general-chat

[storm umbra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Adamify/saved/#view=Fjgm3C

who wants to help make my motherboard and ram and ssd better

cus i keep getting info from a lot of ppl

different(very) info

[sweet phoenix]

Their ddr5 is just as bad, same issues with mixed dies and they lock PMIC voltage

Only brand that does that

[idle nexus]

whaaa

my 8gb Dell m-die doesn't even lock PMIC lmao

[sweet phoenix]

Gotta love corsair

[idle nexus]

some motherboards have PMIC unlock

like I know my Z690 Unify-X does

no idea on AMD platforms tbh

you can't change to the TeamGroup RAM for like $7?

[acoustic palm]

Idts

[idle nexus]

or is it $14 lol

derp

[acoustic palm]

I think it’s locked to that ram or the corsair

[storm umbra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcjRsY/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-flbd532g6400hc32adc01 is this bad

[idle nexus]

oh so you'd have to find out in-store?

I went here on the website

[acoustic palm]

Wait wtf

[idle nexus]

which one? lol

[storm umbra]

nitro+

i doubt i should be spending 190 dollars on a mobo

that just seems like burning money

[idle nexus]

you might have to manually drop the RAM to 6000 cuz 6400 might be hard to run. I dunno that there's anything wrong with that motherboard tbh

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

[storm umbra]

how do u manually drop ram

should i just get a 6000 one?

[idle nexus]

in BIOS you set the frequency

6000 would make it easier. You'd just enable XMP & it should work no problem

[storm umbra]

whats a good one u reccomend

for my gpu and cpu

[idle nexus]

you can build the bundle online & set it for pickup if the parts are in stock I think?

for ~$200, Asus TUF, MSI Tomahawk, Aorus Elite, or Asrock Lightning are pretty good. You could do B650 or B850. Let me check if there are any with particularly bad VRMs

[acoustic palm]

It’s not letting me choose ram

Idk how you got to that

[idle nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtHOOyWYiic

[storm umbra]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DGWQ128D/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

jesus

sorry

[idle nexus]

I clicked on this

[storm umbra]

is this a good one?https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DGWQ128D/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[acoustic palm]

If you select the ram the bundle goes away

I’m fine with the ram being off color ngl

If I super hate it white vinyl is cheap

[idle nexus]

where's my favorite Australian? He has these answers memorized @mortal grail

oh ya ig it does sorry

[acoustic palm]

Alg

Anyways I needa get to sleep

[idle nexus]

tbh I think it's kind of just a matter of preference. Like none of these boards is particularly bad or anything like that

[idle nexus]

sorry about that. I see what you mean now. It goes up to $552 or something if you break the bundle.

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/uOhs2qYis5Q

[honest birch]

On zen5 it's pretty much guaranteed to work at 6400

[mystic ruin]

@craggy shoal

[craggy shoal]

Yeah

Try it

[mystic ruin]

It glows too lol

[craggy shoal]

I need to make mine tighter

[mystic ruin]

This won't work for my radar

[mystic ruin]

Resin printers have tighter tolerances

@craggy shoal fits Damm good on that mount spot

[honest birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmOK0KWAEXw

[mystic ruin]

I'm not surprised

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[mystic ruin]

Forgot to mention this was finished a few days ago and I just forgot to get it out of the washing station lol

[tranquil pebble]

imagine eldritch horror in computer hardware form

oh wait that is just a MacBook

[lavish stag]

Anyone know why my case fans rpm is 0?

[honest birch]

Is it actually zero

Or not reading properly

[storm umbra]

lmao

"mrreliable-usa"

i wish this was fake

[tranquil pebble]

dGPUs practically don't exist anymore lol

[paper verge]

Yep igpus can handle em all

Funny enough my 14700k runs warzone at 120 fps

[tranquil pebble]

Pretty sure TSMC is the bottleneck rn

[nocturne merlin]

guys rx 7600 for 300$ or 4060 for 350$? paired with a 5600x for 1080p. eu prices so what can you do

[devout forum]

7900 XTX for 200 euros cheaper than a 4080 gud I believe?

[sinful blade]

Neither

[elfin mural]

get the 7600

they're about equal

so just go for the cheaper option

[sinful blade]

The 7600 is the better of the two in pricing there

[nocturne merlin]

not really an option ngl lol all there is for this price range, I guess arc b570 too

[elfin mural]

don't get arc unless you wanna cope with driver issues

[nocturne merlin]

what about dlss, last time I used fsr a year ago it was garbage

[sinful blade]

Just get the 7600

[sinful blade]

Using dlss, I go from 57~ frames on marvel rivals to averaging 130

[elfin mural]

I use dlss too, but honestly

I don't care myself

FSR has gotten good now

And if you wanna upscale all games, the solution is lossless scaling

That duck app you can get on steam

[nocturne merlin]

I had awful shimmering on a 6650xt only like 9 months ago, is it that much more competitive now

[elfin mural]

Yeah

[nocturne merlin]

not all, just some that may have awful performance

[elfin mural]

But you can force dlss 4 in dlss-enabled games if you choose the 4060

So that's a valid argument I suppose

FSR 3.2 hasn't been on many games yet

And that's the good version that's on par with dlss 4

[dense locust]

Lmao

[elfin mural]

4 usb ports

paltry

[tranquil pebble]

1 less usb port than my Orange Pi lol

[lucid bay]

Yo

Y’all here?

[tranquil pebble]

Maybe

[opaque sedge]

Oh it was pump based interesting

[hoary zodiac]

arccos supremacy

[tranquil pebble]

Neco Arc Cos

[south sapphire]

Can anyone tell what GPU Elon Musk uses? This was posted via his official X account

4060? Someone said Ventus

[mortal grail]

4060 ventus 2x white

Google

[acoustic palm]

wtf

Please tell me this is ai generated

😭

Pepe on a picture is crazy

Oh also what’s a good fan configuration

The case in getting has 10 fan slots, 3 for aio

https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-view-380-xl-tg-argb-mid-tower/p/11-133-563

And top or side mounted AIO

[limber crane]

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I have the same amount of fans and I am doing 6 intakes + 4 exhaust (1 back + 3 top aio exhaust)

should provide for a positive pressure, can always up the intake if you need further pressure

which may be necessary with how open air that case is

[acoustic palm]

I think you want even

But I’m wondering where to put everything

[limber crane]

I asked about that setup in the cooling channel and was told its fine

[acoustic palm]

Alr

[limber crane]

Since 3 banks of fans have 3, having 2 intake+1 exhaust right on top of each other would be weird

heat rises, so pulling fresh air in the front and bottom and having the exhausts push the air out and up should work

I just did a half-baked google search and found a dozen reddit threads saying 10 fans = top and back exhaust, all others intake

[acoustic palm]

Alr

[limber crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNcd-IGMj2c

This is a pretty stellar video on each case type

[acoustic palm]

Alr

Thanks

[limber crane]

lol i used to have a case like this, but the fan was on the glass side, was like 280mm or something

here it is actually lmao

an old thermaltake case

[acoustic palm]

I can’t find any videos on my specific case 😦

[limber crane]

its going to be 6 intake 4 exhaust, but feel free to wait for someone else to confirm

[acoustic palm]

How does that work

Aio on top?

