general-chat

[dusk knot]

And FSR 4

Especially FSR 4

The clarity is an improvement

[limber crane]

i think a few of them are also things my wife ordered for ren faire

[dusk knot]

All these used 7900xtxs are overpriced

Not a shocker

[limber crane]

but my main order of components from amazon had 21 individual pieces 😂

[devout forum]

Competition goes like this:
New 9070 XT: 360k Monopoly monies
"Used" 9070 XT (not bought from a store, still has warranty): 350k monies
Used 7900 XTX: same as "used" 9070 XT
5070: 310k monies
Used 7900 XT: 305k monies
3090: 265k monies
3080 Ti: 220k monies

(Monopoly monies here is HUF)

[dusk knot]

Something IKEA would do if they sold gaming PCs

[limber crane]

but i also ordered some other stuff from amazon separate from pc parts, so lots of things coming. my case is also from wegg and my mobo from best buy

[dusk knot]

What currency is this again?

[devout forum]

Forint (Hungary's worthless POS currency)

it's worth less than US Monopoly dollars

[dusk knot]

Ofc ofc

[devout forum]

For reference:
1 Monopoly money: 0.00182843 USD
1 Forint: 0.0027 USD

It is actually comparable

anyhow

that 3080 Ti does look kinda spicy

Buuuuuuuut the 6800 XT can be had for much cheaper

[dusk knot]

Yeah

[limber crane]

you dont hear much about hungary these days

[devout forum]

Swearing

Plz remove

and then reupload with censor

Them's the rules, sorry

[dusk knot]

Smh

#rules

[mortal grail]

XTX being the same price is compelling

You'd have to pick between the 9070XT and the XTX based on what you were doing lol

[devout forum]

wdym

[mortal grail]

Well the XTX has more vram and a straight performance advantage

[devout forum]

the 9070 XT is really cool, but frankly it's a wee bit expensive

[mortal grail]

But the 9070XT has better encoding, better AI capability and a more broad game performance coverage

[limber crane]

@mortal grail The new berserker game has a warning about drivers 😄

[mortal grail]

Not surprised

They're paying attention which is good

[devout forum]

to be fair, the 9070 is DAMN close for how much less CUs it has

[mortal grail]

Oh I know

I was messing with the pulse earlier

[devout forum]

it's kind of insane, especially with a good undervolt

[mortal grail]

Took 10 minutes to swap cards, and it just worked without any issues

[devout forum]

like UV 9070 XT basically matches XTX/4080s

[mortal grail]

My hotspot delta is pretty solid too

[devout forum]

with better RT than the XTX

[dusk knot]

9700xt wins

[iron topaz]

gm

[devout forum]

so yeah

it is a bit of a tough call

But I do think the 9070 XT has the edge (with a little undervolting)

[mortal grail]

The only thing I'm disappointed about with the 9070XT is the vram is lower than the xtx

[dusk knot]

It's a no brainer if you can buy it

[devout forum]

it is in stock

[dusk knot]

[devout forum]

for 910 bucks (due to higher EU MSRP + insanely high 27% VAT)

[mortal grail]

I'm gonna daily the 9070XT tho. I want me the nicer encoder

[dusk knot]

What model, Felix?

[mortal grail]

Pulse

[dusk knot]

What is the best one btw

Ok

[mortal grail]

Paid a little over msrp for it

[mortal grail]

I mean, at full tap I couldn't hear the damn thing at all

1800 rpm and it was quieter than my p12s

That should tell you a lot about how I feel about it

[dusk knot]

Pics?

[mortal grail]

Pulse is impressive af

[dusk knot]

Pics or it didn't happen

[devout forum]

how long is it?

[mortal grail]

320 less the pcie bracket

[devout forum]

it's technically SFF-able

[dusk knot]

Nice nice

[mortal grail]

It's absolutely capable of sff

[devout forum]

you can fit it in Fractal Ridge if you wanted to lol

(assuming it's less than 82mm wide)

[mortal grail]

It's going in a fractal north

[devout forum]

fair fair

[mortal grail]

I was just testing that it works prior to building

[dusk knot]

How's the weight?

[mortal grail]

Hmmm

Like

Maybe a kilo?

It's not stupid heavy like other cards I've had at this size

Uh

You know the ftw3 you had

[dusk knot]

Yes

[mortal grail]

Imagine like, 2/3 the weight of that

Maybe a little less

[devout forum]

Felix

[mortal grail]

It's sizeable but there's a lot of open space

[devout forum]

Would you reckon my current PSU can run the 9070 XT?

[mortal grail]

Idk

What's your psu

[dusk knot]

Oh great. I've always had the impression that the 9700xt wasn't heavy

[elfin mural]

everyone says fractal north, but where's fractal south

[devout forum]

it's a double 8pin model, EVGA 650 GQ (with a full-power 12v rail)

[mortal grail]

[INNER FREE BIRD INTENSIFIES]

[elfin mural]

[mortal grail]

Reference model with a 7600X limited to 65W would kinda work

[elfin mural]

also microsoft did an oppsie again

[mortal grail]

Basically same advice I gave earlier today

[elfin mural]

latest win 10 is causing bsods

[mortal grail]

750w recommended

Minimum

The card on reference has spikes north of 550W

[devout forum]

dis one

[mortal grail]

Which are mostly ignored but it's not something you should completely write off

[mortal grail]

Same answer as above

[devout forum]

I would also move over to a 7800X3D (bought used for the same price as a 7700X)

[devout forum]

is that considered a reference model?

[mortal grail]

Swift is yes

[dusk knot]

Am I the only one who doesn't like most of the 9700xt card designs?

