general-chat

[storm narwhal]

open source, built on nvidia's game stream tech

[fresh timber]

whats cool is moonlight can do up to 500mbps if ur gpu supports it

[storm narwhal]

that's pretty much it

[wraith fern]

oop

[wraith fern]

oh nice

[fresh timber]

https://github.com/LizardByte/Sunshine i use this client

[wraith fern]

anyone here do any racing and have f1 24?

[fresh timber]

nvidias game streaming is a bit limited

[storm narwhal]

I think you've gotten it the other way around now

Moonlight is the client

Sunshine is the host in that case

[wraith fern]

[fresh timber]

yeah

host

this pc runs it

[storm narwhal]

You need to be clear on which is what or it gets confusing

[fresh timber]

your fine

you survive

[storm narwhal]

It's nice for remote gaming tho

Doesn't really work as a remote desktop replacement though on your phone

You'd want something like RustDesk for that

if you don't like google remote desktop

[wraith fern]

for college should i get a windows pc

[fresh timber]

im ngl, i use it on my phone too

[wraith fern]

if i plan to use my current pc then too

[fresh timber]

steam big picture

[storm narwhal]

yeah, with a controller

or a keyboard

[fresh timber]

yeah

why would i remote game on my phone and not use a controller

[storm narwhal]

That's not remote desktop that's gaming

[fresh timber]

technicly it is RDP

[storm narwhal]

remote desktop implies you're using it for productivity if remote gaming is a term

[fresh timber]

it can do touch screen i just checked

[storm narwhal]

yes i know

[fresh timber]

RDP is just a protocall sir

remote desktop protocall

[storm narwhal]

try typing multiple things out

having to move between different windows

[fresh timber]

why would i even do that with rust desk, might as well use a dekstop

or laptop

go on moonlight and fullscreen that mf and easy

[storm narwhal]

???

You're not understanding lol

moonlight is worse for that is my entire point

you can actually zoom in and type and scroll all without needing a keyboard or it being a hassle

on rustdesk

and you get to use ctrl, win, shift and all your modifier keys on rustdesk

all just from your phone

[storm umbra]

do you guys wanna see a oled test when i get it?

[dusk knot]

ofc ofc.

[storm umbra]

it will be with my laptops 3060ti since i dont have a pc yet

[dusk knot]

my monitior is about the same

[storm umbra]

it says it arrives on the 27th

[storm narwhal]

It's about the colors and the blacks

[dusk knot]

you will enjoy it

[storm narwhal]

and the insane response time

[storm umbra]

i have an oled nintendo switch

and its really pretty

so ur prob right

apprently its 0.03ms

which doesnt even comprehend in my mind

[dusk knot]

It's impossible to really imagine

All you have to know is that everything is lightning quick

[storm umbra]

watching 🟧 ⬛ would be so interesting with it... for scientific purposes ofc

[dusk knot]

And won't hold you back if you play competitive

[dusk knot]

🤨

[storm narwhal]

Orange is the new black is a weird test for color

[dusk knot]

Right

[storm umbra]

nah its my fav netflix show

def talking abt it

[dusk knot]

Idk....

Something doesn't feel right

[storm umbra]

JP do u like SteelSeries?

[dusk knot]

Never tried them

[storm umbra]

im a sucker for their products

[storm narwhal]

[storm umbra]

they make really good under 100 dollars keyboards and mice

[storm narwhal]

Always simp for models, not brands

[dusk knot]

Yeah

[storm umbra]

nah i simp for their brand

[storm narwhal]

If you're gonna simp over any product, that is

[storm umbra]

never disapointed me yet

[storm narwhal]

They will

Every brand releases bad products

Thermaltake makes the Smart line of PSUs

but they also make other great products

[storm umbra]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078LJ6RPK?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

this is my mouse

really love it

its not 100 dollars btw i got it for 50

its just out of stock rn i think

[nocturne merlin]

I think steelsteries makes the most overpriced garbage with some of their models, for example any headphone from arctis 5 to 7. also extremely bloated app, why would you need an aim trainer and valorant map along with your dpi settings

[storm umbra]

i honestly just know them for the keyboards and mice

wait i was reading ur story

lol

[fresh timber]

me find kids info

kid talk smack at school

[storm umbra]

umm lol

dont dox him

[fresh timber]

not donig that

[storm umbra]

kk haha

[fresh timber]

ima just text him mom a nic text about all the stuff he does in class

;))

i recently got him in big trouble for racism, idk his parents would llike to hear that

[storm umbra]

thats good

i f***ing hate racism

[fresh timber]

he like to say certin words to me relateing to my race

the school already made him sign a ciest and desist of harrasment twords me lmfao

[storm umbra]

lol like thatll do anything

kids like that dont gaf

i legit had to mute another computer chat i was in cus they were just straight up making muslim jokes and being racists to arabs

[fresh timber]

he got kicked out the program for next year lkmfao

we go to a vocational skool through our highschool, hes not welcome dback

[storm umbra]

i kinda felt like it was targeted but idk

[storm umbra]

danggg

deserved

[fresh timber]

hes finishing this year and never returning

[storm umbra]

good ridance

[fresh timber]

i technicly am not welcomed back.,.. but i graduate so doesnt matter

[storm umbra]

haha

congrats on graduating this year!

