general-chat

[sinful blade]

Do not

[fresh timber]

you should have seen what i ran on ddr4 kek

[rancid juniper]

you could spend like 10 more on a much better kit

lmfao

[sinful blade]

Go find a cl32 or cl30 for a few bucks more

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[fresh timber]

interesting

how easy is ddr5 to overclock

add minus 8cl easy

[sinful blade]

It’s fine, but just get that cl30 base kit

Then OC it

It’s worth the extra 5-10 bucks dawg

[onyx merlin]

@velvet summit will look into AMD then when I get a new PC in 5-6 years from now my i9-14900F works great

[velvet summit]

oh yeah 14900f would be fine for a good few years

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NRpVC8 mhh

[sinful blade]

If you wanna get a server pc, a 3600 style build is pretty cheap

Much better

[onyx merlin]

Ya my pc right now R16 aurora is great as I just casually game 1-2 hours a day since working all the time granted I game for 6-10 hours on my days off

[devout forum]

NGL I still remember when Alienware prebuilts sucked donkey balls

[sweet phoenix]

6000c32 or lower is hynix

[onyx merlin]

They actually arent that bad anymore

they been improving

[sweet phoenix]

6000c38 is likely micron or samsung

[fresh timber]

micron good or nah

[sweet phoenix]

Hynix is much better for overclocking

much

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NRpVC8 i shall save for this

[sweet phoenix]

B650m pro rs would also give you much more of an upgrade path

[fresh timber]

its amd not like i can get anything out of it

[sweet phoenix]

Or b850 pro-a

[sweet phoenix]

What?

[fresh timber]

whats wrong with 850m

[fresh timber]

overclocking, you cant go past 6400 on am5

[sweet phoenix]

Bad vrms, but fine enough for the 7500f

[onyx merlin]

what is command to check XP to next level again ?

I am trying to reach champion level

[sweet phoenix]

Yes but you can tighten timings a lot

[fresh timber]

could it do a potential 7800x3d or 9800x3d

in idk, 5 years or so when i wanna upgrade it

[sweet phoenix]

7800x3d maybe. 9800x3d no.

6+1+1 for the vrms is very barebones

[fresh timber]

interesting

rn the 5700x3d is loooking appealing again kek

[onyx merlin]

half way thru level 38 lol

[devout forum]

Even C32 is guaranteed Hynix on 6k?

[fresh timber]

lol

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yv8xt3

[sweet phoenix]

Yes

[devout forum]

I thought it was 6000CL30 that's guaranteed

But hey

[sweet phoenix]

5600+ cl32 and lower

[fresh timber]

UGH 320, fine ill save for that

[devout forum]

That just means I might be able to get it even cheaper

[sweet phoenix]

There was also an x670 on woot for $120 recently. I imagine well see similar sales soon enough

[fresh timber]

still making 5700x3d look appealing kek

[sweet phoenix]

5700x3d is around $300

Unless used

$275 new atm

[fresh timber]

these fake?

[sweet phoenix]

No way to know without looking at the seller

[fresh timber]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808330716084.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.7ec51aeevr97jW&algo_pvid=cfc0c9d5-5769-4ef0-99a6-5201aba684a5&algo_exp_id=cfc0c9d5-5769-4ef0-99a6-5201aba684a5-1&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"32"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!263.18!227.86!!!1903.00!1647.62!%40210318ec17430154210838588ea800!12000045952141913!sea!US!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=IWIvuRDy76Yv&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[sweet phoenix]

Last i saw there weren't any 5700x3d on ali but ig that changed

[sweet phoenix]

Looks ok

Maybe

[onyx merlin]

Arent used cpus risky buy ? like someone could make it seem like your getting a good one but fake it somehow

or it could not work lol

[fresh timber]

cpus dont die like that unless intel

[onyx merlin]

Intels are not that bad lol... the one in my old pc that I got in 2012(My parents pc now) still works granted whole things slower now from its old age...

[fresh timber]

tldr , dont buy used 13-14th gen cpus

[onyx merlin]

but the CPU is still chugging along

[fresh timber]

us 13th gen intel users are stuck with no upgrade path cause any used cpu is a time bomb

[onyx merlin]

I mean I suppose... But you can say same thing about human body sometimes,.

[fresh timber]

the human body doesnt randomly degrade it self or oxydizes it self.. when taken care of and made right

[onyx merlin]

'well ya but human body tends to expire after a usage date of 60-120 years

depending on genetics and health

[fresh timber]

cpus should exceed that

in terms of health

maybe degrades a little but should fuction

[onyx merlin]

what cpu you using ?

[onyx merlin]

I know intel obvious 13th gen

[velvet summit]

it's not that intel cpus are bad
it's that intel 13th generation to 14th generation had some issues with degredation because intel failed at engineering it properly

[onyx merlin]

but the model ?

[bronze fern]

not selected

[fresh timber]

its in my name

[onyx merlin]

oh

is my cpu one of those degration issue ones ?

[velvet summit]

all of them are
you need to make sure to have the latest bios update to prevent it, and you can degrade the cpu just by turning the pc on

with the older bios versions

[devout forum]

That last half sentence is the crazy part

[proud jackal]

still waiting for my rejection email

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[bronze fern]

i want the 5090

9070xt is fine but i want MORE power

[devout forum]

I wouldn't trust any 5090

[proud jackal]

5090 here too

[devout forum]

They're all fire hazards lmfao

[bronze fern]

not really

my friend has his

since launch

no issues lol

[devout forum]

Even the Astral will just let you know it's about to set itself on fire instead of stopping it happening
And even that only when you have their stupid software running

[devout forum]

Yet.

