general-chat

[mortal grail]

2. They are holding A die from way back when

[idle nexus]

"hits" meaning you can make it hit or XMP?

[proud jackal]

Stable

[mortal grail]

Literally anything with cl32 or less

[proud jackal]

[idle nexus]

this is junk klev lol

[mortal grail]

If you want cudimm get a 6000 cl26 kit

Not that cudimm does anything outside of 15th gen

[proud jackal]

Cudimm

[mortal grail]

Clock gen sticks

Better clocking, but the board needs to understand what it is

[frigid stag]

Is the red on the gpu from the aio rgb

[mortal grail]

No he modded it

[idle nexus]

oh crap wait Felix

[mortal grail]

Lol

[idle nexus]

have you heard about this lossless scaling thing?

[mortal grail]

Long ass time ago

[frigid stag]

What how

[mortal grail]

Yes ofc

[frigid stag]

It looks dope

[idle nexus]

that's why a build with 3060 1080ti exists rn lol

[mortal grail]

buy rgb strip
stick strip inside cooler

[idle nexus]

cuz SLI 1080tis didn't seem to work right & I suspect SLI was involved

[frigid stag]

Fair enough lol

[mortal grail]

If the board has compatible plugs you can adapt it

Otherwise mobo header

[safe cape]

Hello

[mortal grail]

Goobai

[idle nexus]

that GPU looked like this when I got it in uh... 2021 lol

I took the shroud off

& if I can find the obnoxious pictures or videos...

[mortal grail]

I've known about lossless scaling since jan 2023@idle nexus

[idle nexus]

I'll settle for picture ig

[frigid stag]

Rgb strip would probably melt if I put one in my cooler xD

[idle nexus]

I'm trying to see if I can get it working

[mortal grail]

Rgb in existing gpus is just rgb strips with different headers

They last

The only thing you would really worry about is the brightness, bright af always lmao

[frigid stag]

Where do you even put it

[mortal grail]

But tangent to that, power draw if on the card plug

[mortal grail]

Inside the cooler. Spot varies

Use brain to hide

[frigid stag]

Wait is that gpu de shrouded

[mortal grail]

Yes he disassembled it

Lined the card, reassembled it

[safe cape]

guys can i mix 16x2 ram ddr4(gskill) + 8x2 ram (kingston) = total 48gb and activate XMP

[mortal grail]

I'm not familiar with the dual gpu way of doing it

[safe cape]

https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/185/1567584227/F4-3200C16D-32GIS-Specification + https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/HX432C16FB3K2_16.pdf

[idle nexus]

my first attempt went badly because I used pretty standard width, 10mm LEDs. I found these that are 5mm & they fit waaaay easier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RBVKLPX?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_29&th=1

[mortal grail]

If you want compatibility problems go for it

[idle nexus]

you can force frame gen onto the extra GPU

[mortal grail]

Very very very rare that mixing ram works

[frigid stag]

O I see

Nice

[mortal grail]

If you need more ram, sell your existing, go get a used 64gb kit@safe cape

[honest birch]

I hate little kids.

[safe cape]

already bought 32(16x2)

[mortal grail]

Reason being is there's too many oems that make ddr4, you can't guarantee you have the same oem when you run them together

[idle nexus]

5mm is the narrowest RGB strip I could find but maybe there are narrower

[mortal grail]

And that leads to slow fps

Corrupt windows

Bad boot times

Generally speaking you just don't do it unless you can physically confirm.identical chips

Which isn't the same as "buying the same article of ram I did before"

[lone mango]

Better graphics and more speed

[mortal grail]

Ram brands use all oems

And swap constantly

[lone mango]

Spoken like a true retail salesman

[safe cape]

i already mixed 2 8 gb sitcks in an old pc never saw a problem

[mortal grail]

Are you talking to an ai

[safe cape]

but ok i will use only 32 ram 16x2

and activate xmp thanks

[mortal grail]

Sometimes it's ok, like jedec at low speeds is often fine (e.g 2133). But you need to confirm the compatibility

Not to mention 8 and 16 in a channel is a challenge on it's own

There's just too much to unpack for mixing, it's just highly advised not to

Leads to way too many issues

[mortal grail]

Wait did bro really say don't buy walmart

I mean yeah if you're willing to risk an install

Edge is like, core process tree of windows now

You try to mess with it crap actually breaks lmao

Tf

Do you have a virus

Virus behaviour ngl

Watching too many onlyfans noctua shorts

Dude outlook was a virus in 2005 that's not gonna change 20 years later

[pliant berry]

you have to be careful about allowing notifications from sites on web browsers

[mortal grail]

And so you broke windows

Sus email

Was not

Lol

Old outlook was dodgy af

[frigid stag]

No that part came later

It switched from outlook to edge pop ups

[safe cape]

confirm you mean same brand ?

[mortal grail]

Same oem

So like

You buy two g.skill kits right

[pliant berry]

now im about to go on a rant. why is microsoft outlook and teams completely unusable on windows computers? most of my work and school emails will outright refuse to login on a windows pc, but if I use the mac version of the apps it's fine

[mortal grail]

G.skill uses like 5 oems

Samsung, nanya, hynix, micron etc

[safe cape]

interesting

[mortal grail]

Two kits can both say 3200 c16 but they use samsung and micron

And mixing those two causes the bad ram issues

Yeah that's what I mean edge is like integral now lmfao

Fine

[safe cape]

worst can happen is pc crash

not ram failure

[mortal grail]

Lost windows install

[safe cape]

okey

[mortal grail]

It starts with bad fps

Then constant crashing

Then blue screens out the ass

Finally "windows could not be repaired"

Not sure but I tried it myself recently on a very stable build and I killed it

Lmao

There might be a proper way, but the expected way doesn't seem to work ime

[pliant berry]

pc fire

[mortal grail]

