#general-chat
1 messages · Page 649 of 1
I love buying 5600 and overclocking to 5600x
wdym, $1000+ isnt affordable? 
Waiting for c4 price to drop so I can cop one
1k and then replace in few years cause of burn in xD
im pretty sure my 5800x frequently is like right below 5ghz
It’s a hot cpu
But no I’ll probably get one if they reach sub 700 mark for a 48 inch tv
DISCORD IS BORKED
42 feels small without any bezels
This you?
Borked is crazy
They updated
Well that guys name is aiden so probably not
That's what happened
ICONS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE CORNER
It's also much worse binned at that. 4.2ghz
Discord update break everything
I haven't had problems but it sure is ugly
It'll do it automatically eventually
My phone will do it at some point but I'll enjoy my last few days of actual discord
Oh that's good
i could push it a bit more but naaaaaah
phone ui had its controversy now its pc's turn
4849 is about as high as it naturally goeds
Just turn off updates in App Store
In settings
Ez pz
I’m running some 2 year old version
Yeah there's no update
The update’s on desktop
I know
I think you can disable it somehow but I don’t want to deal with it rn
It looks awful
Droid?!? (Jokes)
I tried it on my laptop it looks so weird. Only one good change
You can delete images without deleting the whole text message
is this cursed
imagine running 4.2ghz
Mobile is next
How many TB’s you got?
mobile alr got changed a while ago
I’ve got 12…
im broke only 2.5
Kaboom
You know how I feel about the update.
downgrading it to 32
S24+
I'll show you how I feel
Apple can suck my balls.
Indeed
My dog watches the animals on tv
Guys can we have a moment of silence & F's in the chat for OG Discord being destroyed & absolutely disrespected.
We will forever & always remember your sacrifice OG Discord...
F
You can bring it back
The old ui
why is their so much fus about the ui.. i like it
I love these
to the guy who claimed their intel cpu stayed at tdp.. this is at default settings
sidenote, it does run colder
I mean wattage is not everything when you're talking about heat
I don't have that option.
It varies on board model
it used to get hotter
im using the setting intel claims is default rn
Ye you need to go into the discord files and change something
There’s tutorial on yt
Or use custom client which i don’t have any idea about
Guys I have this mobo. I only have one SSD - 1TB, not that fast, and I Want to upgrade...
I do have 3 ssd slots - first used, second under GPU, and third one.
- Does it matter my system will be on slower SSD than games (on the newer, faster)?
- If I wanted to reinstall windows (maybe go from 11 to 10) and install it on faster SSD, does the physical position of SSD matter? Like, the first slot vs the third one?
You want OS on the fastest drive, in the topmost m.2 slot
There's no reason to use w10
if my win already came on the slower one, I suppose there is no way to "transfer" it to new ssd huh
Ltsc and server are a hassle to explain
Just reinstall
I use ltsc iot personally, it's good asf
Especially to people who don’t know how to use it
Other than that it’s good
Slowly getting better at it
Still awkward though lmao
also for context (i dont even know if i said the context before) i'm trying to self learn how to play the accordion
i rented an accordion for like 3 weeks last year
and then this year im renting an accordion for another 3 weeks, so currently this would be my like first month of playing in total?
inteeresting
it was littrely super fast
excatly the same as a standard rufus install
i hate how the neww installer is with taking 1 hour to install updates
not even 30 mins to insttall this and its exatly like regular windows
I swear there is an alternate timeline where Linux did not exist but BSD ended up being used instead.
i hate u
🙂
IT'S ALL DUMB
i like the new ui, just not how glitchy it is
its so annoying
i should propbably ddu these drivers
why
mcirocenter raised bundle prices
l
the bottom right used to be 450$
i will
@mortal grail 😦
@sweet phoenix im guessing getting the 9700x would be a not good idea in this context
doesnt exist
oof
Yeah but 9700x was legit 450$ not even 2 hours ago
And I’m going up Saturday
😭
Is it not anymore?
Not the white mobo
White mobo was 450$ for 9700x
Ye it’s a nicer board too
Yeah I’m getting it
Well
Not double 9000 but still nice cpu
That kinda sucks but can’t change it
$220 on aliexpress
I’m not buying off Aliexpress
Your loss
And that would still be more expensive then the 7700x bundle
I buy cpus off there all the time
How much
450 for 7700x + nice white mobo + 32gb ram
for a decent white board it's at least $160
A good b650 is not 100
There’s none rn for that price
hes paying white tax
That too
not everyone wants a used mobo
Could have something better but oh well
Even with new it'd be around $450 total sooooo
Wow it’s the same price
😮
And you get a better cpu
And I don’t have to wait for shipping
Insignificantly better
I was only getting it at first since it was barely more
hmm
That’s 1080p
Not including lows, which would put them further apart
1080p id imagine low settings with a 4090
turn the res up
In the games I play in 1440p the difference was single digit fps
tbh too slow of a cpu cant bottleneck at 1440p high i expirenced that
Where is the 9800x3d lol
do yall also limit ur steam download speed so your mc server doesnt lag
^
So again
I’ll be getting the bundle from microcenter
That's not single digit
You realize lows exist as well?
Which are more important?
You cannot base off only average fps
Show it
And I’m looking at both lows and averages
C77
That's not showing?
My temporary build to check for ROPs, Ghibli style
Cell shading always looks cool
Why would I prove something to you in a meaningless argument that’ll change nothing
I’m getting the mc bundle it’s the best for me for my wants
Just say u don't know then
Then what's the harm
The harm of what
Hi chat
big hands 
I'm confused what is the point of the chat can someone tell me it is my first time
its whatever you want it to be
Anything tech related
as long as it isnt corn/self harm/harm to others/hate speech/political views and stays relevant to other people's chat
mmmm corn