[bronze fern]

astral is too much for me imo

[bronze fern]

4 months, no issues

[devout forum]

But like the fundamental spec is bad

It's a ticking time bomb because it adheres to the spec

[onyx merlin]

@bronze fern https://wccftech.com/asus-rog-astral-rtx-5090-surprisingly-catches-fire-burn-marks-seen-on-gpu-pcb/

[devout forum]

Due to the spec instead of in spite of it

[lone mango]

I mean the connector has improved but they almost negate the improvements by drawing more power and removing the extra power rails

[bronze fern]

i have seen it

[devout forum]

So literally no 5090 is safe lmao

[onyx merlin]

dam 5090 is so powerful it will catch on fire for browsing the firetrucking web

[lone mango]

That 5090 went out from a vrm failure

[bronze fern]

i wish nvidia made that connector

not some 3rd party... whoever it is

[onyx merlin]

like how the firetruck does a GPU catch fire from web browsing

[devout forum]

Uh

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[limber crane]

you gonna pay over msrp no matter what as long as its a 5090? (no shade just asking)

[devout forum]

It was nGreedAI essentially designing the spec

[fresh timber]

lol it’s funny. I abused and overclock mines no issue, bacca undervoted and theirs died

[bronze fern]

nvidia didn't desing the connector

memory is from samsung

not everything is from nvidia lol

[devout forum]

Bro reciting sales propaganda be like

[lone mango]

vrm failed and blew up

[devout forum]

Nvidia did in fact have an overwhelming say in the designing of the connector

[bronze fern]

blackwell uses ddr7 from samsung

the connector... idk who it is

[limber crane]

nvidia has them trained well

[lone mango]

i would say its not a 5090 issue its a coincidence it just makes the card look worse

[worthy meteor]

PCI SIG does the connector standard

[proud jackal]

i have covid

[fresh timber]

Would it be the pcie people who should have validated it

[worthy meteor]

but it's Nvidia deciding to use it and putting it on the reference board

[limber crane]

ok?

[fresh timber]

To be fair Nvidia is doing it the stupid way

[proud jackal]

[lone mango]

But for the connector we have to wait and see because there arent many 5090s out there

[bronze fern]

im the oldest here I think

good luck everyone

[lone mango]

Whereas there were a lot more 4090s out there

[proud jackal]

@bronze fernsure youngin

[dusk knot]

I can't believe Theo doesn't have a 5090. We can't live like this.

[devout forum]

It doesn't matter who makes the physical connector
They all make it after the design spec nVidia made

And that design spec is fundamentally and irreparably awful

[devout forum]

PCI SIG basically just nodded on it because nGreedAI told them it's already done and perfectly safe

[devout forum]

See above

[lone mango]

I think they would be ok if they kept the 3 power rails because that new connector is tight

[limber crane]

If you open and test a GPU, you can only get a replacement through Newegg, not a refund right?

[worthy meteor]

pretty sure it's still 30 days refund unless it's one of the items where it says it'll have a restocking fee

[limber crane]

ah well, wasnt selected anyway 😄

now to sit in meetings for the next 3 hours

[fresh timber]

Sorry guys

The Amazon truck got in an accident

Your delivery will be late

[dusk knot]

Oh noes

[onyx merlin]

I already preordered the RTX 9090 which has 950 GB Vram and is so powerful it can control nuclear bombs and other high tech it was only 2 million dollars (JK)

[dense locust]

950 gb of ram? Na you’re giving nvidia too much credit

It’ll be 48gb by then

[devout forum]

48?

I think you meant to say 32.1

[dense locust]

You see it’ll be $8000 by then

Gotta add value to make the chum… I mean customers buy

[dusk knot]

I mean, it doesn't take much processing power to control a nuke 🤔

[velvet summit]

you dont even need much processing power to control a whole ass nuclear power plant

[dusk knot]

I think you got scammed

[devout forum]

They advertise 96 gigs
They include 12 gigs on the card
Then they upscale it to 16 gigs
And finally 6× FG to 96

[dense locust]

Don’t most of them still use floppy disks?

[dusk knot]

Here in the US. I believe so

[devout forum]

@dusk knot seems legit to you?

[dense locust]

I assume it’s for offline reasons right? Right?

[velvet summit]

i mean, idk why they would use floppy disks when there are cheaper options

[frigid stag]

I haven’t seen one in over a decade

[dusk knot]

Seems legit to me. Nvidia does no wrong

[velvet summit]

i guess to retrofit the system it probably would cost more but idk, floppys just seem to be more expensive for no benefit

[devout forum]

Impossible without artificial intelligence ofc

[dusk knot]

More's law is dead, AI is the future

[devout forum]

It's to do with old stuff

Basically their computers have software that ONLY runs on those fossils

[velvet summit]

well, yeah, i know that some stuff still requires DOS, but alot of older systems are retrofitted to "simulate" the old hardware basically so that they are more reliable

though this is more on like the factory side of things

[devout forum]

Again

There are cases where you can't simulate the old hardware

And it's mission critical so

It demands certain certifications that modern hardware just can't get

Some of it is proprietary out the bum

[rancid juniper]

guess the game

[devout forum]

FH5

Or 6?

Whichever is in Mexico

[rancid juniper]

Nope

[dusk knot]

Gta5

[rancid juniper]

lol no

[dusk knot]

Uughh

[devout forum]

It has to be Forza

[rancid juniper]

it aint

[dusk knot]

Idk, but that car is looking gooooood

[devout forum]

Ain't no way

[dusk knot]

Forza horizon 4

[rancid juniper]

ITS NOT FORZA, NOTHING FORZA

[dusk knot]

Fo-. I got nothing

[rancid juniper]

So, no more guesses then?

[craggy shoal]

The Crew?

[rancid juniper]

nope

[craggy shoal]

Bruh

Burnout?

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[craggy shoal]

What's that one that released a year or two ago that didn’t do good?