[mortal grail]

If you tell me you don't like the pulse it looks way better irl

I agree mostly tho

The quicksilver is smart

The pulse is gorgeous (pure too)

[devout forum]

IDK, 9070 doesn't seem that appealing

[mortal grail]

The aorus is also very pretty

[mortal grail]

It's only some 10% worse so the price lines up actually

12% worse for 10% less

Checks out

[devout forum]

well it doesn't seem that appealing

However with the lower power draw the non-XT would be safer on the PSU front lol

[mortal grail]

Non XT you could do on a GQ

[devout forum]

XT would be iffy I assume

(90% PL might work, but still)

[mortal grail]

I mean only one way to find out

I would say 650 is cutting it really fine tho

[devout forum]

You'd want to undervolt the GPU anyway right?

UV 9070XT combined with a 7800X3D
SHOULD
be feasible

on the 650

[mortal grail]

UV is not how you reduce power

That's not how it works on radeon

Not even on your 6700xt

Your power limit is what the card will try to draw

Regardless if undervolted or not

With an undervolt it will just boost higher at the same power draw

The power limit directly determines what the card will draw

You must reduce this limit (Called PPT just like Ryzen PBO) in order to reduce power

Undervolting on radeon and ryzen is how you overclock

[devout forum]

I see

90% PL maybe?

[mortal grail]

-30% if allowed lol

[devout forum]

Ye I was gonna ask what you mean kek

TBF

theoretically I do have 515 watts of headroom on the PSU

nominally that is

it can probably do 110% nominal performance for transients

[mortal grail]

I was casually watching that gpu bouncing between 450W and 550W spikes less than 2 hours ago

I just would change psu

[devout forum]

with a PL it would work no doubt

how well is the question

[mortal grail]

Heavy power limit yeah ok it will

[limber crane]

So this post from earlier, someone in another Discord showed it. They have "48GB EXPO CL30-6000, undervolt -mV90, Power +10%, PBO on 8600G" CPU is 8600G, Zen 4 Phoenix 1

[rigid sinew]

good morning everyone

have a great day !

[dusk knot]

Gm, naht

[rigid sinew]

morning jp !

[dusk knot]

How's work?

[rigid sinew]

not too bad for the 20 minutes ive been here lol

but i get off early today :)!

[craggy shoal]

Lucky

[rigid sinew]

i have dentist appt tho 😦 these braces suck

[limber crane]

Do you happen to get info on restocks? there's a big rumor going around theres going to be a large restock on 4/1

[proud jackal]

i have covid

[rigid sinew]

i dont get that info until day of - i post on our socials though so keep your alerts on. i post on x, sky, threads, fb, ig and im trying to update here in a channel but ill let yall know when thats ready

[rigid sinew]

i need covid

[proud jackal]

want me to give it to you?

[rigid sinew]

yeah pls cough in a mask and mail it to me, thanks

or a jar of CO2

thanks

[limber crane]

Cool thanks. Is there a certain criteria for determining when shuffle is used versus when it's just whoever is fastest?

[proud jackal]

is your address still the same

[rigid sinew]

i just know that there is a time frame to sign up and then its randomized for selection - other than that, i dont know much

[limber crane]

ok thanks, figured it couldnt hurt to ask 🙂

[rigid sinew]

yup - moving next week though

[limber crane]

seems like sometimes they use shuffle other times its bundles+good luck

[rigid sinew]

no problem and yeah i dont really know too much- i just post when i get told to

[limber crane]

my telegram has been going off every few minutes since 10am, seems some restocks are happening today as well

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[heavy dew]

alright so what i learned from reddit is the 360 support 1tb internal storage but the 360 needed to be modded in order to do so, but naturally it supports 500GB in the SATA slot

so now ik for certain im not cooked, cus i legit have like 8 500GB drives for no reason

[fresh timber]

You got married?

Flint n steel

[devout forum]

I'm now happy

apparently there are people who complain about HDR saturation issues

[gleaming sedge]

What would be a good way to get 5.1 audio for my house Stereo system? It's a older one and does not have hdmi imput built in and not break the bank

[devout forum]

There are workarounds with nGreedAI GPUs but I dunno if radeon has RTX HDR equivalent

[gleaming sedge]

I don't really want to build another computer for it either

I belive there are hdmi to 5.1 but not sure if I need a hdmi splitter for it and what kind for that

[devout forum]

@mortal grail Welp, I guess the AOC after all IS too cheap to be true

[dusk knot]

Hm

[devout forum]

I mean for someone with no actual HDR experience

even a slightly undersaturated HDR image would look amazing right?

[lone mango]

Having trouble telling the difference between xv271u v3bmiiprx and the xv272u v3bmiiprx and the xb273u v3bmiiprx

The only major difference seems to be brightness

[worthy meteor]

would recommend just not using HDR there lol

[devout forum]

apparently it's not so bad

[fresh timber]

When I use hdr my tv is stuck in 1080p mode

[limber crane]

Wegg is so confusing to me

charges for GPU shipping but my case shipped for free and will only take 3 days

[worthy meteor]

depends on who is shipping it

[limber crane]

both were from newegg

[fresh timber]

Theirs a reason I use Amazon

[lone mango]

Is it possible that I have a defective psu fan or something or that maybe the psu thinks its hotter than it actually is

Literally killed my vibe last night bro

It was so quiet and out of nowhere the psu fan kicks on really loud VOOOOOOM

[limber crane]

has nothing to do with this scenario lmao. the case was $40 more through amazon, so even if wegg charged shipping it wouldve been cheaper

[lone mango]

It actually made me jump a tiny bit last night

Then after a couple minutes it goes back to 0 rpm

[worthy meteor]

sounds like the PSU fan is having some issues

[lone mango]

Bro its like i cranked my fans to max

[fresh timber]

My system vibrates cause bad psu

Lollll

[lone mango]

But I only noticed now after a year and a half of having it because the fan never turned on with my other card

My new card draws 140-160w but even that shouldnt turn the fan on

[dusk knot]

Testing wifi. Testing 1.2.3

Ok we're good

[acoustic palm]

Gpu

[fresh timber]

You married your gpu?

