general-chat

[fresh timber]

Intel on AMD

Ram is RAM

[young pulsar]

I mean it’s alright

[craggy shoal]

Yeah hotter than the sun is perfectly normal

[young pulsar]

It’s better than my 100 degree 4600g

[mortal grail]

Might need a repaste, that hotspot delta is out by a whole 73 million degrees

[craggy shoal]

bruh take the sticker off of your cooler. No way that 4600G is reaching 100C

[dusk knot]

that would kill everyone on earth

disintegrate the earth too

[rancid juniper]

That's true but also, it might be Intel as someone claimed

[craggy shoal]

Thanks for the free thermal energy bro. Now we have unlimited energy for the next few generations

I'M PURPLE

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[fresh timber]

this aint.. right

[young pulsar]

I think I did very good with my budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/67ndgn

[craggy shoal]

GUYS I'M PURPLE

[dense locust]

That’s a question for xkcd

[young pulsar]

Once the final stuff comes I will build on the weekend

[mortal grail]

About time

[craggy shoal]

finally

[mortal grail]

You've been blue for like 10 years

[craggy shoal]

anyways

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-clap-ez-gif-18600209

[fresh timber]

i, am speed

[rancid juniper]

Steve*

[dense locust]

What’s wrong?

[young pulsar]

Enable XMP

[fresh timber]

Oh yeah

Okay I’m about tot throw this motherboard

2133 isn’t 3200, brb

I love the delete key

[craggy shoal]

1600 is 3200 if you have two

[young pulsar]

Can you review my list

[craggy shoal]

sure

[wicked oriole]

.... will a corsair rm850e be able to handle a 4090?

[mortal grail]

It's also how task manager views xmp sometimes

[mortal grail]

Sure if the cpu isn't power hungry af

Or you have like 30 billion pc extras

[wicked oriole]

7800x3d 🤔

[rigid sinew]

@proud jackal it worked - im sick

[mortal grail]

Yeah it can do it

[wicked oriole]

3 case fans and aio cooler

[young pulsar]

Build me a rig

[fresh timber]

THATS 800

[young pulsar]

[mortal grail]

Maybe avoid oc'ing the gpu tho

[fresh timber]

okay

um

i got 3200 to run

[rigid sinew]

no u build me a rig

[rancid juniper]

I Want free PC NOW

[fresh timber]

now my aio pump isnt running 100% so it keeps going fast slow fast slow making sounds

[wicked oriole]

Figured, interesting thanks i thought I had one that wouldn't work lol

[young pulsar]

🖥️ 📦 Close enough enjoy your 9800x3d + 5090

[mortal grail]

That's not what those look like

It's more like

[rigid sinew]

thanks ill see if it boots

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/sqMU1WMDcgD.gif

[mortal grail]

🔥

That's more like it

Wait the 9800x3d explodes too

[fresh timber]

1600mt/s is 800mhz

[young pulsar]

🔥

[mortal grail]

💥 🔥

Ok now we're talking

2025 peak performance

[fresh timber]

hey

you

32gb wam

WAM

i love wam

[young pulsar]

Blud that isn’t a flex 😭

[fresh timber]

dont make me pull up my other rig runnin 4000mt/s

[young pulsar]

.

[young pulsar]

Let’s see that ssd

[fresh timber]

nahh

[honest birch]

4000Mbps

[fresh timber]

i can finally use this pc

i just need a x3d cpu and its useable

[honest birch]

Send it

[young pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/67ndgn

It’s probably mid but I looked at benchmarks online

Respectable

[sweet phoenix]

Do you own any of that yet

[young pulsar]

I own

Everything

[sweet phoenix]

7600xt should never be more than $310

[young pulsar]

Well

Gpu and case

Coming in 1 week

[sweet phoenix]

12700kf needs a stronger cooler

Please cancel the gpu order, that's horribly overpriced

[honest birch]

Budget?

I always end up fully remaking parts list

[young pulsar]

The gpu was 419.99

[honest birch]

I rarely see good ones

[sweet phoenix]

Horribly overpriced

[honest birch]

💀

[sweet phoenix]

He bought everything already

[honest birch]

Bruh

Then why ask

[fresh timber]

woohooz wanan know whats funny

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah

[honest birch]

Mid build

Next

[fresh timber]

the 5500 is a bottleneck even at 4k LMFAO

[young pulsar]

It’s to see if I picked everything out correctly

[dense locust]

That says MHz not mt/s

[honest birch]

U didn't lol...

[fresh timber]

and?

[proud jackal]

i didnt even send anything yet

[sweet phoenix]

Flip that

[honest birch]

For 1k you could've gotten a 9600X, 6800 XT easily

[fresh timber]

if you flip it its the same

[dense locust]

Wait Does Microsoft use the wrong term?

[fresh timber]

yes

[dense locust]

Wouldn’t put it past them

They use the wrong storage name

[fresh timber]

my main rig shows MT but this rig shows MHZ idk why

[rigid sinew]

Doesn’t matter it worked

[dense locust]

Gib would be way better than gb anyways

[young pulsar]

Bruh

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah you vastly overpaid

[fresh timber]

aye

he did better than me

lmfao

[young pulsar]

I went with the cpu because of the cores

Anyways I was just looking for an upgrade from a single 4600g

[fresh timber]

theirs 8 core cpus that beat you btw

[young pulsar]

8 gbs of ram

Dusty inside

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bpprWc

[fresh timber]

my 14 core beats you

[sweet phoenix]

Core count is irrelevant for a gaming pc

[fresh timber]

that 7600 probably beats you

[dense locust]

7600

[opaque sedge]

Five hundies for a 7600xt is crazy

[dense locust]

That’s way worse than a 12700kf

[opaque sedge]

Wait read up more

[sweet phoenix]

7600xt is also an embarrassment of a gpu

[sweet phoenix]

Lol

[opaque sedge]

4 hundies is still crazy

[dense locust]

besides the power

[sweet phoenix]

Its a tiny bit worse in games, but he's gpu limited anyways, and am5 gives you upgradability

7600 is also much easier to cool

[dense locust]

Wait they don’t want it for productivity?