I hate cornfields
General chat in a server tied to a business that mainly sells computer parts ... Wonder what it might be about 😜
clearly it is about space wizards
Hm
Ai.....
hi
Stable Diffusion XL resolution and SDXL like artifacts on small details. Highly sus.
Yes, it's here to stay whether folks like it or not
right but you don't have to claim its output is your own art. Reread it, looks like you didn't quite. But maybe could have been more upfront about it being AI.
Goes hard
If you've been on the Internet at all in the last 24 hours you'd know that chatgpt released an update that does Ghibli art
I dont keep up with ChatGPT
You don't have to keep up with chatgpt to go anywhere online where viral stuff happens
All of social media has been flooded with Ghibli ai art all day
Well I have heard nothing about it. Maybe because I was touching more grass than usual today
ai art is gross
“Art”
takes the art out of art
It’s like a weird mix of existing art
Put together in a really weird way
It’s creepy
my problem with it is dishonest usage, not being upfront about what it is, etc
i think this might be the first time i agree with you
Looking at 1k view videos and hmm
Seems legit
overall, yes... but now that the box is opened it can not be resealed
I do silly stuff with it... like try to make an LLM argue with itself
Meh it’s mostly still search engine level stuff
It’s basically google with extras
The stuff most people have access to at least
And image generation I guess
image gen has potential for tremendous sillyness
it just sucks that people try to claim its output as their own art
Bcu is fire tho
Ye I’ve seen the bs room temp iq memes people use it for on tiktok
Started like 2 years ago
can you call it ai art if you train the ai on your own art
Maybe with ai there can be game engines using assembly
Its over
Ye this was like in 2023
lol unrealistic
Dawg you’re so late
There’s the bcu now
bombardino crocodilo would win easily
I just saw these a couple days ago
why doesnt lconnect set a static color
Yeah you’re outdated
You dunno Tim cheese backstory
Good
Microsoft is reviving a partially melted down nuclear reactor just to power their ai, it's definitely just a search engine though
Ngl nuclear is the best energy source
That we can utilize currently
Would probably be better to use it for actual energy for people though, instead of ai which will be used to increase profit margins
Finally they made a good choice
Bill gates is also starting a reactor in Wyoming for the same purpose
Meta is also looking for a reactor to use
As long as there is more nuclear
Yeah
They are going to be using a lot of power regardless of the source. They will do their ai stuff no matter what, so its not an issue that they have a plant for it
is some sort of upscaling going on here? looks off to me
theirs um
and it might make people less scared of nuclear energy... hopefully
the mf 5500 was really holding me back, 13600kf is a godsend
yeah no wonder, gun looked off
Well yeah the 5500 sucks
Even just the use of nuclear is good, it’s clean efficient and easily the best energy source
dont get me wrong, very capable, it can still do 120fps
at least it runs better with the new CPU and all
most rando yt reviews are just made up numbers
100% no
nuclear energy might be clean but our mishandling of it is not
aye 180fps go brrrr
most people dont know how to properly benchmark so i wouldnt trust it regardless
i mis high fps
turn off motion blur
why would u want either
We handle it very well
You should see how waste is stored
found my limit quality and balance fsr gives same fps
quality time
lets generate some frames
framegen is almost perfect, theirs like a SLGIHT delay that messes up my aim
my friends conviced me to play valorant
smh
its quite bad
fake frames wont help you in a comp game
FG input delay is the entire reason I will hate FG
Until reflex 2 and similar is widespread I wouldn't dare try FG on a comp game lol
why does framegen exist
It's existed since the 2010s with TVs for smoother visuals
my friend has a 13600kf and 6700 and only plays comp yet wants a better GPU...
The whole point is to make it look smoother
oops i said rong thing
thats not really fg though
some friends honestly
Not quite the same no, same concept however
should i recomend a 5070 to bro, he only plays fortnite and valorant
If he could find an msrp one sure
it will be good years from now, its still not nearly good enough
It's just a glorified 4070S
bet
Which at msrp isn't bad
I'd recommend him a reality check
he plays 1080p too, he just needs more consistant fps
Better cpu > gpu @ 1080p comp
5070 is a lot for 1080p
fn and val are cpu based, at 1440p comp settings my 9800X3D barely gets used with my 7900 XTX
I would say its too much
whats better than a 13600kf lmfao
?
I had an i5-8400 and a 1060 6GB and that was perfectly fine for competitive gaming, your friend has hardware much more powerful than that
i'm serious about the reality check
X3D
Not all but AM5 def