[lone mango]

[acoustic palm]

No my gpu gets here

[lone mango]

Wow congratulations

[fresh timber]

I’m bored

[dusk knot]

Lies. Companies always sugar coat things

[fresh timber]

Hey jp wanna know something funny

[dusk knot]

Yes, jp

[fresh timber]

I water cooled a 2300x and the AIO didn’t even need a fan

[dusk knot]

lol

What temps

[fresh timber]

Didn’t even change temp tires

[fresh timber]

Littelry 50c max

[dusk knot]

Perfect

No noise

[fresh timber]

Excatly

[dusk knot]

Just heat

[fresh timber]

Barley any

[mental yoke]

:f:

i liked evga a lot

[dusk knot]

Now de-fan your gpu

[mental yoke]

dont they have convection based flow stuff

i thought i saw that advertised awhile back

[fresh timber]

Where you not here when my gpu fans refused to work lmfao

Mf littlerry hot 110c

[dusk knot]

Lmao

But at least it was quiet

[fresh timber]

Wanna know how I fixed it

[lone mango]

In your service evga

[fresh timber]

I had to remount the gpu

Lmfao

[dusk knot]

Hm

Well glad you didn’t kill your card

[dusk knot]

Just one more year

[lone mango]

For what

[dusk knot]

Till market stabilization

[lone mango]

Oh right

Evga is just withering away man

[mental yoke]

eh

[lone mango]

The psu I got is completely out of stock

They are selling like 3 psus and some mice

Couple other things

[mental yoke]

wait they arent doing motherboards anymore?

[mental yoke]

cats have 9 lives why would you buy a cat 8?

[lone mango]

They have a z690 board but its $900

[mental yoke]

yea evga always just did the top end thing really well

[lone mango]

Probably so high because there is no stock

Like their 2060 listing

400+

[mental yoke]

i cant find that convection based aio thing i saw awhile back

[lone mango]

Can barely find anything

Those 3 psus are ones nobody will buy

I really do think if they went amd people would jump ship

People really wanted them to switch when they dropped out

But big dog didnt want to and now its just a withering husk

[mental yoke]

i think its less evga being dumb and just more the sad realization that america isnt where the money is

cus evga was pretty isolated i feel to north america

i dont think they were big outside of that?

[devout forum]

Apparently the Philips Evnia 27M2N8500 is like

Really super good

[mental yoke]

27in?

[devout forum]

ye

27" 1440p 360hz QD-OLED

[mental yoke]

this 32' im staring at makes me upset at how small it is

[devout forum]

lowest input lag Tomshardware tested in the category

[fresh timber]

I love you

[mental yoke]

oh it wasnt an aio it was an entire case

https://streacom.com/products/sg10-fanless-gaming-pc-case/

the fans were just showing that you could attach fans if you wanted

[devout forum]

the best part is that it's priced like the AOC

[dusk knot]

Hm

[icy ore]

[unreal trail]

monke

[dusk knot]

Monke

[storm umbra]

Whats a good anti sag thing i can use for my gpu with this case https://a.co/d/gCYziuh

[pliant berry]

lego bricks always work

[dusk knot]

Random stick from outside

[storm umbra]

Well i csnt do that with my case

Its slanted

Is their like a bracket supprt bar or something?

[mental yoke]

anime figurine

[dusk knot]

Yes. There are adjustable ones that you can find online

[storm umbra]

https://a.co/d/d25P8Ez

Is this one good?

[mental yoke]

actually i had one of those for free with a case purchase

they suck honestly

i would rather lego brick

[storm umbra]

I cant use lego bricks

[dusk knot]

https://a.co/d/5ZpEdiv

Cheap

[mental yoke]

those are better^

[storm umbra]

Still doesnt work, if u look at my pc case

Their is nowhere to screw it in

[mental yoke]

the ones that sit along the pcie slot case things suck really bad

[dusk knot]

Where's your case?

[mental yoke]

you make somewhere to screw it in. but those actually dont need that

[dusk knot]

Nvm...

Lol

Ok looking at it

[storm umbra]

https://a.co/d/fxRp4P1

[pliant berry]

I think there are ones that use a tether from top of the case too

[storm umbra]

That would be really uglyyy

[mental yoke]

you dont need one

[storm umbra]

You do need gpu support, i want my gpu to last

I dont want anything to bend or break

[mental yoke]

they are designed with being able to exist in mind but yes you want to feel more secure

[dusk knot]

Hard to find those

[mental yoke]

didnt nvidia release those with the 4090 founder edition?

or was that the 3090ti kingpin from evga, i remember some weird ass hanging support system

[dusk knot]

I really like the design of this case with the lowe can

[mental yoke]

[fresh timber]

how do i know if a game is running in 4k, it thinks its in 1440p

should be 4k cause borderless doesnt change res

[lone mango]

Let me catch my son spend $850 on a $600 card to replace some fans that will die 4 years from now

[mental yoke]

it thinks its in 1440p?