[rancid juniper]

i dont remember burnout having licensed cars

[dusk knot]

Need for speed something

[craggy shoal]

Is it Burnout?

[rancid juniper]

close, whats the name?

[craggy shoal]

Idk the latest one

[rancid juniper]

no

[craggy shoal]

Paradise Remastered?

[dusk knot]

);

[rancid juniper]

bro you were close and now hit way too far

☠️

[craggy shoal]

What :D

[fresh timber]

Meat

[craggy shoal]

Meat

[rancid juniper]

ok ill give you a hint, what do they call it when you try out a car? @craggy shoal @dusk knot @devout forum

[fresh timber]

Yummy meat

[craggy shoal]

Hold on

[dusk knot]

Test driving

[craggy shoal]

Solar Crown

[rancid juniper]

bingo

[dusk knot]

Never heard of it

[craggy shoal]

Bruh

[dusk knot]

[rancid juniper]

yea because its ass

[dusk knot]

Damn. Ok

[rancid juniper]

lol

game could've been better, they're still updating

[fresh timber]

Chat

My meat taste good

So good

[sweet phoenix]

Let's not

[dusk knot]

Yes. The meat you cooked in your kitchen, either using your oven, or alternatively the grill..yes

[rancid juniper]

hmmmm

[fresh timber]

What’s wrong with talking about chicken

[rancid juniper]

giving me m3 vibes

[dusk knot]

You're making it weird

[fresh timber]

No your assuming

Weirdos

[dusk knot]

That's from a Game!!?

[rancid juniper]

no no, thats a real pic

[sweet phoenix]

You know what you were implying. Please don't be annoying.

[dense locust]

The aliasing shows that

[dense locust]

What about their assuming?

[dusk knot]

Oh. I would have been shocked

[fresh timber]

Not sure

[dense locust]

[fresh timber]

I’m eating that chicken

Yum yum

Who wants some chicken

[rancid juniper]

gottem

[dense locust]

I know you’re joking can’t tell if jp is tho

[lone mango]

Grill goes so hard I gotta do it more

[dusk knot]

Right
...

[rancid juniper]

https://hypebeast.com/2024/11/bmw-m3-gtr-need-for-speed-most-wanted-real-prototype-info

[lone mango]

Fellas

[dusk knot]

You guys should word your sentences better 💀

[lone mango]

Lian li a3 or fractal pop mini

[sweet phoenix]

A3

[craggy shoal]

A3 easy

[lone mango]

Ah man fractal went up in price

It used to be like 60

with fans

Now 90

[dense locust]

I think all cases went up in price

[fresh timber]

I’m getting this over a3

[lone mango]

Ah yeah I forgot about this

[fresh timber]

It’s even smaller

[lone mango]

There is another version of that on ali only

[fresh timber]

A3 is borderline sff

STD is right on the sff line

[lone mango]

I think the other is just called pro

[fresh timber]

Yup

[lone mango]

Has a little more ventilation

[fresh timber]

Why did they call it STD

😭😭😭

[slate fractal]

why are we talking about stds

[fresh timber]

A case name

Don’t make it weird

[lone mango]

Like how the a3 has a closed panel and the more open wood panel

[fresh timber]

Yup

[lone mango]

Hear me out

[fresh timber]

Sus

[slate fractal]

lopunny

[fresh timber]

O no

[lone mango]

Just get the all black closed panel and file away the gaps

[sweet phoenix]

sigh

[fresh timber]

I behaved

They did not

[slate fractal]

he said hear me out

i was finishing his sentence

[fresh timber]

Then you said something weird

He did not

[lone mango]

Yeah i did

[fresh timber]

John didnt even play it off

[slate fractal]

me and him are blood relatives its like when you finish eachothers sentences

[fresh timber]

I’m eating

Stop

[lone mango]

[slate fractal]

im not

im starving

[lone mango]

Idk whats going on right now

[fresh timber]

Idk

Anyways

[lone mango]

The front panel makes very little difference right

Since the psu would be blocking most of that

[slate fractal]

psu

[fresh timber]

Yeah

I’m using a atx psu

I should buy a new psu tho, current one is loud and and vibrates a lot

Carpet dampens it rn

[lone mango]

vibrate? is the fan really that bad

[fresh timber]

A blade broke it self

[slate fractal]

your not supposed to do that

[lone mango]

Oh ok

This makes sense

[slate fractal]

no like

[fresh timber]

Yup

[slate fractal]

dont just say your computer is on carpet

[lone mango]

[slate fractal]

go back

[lone mango]

We love dust

[fresh timber]

Currently it’s

It’s only for a few days

Idc

[slate fractal]

tiktok shop is very reliable place for gpus

totally

[dense locust]

Do it

[craggy mortar]

Discord... why?

[fresh timber]

Chat we just lost

@sweet phoenix can I borrow your car

I need to win

[sweet phoenix]

I'm fairly sure my engine is not meant for racing

[fresh timber]

What you got

V8?

V6?

[sweet phoenix]

Caddilac srx 4

[fresh timber]

disgusting

[sweet phoenix]

Idr what engine one sec

[fresh timber]

Sell it for a sports car

[frigid stag]

It’s not built is it

[sweet phoenix]

V6

I could probably sell it for more than i paid but nah, I love this car

[fresh timber]

Buy a corvette

[sweet phoenix]

Even though someone keyed it literally two days after I bought it

[frigid stag]

Corvette is expensive

[fresh timber]

It’s cheap

Ngl

[sweet phoenix]

Looks like I could sell it for 9-11k

[fresh timber]

@sweet phoenix common bro

You gotta get one

[sweet phoenix]

I don't really gaf about how fast my car goes

I don't do over 85

I did 95 once and it was because I was on the way to the hospital

And that was in my old 2007 camry that had 280k miles on it

[fresh timber]

for legal reasons i have not went past the limit, MY DAD ON THE OTHERHHAND

[sweet phoenix]