14700K is really the highest id go theres no need for a 14900K
bet
i suspect he has to rma his cpu kek, but its littrely only valorant he has issues in, he just bought more ram too
KF is better bin on average
Thing with 13600K is you can mostly tap out lga1700 perf with it
So if he wants way more you go 7800x3d/9800x3d
6p 8e is lowkey enough
For those games it is ye
more and more games are requiring 8p as recommended spec
for every game
i havent had issues
whats with the 6700, still good in 2025?
ill have bro rma his 13600kf or atleast put a 12600kf in he has one in his closet
6700 should be pretty strong for his use case tbh
i cant see problems hes having kek, mines is fine
He'd still gain fps with more but the main bottleneck will be cpu
poo cpu frfr
It's just the type of game
All comes down to the API, nature of the gameplay and the balance of gpu and cpu render rate
If he was playing like all AAA then a 13600KF would be fine with like a 4090
Lol
What games? I feel like most these days are still fine on 6c and that's including windows. 6p + 8e means the game can have a full 6 cores plus e cores if needed
i have a 6 core cpu that can play games just fine too kek
Yeah 6 will be good for a while
only cpu i have with issues is my 4 core cpu
games dont use e-cores at least almost all dont, on 8p cpus you can achieve the most fps by disabling e-cores and overclocking
cyberpunk, alan wake 2, starfield, dragons dogma 2, jedi fallen order. just to name a few
so basically only the AAA ones
i mean they are most popular are they not?
you just listed a bunch of games i played just fine
they are not the most popular, except one
you play just fine but 8p would perform better, even at the same freq
they are VERY far from that
benchmark plz
13600k vs 14700k same clocks
that was just a few examples theres many more
the examples you picked were not at all representative of the most popular games played
i'd say the most popular ones are less demanding games
like Fortnite, CS2, Minecraft, etc
you can research, i play older games
fortnite is demanding tbh
not necessarily
getting high fps is erm, demading
anything cpu intensive 8p will have an advantage
cod and fn are more mainstream examples
happy?
i guess so
they can 100% run on potato hardware though if you do not care about high settings
I mean tbh 10p would perform better still, we just don't have a current example to show that
we have 16c
Where
10900K closest ur gonna get lmfao, and youd have to use 10c/10t, with OC
10900k vs 11700k
Exactly
10th gen way too old to prove muster now
10900K still top dog of that gen, 11900K was a mistake
If we had a 10p ultra chip or a 12c zen 6 chip we'd see that scaling I'm sure
10 core x3d
ihonestly
i wouldnt mind 10c ccds
or 12c ones
next gen getting a core bump would be nice
well duh itd be a lot better
12c is planned for zen 6 iirc
if they used monolithic itd be even better but thats not happening
12c ccds
how wil they distbute it
Unlikely 8c is still r7
It'd be more like
8c r5 probably
12c r7
16c r9 and 24c r9
Something to that effect
time to bust out the 420mm aios
proably 12 and 8 core ccds
Zen 5 was a meme, we get core bumps and a new imc with zen 6
It's gonna be a pretty significant jump
At least, that's the intent
goddamnit dude
time to use openrgb to sync multiply pcs
zen5 imc was binned better, 6600 1:1 was possible, we still got a decent uplift even on non-x3d, at least compared to intel but thats just a meme at this point
I was bringing it back lol
lmfao
The problem with zen 5 is non x3d had benefits that didn't reward normal people
Actually he is right
i want a 9700x unironicly
Zen 5% is really true since sse and avx1 weren't the benefactors there
Cyberpunk is faster on a 7700x vs 7600x
i mean its a good chip if you get for $220
if i do a am5 swap ill do it
We saw the actual benefits from patches that also gave us benefits for all ryzen
aliexpress 
So in one sense zen 5 gave everyone a big bump
biggest improvement is overclockable x3d
But it's always gonna be that way if you have more cores
Like I don't need to look this up
Check 9950x3d vs 9800x3d
9950x3d is faster
7900X performs worse than the 7700X in games, which is funny
The extra ccd handles offload and runs better
Exactly
6+6 ccds 
Ye cos 6+6
prob cause background stuff can go to non x3d cache, and better binn
its such a meme
You have a bigger need for a completely clear 6 core ccd for the game
Because when you game its a 6 core chip and when the other ccd is accessed there is a large latency penalty
Yep
im aware, ive been saying this since zen2
if you need MT always get the 50X variant
There is scaling to 8, and there would be to 10 or 12 as well lol
laughs in no ccd
Well for games like cyberpunk yea
i mean they arent CCDs but its similar
Theres a couple % variance between the two
All that said tho, a 13600KF can still eek out like over 95% of lga1700 performance if you tune it correctly
Sometimes the 9 is like 2% slower, sometimes is faster
bro has ddr4
he not gonna do that