[fresh timber]

money

[storm umbra]

early congrats i guess

[fresh timber]

im using the funds to buy fun laptop

[storm umbra]

just make sure ur getting a good deal

i got f*** over with my laptop

[fresh timber]

i want funny dual screen, but wallet says get a nice oled one

[storm umbra]

oled is always good

[fresh timber]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-vivobook-s-14-oled-3k-120hz-laptop-copilot-pc-amd-ryzen-ai-9-365-with-24gb-ram-512gb-ssd-neutral-black/6593257.p?skuId=6593257 im just going to get this

[storm umbra]

better for eyes too

[fresh timber]

dual sceen does look appealing thooo

[storm umbra]

i would love to give advice but im not a laptop expert

[storm umbra]

i just avoid laptops atp

[fresh timber]

lol

[storm umbra]

especially for my gaming lifestyle

[fresh timber]

tldr, its asus but its a god laptop

[storm umbra]

the ram and cpu look really good

[fresh timber]

anywhere where its appoproate to play videogames, i can bring a pc with me

[storm umbra]

just hope it has good airflow

[fresh timber]

i bring my little gaming pc, slap some moonlight game streaming and now i got oled gaming

seriously tho, that oled is funna make me hate my monitors

[storm umbra]

since its using amd cpu actually u should be dealing with low temps

just be glad u dont have my current monitor

https://www.viziotech.com/tvs/10-26-vizio-e260mv-1080p-widescreen-edge-lit-razor-led-lcd-hdtv-169-200001-dynamic-5ms-2-hdmi-atscntsc-tuners.html

its an old tv we have had since i was 7

[elfin mural]

that vivobook is pretty cool

[fresh timber]

yuh

thats hwy im getting it

ima game stream off it too

[elfin mural]

the igpu itself can run games at 1080p at low settings

[fresh timber]

880m is good enough for 60% of my games anyways

i can get 120 in fortnite comp settings

[elfin mural]

all that on an oled panel

[fresh timber]

idk how marvel rivals will run it runs horrible on 780m

unless its fixed

[elfin mural]

i wish it was 1080p but

[fresh timber]

if its less than 60 ill just go on my desktop kek

[elfin mural]

oled is oled

[fresh timber]

why

theirs a reason its 3k

not a gaming focused device, and 1080p oleds are not really recommended it seems

[elfin mural]

you don't really need anything above 1080p in res on a laptop

but yeah i understand that

[fresh timber]

here why you need above 1080p for oled laptops

[mortal grail]

Any aussies in here today

[elfin mural]

oh

[fresh timber]

blah blah pixels dont look good blah blah

[elfin mural]

that makes sense

[fresh timber]

my oringal choice was 1080p but i saw that

[worn wave]

Text clarity is probably bad on 1080p OLED I'd guess

[mortal grail]

There's near msrp 9070XTs available for order if there were

[fresh timber]

it was a vivobook with a ai 9 370 32gb ram, 1tb ssd and a 60hz dislay at 1080p

rip bad display

[elfin mural]

60hz is sad

[fresh timber]

yeah..

id want 120hz atleast

idk any other laptops that are as good as vivobook with same or more ram at same price

i dont like going below 24gb, 16gb alr feels like too little

unless i use linux then im fine

[elfin mural]

esp with an igpu system

[fresh timber]

im using a 16gb system rn lmfaoooo

[elfin mural]

16gb is gonna run low very quickly

[fresh timber]

aint enough

[fresh timber]

yeah igpu can use up to 70% of the ram i think

or something around that

theirs vivobooks with core ultra but i think they suck

idk

i just know ryzen good

im just trying to stick to thin light, good performance, doesnt burn laptop and silly, and good connectivitiy, who knows egpu when

[elfin mural]

you need to look for 200V

if you want intel

those are wicked efficient and equipped with capable igpu

[proud jackal]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4wCmqSrbyCgxEXROQE6vtV?si=-mNnAD5_R6a7TlbfyJMusw

[fresh timber]

Are those the ones with the good igpus

Idk the difference between amd and intel mobile chip wise

I just know I’m probably going to run Linux after I play Fortnite and other silly on windows

I wanna have good performance in stuff like video editing, good battery life and good connectivity

Vivobook seems to fit all that for me

[elfin mural]

ye

those 200V core ultras are great

in all regards

they come in 16gb or 32gb configs

the ram is on the cpu substrate, so integrated

and very fast ram at that

iirc the ram is lpddr5x at 8533

[fresh timber]

If u can find 14-15 inch ones for $1200 24-32gb ram I’ll compare performance in gpu and cpu to ryzen

Intel has thunderbolt advantage

[elfin mural]

i'll try

[fresh timber]

I found https://www.walmart.com/ip/ASUS-Vivobook-S-14-14-WUXGA-OLED-PC-Laptop-Intel-Core-Ultra-7-32GB-RAM-1TB-SSD-Black-S5406/7447569796?wl13=844&selectedSellerId=0&wmlspartner=wlpa&gStoreCode=844&gQT=2

I think that cpu Isnsimilar to 365 ai 9 thingy

[chrome mirage]

There was a chunk of bone in my dominos pizza

[elfin mural]

that price, wow

[chrome mirage]

Guess next time I will have to specify boneless

[elfin mural]

yeah it's basically similar to the amd variant

[fresh timber]

Ima look at Apu performance

What I’m seeing is multicore is lower but other than that it might be same Apu wise

[elfin mural]

it does lose to amd but it's more efficient

[fresh timber]

How much

I’m still looking for display specs too lmfao

[elfin mural]

that display is 1200p

hm

60hz

yuck

the price is good but the screen is bad

[devout forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvaLLqgXEAs
Chat is this for real?

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpQsfDEUz1E

[devout forum]

Claim is that an undervolted 9070 XT is beating a 5080 in performance

[elfin mural]

actually seems to perform nearly identically to the 880m

a few fps apart

[fresh timber]

Yeah I’ll just keep ryzen on list, give me the lunar lake for $1000 and 3k display then we talk lmfao

[fresh timber]

That’s what I aw

I’m getting tires

[elfin mural]

yeah the laptop market is kinda spicy

just gotta get the best deal

[fresh timber]

Very good rn

Asus is killing it

They the best I found for a good price

[elfin mural]

that tends to be the case

[fresh timber]

I’ll give it a month and see how the market goes

New stuff

I’m tired gn foc

Fox

[elfin mural]

gn

[storm narwhal]

Its not claims it's true lmao

[devout forum]

ROFL

that's insane

[storm narwhal]

Its proven UV 9070xt is 5080

[devout forum]

I treated it as claims cuz I just saw the vid and was like

"Ain't no way"

[storm narwhal]

The clickbait thumbnail yerrrr

[devout forum]

But I mean when Derbauer says so it's pretty much there

[storm narwhal]

The information naaurr

[devout forum]

that's kind of insane

it's actually amazing

There is only one issue

[elfin mural]

beating 5080 is an exaggeration

but does it perform like it when uv'd?

yes

[devout forum]

Never-fricking-mind!

it's available cheaper than a used 4080 now

[storm narwhal]

For the low price of 4080 you can get a 5080

Truly, the more you buy the more you save

[dense locust]

But not all cards are the same

I doubt every card could do this

[devout forum]

@elfin mural XFX Magnetic cards are considered high-tier right?