[lone mango]

Because thats your monitor res

[fresh timber]

yeah, its fullscreened on 4k

[mental yoke]

i spend money on gachas 🤷

[fresh timber]

nuh uh

[lone mango]

Oh

[fresh timber]

its on a 4k one

but it grabs the res of my main display

but its scaling just fine on 4k

maybe game is doing stupid

[mental yoke]

dont use borderless full screen

[lone mango]

You might have to do fullscreen and go borderless

[fresh timber]

nono, thats why its doing 4k i think

[mental yoke]

or get rid of the other display

[fresh timber]

if i set it to fullscreen it likes to change the res to 1440p

[lone mango]

Did you launch the game on the 4k display or 1440p

[mental yoke]

its really just better to have matching displays for a lot of the reasons of things ur posting

[lone mango]

Because I play warframe, its literally supposed to just work

[fresh timber]

1440p, I think game just thinks its 1440p but is doing 4k just fine

sooo im just overthinking

[lone mango]

Launch it on 4k monitor

[mental yoke]

its prolly not doing 4k

[fresh timber]

if it wasnt wouldnt it change the monitors res

[lone mango]

If it says 1440p its most likely 1440p

[mental yoke]

🤷 ur asking weird magical gremlin stuff. maybe?

[fresh timber]

i wish games made it easier to launch difrfent monitors smh

cod be letting u change the display

[mental yoke]

games are designed with console users in mind

[fresh timber]

WHO PLAYS WARFRAME

whats better dx11 or 12

[mental yoke]

depends

[lone mango]

Warframe has its own launcher so move the launcher to the 4k panel and open it

[lone mango]

Try and see

[fresh timber]

cant move launcher, ima just play cod

[lone mango]

Really does depend

[mental yoke]

warframes discord is very.... uhh robust

and active

just fyi

[lone mango]

On windows wf dx12 is stuttery

On linux is no problem

[fresh timber]

theirs a reason im swappign to linux on non gaming devices

[lone mango]

But varies per system

[fresh timber]

i like dx12 in fortnite

[lone mango]

Some people are just fine if not even faster with dx12

[fresh timber]

apex dx12 give less fps but im always 200fps capped

i thought my 1440p was alot of pixels, nah man

4k is so big

@lone mango give more games to test

im bored

[mental yoke]

quake rt

[fresh timber]

well i cant raytrace well

[mental yoke]

ur bored and said test 🤷

[devout forum]

Dunno, 4k largely feels pointless rn

[mental yoke]

im not sure what u mean

[devout forum]

I mean sure it's cool

But like driving a 4k panel in games is pain rn

[mental yoke]

ive been playing games in 4k for like 4 years its just normal for me 🤷

[devout forum]

Anything other than a 90 class card is gonna fare pretty bad more than likely

[fresh timber]

i got on fortnite

if the 5500 is a bottleneck at 4k

...

i go home wensday atleast, wont suffer too much longer

heheha

this cpu is funny

[mental yoke]

whats dsc? also why is finding specs weird

[fresh timber]

it compresses video singal going from gpu to monitor to fit more stuff

[mental yoke]

so what can it do at 8k period?

[worthy meteor]

that's just dependent on what the connector is able to do

[mental yoke]

what if the connector can do 8k at 165hz?

[worthy meteor]

the max you can do is 8k 165hz with DSC because the best port you have is DP 2.1b

[mental yoke]

Up to 8K 12-bit HDR at 120Hz With HDMI 2.1b

found it ye

[worthy meteor]

DP 2.1b is going to get you a bit higher bandwidth than HDMI 2.1b

[fresh timber]

my internet isnt working

[mental yoke]

With dual DP 2.1b + DSC, up to 8K HDR at 100Hz
you have to use two dps?

[devout forum]

Now that we have a port capable of 8k 165hz

We just need a GPU capable of driving that resolution+refresh rate combo

[mental yoke]

i just want 8k on a desktop and ill game on something else

[fresh timber]

Theirs more games that a 5090 can run that than games that can’t

[worthy meteor]

pretty sure it has to do with UHBR20

[fresh timber]

8k 165 on Minecraft

8k 165 on random indie games

[devout forum]

I mean even with 4× MFG and ultra performace DLSS it won't reach near that

[mental yoke]

two 8k 100hz displays

with dsc

[fresh timber]

Your assuming the newest games

Think older

[devout forum]

Even then

They'd probably look like dogcrap

[worthy meteor]

older games don't even let you display at 8k lmao

[devout forum]

That too

[mental yoke]

half life 2 with rtx in 8k

[worthy meteor]

gonna have to upscale it anyways

[fresh timber]

Think a little newer 😭😭

Like Minecraft

[devout forum]

Imagine NFS MW 2005 in 8k165

It'd look soooooooo bad

[fresh timber]

fortnite is the most cpu dependent game i ever had

MF IS CPU DEPENDENT AT 4k

[mental yoke]

why wouldnt an internet game be not cpu dependent?

[fresh timber]

i have a few internet games that are not

also almost every game thesse days require intrenet even if your by your self

[dusk knot]

Yes

[fresh timber]

5500+3090

if used 3090 prices made sense id get one frfr

[mental yoke]

what can the 9070xt do for 8k?

[fresh timber]

wdym

[acoustic palm]

I think it can

[fresh timber]

massivily depends on what ur doing

[acoustic palm]

But why would you

[fresh timber]

my 7700xt can run 8k, dosent mean every game will

i bet i could get 8k 60fps on minecaft after a few performance mods

[mental yoke]

the amd website is sparse on specs

[fresh timber]

just look at the connector

thats all you need

also mad wierd using the companys website

[mental yoke]

true

[fresh timber]

usehttps://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229

tpu aint trying to sell and advertise you the product

[mental yoke]

but the company should have this information available

[fresh timber]

they do

ur not looking hard enough

[mental yoke]

i mean i found the connectors

[fresh timber]

that tells you what res u can run

easyu

[mental yoke]

itlls do two 8k panels at 100hz?

