general-chat

[frigid stag]

Besides only performance matters at the end of the day

[acoustic palm]

Like 70$ from mc

[sage sluice]

I mean 7000 series exists

[wise wigeon]

more of a not every game is affected the same way by vcache

[acoustic palm]

No

[hoary zodiac]

Just because you have money doesn't mean you have to spend it

[acoustic palm]

What

[frigid stag]

Meh

If they’re cheap enough sure

[sage sluice]

Insane

[tranquil pebble]

the ones that benefit from it tend to see pretty big gains though

[frigid stag]

X3D or bust

[wise wigeon]

for sure

[sage sluice]

Werent there 7700x going for like 180 usd on ali?

[acoustic palm]

I’m not spending 200$ more for literally almost no bonus

[ancient swift]

5800x to 9800x3d was nice.

[frigid stag]

Sounds sketchy

[acoustic palm]

For a 7800x3d

[rancid juniper]

Zen 5%
Core Faultra

[sage sluice]

Then ofc theres the 7500f

[sage sluice]

It aint

[wise wigeon]

i went from a 10700k to a 9800x3d

[sage sluice]

Its official amd

[frigid stag]

Just don’t buy the 7400f

Overheating garbage

[acoustic palm]

Don’t forget the 7400f

[tranquil pebble]

is that the cursed R5 with c cores?

[sage sluice]

I never mentioned the 7400f

[frigid stag]

Ik

[idle nexus]

that's pretty cheap ig

[hoary zodiac]

Anyone want my X3Ds?

[rancid juniper]

No

[frigid stag]

Any difference in normal day to day usage.

No gaming

[idle nexus]

I wanna build in this monster

[ancient swift]

Modded Skyrim loves the 3d vcache

[sage sluice]

3d vcache is like oled to me, great if youve got leftover budget, should not be priority

[ancient swift]

Why not the X570 Crystal Mirror Black Edition.

[sinful blade]

I want to build in the HAF 912 EVO

[idle nexus]

put a 420 Rad in the front & back lol

[hoary zodiac]

My current laptop, which is a few gens old, is completely overkill for the games I play

[rancid juniper]

I hope if Intel ever adopts something similar to X3D they name it as Intel FatCache technology

[frigid stag]

Probably l4 cache

[sinful blade]

I also want to build in this

It’s 50kg

[acoustic palm]

I’m gonna get an OLED (if I decide it’s worth it at mc) over upgrading from the 9700x

[idle nexus]

lol funny you mention CoolerMaster

[sage sluice]

I got a gre and mainly play ultrakill, lethal company and very light games

[idle nexus]

I always wanted to build in a Cosmos

[frigid stag]

Ye just get a 5700x3d

[mystic ruin]

Ok ok so it's actually just a remote service call apollo and moonlight it allows to you remote into the computer from Apollo using moonlight as a bridge and this works for tablets and phones

[ancient swift]

Intel went away from hyper threading, I doubt they'll do 3d cache stuff

[sinful blade]

I just want to say I own a 50kg case lmao

[acoustic palm]

Huh

Wha

[frigid stag]

What

It’s a fine cpu

[acoustic palm]

I’m getting a 9700x

[sage sluice]

Acer has a really nice 1440p miniled for 190

[rancid juniper]

Definitely hurt em a bit

[acoustic palm]

From an mc bundle

[sage sluice]

Could be worth checking out

[ancient swift]

I love my OLED. But then again I mostly play single player RPGs so I have time to admire the pretty colors.

[acoustic palm]

What hz

[frigid stag]

I mean if you want to change mobo too

[sage sluice]

170 i recall?

[frigid stag]

And rebuild

[acoustic palm]

Ah nvm

[acoustic palm]

No

[idle nexus]

wait what? that's like 100lbs or something

[hoary zodiac]

I kinda want a cheap 1080p ultrawide

[acoustic palm]

Why would I do that

[sage sluice]

More than enough for any user imo who isnt like 0.001% pro

[idle nexus]

110lb case?

[sinful blade]

@idle nexus that 700 EVO is also $500

[sage sluice]

240hz is pointless ngl

[sinful blade]

And yeah around that

[ancient swift]

Nah. They have so many cores I don't think it's needed. Just a silly move.

[frigid stag]

360 and up truly

[hoary zodiac]

What...

