general-chat

[fresh timber]

and if i swap to 10gig it gives me the feel of its faster

[frigid stag]

Lol I have hdds from like 2012

Ig they don’t make them like they used to

Meanwhile got ssds which stopped working after like 3

[frigid stag]

Or they make them better now, cuz the study is from 2013

[chrome mirage]

I have HDDs from 2005. They are measuring constant use not while a device is off.

[frigid stag]

In use from 2012

[lone mango]

Yeah if you keep one unpowered for a long time there is a chance that some data will be lost from cells losing their charge

[frigid stag]

I just don’t have a data center or any commercial use for them

So they last longer

[chrome mirage]

I've had 2 hard drives fail after 2 years. They were Seagate drives though.

[lone mango]

I think old hdds were just built diff

[frigid stag]

Exactly

[lone mango]

Bc I went through 3 in less than 2 years

Since then im an ssd lover

[frigid stag]

Sea gate?

[chrome mirage]

Hard drives also don't spin when they aren't reading or writing

[lone mango]

Both sg and wd

[fresh timber]

Yeah

[frigid stag]

Idk that 3-5 year data is from 2013 so

[fresh timber]

You spin down your drives?

[lone mango]

Yeah thats why they will take a second when accessed sometimes

[fresh timber]

I heard it’s not worth

[lone mango]

Like my external hdd earlier today had to spin up to transfer data

[chrome mirage]

Most of my commonly used files are on SSDs so I rarely touch my hard drives.

[dusk knot]

Never bought a single HDD in my life

[fresh timber]

What about devices that included hdds

[dense locust]

No iPod classics?

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-thinking-brainstorming-contemplating-deep-in-thought-gif-15212724

My Xbox one

Lmao

[tranquil pebble]

I honestly feel the same way for CPUs.

[dusk knot]

Never had the money back then

[tranquil pebble]

GPUs and memory tuning seem more worthwhile

[fresh timber]

fr

i only oc my cpu if i have headroom with my uv

[frigid stag]

Depends on the cpu

[tranquil pebble]

I say this as someone who overclocked the hell out of an i7 920

in like 2009

[fresh timber]

you can get some impressive numbers with some liquid nitrogen

https://hwbot.org/

[tranquil pebble]

LN2 is impractical. For actual use, CPU overclocking isnt what it used to be.

[fresh timber]

nerd

why did i say that lmfao

ignore me

[frigid stag]

You can get almost bigger clock speed gains on lga1700 CPU’s than you could on like 1151 v2

[tranquil pebble]

Long gone are the days where 1+ GHz of headroom without OV is there

[frigid stag]

5.8ghz 13600k’s

[fresh timber]

im sure you could get 1ghz out some cpus

[tranquil pebble]

Not without voltage tuning lol

[fresh timber]

13600kf can do 6ghz single core if u got a good binn

[fresh timber]

do that ez

[tranquil pebble]

If you show me a modern CPU that takes an OC as spectacularly as my old 920 did I would be rather impressed.

2.66 to 4.0 on air lol

and no voltage increase

[fresh timber]

why excluse voltage

nothing wrong with it aslong as ur in safe levels and can cool it

ggood exist

[frigid stag]

My friends 7600k. 3.6 to 5.2 🗿

[tranquil pebble]

and VRMs too. Better have good ones.

[fresh timber]

get good vrms then

[frigid stag]

Better gains than the 920

I think hes upgraded by now

I think he got an i9 now

[fresh timber]

i was peeping 9950x prices :p

of course dreadzone did it

[tranquil pebble]

last time I overclocked a CPU, I LOST performance from it lol

[fresh timber]

https://hwbot.org/users/vertex_fr custom loop

[frigid stag]

Probably unstable

[fresh timber]

Or a bad oc too

[frigid stag]

Ye

Sometimes too much or too little voltage can make it act weird

[tranquil pebble]

I figured but even a single increment over stock speed was making it unstable. It was a 3700X.

[frigid stag]

Ohh

[tranquil pebble]

I have not tried to on x3d and do not plan to.

[frigid stag]

Ye for ryzen oc doesn’t do much

[frigid stag]

On recent ones it’s a bit better

[fresh timber]

can confirm

[frigid stag]

I don’t think you even can

[tranquil pebble]

That 3700X also never hit its advertised boost speeds even with overkill cooling

[fresh timber]

i can oc my 13600kf alot more than my 5500

[frigid stag]

Unless it’s zen 5 X3d

[tranquil pebble]

I have one of those too

9800x3d

[fresh timber]

ima do a slight oc

[frigid stag]

Ye that can overclock

Locking clocks is probably enough

[tranquil pebble]

I still wont. I see no need for an OC.

it is not nearly as clock choked as 5700x3d lol

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl-znPOmi08 i google ddr4, i dont think this is ddr4

[tranquil pebble]

9600x is newer, kind of unfair comparison lol

[fresh timber]

im comparing to what i have in my rig now

[tranquil pebble]

also title says 9700x and thumbnail says 9600x

[frigid stag]

13600k faster if you use good ram

[fresh timber]

laughs in ddr4

i know i loose, im trying to figure out how much

[frigid stag]

Good enough

[fresh timber]

i was a confused for a sec kek

only worth for me is x3d probably then, or i could upgrade my platform to d5

[tranquil pebble]

x3d is a monster in some of the games I play, like absolutely annihilates everything else

[frigid stag]

Aren’t you gpu bound

[fresh timber]

iv been getting into cod and minecraft alot

mostly cod go brr

[tranquil pebble]

5700x3d + 6900 XT... doubt it... once I put 9800x3d in I will be probably

[frigid stag]

Ig it depends on game

[fresh timber]

chekcing if your cpu bound on intel is weird i guess

usage doesnt reflect if your bound cause e cores

[frigid stag]

I usually check gpu usage

If it’s 95 + it’s gpu bound

[fresh timber]

at most x3d smooths out the lows

[tranquil pebble]

unless the GPU is not running full throttle

[frigid stag]

Yea

[tranquil pebble]

this is huge from a gameplay perspective though

[fresh timber]

my lows are terrible

like i can get 30fps lows in a few games i forgot which

i need to reinstall capfame x

hold up

[tranquil pebble]