[elfin mural]

yeah

among the top

[storm umbra]

what abt steel legend 9070xt

jus wondering

[elfin mural]

that's almost the lowest tier in terms of asrock's lineup iirc

second to challenger

[storm umbra]

zang

it will still be good tho i think

thats the one i got

[storm umbra]

where is their a list abt this stuff

[elfin mural]

not really no

i just know from looking at asrock's lineup

challenger is the one you don't want

steel legend is fine

[devout forum]

Tbf it's not a Mercury Magnetic, "only" a Quicksilver

But even that should be pretty good

[elfin mural]

they look the same

probably just a diff name but same line lol

[devout forum]

But do they perform the same?

[elfin mural]

no idea

but i'd say most likely

[devout forum]

I mean

[elfin mural]

nothing seems to have changed much

[devout forum]

It shouldn't be that much difference right?

[elfin mural]

i think so

there's virtually no visual difference

all the mercury adds seems to be rgb lighting

[devout forum]

It's 2 8pin tho

[devout forum]

Dunno if that's a big difference

[elfin mural]

ah power limit

fun

[devout forum]

Do they also do the thing where you can plug the card RGB into a 3pin header?

Like Sapphire does in their Nitro line

[elfin mural]

It has an rgb sync cable included

[devout forum]

Nice

That being said

[elfin mural]

The goal here is to UV, so the 2 8-pin shouldn't matter

[devout forum]

You don't want to keep pumping power into them, you'd rather UV for gains ye

And it's ROUGHLY MSRP-adjacent price so

It'd def work out

[elfin mural]

Not bad

The magnetic fans already sold me to it

tbh

The unboxing experience is unlike any other

You gotta install the fans lmao

[devout forum]

Oh yeah that's definitely cool

[elfin mural]

I love things like these

[devout forum]

And if you can get replacement parts like 3 to 5 years from now

It'd also be good for repairability

[elfin mural]

The rare innovation in gpu design

[devout forum]

Ikr?

[elfin mural]

Everyone needs to do this

[devout forum]

Guess I found my next GPU purchase lol

The upgrade from it would be a 4090 lol

Or a 5090 if I won the lottery

[elfin mural]

If you win the lottery you get a 5080

For none of the cost of that card

Okay not 5080 in RT, but that's expected

[devout forum]

One 5090 costs about the same as 3.5 9070 XTs

3 if it's a higher priced model

[dense locust]

the 5090 costs
You can buy a 5090?

[devout forum]

4 if MSRP 9070 XT

[devout forum]

There are some places that have stock of it

But it's like

Nice used car pricing

[dense locust]

Yeah eBay

[devout forum]

Oh no

[elfin mural]

A nice used car vs a 5090

Who would win

[devout forum]

Actual stores. With warranty

[devout forum]

Depends on which can be written off as a business expense lmao

[dense locust]

I hear the rtx outside is insane

Near lifelike

No smear

[elfin mural]

If you do work that uses a gpu

I guess that's valid

[dense locust]

My 5080 does work

[devout forum]

If you can tax write-off a 5090 as a business expense, you can buy the car too

[elfin mural]

lmao

[devout forum]

That's the hilarious part

[dense locust]

Photoshop is hard to run yaknow

[elfin mural]

Photoshop

[devout forum]

You can buy a car from the money you save doing tax write-off on a 5090

[elfin mural]

The ever crashing software made by adobe, yours truly

[dense locust]

I actually use csp more than photoshop now

[storm umbra]

do yall prefer qdoled or woled?

[elfin mural]

both are good

[dense locust]

Tandem oled

[devout forum]

QD is a tiny bit better overall IMO

[storm umbra]

tf is tandem oled

[devout forum]

But both are valid lol

[elfin mural]

two oled panels stacked on top of each other

it's lg tech

[devout forum]

WOLED has an advantage in brightness while QD-OLED has the edge with colors for the most part

[dense locust]

Does the iPad use lg displays

[elfin mural]

Wait it's actually 4 stack

Damn

[storm umbra]

i do agree but the only thing that is bad abt it, is reflective panel and if ur sensitive to bright light and eye straining (i am) its not a good option

[devout forum]

But both are already vastly superior to LCDs

[dense locust]

Don’t buy a screen
Wait 10 years for microled

[devout forum]

MiniLED is cool but it's kind of a cheap imitation of OLED

[elfin mural]

yes, the oleds

ipad pro m4 has the newest tandem oled panel

and it's so good

[dense locust]

Slimepad

[mortal grail]

I prefer to think of it as woah led

[elfin mural]

woah led

[storm umbra]

WOAH

https://tenor.com/view/look-holy-moly-omg-whoa-gif-22960590

[wispy valley]

Can sb help me witj mouses?

[topaz crown]

Hello @wispy valley! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[elfin mural]

ipad pro has 16gb ram??

insane

that's as much as my laptop

[storm narwhal]

Yeah

All macs also come with 16gb as a base too

[storm umbra]

do u need help getting a budget mouse

[topaz crown]

Hello @storm umbra! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[storm umbra]

i know a good one

[storm umbra]

dynegg im not stawppp

[dense locust]

Only if you get the 1tb ver

[storm narwhal]

They finally realized 8gb is not in fact 16gb

Crazy revelation

[dense locust]

[storm umbra]

11 inch is average right?