[rancid juniper]

Now they'll just have to figure out how to optimize and improve that architecture

[sage sluice]

360 is way more pointless than 240, very minimal impact

[acoustic palm]

It’s a 50% increase

[frigid stag]

Cap

[sage sluice]

Diminishing returns

[frigid stag]

Have you ever tried a 360hz monitor?

[sage sluice]

Your eyes only see so fast lol

[frigid stag]

Bs

[acoustic palm]

Yeah uh

[mystic ruin]

Curious question and sorry to switch up the topic what are people's opinions on the Odyssey G9 Neo?

[acoustic palm]

No

[sage sluice]

480hz too

[frigid stag]

You have ?

[sage sluice]

Reddit is ass cheeks

[mystic ruin]

I have a 360hz monitor

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair there is actually a difference between 240Hz and 360Hz

[ancient swift]

I have too many monitors.

[sinful blade]

The cosmos is sick too

[frigid stag]

And call you schizo if you see the difference

[hoary zodiac]

Whether you can actually notice it however, would depend on how you perceive things and what games you play

[sage sluice]

360 is still an amazing monitor and there is a tangible difference, but its hardly a "superior" experience

[mystic ruin]

Difference also relies on the type of panel oled mini led and LCD

[sinful blade]

Dimensions (L x W x H)
556 x 279 x 540 mm (Body Size), 666 x 291 x 626 mm (incl. Protrusions)

700 Evos dimensions

[ancient swift]

Actually I got rid of my 21:9.

[idle nexus]

lol they price this thing like it's some sort of collector's item

[sage sluice]

Games you play is a big one

Most people arent comp shooters

[mystic ruin]

Hi lol

[idle nexus]

I'm fine with 144hz 4k

[frigid stag]

If an almost 40 year old like Linus is willing to switch, anyone can tell the difference

[acoustic palm]

Ngl yes

[hoary zodiac]

I just do not care at all so I cap my refresh rate at 60Hz

[sage sluice]

And i could run comp shooters at 120hz without problem

[acoustic palm]

Most ppl are comp shooters

[wise wigeon]

I mean it is diminishing returns though, you can see and feel the difference buts it def not the same as jumping from 60 to 144 initially

[rancid juniper]

Me after seeing the same fps slop for the 847372934th time:

[sage sluice]

Your wallet, your waste

Im not telling you how to spend your cash

[sinful blade]

Dual top fan setup incoming

[idle nexus]

lol I've seen this

it's heckin awesome

[sage sluice]

Just that youre making a bad decision for price to perf

[idle nexus]

can't you put two motherboards?

[mystic ruin]

I just found an Odyssey G9 Neo for 400$

[frigid stag]

1k is too much for me

[wise wigeon]

Linus switches to things for a variety of reasons most people wouldn’t

[sinful blade]

I think

[frigid stag]

Can buy 540hz for 400 bucks

[sinful blade]

It is a massive case

[sage sluice]

Buy one then

[hoary zodiac]

Y'all have $400 to spend on monitors?

[sage sluice]

Because id rather have a nice looking monitor than a high refresh monitor

[idle nexus]

buy two then

[sage sluice]

I dont lol

[mystic ruin]

It's an a g9 neo tho

240hz mini led

[sage sluice]

My 2 monitors are 250$ combined

[idle nexus]

maybe cuz of my old people eyes

[ancient swift]

Which one? Likely a scam

[idle nexus]

but I don't think I can go back to a monitor under 43"

[frigid stag]

I don’t think I have the needed hardware

[hoary zodiac]

See I play map games

[sinful blade]

https://youtu.be/PfF_JgNvJfQ?feature=shared

[ancient swift]

Oh the mini led.

[wise wigeon]

Better than a 2000 dollar chair

[hoary zodiac]

So I unironically will not see any improvements upgrading my display

[sage sluice]

Then why are you riding 360hz 😭

[hoary zodiac]

I have a 300Hz display I cap it at 60Hz so I use less power

[frigid stag]

I can run 360, not 540

[sage sluice]

Again, 360 aint it for most people

[mystic ruin]

She's beautiful

[hoary zodiac]

My games can run at 30fps I wouldn't even notice

[ancient swift]

Oh I don't trust second hand monitors.