I do 85 if traffic is doing 85, normally I sit around 75 on the highway

[rancid juniper]

rocket car

[fresh timber]

@sweet phoenix is this a amd and intel thing, cause my intel rig can shoot up 80-90c almost instantly when running occt power virus, but my ryzen rig takes a second to get up their

[sweet phoenix]

13600k and 5500 have very different power profiles

6 core vs 14 core

[fresh timber]

would a equal amd cpu do the same thing

[sweet phoenix]

Different cpus behave differently power and heat wise

7000 series pretty much always runs at 75c+ under load

[fresh timber]

i can tell the power profile thing cause mf 5500 takes up like 10mins to start throttling with out fans on the aio

i bet no fans on aio and intake in the front it would be fine just from air trying to escape through aio fins

[icy ore]

Squished my finger and busted it open underneath my fingernail that’s gonna feel great in the morning

How am I supposed to game like this

[fresh timber]

7000 hot, is 9000 hot too

[sweet phoenix]

I believe cooler than 7000

[fresh timber]

i got payed nitro for this

[fresh timber]

w

9500f when

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/asrock-fixes-burned-out-am5-motherboard-by-cleaning-the-socket

wtf is going on with asrock

[lone mango]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

is ryzen hard to cool or easy like intel

i know the 7800x3d can be rough cause thermal blanket

[lone mango]

Generally yeah but there is an exception with ryzen

Like when am5 first came out it ran really hot but thats because it pushed itself really hard

Basically cinebench mode

[fresh timber]

pushes it self

i like that

[lone mango]

So then gn tested eco mode and am5 became super efficient

[fresh timber]

does ecomode loose frames per second compared to RAHH performance

iv seen people enjoy it on their sff rigs with tiny coolers

[lone mango]

So out of the box it could get really hot because its nuking its efficiency to be as fast as it can

You get what I mean

[idle nexus]

well I sent a 1tb Sabrent Rocket 4.0 & a 1tb TeamGroup MP33 for RMA on the same day, 03/18. Today I got the replacement Sabrent but the TeamGroup won't be here until 4/25 apparently. dammit TeamGroup lol

[fresh timber]

lol

@idle nexus u reminded me that unless i wanna reinstall windows AGAIN for this rig i gotta get sata ssds

[idle nexus]

In fairness, Sabrent is apparently located in Florida.

[lone mango]

Its basically nothing

[fresh timber]

lmfao just run eco

[idle nexus]

SATA SSDs can still get borked I think lol

[lone mango]

Eco mode isnt anything crazy its just a power limit

[fresh timber]

atleast i dont have to reinstall windows cause only one nvme slot lol

[lone mango]

But its efficiency really shows with it on

[idle nexus]

what borks M.2s on AM4 (I think all AM4...?) is setting base clock higher

[fresh timber]

o

[idle nexus]

cuz it won't just set the base clock for CPU & memory like you'd want for OCing

[fresh timber]

the d drive is getting donated to my NAS for a boot drive

[idle nexus]

it also does it for like PCIe stuff

[fresh timber]

my nas will have 1.5tb to start so thats good

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/aZXBFirj6b4?si=2vfSr1pk_WVKD4Yi

[frigid stag]

Can pcpartpicker price tracker go further back in time. I’m trying to find how much something cost like 3 or 4 years ago

[sweet phoenix]

The 7800x3d is fine with a stock cooler

7000 series and 9000 series are very easy to cool

They just run warm

A 9950x is fine with a $30 dual tower

[frigid stag]

250 to 300w would probably thermal throttle on that

[idle nexus]

dunno why mine gets this spicy even tho it's heckin delidded & in a custom loop

[fresh timber]

damn

you remind me how overkill i go with cooling

all my rigs have aios on them kek

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9955hx3d-leads-single-threaded-benchmarks-in-first-performance-tests

[fresh timber]

if i can ima upgrade my nas with a beefy tower cooler

[frigid stag]

Run prime 95 and you’ll see how it’s not enough

[fresh timber]

my intel rig stays suprisling cool

[rancid juniper]

prime95 imo is a power virus

[idle nexus]

the strangest part of this CPU is it's super cool in ycruncher running avx512

[frigid stag]

250w hits like almost 100c on a 360 aio

[fresh timber]

doesnt am5 have avx512 built in

so its efficent

[idle nexus]

OCCT Power is the mega power virus

[fresh timber]

lol

[rancid juniper]

Put prime95 on Small or smallest FFTs and it becomes a volcano

[idle nexus]

this really shouldn't be this hot wth

guess it's time to redo LM again

[fresh timber]

prime 95

70c lmfao

i got hella oc room with my cooler

[frigid stag]

It’s only like 70w

[rancid juniper]

prime95 settings?

[fresh timber]

i clicked the um

[lone mango]

Its actually way better than I thought

[fresh timber]

this one

[worthy meteor]

use smallffts

[rancid juniper]

power hog options fr

[fresh timber]

max power and heat

[worthy meteor]

blend on p95 kinda doesn't do anything

dunno why it's the default

[fresh timber]

so in gpu heavy loads nothing

72c

[lone mango]

Well even when high cpu load for gaming nothing

See siege

[fresh timber]

this is my coldest cpu i own besides my 2300x

[rancid juniper]

glad that its not throttling

[fresh timber]

i can run the 2300x max settings with out fans on the aio

i like putting overkill coolers on my cpus

[lone mango]

csgo too

[idle nexus]

53x? increasee

[fresh timber]

if theirs one thing ill always do is buy a cpu cooler above my needs so i dont have to upgrade later on