[fresh timber]

how many ports does it have

[mental yoke]

i unno im just looking at what the cards can do

[fresh timber]

also i dont think many cards out their can power multiply 4k high refreshrate displays letalone 8k

[acoustic palm]

Even 5090 is debatable

[mental yoke]

top end cards are usually held back by the port connectivity tech

[fresh timber]

and 99.9% of people dont notice

most people are going to have 1-2 monitors

[mental yoke]

ye

[fresh timber]

people who ned like 8 monitors get dual gpus

like two 4060s

[mental yoke]

ill prolly just separate the systems cus im doing an 8k and two 4ks

[fresh timber]

LMFAO

@acoustic palm at 4k epic the 5500 still wont let the 7700xt strech its legs

this is funny

[acoustic palm]

Gg

[acoustic palm]

I can’t wait for this Saturday

[fresh timber]

i just realised

my pc is about as fast as yours rn

ew

[acoustic palm]

Damn

Not for long

[fresh timber]

dont worry quoke

my 13600kf still wins in some random benchmark that uses all my cores

[acoustic palm]

Copage

[fresh timber]

dont make me ditch laptop and go for a 9070xt

smh

hell dont make me hunt down a used 4080

[acoustic palm]

9070xt beats 4080 no

[fresh timber]

um

depends

im not 100% sure on raytracing tho

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

I mean rasterization

[fresh timber]

so what matters more for us lmfao

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

Apex don’t got rt 😦

[fresh timber]

i want nvidia for its features

but they prices suck

[acoustic palm]

I mean

[fresh timber]

i would get 5070ti over 9070xt tho

[acoustic palm]

Mfg, what else

[fresh timber]

i dont even want that

the creative side

AI stuff

[acoustic palm]

Oh blender

Ai sucks

[fresh timber]

i awnna make ai images kek

[acoustic palm]

Such a good reason

[fresh timber]

listen man

[acoustic palm]

Also do I gotta do this driver downgrade stuff

[fresh timber]

the streaming argument doesnt work anymore

[acoustic palm]

😦

[fresh timber]

lmfao

looks like off one benchmark 9070xt can loose to 4080

[acoustic palm]

Look at avg

[fresh timber]

in this game

o

what athye are basicly the same thing lmfao

[acoustic palm]

The game I play

[fresh timber]

i play..

well i play minecraft

i play roblox

sometimes fortnite

umm

yeahhh i play alot

SOMEHOW I CANt get 240fps tho

[acoustic palm]

Gg

Also try once human

It’s so fun

[fresh timber]

my friend never got on to paly with me

[acoustic palm]

Rip bozo

[fresh timber]

ill get bored

[acoustic palm]

It’s fun w friends

[fresh timber]

all they wanna play is mine raft and marvel rivals

[acoustic palm]

Also

I found the best shader pack

[fresh timber]

i want more games

what game do i buy

[acoustic palm]

IterationT

[fresh timber]

im getting nomans sky

but after that idk what els

[acoustic palm]

Look at this

[acoustic palm]

Look

[fresh timber]

i get tired of it

i dont like flashy shaders that make the game harder

TACO TUESDAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[acoustic palm]

Those who know what it actually is

[fresh timber]

Hot take, most 30 series cards are 1080p cards cause low vram

[twin laurel]

Is the msi mag 650bn a good psu

[wise wigeon]

Idk if I’ve ever seen a melted 8 pin from just pigtailing but here we are https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/UOIcwSGXYj

[acoustic palm]

Eh

[wise wigeon]

Guy was kinda asking for it using a 10 year old psu

A 10 year old power supply that was barely meeting the minimum requirement

[wise wigeon]

Pretty hot take you can still get buy turning things off for 1440p

[fresh timber]

Good luck on 8gb vram, gotta get 3080 or above for higher

[acoustic palm]

My 3060ti is ok for 1440p

[wise wigeon]

Base 3080 has 2 more gb

I upgraded because I wanted to, plus I wanted high refresh

[fresh timber]

They really are limited by the vram, a dude here upgraded theirs to 16gb

A lot better

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

I mean it worked for cyberpunk

So

[wise wigeon]

Pretty sure the 3060ti has a 16gb model doesnt it?

[fresh timber]

Nope

[acoustic palm]

70-80fps on 1440p high settings

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fresh timber]

Nvidia gave the 3060 more

[wise wigeon]

Am I thinking 4060ti?

[fresh timber]

Yes

If take a 4060ti ngl

2nd system could use it

[frigid stag]

Ye for ai

[fresh timber]

AI is the best

[frigid stag]

I have 11g and it doesn’t use more than 8 unless I run 4k

[fresh timber]

I wanna get something cheap for 4k one of these days

[fresh timber]

I can use my 12gb at 4k and 1440p

[frigid stag]

Rt sucks though. If I run rt at 4k I’d be considering a new gpu

[fresh timber]

Erm

Could have been better

[acoustic palm]

Meta

@sweet phoenix I found the case on Amazon for the same price, since I got prime would it be smart to buy it there

[sweet phoenix]

Sure

Doesn't matter much

[rancid juniper]

aint no way

[acoustic palm]

yo i need help

[topaz crown]

Hello @acoustic palm! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[rancid juniper]

specifics?

[acoustic palm]

to downgrade drivers without ddu can i install drivers pre 572.xx on nvidia website then use device manager to change em?

like this

[rancid juniper]

you could just download and install this with little to no issue

doesn't nvidia have their own driver cleanup utility with their installers?

[acoustic palm]

not that i can find

[rancid juniper]

basically this

thats only if you choose custom install

[acoustic palm]

uh

nope

[rancid juniper]

its right there

lol

[acoustic palm]

you cant choose older versions tho

[rancid juniper]

you can download the older version from the site and still install it

you don't need to revert via device manager

[acoustic palm]

ok

[acoustic palm]

I somehow… don’t have any drivers

So uh

That’s not good

[rancid juniper]

🤨

lol what happened?