[elfin mural]

ah

[storm umbra]

asking for a friend

[elfin mural]

you have the 11 inch one, that one's not equipped with tandem oled

but it's got a normal oled instead

[dense locust]

No

All of them have it

[storm umbra]

https://www.gamestop.com/consoles-hardware/nintendo-switch/consoles/products/nintendo-switch---oled-model---the-legend-of-zelda-tears-of-the-kingdom-edition/393251.html?

i own this

it was worth every penny

[storm narwhal]

Until switch 2

[storm umbra]

lol

that sh** is gonna be like 600 dollars

[elfin mural]

hmm

[storm narwhal]

Hey no bypassing filters

Also idk if the 11in model has tandem OLED

[elfin mural]

oh right

i've just read apple's site

[storm narwhal]

Ah

[elfin mural]

so notebookcheck got it wrong

[opaque sedge]

Woah oled i thought they used mini leds for their macbooks and ipads

[elfin mural]

the ipad pros are oled

[opaque sedge]

Damn they better be pretty sure they are over a grand

[dense locust]

Default pro had 8gb of ram
1tb gives you 10core upgrade and 16gb ram

[elfin mural]

normal ipad without any air or mini name still has a non-laminated display

this is 2025

apple, please change that

[dense locust]

I have the 1tb

Low price of $1500

[elfin mural]

ipad 11 is slightly cheaper and has a16

than ipad 10

[storm narwhal]

Worth more $ per GB than actual gold?

[elfin mural]

but display is identical

i don't like the base ipad for this very reason

[storm umbra]

hmm https://www.ebay.com/itm/187037938632?

[elfin mural]

display tech as old as time

[storm umbra]

1100 to smell waifu card

i think good price tbh

[storm narwhal]

Base iPad is for poor people anyway obviously they don't put the good stuff on it

If you can't afford a mid/high range iPad? Get outta apples walled garden

[elfin mural]

it's just sad

[dense locust]

Why did they slap their eBay user on stock photos

[storm narwhal]

It really is

[elfin mural]

cuz samsung gives more for the same price

[storm narwhal]

Especially at the base unit

[dense locust]

Yeah but who buys a Samsung

[storm narwhal]

Woo boy does Samsung give a lot for the base unit

Comes with the damn pen for a start

[storm umbra]

idk tbh, claiming it as their own ig

[elfin mural]

might as well shell out more for the ipad mini

[dense locust]

Apple pretty much has the tablet market

[elfin mural]

if you're buying an ipad

interestingly apple lost the tablet market podium position in china

[dense locust]

I wouldn’t buy anything that’s 1. Scalped and 2. With no actual photos of the product

[storm narwhal]

Apple overall is losing its podium in China

[elfin mural]

real

[dense locust]

Everyone is losing the podium in china

[elfin mural]

and that's gonna hurt

[dense locust]

Besides china brands

[elfin mural]

for apple

cuz china is a big market

[dense locust]

Didn’t a Chinese brand copy iOS

[elfin mural]

oppo?

yeah

but tbh i don't care anymore, even samsung is copying ios lol

oneui 7's battery indicator is remarkably similar to apple

[devout forum]

Everyone's copying iOS and it's infuriating

[storm umbra]

someone please confirm with me what the best 850w psu is cus i was reccomended a lot yesterday and idk what to choose, this is what is on my cart currently. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CBQVP6SS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A2UXO5LPTDY3LN&psc=1

[devout forum]

Cuz I hate it

[elfin mural]

but i like ios battery indicator ngl

the newest one

it looks elegant

all while giving you adequate info

[dense locust]

Everyone is copying iOS
Besides Apple they are doing the opposite and making it worse

[devout forum]

I just really, REALLY don't like how Apple does things

Ye it's personal preference but I hate it

[dense locust]

The one with the battery number inside the icon?

[elfin mural]

yeah the pill with the number inside

[dense locust]

Is this a screenshot of the crop tool

[storm umbra]

was abt to ask the same thing

[elfin mural]

i took it from google

it was like that lmao

[storm umbra]

lol

[elfin mural]

it has a leaf and shield indicator too if you turn battery protection and battery saver on

[dense locust]

Time to make you have even more choices

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Apple’s looks more square

[storm umbra]

is the one i picked bad?

[dense locust]

The psu you picked is a rated on their site

[storm umbra]

what does Lacks semi-passive mode (but still quiet at idle) mean

[dense locust]

I assume it means the fan turns off at idle

So there is less noise

[tranquil pebble]

I personally go for A tier PSUs because I value a stable and reliable system highly

I also like to put power hungry GPUs in my system

[devout forum]

Now that is an actual price dilemma

9070 XT is brand new with full 3 year warranty, 4080 is used with a short "test guarantee"

It's really close ngl

[vast rivet]

Hey monkeys I wanted to ask how good is neweggs open box stuff

I just bought the case I wanted but it was only available in the open box version

So I’m kinda worried about what I’m getting here

And wait how come I’m getting conflicting details about it being able to be returned

On the website it says 30 days but on their “disclaimer” away from the normal product it says no returns

[mental yoke]

Losing all my comfort weight from my past relationship making me lose my butt too thank god

🙏

[tranquil pebble]

I would take the 9070 XT personally

warranty, and being a new card is a pretty good thing to have

[devout forum]

It's a question of warranty vs DLSS and nVidia software

Cuz it's no longer performance deficiency

Like yes DLSS transformer model is gud

But FSR4 will have it too lol

[tranquil pebble]

I know... and I personally learn more to warranty (and better Linux support)

up to you though ofc

[devout forum]

Holy oversized GPU Batman

That's a thicc boi

It wouldn't fit in any case I'd like

2000D maybe but like

I don't really like it

Ridge is super cool and it can fit a small 5090

But CPU cooling sucks in it lol

unless you forego having a full side panel and cut out a route for piping and use an external watercooling box