[rancid juniper]

guess to make it seem like the pc is stable/not overheat for first timers

idk

[fresh timber]

should i overclock or undervolt mhh

4.5ghz perhaps

[rancid juniper]

can do both and still achieve lower power/temps

[lone mango]

do curve optimizer and oc

[fresh timber]

one thing i like about ryzen is that taskmanager reports clock speed correctly

[lone mango]

I did co and +200 and draw more or less the same power

[rancid juniper]

if bro picked smallest FFT he would hit thermal throttling first

[fresh timber]

small fft is easy to run

[idle nexus]

ig I'll check smallest

[lone mango]

I think full load is a little more but its not a lot more like as if I did it without co

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-on-smoke-cpu-blasts-potato-pc-gif-24592403

[fresh timber]

i dont think my motherboard support ryzen master lmfao

[lone mango]

Ok hold on

[fresh timber]

OMG

I

I GOT IT

[lone mango]

Check that chart again

[fresh timber]

all it took was a windows reinstlal

[lone mango]

What the hell is that

[rancid juniper]

AMD FX

[fresh timber]

i love ryzen

[rancid juniper]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fresh timber]

i wish i went 7700x over 13600kf :p

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

after all these years it still holds on its relevance

[lone mango]

I think really he just kept it there as a point of reference

[fresh timber]

what this

[lone mango]

Shows how far amd has come

[lone mango]

Curve optimizer

Click minus and see if crashes

[fresh timber]

so ovreclocking i should do in bios

[idle nexus]

LOL no wonder AVX512 runs so cool 4.4/4.6ghz? weakkk I miss Intel

[lone mango]

Well

If you want

Ryzen master will override your bios profile

[fresh timber]

it changes in bios?

[idle nexus]

Ryzen Master sucks

[lone mango]

So its not necessary if you have it open

[fresh timber]

if it changed the bios for you peak

lmfao

[lone mango]

Yeah Im on linux and still hit 4.6

[fresh timber]

it has apu clock speeds

[lone mango]

Compared to 4.4

[fresh timber]

sir my apu is disabled

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

i bet ryzen master was programed to treat this cpu as a 5600g, and they just changed the name

[lone mango]

Nah 5600g is a different chip

It is monolithic

[fresh timber]

5600g and 5500 are the exact same thing sir

86%

i got more tdp left

welp time to oc to use all 88w

[idle nexus]

can't 5500 do static OC?

[fresh timber]

idk

i heard static oc for ryzen isnt healthy

[idle nexus]

meh let PBO figure it out lol

[fresh timber]

ill do a advanced pbo and add more mhz

lmfao

this is the typa stuff that braks ur pc

[lone mango]

Oh wow yeah

Not sure what I was thinking of then

[idle nexus]

try to get core offset magnitude as negative as possible. Start will all core then do per core once you find a wall

[fresh timber]

Soo I did this wrong

[lone mango]

When pbo on it goes to 1000

Click on curve optimizer on the top left

[fresh timber]

I don’t know what I’m doing

I’m used to Intel setting clock speed and voltage and done

😭😭😭

[lone mango]

So that is setting the co value for each core

Some cores can go lower than others

I just did all core I dont care that much

Per core is splitting hairs

[fresh timber]

If it boots higher clock speed I’m happy

[lone mango]

But see with ryzen master you dont have to keep rebooting

[gray kelp]

Lmao what is this brand pls?

[random osprey]

looks like skytech

[fresh timber]

G skill

[gray kelp]

Lmao dang, I wanted to find it on my part picker

[fresh timber]

i dont htink my clock speed worked

idfk what im doing here

[lone mango]

Just click curve optimizer on the left

[fresh timber]

lets see how this software is

\what im touching

[lone mango]

Ok click minus on that gfx co value

Acutally click auto oc and do that

Since you want to oc

[fresh timber]

Bet

[fresh timber]

what should i do with curve optmiser

[lone mango]

Try like -10

[fresh timber]

on what

waitr

im so confused

its doing it for me?

[limber crane]

damn, the reviews were right, best buy ships motherboards in a paper envelope

[lone mango]

Oh you did the auto function

[fresh timber]

i turned it off

auto sucks

[lone mango]

Ok my desktop soft crashed

Ok it did it again

[fresh timber]

my headset wont turn on

[lone mango]

So what I was trying to say was that I meant the auto oc tab

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[lone mango]

Oh yeah

[fresh timber]

what should is et curve optmiser to

i figured out how u use it

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

i broke it

[acoustic palm]

Ow

Playing tennis hurts goddamn

[fresh timber]

stop playing tennis nerd

play basketbal

[acoustic palm]

No

[fresh timber]

why

whats wrong with ball

[acoustic palm]

Also playing any sport hurts

[fresh timber]

hypixel skyblock

ply that

[acoustic palm]

Boring

[fresh timber]

blasphmy

[acoustic palm]

I don’t wanna get 10m eman exp and anything but eman sucks

[fresh timber]

idk what i did but im hitting higher wattages

and clocks

-10 on curvey boy

[acoustic palm]

Gg

[fresh timber]

idk what els to do

i broken ryzen master so i cant add more clock

[gray kelp]

So I have some basic SSD, is there a specific one that is "really good" for gaming?