[fresh timber]

7600xt sucks

[dense locust]

[young pulsar]

I want it for gaming

All I wanted was more frames

[fresh timber]

well sir

[sweet phoenix]

7600xt is an embarrassment

[dense locust]

Yeah go amd then

[fresh timber]

return everything for more frames

[opaque sedge]

Per dolla

[honest birch]

Even 6700 xt is better

[young pulsar]

You guys realize 44 fps on ultra Alan wake 2 with the 7600 XT is an impressive improvement

[sweet phoenix]

Most of the pc is fine, the 12700k isn't too bad of a choice. It's not the best value, but its fine

[opaque sedge]

More frames per dolla

[sweet phoenix]

The big issue is the gpu

[young pulsar]

When I tried that on 4600g

[honest birch]

BRUH

[young pulsar]

It just crashes

[sweet phoenix]

Ok? It should still be $300

[fresh timber]

congratualtions

u figured out what generatioanl improvments are!

[sweet phoenix]

You vastly overpaid

[dense locust]

7600x3d

[opaque sedge]

Bro is immune to fomo

[sweet phoenix]

A $150 1080 ti outperforms the 7600xt in some games

[dense locust]

Did they already buy the intel pc?

[fresh timber]

unforutly

[sweet phoenix]

This $300 3070 destroys the 7600xt
https://www.ebay.com/itm/127007209571?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[fresh timber]

theirs very limted sitautions where i would even consider a intel rig, one being you already have cpu/motherboard

[honest birch]

8gb sucks

[opaque sedge]

Wish i could be like that… i only got my steam deck a couple months ago and now… i did not expect them to shove in a z1e for the steam os version

[honest birch]

Just look at 6700 xt

[sweet phoenix]

I don't disagree 6700xt or 2080 ti is a better choice

Was just a link i had on hand

[honest birch]

Ok

[fresh timber]

i had steamos before it was offical

\

\

[dense locust]

The 5090 destroys the 7600xt

[opaque sedge]

This always happens to me i get a new electronic device and within a short period of time a possibly better alternative comes out immediately

[fresh timber]

;i returened mines

not worth

use pc

lazy bones

[dense locust]

That’s a joke for the user who ?

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156829614226?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=lxlk5-f2r0-&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

$200 6700xt, although it's from China

Seller has some good reviews

[young pulsar]

I was gonna get a 3070 ti

But the wattage scared me

[dense locust]

“It’s not the color I want”

[young pulsar]

589

[honest birch]

Worst value card

[sweet phoenix]

3070 ti is also a bad choice

[honest birch]

Talk about vram being a problem

[fresh timber]

How

[sweet phoenix]

Its a 3070 with hotter vram

[honest birch]

If it wasn't bad on the 3070

[young pulsar]

My PSU is 650 W

[honest birch]

3070 ti even worse

[young pulsar]

The build would’ve been 650

[sweet phoenix]

If you can cancel the 7600xt order

Do

Buy a 6700xt used

[fresh timber]

I used a 650w with a 7700xt

Your fine

[dense locust]

But mah warrentee

[opaque sedge]

It depends on the type of games u play demanding games with great visuals absolutely play better on a pc but there are plenty of other games i have found to enjoy a lot on the steam deck

[dense locust]

||you’re||

[young pulsar]

How will I get my money back

[dense locust]

||unless they were fined ||

[opaque sedge]

Plus there are some high fidelity games that run well on the steam deck too i believe but still you dont get as many options as u do on pc

[fresh timber]

The second hit 30 fps I get off

I had a better expirence game streaming from main rig

[sweet phoenix]

...by canceling the order?

[fresh timber]

@modern wing

@honest birch

not milky
\

[dense locust]

Too bad all the pc ports suck

[fresh timber]

the one game i wanted to play runs like popo

i had to use lossless scaling at poo res to run it

[opaque sedge]

What game was it?

[fresh timber]

the crew motorfest

[honest birch]

Who the freak is milky

[opaque sedge]

Ngl tho i wish elden ring could run at 60fps 1080p on handhelds

[fresh timber]

spend $25 just for it to run like complete pooo

[fresh timber]

lol

[acoustic palm]

Who knows

[fresh timber]

3600 runs

im happy

[opaque sedge]

Dont think even the z1e can do it

[dense locust]

Walks*

[fresh timber]

wanan know what sfunny

the laptop im buying is almost identical to z1e

in terms of gpu

[opaque sedge]

Oh interesting

[opaque sedge]

But it has access to more powaaa

[fresh timber]

Yup

880m

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[fresh timber]

Aka 780m but it’s 3.5

lol its not stable and idc

[opaque sedge]

Ah rdna 3.5 didn’t hear much abt it now that i think abt it

[fresh timber]

Yeah

I wonder how it run 3k res

it has a usb4 port so easy egpu

[young pulsar]

She’s making me learn a lesson of responsibility omg

[mortal grail]

Tf

[elfin mural]

how do you..

clean a socket

with fragile pins??