[limber crane]

yes

[acoustic palm]

Oh

Then rhe side also exhaust, everything else intake?

[limber crane]

top and back exhaust, everything else intake

[acoustic palm]

That makes it

6 exhaust

[limber crane]

no it doesnt

[acoustic palm]

Unless I’m like naming where each thing is wrong

[limber crane]

then you achieve this level of flow

[craggy shoal]

Yeah. The cable just snapped. Super frustrating. Probably like a $50 fix though so not too bad

[acoustic palm]

Aio is intake?

Wait no

Nvm

Ok yeah I see

[limber crane]

if the aio is front mounted sure, but top is best

[acoustic palm]

I was misnaming

[limber crane]

the preinstalled fans come as 3 intake + 1 exhaust, further supporting the 6 intake 4 exhaust setup

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJXGGtIvFKM

1% lows absolutely demolishes the 5070ti rn

similar raster average fps perf

but 1% lows is much worse in the nvidia

weird, but it shows how bad nvidia fumbled with drivers for 50 series

not cherry picked

there's nvidia preferred games in it

and same pc

and on average in all the games, it performs worse in 1% lows

i'd say it's drivers

if afterburner causes stutters then it must happen in the radeon test too

so yeah

i'd point it to drivers being the culprit

it's odd tho

[craggy shoal]

Why not just OC using the drivers?

[elfin mural]

since nvidia is known as that reliable gpu company

and yet it's doing worse than radeon in drivers

im not gonna say nvidia is bad

it's just weird rn

[craggy shoal]

That's embarrassing

[elfin mural]

let's hope nvidia fixes that soon

[limber crane]

It's interesting because in most of the first wave of reviews the 5070ti beat the 9070 on most charts

[elfin mural]

it's either black screen or bad 1% lows

pick your poison

[limber crane]

its also interesting that the cpu load is almost doubled in a lot of his shots, with the XT its at 30% and with the 70ti its at 55%

[mortal grail]

Cos 572.xx is crap

Worst nvidia drivers in over 10 years

[limber crane]

cool cool cool, i didnt need this video today im tired of second guessing every piece of my build

[elfin mural]

im considering downgrading to an older branch

i get stutters in rdr2

it's kinda sad

[mortal grail]

I mean I lived through both, 572.xx affected every card down to 30 series with issues

Not even 2022 launch was THAT bad

[craggy shoal]

Could thing I haven't upgraded my GPU drivers in a couple months

[limber crane]

i dont know a lot about the data he's showing but the stutters are clearly visible in a lot of his comparisons, in addition to being 2-12% lower performance

i dunno yet, still waiting for MSI to ship it lmao

[elfin mural]

i mean

[limber crane]

i wonder if nvidia even cares about the state of their drivers, they seem to be entirely focused on AI based on that video GN did yesterday

[elfin mural]

locking the clocks is a bit redundant

[craggy shoal]

Bruh how are we supposed to play games if we can barely afford the parts to play our AAAA games that run like ass (even after our $1K GPU purchase) and the drivers don't work upon building the PC?

[elfin mural]

since it's not what a lot of people would do

not even i do that

[craggy shoal]

I’m about to be a console enthusiast because of this lol

[elfin mural]

cuz it's just annoying to have to set my gpu clocks

ik you can set it and forget it

but it's kinda silly

there's benefits ofc

like keeping performance consistent

[limber crane]

What's funny is he didn't even undervolt the 9070xt in his comparisons, that would probably make the 70ti look even worse

[elfin mural]

nvidia drivers cpu overhead is

i should say, pretty appalling

[limber crane]

patient gaming is the way. There's a reason this is true. You can establish a massive backlog and play older titles that have been updated and run better, then wait for new games to go on sale and pay less for what are likely overpriced games.

[frigid stag]

imagine using geforce experience

i have close to 0 overhead

profile inspector btfos again

[craggy shoal]

Still waiting for MW2R (Modern Warfare 2 Remastered) multiplayer

[limber crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQ8jF3I0Zw&t=752s

TBH I dont know much about it, all I have is what people have said here. I've seen some claim that a well UV/OC 70xt can match a 5080 in performance. Granted that's down to the silicon lottery

[elfin mural]

yeah

that's doable if you win the silicon lottery

[limber crane]

gross 🤣

[elfin mural]

but the 5080 can be oc'd too

though not by much

[craggy shoal]

I want the nostalgia lol. Idc about new CoD

I’m on Hell Let Loose now lol

[elfin mural]

nvidia is very restrictive with ocing without vbios swap

since 40 series

[limber crane]

thats one plus for the 70ti for me, undervolt/OC feels mandatory for the 70xt to me. I feel like I can just load my 70ti and call it a day and not fiddle with it

[frigid stag]

they just happen to be older games

[opaque sedge]

Bro… how tf did i end up here

[craggy shoal]

Nvidia: YOU CAN'T SWAP THE VBIOS THAT'S DANGEROUS AND NOT ALLOWED YOU CAN'T DO THAT

AMD: here's the vBIOS for our unlreleased 9080 XT

[opaque sedge]

Oh nvm he rescinded his cough request

[craggy shoal]

Cough request is crazy

[limber crane]

"The data shows that from January 2024 to December 2024, 67% of player hours on PC were spent on a game that was six or more years old", only 25% were playing games like Fortnite

[storm narwhal]

Fortnite is just the kids anyway and some adults

[craggy shoal]

At least they run decently

[storm narwhal]

Its not that popular

[opaque sedge]

Your bike’s pump seat couldn’t handle ur cough requests either

[storm narwhal]

But yeah at least fortnut runs somewhat well

[frigid stag]

does your warranty get void tho

if you use it

[frigid stag]

were they multiplayer games

[limber crane]

Patient gaming is becoming way more popular because modern day PC releases are trash

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I’m so mad about it. I just tried using it and it just snapped 💀

[limber crane]

7.1% of the total hours spent were on Counter-Strike: Global Offensive / Counter-Strike 2
6.4% were in League of Legends
6.2% were in Roblox
5.8% were in Dota 2
5.4% were in Fortnite

[frigid stag]

its one of the most played

[frigid stag]

what are the rest

[opaque sedge]

It couldn’t take it anymore poor thing

[craggy shoal]