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/maureen-linda-delete-delete-my-computer-bin-gif-11835606

me right now

[idle nexus]

heck the free version of Lossless Scaling that's on Ghost-Spectre is only version 2.13.2... I think they're at least on 3.1

guess I gotta pony up $7 or something

[mortal grail]

Idk if that adds to the story at all but the behaviour def sounds virus-centric

Don't infect the server pls

Will mute ❤️

Got no idea tbh

I nuke anything I don't expect to pay for yearly off windows

Like office

I have a 99yr office license which still works

Yeah man, the old cds and windows keys were a guaranteed 99 years

It's a real thing

Ya cos compatibility

You need to import a windows key

But office just works

[pliant berry]

time to go digging through cds

[mortal grail]

Why pay for the same software when you can just install it again

And if they take that from me then google has free stuff

The google office tools are quite good

The only drawback to old office is keeping to traditional office behaviour

Which is basically no drawback

Norton when it's not downloaded off some crap tech manu oem software isn't malware it's just a bloaty virus software

The armoury crate/rgbfusion links are malware links

It's not real nortons

Lol mcaffee

Mcafe

How tf do I spell it samsung I forgot

Spell check useless

[pliant berry]

should I just get a ultrawide monitor eventually

[mortal grail]

It does, that one is at least not immediately bad

Real, that fish eye dof

Same

[pliant berry]

I used to play fps. not much anymore

[mortal grail]

But nortons I use on my work systems, it's annoying but it's actually saved me a number of times

For gaming no way

Bloaty ass crap

Lately I've been looking at cutting it back on their stuff tho

It's really bad if you don't buy the right one and install yourself

Mcaffee is just funny

I've been thinking about changing from nortons off my work rigs tho, cos while it has that 100% (and false positive) success rate, I wanna run something less distracting

I would never put it on a game rig but I'm considering other lighter alternatives

Work security #1

The main reason I have been slow to change tho is it's like $5 for 5 licenses

Lol

[pliant berry]

most systems I just keep malwarebytes for scanning when I need it. other than that I am pretty strict with how i download files or open links

[mortal grail]

No one buys Nortons so it's cheap af

Understandably so

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah but I've still had those rare occasions I'm grateful

Many AV now are extensions of other brands just rebranded

Like nortons is kapersky now iirc

Been that way a couple years

Yeah when you check the task manager, I forget if it's specifically kapersky but you can see the background task and it's another brand lmao

They don't even make the AV anymore

Ye

[pliant berry]

viruses often come in the form of pop ups. people have basically trained their brains to hit ok or accept with all the damn cookie and tos prompts on sites

[mortal grail]

I would always push defender or malware bytes for casual peeps

Rip

Pro tip, right click the x

If it says "open link" close the window

[pliant berry]

well I think kaspersky kind of changed their name since it was banned in a few countries due to them being russia based iirc?

[mortal grail]

Lol

[mortal grail]

Yes they did

They have an american brand now

[pliant berry]

speaking of security I've been getting mail about several medical and school databases getting compromised

[mortal grail]

Hackers have started looking to breaking mac systems of late since source code was broken

Ye

If it ain't broke don't fix it

[pliant berry]

I know some schools that still use xp or 7

[mortal grail]

If I could still use XP I would

Most stable windows ever

I will die on that hill

Lol

[pliant berry]

but this was the other companies that hold the records for grading, report cards and such that was compromised

[mortal grail]

7 was good but I never had a pc for 7

So I can only parrot others

I was using an apple at school

[mortal grail]

Can still happen. You know the most basic passwords can be cracked in hours by existing consumer hardware

Anything under like 10 complex characters can be cracked in <6 hours

[pliant berry]

oh of course

one of the companies I work for just increased their minimum length to 16 characters. some people weren't very happy about that xD

[mortal grail]

As it should be

Here's the stupid thing, while it may be crazy long, writing down a long ass password protects you from like 99.9% of risk

The other stuff like fingerprints

Face id

Password managers

[pliant berry]

or hey, password managers are pretty nice nowadays

[mortal grail]

All that have local data

You risk token loss that way

Pwm aren't the worst

[opaque sedge]

Whats a token?

[mortal grail]

Better than others

[pliant berry]

and that's why there is 2fa. just don't link 2fa to your pwm

[mortal grail]

But like if that company gets hacked or sells off the data (always happens) then you need constant upkeep

[mortal grail]

2fa works now if you don't use sms or phone

On old 3g or lower networks

Native 4g+ systems have encryption

[pliant berry]

that's why I get pissed when I see a site that only supports sms 2fa

like bruh

[mortal grail]

Email 2fa is good

[pliant berry]

yeah email is usually fine but i prefer passkey/security key

[mortal grail]

Ss7 is easily bypassed

But voip doesn't use ss7

So volte/vowifi

Which is 4g+

If your phone has no 3g/2g failover you can just use that

It's a bit of a misconception of people, but for good reason, cos knowing if you do in fact use voip isn't easy to work out

Email is good cos you can secure that pretty readily

Yeah so it's not safe

The conditions for it to happen tho is rare

So it's not like "ooo change now omg"

[pliant berry]

I thought they started dismantling the 3g network. I haven't seen even my old phone switch to 3g in years

[lone mango]

Yeah and they were lowkey about it

[mortal grail]

Some do just use voip and those are good phones

[velvet summit]

i just use google's password manager because im lazy ong

[mortal grail]

Not for games but yes

No I didn't like it

Felt mad uncomfortable

[hoary zodiac]

Glass mousepad more like ass mousepad

[lone mango]

I use keepass xc and back up the password db

[mortal grail]

Not a brand one lol

[pliant berry]

I have used a few hard pads including glass. main thing I didn't like was how often they needed to be cleaned

[mortal grail]

I was working

[velvet summit]

tbh i feel like glass skates makes more sense than glass mousepad? like, you're putting your hand on a cold ass sheet of glass

[lone mango]

I cant install linux

[mortal grail]

Yeah I use glass skates

[hoary zodiac]

Huh????