[wise wigeon]

Wuh

[sage sluice]

Most people run weak gpus

[idle nexus]

5700g? memory speed? lol

[frigid stag]

You can get 360hz on a 3060 in those games

Or a 2060

[sage sluice]

True true

[frigid stag]

Gpu doesn’t matter. Cpu does

[mystic ruin]

All 3 of my monitors are 2nd hand and Ive had them for years

[hoary zodiac]

This is what I play

[acoustic palm]

Csgo fps is insane

[wise wigeon]

Can’t in new esports like rivals

[hoary zodiac]

You can see why refresh rate is completely meaningless to me

[acoustic palm]

Most comp shooters fps are good

[sage sluice]

Nonetheless, i still think 360 is overkill for the average user

240 even

[acoustic palm]

If you play comp shooters it’s a good upgrade

[sinful blade]

I think you can put to microatx boards in it

[sage sluice]

180 is a great sweet spot

[wise wigeon]

Overkill for even advanced users

[sinful blade]

Or 4 if they’re small enough

[rancid juniper]

Minimum FPS for CS: 120fps

[tranquil pebble]

I feel like past 144 gets rapidly diminishing returns

[sage sluice]

Do you play comp shooters constantly?

[mystic ruin]

This

[mystic ruin]

Valorant and CSGO

[hoary zodiac]

no no no

[frigid stag]

540 is a completely different thing though. It’s like a frame every 2ms

[hoary zodiac]

Look at my image

I literally would not see a benefit going to 144Hz

[sage sluice]

No hard feelings wasnt talking to you 😭 you can grab whatever you want

[frigid stag]

I’d hardly call that esports yet at least

[hoary zodiac]

I stare at maps all day

[acoustic palm]

Yes

[idle nexus]

one on each side of the divider?

[mystic ruin]

All good lol

[idle nexus]

happy birthday btw

[tranquil pebble]

Clearly it is meant to play Xbox 360 games on

[frigid stag]

There’s no such thing as overkill unless it’s absurdly priced

[acoustic palm]

Thanks (it was yesterday)

[fresh timber]

Old convo, but unironically Fortnite is gpu heavy for me

[frigid stag]

Dx12?

[fresh timber]

Dx12 all low cause AMD

[wise wigeon]

Rt

[sage sluice]

Thats exactly the issue tho, price

[wise wigeon]

?

[frigid stag]

Ah ye

[idle nexus]

get some DJR or Micron Rev E for 5700g party time

[fresh timber]

All low

[fresh timber]

My 7700xt hits higher fps than 6600 on a 5500

[acoustic palm]

You can get high hz monitors for cheap…

[frigid stag]

You can get 1440p 360hz for 300 to 400 bucks

[fresh timber]

Now if I put a 13600kf instead both gets a little more but the 7700xt stretches its legs a bit more

[acoustic palm]

I found a 400hz 1080p for sub 200 once

[wise wigeon]

Once you go past 240 the price balloons

[fresh timber]

Mines costed $310

1440p 240

[idle nexus]

I wonder if I could convice my dad to give me his 5600g build & I'll give him... I dunno maybe 10900K or 12100F or something lol

that was fun to OC ngl

[sinful blade]

Ye

I wish to have that case one day

[frigid stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525905837978288132/720400213973663744/20200610_171003_1.mp4?ex=67af173b&is=67adc5bb&hm=fcc63f1a6400c2626e4d1ae562927eb75004f59ed27dede494a48fa8cfc5f0e5&

[sage sluice]

What kind, ips?

[frigid stag]

240hz is insane

[frigid stag]

Ye

[sage sluice]

But why

[idle nexus]

what's your RAM running at on 5700g?

[sage sluice]

Ips is just, not as good

[frigid stag]

Wdym why

[acoustic palm]

Man that’s smooth

[wise wigeon]

Better than va

[frigid stag]

Then you’re paying 600 for an oled 360

Bruh

[sage sluice]

I mean why waste that on diminishing returns

[sage sluice]

Who says you buying an oled LMAO

[frigid stag]

What diminishing returns?

[frigid stag]

You said ips wasn’t good

[sage sluice]

Va miniled > ips > va

[acoustic palm]

It’s not diminishing

[frigid stag]

What is better?

[sage sluice]

It is tho

[frigid stag]

Sounds like copium

[idle nexus]

Fortnite at 4k is kinda hard to run lol

[sage sluice]

Do you have any first hand experience to say otherwise?