I’m joking. AMD doesn't offer something like this. But they'd be the ones to do it if they did

[limber crane]

it doesnt give a full breakdown

[craggy shoal]

Bruh it's supposed to last forever wtf

[frigid stag]

usually the aibs do it

[storm narwhal]

Lasts 5 seconds instead

[frigid stag]

galax with that 1000w hof bios

or evga with the kingpin

[frigid stag]

works with 3090 btw

i need to power mod
my 2080

[limber crane]

lol that $900 XT hasnt sold out yet

[limber crane]

i use it cause im lazy af

[frigid stag]

ye fair enough

its what most people use

theres ways to reduce the driver overhead though

[limber crane]

i should probably learn how to do that if im gonna pay over msrp

[frigid stag]

if its a powerful enough pc i doubt it would be a huge difference

[limber crane]

will be a 9800x3d/5070ti

[frigid stag]

should be good imo

seeing so many reviews of these cards makes me want to buy one and see what its like

i dont really need one for the stuff i use my pc for though

[limber crane]

hopefully once my build is done i can stop thinking about gpus for awhile

[pliant berry]

Oh it’s never really done

[limber crane]

It's funny because I thought if I got a 70xt I'd always be second-guessing not getting a 70ti or 5080, and now I think I am going to second-guess the 70ti and wonder if I should've got the XT 😄

[acoustic palm]

I mean they’re about equal unless you decide to oc

[limber crane]

yeah, there's just videos like the one posted earlier that make me raise my eyebrow

and since I am not informed enough on the tech it's hard to extrapolate the truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJXGGtIvFKM

The vid in question

[acoustic palm]

What does it say

I’m in school I can’t watch it

[limber crane]

"1% lows absolutely demolishes the 5070ti rn
similar raster average fps perf
but 1% lows is much worse in the nvidia"

basically the 70ti stutters a lot and is 2-12% worse in FPS in the games used

Average chart for AMD for all games shown

Average for nvidia

some games have even worse stuttering

CPU load is also doubled in some games for nvidia compared to AMD

but we didn't see this kind of data in any of the major tech reviews when the 70xt launch so Im not entirely sure how to gauge it

there's a lot of hate farming with nvidia happening right now

the discussion earlier focused a lot on how much worse nvidia drivers are right now which likely is the cause of this kind of performance difference

[frigid stag]

imagine they actually tested with a cpu like the 14900k

And fast ram

[limber crane]

I hate Intel so I wouldn't know what difference it makes, my understanding is none of the intel chips come close to a 9800

[frigid stag]

not at all

14900k gaps the 7800x3d if you dont use slow ram

its up there

techtubers have no idea

and if its more cpu load, a higher core count cpu would be better

whether thats 7950x3d/9950x3d or i9

[limber crane]

ill pass on Intel lmao

or its just a worse chipset, there's a reason Intel has the rep it has now for CPUs

the only people left with anything good to say about intel cpus are loyalists

well, tons of people, sit in this channel for a day and see how many people come in here and say 'which X should I buy'

[wise wigeon]

Apparently there is a MSI afterburner setting that makes microstutters worse but idk if that's true

[limber crane]

the ram used in those tests is 7200/cl34 btw

the ram used for the ryzen cpus is 6000/cl30 lmao

[wise wigeon]

Yeah it's just like 70%+ of reviewers use afterburner

[limber crane]

what is afterburner used for again? OC?

[wise wigeon]

OC/UV, fan curve, monitoring

[limber crane]

Imagine paying $1600 for this eye sore

such a weird design on this one

[wise wigeon]

You see all those vids with bright green, orange, and blue stats? That's afterburner

[limber crane]

there's someone in the PCMasterRace Discord who has multipl 10k threadrippers

their wealth flexing in there is mega cringe

[wise wigeon]

There is always someone out there with more money than sense

[misty sparrow]

What do they use them for anyway

servers?

[limber crane]

theyre self-employed and use the LLC benefits to write off the cost

cost per frame makes intel look better, only a few cents difference

I believe it's AikoKiss who is "FOUNDER and CEO of Limeneer Labs
Open Sourced VR Hardware"

wonder how long this will sit out there, been up for almost a week

probably why no one is buying it

looks like the two $900 XT's finally sold out on Amazon

[wise wigeon]

people are desperate

i mean its not 2020 bad but

still damn bad

[sage sluice]

rage bait

[lucid bay]

this guy…

[fresh timber]

lol

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/pci-express-7-0-final-specs-draft-released-set-to-double-pcie-6-0-data-rate

we gettin pcie 7 before pcie 6!

[fresh timber]

We barley got gen 5

[rancid juniper]

gotta speed up

[limber crane]

number go up = good/better

[unreal trail]

credits for Assassins Creed Shadows is 2 hours long.

[rancid juniper]

imagine how long GTA 6 might get

[limber crane]

They already know they're doing it wrong

[limber crane]

they hired lawyers to go after people who "harass" them

[pliant berry]

well hey google started doing this

[limber crane]

https://www.comicbasics.com/ubisoft-has-reportedly-prepared-lawyers-anti-harassment-plan-for-assassins-creed-shadows-developers/

[dusk knot]

Cowards

[pliant berry]

I think the cut off was 1 or 2 years without any logins

[dusk knot]

Child behavior lol

[north crescent]

Wanna know why Ubi really sucks? Cuz they actively attack people that support them lol
https://fixupx.com/GiveMeBanHammer/status/1902361491309027345

Perma Banned (@[e-mail])

-be Ubisoft
︀︀-request a Vtuber to do a sponsored Assassin’s Creed Shadows stream, she agrees.
︀︀-Vtuber streams it, as agreed
︀︀-not long after, Vtuber gets banned on Twitch
︀︀-it was a complaint from Ubisoft that got her banned, because she “streamed it at the wrong time”
︀︀-turns out it was a Ubisoft mistake and they MISREAD the time, but they still blamed her for it anyway.
︀︀
︀︀Ubisoft, this is getting ridiculous. You sponsored someone…and now you got them BANNED for meeting their sponsorship obligations?
︀︀
︀︀All because someone in your staff can’t read the time properly. This is absolutely BAFFLING.
︀︀
︀︀Yeah, never accept a Ubisoft sponsorship…unless you want to roll a gacha with a chance of getting your channel banned.

