary zodiac]

It wasn't becoming more demanding because the hardware was stagnant

[frigid stag]

Now they’re becoming more demanding but for diminishing returns in graphics “improvements”

[hoary zodiac]

That's more of a studio skill issue imo

[frigid stag]

ray tracing is nice but wanting to make it a requirement is too far imo

[hoary zodiac]

AAA slop doesn't compare to GTA V

[frigid stag]

True

[hoary zodiac]

Graphically it may be better

But the gameplay is inferior

[frigid stag]

the graphics don’t make up for lack of story

[hoary zodiac]

Hell I'd say that GTA V is still pretty impressive today

With how immersive the world is

[frigid stag]

Or bad gameplay

[hoary zodiac]

relative to modern games btw

[frigid stag]

Yh tons of people still play gta

And gta online

[hoary zodiac]

A decade old game

That runs on the literal xbox 360

Is still a better experience than the "epic ray tracing 16x the details AAA slop"

Graphics are meant to enhance the experience

They're not supposed to be the experience

I hate AAA

[frigid stag]

Exactly

[hoary zodiac]

This is why I don't need to upgrade from my 3070

There is just no reason to

Games aren't worth my money

[frigid stag]

There’s a few good ones but there weren’t a whole lot last year

You can still play new triple a games on it at least

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

I'll probably play VR at most

[frigid stag]

Just need to ignore the rt epic overdrive max and it’ll run fine

[hoary zodiac]

I have a 3070 mobile

So

Not dreaming of RT

I mean I can run RT technically

But it's on the low end of RT hardware

I really just bought the gpu for the vram to run VR

Like

RT isn't a gimmick

But the studios use it like a gimmick

If pre-baked lighting runs and looks better

Then we have a problem

[worn wave]

Tbf the older consoles have significantly turned down settings and lower base resolutions

[hoary zodiac]

Still tho

GTA V was a pretty revolutionary title

When it came out

I would certain buy a

What is it

Kepler?

GTX 780TI?

To run it at ultra

That game is worth the $699

Of a 780TI

[worn wave]

I've never really understood GTA tbh

[hoary zodiac]

It's mindless fun

You go around

Steal cars and shoot people

[worn wave]

Yeah exactly, it's just "being a criminal" simulator

Never understood why that was so popular

[hoary zodiac]

Car go vroom vroom

Guns go brr

That's why

Male neuron activation

That's more of a GTA RP thing

Accurate representation of American society

Oh I thought it was in a GTA server

Ahahhaha

[novel ferry]

single tower cooler and not even properly mount

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine throttling

IMAGINE THROTTLING ON A NON X3D

HOW

Even on a 9900X on a single tower that's a skill issue

I don't get why flat earth exists

When it's literally easier to believe that it's round

If the earth was flat

Someone would've made the edge a tourist attraction

Like

We can go to space by going off the edge

And like how tf is space going to work

It make LESS sense

[tranquil pebble]

Flat earther mental gymnastics are just absurd

[worthy meteor]

flat earth always feels like describing earth as like a toilet paper roll with Antarctica on the end

[hoary zodiac]

How does that make more sense than a globe

I don't get it

[worthy meteor]

they really want their ice wall

[hoary zodiac]

Because gravity would exist in our current form

And with how gravity works

The edges would just idk

Collapse

Into a spherical shape

[tranquil pebble]

exactly why all sufficiently large bodies in space are spherical

[hoary zodiac]

There are flights that fly over the arctic circle

Because it's a shorter distance

Flat earth logic would also make Russia a lot larger than it actually is

Which... It isn't

Russia is a big country but Mercator skews the hell out of it

Natural selection

[velvet summit]

They fell off the edge

[dusk knot]

Exactly

How else would they disappear

[hoary zodiac]

Measuring the actual land mass of Russia vs what the Mercator projection tells you is enough to break flat earthers

They probably are trolling

Brazil is half the size of Russia btw

[chrome mirage]

I'm a dinosaur earth guy

[lone mango]

ima onlyoffice guy

[lone mango]

Rock and stone to the heart

[chrome mirage]

I have the day off for my birthday should I play Deep Rock Galactic for the first time

my sister bought it so I have it through family share

[lone mango]

ya

[chrome mirage]

all I know about it is space dwarf

[lone mango]

Hey gunner

GUNNERR

[lone mango]

The dialogue is really silly

Spam x and v for fun moments

[chrome mirage]

Oof you have to play with other people. I don't really do that often but I'll give it a shot

[hoary zodiac]

Lethal company moment

[lone mango]

Nah you can do solo

[hoary zodiac]

I want to play lethal company with friends

[chrome mirage]

I want friends

[hoary zodiac]

My friends don't like horror games

[chrome mirage]

My friends don't game with me anymore