[acoustic palm]

Idk

It said “error try restarting”

So I restarted and I somehow have no current drivers

[rancid juniper]

launch up the older drivers again

[acoustic palm]

Man

I can’t

It literally won’t let me

[rancid juniper]

if it doesn't work do this

1. Disable internet
2. Go into safemode
3. DDU
4. Restart to OS
5. Install drivers again (Internet off)
6. Once done turn it back on

[acoustic palm]

Here’s the issue

I can’t go into safe mode

[rancid juniper]

????????????????????????????

hells going on with your pc?

[acoustic palm]

I have bitlocker

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[acoustic palm]

And my dad has the password in his safe

And he’s not home

[rancid juniper]

bruh

well you can run DDU without safemode

at the very least

so do all the steps (no.2 excluded)

[acoustic palm]

wait

[rancid juniper]

so it does work?

[acoustic palm]

ig so

idk why it didnt before

[rancid juniper]

select perform clean

[acoustic palm]

oops

💀

[rancid juniper]

ah whatever

if it works it works

[acoustic palm]

yeah

cant wait to not have to deal with nvidia soon

[rancid juniper]

heh

[acoustic palm]

and get a crazy upgrade

9070xt 🤤 \

[rancid juniper]

mm yes finally

[rancid juniper]

gonna be good

[acoustic palm]

yeah

yay

[lone mango]

99% of the performance at 130w

[wise wigeon]

yeah except its just as hit or miss

had a lot of driver timeouts with the 2 weeks that i had a XTX

just dont trust either company to be competant with drivers

[fresh timber]

I’m running the 5500 with out AIO fans and it’s fine lmfao

[worthy meteor]

so far 9070xt has been much more stable driver wise for me

[fresh timber]

I’m jealous

[worthy meteor]

no more nvidia overlay dying, no more nvldmkm

[fresh timber]

quok ru running 9070xt

with your current rig

And pray psu doesn’t die

[wise wigeon]

its just hot or miss in general

[worthy meteor]

oh yea in general it's just hit or miss but I really don't think Nvidia drivers are better

[fresh timber]

This psu sucks

[wise wigeon]

i'[m sure people had a pleasant time with the XTX and others had horror stories

[fresh timber]

I think they where better w year ago

More like 2 years ago

[wise wigeon]

yeh thats why you just assume bad drivers for both and you wont get disapponted

[fresh timber]

My first desktop had a rx6600 and it would time out from alt tabbing 😭😭

[worthy meteor]

The biggest source of AMD's bad driver reputation comes from 5 years ago lol

[wise wigeon]

some people still have that issue

[lone mango]

I never had that issue

[fresh timber]

Recent drivers solved that problem for me

[worthy meteor]

it's old stories of 5700xt drivers being horrendous

[fresh timber]

I can use my 6600 fine now

[wise wigeon]

rightfully so though

[lone mango]

Really I never had any issues for the past almost 7 years I had amd

[worthy meteor]

yea that was really bad

it's no longer that bad

[wise wigeon]

5700xt had some major issues

[worthy meteor]

if we say 5% of people on average suffer issues with drivers on either side today, for 5700xt, it was more like 50% lol

[fresh timber]

If you had to make a tech illerate person a pc what would you get for gpu

Something that doesn’t just.. die for no reason

[lone mango]

Igpu i guess

Intel igpu

[fresh timber]

Something with gaming power…

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

i mean i'd say thats true to most users, its just the users that have issues post online for help and out of frustration

[worthy meteor]

of course, no reason to post about drivers working, but there's a lot of reasons to post when drivers aren't working lol

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

missing rops is a pretty major issue that should have never passed QC but the amount of people actually affected is lower than what people make you think

[lone mango]

Clearly I am missing rops

[fresh timber]

Unironically 4060 looks appealing, no major issues

[wise wigeon]

if its sub 200 go for it dude

[worthy meteor]

yea missing rops is probably about 5% rn

[wise wigeon]

I dont even know if i'd say 5%

[fresh timber]

Rate paste

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[acoustic palm]

ew wtf

[worthy meteor]

It's hard to get data in general for it tbh

[wise wigeon]

yeah, and i'm not personally counting so i've seen much less than i thought there would be

[worthy meteor]

really hard to say how many people actually have the problem and haven't reported it

[acoustic palm]

70%?????????????????????

WHAT

[worthy meteor]

yea it also seems to be a bigger issue with like launch day stock

later stock seems to be better

[wise wigeon]

more stock recently too

its just AIBs only building OC models lol

[worthy meteor]

gotta make that profit

[wise wigeon]

pny our savior

i used to be chill with xfx but damn thats a bad look

[fresh timber]

Bro

Why is 70w so hot

😭😭😭

[wise wigeon]

850 model at launch

and now its what like 930

absurd stuff

its almost as if my rambling pre launch was true

[fresh timber]

20mins aio no fans

5500 doesnt even need damn fans

just unplug them

[wise wigeon]

my 9800x3d gets rather warm at 70w

[fresh timber]

and by warm i mean touching the aio it self

[acoustic palm]

man

[fresh timber]

i wonder how my 13600kf aio is when i dont have fans

probably on fire

[acoustic palm]

i wanna use a shader pack but i cant find the mc settings to make it work

[fresh timber]

man i wanna get 9800x3d but money

oky

i ned fans now

[wise wigeon]

bro why

[fresh timber]

plugging the fans back up

[wise wigeon]

just get a new gpu dude

[fresh timber]

i know

i want that too

[wise wigeon]

13600k is fine

[fresh timber]

LMFAO

[wise wigeon]

i was on a 10700k and it was really showing its age

[fresh timber]

i swapped from 11600k to 13600kf

i love 13600kf after i got better ram

aka the same ram i had on 11600k but overclocked

one fan dropping temps w

[rancid juniper]

how many watts was it pulling?