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[dusk knot]

Hm

If the company dies, it dies

[limber crane]

there's a long list of why they suck

all their games are just copy+paste

because theyre a mega-corp ran by someone who doesnt know anything about games

and up until recently, gamers would buy any slop they make

[north crescent]

Making meh games is one thing. Actually ruining peoples career and livelyhood for no reason is another thing tho

[storm umbra]

broooo

im so annoyed

paypal is being a b**** and not refunding me and i cant even buy anything rn

[limber crane]

Only in recent years have gamers started to be more selective in what they buy

it used to be 'oh AAA release, lemme pre-order'

[dusk knot]

[limber crane]

It is funny how many Ubi defenders there are though

Ive had to ignore certain Discords because people genuinely try arguing Outlaws and Shadows are good games

[acoustic palm]

Outlaws is not good

[dusk knot]

:/

As a star wars fan, I refuse to play it

[acoustic palm]

My dad played it

It looked so bad

[limber crane]

I haven't paid attention to the AC franchise in a long time, but finding out there's battlepass and microtransactions in their single-player games is just megalul

[dusk knot]

Success @ancient hawk

[limber crane]

that's not a 5080ti

[dusk knot]

Not yet

The card is heavier than I imagined

[limber crane]

been watching people play Rise of the Ronin and it makes me want to buy it ngl

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DW4G95GG?aod=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJF4X3QDDEUEKC7FA&tag=nisteleol-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B0DW4G95GG&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

If you're looking for a $900 9070xt

[acoustic palm]

Ggs

I do like the fe box

But those prices are

[limber crane]

aren't the FE's the only cards sold at MSRP?

[acoustic palm]

I mean how does one get a gpu for msrp these days

Unless you’re like me and impulse buy

[limber crane]

have a microcenter or enter nvidia queue

or be in the top .01% who get through checkout on best buy

there's a few MSRP cards available from most of the models, but they're next to impossible to get

[acoustic palm]

Even microcenter doesn’t have msrp gpus rn

[limber crane]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZD6QV9L/?coliid=IVV0KNJQDGBWW&colid=4SO7IAPTOMWJ&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

This $900 70ti is in stock again from Amazon Germany, wont arrive till mid may lmao

Wegg still technically has some cards listed at MSRP, but I dont think theyll ever go in stock

[acoustic palm]

Gg

[dusk knot]

got it at MSRP

999 dollars

all the ROPs are there

[acoustic palm]

Dang

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-my-heart-omg-beautiful-relieved-gif-5511635

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/xxiisoul-thanos-gif-23843096

[acoustic palm]

Still expensive asf

[safe cape]

Congrats

[dusk knot]

eh. not like my 3080ti

[limber crane]

how do you even enter the geforce queue

[acoustic palm]

My entire 9070xt build is like 1150 😭

With my overspending on looks

[dusk knot]

rip. no PhysX

[acoustic palm]

Isn’t terraria 32 bit

[dusk knot]

No idea

[acoustic palm]

Damn

I’m so bored I hate math class

[limber crane]

yes

[acoustic palm]

Ok so then 50 series can’t even run terraria

😭

[limber crane]

wait really? that seems crazy to me

[acoustic palm]

Yeah 32 bit games don’t run on a 50 series gpu

Iirc it switches to the cpu only

[limber crane]

hmm that's kind of concerning

[dusk knot]

Welp. Soo long, physx

[misty sparrow]

Just keep the 3080ti in your pc for physx

[acoustic palm]

Well there’s nothing you can do to change it

[misty sparrow]

Modern problems require modern solutions

[limber crane]

i can get a 9070 instead lmao

[acoustic palm]

Like me

🙂

[dusk knot]

I have to sell it 😞

[limber crane]

i have to assume half my steam library wont be playable then

[acoustic palm]

Well

It’s playable

Just not on your gpu

I think

[storm umbra]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4770430&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-Combo.4770430-_-03202025 is this deal even gonna come back :((

it was here but now goneeee

[limber crane]

im surprised this is the first im hearing of this, i would think that would be a huge turnoff for a ton of people

[acoustic palm]

Why would you even wanna get that

It’s incredibly overpriced

[limber crane]

he's fomo'ing hard

[storm umbra]

its not a bad deal

[acoustic palm]

It is

[acoustic palm]

He’s huh

[storm umbra]

with current prices its actually good for the model

[acoustic palm]

Dude

The model won’t help you unless you’re incredibly into oc

😭

[dusk knot]

Let's see if this works.....

[acoustic palm]

There’s the OLED monitor deal

[storm umbra]

it will cost me 200 dollars more than the other deal

i already charted it all together

[acoustic palm]

And you get a OLED monitor

[storm umbra]

i dont have that much money

thats 2600 usd

[acoustic palm]

You’re getting the 9800x3d

[storm umbra]

yup

[acoustic palm]

You can down grade it to a 9700x

[storm umbra]

why would i downgrade

[limber crane]

fear of missing out

[acoustic palm]

OLED monitor and not overpaying for your gpu in the already terrible market

[acoustic palm]

Oh

[storm umbra]

how long do u think the deal is gonna last for the oled

[acoustic palm]

A decent bit

[storm umbra]

cus i cant even buy it yet cus of paypals bs

[limber crane]

those have been up for at least a week

[misty sparrow]

Why are you selling it

For the 5080?

[dusk knot]

To get money back

[limber crane]

sounds like you're stretching yourself thin if paypal is your only option

[dusk knot]

I always sell old hardware

*older

[limber crane]

Do you have a preferred method? Jawa? Ebay? Local/FB?

[tranquil pebble]

I hoard it

[storm umbra]

do u know a better option?

[dusk knot]

FB

[storm umbra]

cus i cant pay it all upfront

[acoustic palm]

I need to sell my pc on fbm

[dusk knot]

No coil whine ...good

[limber crane]

Depends on your situation, I am likely much older so my financial options are more plentiful. I can finance things many ways if necessary. I also have credit cards if I need to delay paying

[limber crane]

Id be curious how temps look too, I remember the FE's being particularly warm during the 3X series

[limber crane]

For instance my Amazon account gives me a 12 month interest free option as long as its paid off in those 12 months, so I can order a ton of stuff and just pay it off as I feel like

[dusk knot]

No higher than 60c

So far

Already applied an OC

[sweet phoenix]

Wb vram temps?

[dusk knot]

Ugh

Good question

[limber crane]

yeah that was my next question, curious how it compares to the 9070s

[dusk knot]

I'll have to turn that on in MSI

[acoustic palm]

Iirc uv + oc 9070xt = 5080

[limber crane]

think its dependent on your silicon lottery

[rigid sinew]

good morning and happy fridayy everyone!!! hope everyone has a great day today!

[storm umbra]

thx you too :))

[sweet phoenix]

I'm not :c I have oral thrush and a sinus infection

[limber crane]

same to you, even though i never get chosen for shuffle 💔

[storm umbra]

sounds hot

[dusk knot]

3114mhz on the core so far. Hm

[pliant berry]

today is just awful

[storm umbra]

lmao

[sweet phoenix]

If you want a yeast infection in your mouth sure

[dusk knot]

Gm, Naht

[storm umbra]

that sounds like a dream tbh

[rigid sinew]

if i was the creator of the shuffle, i would choose you all

[rigid sinew]

good morning jp

[limber crane]

even theo?