The other guy has ddr4?
oh idk
I think on average its still a couple percent faster
There's two 13600kfs
i meant vex
ill haev u know i have fast ddr4
If you have ddr4 yeah it's big rip
its not tuned though
u changed speed
and i changed timings
that doesnt help if u change speed and only do primaries
performance is in secondary and terts
ggod said id seed a improvment
fr
Proper tuning is way more than 4000 lol
ggod said its fine :/
He's a nice guy, don't hate him 
they love you tho
same reason 6000 CL28-36-36-30 only primaries changed, will perform worse than CL40-40-40-80 fully tuned

do i really need it
yes
if i said no, would you even stop
i can only see 240
thats not how it works
more fps = less input delay and smoother motion even if you were at 60Hz

Would say beyond 240 you start to kinda hit diminishing returns tho
At that point changing peripherals like the monitor, mouse, keyboard, make bigger impacts
Cos you drop input latency that way instead of marginal frametime drops
if you want to even perceive anything beyond 240fps, you'd have to get new eyeballs
Lol
u can only see 240 of it
You can see more than 240hz
if ur monitor isnt above 240 u cant see it 🧌
Its just harder for you to tell but you can see the difference
The perceived difference is very small
lcd --> oled would have a bigger impact
Yeah
Exactly
i don't see any difference between 100 or so and 240 personally
Oled is huge
get new eyes
i love my oled
ill get cpu after i get a oled lol
oled is life changing
i want 9070xt, then i want oled, then i wantx3d
i can tell a difference between 144Hz and 165Hz, its not much but its an intelligible difference
The input latency drop going to oled is a far bigger jump than pushing your frametime latency lower with a better gpu
are newegg open box worth?
nah you can't have different eyes than other people, everyone's genetics are the same
thats impossible
I think any open box is
If you see it snatch it
@mortal grail microcenter raised their prices 😦
If it works sure but don't do 50 series ones
motion clarity as well
for a motherboard
50 series open box > missing rops
no g2g artifacts
Yesss
I'll put the rops in myself if I have to
Oh that's not too bad
i love my monitor
But the 7700x bundle went up 20$
4k wher
hmm i guess i can rma it if its a damaged mobo
i love my mini led
he could do what i suggested but he seemed opposed
What
i wanna get two oled monitors so they match
colours and HDR look a lot nicer than my x27q
I mean his pc was quite well done when we had the 9700x bundle
Changing to a different bundle is fine but he still wasn't really.losing
$220 9700X, B650, 2x16 any hynix. would come out to be cheaper
I’m not buying off Aliexpress