[lone mango]

Im doomed to use windows forever

[hoary zodiac]

Glass broke your linux?

[mortal grail]

Glass skates on a good cloth pad feels good to me

Artisan moment

[velvet summit]

SUPREME glass mousepad

💀

[mortal grail]

Way I see glass pads

[lone mango]

Rsync failed with exit code 11 on multiple drives and reformats

[mortal grail]

It's like

I'd use it to advertise my desk

[lone mango]

So I guess its the iso image

[mortal grail]

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

What kind of jank are you using

[velvet summit]

me when aphantasia

[mortal grail]

Dailying one is not for me

[hoary zodiac]

To install linux

[mortal grail]

They look great tho

[lone mango]

Installer cant unpack /run/rootfsbase

[mortal grail]

Designer

[lone mango]

Typical ventoy and iso

[honest birch]

💀

[lone mango]

I changed nothing

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

[mortal grail]

If you went to the nearest glass maker you could probably get that done for like 200

[hoary zodiac]

Why is it broken then?

[mortal grail]

Lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

Did you use the same iso?

[mortal grail]

Perhaps

[lone mango]

I used a new and the old one from January and still the same result

[mortal grail]

Cloth is my jam tho

[pulsar verge]

lowkey would this be worth it?

[hoary zodiac]

What distro are you using?

[mortal grail]

I like felt in fact

[lone mango]

Im reinstalling nobara

[hoary zodiac]

Was it working before?

[mortal grail]

Felt can feel really good

[lone mango]

I think grub is messing something up

[hoary zodiac]

Huh

What the jank

How are you reinstalling it tho?

[lone mango]

I have no clue man Im just thinking whatever

[lone mango]

Like normal. I just boot the iso and the live environment loads to install

[hoary zodiac]

But how

Did you wipe the partitions?

[lone mango]

With ventoy

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Do you have a dual boot?

Or is it just linux

[lone mango]

Grub still exists yes

[hoary zodiac]

As in with windows

Is it an option to wipe the efi partition is what I'm trying to ask

[lone mango]

Yeah but since nobara is gone there is no menu

[hoary zodiac]

huh?

[lone mango]

Ok hole on ill show

[hoary zodiac]

You should still be able to select windows boot manager from bios

[lone mango]

Oh yeah I can

Do I have to delete grub

[hoary zodiac]

Is the windows efi on a separate partition to the windows efi?

[mortal grail]

Bro prolly made them for 70 each then made off with 1000% profit like a jensen

[hoary zodiac]

There are tools to fix grub but if you're reinstalling just delete it

[mortal grail]

[hoary zodiac]

If the windows efi isn't in the same partition

Although

You can probably remove /boot/grub

[mortal grail]

What is this a spiritual journey

[hoary zodiac]

Not sure where fedora installs grub

But on arch it's /boot/grub

[mortal grail]

"I fly to, the great himalayas"

[hoary zodiac]

/boot being the mount point for your efi

[mortal grail]

"Search the underground caves for the perfect silica"

"I am gone 4 months"

[hoary zodiac]

Try ls /boot

[lone mango]

Maybe I can boot into live again and check

[hoary zodiac]

And then reinstall grub afterwards

Be careful when you're working with the efis

You don't want to accidentally delete windows boot manager

[lone mango]

Lets see in a few seconds here

[hoary zodiac]

Extra virgin olive oil

[mortal grail]

Wtf the meth crystal lore

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-owo-formula-gif-26971070

[mortal grail]

He's just openly admitting his 750 dollar glass were paperweights

[lone mango]

I guess this grub

[hoary zodiac]

Careful

[lone mango]

Because there is the other partition

[mortal grail]

Didn't expect to learn about "Virgin tempered glass" in 2025

[hoary zodiac]

One of the fat32 is the windows efi

[lone mango]

Im gonna double check lets see what the oracle says

[hoary zodiac]

Check what's actually inside the partitions

[frigid stag]

Apparently there’s toxic ones too

[mortal grail]

Oh no there's night district ones too?

[mortal grail]

Laced plutonium glass pads

[hoary zodiac]

I want a Krupp steel pad

[worn wave]

Sounds like he's basically saying it isn't worth it for a small operation to make them anymore

[mortal grail]

(Bent low quality)

The glass pad meta is evolving into like bloody csgo case lore

"Virgin hardened"

"Toxic field tested"

Dude glass had me 0% interested day one

Lol

[pliant berry]

have you seen wolf's mousepad collection?

[mortal grail]

Interesting concept but people overthink it

[pliant berry]

he has full hatsune miku collection 😭

[worn wave]

this dropped the same day I just had a class lecture about resin 3d printing lol
https://youtu.be/u8rvP4MVDJU

[dusk knot]

Something we can't afford

[sage sluice]

Hatsune miku fans scare me

[hoary zodiac]

X3D printer

Wtf

Thought you were some random

I was like "who the hell is meowlou"

[sage sluice]

I am random wdym

YwU

[pliant berry]

bruh everytime I try to use my pc for editing again I regret it

[hoary zodiac]

Anime pc parts costing $299 more for a crappy decal

[mortal grail]

What's wrong with it

[sage sluice]

Da veenki

Reesolv

[pliant berry]

soo many things

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-hatsune-miku-gif-13577308763406185420

[lone mango]

I cant mount the fat32 and see whats in it

[mortal grail]

But ur techie

How not fix

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-miku-jeremy-jeremy-elbertson-hatsune-miku-gif-13673919181631678531

[hoary zodiac]

Do you have the package that allows you to read ms file systems installed?