I have 0 fps lows in some games... but... they are also trash tier games XD

[frigid stag]

[fresh timber]

welp time to figure out if x3d really will benfit me, sidenote cod can use all your cores

[frigid stag]

😬

Ye that explains the 1% lows

[tranquil pebble]

interesting fact: 6900 XT has an insane amount of L3 cache... 128 MB

[tranquil pebble]

I have seen games that get worse FPS for every additional core it uses

[fresh timber]

its funny

[tranquil pebble]

Multithreading is not always done right

[fresh timber]

a 9800x3d has very simiar multicore to me

[tranquil pebble]

9800x3d is a monster for its core count

[fresh timber]

and a 9700x only looses by a amount you will nevr see

[tranquil pebble]

imagine what a Zen 5 Threadripper would do in MT

[fresh timber]

they exist

zen5c ones atleast

what should i remove/add

okay..... i should prob get that extraction kit

problem solved

crazy how my fps didnt even change

[tranquil pebble]

gpu0 on fire

[fresh timber]

ok so it is gpu

sad

[tranquil pebble]

hotspot throttling, and damn near thermal shutdown

[fresh timber]

i fixed it

-20% pl

or 10% i forgot

[cedar compass]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102940078505984/1198019706620227824/bean.gif

[tranquil pebble]

eh, that will be a bandaid fix at best

[fresh timber]

it fix

my fps doesnt even get affected

[tranquil pebble]

You do not even know if it is fully stable lol

[fresh timber]

how can a pl decrease make it.. not stable

that would be the UV i applied

[tranquil pebble]

you would be surprised

[fresh timber]

im confident its tsable

searching for 7800x3d and comparable gpu benchmarks in cod, so fun

[somber skiff]

[fresh timber]

oop sorry mr benchmarc, should have posted your hwbot stuff

[somber skiff]

Eh, I'm semi-retired

I thought you were saying that was your profile

[somber skiff]

But yes, cold juice = big number https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVLRVAxGxKY

[icy ore]

Jesus

[rancid juniper]

i think it can beat the X3D chips now

😂

[somber skiff]

I need to un-retire

[rancid juniper]

dayum

[worthy meteor]

pst?

[rancid juniper]

taking records

[worthy meteor]

You should, it'll be fun

[somber skiff]

You can definitely go for some wr on chiller with the new stuff, yc on 16c am5

Rather, aio out the window in winter

Or ice bucket

[tranquil pebble]

I once had a dream where console commands worked irl and started noclipping everywhere

[rancid juniper]

physics if it didn't exist

[acoustic palm]

Ahhh I’m still pissed mc raised prices

😭

Rip having a white mobo

[pseudo raven]

xAI has acquired X

where's the Obama putting a medal on Obama picture

[fresh timber]

You, does x3d benefit you even in gpu bound areas, and is it a reasonable amount

[storm umbra]

Hey y’all what would you recommend is a good $2000 budget gaming laptop that has a good gpu and cpu that can handle a lot(for my sister)

[sweet phoenix]

Something with a 5060

[storm umbra]

Do 5060 exist yet?

[sweet phoenix]

Should be very soon

4060 is decent, I wouldnt really spend more than $800-1000 on a laptop personally

[acoustic palm]

how come a laptop

[sweet phoenix]

You fall off heavily value wise and the higher the gpu the hotter it gets

Sometimes 4070 laptops are decent value

[storm umbra]

She like laptops

[sweet phoenix]

Foxy and felix know much more abt specific models than I do though

[acoustic palm]

uh if thats the only reason... i wouldnt get a laptop, i mean to each there own but unless you need it to be portable id get a desktop

[heavy dew]

@mortal grail so this is what I discovered with the 360 that NO ONE BOTHERED TO TELL ME

So if you want to upgrade a 360 hard drive with a new SATA drive, it cannot be any SATA hard drive like you cannot install any random drive into the console into the bay and expect it to work

So apparently on natural terms, the 360 only supports ONE MANUFACTURER and A COUPLE MODELS of WD blue drives, and the drives in question have to run a VERY SPECIFIC OLDER FIRMWARE in order for the Xbox to actually READ the drives

So how people are able to upgrade to any random hard drive or SSD they want, in order to do that, you pretty much have to RGH mod your 360 just so you can use another drive or an SSD, so yeah NO ONE told me this before hand

[fresh timber]

@sweet phoenix can x3d help boost fps even when gpu bound

[lone mango]

Well it would boost fps in a way where the gpu would be the limiting factor

So it depends on what is being compared

[sweet phoenix]

Yes to some extent

[fresh timber]

mhh

[fresh timber]

to what extent would a 9800x3d or 7800x3d benfit over a 13600kf

cant really find much info comparing similar specs to me, to a 9800x3d/7800x3d, so ill ask the human wikapedia

[sweet phoenix]

With a 7700xt, the main differences will be in 1% lows

Not sure to what degree

I'd imagine less than 10%

[fresh timber]

dammit

okay

with that info, ddr5 probably wont do much either]

[sweet phoenix]

Oh 13600k on ddr4 to 7800x3d is probably a bit more noticeable

[fresh timber]

what does ur fps calculator say

[sweet phoenix]

I forgot ddr4

[fresh timber]

ooo

[sweet phoenix]

Uhhhhhh

[fresh timber]

hope?

[sweet phoenix]

13600k loses like 10% performance or so on ddr4

[fresh timber]

ooooo

[sweet phoenix]

Its like 10-15% worse than the 7800x3d with ddr5

I doubt it's a full 25% worse tho

[fresh timber]

if you had to estimate in your noggen, how could that affect games like cod

[sweet phoenix]

In games that love x3d, maybe just around 20% or so

[fresh timber]

mhh

ima figure out how much it would cost me to do 9800x3d, then how much a gpu would cost

[rancid juniper]

maybe

[fresh timber]

the current price hikes and tarrifs dont look promising

[acoustic palm]

thats why im making my pc before the tariffs

[fresh timber]

im littrely waiting for the overworked social secerity people to send the damn cash 😢

[acoustic palm]

gg

[fresh timber]

yeah, mf wanna be slackin

i wish i was crazy

[fresh timber]

how does the 9700x compare

[acoustic palm]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16819113791T?Item=N82E16819113791T

you missed this

[fresh timber]

...