[mortal grail]

Bath it

Not the weird part

[elfin mural]

oh yeah

[mortal grail]

Weird part is why is this an answer when new boards had the issue

[elfin mural]

you gotta put it into an alcohol bath

[dusk knot]

I wouldn't dare touch the socket without the fear of pending a pin

[elfin mural]

or smth

but damn

just say it's a board issue

weirdge response

[dusk knot]

I think an air blower might work

[fresh timber]

I bath my cpu

[young pulsar]

I went with the CPU cooler because of the complete builde

[frigid stag]

leaf blower better

[dusk knot]

not a leaf blower lmao

[frigid stag]

[dusk knot]

the compact ones for blowing dust out of a PC

[frigid stag]

ah like air compresor

[dusk knot]

yes yes

compressor

[frigid stag]

risk of water but its ok

[dusk knot]

wha

[lone mango]

Brother I am not touching that 🙏

[fresh timber]

The ram looks nice

They are the highest capacity sticks I own

When I go home ima see if I can do 48gb for funny

[proud jackal]

i hate covid

[frigid stag]

that gpu sag

[acoustic palm]

Gg

[acoustic palm]

I got hit hard when I got it

[fresh timber]

Wanna buy me a bracket

[frigid stag]

just use lego

🗿

[fresh timber]

I don’t own Lego

[frigid stag]

oh

[fresh timber]

Wanna know something ironic

[frigid stag]

what

[fresh timber]

I have no intake fans

[frigid stag]

i mean its all open panels

[dusk knot]

Idk how that's possible nowadays. Did you take a vaccine?

[dusk knot]

You need a support bracket

[proud jackal]

its not possible to hate covid?

[fresh timber]

Buy me one

Plz

I don’t have money rn

[opaque sedge]

Support…

[dusk knot]

No I meant, you caught it, but how? Ofc it's reasonable to hate it lol

[fresh timber]

All goin j

All money go to ram

[dusk knot]

Support.

[opaque sedge]

Support my meat onyo chin

[craggy shoal]

man

[proud jackal]

same way you get it every other time, from someone else

[dusk knot]

I need it 😩

Is there rice in that?

[opaque sedge]

I have mastered pan searing

Well not mastered

But somewhat proficient

[opaque sedge]

Rice under the veggies and meat yes

[fresh timber]

I’ll order a sag bracket later

When I put the original gpu back It doesn’t sag

[dusk knot]

You made all of that yourself?

What's the recipe?

[opaque sedge]

My stomach was aching for the next 4 hours trying to digest this but it was totally worth it

[opaque sedge]

Dry brined picanha steak and seasoned rice nothing crazy just season lightly with whatever u have on hand i did turmeric salt and garlic powder, and the veggies are also just lightly sautéed with butta and whatever seasoning u like and the salad is just diced tomatoes onions coriander and dill leaves with pepper salt and lime juice

[lone mango]

Jay made a video about sag where it can come from the io bracket

[fresh timber]

It is my io bracket

It’s missing screws

[lone mango]

You can put a screw on the backside of where it slots in it you see it when you open the back panel

[opaque sedge]

I grew up with special meals having rice a side of vegetables and protein with some form of pickles on the side which i why i prefer smth like this

[dusk knot]

I'm going to try to make that.

[lone mango]

You mean like the ones by the ports right

Those lil ones

[fresh timber]

Yes

[opaque sedge]

Oh right the salad is peak if u add diced cucumbers too and if u dont mind a little spice either jalapeno or thai green chili finely chopped

[fresh timber]

In my main rig I have a sag bracket I use and it fixes it lol

[opaque sedge]

I didn’t have cucumbers on hand thats why i didn’t include em

[opaque sedge]

U could also mix in yogurt for it to be more i forgot middle eastern ig

Or was it Mediterranean

I am not well versed in culinary terms now that i think abt it

[lone mango]

Ah so maybe a screw on the backside wouldn’t fix it because of those missing ones

https://tenor.com/view/what-ever-is-going-on-gif-19764306

[fresh timber]

lol

[craggy shoal]

Imagine

[unreal trail]

I have mastered pan burning

[opaque sedge]

I pity ur smoke alarm

[rancid juniper]

power plant

[unreal trail]

everyone was choking and the smoke alarm didnt go off

maybe we should get new ones

[fresh timber]

i did some overclocking

made it a bit looser, 18 18 18 was being unstable

[misty sparrow]

I love the coast, lighthouses are cool

[fresh timber]

of course dreadzone has the fastest

dreadzone is wegg??? but not here wow

[misty sparrow]

4th place

[fresh timber]

no liline

wegg member not in weg server

[fresh timber]

chiller dry ice and liquid nitrogen is cheating

[fresh nova]

Guess who’s back

[fresh timber]

back again

[craggy shoal]

Is that a sleeper?

[misty sparrow]

I was expecting someone different to be back

[fresh timber]

i have a ancient case i could make a sleeper in

[opaque sedge]

Could be out of batteries too

[fresh nova]

I’m about to sell it tho

[fresh timber]

im ngl chat, the 5080 aint lookin bad

[fresh nova]

I was gonna use a fish tank PC case

[misty sparrow]

can you take a picture of the front part of the case

[fresh nova]

But then I thought about it

All the computers look the dam same with RGB

[fresh timber]

what will sell faster

[fresh nova]

Why not be different & throw my parts in a sleeper

[fresh timber]

now litle timmy doesnt want it

[misty sparrow]

just show Fortnite running and he will want it

[fresh timber]

lmfao

real

[dusk knot]

ello bryce

[fresh timber]

i lowkey should make the most fortnite focused gaming pc ever and sell it

[fresh timber]

5700x3d+4060? lots of fps in literly only fortnite

[fresh nova]

I need to add a DVD drive in that slot

For show

[misty sparrow]

Get wallpaper engine and put a skibidi toilet background on there

[dusk knot]

whats the speaker there for?