Sadly a 280mm can't dissipate like 800 watts of heat generation

400 watts seems to be the limit

So I CAN do a 4090 with a slight UV on it

[limber crane]

lol why does Wegg charge shipping for GPU's but to order a case they give free shipping

[mortal grail]

That's weird as hell if it's not third party

[devout forum]

Then again, putting a rad and pump-res combo would be
Iffy in a Ridge

Borderline impossible

[limber crane]

yeah, when i would do GPU orders they charge about $13 shipping, just ordered a $150 case and they shipped for free

surely shipping a case is far more costly than a single gpu

[mortal grail]

Be pushing it a bit but with the right fpi you can

[mortal grail]

I agree

[limber crane]

I got a reply from MODDIY support

[mortal grail]

How many awgs

[limber crane]

They use 18awg for PSU cables and 16AWG for the 12VHPWR

[mortal grail]

Yep that sounds right

Cablemod is the same

Only difference is you can make theirs longer

Lowkey for a big o11 makes sense

Though do you already own the o11? If not I'd maybe suggest against it

The air mini is easily the best model imo

It fits everything just as long as you can work with smaller radiators

Also extra fans and cheaper

Only o11 I haven't really used is the vision

[limber crane]

Most of the cables in the cablemod kit are actually quite lengthy

i wish it gave the length of the 12v

[mortal grail]

It does

60cm

It's right there

[limber crane]

oh duh

so yeah the cablemod kit is cheaper, to get these lengths you have to spend about $40 extra from MODDIY

[mortal grail]

That's not worth it imo

Cablemod quality is good enough

Try and shop on ebay as well

Used kits are a lot cheaper

[limber crane]

nah im never buying used cables lol

[mortal grail]

Often look perfectly fine

Eh

I've had pretty good luck with used cablemod

It costs like 60% more new here

My last kit I got from a pawn shop for like 30 usd

Full seasonic kit

It was "used" but I took it out of the battered box, absolutely flawless condition

That's the kit in my 4090 build rn

[limber crane]

it's unlikely i will need to use the PCIE_PWR1 connector on the motherboard right? just the CPU_PWR and ATX_PWR?

[mortal grail]

What motherboard

Actually

Before that

What's this pc being used for

[limber crane]

ideally gaming

[mortal grail]

Just gaming? 9800x3d?

[limber crane]

mmhm

[mortal grail]

You should reconsider the board then

All pcie supplement boards are overkill

A good b650 will perform identically to an x670e/x870

Sometimes way better due to memory layout

I'm guessing this is a high end x board

You could save a lot going down if it's not like an x670 gaming x v2

Think of it like this

Each class of board, is like a more expensive usb hub

You get more and more features

But if the core vrm is sufficient enough, the performance won't improve

Which is the case for a vast majority of AM5 motherboards

The chipset just determines what amount you can expect out of usb connectivity, the pcie speed on the board and that's about it

For just gaming you won't need anything over the top

What would convince me otherwise is if you got this board for sub 200

Cos then you did get something out of it

But paid little for it

https://www.techspot.com/guides/2901-amd-ryzen-x870-b850-b840-x670-b650-a620-motherboards/

Here's some digest info on what I mean

You'll be surprised. There are even A620 motherboards that run a 9950x perfectly fine

[unreal trail]

hi

[limber crane]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-funny-funny-look-gif-4850532509577233362

[mortal grail]

Boards in the bottom half in red near or over 100C aren't typically recommended

You'll notice some cinebench scores are listed. Essentially the scores are within margin of error if the board isn't overheating

[limber crane]

is cinebench a productivity benchmark test?

[mortal grail]

Go back like, 5 years? Buying the high end boards made sense cos you got actual power improvements

[mortal grail]

It's just a render test, but a valid one, since actual cpu performance is really only based on this and trace signal quality

Good signal quality means you can clock faster

[limber crane]

is it just a program you download for free?

[mortal grail]

This is why 2 ram slot boards tend to clock higher than all the others with ram

Ye

It's a benchmark

But the best test of a board's capacity to handle a cpu is by testing the raw power it can saturate

Just checking if it's supported on a motherboard website is a red herring

Cos it may work, but the board may not be built well enough to handle it

Good example of this, the B650 Prime

B650 Prime overheats with cpus over 65W

The vrm is built horribly and the heatsink is a tiny little piece of cheese honestly

Meanwhile an A620i Lightning, will handle a 9950X despite it being cheaper

Cos the vrm is sufficient and the heatsink is large

I guess an easier way to think about vrms is to look at it a bit like a gpu cooler?

The bigger the heatsink, the better

[tranquil pebble]

bruh that is horrid

[mortal grail]

And the more the vrm, the better as well, until there's enough

[mortal grail]

It literally does worse than some naked am5 boards

Lmao

And the main reason for that is the cooler on a naked board would be the stock am5 one usually, so they get enough air to work far better

It's actually incredible that the prime is still as bad as it is

[devout forum]

9800X3D and a 4090 on one loop would be about 600 right?

[mortal grail]

Bit more bit less

280 done right would handle that

[devout forum]

Intriguing

[limber crane]

I do like the MODDIY connector for the GPU more than cablemod's. I dunno why but the cablemod one looks sus to me

[devout forum]

So in theory it's plausible
5090 wouldn't tho

[mortal grail]

I've built a similar loop before, also suprim liquid exists

[devout forum]

Tru

It'd be a LAN box powerhouse

[mortal grail]

Thick 280 would

[devout forum]

Is there a single-slot waterblocked 4090?

[mortal grail]

Yes

[storm umbra]

Do psu come with the 2 8 pin cables i need for my 9070xt?

[devout forum]

Cuz if there is that'd be totally doable

OMG

That'd legit be insane

[mortal grail]

Alphacool ES FE WB

4090 FE

[devout forum]

CPU block-pump combo I assume?