[dense locust]

[fresh timber]

if i had te money then you know how fast i would have bought that bro

[acoustic palm]

haha

me too

[fresh timber]

do i need 16 cores? no, is it cheap?? yes

[acoustic palm]

yeah

[fresh timber]

im lucky i did hella research a while ago on am5

[sweet phoenix]

Bit better than a 13600k on ddr5

[fresh timber]

so what im hearing is, am5 is the goat

[acoustic palm]

yeah

[fresh timber]

ooo yeahhh, i dont even need wifi naymore

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pRLdnQ/msi-meg-x870e-godlike-eatx-am5-motherboard-meg-x870e-godlike who tf would buy this

please whos crazy enough

[sinful blade]

Shut

[acoustic palm]

thats my entire pc

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007941477365.html

$330 7800x3d

[fresh timber]

you know i wanna vommit

[sweet phoenix]

Do it

[acoustic palm]

why

[fresh timber]

cause

good prices

[acoustic palm]

then get it

[fresh timber]

when the cash is im doing it

watch i do all this and i start playing games that are 100% gpu bound

[dense locust]

I have seen several people in the msi discord with this

I don’t understand them

[fresh timber]

idiots, also slide a invite

[tranquil pebble]

imagine a game so poorly made that the fps is NIC bound

[dense locust]

Nic?

What’d he do?

[tranquil pebble]

network interface card

[fresh timber]

OOO YEAHHHHHHHHH i dont even need a top end am5 motherboard. unlike intel they are alll unlocked

[acoustic palm]

gg

[fresh timber]

i love amd

[acoustic palm]

same

[fresh timber]

why are their a bunch of white mobos for a good price

[dense locust]

I may be stupid enough to buy a $300 motherboard but $1.2k is a level of stupidity I can’t get behind

[fresh timber]

i could become a white/black pc guy

🤔

[tranquil pebble]

better off burning your cash for heat lol

[fresh timber]

ew

[sweet phoenix]

Join the club

[fresh timber]

what does urs looklike

[dense locust]

“I just game”
Pc specs: 9950x3d msi godlike 5090 suprim

[sweet phoenix]

Mediocre because of my cable management

[fresh timber]

show

[sweet phoenix]

I don't have a picture atm

Ask me tmrw when I feel like getting out of bed

[fresh timber]

ill be waiting, and while i wait ill be syncing my rgb between computers

i shall stay up all night for this

[sweet phoenix]

Lmao

Its a white p360a with a black aio with white fans on it

Minimal rgb

[fresh timber]

why am i about to buy x3d help

even non x3d is good for me lmfao

[sweet phoenix]

I want off my degraded 13600k

[fresh timber]

i.. well i just want more fps it prob will dump less heat in my room this summer too

[sweet phoenix]

Lol 7800x3d sticks under 90w and can be cooled by literally anything

[idle nexus]

at least you can RMA it. I bought my 13600K used & delidded it so it's my problem lol

[fresh timber]

meanwhile my 13600kf dumping god knows how much

[sweet phoenix]

RIP

[fresh timber]

ill only abondon my plan of x3d if at time of purchase i find a gpu at the same price with a good increse

[sweet phoenix]

Prob around 180w

With your undervolt

[fresh timber]

i can check

[sweet phoenix]

Mine was 315w at stock settings

:,)

Thanks intel

[idle nexus]

I bought my 13900KS new but delidded it

tbh I dunno how borked that CPU even is

[sweet phoenix]

Probably very

[idle nexus]

I've only ever used it for benchmarks

[fresh timber]

if i wanted to i could littrely drop $2000 on my pc, id prob only reuse the psu and ssd

[idle nexus]

it's never even been on the internet

[sweet phoenix]

Buy a 4090 for $2000 and run it with your 5500

[fresh timber]

LMFAO

[dusk knot]

[fresh timber]

THAT WOULD BE FUNNY

the psu in the 5500 rig would explode

okay its kinda funny, the 7700xt is too fast for it too

[sweet phoenix]

It'll be fine

[fresh timber]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=110-BQ-0650-V1

🙂

[sweet phoenix]

Just power limit the 4090 by like 40%

[acoustic palm]

just get a seperate psu for the 4090

smh

[idle nexus]

lol where are you getting a 4090 for $2k anyway?

[fresh timber]

thats the challange

[sweet phoenix]

Hws

[idle nexus]

oh nice

[fresh timber]

whats hws

[sweet phoenix]

r/hardwareswap

[fresh timber]

bacca was close

spot on

[sweet phoenix]

Lmao

[fresh timber]

side note why is my cooling so much better

[idle nexus]

I got the 550w (or 540? I dunno it was something kinda strange) version of this PSU & it's been running my dad's 5600g without any issues for like 2-3 years now

[fresh timber]

it normaly hits 80-85

[idle nexus]

originally I got the PSU just to test custom loops without having to disconnect a bunch of crap to run the PSU for the pump only

[sweet phoenix]

My 850w bq died in 8 months

[fresh timber]

oo yeah i dont have a side panel on, im not puting it back on until i decide what upgrade i want to do kek

[fresh timber]

mines is like 2 yaers old i think

my smart is like, idk 5

THEY ARE TEMPTING ME TO make my 2nd rig am5

NO

[acoustic palm]

doooooo it

do ittttttttt

[fresh timber]

im not doing BOTH pcs

[acoustic palm]

no balls

[fresh timber]

i wanna do a useless upgrade, but not two

mhh idk if i like how white looks in a black case

[idle nexus]

I only spent $27 on that 510w EVGA PSU btw on Prime Day lol

[fresh timber]

do we know when the next prime day is

[sweet phoenix]

In 62.3627 days

[fresh timber]

DO I WAIT

no im lazy

[fresh timber]

why are you so.. accurate

[sweet phoenix]

I made this up

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-lied-gif-21836345

[sweet phoenix]