[fresh timber]

72, i plugged the fans back in and now im at 69c

[rancid juniper]

...

[fresh timber]

i should prob buy better fans cause i cant get proper fan speed reading out of it

i dont even think one fan is helping

[rancid juniper]

lol no

[fresh timber]

msi bios is so bad i had to get an app, and it still bad

msi bios didnt have a clear way to make aio pump run 100% i ran into temp issues with out the app

[fresh nova]

How much used 4070 founders editions selling for these days?

can't find any online

[fresh timber]

elon bought them all

[acoustic palm]

YO

ITS HERE

[wise wigeon]

is it not a seperate fan header?

[fresh timber]

nope

i only have 3 fan headesr

[wise wigeon]

feel like i had no issues with my old freezer 2

[fresh timber]

the aio isnt a problem its the bios

[wise wigeon]

usually the cpu fan and the pump have seperate headers

[fresh timber]

and for some reason it still cant report the fan speed properly back to the app, i never had this issue on my z790

[fresh timber]

thats a higher end mobo feature

ima go to bios which is up to latest stable and try again

My dad bought me 32gb ram!!

[storm umbra]

rate my build :)) i already purchased the gpu and the monitor btw https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Adamify/saved/#view=yZxm3C

[storm umbra]

i hate how their gpus legit look like hoverboards

[fresh nova]

I see Founders cards hold value...Jesus

[rancid juniper]

give it that bleak future look

[lone mango]

Those 50 series marketing pics make it look like a video game item

[mental yoke]

well..

[fresh nova]

Guess this is good for me I'm selling my desktop soon.

Laptop life.

[mental yoke]

both is nice

[fresh nova]

Well there's 80% chance I'm moving for work & my new job will require 90% travel so I won't have much of any time for a desktop.

[mental yoke]

i am very impressed with the mac book pro over a lot of other laptops ive tried.

[lone mango]

it looks live a video game pickup

[fresh nova]

Ammo box?

Flux Capacitor?

[mental yoke]

kinda looks like a weird portable speaker

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-dolorean-gif-20827675

[limber crane]

looks like a vhs tape at some angles

[fresh timber]

How to guys

[lone mango]

Since my 6700 xt draws 130w do you think i could use one 8 pin for now

I would like to close my side panel

[acoustic palm]

🤤

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

AMD gaming

[mental yoke]

sexy

[wise wigeon]

there is a reason it hasnt sold lol

[lone mango]

When you look up 6750 xt and see yeston cards at 450

Brother nobody is buying this

[acoustic palm]

An even better photo

[rancid juniper]

😳

[storm umbra]

someone told me not to get an asrock motherboard for my 9800x3d

is this true?

[mental yoke]

is it?

[storm umbra]

thats why im asking silly

[mental yoke]

we dont know if someone told you that

[rancid juniper]

i dunno about Asrock's reliability in terms of mobo but i do run their graphics cards

[mental yoke]

asrock is fine

[lone mango]

Yeah bro kinda rarted

[storm umbra]

apparently peoples cpu are dying frequently with asrock mobo's

[rancid juniper]

Gigabyte or MSI might be your best choice then

[storm umbra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1iui7lx/9800x3d_failuresdeaths_megathread/

[rancid juniper]

so avoid asrock for now

[mental yoke]

asrock is not fine

[wise wigeon]

its not a asrock exclusive problem but yes the reported issues show a lot more asrock boards

[mental yoke]

some chip on the board?

[worn wave]

bios issue likely

[fresh timber]

Instal it

[wise wigeon]

people have had fails after the bios that supposedly fixed it

[acoustic palm]

No I’m fine

[fresh timber]

Ngl it might go in

Idk if your current psu will die or not

[acoustic palm]

Risky with a 650w older psu

[storm umbra]

why are thier 2 more graphics card slots in the bottom of motherboards?

[fresh timber]

Funny

[worn wave]

right but the fact that it's only the 9800x3d suggests it's not a physical board issue

[storm umbra]

who tf needs 3

[limber crane]

you can plug things other than GPUs into PCIe slots

[storm umbra]

like what

[limber crane]

google it

[storm umbra]

interesting

so their not heavily used im seeing

[sweet phoenix]

Capture cards, ssd expansion slots

Wifi cards

[mental yoke]

they can be heavily used if you want to

its just expandable capability

[wise wigeon]

its not just 9800x3ds

[storm umbra]

since im not gonna get the asrock mobo is this a good alt https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B850-AORUS-WIFI7-Motherboard/dp/B0DQLHVQSF/ref=sr_1_1?