[acoustic palm]

Uh

I mean as long as it’s not super slow

[fresh timber]

@acoustic palm how overclock ryzen

[acoustic palm]

Brrrrrrr

[sweet phoenix]

...why are you using ryzen master

Do it in bios. Ryzen master sucks ass

[fresh timber]

im ngl, im just exploring

i do like how it displays performance metrics

Off to bios with what I learned

[gray kelp]

at what range does slow/fast starts at pls? lol

[fresh timber]

Depends on which technology is in use

[sweet phoenix]

Ssd speed is mostly irrelevant for gaming

Just crappy ones like the kingston nv2 and crucial p1 suck

C910, mp44l, g50 are all relatively cheap and good quality

[frigid stag]

They sound like dramless garbage

[idle nexus]

MP33 takes forever to RMA

that's all I have to contribute lol

[fresh timber]

real

[sweet phoenix]

G50 has dram. Dram does not matter for gaming

[frigid stag]

T500 is much better and not much more expensive

[fresh timber]

im using dramless garbage in this build it sucks for more than booting and gaming

[frigid stag]

In that it doesn’t increase your fps yes

[fresh timber]

littrely how tf is a steam download bottlenecked by my ssd

😢

[sweet phoenix]

In that it doesn't affect loading times as well, yes

[fresh timber]

im blessed by my skhynix never having that issue

[fresh timber]

it can

[sweet phoenix]

I notice 0 difference between my sata ssd and my p41 plus

[fresh timber]

gen 5 vs gen 4, watch the gen 5 load faster

[fresh timber]

mesure it, the diffrence exist

[frigid stag]

Can notice the difference when multitasking. Installing game and windows running in the background, other processes etc

Dramless goes to a halt

[fresh timber]

i notice it when downloading large files, i havent really had problems with running multiply vms and hosting servres

i might notice it if i use this ssd in a nas

[sweet phoenix]

My sata ssd downloads at around 350mb/s

[fresh timber]

damn

[sweet phoenix]

And I can still do anything else that I want to

[fresh timber]

somoe how my sata can sustain 700mbps more consistantly than my damn nvme..

[acoustic palm]

Mp44l is 1$ less than 44q

It’s funny

[frigid stag]

Most things are random and not sequential. That’s partly why faster bandwidthdoesn’t mean better always if it doesn’t have dram

Mp34 has dram. Idk why mp44 doesn’t

The L in the name makes sense x.d

[fresh timber]

dont u need dram in sata drives

[frigid stag]

Mp34 is nvme

[fresh timber]

yeah but in sata drives dont u need it

[frigid stag]

For sata ye it’s even more important

[fresh timber]

i needa get a sata drive one of these days for this system i may or may not have put a 512gb nvme in it, and may or may not dont feel like reinstalling windows again

[frigid stag]

Before and after

On sata ssd

[fresh timber]

speed

im fine with 500/500 ssd speeds, i dont notice the diffrence unless transfering files between nvmes

its a MASSIVE difrfence when you transfer from nvme to nvme

[lone mango]

Try like -10

[frigid stag]

I kinda do but I can’t run nvmes on this board so i don’t have much choice

[fresh timber]

sata to nvme is fast, but hdd to nvme is sooo slowwww

[lone mango]

And keep going down

[fresh timber]

bet, going to bios funna play

[frigid stag]

It’s either nvme or sata on it and I already have too many sata ports used

It disables the m.2 slots or something

[frigid stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3CYj37bxDE

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

It won’t let me go past 200mhz

😦

[lone mango]

Same for me

But earlier you were showed +400

But yeah after you rin a test do -15

I might start tinkering again

A long time ago I let ryzen master do the auto curve so it set it at -15

[dense locust]

Don’t some pcs beat the m4 now?

[lone mango]

Might rty 20 or something

[dense locust]

Only wins in efficiency

[fresh timber]

Yeah I can’t do more

[dense locust]

Siri

[lone mango]

Its not a lot but its not much effort really

And you might use the same power if not less

[fresh timber]

S

[lone mango]

Not sure if that will override your co offset though

Try it and see

[fresh timber]

@lone mango I remember in the AMD discord the entire vc did prime 95 and 80% of us crashed

[lone mango]

Brutal

[fresh timber]

I instantly crashed the second I pressed yes on prime 95 lmfao

[lone mango]

With what settings

-10 +200?

[fresh timber]

All this lmfao, Idfk what I’m doing

I have a shortcut to bios thanks to ggood

[lone mango]

Looks good ti me

[worn wave]

Both power and cost efficiency, yes

[fresh timber]

Yeah no 4.4ghz

[lone mango]

Is 4.4 with the +200 override

[fresh timber]

yes

i can do +200 no problem

doing it rn

oo

is it trying to do 4.6ghz...

[lone mango]

I don’t understand

You said 4.4 dont work but you said thats +200

I guess you increased co offset?

[fresh timber]

man

idfidk what im doing

umm

its stuck at 3.6ghzz now

[gray kelp]

this one or the other one pls?

[idle nexus]

Annoying I can't find the XMP https://sellout.woot.com/offers/g-skill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-series-amd-expo-32gb-2-x-16gb-288-pin-pc-ram-ddr5-6z

[fresh timber]

ugh

im debating 9070xt/5070ti or new phone now, dad said he would take me to get stuff

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rjkWGX/adata-premium-for-ps5-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-apsfg-2t-csus

[fresh timber]

for PS5

ps5 ready

ps5 ready = fast

[sweet phoenix]

Same thing as the t500

[fresh timber]

wanna know whats funny, ps5 only cares if the ssd is gen 4 even if it has gen 3 speeds

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah lol

Its stupid

[hard flint]

Hello everyone,
I have a question. Can you but pcie 5 card on am4 pcie 4 slot ?

[fresh timber]

yse

[sweet phoenix]

Yes, itll just run at pcie 4

Which is fine

[fresh timber]

i run a gen 4 gpu in a gen 5 slot, and i run a gen 4 gpu in a gen 3 slot

[sweet phoenix]

That said, what gpu is it, and what cpu do you have?

[gray kelp]

How do you feel about 4 tb ssds?