[hoary zodiac]

I like how y'all are talking about diminishing returns with high refresh rate monitors while I just play at 60Hz with a 300Hz display on my paradox map games

[frigid stag]

Yes

[idle nexus]

heckin Nanite crap

[frigid stag]

I do

[wise wigeon]

It is diminishing returns don’t delude

[acoustic palm]

I’ve tried higher hz monitors

[hoary zodiac]

My returns fall off a cliff

[acoustic palm]

There’s a definite difference

[frigid stag]

144hz users calling 240 / 360 “diminishing returns”

[sage sluice]

Then its a matter of opinion. I never said there wasnt a difference

[acoustic palm]

You can quite literally get 400hz for sub 200$ if you look hard enough

[sage sluice]

But i dont find the price premium to be worth

[wise wigeon]

That’s not what diminishing return means

[acoustic palm]

I found one like a week or so ago

[frigid stag]

I don’t think it’s opinion. Some people just have different perception and can’t see it

[hoary zodiac]

Y'all are treating this like a factual argument

[sage sluice]

I think youre being arrogant

[hoary zodiac]

Humans perceive things differently

[frigid stag]

Exactly

[frigid stag]

How

[sage sluice]

Exactly, opinions

[hoary zodiac]

This argument is going nowhere because technically both sides can be right at the same time

[frigid stag]

Some people can’t notice higher refresh rate

Brain diff

[hoary zodiac]

Counter point

[wise wigeon]

I’m not one to trust random monitors from unknown companies

[idle nexus]

my 8-year-old uses my old 43" 60hz display & didn't notice the difference playing 144hz on my computer

[hoary zodiac]

Why don't I torture both sides of the argument by talking about how much I cap my performance

[frigid stag]

I’ve seen people insist they don’t care for 120hz

And that 75 is fine

[sage sluice]

Im saying that being unable to notice the difference isnt the only reason it isnt worth

[hoary zodiac]

I'm one of them

I'm on 60Hz

[acoustic palm]

Is KTC an unknown company?

[hoary zodiac]

Before you say anything

[frigid stag]

I mean fair enough

[idle nexus]

maybe but they're unknown to me at least

[frigid stag]

If you’re on 4k there’s an argument for that

[sage sluice]

Id rather grab a 170hz 1440p miniled for 190 than a 240hz 1440p ips for 190

[hoary zodiac]

I play this type of game, refresh rate does NOT MATTER AT ALL

[idle nexus]

30hz ftw. I love it when my game looks like a powerpoint

[hoary zodiac]

There is no difference between 60Hz and 120Hz when I'm staring at a glorified spreadsheet

[sage sluice]

999hz

Minimum

[frigid stag]

So no oled? 🤔

[sage sluice]

When have i even mentioned oled wtf

😭

[hoary zodiac]

Nah I ain't getting a 4K monitor to stare at a spreadsheet game either

[sage sluice]

Oled is its own ballgame of price

[frigid stag]

fair

[wise wigeon]

That 400hz is over locked

[hoary zodiac]

My RTX 3070 does absolutely nothing

My setup is unironically overhill

[acoustic palm]

Ok

[frigid stag]

Can you unlock the fps in that game

[acoustic palm]

Then this

[hoary zodiac]

Yes but like

It's a map game

It does not matter

[acoustic palm]

140$ for 280hz, and it’s 24”

[sage sluice]

God no

I mean your money

But

[hoary zodiac]

There is no difference unless you actually have motion sickness

[sage sluice]

😨

[acoustic palm]

But what

[sage sluice]

Why do you need that

[frigid stag]

It’s cheap though

[sage sluice]

Are you making money on comp?

[acoustic palm]

You do realize most gamers play comp games

[acoustic palm]

No, I’m not getting it

[sage sluice]

I got a refurb 1080p 24" led at 180hz for 50 buckaroos

[acoustic palm]

I’m just saying

[frigid stag]

Where

[sage sluice]

This is just not true

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[acoustic palm]

No it 100% is

[frigid stag]

You don’t need to be playing for money to want a better experience

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't this about what he is playing

I think it should be up to hom

[acoustic palm]

No I’m saying in general

[wise wigeon]

Thing has like 4 reviews, that review score is aggregate of multiple models

It’s cheap sure

[sage sluice]

Show me your source lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I don't think I can give an actual answer to that

[frigid stag]

Bruh

[sage sluice]

Nintendo titles, minecraft, all these casual games

[hoary zodiac]

Without going into specific any argument I make will be stupid

So I just don't

[frigid stag]

Just look on steam most played

[wise wigeon]

Most gamers are def not playing comp games lol?