[fresh nova]

It’s a BEEP speaker

[craggy shoal]

Yo your grandma looks adorable lowkey

YOUR GRANDMA EVEN BEEPS

[misty sparrow]

This is cool Bryce

[fresh timber]

deadass if my current case wasnt strached id sell this rig

[dusk knot]

ah

[misty sparrow]

does the floppy disk drive actually work though

is it plugged in?

[fresh timber]

is it flloppy

[fresh nova]

All for show

[misty sparrow]

could you theoretically even use it though

[fresh timber]

make it work

😡

[fresh nova]

Theoretically with some adapters

[misty sparrow]

I don’t even know if modern windows supports floppys

[fresh nova]

Y’all have no idea how hard that metal was to dremel out

I even cut the side panel out for airflow

[fresh timber]

put a 5090 in it

[fresh nova]

It looks a bit worse but these old cases have ZERO airflow.

[misty sparrow]

they weren’t expecting a gigantic GPU to be placed inside lmao

Old graphic accelerators were tiny I think

[fresh nova]

Indeed

So yeah let me send a photo of the side panel

Remember it doesn't look at good but it was required to make sure nothing overheats

You can actually screw in fans into those two open fan holes if you wanted. But I have them out because it’s just easier.

When fans are there you have to be careful removing the side panel because of the fan wires.

[fresh timber]

wanna knoww whts ironic

if i get a 5700x3d or 5800x3d for this rig i would use it as my main rig sense its faster

i did digging, 5700x3d can beat 13600kf

[dusk knot]

5800x3d

[fresh timber]

5800x3d can 100% beat me

just stock issue

cant find em

[dusk knot]

🤔

[limber crane]

i love when people ask for advice and then argue with said advice without having any knowledge on the issue

corsair fanboys are weird

[unreal trail]

corsair has fanboys? lol

[fresh timber]

"9070/9070xt has bad stock*

exhbit A

[lucid bay]

Can I have one

[lucid bay]

The small thermalright cooler 😂

[fresh timber]

for that cpu its fine

[elfin mural]

am i on copium for thinking 60-80 fps at 1080p rt with dlss perf mode (dlss 4 override) on maxed out gta v is good enough

i believe so

[fresh timber]

yeah

[elfin mural]

the gpu running it all is 4050

[lone mango]

Lower the settings one step

[elfin mural]

real

[lone mango]

Max is wasting compute

[elfin mural]

i can easily achieve decent perf with dlss on balanced

instead of maxing it out

[limber crane]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-assist-ai-companion-for-rtx-ai-pcs/

Here, install AI and let it configure your PC

from the company who cant fix their drivers

[elfin mural]

ew

[lone mango]

Max rt is basically no different than whatever the setting is below it or whatever

Idk settings name havent played

[fresh timber]

ugh

[elfin mural]

"ive removed your frame limiter"

[fresh timber]

im bored

[elfin mural]

that's the worst thing one can do

to their gaming experience

uncapped fps leads to bad 1% lows

[limber crane]

that should be fun for their warranty department

AI oc's my card

they really are going all-in

AMD needs to bridge the gap asap

[fresh timber]

i put the ram in this system and its fire

i just need cpu and im chilling

[fresh nova]

You know what else is fire

[fresh timber]

5700x3d abd b580?? would that be fire

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-a-dollar-dollar-aleo-blacc-dollar-thats-what-i-need-hey-hey-well-i-need-a-dollar-dollar-i-need-a-dollar-meme-gif-6774067172214539727

[craggy shoal]

commercial music

[lone mango]

Crazy its still going on

[limber crane]

that AI tool is only going to make gamers more dumb about their hardware too

they wont research anything and just ask it

[lone mango]

Keep the normies normies

Look at this geforce rtx killer pc dude

Sells for 1200 and it has a 3060

Dude nvidia geforce man

[limber crane]

this may be the last generation i support nvidia lmao

[lone mango]

Geforce

Rtx ray tracing

[elfin mural]

debating rolling back my drivers

but imma miss dlss override

[lone mango]

You will be ok I think

[rancid juniper]

hmmm two mystery games coming soon

hope its something good

[safe cape]

GTA 6,HL3

[rancid juniper]

[fresh timber]

whats with 5700x3d prices

they are 🤮

[dense locust]

I think you’re behind on the times

[fresh timber]

sad

idk what other cpus would be worth for this socket

[dense locust]

5950x

[fresh timber]

vrms might cook

im comfortable with 105 w tdp cpus

why is amd the only one who doesnt lie about tdp

this aint no lie

[devout forum]

TDP isn't power draw

And everyone has a different method of measuring it

PPT is like
The actual power target which is nice to tell the buyer tho

[misty sparrow]

I got a sausage biscuit but there’s no sausage

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner2049-defeat-sad-disappointed-gif-17817916

[craggy shoal]

The sausage: You look lonely.

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-v-male-jackie-cyberpunk2077-in-a-car-gif-26400735

[fresh timber]

iv had accurant tdp with AMD compared to intel

whats the point of including it if you mesure it diffrently

and says my chip has a 65tdp and tada it uses around 64, my intel has a 125tdp and uses 160w lmfao

[worthy meteor]

AMD keeps pl closer to tdp, but pl still higher in most cases

Intel goes like 105w tdp 180w pl, AMD goes like 105w tdp 140w pl

[honest birch]

180W all core on my 9800X3D

[fresh timber]

u use more than my 13600kf

lmfaooo

and the ysay new amd is efficent

[lone mango]

Bro how

[honest birch]

It's overclocked

[lone mango]

Oh probably oc

[honest birch]

That's why

[lone mango]

Yeah true

[lone mango]

It is

[honest birch]

Stock it uses less

I have static oc so

[fresh timber]

i need a new webcam app that doesnt have this

[honest birch]

It's higher than pbo

[lone mango]

Ah ok

[honest birch]