[rigid sinew]

even theo

[limber crane]

jar that yeast and make some beer

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-shima-rin-gif-19870064

[dusk knot]

345 watt peak in timespy. Don't care

[mental yoke]

hello

[limber crane]

so what exactly are you doing? doing a loan/credit card via paypal?

[storm umbra]

yea

[limber crane]

will it have interest?

[storm umbra]

i was using paypal credit

not if i pay it back in 6 month

[limber crane]

ok thats not too bad, if there was interest that would be bad

[storm umbra]

but i screwed up the order and now i have to wait for the refund

[limber crane]

ive used the paypal no interest stuff before

[pliant berry]

idk my opinion is if you have to use credit you probably should hold off buying an item

[mental yoke]

have to use is the key word there

[storm umbra]

the only reason im using it is cus imma have the money in april

[mental yoke]

words*

[lone mango]

[storm umbra]

but idk how well the market is gonna last

[limber crane]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DW4H333L?aod=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAJF4X3QDDEUEKC7FA

$870 70XT

[mental yoke]

wait till april

[acoustic palm]

Goddamn

[limber crane]

I use it to maintain credit score and just pay it off as soon as the transactions post, or if its interest free, do it as a please

[dusk knot]

350 to core and 2000 to memory at 108 percebt power limit. i think i can push it more

[mental yoke]

ive had items ive ordered off newegg arrive in amazon packaging but i still refuse tob uy gpus off amazon

[pliant berry]

I only really split a payment once across 4 months, I still had the money for it at the time but thought I'd try it out. annoying having an extra few hundred in expenses a month

[limber crane]

I paid off 2 of my 6 student loans and my credit score went down, its an amazing system we have

gotta stay in debt to be eligible to get more debt

[mental yoke]

i doubt it

[lone mango]

I plan to stop using credit cards in the future

[mental yoke]

grats

[limber crane]

Thankfully I am still above 815, having a mortgage keeps it pretty steady, but I lost like 6 points after paying off those 2 loans

[mental yoke]

discussing credit scores above 815 is dumb yea 👍

[pliant berry]

using credit cards is fine as long as you use correctly. also id much rather replace a credit card then a debit card in the event I get fraudulent charges.

[mental yoke]

yep

[limber crane]

feel free to not discuss it then 👍

[mental yoke]

im not

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah our debt system is insane

[limber crane]

gotta keep the people working

[sweet phoenix]

Yep

[mental yoke]

get to work plz :whip:

[sweet phoenix]

Who else will keep the billionaires rich

[storm umbra]

is overclocking even worth it now adays?

[mental yoke]

no

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

[sweet phoenix]

Gpu and ram oc can be

[limber crane]

the two cards i use also have cash back benefits, like 3% on dining, 5% on gas, 1.5% on everything, it adds up pretty quick.

[sweet phoenix]

Cpu to a lesser degree most of the time

[pliant berry]

yeah having cash back is nice as well

[limber crane]

Chase offers discounts and cash back on travel if you book through them, but their options are sorta limited

[mental yoke]

all banks have specific cards for doing things

[pliant berry]

that's usually how it is with travel benefits ye

[limber crane]

my parents like using the ones with flight benefits

[mental yoke]

if u want a travel card u search for a travel card

[limber crane]

but i hate flying

[mental yoke]

flying is a lot nicer when its ur own air craft and own skills of piloting

[limber crane]

yeah im not rich or willing to learn that lol

[storm umbra]

imma apply for work study so i can just get the oled and the x3d

[limber crane]

lmao

[storm umbra]

it will suck to work while doing school but i gotta do it lmao

[limber crane]

might be the worst fomo ive seen yet 😄

[storm umbra]

lmao

[dusk knot]

+400 is a stable...damn

Time to play some games

[rancid juniper]

@dusk knot 5080 news?

[rancid juniper]

😲

[storm umbra]

nice!

[dusk knot]

Don't mind the dust

[rancid juniper]

Yoooo let's goooo

[acoustic palm]

Nice

[storm umbra]

im minding the dust

[dusk knot]

):

[acoustic palm]

That mismatched rgb tho…

😭

[limber crane]

is the power connector angled or are the cords very tight? or both?

[rancid juniper]

Also, Air cooling supremacy

[pliant berry]

anything is possible with dedication. I've gone through most of college with several jobs

[dusk knot]

yes. no worries of AIo failing and killing my CPU

[acoustic palm]

Aios look nice and barely cost more

[rancid juniper]

Fr

[lucid bay]

The first thing I noticed was the AIR COOLER?!!

[rancid juniper]

Don't like faulty pumps

You'll never know when they'll leak

[dusk knot]

i think im less than a 1000 points from a stock 4090

[storm umbra]

oh s**tttt

i found a job where i get to do gardening

lol

19 an hour

[rancid juniper]

You overclocked it?

[lucid bay]

A gardening store?

[dusk knot]

yeah

[dusk knot]

yes

[storm umbra]

no its for my college

[mental yoke]

looks cute

[dusk knot]

no u

[mental yoke]

😊

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-mgr-peak-clapping-gif-2290004513522355791

[limber crane]

is there a bottleneck with the 5800 at all?

[rancid juniper]

5800x3d + 5080 hmmm

[storm umbra]

19 hours per week too

das pretty good

[limber crane]

i dont know much about that stuff so genuinely curious

[dusk knot]

nice combo name wise lol

[rancid juniper]

Bottleneck is present at 1080p maybe 1440p in some games, though not 4k I presume

[dusk knot]

next upgrade is my cpu

[rancid juniper]

Just a guess

[dusk knot]

10900x3d

[acoustic palm]

Real

Amd will probably not go into that naming scheme ngl

[storm umbra]

i personally am going for 3249832x3d

it will cost an arm and a leg tho

[limber crane]

you cant afford that most likely 😉

[rancid juniper]

Try running cyberpunk with PT @dusk knot

[storm umbra]

nah ill just give them my arm and leg

[limber crane]

youll need a credit limit increase

[acoustic palm]

I’m gonna try that with my 9070xt

[storm umbra]

i actually have an excellent credit score :))

im pretty happy abt it

[lone mango]

11950x3d to avoid b770 overhead

[rancid juniper]

15fps gaming

✅

[limber crane]

its not just credit score, it's also tied to annual income

[dusk knot]

oh right

[storm umbra]

true true

[limber crane]

still curious about your vram temps

[rancid juniper]

Imagine if the b770 needed a freaking 9950x3d to run properly

[dusk knot]

give me a min

[lone mango]