[wise wigeon]

That’s steam

[frigid stag]

League, rocket league, fortnite, cod things like that

[icy ore]

[hoary zodiac]

Y'all are just throwing statistics around

[sage sluice]

Also, comp aint even good enough reason. If you arent making cash from that comp it aint worth

[hoary zodiac]

Both sides of this argument is stupid

[acoustic palm]

???

😭

[frigid stag]

Why do you need to be making money to want a better experience?

[sage sluice]

You realize theres a world outside of steam

[sage sluice]

Im going to bang my head against a wall

[acoustic palm]

It’s not that much more than a lower hz monitor

[sage sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[wise wigeon]

Top 10 is like half and half

[sage sluice]

Spend your money the way you like

Aint my monitor

🙏

[rancid juniper]

Attempting a 1.100v vcore run @idle nexus

[hoary zodiac]

Can we actually just end the monitor argument

[sage sluice]

Just did

[hoary zodiac]

This isn't reddit

[frigid stag]

Alright I’ll spend the money on Audio gear

[rancid juniper]

Yes let's talk about undervolting and why it's needed

[sage sluice]

Go right ahead

And dont ping me about it if you dont mind

[wise wigeon]

It’s like 6:4

[frigid stag]

Damn cold

[wise wigeon]

And even then, steam isn’t representative of the whole pop

[frigid stag]

Monster Hunter has multiplayer?

[hoary zodiac]

Might want to put your phone on charge

[sage sluice]

Added to my list of like 3 blocks for that extra ping

[wise wigeon]

Brother how did you not know this

[frigid stag]

I never played

[rancid juniper]

Ah

Yes multiplayer is its core feature now

[wise wigeon]

It’s been mp since mh1

[hoary zodiac]

Monster Hunter or something idk I'm not a gamer

[frigid stag]

Bruh I forgot to turn off ping

It’s on the right hand side

[rancid juniper]

Your heart:

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

It’s been pretty core for forever

[rancid juniper]

Bruh I didn't know the first games had MP I thought it was SP for a bit

[wise wigeon]

Before gen 5 hub quests are always scaled to two player up

Hp*

So you doing hub quests which all of g rank is hub quests is you actively fighting monsters with multiplayer hp

5th gen added scaling per player

But if you were a solo player before you fought mp scaled monsters

It’s why 4 p parties were good for farming because it’s 4 players vs a 2 player hp target

It that 90w charging?

What even benefits from that

[frigid stag]

No idea

I guess it’s an extra feature

[wise wigeon]

Ugly ass stand

[frigid stag]

It looks like they copied LG

[cursive oasis]

its like the $999 Apple monitor stand

[fresh timber]

Who said 240hz sucks

Or 360

@acoustic palm who was it

Who dissing my glorious high refresh rate

Also quok snitched on yall

[wise wigeon]

nobody said it sucked

just that there are diminishing returns

[frigid stag]

Thing is we don’t agree that it is diminishing returns

It’s simple as try it and if you don’t like it then don’t use it

[wise wigeon]

i mean like i def feel a difference

its just not a linear difference for me

and for a lot of people

[hoary zodiac]

Why don't y'all agree on what's the best meat

Slow cooked beef is the best

Change my mind

[fresh timber]

I can feel it too

I can tell 180-240

[wise wigeon]

maybe you got binned perception ability because i swear LTT had a vid and pro gamers in the test stated as much in the beginning of the video

[wise wigeon]

i mean i can feel it too

[fresh timber]

Professional gamers 100% can tell, they can even tell the difference between 240 and 360

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair I feel the difference in CSGO

[fresh timber]

It’s enough to throw off their gaming performance

[wise wigeon]

but the difference doesnt feel as big as the diff between the 60 to 144hz jump to me

[hoary zodiac]

I raise my fps & refresh rate cap to 90 when I play shooters

[wise wigeon]

yes but thats not what diminishing returns is

[hoary zodiac]

y = e^x

Where x represents performance

And y represents price

[acoustic palm]

You do realize how cheap high hz monitors are

Right

[wise wigeon]

or in this case hz

[fresh timber]

I can feel the diffrence from 120-140-180-240

[wise wigeon]

that doesnt mean anything though

[limber crane]

cheap is subjective

[acoustic palm]