5.55GHz

All core

1.2V

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

im about to overclock my system

4.5ghz maybe

[honest birch]

Smt still enabled

I could probably push more without smt

[fresh timber]

@honest birch i got 3600 working no prob

good enough for me

[worthy meteor]

My 13600k stock can pull around 200w if I don't manually power limit it lol

[fresh timber]

iv never gotten mines to do that stock

[honest birch]

Well stock

[fresh timber]

it will do 180w

[honest birch]

Unlock PL

See what happens

[worthy meteor]

My Mobo default power limit is like 250w

[fresh timber]

@worthy meteor update ur bios, theirs a new "stock"

new stock has my allcore clock speed drop

[worthy meteor]

Mobo overrides the 181w stock pl that Intel says

[honest birch]

I need a 1dpc atx am5 board, I'm tired of waiting

This is asinine

[worthy meteor]

Just go itx lol

1dpc everywhere

[honest birch]

I have a lancool 3

I don't want itx

[worthy meteor]

Itx still fits

[fresh timber]

i have 1dpc am4 👅

[honest birch]

It can't be that hard to make a 1dpc atx board

[honest birch]

Yeah nah I prefer atx, I have a quadslot card as well

360mm aio

[fresh timber]

what does idpc mean

two dims?

[honest birch]

One dimm per channel

[fresh timber]

i have that

👅

[worthy meteor]

Doesn't matter for the mobo lol

[honest birch]

It's a b450

Doesn't help

[fresh timber]

yeah

one dim per channel

[worthy meteor]

It may not look good but that's how you get 1dpc

[honest birch]

I'll see if i can get a gene then

[fresh timber]

i should install my corsair tommrow and see if it can do 4000 on this board

[worthy meteor]

Not many OC focused 1dpc ATX boards anymore

[fresh timber]

this gskill ram already is tighter than my intel rigs ram lmfao despiste being a worst bin

[honest birch]

Annoying as hell

[frigid stag]

God I need a tachyon board

[honest birch]

I wanted the x870e taichi but like

Bruh

I already have one of the best b650s

[frigid stag]

They’re way too expensive

[frigid stag]

This ones kinda mid

It’s ok

[lone mango]

Yeah I was thinking there were some matx boards

[fresh timber]

LMFAO

[lone mango]

Just like me when I joined

Foxy knows

[honest birch]

Bad vrms, not gonna OC well

[fresh timber]

l

[honest birch]

Gene is the best

[fresh timber]

make a itx build

[lone mango]

Oh thats right

[fresh timber]

frfr

[honest birch]

But expensive

[lone mango]

Forgot oc

[frigid stag]

If I had to switch to am5 I’d get the master

Not like you need more than 6400 1:1 for gaming

[honest birch]

What's the best itx board

[honest birch]

I want to push 8000+ with 6000 cl26 2x24 m-die

[fresh timber]

okay how stupid is this, what i swap my main rig to a 9700x or something, then i buy a matx lga1700 motherboard for the 2nd rig and put my 13600kf in that

[honest birch]

9700X $220 on aliexpress

[fresh timber]

on a scale of 1-10 or stupid do i sound

[devout forum]

@honest birch what cooler do you have on your 9800x3d?

[craggy shoal]

Which end is closer to stupid?

[fresh timber]

10 is stupid

[honest birch]

Deepcool LT720 with icegale argb fans

[craggy shoal]

Maybe like a 6 or 7

[fresh timber]

im getting icegale

[devout forum]

I've been eyeing it for an ITX build where the cooler is like 67mm tall (and yet it can cope with about 200 watts of Intel power draw)

[fresh timber]

yeah

[devout forum]

But IDK if that'd be enough

I'd think so
But I'm not sure

[fresh timber]

ima try getting a 5700x3d if the price fix and wait till after gpu upgrade to checkout cpu

[devout forum]

The alternative would be watercooling it and the GPU, but on a 280×30mm rad it might be a little questionable

[honest birch]

The xtras are even better

[devout forum]

I'm like

Unironically debating a 9800X3D and a 4080 on a 280mm rad

[fresh timber]

'=

[devout forum]

4080 should be passable

A 5090 would be painful (but with PL and UV it might be okay)

[fresh timber]

two 140mm

[honest birch]

Do it with some T30s

[fresh timber]

SELL a TWO PACK

I DONT NEED THREE

[honest birch]

Those are mid

Compared to xtras

[fresh timber]

u know i have those 120mm verson in my main rig and they do just fine

[devout forum]

C14Cs are pretty good iirc

Like Thermalright is just based

[honest birch]

Compare to $19 icegale xtras

Lol

[fresh timber]

i dont run my fans that fast anyways

[devout forum]

19 per?

[worthy meteor]

You get 3 fans compared to 1 fan for the same price lol

[honest birch]

For 2

140mm

[devout forum]

Yeah that's bad price

[honest birch]

169CFM

How is that bad

They're amazing fans

[devout forum]

C14C iirc does more
With less noise

[worthy meteor]

CFM measurements are different between every company

[honest birch]

Dude what?

[fresh timber]

how is this bad

[worthy meteor]

There's no directly comparing them

[devout forum]

Like you gush about the icegales

[honest birch]

They dont

[fresh timber]

everyfan is quiet if you lower the rpm enough

[devout forum]

But Thermalright is just really, REALLY good

[honest birch]

I've tested performance and they live up to it

[fresh timber]

i run my fans at 600-1000rpm typically so they are never loud

[devout forum]

They're considered to be the gold standard everything is compared to for price to perf

As of rn

[honest birch]

A lot of their pumps died, hopefully the fixed that

They

[worthy meteor]

Until there are better reviewer reviews, I'm only going to use the little data we do have, which is thermalright fans perform very well for their price

[honest birch]

I had like 10 people have to rma

Because dead pump

[worthy meteor]

GN still hasn't really started up their fan testing

[fresh timber]

i might go thermalrights for rgb, but i have no rgb controller

aint no cheap usb to argb stuff

$33 ew

[honest birch]

They have ones with both?