[lone mango]

I can read ntfs yeah

[sage sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fool-gif-25270662

[worn wave]

dragon lore mousepad

[lone mango]

But it seems grub is in the efi

[pliant berry]

rn I feel like im spending 10 minutes trying to drag files because windows hangs when you try to click and hold over 200 files. also windows doesn't nicely support application file drops, only area. and the amount of time windows gives until applications are suspended is wayyy too short

[hoary zodiac]

Which one

There's two

[lone mango]

Nah I just have 1

[mortal grail]

I bet I'd have better results if I took off the tempered side glass panel off my pc case

[hoary zodiac]

No

There's two fat32 partitions

One of them is the windows one

One of them is the grub one

[mortal grail]

Ah rip

[lone mango]

Oh in the picture? The fat32 on the bottom is for a different distro but it doesnt use grub. Gruh doesnt even detect it

The 2 gig fat32

[hoary zodiac]

🤨

Wtf?

Jank?

Ok here's the thing

[frigid stag]

Real

[worn wave]

I can drag around 1800 files without much lag, grasnted they're just screenshots so pretty small

[hoary zodiac]

Windows boot manager probably shares efi partitions with your grub

[frigid stag]

[hoary zodiac]

So you can't just delete the partition in this case

You'll have to mount it

[lone mango]

So there is a microsoft reserved partition and another small ntfs partition. Then there is the efi

[hoary zodiac]

And delete the grub inside it

[lone mango]

Thats what im thinking

[frigid stag]

He has a special surfacing method, they’d send a cease and desist if someone copied it

[hoary zodiac]

Surfacing?

[frigid stag]

Ig maybe not anymore since they don’t make them

[frigid stag]

Ye for the glass pads

[mortal grail]

Yep that's real

[frigid stag]

I’m not sure how they make them

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-submarine-ussr-cccp-russia-gif-15920589168821534024

[pliant berry]

the suspend is really stupid too. windows essentially always keeps external storage devices hot yet it has to re seek the files if I accidentally click in a wrong spot on the app? meanwhile macos puts the drive to sleep and still is able to re access it faster

[frigid stag]

My reaction

[mortal grail]

He wouldn't notice he'd be stuck in the himalayan caves for 4 months

[frigid stag]

😭

[hoary zodiac]

The Kriegsmarine had submarines in the Himalayas?

[mortal grail]

I mean you could copy less at a time no

[hoary zodiac]

Did they submerge in the black sea

Go under the caucasus mountains

Come out in the caspian sea

[sage sluice]

Im going to submerge in the red sea

And drink it

[hoary zodiac]

And then go through a secret underground cave system

To end up in the Himalayas

[sage sluice]

God have you ever seen those cave deaths videos

Theyre so scary 😭

[hoary zodiac]

Cave diving submarines

Not only will you be stuck

You will die by explosive decompression

[sage sluice]

Cave diving is s*cide

[pliant berry]

ideally not but I don't think that's the full problem. I think this app uses metadata to select the specific files, also the fact that I am drag dropping files from an app that is accessing the drive rather than the drive itself in file explorer

[worn wave]

oh like you're not using the native file explorer window, I see

[proud jackal]

4090s selling for $2.2K

[pliant berry]

nah, native explorer sucks with load times on raw files

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

Sell your 4090s

[proud jackal]

Time to sell

[hoary zodiac]

You will make bank

[surreal comet]

No more RTX

Return to GTX

[pliant berry]

but you can sell to me for 500 right?

[hoary zodiac]

Bro can sell a 4090 for a XTX

[proud jackal]

No

[pliant berry]

it is my b day afterall

[hoary zodiac]

And still have like 1K left over

[pliant berry]

🥹

[surreal comet]

Selling my GPU
April fool

[proud jackal]

Happy birthday, my gift is I let you live another year

[worn wave]

iirc this can have to do with it trying to load extra data, cause when I'm viewing raws they change appearance slightly after a second or so

not sure if an extension or something could help with that or what

[hoary zodiac]

April fools for nvidia: there is actual supply at msrp

[surreal comet]

April fools is just a stock update

[hoary zodiac]

Stock plummets

Take that shareholders

[surreal comet]

April fools you're bankrupt 💜

[pliant berry]

yeah that's why I use separate app. color managed and it trys to keep as many files as possible in ram so I don't have to wait for it to render

[mortal grail]

Theo telling a ghost they can live another year was also not on my 2025 list

[craggy shoal]

I blew up Malaysia

[surreal comet]

Again? Get new material

[north crescent]

b day? Bloodborne day????
Interesting day to celebrate, but happy Bloodborne day

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/taiga-aisaka-sad-toradora-roll-fetal-position-gif-11233534

[mortal grail]

For some reason I can edit ur roles

What

Oh not the mod role that's why

Thought I'd ascended to some higher admin somehow

[pliant berry]

lol

[worn night]

Yes

[pliant berry]

honestly maybe I am just due for a pc upgrade too. I am regularly seeing my ram usage hit 97% with ocassional cpu hangs

[north crescent]

Native explorer has terrible indexing of names and metadata, and yet many file types seem to require certain metadata before it can be displayed. I've had certain pains trying to not make explorer freeze for 5s - 15s when viewing folders of like ~15+ ogg files. iirc I had to delete some registry stuff for ogg file defaults

[frigid stag]

What’s the specs

[young pulsar]

Should I get something from VEPKHIA ESITASHVILI

[pliant berry]

oh Im not even just complaining about explorer. I am just special lol. having to wait more than 1-2 seconds for a ~20MB image to load can end up costing me several hours for some shoots

the joys of action photography

[random osprey]

ill let you borrow the hatsune miku pad for 3 months if youre willing to fly here to cali

[pliant berry]

9900k 16gb ddr4 3070ti

[pliant berry]

haha idk about cali but i might go to arizona over the summer

[frigid stag]

Ah might need ram upgrade then

32gb for photo editing is probably worth it or maybe even 64

[pliant berry]

oh most definitely, but then its a question of do I take the good enough route or just go straight to ddr5 and upgrade the cpu, mobo as well

[frigid stag]