140$ 280hz, 200$ 400hz

[fresh timber]

If you have a job and not like struggling it’s cheap

[hoary zodiac]

Find the second derivative

[acoustic palm]

Is what I saw

[wise wigeon]

tthat doesnt disprove its diminishing returns

[hoary zodiac]

Find the 100th derivative actually

[fresh timber]

I think quoks point is just buy high refresh, it’s cheap

[wise wigeon]

the 400hz is 250, and its also actually a 360hz panel

[frigid stag]

It’s simple just try it. If you don’t like it don’t buy one

[acoustic palm]

It was 200$ not long ago

[hoary zodiac]

Bros would really argue about monitors rather than do math

[wise wigeon]

except just because its a fast panel doesnt make it good

[fresh timber]

Watch reviews, theirs good ones for cheap

[wise wigeon]

yeah but these so called 400hz 200 dollar monitors

not really

[frigid stag]

There are plenty that are good and cheap. And even so they’re still better than the 165hz

[fresh timber]

I’d take a 14400 360hz panel

[wise wigeon]

i'd take a 144 hz or 240 hz that actually looks good vs a 360 hz that is meh

[acoustic palm]

Ok but for sports

[frigid stag]

Looks good how

[acoustic palm]

Esports

[wise wigeon]

are you a pro gamer?

[frigid stag]

Like glossy?

[acoustic palm]

Not pro but I’m not bad

[hoary zodiac]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[frigid stag]

The pro argument is so outplayed ngl

[hoary zodiac]

💅🏻💅🏻

[frigid stag]

You can just want a better experience

[fresh timber]

My take is, if you enjoy something and can afford it, just do it

[wise wigeon]

as in the quality of the panel, and the image it produces

[sinful blade]

How about we agree to disagree on a topic that is widely regarded as per-person basis

[hoary zodiac]

This

[wise wigeon]

nah i like arguing

[hoary zodiac]

This argument has gone on for an hour

[acoustic palm]

No no no he said the hz don’t do much of anything

That’s the argument

[hoary zodiac]

Other people want to use #general-chat too

[frigid stag]

Well good thing you get both with oled

[fresh timber]

Let’s all agree that the pc hobby is about preference and how much money you have

[sinful blade]

The same argument has been going on for an hour while I’ve been here watching

[wise wigeon]

thats not what i said

[hoary zodiac]

Here's what we think

Both sides of this argument is stupid

[fresh timber]

Be carful, the 6’2 monster is going to come

[sinful blade]

Just move onto the topic of cheese

[frigid stag]

Alfred

[acoustic palm]

Not you

[hoary zodiac]

Y'all are not actually talking to each other

[wise wigeon]

ya'll putting some words in my mouth

[acoustic palm]

I’m 6’3 not 6’2 wtf man

[sinful blade]

And how provolone is the best cheese objectively

[fresh timber]

WHO THE FLIP IS ALFRED

[frigid stag]

Idk he was mentioned here before

[mystic ruin]

Depends on the use

[frigid stag]

I have no clue who he is

[hoary zodiac]

What is your favourite strain of bacteria

[sinful blade]

No, it’s just all around

Provolone is the best

Undeniably

[acoustic palm]

Smoked Gouda tho

[mystic ruin]

Nah not on a cheese steak

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-caine-charming-the-dark-knight-gif-11786345

[frigid stag]

I’ll take your word for it

I’m not a cheese connoisseur

[sinful blade]

Neither am I

[hoary zodiac]

Cheese nuts

[sinful blade]

[wise wigeon]

it be kinda ded half the time though

[hoary zodiac]

Impostor?

Sus?

That is Lore

[sinful blade]

UwU

[fresh timber]

@acoustic palm

Tonight is going to be fun

[acoustic palm]

Dang

[wise wigeon]

idk how people drink energy drinks often

[hoary zodiac]

Least favourite episode?

[sweet phoenix]

How to speed run a heart attack

[fresh timber]

How much can I Handel before my heart gives out

[wise wigeon]

i only drink an energy drink if i think its like actually dangerous to other people if i'm not gonna be alert

[fresh timber]

I once drank an energy drink, then I had an anxiety attack right after.. :9 ;7!