Prime day is July 15th-16th according to Google

[fresh timber]

im too lazy

why are gigabyte boards brown 🤮

[acoustic palm]

that power connector vomitcat

[fresh timber]

lol

old firmwar

it doesnt detect the keeboard

sad

ayee i can control rgb on multiply evices

NOOOOO IT DOESNT SUPPORT ONE OF MY KEYBOARDS

[idle nexus]

copper pipes suck

like I can't even accidentally touch them without it starting to tarnish in a couple months

[idle nexus]

which keyboard?

sometimes there are plug-ins

[fresh timber]

G515

my new keeb

[pliant berry]

my icloud app keeps opening itself for some reason

[fresh timber]

somebody make a app that replaces ghub, steelseries, etc

i would end up with lik 50 diffrent programs

[pliant berry]

imo the future for peripherals is local web apps

[frigid stag]

Apparently ghub screws with your mouse

[fresh timber]

o yeah dont they run little web servers

[frigid stag]

I’m not touching that app

[idle nexus]

ask in OpenRGB discord. They're super helpful in my experience

[fresh timber]

ugh i hate swapping between keyboards, it hurtst

[idle nexus]

one dude made me a version basically cuz MSI Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi had some weird controller thing going on lol

[fresh timber]

oo

[pliant berry]

some do, wooting and keychron use web utilities that change most of the essential settings. only things you can't do is things that need to run in background like macros

[fresh timber]

im fine with webservers everywhere

im trying to get my ram to detect

not going well i know it works with openrgb

[idle nexus]

I could never get it to detect my teamgroup memory

[pliant berry]

can be a pain to remember all the websites but id say its better than an app taking up space

[fresh timber]

i have alot of stuff

[pliant berry]

already have like 50 bookmarks on my browser, what's a few more

[fresh timber]

i wish signal did what i want

syncing two pcs

[fresh timber]

yeah im uninstalling signal

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/NjNDCEcuLCI

[rancid juniper]

wait... something seems familiar

[velvet summit]

sips bleach seductively

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TVq2TM this motherboard is smexy ngl

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RV4Zxr/gskill-ripjaws-s5-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239f24gx2-rs5k

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WmCZxr/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239f24gx2-tz5rk

[sweet phoenix]

check the b650-a wifi at $160 out

also the b850 riptide wifi

[fresh timber]

question about ddr5

are 24gb sticks better binn or osmething

[sweet phoenix]

ggood said smthn about 64gb actually being better bins but ive no idea

[fresh timber]

O

I’m not spending that much hell no

[sweet phoenix]

everything else ive seen says 48gb does better

but i trust ggood

[fresh timber]

k

@sweet phoenix this motherbord looks so fire

[sinful blade]

You’ve never seen the one

[fresh timber]

show me the one

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ckhFf7/asrock-b650-livemixer-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-livemixer

[fresh timber]

oh hell nah thatt ulgy mf

[tranquil pebble]

read that as liver mixer at first

[royal crow]

GROSS

caps

[storm narwhal]

gboard stickers will never not be funny

[dusk knot]

lol

[honest birch]

2x24 is the best yes, specifically m-die

The 6000 CL26 ones will be best binned

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QVcLjn https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hnTgpK

ddr5 worth?

[honest birch]

Not for gaming, only bandwidth intensive things, 32x2 is DR so harder to run and overclock

[fresh timber]

mr hooz

im partial to just making current stuff 10% better for alot less

more money to pocket for laptop :p

[gray kelp]

how do you guys feel about this monitor? I can get the price down by like another hundred

[honest birch]

The Sony inzone 480hz was $730 at Walmart if you are interested

[honest birch]

?

[fresh timber]

how do you sell your rigs

[gray kelp]

if i want two monitors, is it cool to have something good and the other be like mediocre monitor for work?

[misty sparrow]

to be honest free is free

i'd use the oled for gaming and the other one for a second usable screen

[gray kelp]

ahh okay so it doesnt matter one monitor is like 240 / 480 hz and other is like 60

[misty sparrow]

not really

you might run into a problem like @fresh timber over here where your main monitor is held back a bit for some reason

but you can probably fix it

[fresh timber]

wot

i was salking this chat

[misty sparrow]

remember that time when your main monitor was handicapped by your father's television

[fresh timber]

o that was cause HDR and some stupid stuff

[misty sparrow]

not because of the tv?

[fresh timber]

o it was the tv

like enabling hdr on one would mes up othe other and limit bandwith for osme reason

but if ur leaving hdr off, or is fine iwth tinkering your ifne

[pseudo raven]

it was available for 400 a while ago

also the alienware dell awdf whatever was available for like 400 with rakuten

[fresh timber]

Includes a game you cant even run

[gray kelp]

oh dang lol

[pseudo raven]

yeah ive been in the market for a monitor like that too lol

but i think i do too much work on my pc to go oled just yet

[gray kelp]

actually let me just get something with more Hz than the one i linked

[pseudo raven]

burn in is still a problem

[fresh timber]

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im gooood

[median frigate]

Anyone got any good pcpartpicker list for a budget of 1300$

[fresh timber]

@honest birch

[median frigate]

That should be enough for a solid build I think

[pseudo raven]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1hqj6py/monitor_alienware_34_curved_qdoled_gaming_monitor/

yeah here was the deal

people were getting another 20% off with capitalone shopping or soemthing so it was like 380

[lucid bay]

Uh

Soo.. my gpu has began artifacting…

[misty sparrow]

"Get Assassin's Creed Shadows with purchase of qualifying Intel product" sounds like a threat

[dusk knot]

What do you have?

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[lucid bay]

Had to return my rtx 5080 due to no post no matter what i did and started using my old r9 380

….

[dusk knot]

.which 5080?

😔

[gray kelp]

wdym no post?

[lucid bay]

ROG Astral

[dusk knot]

Damn. Why return when you can do an RMA?

[lucid bay]

Didn’t feel like it

[gray kelp]

oky so I guess no "good" deals for monitors rn then?

[dusk knot]

But now you'll have to jump back into finding a card. You know how difficult it is atm.

[lucid bay]

There is.

[dense locust]

Gotta reball the core

[lucid bay]

I have a backup 3070 and a 4070 Ti Super

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/rest-in-paradise-fair-well-rest-in-peace-fly-bird-gif-9409308122882547457

[lucid bay]

No worries my friend.