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XX88TW/western-digital-wd-blue-sn5000-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds400t4b0e

[hard flint]

Have am4 motherboard just checking if i can but pcie 5 card

[sweet phoenix]

What cpu do you have and what gpu do you want to use

[idle nexus]

Heck I want this kinda... Not really https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-mag-z790-tomahawk-max-wifi-1

[sweet phoenix]

Meh

[gray kelp]

do you think I should just stick to 2gb? The first one you sent is up to 7400mbs and the other one is like 5500

[hard flint]

5800x3d im thinking of 5070

[sweet phoenix]

It won't make a difference unless you're video editing

[sweet phoenix]

Thats a decent pairing

Id rather a used 6900xt personally though

[misty sparrow]

which one are you using

[fresh timber]

A random oem, I know it’s Hynix, I gotta check my DMs with Woohooz

[gray kelp]

sweet, im buying the 4tb one, tysm!

[hard flint]

My friend had pad experience with amd gpu if i couldn’t find a good price on the 5070 might go for 4080

[sweet phoenix]

When did he have said bad experience

[fresh timber]

if its nv2

lmfao

[sweet phoenix]

Also countless people have issues with nvidia gpus. My 3060 ti recently died

572.xx drivers have been killing gpus on nvidia cards

If you can find a used 4080 under $1000 that'd be a good choice

[misty sparrow]

you didn't use crystaldiskmark to check the model name? my ssd had a model name so i got it from there, put it in google to verify the model

micron 3400 1TB

[fresh timber]

i just checed

i have this

theirs an identical 2230 verson too lol

[hard flint]

Thanks pro

[fresh timber]

BC711

[sweet phoenix]

5070 ti around $800 is also a good choice

[fresh timber]

im hoping to get a 5070ti or 9070xt when dad takes me to microcenter :p if i cant find any im legit going to get the fastest card i can find in my price their

hopefully mom lets me spend all my money i get lmfao

[sweet phoenix]

Ill take your 7700xt off your hands :c

[fresh timber]

istg if she says i cant spend all that money ima suffer with 7700xt longer

OOOOOOO i found a loophole

i cant get a job or social security will charge me back

[misty sparrow]

leave your gf to afford 9070xt

[fresh timber]

easyyy

[sweet phoenix]

Can just resell the 7700xt for $300-350ish and make back half your money

[misty sparrow]

okay that works too

[fresh timber]

7700xt goes into 2nd rig i want to turn into a am5 rig

[sweet phoenix]

or send it to a charitable cause, like my pc

[fresh timber]

what do i like more, laptop or fps

ugh i wanna get new phone too flip nvm no gpu chat

maybe gpu, depends on how much i can spend

im ngl idk if +200 did anything

erm still stock

[misty sparrow]

sorry but i'm gonna eat it first

[fresh timber]

@sweet phoenix why do u want a 7700xt

nvidia is clearly better

[misty sparrow]

-# if i had the opportunity to get a free GPU i'd take it

[fresh timber]

Pbo should do +200mhz

Why is it not doing +200

[gray kelp]

does it matter somethihng (SSD) is GEN 3 or 4 or 5 or do I just look at size of the ssd and speed

[sweet phoenix]

My 2080 ti runs hot and I can't oc it much bc of the cooler it has

[sweet phoenix]

Gen 5 does not have real world use cases aside from very high res video editing

[fresh timber]

Water block

Oo buy new cooler

[sweet phoenix]

Meh

I'm not that comfortable taking the shroud off

[fresh timber]

Why 😦 it’s easy

[sweet phoenix]

I have very unsteady hands

[fresh nova]

Oh boy the waitress is flirting

[fresh timber]

Ask somebody with steady hands

[sweet phoenix]

No one in my house knows computers

[fresh timber]

and look at doctor strange, his hand are all over and he still does it

[sweet phoenix]

And i have no real life techie friends

[fresh timber]

ill be over

give me a few hours

[sweet phoenix]

Cool it'll be what, 16 hours?

Reasonable

[fresh timber]

which state ru in

[sweet phoenix]

Ct

[fresh timber]

ct

google tiem

you dont exist

[sweet phoenix]

Connecticut

[fresh timber]

doesnt exist

sorry

also its 13 hours from chicago

mhh

[sweet phoenix]

Lol

[fresh nova]

Ooo flight

[sweet phoenix]

I highly doubt anyone would take that 1:1 trade lmao

If i get that job I interviewed for ill be rebuilding my pc at some point

[fresh timber]

I can’t figure out how to oc

I keep crashing

I miss Intel

[sweet phoenix]

I could but id be on a 1650 as my temp gpu and that sounds like pain

[sweet phoenix]

If i don't, time to apply to another grocery store ig

Maybe cvs or some crap

It was a job in IT, i thought it was set in stone i had the job alr

But the dude who got me the interview did not give me the full picture

If i don't have the job, which i should know by Friday, ill be applying to anywhere and everywhere

[dusk knot]

Hm

[sweet phoenix]

Tired of grocery store jobs though

[fresh timber]

I can’t get 4.4 GHz to run

With

Just instant turn Off

[sweet phoenix]

Worked at shoprite for a year and a half, best buy for two months, and stop and shop for a year

Customer service/front end supervisor

[fresh timber]

Idk how

[sweet phoenix]

Under 1.4v

I think 1.35v

[fresh timber]

Can a positive curve optimizer good

[sweet phoenix]

Ggood would know

Ot felix

[fresh timber]

@mortal grail wake up

I’m overclocking

I did an offset of 0.1 legs see

Gotta use this warranty

Yes officer it ran stock

Ooo

OOO

NO INSTANT CRASH

90c

okay.. ima need to increase the fancurve

120w lmfao

[dense locust]

Worth?