I mean 32 is pretty affordable and 64 is close to that

Unless the cpu is also getting maxed out

[pliant berry]

yeah it's not that expensive anymore

[pliant berry]

depends what I am doing at the time really

[frigid stag]

You can probably get a cpu combo for cheap if you have a microcenter

But if not ram might be good enough of an upgrade

[pliant berry]

actually maybe I need a monitor upgrade. I can't even tell if image is in focus without zooming in 😭

[random osprey]

nah, upgrade your eyes instead

new Terminator eyes

[pliant berry]

oh u right

[icy ore]

I need that

I’m blind as a bat, man

[frigid stag]

Don’t you have 1440p

[north crescent]

Nah, upgrade the air inbetween eyes and monitor instead. It's like smart glasses, but more natural

DIrty normal air sucks. Smart clean air better

[pliant berry]

its so fuzzy

[lone mango]

The autism continues

[hoary zodiac]

My brother in christ what are you doing

[lone mango]

Wow look fedora boot option is gone

Lets try to reinstall again

[hoary zodiac]

But is grub still here

[lone mango]

Doesn’t look like it

[hoary zodiac]

Pog

[lone mango]

Hahahaha

[hoary zodiac]

So

It works?

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

Or nah

[lone mango]

Yeah it works

And this is me rn

[hoary zodiac]

Average Linux suffering

[lone mango]

I spent so much time today

[hoary zodiac]

Oses are really just pick your poison

Oops

[lone mango]

Bro if I had a full time job I might have stuck with windows for longer

[hoary zodiac]

At least you're not a special person like me who use window managers

I've gotten so used to WMs I legit can't go back anymore

The WM rabbit hole is insane

[mortal grail]

Fractal north arrived

Build time

[median frigate]

https://youtu.be/c5A1mqaBYiY?si=OiV3I7uDiWEKzIHc

Thoughts on this case?

[mortal grail]

Good case

Read yo mind fam

[median frigate]

I'm wondering if I should go smaller

But this can have a 300mm gpu in it

[mortal grail]

That one is good if you don't go beyond a 240mm aio or dual tower

If you want similar or rather better use of volume Dan A3 mATX is a lot nicer

Much nicer compatibility

[median frigate]

Wdym nicer compatibility

[mortal grail]

Fits like 365mm of gpu if you build correctly

[median frigate]

Ah I see what you mean

[sinful blade]

Dan cases are great

[median frigate]

You know any solid psus to power a 5080 and 9800x3d

[mortal grail]

A850gl is reliably near 90$

[median frigate]

Yeah Dan case looks pretty nice

Little more optimized

[mortal grail]

It's a jonsbo d31 with more options

Similarly d32/z20 are also good

Depends how big you want the case to be

All 3 you want a 140mm psu tho ideally

So a850gl is the pick for sub 100

Or I think core reactor ii

[median frigate]

Bro I had that same one in my pcpartpicker list lol

I'm building my pc without the gpu

Just gonna use a beater one for now until I can get a good price on a good one

[mortal grail]

If you want my take then any of the 4 I suggested are nicer than the okinos

Okinos is still good tho

[acoustic palm]

@mortal grail can I have help rq

[mortal grail]

Jonsbo has similar quality

To lian li

[mortal grail]

Rq sure

[median frigate]

Yeah I'm gonna get the a3

[mortal grail]

I'm about to build boi my 9070xt pc

[acoustic palm]

Is there anything super wrong with this so far

[median frigate]

👀

[acoustic palm]

Except no power connections

[median frigate]

Send some pics when your done bro

[acoustic palm]

Ik that

[proud jackal]

Hold up lemme take a big breath

[mortal grail]

Just beware the thermalright mount

Iirc I had to flip it

[acoustic palm]

Uhhh

Wdym

[mortal grail]

See the rounded pieces

Check in the manual they're the right side up

[acoustic palm]

Wdym

[proud jackal]

[acoustic palm]

The uh

Stands?

[mortal grail]

These

[acoustic palm]

Yeah ok

[mortal grail]

Just check in the manual they're the right side up

Apart from that nothing else looks out of place so far

[mortal grail]

Ok so they look correct

[velvet summit]

felix fake techie

how could you not know every single cooler mount design

[mortal grail]

I did them upside down the first time lol, I wasn't using the manual is why

[dense locust]

am4

[acoustic palm]

Ah

[acoustic palm]

It’s the same mount

[mortal grail]

Am4 is the same as am5

[dense locust]

Let me make a joke

[velvet summit]

no

[acoustic palm]

Alr

[mortal grail]

Maybe

[dense locust]

Just for that I’m taking this out of context

[velvet summit]

no jokes allowed on april 1st

[mortal grail]

Not the first time it's happened lol

[acoustic palm]

And stupid question but I apply thermal paste to the cpu block with the letters right, not smth else I put on top of it

[mortal grail]

Ye on top of the silver cpu

[acoustic palm]

Ok

Ima do psu then that

[mortal grail]

And you remove the plastic off the copper part of the cooler

[pliant berry]

who usees manuals nowadays?

[mortal grail]

Or shiny metal

TR uses copper or nickel plate depending

So might just be shiny mirror like

[acoustic palm]

And how should I mount it

The uh

[mortal grail]

Whichever way fits

You don't need to have it a certain rotation cos the rad is up top

[acoustic palm]

That?

[mortal grail]

Can mount it whichever direction you want

Sure

[acoustic palm]

Ok

[mortal grail]

If it fits it sits

[acoustic palm]

The other way doesn’t work so

Alr

[mortal grail]

As it tends to go ye

[velvet summit]

"yeah i drive stick shift"

[acoustic palm]

Alr thanks

And also how do you know which end goes into the psu

[dusk knot]

Looking good 👍

[mortal grail]

They're labelled

If they're not then the manual will describe how they plug in

[acoustic palm]

Uhhhhh

Ok

[rancid juniper]

yuh

[mortal grail]

Not something we can directly advice cos every brand and model is different

[solemn lintel]

does anyone know why I cant install my drivers on my new pc?