[mortal grail]

As long as it's not a new msi one

[devout forum]

Cuz there ain't no place to put a pump-res combo

[mortal grail]

AGL and AGF are ok

[mortal grail]

EK only brand afaik that makes a good one

They're dying so snipe it quick

[devout forum]

Sad that TG doesn't have a delid AM5 block

That also has a pump place

Cuz it'd be perfect otherwise

[mortal grail]

You don't need to delid tho

[devout forum]

Fair, just the cool factor

[mortal grail]

Delid chips are just for benching memes

[devout forum]

Still

[mortal grail]

AM5 is ass with cold boot bug

[devout forum]

CPU block-pump combo would make sense
No res kinda makes me nervous tbf

I don't see a place to put a res in that thing

[mortal grail]

You don't need a res

Res is just nice to have

If the rad is highest that's the res

[devout forum]

It would absolutely have to be

Like considering where the mobo goes

Pump would be lowest point of the loop lol

Dunno how it'd be filled and drained tho

It'd be a pain in the butt

[mortal grail]

Pump just needs to be lower than the highest point

Doesn't need to be lowest

[devout forum]

Well here it would be

Rad would be the highest cuz it's right next to the GPU

[mortal grail]

You fill via the rad ports

[devout forum]

Actually there could be a slight issue

Considering the length of the FE 4090

Would there be actual airflow across the 280?

Or it's gonna get stonewalled by the waterblocked GPU

[mortal grail]

Idk without pictures

Here's the ES block

[devout forum]

I guess you can do pull with a
GPU < RAD < FANS
Orientation (airflow direction is the < sign)

Actually that'd be push

GPU < FANS < RAD

[mortal grail]

https://youtu.be/BZEfTVrhHs4

[devout forum]

Noctua IndustrialPPCs would be able to handle it methinks

[mortal grail]

You don't want those

[devout forum]

It'd be a BOLD setup

But it'd work out more than likely,

[mortal grail]

IPPCs are loud af

Go get p12 max or p14 max

In your region that's the meta

Otherwise superflower lcps

Superflower beats all

By a mile

[devout forum]

Fair enough

IPPCs are for emergencies lel

But yeah it's technically doable

[mortal grail]

Yeah they're as loud as sirens I agree

Lol

[devout forum]

I wonder how much the Alphacool block would cost

Probably a lot cuz it's enterprise

[mortal grail]

About 150-200usd iirc

[devout forum]

That+shipping+VAT would be like

Man that'd be line 350 bucks for getting it probably

[mortal grail]

Welcome to watercooling

[devout forum]

Yeah it's a longshot

[mortal grail]

You either buy it used for 5 dollars, a button and some lint

Or you buy it for 500+ and cry

Lol

Used 4090 blocks won't be cheap either

Cos new gen sucks ass people will be farming the scalped markets

Something like a 2080ti block tho would be pretty inexpensive rn

[devout forum]

I mean it's not actually that bad here https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/gpu-water-cooling/nvidia/13395-alphacool-es-geforce-rtx-4090-reference-design-with-backplate?currency=1

90 euros+shipping

I think that's because Alphacool is European

[mortal grail]

That sounds way better than I thought

[devout forum]

It is yes

[unreal trail]

free bobux for enlisting lol

[dusk knot]

:/

[devout forum]

Now this is pretty bad https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/gpu-water-cooling/nvidia/10262-alphacool-es-rtx-5090-reference-1-slot-design-with-backplate

300 euros for the 5090 version

[icy ore]

💀

[craggy shoal]

e

good morning weggers

lol

Man this chat is dead

It's 9:37. Why is everybody still asleep

[dusk knot]

Yes

[devout forum]

Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme Liquid Cooler Core 280
How does that sound?

[proud jackal]

new desk comes in today

[craggy shoal]

Which one did you get?

[proud jackal]

uplift v2

[devout forum]

Nevermind it might not be great

[dusk knot]

$600+ desk

[proud jackal]

more than that

[dusk knot]

$1000+?

😳

I see upwards to $3599 PLUS

[proud jackal]

ITS OK ITS MECHANICAL

[dusk knot]

How much did you spend, Theo?

[proud jackal]

with accessories

[dusk knot]

Oh...I was close

I thought you spent even more

[proud jackal]

15 year warranty

so its fine

[dusk knot]

It is.

Nice

That's a hefty enough desk to hold that massive 5090 in the future

[proud jackal]

my pc is on a side table

[dusk knot]

Oh

For all your anime figures

[proud jackal]

no

[dusk knot]

Lmao that was a fast no

[dusk knot]

Nice

What happened to the valorant build?

[storm narwhal]

It exploded

[proud jackal]

sacrificed to the pc gods

[craggy shoal]

theo_brands

[proud jackal]

fatal made that for me

[craggy shoal]

That's cool lol

[dusk knot]

Theo_sells

[proud jackal]

no

i gutted it

for this build

[dusk knot]

):

[nocturne merlin]

yo are the gigabyte pcb crack issues still around with the 40 series? gonna get a 4060 but dont know if i should pick the msi ventus or gigabyte eagle. the gigabyte has a 3 fan version for cheaper but if they're gonna refuse rma i'd rather not

[devout forum]

also I love how Reddit says "YOU NEED A MO-RA WITH A 5090!!!"

[proud jackal]

i need a 5090

[craggy shoal]

Don't we all

Just not for $2,000 $3,000

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-unveils-geforce-rtx-5080-apocalypse

Fitting name

[devout forum]

I mean

[craggy shoal]

All I needed to read

[devout forum]

Yeah something like a MO-RA IV 600 is definitely cool

But it is SO MUCH HASSLE

it kind of looks like a trophy truck cooling rad tho

[craggy shoal]

I mean at least it looks good

[rancid juniper]

Zotac making a good looking GPU: RARE

[craggy shoal]

💀

fr

I miss when they'd make small GPUs though

[rancid juniper]

For sure

[devout forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i53TxbCJ8S8
I mean look at this thing

wallmount it and you have an actual showstopper

[rancid juniper]

I remember rocking the one fan GTX 1060

[craggy shoal]

Man that's way back in the day lol

[rancid juniper]

I mean I bought and used it 2 years ago iirc

Lol

[craggy shoal]

Some people are probably still using a 1060 lol. "Yeah it can play games. I can't complain" (30 fps low settings. No DLSS)

[rancid juniper]

If it works...