[fresh timber]

mhh

welp

i need less voltage

[sweet phoenix]

Not really

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XX88TW/western-digital-wd-blue-sn5000-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds400t4b0e

[fresh timber]

I should honestly get a bunch of 4tb nvmes but the price stacks up

[sweet phoenix]

Pcie lanes

Whenever I rebuild I'm consolidating my storage

[fresh timber]

My z790 is fine with 3/4 slots, not sure about 4/4

[sweet phoenix]

My p41 plus 2tb will stay as my boot and I want a secondary 4tb

[lone mango]

Is that a sn580 but for pcie 5

[fresh timber]

I’m considering making 512gb my boot and 1tb game drive but I’m lazy

[lone mango]

Oh thats 4 nvm

[fresh timber]

ima keep dropping until prime 95 doesnt work

lmfao

and temps drop

i should prob make my curve optmsiser not negative

my aio strugglin :/

i should retighten it

[lone mango]

Oh the 4tb sn5000 has qlc

[fresh timber]

OOOO IM BARLEY HITTIN 90c now

Little less volts common

[silver sparrow]

Desk gaming time

[fresh timber]

Rip neck

[lone mango]

Did brotha double his power draw

[fresh timber]

I want more GHz

All it took was setting offer to 0.05 I’m reducing it tho

[lone mango]

1.4 is a lot

[fresh timber]

Oo hell no that’s too much

I’m reducing

[fresh timber]

It’s 1.382 rn

lol too high

Is am4 good when static voltage

I know Intel isn’t

ok good

dumping way less

i need a better fancurve i thik

[acoustic palm]

My Mac has a 9980h

[fresh timber]

I beat you haha

[acoustic palm]

Ok

It also has 64gb of ram and 4tb of storage

[fresh timber]

I don’t beat you mojo

[acoustic palm]

Gg

[heavy dew]

@north crescent you’re smart so I need you to fact check this video https://youtu.be/F3CYj37bxDE?si=eTpiHaFfdzmlo_MF

Because on paper this all makes sense but I need some facts to be checked fr fr

[fresh timber]

dont make me get 64gb in my main rig

[acoustic palm]

No

[fresh timber]

deadass if i dont get gpu im shooting for 128gb ram lmfao

[acoustic palm]

Get 96

[tranquil pebble]

I do not trust this ngl

[acoustic palm]

Since funny

[fresh timber]

nah im doing 128

four 32gb ram sticks 👅

[frigid stag]

Just ball out and get 256 🗿

[acoustic palm]

Ew

[acoustic palm]

Lf 1tb

[frigid stag]

🕴️

[leaden pewter]

Why buy when you can just download it? Remember?

[heavy dew]

Oh did you watch it already?? That was fast

Which part do you not trust

[acoustic palm]

Is lsfg legit

Btw

[leaden pewter]

Apple has finicky software with hardware not of their sponsors

[frigid stag]

Ironically you can

[cursive oasis]

Is this enough airflow

[fresh timber]

this cpu uses too much ram to begine with

holy

[fresh timber]

man if i could afford it realsiticly i would lmfao

[frigid stag]

Lol

[leaden pewter]

I would if I could and copy the Vegas sphere with 150 ada rtx 6000 so I could render 8k animations faster or even push 16k

[fresh timber]

How hard would it be to run four sticks at 4000

[frigid stag]

Probably very

Well depends how much ram

For 32 4 sticks shouldn’t be too bad

[fresh timber]

I’m pretty sure I couldn’t higher clock speed

Uv more and more and no crash

Maybe 4.5

My temps notice the diffrence lmfao

[frigid stag]

Need ram fan

[fresh timber]

lmfao

id deadass get a ram fan for this system

i want it to be crazy

HOLY -0.375 works

[frigid stag]

Nice

[fresh timber]

Or was it 0.0375

I forgot

I’m taking it slow

[frigid stag]

But yuh just need some zip ties and the ram fan mounts there

[fresh timber]

But I lowered my wattage

So I’m happy

Same clock less power

Ima try higher clock

deadass

ima try higher

[leaden pewter]

I wanna undervolt my 12700k because I’m not utilizing 100% anymore and will be porting to unreal for animations and physics work

I don’t know what the safe route is in term of voltage to get lower wattage and better temps

[fresh timber]

Just uv until you crash lmfao

[leaden pewter]

Hell I dropped my PL on my 3080 to 65%=240W max and get sub 60C on load with 4% perf hit

I wanna make my cpu pretty much match

[frigid stag]

Must’ve been a bad cooler

[waxen saddle]

Can someone help: #old-monitors-and-tv message

[topaz crown]

Hello @waxen saddle! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[frigid stag]

Or bad thermal pads

Should be like 60 to 70 at full load on normal power limits

[fresh timber]

Max offset i can do is 0.0375

Or 0.5

Idk if theirs a between

god damn

-0.05

it doesnt like more

trying to run 4.5 afte this

i got some thermal headroom

[heavy dew]

Well I watched the video and all of the parts that are used on the SSD are pretty much 1 to 1 with what Apple uses, including a component that Apple uses but not on the SSD

[leaden pewter]

Older 3080 that’s been through a lot of abuse and several day/night renders

[fresh timber]

cor e4 and 9 are not happy

[frigid stag]

Just needs a repaste probably

And it’ll be brand new basically

[fresh timber]

I need to give those two cores more power

Unstable cores

[tranquil pebble]

and maybe replace the fans, at most

assuming the thing has not been overvolted

[fresh timber]

im about to say its stable and the second i press enter ima ge errors

called it

[storm umbra]

is vertical gpu mounting a bad idea, my case supports it

[tranquil pebble]

no its not a bad idea as long as it fits

[acoustic palm]

Iirc it does have some minor impacts on thermals

[fresh timber]

IT TOOK 3 MINS FOR THIS TO HAPPEN

UGH

[pseudo raven]

my asus warranty is only valid till jan 26 for some reasosn

this card was definitely supposed to come out then i guess

[lone mango]

Yeah shouldnt go above 1.35 imo

Mine is at 1.3, never goes above

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

im finding the sweat spot

i might need more volt boys

[fresh timber]

ok i got a question, in the test it was using 1.27 v but in just vibing its doing 1.3-1.31 v

is that PBO?