I keep getting an error

[rancid juniper]

what error?

pls screenshot + specs

[solemn lintel]

1603

alr

[mortal grail]

Full storage maybe

[rancid juniper]

either your driver package is broken or an issue with the OS

[acoustic palm]

Ok and for actual cables, I need mobo, 2 pcie, cpu, sata, and actual power cable right

[mortal grail]

Probably

[solemn lintel]

says I have 1.7tb left

[mortal grail]

Bad ram, cpu, drive is a 980 pro/990 pro

[acoustic palm]

Anything critical I’m missing

[mortal grail]

If anything another gpu cable

[acoustic palm]

I think my 9070xt is 2x8

[mortal grail]

Then ur fine

[rough zinc]

Most places except the US

[acoustic palm]

Alr

[rough zinc]

[mortal grail]

You guys are weird, charging more for stick

[rough zinc]

Subaru #1, stick still cheaper

[dense locust]

I guess I need to resinstall windows when moving my boot drive

Or maybe it’ll work

Trust

[solemn lintel]

how do I show my pc specs?

[hoary zodiac]

System config or something

Hwinfo is a good alternative

[solemn lintel]

well this is the error I keep getting

[proud jackal]

Who wants to buy my 4090 for $2200

[hoary zodiac]

Have you tried using DDU?

[solemn lintel]

whats that

[hoary zodiac]

?ddu

[topaz crown]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[random osprey]

deal! but remove those 2 zeros at the end

[mortal grail]

I'll take it if you remove those 2 twos

[proud jackal]

[sweet phoenix]

Ill take it it you remove the 4 and the 9

[mortal grail]

You drive a hell of a hard bargain

I like your style kid it's a deal

[median frigate]

ASRock B850M-X Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard yall know any better matx then this

[dusk knot]

$1200

[median frigate]

Or should that one be good enough for a 9800x3d

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3VYfrH/asrock-b850m-pro-a-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b850m-pro-a

[mortal grail]

A620i lightning if 140 or less, b650m pro rs if 130 or less, b650m hdv if 130 or less, a620m pro rs if 130 or less

All competitive

[median frigate]

Is the chipset better on those?

[mortal grail]

B850 is just rebrand b650

B840 and x870 are a620 and x670 as well

It's not anything game changing to worry about

[sweet phoenix]

This is just on a good sale rn

[median frigate]

Yeah 109 is solid

[sweet phoenix]

Same price as the -x for a better mobo

[hoary zodiac]

9800GX2 > RTX 4090

[acoustic palm]

Felix cpu and pcie are some psu socket right

[hoary zodiac]

No

Not the same

[sweet phoenix]

-x is 6+1+1 power phase, pro-a is 8+2+1

Should handle a 9800x3d even oced

[hoary zodiac]

The EPS power connectors are physically different from the PCIE connectors

[sweet phoenix]

On some psus yes

[hoary zodiac]

Unless you meant on the psu side

[sweet phoenix]

On the psu side yeah

[hoary zodiac]

In which case it depends on the psu

[sweet phoenix]

Diff cables but they sometimes plug into the same/interchangeable slots on the psu side

Like most corsair units

[median frigate]

Damn bro I'm bout to have an insane pc now

In a week lol

[hoary zodiac]

My pc is insane too

I have a Core 2 Quad Q9400 and a RTX 3090

[median frigate]

Bro I've never even heard of that cpu

3090 still solid tho

[hoary zodiac]

It's the new intel cpu

[median frigate]

Intel 😖

[acoustic palm]

what is the extra 2x2 on your mobo for the cpu

[hoary zodiac]

They're adopting the chiplets design

Core 2 Quad is intel's new attempt to rival Ryzen

Pretty similar to what they're doing with the 9950X3D

[hoary zodiac]

The what

[sweet phoenix]

For ln2 ocing

You only need one

[acoustic palm]

The top one

[hoary zodiac]

That is not required

You only need one EPS 4+4 plugged in

Any gen-zs in chat?

I require translation services

[median frigate]

Do I trust refurbished

🧐

[solemn lintel]

could you explain how to use this if you dont minf

I'm getting so frustrated trying to figure this out

Thought Geek Squad was supposed to do all this for me

[hoary zodiac]

You press uninstall

And then after you uninstall the drivers

You run the driver installer

[misty sparrow]

this is the politics we need

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[misty sparrow]

now personally i am an anti-tickler

[hoary zodiac]

I believe in the reunification of the Holy Roman Empire

[solemn lintel]

it worked, I love you so much

[hoary zodiac]

Lmao

[rancid juniper]

ok but what if you got tickled in your dreams, then what?

[velvet summit]

Stop dreaming

[misty sparrow]

say you don't consent

[twin laurel]

Do I need to a 3.0 usb flash drive to install windows

[velvet summit]

No

[twin laurel]

Alr cus I bought a 2.0

[misty sparrow]

it does need to be big enough though

[velvet summit]

It will be slower though

[twin laurel]

Yeah it’s 32gb

[misty sparrow]

32gb is good enough

[median frigate]

What ram would yall recommend for 9800x3d

Still 6000mhz even with faster core clocks?

[mortal grail]

Ye

[worthy meteor]

Imc is still basically the same

[mortal grail]

Some 6000-6400 cl32 kit

Cl30, cl28 works

Some others as well that are hynix 5600cl46 but if you don't know ram tuning don't bother

[median frigate]

Yeah I don't lol

This is my 2nd ever build

[mortal grail]

I've tried taking people down that path, it's hit or miss if people understand or not

Lol

So yeah just the xmp kits really

Cl32 or lower is the most basic way of getting a good kit

6000 is just the most likely to run

[silk sonnet]

Quick question: for gaming, 3d modeling and video editing, which graphics card is better: 6600(maybe xt), A750 or 2060super?