[lucid bay]

^

[sinful blade]

I wish I had a backup

[lucid bay]

Want one of mine?

[sinful blade]

All I got is a dell 5700xt

[lucid bay]

I don’t really want them tbh

[sinful blade]

I would kill for one of yours

[lucid bay]

They’re just sitting in a box tbh

Don’t really want or need them

[sinful blade]

Your backups would be my main lmao

[dusk knot]

Ooh .ok

[lucid bay]

Yea..

[sinful blade]

My 5700xt might already need a repaste

It was just repasted 2 months ago

[dense locust]

[sinful blade]

Temps are abnormally hot

[honest birch]

That's rdna1 for you

[sinful blade]

It’s an OEM dell model

So it already runs hot lmao

But it’s all I could afford

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[dense locust]

well there's your issue

[sinful blade]

It used to run at an average 78-84c

It’s approaching 92-95c while under load

[dense locust]

time to buy a phase change thermal pad

[sinful blade]

And I’m not even putting it through any bad games

Just d2 and rivals

Those are the most intensive games

[honest birch]

Undervolt

[sinful blade]

it is

[honest birch]

You can also flash a better bios on it very easily

[sinful blade]

I have a custom profile for it with an undervolt

[dusk knot]

Hm

[honest birch]

It's not software locked

So you can use redbioseditor and atiflash

[sinful blade]

What’s the best bios for the 5700xt? I just let it update to most recent when I got it.

[honest birch]

I can look

[sinful blade]

Pls do

[wicked oriole]

would it be possible to try to make an ai model for the company that i work for to be able to read inventory and cross reference it with items that it can be used for with a 5090 or am i on a pipe dream here

[sinful blade]

Repasting it is already a pain

[sinful blade]

Probably

You can do whatever you set your mind to

[wicked oriole]

cause we are struggling i went in for overtime today and we couldnt achieve anything because of no parts lmao

then i got to thinking maybe i could make some kind of model to sell off to them or get me in the office cause im getting tired of the labor lol

would make the purchase actually worth lmao

[sinful blade]

I would assume you’d be able to

[honest birch]

Flash at your own risk, https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/216762/powercolor-rx5700xt-8192-191220 this would be the best vbios for the 5700 xt

[sinful blade]

Installing it tomorrow then

[honest birch]

Should be a lot better than the Dell oem bios lmao

Undervolt and overclock

[sinful blade]

Got it chief

I’ll have to show you my profile for it tomorrow as well

[icy ore]

[royal crow]

How does one get the techie role

[velvet summit]

you have to prove that you have a relatively deep enough knowledge in a certain tech topic
and also prove that your personality is not aggressive

usually recommended for the role by a few other techies

[royal crow]

Ah

[misty sparrow]

don't worry the fans on my PC spin pretty fast when downloading a game or doing something too

it gets pretty loud, kinda worried they are hot

guess it's because prebuilt OEM or something

[royal crow]

I have deep knowledge in how too build computers in Minecraft and that's about it tbh😭

[velvet summit]

i mean, that would mean you're fairly knowledgeable about logic circuits then 🧐

[royal crow]

I guess🤷‍♂️

I'm working on building one, it's really not much, but it's a computer

[reef grove]

Just installed a custom keyless entry system

[velvet summit]

idk if that would be enough though lmfao i dont think there is a need for an electronics techie here and you'd need to know a bit more than just that

[royal crow]

Yea lol

[wicked oriole]

i made it to top 100 in steel nomad with my set up!!!

[velvet summit]

"solve pi to unlock this door"

[royal crow]

Gonna be there a while

[fresh timber]

@honest birch i weighed my options, gpu after graduation makes alot more sense frfr

graudation present to my self

[dense locust]

i stole this from zotac discord anyone know what this is they say its coming from the gpu

could be something else

weird sound tho

[fresh timber]

hey

you

[dense locust]

hey you

[fresh timber]

im doing more research on $1000 laptops

[dense locust]

[lucid bay]

First it was my gpu… now it’s my SSD…

LIKE BRO

I’mma go cry now

[dense locust]

did your pc just die or what

[lucid bay]

I think so

First it was my 5080…

[dense locust]

maybe its the psu?

[lucid bay]

NOW ITS MY 4TB 990 PRO

[dense locust]

they just stopped working?

[lucid bay]

My 5080 wouldn’t post

No matter what I did

Now that I swapped the gpu out for a spare rtx 4070 super I had lying around

My ssd stopped working

[dense locust]

how old is the psu?

[lucid bay]

A year..

[fresh timber]

@dense locust wyd

[lucid bay]

$280 4TB nvme it is then

[dense locust]

well at least they are under warrenty right?

[lucid bay]

Sadly.. not anymore

[dense locust]

well at least the gpu is

hopefully the psu isnt defective somehow

[lucid bay]

It isn’t

I’ve tested it

[dense locust]

odd that two components died on the same pc

[mental yoke]

hey cutie

[fresh timber]

your weird

[mental yoke]

[lone mango]

Damn I hope you put some files onto another drive every once in a while

[hoary zodiac]

@elfin mural

[mental yoke]

shut up snitch

[median frigate]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zd77Zc

What yall think

If yall see any better parts lmk

[devout forum]

Are you set in the socket and GPU choice?

[median frigate]

Nah

[devout forum]

what you gonna use the PC for?

Where do you live?

[median frigate]

But the only game I play rust, runs best on 9800x3d

[devout forum]

What's your budget

I can see a few potential improvements but I'd need info for that

But I'd say it's a competent list

Except for the Corsair ram

[median frigate]

I live on sheppard afb in tx

[devout forum]

that crap is awful

lemme help you out

[median frigate]

I want to keep the budget as low as possible but revolve it around the 9800x3d

Like around 1500$ I can spend on it

But if I need to sacrifice budget on gpu and upgrade that later I would do that

[devout forum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8KmZrM
Slightly less money, more storage, better memory and optimized motherboard

PSU can be cheaper tho

[dense locust]

How will you update the motherboard?