Understandable
only 220 for all that?
Why not
no for 9700X
why is ali so bad
oh




Mainly shipping but other things too
its not ive gotten all my clients cpus from there lmao its great
I think shipping is free for the listings I saw
worst is u wait a bit
Time wise
for all of US its under 2 weeks
A week is nothing
who tf is ali anyway
Aliexpress isn't bad if the source is verified, but if you're opposed to it then don't feel pressured
Yeah its really not bad
Yeah I’d rather pay the 50$ extra at microcenter tbh
I think majority of the time its a week and under right
$50 more for instant shipping
well yolo
But idt 7700x to 9700x is worth a 50$ difference
That's kinda pricey
microcenter also has good warranty support
What are you using the pc for
it is worth $50 in the long run you will thank yourself
That too
its going with my 9800x3d and my 5080
Gaming or anything else
gaming and light productivity
You don't need x870e
man I want a 5080 so bad
B650/x670, even a620 will work
well too late now
In c77 it was barely a difference, nothing noticeable
Lowkey think its pointless ngl
ahh i found a usecase for my 2300x that doesnt make it feel slow
Ask better questionssss 
damn
oh well i got it for the 5 m.2
i would fill all 5
since you can fill in 4 before you lose pcie lanes
Oh well
i know people with like 100tb in their pc
Like…
another 500tb in their servers
ok its my fault that i bought small m.2 drives ok
And I bet they only use like 3
Lmfao
iv seen them, they can fill it
im a data hog
what monitor res do you plan on using in the long run
More than that you become weird
gg ignoring a demographic of pc users
I have 4 
2-6tb is reasonable depending
I have like 30tb btw so I'm self reporting 
ill check the pins when i get the motherboard just in case
Yeah I have seen some videos show larger improvements but many times it is pretty small increases like that. It is a good bit faster for other workloads though
"final sale-not returnable"
@mortal grail how does one aquire the role
I like to keep all my games and unmarked videos with my favorite stars downloaded
i can still rma it if bad
i would not trust an open box mobo from newegg that is non returnable
I have a 1440p 180hz monitor
Fro some reason I really want to get a 9600x even though the 7700x is probably the better buy for me
I would be trading some single core for multi core
Of?
Thing is that I dont play games that use multi core
9600X performs better in games, unless u need the multi threaded performance
al u need is 4 cores
Like cyberslop for example
do you have the full amount of money to spend for either cpu?
techie
They seem to trade blows really
be a nerd
i am
Yeah but between these 2 I’m looking for price to performance
Give it time and we nominate based on good knowledge
gotta be around here for a while and show you're knowledgeable
ok
not enough
But I play singlethread games so I think 9600x would be better for me
and not be demeaning and rude
i still hold the world record for 6750 xt in 3dmark timespy
At the same time

you added that on purpose
for one person in mind yes
what res
rate my hardware techies
I am on 1080p but will eventually go to 1440p
well the 9700x is clearly the winner then
65w vs 105w
im tired of this degraded 13600k
just keep 13600kf and fix it
you decide if thats worth it for you to go 9600X
better single core performance, multi core performance, and gaming performance
50$ extra? Really?
it has more cache as well
yeah
Yeah I guess so. Its also pretty good for other workloads too so I think 9600x is for me
If I remember right its like 180 on ali
do any techies even know networking here
should be, i got one for as low as 170
I do but I'm not a techie so you can't trust me