[craggy shoal]

It's hard to blame them though 💀

[rancid juniper]

Those are true gamers tho

[frigid stag]

A friend of mine does

[rancid juniper]

Still finding enjoyment under garbage fps/resolution

[frigid stag]

He gets over 60. He just doesn’t play new triple a games

Lot of them aren’t worth playing anyway

[rancid juniper]

I just hope that my RX 7800 XT can last just like the GTX 1080ti did but I doubt that

Not because of power but of vram

[frigid stag]

Vram is fine

[dusk knot]

16gb?

[rancid juniper]

Yea

[nocturne merlin]

i mean, some people? i would say its a ton of people that still consider the 30 series brand new. with the entry level for every new generation being 10% better than the last it's hard to think about upgrading when 6 years ago or so you would get way more performance for the same price if you waited a year

[rancid juniper]

New games are slowly eating more of that

[dusk knot]

Why I don't see myself sticking with the 5080 that long.

[frigid stag]

If 16gb isn’t enough, at that point just play better games

If 1000$ gpus have 16gb it’s probably going to be fine

[rancid juniper]

Lol yea

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I'm saying. Like yeah I'll make fun of people who are still on a 1060 but it's still hard to blame them when a decent GPU nowadays is at least $550. The 1080 back in the day MSRP'd at $599.99

[rancid juniper]

There are plenty better made games out there

[frigid stag]

Devs try to at least make sure some people can play the game

Instead of just 4090/5090 owners

[dusk knot]

Don't know what to play tbh

Besides a handful

[rancid juniper]

Dude if I was making a game I would use my igpu as a metric

[frigid stag]

You can get a gpu that beats it for like 100 bucks

But if you don’t need it

Then it’s fine

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I mean 2070 Supers exist lol (probably not $100 but still. Cheaper than new options and a massive upgrade from a 1060)

[dusk knot]

@rancid juniper I'll be honest...the 5080 is mighty efficient. My room hardly heats up anymore

[rancid juniper]

U can add more efficiency on top with an undervolting curve

[nocturne merlin]

ngl im rocking a 980 ti while my main card is rma'd and i can genuinely play cs2, overwatch whatever lighter games with 100+ fps perfectly on medium/high, unless people need raytracing or new tech the games that need 4090s now and whatever arent worth it lol\

[dusk knot]

I think I don't need one

[rancid juniper]

Lol

Tis fine

[proud jackal]

i need it

[craggy shoal]

Yeah that 980 Ti was a powerhouse back in its day. You shouldn't have any issues running anything light even with that thing

Better than a 1060 that's for sure lolll

[nocturne merlin]

the example was for cs2, on overwatch on max i get like 200

[rancid juniper]

Why y'all think RX 580's are still being sold? These 2016 era cards are still capable

Heck 2014 minimum

[dusk knot]

Overwatch is dead

[craggy shoal]

Keep it that way lol

[dusk knot]

Stop thinking about the game

[rancid juniper]

Perks???

GrubHub perks

[dusk knot]

They're panicking over there at blizzard.

[nocturne merlin]

yeah but i dont think i can run dcs on my current card lol, still going back to 2018 titles is fun

[craggy shoal]

All these AAA gaming devs 😭 💀

[dusk knot]

What do you have atm?

[dusk knot]

Yep.......

Time to clean my dust bunny pc

[fresh timber]

I need cheap display adapter

[rancid juniper]

Gt 1030

[devout forum]

It can cool almost anything

[nocturne merlin]

980 ti

[fresh timber]

$10 cheaper than 570 but doesn’t need pcie powwe

[craggy shoal]

https://www.startech.com/en-us/display-video-adapters/usb32hdes

[fresh timber]

I was speaking in the sense of that’s what people do with those gpus

Also usb to display out requires drivers

Don’t think those work in bios and such

[craggy shoal]

I mean all GPUs require a driver lol (this USB-to-HDMI is technically a GPU iirc. Driver would automatically download via Windows Settings)

[fresh timber]

A gpu doesn’t need drivers, how els do they work in a driverless state like bios

[craggy shoal]

I mean

I guess we don't need drivers for anything I guess if that's the case lol

[fresh timber]

The a310 is the best one technically at $100

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116529210694?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[fresh timber]

Those are fine, it’s all about size restraints

A lot of people get the eco due to it being one slot tall and trying to cram it into computers that are not big enough for two slot cars

[nocturne merlin]

guys i just noticed this 😂

[fresh timber]

They manage to call the fastest cpu out bad

WHAT?????

[rancid juniper]

i noticed that they haven't reviewed the 9950x3d yet because they know they're cooked

LMFAO

[fresh timber]

8 core 9950x3d??

8 threads??

[nocturne merlin]

i mean thats a classic but exposing their spiel is worded too funny

[fresh timber]

How the hell can you call a 14900k faster

I understand you hate AMD but that’s obsurd

[nocturne merlin]

i mean userbenchmarks might have garbge opinions in every regard but intel does feel snappier on windows atleast since they're basically sponsored

game performance and yeah its not even funny

[fresh timber]

Lmfao what

My Intel and AMD system feel the same

Only difference being the fact one has faster and one is slower

@nocturne merlin do you also refuse to download amd64 apps

[silver sparrow]

I never noticed anything bad with amd in terms of it being less snappy than Intel

[nocturne merlin]

wdym im an amd user, last intel i had was 7th gen. i had a few opportunities to test out 11th and 12th gen intel and they are just more responsive with desktop activitiy in my opinion, even if they get destroyed by amd in every test

not saying to buy intel just cause of that lol

[sweet phoenix]

There are multiple things that contribute to that. Brand of cpu is not one of them.