It needs more

[rancid juniper]

Unreleased $5k cpu

[limber crane]

just buy a threadripper, easy 10k no big deal

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[lone mango]

If you need a 9800x3d to get the most out of a b580 you probably need a cpu 2 gens ahead for it

[limber crane]

half a new car for a cpu

[lone mango]

Idk why this has not been fixed yet

[rancid juniper]

I wonder if Intel is ironing out all those overhead issues before they announce the b770

Because it can get worse if they don't

[sweet phoenix]

We need something to fix the low-mid end market rn

[rancid juniper]

It's been lackluster lately

[sweet phoenix]

I miss the $300-330 6700xt

[limber crane]

Will that price range ever exist again though? I feel like this is the cheapest GPUs will ever be again

[pliant berry]

disregarding overhead, idk if you can even find those cards anywhere

[sweet phoenix]

7600 at $250 wasn't terrible but I really try to recc 10gb+ cards atp

[rancid juniper]

B580s mostly are a rarity

They got no inventory

🗿

[sweet phoenix]

Cheapest is $333 right now

[dusk knot]

how to see VRAM temp with MSI afterburner???

[sweet phoenix]

Nvm fake seller

[sweet phoenix]

Hwinfo64

[limber crane]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9060-series-officially-launching-next-quarter

This might be the next option for low-mid

[dusk knot]

oh

[rancid juniper]

Watch it sell around 200 units

[limber crane]

there's also the 5060, but <insert nvidia meme/joke/insult> here

[rancid juniper]

Ngreedai with the 5050/60 series

[sweet phoenix]

I doubt it'll even match the 3060 ti

If it does and it's $300 or less, fantastic

[limber crane]

I feel like these days you have to save and pay $700+ or buy used

[sweet phoenix]

Yep

Used is the best choice atm

[dusk knot]

will do temps later

[rancid juniper]

5060 ATP in a different timeline supposed to do better than a 4070

[limber crane]

yeah if the 5060 has the same performance margin to whatever the lowest 4X card is, itll be pretty bad

[sinful blade]

Whoever got mine for $200 was lucky

[lone mango]

Sub 400, so I guess 380 and 300

Is what they cost

[rancid juniper]

Still can't make a consumer 75w card to be the successor to GTX 1650

[limber crane]

Remember the mining cards they released during the 3x series lol

[lone mango]

Lhr

[lone mango]

Maybe 9050

[rancid juniper]

Doubt

[tranquil pebble]

1650 successor is called an iGPU

[rancid juniper]

No this can't be

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

I need that 75w dgpu fix

[sinful blade]

Go get a 8500g

Worst mistake of my life

[lone mango]

I think it could. 9060 xt has one 8 pin

[tranquil pebble]

Ryzen 11 when?

[sweet phoenix]

Yesterday

[rancid juniper]

RX 9050 gonna be slower than a 6600xt

[lone mango]

If they add this when zen 6 comes out

[mental yoke]

...?

[mental yoke]

4010 lol

[sweet phoenix]

Wtf

[mental yoke]

is it half slot slim atleast?

igpus beat that i dont get it

[dusk knot]

I hear slight coil whine. Tsk

Retuning it.

[mental yoke]

do it

[lone mango]

Man you should hear my card

[mental yoke]

maybe we can cop it on a discount open box

[sweet phoenix]

I thought you said returning it lol

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/bfwLIopmVhg?si=xJ048kWN_fQ5ExWz

[storm narwhal]

The RTX 4 what??

[lone mango]

Damn I read it wrong too

[pliant berry]

you should hear my hard drives

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

RT 4010 🔥

[storm narwhal]

TX 4010

because it's definitely not tracing any rays

That's wild though wtf even is that thing

[rancid juniper]

Apparently it's a renamed A400 card

[mental yoke]

china do be making some fun stuff with all dem factories :fun:

[storm umbra]

what is the lowest price pc case for 9070xt

oops

didnt mean to reply

but if anyone knows please lmk

[dusk knot]

only 50c in rivals...damn

[storm narwhal]

Cardboard box case

[rancid juniper]

Fr, they be making the wildest tech mods

[storm narwhal]

Couple bucks maybe

[mental yoke]

i would too

[storm narwhal]

But a LOT of time invested

[lone mango]

[acoustic palm]

It can get 60 with a 9800x3d

[dusk knot]

240fps all the time now.

Great

[storm narwhal]

Those mfs who made the tank for world of tanks

[lone mango]

Will I notice going down from 240 to 180

Probably not

[mental yoke]

a two fan config will have more surface area over the totality of the radiatior i think then a single 180

im actually not sure if thats what u were talking about tho

[storm umbra]

is this good?

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00CN-00060

[sweet phoenix]

Yes it's solid

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

[dusk knot]

Looks like I'm CPU limited in rivals 😔

[rancid juniper]

I remember that, one of the funniest videos

[acoustic palm]

What did you expect 😭

[dusk knot]

😂

[storm narwhal]

At least you got the X cpu

[rancid juniper]

Nice

[dusk knot]

I still see fps dips

Smh

Below 240

[mental yoke]

latency

[acoustic palm]

But I obv won’t get that lmao

[dusk knot]

I haven't tried fram gen..later

Need to go to work

....

[acoustic palm]

So ray tracing I’ll try

[mental yoke]

trying online games meh

do a benchmark without any network regard

[acoustic palm]

Wha

[limber crane]

did you just TOS skirt by using regard?

and directly to a mod lmao

[dusk knot]

I can feel the slight lag in 2x MFG

It's a bit disorienting

[limber crane]

some of these bundles are crazy, feels like if they were more lucrative theyd be more popular/less criticized

who's buying a full set of MSI peripherals lol

[sweet phoenix]

@storm umbra
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4765156&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-Combo.4765156-_-03212025

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4765158&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-Combo.4765158-_-03212025

[storm umbra]

750w?

[sweet phoenix]

350w gpu

[limber crane]

crazy, they raised those bundles by $60-80 already

seems like more than half their new shipments of gpus are going to these bundles

[storm umbra]

i thought the gpu needed more than 350w?

[sweet phoenix]

No, it is a 350w gpu

[storm umbra]

What abt the amd 7 9800x3d?

[sweet phoenix]

9800x3d is a 120w cpu, 470w between the two leaves plenty for the rest of the system, but there's one with an 850w psu if you want

[limber crane]

didn't some reviews mention 420w spikes?