[mortal grail]

Don't need to cherry pick brands for that

[mortal grail]

Used 2060S

[silk sonnet]

ok, does anyone second that notion?

[mortal grail]

3d modelling means blender

Blender is 99% nvidia biased

So 2060s wins

[worthy meteor]

Av1 on arc is cool but arc has problems everywhere else

[honest birch]

the b850m-x, really good memory OC

[worthy meteor]

I'd second 2060S as long as the price is good

[honest birch]

its also $110

[median frigate]

Any specific recommendations on ram tho, ik people don't like corsair for some reason

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't that the board with mediocre vrms

[mortal grail]

Just not corsair

[silk sonnet]

what about 6600( maybe xt)

[mortal grail]

Literally any brand not corsair

[worthy meteor]

Anything 6000c30/c32

[median frigate]

😂

[honest birch]

ddr5?

[worthy meteor]

Corsair locks pmic, everyone else doesn't

[median frigate]

Yeah 32gb kit

[velvet summit]

Perhaps even a used 3060

[hoary zodiac]

We don't just not like corsair

[honest birch]

u on ryzen?

[hoary zodiac]

It's not a preference thing

[median frigate]

Not sure which one to get there's so many diff random brands for it and yes

[hoary zodiac]

It is objectively worse

[mortal grail]

Klevv, teamgroup, g.skill, lexar

All work

Literally any brand just pick cl32 or lower

[worthy meteor]

Cheapest thing that does 6000c30/c32

[mortal grail]

And avoid corsair for.pmic locks

[worthy meteor]

6000c30/c32 = hynix inside = good

[hoary zodiac]

There are not many brands where you can say that their products are straight up garbage

[honest birch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H9CZxr/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctced532g6000hc30dc01

[median frigate]

Bet

[hoary zodiac]

Corsair RAM is one of the only cases where that's true

[median frigate]

Solid price

[hoary zodiac]

You have bad value ram and then you have corsair ram

[mortal grail]

They all are using hynix at this speed so it's more or less no difference

[worthy meteor]

If Corsair was an ultra budget option it'd be fine

[honest birch]

binning still differs, but thats for overclocking mostly

[worthy meteor]

But they're priced above everyone else while being objectively worse

[sweet phoenix]

Most users are going to benefit more from the vrm increase more than a 2dpc board for memory oc

[mortal grail]

H16a/m has no real binning that matters at this level ye

[sweet phoenix]

And more usb ports and I believe an extra m.2

[mortal grail]

If you wanted a bin you'd get a cudimm 6000 cl26

[honest birch]

im just saying for people who want it

[hoary zodiac]

I would just go for a better board tbh

[median frigate]

Think im gonna go with this one

[honest birch]

thats gonna be cl38...

i assume

yeah

dont get that

[median frigate]

Nvm

[honest birch]

u want white rgb?

[median frigate]

Wrong one lol

[honest birch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WFVmP6/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff4d532g6000hc30dc01

[honest birch]

yes thats fine

[median frigate]

Nah not really

[honest birch]

its just what u posted

[median frigate]

It had an option to switch the color

[solemn lintel]

does anyone have a good vertical monitor suggestion?

[mortal grail]

One with clamps and vesa mounting

[acoustic palm]

Ok I got 2 questions

How do you use this argb

And where does this cable go to

[hoary zodiac]

In the front panel header on your motherboard

Consult motherboard manual

It's something like J_FP1 or something

[mortal grail]

Your gpu would have a cable in the box to plug to that and then into your motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

It's different for different manufacturers

[mortal grail]

The front panel header

The manual def says this

GB actually writes decent manuals

[hoary zodiac]

I read that as Great Britain

[mortal grail]

They wish

[worthy meteor]

Too much eu4

[hoary zodiac]

That reminds me

I gotta do that Angevin run again

I think I got coalition'd last time

[worthy meteor]

I haven't played eu4 in over a year lol

[acoustic palm]

It didn’t

[hoary zodiac]

I'm a EU4 addict

It's actually really close to surpassing my hoi4 hours

[acoustic palm]

Would that be the power and stuff

[silk sonnet]

what do yall think about the 6600 and its xt counterpart?

[worthy meteor]

My hoi4 hours is like 1k I think

Eu4 maybe 400

[hoary zodiac]

I do need to get my Vic II hours up

I think

[acoustic palm]

Great budget gpus

[hoary zodiac]

It's around 1.45K for Hoi4 and EU4

300 hours for vic 2

Not a lot for CK2 and Imperator

[dense locust]

Chat I’m buying 1x 32gb ddr5 you can’t stop me

[worthy meteor]

Good for gaming, loses to Nvidia for rendering

[hoary zodiac]

Over 1.4K hours and I'm still trash at EU4

[worthy meteor]

I have like 50hrs recorded in Vic 2 lol

[frigid stag]

Budget gpu

[worthy meteor]

More like closer to 200 played, lots of offline

[hoary zodiac]

Vic 2 is fun

Vic 2 and CK2 has nice battles imo

They're more dynamic than death stacking

[worthy meteor]

Stellaris battles are cool

[hoary zodiac]

Oh I forgot stellaris existed

[worthy meteor]

Nah Vic 2 is death stacking lol

[hoary zodiac]

I'm missing a couple dlcs

[worn wave]

Good budget 1080p pick for the right price

[worthy meteor]

You have to dogpile any battle on the offensive

[hoary zodiac]

More of an early game thing

[worthy meteor]

Especially late game

[silk sonnet]

hmm

[worthy meteor]

Defense buffs get too strong late game

Post machine guns

[hoary zodiac]

In the late game you can abuse reinforce ticks

Cycle to get the reinforce

And then jump back in

[worthy meteor]

You need to keep stacking stuff in though

[hoary zodiac]

True

[worthy meteor]

Not like hoi4 reinforce meming with like 2 divs

[hoary zodiac]

It's death stacking with strategy

[mortal grail]

Surely there's any other cable in the box

[mortal grail]

it's literally called front panel

[acoustic palm]

It’s the gpu… and the foam…

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah hoi4 cycling is a lot easier

Since you can disengage when you're losing

And not just pull out of the whole battle and lose war score

[honest birch]

you dont needf to

[acoustic palm]

I saw f-usb and thought since the f

[mortal grail]

Welp you'd need an argb cable then to link to it

[acoustic palm]

I want to

[mortal grail]

Close, front usb is not front panel

[acoustic palm]

Damn, is it f to f

[worn wave]

Some GPUs have an rgb connector to sync with other lights, but the gpu is controlled via gpu manufacturer software

[honest birch]

thats not what it is for

[worthy meteor]

War score isn't the worst part, it's being followed when you retreat and losing stacks that's annoying

[acoustic palm]

The argb… isn’t for the argb?