[acoustic palm]

Gg

[hoary zodiac]

Energy drink is just caffeine with sugar

[wise wigeon]

depends

[hoary zodiac]

Actually disgusting

[sinful blade]

I haven’t watched it yet

[fresh timber]

Should i find out

[sinful blade]

It’s next after lower decks

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

TNG after LD?

Eh?

[sinful blade]

I know the characters

[wise wigeon]

i mean there was that girl with a heart condition who died to the charged lemonade

[hoary zodiac]

You gotta watch LD again afterwards

Half the references probably flew over your head

[acoustic palm]

That was a skill issue

Tbh

[frigid stag]

Star Trek

[wise wigeon]

congenital condition a skill issue

[sinful blade]

Voyager->ld~>tng~>movies~>DS9

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

Just be built different

[fresh timber]

I drank a prime energy earlier

[sinful blade]

This is the way we’re doin it

[hoary zodiac]

DS9 just too different of a vibe?

[mystic ruin]

Just wanna say I was eating this whole time watching the argument over the monitors lol

[acoustic palm]

Like me

[sinful blade]

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

Babylon 5 > DS9

[fresh timber]

@acoustic palm what does OF stand for

[acoustic palm]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[hoary zodiac]

B5 is sci fi gold

[mystic ruin]

You might be too young for that chief lol

[hoary zodiac]

You should watch it

[wise wigeon]

i'm just waiting for you to post a pic and turn out to be a scrawny 140lb 6'3'' stick

[acoustic palm]

I’m like

210

Idk I don’t feel like measuring myself

[frigid stag]

Stands for Objective force

[wise wigeon]

healthy weight, good

[acoustic palm]

Meh

It’s mostly fat

[wise wigeon]

ok

[acoustic palm]

I got thick ass legs

[wise wigeon]

well

[fresh timber]

One, I’m 18, two it means something els

It stands for OPTIFINE you sea horses

[wise wigeon]

for your height technically an ok bmi

[mystic ruin]

I was kidding but the implications apply lol

[acoustic palm]

Ig

[wise wigeon]

bmi is crapthough

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

Ok I gtg

[wise wigeon]

anyone who has more muscle than the average person is kinda screwed by bmi

[mystic ruin]

I'm just fat lol

[acoustic palm]

Dog picture before I go

[mystic ruin]

But I've been going to the gym

[wise wigeon]

well its just a lot of iv meds are obviously weight based

[mystic ruin]

Puppy =boat

[wise wigeon]

and different body comps are different volumes of distribution

[fresh timber]

Guess the price

[mystic ruin]

150

[frigid stag]

200

[fresh timber]

Too cheap

[fresh timber]

With tax. Yup

[wise wigeon]

30 shein rupies

[frigid stag]

I lowk want some dunks

Lows

[fresh timber]

Cop

[frigid stag]

Chicagos would look dope

[mystic ruin]

Nice

So umm wonderful weather we are having

[storm umbra]

AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X vs AMD Ryzen™ 7 9700X what should i get?

im on a budget btw

[limber crane]

helps to give your budget and intended use

[acoustic palm]

9700x

If it’s gaming

[storm umbra]

what makes this better

im just curious

[acoustic palm]

Wish I could get nice shoes

[acoustic palm]

Significantly cheaper

[sweet phoenix]

If you're just gaming, neither

[acoustic palm]

And the extra cores aren’t… that good for gaming

[acoustic palm]

😦

[sweet phoenix]

Whats your total budget for the pc?

[acoustic palm]

9700x is good wdym

[sweet phoenix]

Hes on a budget

You weren't really tight on money

[storm umbra]

not entirely sure, im not trying to go over 1800

[acoustic palm]

If he’s considering one of those

Yeah

[storm umbra]

and im already at 1795

[sweet phoenix]

Oh... I don't consider that a budget pc lol

[acoustic palm]

Send the list

[sweet phoenix]

Also, what country?

[storm umbra]

usa

[sweet phoenix]

The 9700x sounds good, 9900x isn't better for most games

Should be able to do much less than $1800

[frigid stag]

Can get x3d for that

[acoustic palm]

1 barely better
2 not the question
3 not rly in this economy of gpus

[storm umbra]

how do i do a list

[frigid stag]

It’s not barely it’s a pretty big difference

[storm umbra]

i tried but idk where the list maker is

[acoustic palm]

How did you price out 1795

[acoustic palm]

It’s rly not tho

[fresh timber]

You got a car

[sweet phoenix]

Gpu is mainly just a placeholder
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rrdP9C

[acoustic palm]

My feet grow rly fast

[fresh timber]

Mines stopped

[acoustic palm]

I’m on size 14s rn

[fresh timber]

How

[acoustic palm]

Uh

Big person = big feet

[mystic ruin]

Size 14 also

[fresh timber]

I wear 12

I’m 5’7

[acoustic palm]

Damn you’re short

[mystic ruin]

6"4

[acoustic palm]

I’m 6’3 rn

[mystic ruin]

How old are you.