[mystic ruin]

Breakfast and a game

[sweet phoenix]

Power spikes are normal, and any A tier psu can handle power spikes beyond their rated wattage

[limber crane]

based dennys

i havent had dennys in like 10 or 12 years sadly

[mystic ruin]

It's good

[limber crane]

there was some cringe stuff with dennys and nvidia at their conference the other day

[sweet phoenix]

The Dennys near me closed

I was very sad, all we have is ihop and between rounds now

[mystic ruin]

My breakfast came faster than expected so I couldn't play

[limber crane]

closest one we have is 1+ hour away, our ihop closed a few years ago

we do have a 24 hour diner owned by a local person, its close to dennys but not the same

[sweet phoenix]

Ihop is so mediocre

[storm umbra]

isnt the pulse the best for price?

i heard its the best gpu from the 9070xt

[sweet phoenix]

At msrps sure

[limber crane]

it can have slightly high vram temps, but that's fairly easy to solve

[sweet phoenix]

I wish we had waffle house up here

[storm umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-waffle-house-bongo-waffle-bongo-wh-ihop-gif-25931969

[limber crane]

i havent lived in a state with one in almost 20 years, ashamed to admit ive never been to a waffle house

[storm umbra]

i like dennys and ihop

ihop steak omelette

so good

[limber crane]

but i cant eat that kinda food anymore anyway, like pancakes and waffles and syrups and what not

[sweet phoenix]

I always get the vibe you're in your like 20s

[limber crane]

lol that doesnt bode well for me

[sweet phoenix]

You've said you're not multiple times and I forget each time

[limber crane]

i dont turn on my adult brain unless i have to, ive been perpetually online for 25 years so i dont act like my age very often

what's funny is while im talking in here this morning im also going back in forth via emails with the CIO of the place i work, so thats another reason why because i have to be serious for work

[mystic ruin]

[mystic ruin]

I wanted pancakes not waffles

[limber crane]

Some hardware unboxed power consumption numbers

Seems higher than 350w to me

unless i am misunderstanding the data

[lone mango]

4070 super performance and 4070 super power draw

Welcome back 4070 super

[limber crane]

"TLDW;

The power draw on the 9070XT was identical to the 7900XT (79W more than the 5070Ti).

And the vanilla 9070 was identical to the 4080 Super (43W more than the 5070)."

[velvet summit]

oo weee uuuuu i look just like buddy holly

oh oh and you're mary tyler moore

i don't care what they say about us anyways

i don't care bout that

[limber crane]

@dusk knot Was your 5080 through the priority queue?

[wise wigeon]

what the

[mental yoke]

dont question yrag

[wise wigeon]

60 more than what i paid for 2 weeks ago is wild

[honest birch]

dennys sucks

[dusk knot]

Yes

[sinful blade]

Real

[honest birch]

Bob Evans good asf

[wise wigeon]

wanted to see if i could get my free birthday slam today, no dice

[honest birch]

same with First Watch

bruh i cant even say simple profanity

what is this?

roblox?

[limber crane]

How long did it take?

[limber crane]

just find a way to TOS skirt like the genius above

[dusk knot]

I got the card from a friend here lol. It only took him a few days lol

[storm umbra]

which psu is better https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm850-cp-9020232-na-850-w-80-plus-gold-certified/p/N82E16817139278?Item=N82E16817139278 https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-850-w/p/N82E16817139333?Item=N82E16817139333

[wise wigeon]

yah see this is what I meant when I had to pull that trigger on the bundle 2 weeks ago

[honest birch]

i k i just forget and its annoying

[honest birch]

rmx

but why?

thats overpriced

my rm1000x was that much

[wise wigeon]

prob debating bundles

[honest birch]

and ur paying that much for an 850?

[wise wigeon]

you got a good sale

[limber crane]

me too, but it's a "business discord" so to some degree I get it

[limber crane]

nice

[wise wigeon]

rm1000x is 180 on good days and the full 190 on bad ones

[limber crane]

yeah fomo is a crazy drug

[wise wigeon]

i mean same bundle jumped 60 bucks 2 weeks later

[limber crane]

yep

many of us said the prices would only keep going up

[wise wigeon]

730 is the upper limit of 9070xts for me

[limber crane]

i regret not keeping the 9070 xt's i had at $750 that are now $850+

[wise wigeon]

any higher and might as well go for the 70 ti

[frigid stag]

wow i missed a nice deal then on one

couldve got one for 150

[limber crane]

AMD can say theyll work to keep the price low all the want, the AIB's arent going to listen if they lose money

[frigid stag]

i want a hx 1000

tbh even 850w would be fine

[limber crane]

and they have no control over retailers like Wegg, Amazon and B&H

B&H has like 70-80% markup on most cards

[frigid stag]

or another evga situation will happen

aibs quitting from low profits

[limber crane]

yep

and multiple retailers have already said they cannot afford to sell these cards at MSRP

[frigid stag]

well there was more to it than that but still

they should start letting aibs add more features to cards like extra vram

like back in the day

[limber crane]

if they set realistic price expecations i dont think people would mind, but it seems clear the $600 msrp was never a reality (past the initial launch at Microcenters), they shouldve just said $675 or 700

[wise wigeon]

thing i find hypocritical is people blaming nvidia when the AIB prices are high but going all "MSRP is just the suggested price!" for AMD

[honest birch]

i mean you cant even say a s s

its like roblox level of censoring

[wise wigeon]

like yeah 50 series was a doodoo ass launch but

[limber crane]

the tribalists go to great lengths

[limber crane]

@honest birch I think it might be level based since Yrag just said it

[sweet phoenix]

Prices could come down in a few months

[honest birch]

at microcenter yes, but a good 850w only $100, not $140

[sweet phoenix]

Or they could go higher with tarrifs

[wise wigeon]

nah ass isnt censored

[sweet phoenix]

Ass

[frigid stag]

you can say ass

[limber crane]

I think tariffs are being overblown

[frigid stag]

😎

[honest birch]

lol

[wise wigeon]

its an excuse for companies

[limber crane]

mods didnt react to skirting a derogatory term so its interesting the rules here

[sweet phoenix]

Newegg confirmed within weeks of 50 series launch that the msrp rise was because of tarrifs

[limber crane]

its highly unlikely to happen over some swear words but the server could get closed or something with enough reports so im sure they want to keep it pretty PG here where possible

[sweet phoenix]

Ok i have to drive, peace

[wise wigeon]

eh rmx is like incredibly overbuilt and its easier to get in store

[limber crane]

there's no way to really confirm this though, nvidia lies quite a lot

[honest birch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TnCZxr/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii1000g-bkcus

[wise wigeon]

but yes c1000 is around 140

core reactor is about 130

[frigid stag]

can the 850 handle over the rated wattage

[wise wigeon]

drops to 120 sometimes

[storm umbra]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CT3Z4HFH?

is this a good psu

[honest birch]

zillion 1250W is $140, superflower got good prices

[honest birch]

mid

[sweet phoenix]