[devout forum]

has flashback

[dense locust]

Oh

Good

[median frigate]

Why would I do that

[dense locust]

Won’t run the cpu without an update

[median frigate]

Oh I see

[devout forum]

How for this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fpsQBq

1545 before tax

75 bucks cheaper or so than your list was

Only sacrifice really is that you have a 650 (so upgrade path might be a little less powerful)

Lemme see if a 750 would work

[median frigate]

Looks solid to me, I'll save a ton of money buying some parts used as well

Hardwareswap always has some crazy deals

[devout forum]

There you go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Knvt4p

still cheaper than yours and now has a 750

[median frigate]

Yeah that's solid, I'll need to watch a video on how to update that motherboard lmao

You think I should go for 64gbs of ram?

Probably overkill

[devout forum]

no point

unless you play like

No Man's Sky

[median frigate]

Yeah 32 should be enough for me

16 ain't it anymore tho

[devout forum]

BTW
The 9800X3D should be fine on the cooler I looked for because it is better than the one used here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6CHHkGqD8

Watercooling not needed lol

[tranquil pebble]

I'm putting a Peerless Assassin on my 9800x3d

[desert pivot]

yo

i cant update my pc to windows 11

tf is this

anyone help?

ill slide 10 bucks if someone can

[sweet phoenix]

I'd do a better motherboard

Barebones vrms on the lightning

6+1+1

[dense locust]

Why?

[nocturne merlin]

anyone else's arctic p12s make this metallic noise when starting up? I recorded a single one but with all of them it's very noticeable every time they spin to low rpm

[icy ore]

[opaque sedge]

Most of the laptop aint even a laptop its mostly batteries 💀

[tranquil pebble]

Snagged a classic, with box and manuals

Needed to get this before the retro community kinda unforgets it enough to make it stupid expensive

[gleaming sedge]

Why are sfx psu so hard to find holy crap

[wind quail]

Because they're niche so there's less of em and they cost more

You in the US?

[gleaming sedge]

Yea

[balmy solstice]

they are special just like you

🫶

[gleaming sedge]

Found one at microcenter 850 for 150

[wind quail]

That's a good price yeah

[gleaming sedge]

By making a account I can get 25 dollars off as well

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/gritito-gif-17274376822241272426

[balmy solstice]

save money, live better

[gleaming sedge]

Lian li psu decent?

[wind quail]

That's a steal

[wind quail]

Their sfx one yeah it's good

[mortal grail]

Pato that's like 2 yr old info smh

Where has OP techie gone

[mortal grail]

Which one

[wind quail]

Do they've more than one sfx now?

Thought they still had just the one

[gleaming sedge]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/652221/lian-li-sp850-850-watt-80-plus-gold-sfx-fully-modular-power-supply-white

[opaque sedge]

I… someone… someone stop me from going in there

[dusk knot]

Just no

[opaque sedge]

I-

I regret everything

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-panda-gif-what-have-i-done-regret-gif-12790943

[dusk knot]

🤮

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber todays the day 🙂

[acoustic palm]

Jp you’ve built pcs before right

[mortal grail]

Yeah it's alright. But you're limited to 2x8 pins and that price is quite awful

[mortal grail]

They have other good units now

[sinful blade]

He has not

Jp doesn’t know anything about computers

[acoustic palm]

Oh

Damn that’s crazy

[sinful blade]

He’s never even seen one in person

[acoustic palm]

Anyways I gotta question

[gleaming sedge]

to be fair without spending from 150 to 400 dollars theres not much else

[sinful blade]

Shoot it

[acoustic palm]

Would it be incredibly stupid to build my pc at my desk but my room has a carpeted floor

[gleaming sedge]

ive done 3 on a carpeted floor

of course on my desk but i was touching the floor

[sinful blade]

Yeah, just lay down a blanket

That’s what I do

[acoustic palm]

Well it would be “safer”

[frigid stag]

Just build it in the kitchen

Unless that also has carpet

[mortal grail]

If you want specifically a white psu sure but you can get better for less regardless

Different case choice will allow atx as well

[sinful blade]

Do not

[mortal grail]

Many sff/mff allow atx

[frigid stag]

Why?

[gleaming sedge]

i already have a case that is sfx only

[mortal grail]

What's the cpu/gpu

[sinful blade]

Some floors have bad interactions with glass

Such as tile

Just build it on carpet

I put a clean blanket down so I don’t lose anything small into the carpet

[gleaming sedge]

for now it will be ryzen 7 5800x and a 1060 6gb until i can afford a better gpu

[acoustic palm]

Yeah I was gonna do that cause of static or wtv

[mortal grail]

Which gpu do you have in mind

[sinful blade]

I’d give you my 5700xt if I had money

[gleaming sedge]

not sure yet

[frigid stag]

I meant on the counter

[mortal grail]

Committing to an 850 without planning is interesting considering the circumstances

One sec

[acoustic palm]

Ok so - I have the option to build it in the kitchen which doesn’t have a carpeted floor

[gleaming sedge]

a 850 will cover pretty much everything i want to put in it besides like new gen gpu

[frigid stag]

Ye just do it on the counter

[dusk knot]

4 so far

[frigid stag]

Or if you have a garage over there

[acoustic palm]

Alr

[mortal grail]

Well the thing is you only have 2 pcie cable plugs on sp850

[acoustic palm]

No desk in there and super wet and dirty floors

[mortal grail]

You also don't even get fancy cables

So it's not ideal

Usually cooler master has a nice vsfx gold for less

[dusk knot]

Lmao..what.

[mortal grail]

It might just not be on sale rn

Worth waiting for, it's better

[frigid stag]

Ye then kitchen it is

[acoustic palm]

Alr

And the ltt 1st person video is good right

[gleaming sedge]

im guessing its about 250 not on sale

so sale would be about 230

[mortal grail]

When it's on sale it's been as low as 110 for 850w

[gleaming sedge]

and thats saying you can find it

[mortal grail]

And with white available

150 is a lot for even an sfx psu that lacks a full feature set

[gleaming sedge]

newegg has like nothing and amazon only sells used for the most part

[mortal grail]

Yeah that's why I'm saying consider waiting my guy

150 is a lot

Like a LOT for any psu, sfx or not

[frigid stag]

You think it’s not enough?