[wise wigeon]

same thread shows other non x3d failures

[sweet phoenix]

Fine but overpriced

[storm umbra]

well its a b850

its gonna be more

[sweet phoenix]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-pro-x670-p-wifi-proseries-motherboard-5

[rancid juniper]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813144642?

oh

[mental yoke]

i feel gigabyte quality fell heavily during covid

[rancid juniper]

nvm

[storm umbra]

i dont have anything to upgrade the bios

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rf8Pxr/gigabyte-b850-eagle-wifi6e-atx-am5-motherboard-b850-eagle-wifi6e

[wise wigeon]

@worn wave

[sweet phoenix]

The motherboard has a bios flashback feature

Meaning you need a usb, something to install bios to the usb, and to press a button on the motherboard

[worn wave]

72 dead 9800x3ds vs 8 others though

[rancid juniper]

wow thats ass

[acoustic palm]

That’s only their mobo that are bad… right

[wise wigeon]

still not really an exclusive issue, just like gigabyte boards being not completely safe from the issue

something with the motherboards aint meshing with zen 5

[limber crane]

your GPU gonna go boom

[acoustic palm]

😦

[worn wave]

afaik asrock gpus are fine

[limber crane]

ive heard nothing but good things about them tbh

[wise wigeon]

except that weird XTX that was a weird anomaly card

[limber crane]

theyre not as popular as Sapphire/XFX/Powercolor

[wise wigeon]

the blower 12 pin XTX

[acoustic palm]

I like that side profile

[tranquil pebble]

found some Carolina Reaper flavored cheese puffs and they are so good

[limber crane]

your pics are worse than JPs

[storm umbra]

i have the same gpu

[worn wave]

blower xtx 💀

[fresh nova]

are blkower style cards back

what the

[wise wigeon]

nah asrock just weird

[acoustic palm]

Low light in my room

[worn wave]

creator line meant to be lower profile or something

[dusk knot]

Looks bent lmao

[limber crane]

low light has nothing to do with how blurry it is

[acoustic palm]

It’s not

[wise wigeon]

was about to say

its prob the camera

[mental yoke]

optical illusion from the slant on the foam

[mental yoke]

and the angle sucks

there ya go

[dusk knot]

You have some Major lens distortion.😂 what phone is that? @acoustic palm

[worn wave]

well it's motion blur so it's likely the shutter speed was slower due to low light

[acoustic palm]

Uhhhh

14 pro question mark

[mental yoke]

its fine in the second pic

[acoustic palm]

15 pro

[dusk knot]

iPhone.. smh

[wise wigeon]

i mean they do just got better video

[dusk knot]

They do

[acoustic palm]

I get it for free 🤷‍♂️

[dusk knot]

But not pictures

[wise wigeon]

its like not even very close

[dusk knot]

It's fine. nothing serious

[wise wigeon]

pictures are a tossup

i dont like what new pixels are doing

[fresh timber]

https://a.co/d/7ls8pPH does this look like scam

[limber crane]

could be like the asus 5080 and have a bottom fan

[mental yoke]

i kinda prefer the pixel cam over the iphone cam

[fresh timber]

I’m buying ram right now

[acoustic palm]

I needa buy stuff soon

[worn wave]

no?

[wise wigeon]

i mean gigabyte has an optional fan in the box you just attach on top

[fresh timber]

Okay, it has non Amazon seller so I wasn’t sure

[lone mango]

No b650 posts

[fresh timber]

Ain’t trying to wake up Tommrow with fake ram

[wise wigeon]

there are

[worn wave]

non-sus price, 900+ ratings most 5 stars

[limber crane]

MSI 5080 bundle with power supply for $1700 lmao

[lone mango]

Man

[mental yoke]

beasutiful

[lone mango]

Its over

[fresh timber]

Bet

[lone mango]

AM4 my beloved

[wise wigeon]

again its like the rop issue it probably wont affect most people

but it has steered me away from asrock for a bit

i prefer the gigabyte bios anyway

[mental yoke]

i like the ideology behind the socket compatability of cpus but.... it really feels like it just kinda sucks a lot from stuff like this

[lone mango]

Whats crazy is nobody knows exactly why this is happening

[mental yoke]

although isnt x870 only am5?

[lone mango]

What about zen 4 though

Seems to be all zen 5

[wise wigeon]

am5 is 600-800

[wise wigeon]

nothing posted about it

motherboards seem to still post when you swap them out

so they kinda just fry the cpu and still work

[lone mango]

That is so weird

[wise wigeon]

its all over the place with the different cases

this unlucky dude

[lone mango]

So it can fry your cpu, or just not post and a swap fixes it

[tranquil pebble]

asrock seems like something to avoid mobo wise for now

[lone mango]

damn bruh i need that lightning wifi

[storm umbra]

i googled it, the asrock mobo is a bios issue

they are working on fixing it apparently

im just gonna get a gigabyte board to be safe :))

[fresh timber]

lmfao

I GOT IT

[storm umbra]

HOW

[lone mango]

Has to be more to it though because even the new versions have still done it

[fresh timber]

BRO

[storm umbra]

explain

[fresh timber]

sign up to colleges even if ur not going and ur elgible for student discounts

[mental yoke]

dont commit fraud

or put it in written statements anyway

[storm umbra]

im in college

so can i get free prime?

[lone mango]

Unless its one of those scenarios where the fix didnt completely fix it because they are still in the process of fixing it, so they have to fix it again, hopefully completely that time

[fresh timber]

i might go to the college lmfao

im doing the process andeverything still

[fresh timber]

do u have an EDU email

i used mines and it worked

[acoustic palm]

9070xt 🤤

[lone mango]

For me amazon just asked my name, college and grad date and I have prime student

[fresh timber]

it didnt work for me so i had to use the email

im using it for one thing kek

[storm umbra]

it worked i literally clicked start trial

[fresh timber]

what should i get for r yzen

[wise wigeon]

not free

[fresh timber]

i can overcloc kit

[storm umbra]

it literally was

[fresh timber]

idk man seems pretty free to me

[storm umbra]

i just got it for free lmao

[fresh timber]

just be a student

[wise wigeon]

oh the 6 month

[fresh timber]

yes

[wise wigeon]

thought yall was talking about the reduced rates

[fresh timber]

im still in highschool LMFAOOOO

[sweet phoenix]

L

[fresh timber]

college gave me a email a little too soon

[mental yoke]

R

[fresh timber]

NOPOOO

I HAVE A MEETIONG WITH THE COLLEGE