C tier

[wise wigeon]

uh thats part of atx 3.0 and 3.1 standard bud

[honest birch]

not bad but not good

[limber crane]

i like MSI but not for PSUs

[storm umbra]

what makes it not good

[honest birch]

@storm umbra

[frigid stag]

no i mean like if the pc is drawing 900 at one point can it handle it

[honest birch]

the platform, protections, build quality

all other factors, emi, ripple etc

its a lot

[limber crane]

What I paid for an EVGA 1000 5 years ago

[honest birch]

insane

zillion 1250W is $140

[limber crane]

only halfway through my warranty lmao

[frigid stag]

where do you find info on emi on psus

[storm umbra]

does this work with 9800x3d and 9070xt

[honest birch]

only in depth reviews, but most if not all low tier psus just radiate EMI

[frigid stag]

iirc the 2021 rm850x was worse for noise and some other things, dunno if the 2023 is any better

[honest birch]

well yeah

[limber crane]

how many times have you changed your build list? must be a few hundred times at this rate lol

[storm umbra]

just checking

[storm umbra]

yup

[wise wigeon]

if it passes the standard atx 3.0 and beyond are rated to handle spikes of 200% the rated power

[honest birch]

could we stop now?

[limber crane]

you can find an argument for and against just about every possible component, eventually you just have to lock-in and stop changing it

[wise wigeon]

thought that was the rme

[storm umbra]

i would love to but i keep getting different info from diff ppl

[frigid stag]

so i need the atx 3 version if i dont have a 40 series or newer card?

[honest birch]

just get whats good for the price and performs well

[frigid stag]

ye thats even worse for the fan noise

[limber crane]

you've been given a ton of options for every component then a few hours later come back with a whole new list.

[wise wigeon]

need is a strong word, recommended is the right one

[honest birch]

we all gave you like pretty similar info, my list only got changed by one part with someone else that helped u lmao

[frigid stag]

well il get the older version if its cheaper

[wise wigeon]

so like here the relative overall performance from an aris review from the 30th of january

though its a lil weird because these are all "good" power supplies

[acoustic palm]

Wait psu needs pcie5?

Huh

[limber crane]

almost feels like arab jesus takes what's said here to another source of information and they contradict all of it 😄

[frigid stag]

is ltt labs any good or are they like their other reviews

[wise wigeon]

no its a different thing for psus

[acoustic palm]

Oh ok

Good

[wise wigeon]

but if you see pcie 5 its generally newer

[limber crane]

is this from the new alternative to cultist network?

[wise wigeon]

hardwarebusters

ie Mr. Cybernetics

cultist pulled a lot from his reviews

and so does the new list

[limber crane]

yeah someone here said there's a new thing to use now, cant remember what it was

[wise wigeon]

its a google doc in the pins

[storm umbra]

im just wanna make sure my build is perfect, since ive never done it before

[frigid stag]

well theres always budget constrints

[wise wigeon]

but ATX 3.0/PCIE 5 are the new standards for psus now

[limber crane]

I understand, but perfect isn't realistic without unlimited funds and even then there's arguments to be made

[honest birch]

i mean what i orginally sent you was pretty bang on for best price to performance, you just said u wanted a 2tb ssd and an aio which you were given in another list

[frigid stag]

itll never be perfect unless uou have unlimited budget

[honest birch]

🤷

[frigid stag]

and even then its uh

[wise wigeon]

its never gonna be perfect

[limber crane]

damn my PSU is only B+, time to change my list 😄

[frigid stag]

sometimes a new thing comes along

[wise wigeon]

b+ is fine

[honest birch]

anything B and up is fine for any hardware

[limber crane]

I was only kidding...mostly 😛

[frigid stag]

i can get it pretty close i just need 5k

[wise wigeon]

the new rme 2025 psus are B+ and their ok

[honest birch]

same with the MWE V3

[limber crane]

it'll be the last EVGA product I own probably, will be sad days to replace it

[frigid stag]

i want to get an evga aio for the collection

never had an evga product

[wise wigeon]

perfect list is subjective and there will always be one detractor

[limber crane]

I guess I could by their goofy mouse lmao

[wise wigeon]

things are loud as hell

[frigid stag]

i can swap out the fans

[wise wigeon]

i just dunno what sockets they suppoer anymore

[frigid stag]

i mean for pcs its pretty objective in performance. unless you go for aesthetics thats a whole different thing

[limber crane]

oh they still sell power supplies, didnt even realize

[frigid stag]

i want a motherboard from them

[wise wigeon]

eh even if you pick the most optimized list youre gonna get some crap fropm somebody

because what people want fromtheir PCs is subjective

[limber crane]

yeah, im overpaying for aesthetics, i could save a few hundred if i didnt care what any of it looked like

[acoustic palm]

Same

But I’d save like

100$ MAX

So idm

[frigid stag]

im kinda in the middle for aesthetics

i dont like to go overly flashy

[limber crane]

I will give Arab credit, he's doing more level of research than a lot of people. A lot of people just Google/YT the 'best' thing and buy without any research

[wise wigeon]

like some people see a 9070xt reaper as perfect because its a msrp card, buut i see something thats loud as heck with temps that are close to 90 at stock

[frigid stag]

i found one yesterday on amazon

[acoustic palm]

I’ve done liek 100 hours of research into my build and yet I improve it daily

[limber crane]

the lack of research is why so many people still use corsair ram

[frigid stag]

tbf most build guides dont tell you to avoid them

[storm umbra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Adamify/saved/fzffhM

okay i fixed my build

[frigid stag]

youd have to get pretty deep into the rabbit hole to find that

[limber crane]

yeah, ive learned that build guides are super problematic these days

[wise wigeon]

thats why i'm willing to pay more for a sapphire pulse which even if it has the similar memory temps because 9070xts just like hovering in the 80s, the pulse is much quieter

[frigid stag]

most build guides just tell you get 3000mts ddr4 or 6000 ddr5

[limber crane]

and prebuilts bother me too sometimes, newegg doesnt even list the full components sometimes in their builds

[acoustic palm]

Doesn’t assassin come with paste

[wise wigeon]

a dollar or 2 more for the phatom spirit

[limber crane]

temps are an 'easy' fix too

[frigid stag]

i mean theyre ok for a start. i doubt youd regret buying corsair ram as a regular average joe

[honest birch]

u dont need paste, get phantom spirit, 360hz oled is same price, bad keyboard look at cheap epomaker ones

[acoustic palm]

Monitor is part of a bundle

[storm umbra]

the oled is with a bundle

[honest birch]

ok

[wise wigeon]

eh i care about noise so letting them ramp to 2700 rpm is a no for me

[limber crane]

yeah, and i fall into that category. i wouldnt know the difference between dies and speeds if i didnt come here to talk about it