[fresh timber]

oh yeah they have non rgb

[honest birch]

Pwm and argb

[fresh timber]

i prob should just get non rgb

[honest birch]

In both

[fresh timber]

yeah

just seems like wasting money on leds u cant use

NOCTUAH

why os noctuah so overprice

[worthy meteor]

You're just paying for rnd and an extra premium

Noctua does not do well for budget or value

[devout forum]

Buying Noctua is an investment

[fresh timber]

https://a.co/d/5WnIVAe t hese look so noice but i aint spening $30 on no fans

honorable mention

damn 2000rpm tho for 140mm is impressive

[devout forum]

Like you can
As long as you still have your original proof of purchase

Just request mounting hardware for 20 year old coolers for no extra cost

[fresh timber]

damn

so noctuah is worth

[devout forum]

But they pricey

[fresh timber]

they have amazing customer service ur paying for

[fresh timber]

but they make up for it soo

is it really pricy

[devout forum]

Oh yes

Their gear cost a pretty penny

[fresh timber]

how does their warranty compare

[devout forum]

S-tier lol

Like 5 years manufacturer warranty on most coolers iirc

[worthy meteor]

Noctua support is cool but at the same time, for the price of a a12x25, you could've replaced it twice with a different fan if anything happened

[devout forum]

I still remember when they had a noise issue on a new cooler

[lone mango]

Dont use the tl b12 on a tower

[fresh timber]

*noise

noctuah noise is a regular noise

[lone mango]

Weird resonance when changing speed around 50%

[devout forum]

And they basically shipped the fix to everyone and offered a money back anyway

Or something like that I'd have to read back on it to remember

[fresh timber]

is it weird that non of my fans go past 1000rpm

or do yall also stay low too

pretty sure my aio fans go around 800rpm

[worthy meteor]

But again, at the same time, you could've bought 2 or 3 different coolers for the same performance at the same price

[lone mango]

If you have the b12 in front of or behind the fin stack it will make a different kind of resonance

[fresh timber]

and what if all three fail or have a small issue, will said company offer your money back and a fix

[lone mango]

Can’t avoid it, even with spacers

Sucks because it looks so good

Even when I had it as a case fan before returning it

[worthy meteor]

Yes, they all still have warranties, thermalright warranty is a year shorter iirc but they all still have warranties

[lone mango]

If you do get it dont go above 45% or so

[fresh timber]

so your also paying for an extra year of warranty

[worthy meteor]

It's a matter of $40 cooler you can buy over and over again even if you can't get it warrantied versus a $150 cooler

[fresh timber]

NOCTUAH VALUE

[lone mango]

Yeah I heard this fan is real good

[fresh timber]

does the cooler also pay for the insane noctuah RND

[worthy meteor]

Noctua rnd still hasn't given us the active noise canceling they promised over 10 years ago smh

They do cool things but don't often follow up

[honest birch]

You won't get anything better than the xtras for this price point

[fresh timber]

you get them looking cooler lmfao

[devout forum]

https://noctua.at/de/nh-d15-g2-statement-20240913
Like this is how they handled a relatively minor rattle of the fins

[honest birch]

I hate noctua

[fresh timber]

any fan is better than the fans on my aio rn

[devout forum]

The problem with them is they have very lofty ambitions sometimes and then get lost on the mundane

[lone mango]

Some fans that aren’t expensive but super quiet are bequiet pure wings 3

They dont have too much static pressure but they are damn quiet

[fresh timber]

i like how thermalright are square too

are iceglades good for aio @honest birch

[devout forum]

I might do the stupid and put iPPC fans on a watercooling rad

[fresh timber]

llol

[devout forum]

I mean

[devout forum]

3000rpm
Stratospheric amounts of static pressure
Lots of flow

[fresh timber]

i wana aterloop give loop money

[devout forum]

It do sound like a jet engine tho

[honest birch]

Yes

[fresh timber]

mhh

worthy

[dusk knot]

Oof

[fresh timber]

https://a.co/d/iFGyCGe

bigger than the orignal case but a nice size

[dusk knot]

Now that's a PC

Where is this from???

[fresh timber]

you replied ofof and that a pc to the same build

[fresh timber]

googloe a3 waterloop

lmao

[devout forum]

@dusk knot 7.63 mm H₂O good for static pressure?
With like 150 cubic meters an hour flow

[fresh timber]

damn this case doesnt come with screws

[devout forum]

IIRC that's like kind of insane

[dusk knot]

Huh?? 😮

[devout forum]

Noctua F12 iPPC stats

[fresh timber]

what 120mm fans should i cop, i need three

more iceglades perhaps

[devout forum]

The A14 is like 2.08 mm H2O

[fresh timber]

idfk why im buying fans for this case im replacing in a few months

[devout forum]

Yes it's as loud as a mfing jet engine
But the cooling potential...