[gleaming sedge]

sfx not really they are stupidly expensive

[mortal grail]

If it had braided cables I'd encourage it, looks like the version that doesn't have it

[mortal grail]

I've literally helped build sfx systems here for years you can trust me lol

110 is the usual good sfx price

[mortal grail]

It's more like it could end up being like a 5070 which a good 650 is enough

[gleaming sedge]

maybe but they are so rare to find someone actually selling them

[mortal grail]

I think it's just the timing. It's been very common to find good ones for 110

I can see what you see at this moment

But in like a week or two?

I would consider waiting

[gleaming sedge]

not what i mean, i mean no one is selling them

[mortal grail]

Eh

V sfx is a popular pick

I didn't bring it up either but the century mini is also 105

That one is solid

[gleaming sedge]

microcenter has 8, amazon has about the same and some of them are used

[mortal grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hnJp99/montech-century-mini-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-century-mini-750

Good sfx is around 110

We've had as low as 95 even

Play smart with that and an a620i lightning, it's the cheapest way to get into high end sfx

[gleaming sedge]

i already have a motherboard

[mortal grail]

Was it expensive?

[sinful blade]

Doesn’t Corsair have a sfx

[mortal grail]

Not on sale rn

[gleaming sedge]

200+

[mortal grail]

It's there for like 120 regularly

SF and SF L

[gleaming sedge]

not really i bought used

[sinful blade]

Wasn’t sure if they had any on sale refurb

[mortal grail]

So probably like 120-ish

[mortal grail]

They might, that's actually a great suggestion if you can link it

I can never remember refurb store

[gleaming sedge]

i guess all and all i dont have a good reason to go to microcenter now

[frigid stag]

Ah

[mortal grail]

Ye not for 150, I would wait just a little while

[pliant berry]

I love waiting over a month for checks

[sinful blade]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/c/certified-refurbished

[gleaming sedge]

just wanted to have her computer actully going so its not a big annoying paper weight in her room

just wait for cyber monday

[frigid stag]

Oof

[sinful blade]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/certified-refurbished/cp-9020246-na-rf/sf-l-series-sf1000l-fully-modular-low-noise-sfx-power-supply-refurbished-cp-9020246-na-rf

when it comes back in stock

[frigid stag]

There’s amazon sales now so

[mortal grail]

Way better

@gleaming sedge try and see if you can get this one

[sinful blade]

It’s OOS

But I saw it in stock a few weeks ago

So it may be back soon

[mortal grail]

The century mini is also much better for the price that I linked earlier too

SP for 150 is just mad expensive

[gleaming sedge]

really dont want to drive 4 hours to just to go to ikea now though....

[mortal grail]

Lol sorry

I'm helping you save tho I hope

[sinful blade]

I wanna build my next pc in an Xbox 360 case

[pliant berry]

Do I get a plex pass now that they are increasing price

[gleaming sedge]

i know she would be bored in there

[gleaming sedge]

please dont remind me, i really dont have the money for it right now

[mortal grail]

Maybe there's a factory furniture outlet closer to home

4 hours would've been a big day trip

Ikea isn't the be all end all

[pliant berry]

I like to go to ikea just to get ideas really

Also having a skadis with a 3d printer is kind of epic

[gleaming sedge]

i know but she wants to go do something today so it means i spend half my paycheck in gas so we can go somewhere for like 2 hours and spend 8 hours just on the road hoping i dont break down again

[mortal grail]

Movies?

Local shopping?

[gleaming sedge]

we have been every where around us

[mortal grail]

Mini golf, comedy club

[pliant berry]

8hr car drive for shopping???

[gleaming sedge]

and she does not want to stay is (curses of dating someone that does not like to stay in bed all day)

[pliant berry]

Time to travel by plane

[mortal grail]

Arcade, restaurant (save in gas and spend on food)

[gleaming sedge]

4 hours there and 4 hours back

[mortal grail]

That's like a holiday man

[pliant berry]

Ye

[mortal grail]

You could spend on a nice restaurant for that much gas money

[pliant berry]

My friends complain about driving somewhere 40min away xD

[mortal grail]

I mean if you guys like car rides that's different

[gleaming sedge]

i dont really have the money for the arcade since that would be a hour trip to the big city

[pliant berry]

Keeping in mind I am the one offering to drive

[mortal grail]

I mean more importantly is there not an ikea closer to home? Idk I don't wanna step on your toes here

4 hours one way is a crazy road trip

[pliant berry]

I hate going to the city here unless I have work in the area on the same day. Easy 100usd just to get in and eat something

[gleaming sedge]

she wanted to go to a museum down in that area but didnt want to spend 46 dollars for a ticket when i have to spend 50 dollars for the gas round trip

[mortal grail]

Oooo ok she wants to go there

Felt weird for 4 hours for ikea

But museum I get

[gleaming sedge]

sadly no unless i want to go into Canada

[mortal grail]

Damn

Well if she wants to go there it's different

But good luck man

4 hours is a long ass time in the car lol

[pliant berry]

Time to visit canadia then

[gleaming sedge]

very, i would take high way but i dont trust the car on the high way right now

[pliant berry]

How long would it take if you did go highway?

[gleaming sedge]

like 3

[pliant berry]

Oh

Not much difference tbh

[gleaming sedge]

not really

maybe ill go to microcenter and spoil my self to a new mic

give me some kind of reason to go there

she always want to go to different stores but when i pick one she looks at it on google then we dont go in and look around and it can be so annoying at times

[pliant berry]

Oh boy

[gleaming sedge]

shes more of a country girl so tech is a little boring for her so thats why ikea was on the list

good mic recommendations?

oh the G yeti is on sale

[mortal grail]

Fifine on amazon

[gleaming sedge]

already have one

[mortal grail]

For something in MC? Not sure lol

[mortal grail]

You're doing pretty well at that point

Not much better out there until you hit like modmic territory

(I'm not really a guy to talk to for up to date mic suggestions tho)

I feel like the logi mic might be a step back

They've never really had good ones to date

[gleaming sedge]

the one i have now is like a 40 dollar mic

was 100 when i bought it

[pliant berry]

If you consider any yeti, do yeti nano not the og one

[gleaming sedge]

ill just stick to what i have then

[mortal grail]

Yeti finally improved after 15 years?