[mortal grail]

You don't need a cable to run the gpu with rgb but for unified control that's what the cable would give you

It'll still run

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that's why I abuse defensive battles

[acoustic palm]

Wdym unified control 🙂

[mortal grail]

One software

[hoary zodiac]

And have a reserve army ready to reinforce

[worthy meteor]

You can beat 60k stacks with 15k on a mountain on defense

[worn wave]

Syncing gpu rgb and other rgb

[hoary zodiac]

Harder in the early game

[honest birch]

it isnt an extra header if thats what you had meant i thought thats what you were asking

[acoustic palm]

Oh yeah I want that

[hoary zodiac]

Average Italian war for Venetia

[worthy meteor]

I remember doing a Columbia game

[hoary zodiac]

Put a 3K stack in south tyrol and bait the Austrians into attacking

[worthy meteor]

I was 2 miltechs behind GB, they came in, and I just sat on the mountains and kept wiping them

[hoary zodiac]

I think I trolled the US as Brazil

I naval invaded them and then stackwiped them

They had 10 more miltech than me

Although they threw a infantry mob stack into a stack with proper army comp

[mortal grail]

You'll need a female to female argb cable then

Maybe the mobo box has it

[hoary zodiac]

AI skill issue

[acoustic palm]

Ok so it is f to f

[acoustic palm]

I can’t check rn, I’ll check tmrw after school

[hoary zodiac]

It's ok though the US stackwiped me after

Vic 2 MP contains the sweatiest group of paradox map gamers

They'll really abuse the hell out of the game mechanics

[worthy meteor]

Found old screenshots, 4 miltechs behind, no arty in my armies

[mortal grail]

Cala bozo

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

They had arty too

[worthy meteor]

Yea idk 10 stack planes and crap

[worthy meteor]

Big thing is no cav means no recon so the defense buffs were stronger than usual

[mortal grail]

Didn't realise they had Gen Z in the industrial era

[hoary zodiac]

Reinforce ticks, terrain, shadow funding, sphere economies,

[worthy meteor]

Terrain is huge in Vic 2

You need it

[hoary zodiac]

There are entire MP wars lost because the opponent was sphered by a GP

Sphere goods can literally decide the outcome of a war

Minor nations not getting reinforcements are a death sentence

[worthy meteor]

Monopolies in mp Vic 2 too

Literally Rockefeller tactics to massively subsidize one of your industries and force weaker economies to stop making it

[hoary zodiac]

You can also stockpile machine goods

[worthy meteor]

Then you can just cut them off

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

[worthy meteor]

GB machine parts monopoly lol

[hoary zodiac]

No machine parts? No industry

[worthy meteor]

Only nation that starts with artisans making any iirc

[hoary zodiac]

Russian players not researching iron tech also

[median frigate]

👀

[worthy meteor]

Other players can do it tbf

Russia has a good amount but only really equivalent to like France

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah they can also invade Russia

For their iron

Or invade the US or something

Wait isn't it all in the Urals?

[worthy meteor]

There's also everyone getting a share of the China pie at the start

[median frigate]

Bro my friend just told me he gonna give me his old 4070

[worthy meteor]

The biggest tile iirc yea

[median frigate]

🙏

[worthy meteor]

I remember it being right next to the sulfur

[hoary zodiac]

Wtf

Any coal nearby?

[worthy meteor]

Don't remember that

I just remember it's the hoi4 state in the urals

[hoary zodiac]

You can probably concentrate the entire russian economy in that one state

[worthy meteor]

The Idaho shaped one

[hoary zodiac]

I like playing DoD over vanilla tho

It's a pretty balanced mod

For most countries

You can have fun on China or Gran Colombia or even Beornia

Beornia being the meme English nation in Argentina

[worthy meteor]

I always did vanilla

[sinful blade]

Oh no, #gaming is leaking

[hoary zodiac]

I really should play a country that's NOT Prussia

[worthy meteor]

take out the p

fun times ahead

(you're never going to pass reforms)

[acoustic palm]

Yooo

[hoary zodiac]

I love the 1M militant socialists in 1880

[worthy meteor]

this is why you don't take that tech

[sinful blade]

If someone comes in asking for a guy they met in Walmart, tag me immediately

I gave them this discord to come to if they needed anything

[hoary zodiac]

Historically accurate russia tbh

[worthy meteor]

revolutions & counterrevolutions get you nothing good other than rebels smh

I don't care about the influence

[hoary zodiac]

Do you even get decisions from it?

[worthy meteor]

don't think so

[hoary zodiac]

I know Germany has content for that tech

But not sure if you actually need it for Russia

[median frigate]

Build Boi helped me out

#1 pc advice giver

[acoustic palm]

Nice he’s rly good

He’s helping me with some stuff rn too lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Kaiser Felix

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/throne-king-lazy-turn-around-gif-17119852

You rang

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

[median frigate]

Do any of yall remember Vincent

He used to be a mod here

[worthy meteor]

don't remember a vincent lol

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm what's a country with content

[acoustic palm]

What…

[hoary zodiac]

France?