Ok
gigabit feels slow
the 9700x is noticeably smoother, the lows are shown
That’s still a negligible difference
yes
Yeah that pic isnt a good example of it but true
eh wrong
bet
its not but ok, now if it was average yes
i have 6a
🐱
im good
very
I literally sent a pic of a benchmark from the game I play
i can do 10gbase-t if i wanted
its $50 what do you care? if you plan to OC its also much better in that aspect
Still pissed it got raised
Bro no way you can swap the motherboard in the micro center bundle
I did not know this
You can’t
Unless you mean the predetermined ones
rip
single core ccd go brrrr
they still give you $20 off any motherboard with a cpu purchase
its monolithic
why am i debating running 48gb ram rn, im weird
The more you buy...
sotru...
I can spend 500$ on the 9700x bundle or just get the 7800x3d bundle for 600 😭
might as well get a 9800x3d atp
do it
Why’s it only 50$ more
Then 7800x3d bundle
did u install 9070xt
No
*60
50
Man
Wait 9600x at micro center is cheaper now
The 7800x3d bundle is terrible
quok
200
Dont think there is a point of getting from ali then if I can just drive 15 min to mc
I could get white ram + white mobo for 8$ more with a decent prices 7800x3d
Without going to mc
id sell you mine but you don't seem the type to like pre owned things
Yoohoo
On ali right
Idm pre owned things but I’m not buying stuff through non official stores
yep
Are clocks held back by the conservative power limit
understandable
I also don't feel like taking it out of my mobo after re-pasting it and putting a nice arctic cooler on it
like, half an hour ago
what do you have the money for
I have
701.99 left in my bank account to spend
I don’t wanna spend all of it tho
I want like to spend at most 600
hmm
save your money and wait till your next paycheck
take time to think it over
That’s not for many months
I only have a summer job
use gift cards
I got a buncha money from my birthday
they're good for you
I forgot
Hmmmm
Id need to tell my dad that they ran out of stock or smth cause we’re going up Saturday or we’re supposed to
Then I’d need to wait for a decent priced 7800x3d or 9800x3d
do you need a new motherboard or anything from the bundle
if not then go for 9800x3d
I need a cpu mobo and ram
I need all of them
Anyways
mobo first, cpu 2nd, ram 3rd
you can still boot bios without ram
but you can't really have a setup without a motherboard
u can?
you can get a new cpu in the summer
Why in the hell would I upgrade from a 7700x
and 9950x3d if you're a content creator
I thought you were aiming for performance

Performance per dollar
Is what I’m aiming for
I’m not gonna waste money
you aren't
its an investment
and again, getting it thru microcenter means you can trade it in
Should I turn the cpu upgrade thing on?
360mm aio
Okie
Trade in is gpu exclusive no?
might crash your pc tho if the silicon mobsters really hate you
is it?
Yes
I thought it was cpu and gpu
oh
well
newegg does it

my brain isn't braining this late
8 hour shift got me fudgesickled up
It didn't do anything, wouldn't even toggle on
weird
I’m making a brand new system
uhhh id consult with your mobo provider 
every bios looks the same nowadays
fun
Sup guys any ideas for desk chairs.. my back hurts…
I need like a manual or sm
I'll do it tomorrow its almost 12AM
any well rated chair that doesn't say "gaming" at all in the title
that or andaseat if you're rich
or secretlab if you're richer
your cpu just might not be compatible with it
Im sitting on small table …
Yeah I’ll have to let my dad know
Maybe idk
you can always manually overclock your cpu
with that extreme tuning intel thingamajiggy
Yeah but i don't really wanna go down that route
youre gonna have such a good time with your first build

Rather not ruin a $300 peice of silicon
Yeah
then you can just undervolt it by a lil and boost performance
won't really ruin much
You can actually make your LGA 1851 CPU run quite a lot better by simply tweaking a few settings in the bios: decreasing the power consumption, temperature and even getting more performance out of arrow lake.
Here's a simple guide on how to do it, showcasing both the static and dynamic methods.
This is gonna work for every Core Ultra 5 CPU out...
would ya look at that
a video for your exact cpu
time to dump my phone
Do not do this, intel XTU and ryzen master are the quickest ways to screw up your CPU
If youre overclocking or undervolting your CPU, only use BIOS
Don’t listen to them, the best thing you can do is learn from uh not mistakes 

I dont understand
I had no issues with ryzen master
It just changes your bios settings
Ryzen master likes to set settings by itself or not what you set sometimes
Its a good looking card
9070 XT?