[frigid stag]

12 more responsive than 7th gen?

[fresh timber]

Idk man, my Intel system can be more crappy than my AMD system dispite my Intel being a 13600kf and AMD being 5500

[frigid stag]

Intel CPU’s are more responsive. Don’t know about 9000 series though

[nocturne merlin]

no, im comparing it to 5700x, not comparing old intel to new intel

[fresh timber]

I think it’s down to your other parts of the system

[frigid stag]

Things just open faster

[nocturne merlin]

yeah this

[fresh timber]

Gg, that’s old

[frigid stag]

What about 7 vs 12th any difference?

In normal day to day use

[fresh timber]

Almost like storage, ram, and CPUs got faster

[frigid stag]

Amd users wish they could

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814963336915583036/1351507783958401065/RPReplay_Final1742294727.mov?ex=67dfe735&is=67de95b5&hm=858f740c891f72a6d7d8793ad39700aa2cd0921923d66f31810695c904d86857&

[nocturne merlin]

i mean like 11th gen isn't also on ddr4?

[frigid stag]

It is

[sweet phoenix]

Lmfao nothing opens this fast on my 13600k system

[nocturne merlin]

yeah so im comparing a decent amd cpu to a decent intel one

[sweet phoenix]

Multiple things contribute to that

[frigid stag]

This is older

[sweet phoenix]

Point in case...

[fresh timber]

But their old

[frigid stag]

It’s like newer doesn’t always mean faster

[sweet phoenix]

YES

[fresh timber]

Your 13600k sucks

[frigid stag]

9000 series amd feels great though I heard

I want a 9950x

[sweet phoenix]

Jesus christ it's like talking to a wall

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

I love my 13600kf cause my e cores don’t make cpu die

[nocturne merlin]

2022 is old?

[sweet phoenix]

I re enabled my e cores and haven't had many issues since

[fresh timber]

3 years ago, so yes

[sweet phoenix]

No more than usual anyways

[frigid stag]

But why isn’t it as fast as this video?

[fresh timber]

Oo

[frigid stag]

13th gen should be better

[fresh timber]

Wanna do a overclock race bacca, first to degrade win

[nocturne merlin]

depends on who you ask, i would say 2018 would be an old cpu

[frigid stag]

I disagree

[sweet phoenix]

Multiple things contribute to how fast things open and system responsiveness. Like I said four times

[fresh timber]

Bro I overclocked my ram to 4000 and it feels a lot more responsive

[frigid stag]

I think you have faster storage and ram so I doubt it’s that

[sweet phoenix]

I have 3200c16 ram and I have an hdd in my system

[fresh timber]

All you need is pcie gen 3 storage

[fresh timber]

Oh

Damn I beat you

[nocturne merlin]

from 3600?

[sweet phoenix]

Yes but having an hdd in your system slows things down overall

[fresh timber]

From 3200

[fresh timber]

???

[nocturne merlin]

what timings are you on lmao

[fresh timber]

If your using it for things sure

[sweet phoenix]

My ram was 3600c16 but I disabled the oc to try to figure out what was causing my instability

Never put it back

[fresh timber]

19 something something ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frigid stag]

If your programs are on it yea

[sweet phoenix]

Its not majorly

But having an hdd in your system can slow things down overall

[frigid stag]

I have one for mass storage

[fresh timber]

I know people with like a 10 hdds in their system lmfao

[nocturne merlin]

are your 3200 sticks like cl14 or what

[frigid stag]

None of my important things are on there

[fresh timber]

Nope, cl16,

[frigid stag]

It’s not bdie

[nocturne merlin]

oh

[frigid stag]

Well mine might be

[fresh timber]

I use Corsair

That’s all u need to know

[sweet phoenix]

I have rev E

[frigid stag]

But it’s not good bdie

[fresh timber]

Same!

[frigid stag]

It’s like 2833mts xmp

Basically bottom barrel

[frigid stag]

Though it should do 4000 according to what it says

[dusk knot]

upgrade PRONTO

[nocturne merlin]

it was temporary while waiting for rma money, ima get a 4060 on monday

[fresh timber]

I forgot to pack a hdmi

[wraith fern]

Pseudo das where the das is just your system

[mental yoke]

my gpu is hotter than yours

[unreal trail]

water

[velvet summit]

Those

[mental yoke]

plants

[sage sluice]

https://youtu.be/07JmdlRkQmE?si=Lc6VoavPMd3nWW4z

this looks like it's going to be peak holy

the budget has expanded exponentially

[fresh timber]

I’m an idiot

I forgot my keyboard and kiyse

Mouse

So I’m going to a store to buy new ones smh

I’m looking to see if my old keyboard is here

[mental yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/salt-salt-powerpuff-powerpuff-salty-powerpuff-girls-gif-25469224

[opaque sedge]

Oh common dammit

I just got a steam deck pretty recently

This always happens to me bruh

[mental yoke]

still the z1 tho?

[opaque sedge]

I get smth and a better alternative comes out soon

[devout forum]

looking around for fan options for the Ridge custom loop

[mental yoke]

does it atleast have the 860 instead of the 780 or w/e?

[devout forum]

It might get spicy

[opaque sedge]

Z1e is 780m i think

[mental yoke]

yea... meh

thats old now

i do wnt a legion go for the removeable controllers

actually thanks for reminding me

[acoustic palm]

Expensive

Damn

[fresh timber]

So

[acoustic palm]

I need a new mouse

Ngl

[fresh timber]

I’m going to Walmart rn lmfao

[acoustic palm]

What’s a decent mouse at a decent price

[fresh timber]

I’m getting what ever

My budget is $100 for both

[opaque sedge]

Well its that ram and storage tax

The 16 gig and 512gig version is closer to the deck oled in price i think

[acoustic palm]

Damn

[acoustic palm]

Still not as bad as apples tax

[fresh timber]

Easy mouse