[gleaming sedge]

maybe headphones

[mortal grail]

The old yetis are rubbish by today's standards

[pliant berry]

Yeah they are, the nano is ok from what I’ve heard

[mortal grail]

Hm alr

[pliant berry]

Still not greatest value though

[gleaming sedge]

nova 5 has better battery life and is cheaper

[mortal grail]

Nova pro is good, amazon has them on sale for like 130 sometimes

Wired or wireless both are decent

[gleaming sedge]

id like wireless ideally

[mortal grail]

Not many good choices for strictly wireless

Nova pro is like one of a handful

[gleaming sedge]

i mean both is fine just wireless mainly would be great

[mortal grail]

Nova pro is the best one off the top of my head

Astro high end is like good, but the mics are garbage

They just don't have good wireless to match wired clarity

Long cable sennheiser > wireless imo

Like hd560s is just plain better

Or game one if you wanted the mic version

[gleaming sedge]

i want wireless so i can use it on my phone and or game with out a shirt on when it gets really hot since i can not stand the cable of my head phones touching my sides and shoulder plus im so tired of the cable at times

[mortal grail]

I mean it's up to you I'm just setting realistic expectations lol

Wireless audio just is not that great on the whole, there are exceptions like above

I think is it cloud iii wireless? Is likely barely on the edge of decent?

There's really very few

If you want top quality sound

[gleaming sedge]

i mean im playing gta and minecraft and maybe some other things and talking on discord im sure almost anything would be fine

im using some HS55 right now and i like it but cord is annoying and the earmuffs are falling off

[mortal grail]

HS55 is not great

A huge array of choices here would be better sounding including everything I mentioned prior

[gleaming sedge]

right and yet i have been doing just fine with these so im sure what ever i pick it will be so much better

[mortal grail]

I've experience with those, they were ok a few years back for like super budget

[mortal grail]

Even still you want it to be a choice that's top shelf quality right

[gleaming sedge]

i got them for like 25 dollars so i was not to worried about that

[mortal grail]

Wired vs wireless, wireless almost always loses

Wireless competes in many instances just to sound like half decent wired

With latency challenges a constant evolving part of it

Unfortunately wireless headsets aren't like wireless mice

Latency still exists

Wireless mice have effectively no latency

Way higher

Like wayyyyy higher

[pliant berry]

Maxwell is pretty nice wireless, mic isn’t the best though

[gleaming sedge]

oh good to know microcenter does price match

[mortal grail]

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/razer/viper-8khz
https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/razer/viper-v2-pro

It's really effectively nil

On audio I'm talking like 10ms range

Not ±2ms

[acoustic palm]

Todays the day 🙂

[gleaming sedge]

for? good luck

[acoustic palm]

Pc parts

I get the rest of em

[mortal grail]

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/astro/a50-gen-4-wireless-2019
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/corsair/void-pro-rgb-wireless

Meanwhile good vs bad wireless headphones^

50ms vs 10ms

Ik but you see what I mean right

Look how big the headphones are

Vs the mouse

40ms more vs 2ms more lmao

And good headphones with a dedicated station is 10

Do you mean the one where they do sweeps

One sec

This right

V2 optical is really close to v3

Oh

Idk the mouse tester graph then

Op1 is good ye

Oh that

Those aren't good to communicate for reccs so I leave them alone

Rarely ever refer to them

People just see a graph that looks like an earthquake reading lmao

Ofc but point still is wireless mice still don't take the L like headphones do

They're so close it's effectively nil

Think of it as I say like

Oled vs ips

Ofc there's a difference

But it's not something that you NEED to leverage

An advantage nonetheless

But it's still effectively nil in the broad scheme of things

I totally get the chasing latency part but yeah

Ik

You're talking only a couple ms

People's internet connections will give them 20x that delay

Yeah

I get what you're saying for sure I just don't put a huge stock into it like other stuff

Like yeah def wireless headphones I always call out

40ms is disgusting

BT wireless buds are like 60-100, it's barely any better and you wouldn't wanna play comp like that

It's just something very few companies have really brought up to scratch with

[pliant berry]

I really thought that’s what it was

[dusk knot]

Hhmm

[gleaming sedge]

microcenter wont price match if the item is on sale at all will they?

[mortal grail]

If it's brick and mortar it should if it advertises price matching

[pliant berry]

Many places that do price matching don’t do sales, but I think there is some other criteria to that

[gleaming sedge]

if they wont price match the amazon listing they might price match the company's listing

[acoustic palm]

Real

[dusk knot]

Where do you find these?

[frigid stag]

I would use them but only outside

Or if I’m playing some casual console game and want to get up to get a drink or something

[mortal grail]

Internet

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-bateman-gif-27617182

[gleaming sedge]

think i should see if the manager is nice and stacks a 25 dollar coupon for signing up for a account and a price match on top of it?

[worn night]

now what’s chat doing

[median frigate]

@mortal grail

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Knvt4p

Gotta rate my build

[wind quail]

Well ik that but they were asking about sfx and lian li only have the SP as sfx afaik

[devout forum]

Would getting a 1000w PSU be stupid for a 9070 XT?

(It's cheaper in SFX to get an A-tier thousand watt Thermaltake one than any 750 or 850 here for some reason)

it's the good Thermaltake SFX kilowatt one at least

[acoustic palm]

Uhhhh…

That gpu can be fixed

Also 500$ for a 9800x3d? Really?

[tacit quiver]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1905748461074686352?s=46&t=VWK8u8ONFpJbTOMEogrvPA

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

Microsoft is closing a loophole in the Windows 11 setup process that let you skip signing in with a Microsoft account. The bypassnro command is going away 😬 https://t.co/JfGew98w6K

X · Mar 28, 2025, 10:26 PM

cmon now microsoft...

[acoustic palm]

Wait so no more local accounts? 😭

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[tacit quiver]

it appears so

theres still gotta be a way

[rancid juniper]

This is BS https://wccftech.com/intel-cancels-its-high-end-xe2-arc-battlemage-bmg-g31-gpus/

[acoustic palm]

Crap

[pliant berry]

I wanna see intel come out with a quadro competitor