[honest birch]

To use for the next case

[honest birch]

Should be $35 for 3 120s

Of the xtras

[fresh timber]

https://a.co/d/jfuvUOp

this case

i was going a3 oringally but that this case looks like a3 but smaller

smallest matx i can get

[worn night]

B580 is actually so good for 1440p

[frigid stag]

Eh

[honest birch]

It's a good case

[honest birch]

Intel 👎

[fresh timber]

its strong suit

[worn night]

Try not to bias challenge mode impossible

[devout forum]

Aite it'll be a tossup between the Chromax A14s and the P14 Max

[fresh timber]

the b580 has too many issues to think postivly about it currently

[honest birch]

Not bias, I've used the new card

[frigid stag]

Intel ssds are op af

[devout forum]

Depending on the rad

[frigid stag]

Luh optane

[worn night]

with what cpu

[honest birch]

Intel still mid

[fresh timber]

the intel gpu cant even run linux

its mid

[honest birch]

9800X3D, 11700K

[worn night]

Good thing i needed a mid tier gpu

[honest birch]

No meaning bad

[worn night]

Not bad

[honest birch]

Tons of issues

[worn night]

Not really

[honest birch]

Lol ok

[fresh timber]

stop coping

[worn night]

yall cant cope that its not a bad card smh

[honest birch]

Bro got an 13400f instead of a 12600k tells you all u needa know

[worn night]

I bought it years ago

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[frigid stag]

True

[fresh timber]

its not a bad card performance wise

[honest birch]

12600k was always better and cheaper

[worn night]

when i first built i was less educated but this system is great for my needs atm

[fresh timber]

and its unlocked so i can go better

[frigid stag]

I’m surprised people out here still on 6 cores

I am too but I’ve been procrastinating upgrading so

Had it for a while

[worn night]

i have 10

technically

[frigid stag]

Ye 4 e cores

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[frigid stag]

So 6 real cores

[fresh timber]

i have 14 👅

[worn night]

Good thing i'm on windows and have had none of that happen

[honest birch]

Intel has lots of issues still with their gpus, it isn't worth it

[worn night]

[fresh timber]

shall i bring up the windows problems

[frigid stag]

Linux time

[worn night]

sure bro

[honest birch]

Yeah it's not Linux specific

[fresh timber]

not working on every os i want is a big nono for me

[worn night]

not for me

[frigid stag]

Amd might be the way then

[fresh timber]

it is lmfao

i get more issues on windows than linux with my gpu lmfaooo

[worn night]

if their prices werent horrid atm

[frigid stag]

Cuz nvidia on Linux is uh

[fresh timber]

its um buy a amd card and move on

[frigid stag]

ye

[honest birch]

Rx 6000 and up are just flawless and cheap

[fresh timber]

ehh

[lone mango]

Linux works great, only weird thing is that Minecraft will freeze and crash my desktop environment

[fresh timber]

woohooz do u not know about my 6600

[frigid stag]

Ye they’re all expensive

[fresh timber]

and how buggy my 6600 was

[frigid stag]

Well most are

[tranquil pebble]

6900 XT on Linux goes hard

[lone mango]

I would say even rdna 1 is good today

Those cards got fixed a while ago

[frigid stag]

They haven’t

Many of them were hardware level

You can get a good one though I guess, might be a lottery

[honest birch]

They have their problems, rx 6000, not really

I mean you can't fix the architecture

[tranquil pebble]

not for modern games it is not. The lack of mesh shaders is the issue.

[honest birch]

Correct

[fresh timber]

my rx6600 would crash every other second

but recent drivers fixed all issues

[frigid stag]

Since you bought it?

Or recently

[honest birch]

I've used like every rx 6000 card never had any issues

[lone mango]

Brutal 5000 pill

[honest birch]

🤷

[fresh timber]

sense i bought it

[frigid stag]

Dang

That’s ass

[fresh timber]

my rx6600 would crash if i alt tab, crash loading the game, crash afk in the game.. like what

[honest birch]

Why wouldn't you rma

[fresh timber]

but recent drivers no issues

flawless now

[tranquil pebble]

Sometimes when a driver is bad, it is REALLY bad.

[fresh timber]

but it was consistnat bad drivers for like a year 😭

i litterly bought my 7700xt not cause my fps was bad but cause the crashing

[tranquil pebble]

interesting

funny enough the Linux drivers for RDNA 2 seem more stable than the Windows ones

[fresh timber]

OH 100%

linux i didnt have no issues but my games ran on windows

[tranquil pebble]

open source radeon drivers go hard

[honest birch]

Problem is people don't reinstall windows often or ever, and pretty much everyone is clueless about LTSC or stripping/tweaking

7900XTX has been flawless for me on w11

[fresh timber]

im about to install ltsc

[frigid stag]

Nah don’t

[tranquil pebble]

There was once a point where I was reinstalling Windows as often as twice a month

[frigid stag]

Get server

[fresh timber]

i just need to transfer all my games to my 2nd drive real quick

should i reinstall windows now and cope with my dads slow wifi when reinstalling games i coudnt transfer over, orrr do i wait one day until im at my moms house and do it with fast internet

[tranquil pebble]

mostly from updates breaking it severely

[honest birch]

I do it every like 6 months to a year, I don't need to because I keep it clean, but i do anyway

[fresh timber]

same

last install broke it self

[frigid stag]

Mine broke itself from edge

[honest birch]

I completely remove edge

[frigid stag]

I tried

[fresh timber]

i have edge as a backup

sometimes firefox wants to use 100% cpu

[frigid stag]

That’s what led to it breaking completely

[honest birch]

You need to have tools to do so

What'd you use

[frigid stag]

I just changed a value in registry that lets you uninstall

[fresh timber]

and im using my ram now

[frigid stag]

Then tried to uninstall, still didn’t work

[honest birch]

I use a customizable script

Can do all that for mr

Me

[frigid stag]

I restarted it and then it wouldn’t show the password screen

[honest birch]

With settings I selected

[frigid stag]

I might’ve done a few other things. Like disabling edge

[honest birch]

Use brave

[fresh timber]

why do yall tweak so much, just use linux and have a 2gb idle

[frigid stag]

That probably made it worse

[honest birch]

It isn't hard, I prefer windows

[fresh timber]

i stopped caring about ram after 32gb g

[frigid stag]

Oh I’d be on 7 if I could

[fresh timber]

if i have less than 16 i go linux

[frigid stag]

Games treat it like it’s some antique

[fresh timber]

hell im putting linux on my laptop once i can afford it

[frigid stag]

Even though it feels better to use than win 11 or 10

[tranquil pebble]

my system be like

[fresh timber]

its going to be fun when i upgrade the 5500

ill upgrade nas to 5500

[misty sparrow]

I just reloaded Discord and they changed their damn UI again

[fresh timber]

then ill have a 2300x doig onthing

[misty sparrow]

this is gonna take a while to get used to

[fresh timber]

what they do

it looks the same to me

[lone mango]

Ima try cachy

[fresh timber]

w t f

WTF

[misty sparrow]

i hate the new design

it's like, everything is skewed a little

extra spacing on the UI where there shouldn't be

[fresh timber]

i like it ngl

[misty sparrow]

like with the text box

[fresh timber]

servers are smaller

@honest birch try it on ur oled

goin be fire

[frigid stag]

There’s a new design?

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-ip-adress-i-have-your-ip-i-have-your-ip-adress-i-have-your-ip-address-gif-25694584

[frigid stag]

I need to figure out how to disable updates

[fresh timber]

why

new design is nice

[frigid stag]

Not just this one, it was better a few updates ago

[tranquil pebble]

127.0.0.1

[frigid stag]

Like there’s so many unnecessary changes like status showing up as thought bubbles

And these weird pop ups when joining servers for 0 reason

[fresh timber]

fire

[tranquil pebble]

if you ever fail to ping that IP, something has gone horribly wrong with your system

[fresh timber]

lol

[misty sparrow]

I feel like for the new discord ui, the area on the left has too much space

me no likey

[fresh timber]

cmd doesnt display pings less than 1ms

if i use linux i reports like 0.3ms for me

pretty low

gaming on local servers at that ping is nice

[tranquil pebble]

Linux CLI is like 1000x better than Windows CLI

[frigid stag]

Ye it’s the rounded corners that are most annoying

[fresh timber]

corect

[misty sparrow]

oh you can actually change it

what the hell

[frigid stag]

I’m starting to see why it’s bad

[south sapphire]

Is there a way to check status of return

[frigid stag]

I hate modern design philosophy in general

[fresh timber]

i love it

[misty sparrow]

if you hover your mouse over the line separating the channel list from the message box you can adjust it

[frigid stag]

“Round corners feel less threatening to the user” like mf you have bigger problems in life if a website makes you feel threatened

[limber crane]

trigger warnings for discord when

[frigid stag]

Real

[tranquil pebble]

that sounds like something some corpo pulled from their rear

[south sapphire]

Is there a way to see status of a return

[frigid stag]

It’s some principle of ui/ux design with modern aesthetic ✨

But ye Microsoft probably banked hard on it

[tranquil pebble]

Aero was peak Windows UI IMO

[frigid stag]

Classic was better cause it turned off dwm

Not an aesthetic thing but just a small plus

[tranquil pebble]

I had Vista with a 1 GB VRAM GPU in like 2008 lol

and a gig of VRAM at this time was a LOT

[frigid stag]

I don’t remember much of vista

I remember xp and then 7

[tranquil pebble]

Vista SP1 on i7 920, HD 4890, 12 GB RAM was fire

everything was basically instant

[limber crane]

vista on launch was butts, but by the end it was fantastic

[misty sparrow]

as if people on twitter will actually go "a sharp corner is an insult to people like me"

[limber crane]

people on twitter identify as cats and attack helicopters

[tranquil pebble]

yeah I got to experience Vista at its best and thus remember it well

[tranquil pebble]

The end of Vista was similar to Win7 in a lot of ways

[tranquil pebble]

That is just people poking fun at gender identity stuff, which is not particularly nice.

[fresh timber]

wanna know whats funny about a cpu bottleneck

things that should help fps dont

[fresh nova]

Guys

[fresh timber]

lowering graphcs settings? increases gpu load but fps stays the same, lowering gpu util? that somehow gives more fps

[fresh nova]

If I’m trying to connect multiple devices microphone, speaker, keyboard mouse etc…

Using a usb splitter

Splitting a usb C to 4X USB 3.0 ports is best right

[fresh timber]

what is the usbc running

usb4 3.2 etc etc

[fresh nova]

Or would splitting a USB 3.2 type A work just as well

[worthy meteor]

Gonna depend on the standard of the type c port lol

So many different standards

[fresh timber]

if its a 20gig usbc id use that

[frigid stag]

Probably would

[tranquil pebble]

CPU bottleneck is only bad when it limits FPS to under what you are trying to play at. Lets say you are CPU limited at 400 FPS... this would NOT be an issue lol.

[fresh nova]

It’s a DP compatible USB C port so it supports power delivery, etc

Whatever the latest and greatest USB C is

[fresh timber]

lets just say a better cpu gives me like 80-100 more fps

[fresh timber]

usb 4/thunderbolt 5

[fresh nova]

I’m just wondering if it’s worth $35 for a USB C to 4X usb 3.0 or if I should just get the usb 3.2 to 3x 3.0z

[tranquil pebble]

If you have a fast CPU and still CPU bottlenecked that is time to set a frame limit

[fresh nova]

I remember for keyboard mouse splitting them can be a problem

[fresh timber]

lol nah im still using my 5500+7700xt rig right now

[limber crane]

if only i had the nvidia ai to tell me to frame limit

[tranquil pebble]

that does not say much... what is the fps without the upgrade?

[fresh timber]

80-120 with 5500+7700xt vs 160-220 with 13600kf 7700xt

[fresh nova]

This or

[fresh timber]

ooo

[fresh nova]

This