[proud jackal]

[mystic ruin]

Hey Theo lol

[acoustic palm]

16 as of yesterday

[mystic ruin]

ehh you have more time

[proud jackal]

Must be nice to be young

[acoustic palm]

Kinda

[proud jackal]

[acoustic palm]

School sucks tho

[mystic ruin]

my back is killin me

[storm umbra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Adamify/saved/#view=fzffhM

this is it

also the gpu is this https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-swift-amd-radeon-rx-9070xt-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-5-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6620455.p?skuId=6620455

but its out of stock rn so im just wating

[acoustic palm]

You can improve that a lot

[acoustic palm]

Uh…

9070xt will not be in stock for a while

[storm umbra]

how long is a while

[acoustic palm]

For near msrp

[acoustic palm]

Uh… no one knows

[storm umbra]

so should i get a different gpu?

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

There’s some ok deals on used ones

[storm umbra]

would a AMD Radeon RX 7800 be a bad option?

[acoustic palm]

Uh

If it’s a decent price no

[tranquil pebble]

pretty big if

[fresh timber]

What’s this ancient technology

[tranquil pebble]

Cursed processor architecture console

[fresh timber]

I have ps3 ps4 and ps5

[acoustic palm]

Here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f6TxWc

You can save a lil more if you use an air cooler

But otherwise

[tranquil pebble]

only PS consoles one needs is PS3 launch model, and PS5 to play all PS games lol

[fresh timber]

My new psu came

[acoustic palm]

Gg

Mines here in 2 days basically

[frigid stag]

Does anybody know what acronis edition means on an ssd

Tried google mixed results

[craggy shoal]

My new psu came
*still a Thermaltake Smart*

[acoustic palm]

It’s satire lmao

[craggy shoal]

I couldn't hear it

I’m in the shower

[frigid stag]

Bro has a waterproof phone

[craggy shoal]

(Money better spent on a case that lets me take my phone in the shower)

Anybody wanna see? :D

[frigid stag]

💀

[craggy shoal]

(For legal reasons, I’m joking)

[frigid stag]

Na

[fresh timber]

Did you look further

[storm umbra]

i think imma wait for the 9070xt to restock, which one will be the cheapest so i can keep it on my radar?

[wise wigeon]

I'm not sure it'll get cheaper at this pooint

[velvet summit]

Box comes preexploded

[wise wigeon]

the xfx models at microcenter just ballooned

[storm umbra]

i thought they were priced at 600?

[wise wigeon]

the mid tier models are like over 800 now

[fresh timber]

You realize the psu im showing is legit a bomb that will explode

[storm umbra]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-swift-amd-radeon-rx-9070xt-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-5-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6620455.p?skuId=6620455 what abt this one

[storm umbra]

will this one go to 800 in the restock?

[velvet summit]

I mean, it's a delta

[velvet summit]

No way lifetime toll free technical support

[wise wigeon]

no idea because it hasnt restocked since launch lol

[craggy shoal]

People are buying AMD because Nvidia can't make a good product (or a product at all in this case)

[wise wigeon]

microcenter was the ones with fat restocks and I dont even see the msrp model on the site anymore

[wise wigeon]

well more like it was in stock at a better price

[idle nexus]

usually cooling up to like 1.3ish isn't so bad

[frigid stag]

Ye they’re spending xtx money on a 9070xt

[wise wigeon]

lets not act like if the 5080 was 800 people wouldn't overlook all the other issues

[frigid stag]

And calling it “price to performance”

[wise wigeon]

people are dumb

buying $850 70 xt and going omg such good value over the 70 ti

[idle nexus]

ghost-spectre toolbox thing is kinda nice

[wise wigeon]

when premium models of the 70 ti are literally just 50 more dollars

[craggy shoal]

I miss when 1060s were like $260 at launch and stayed that way and it would last for basically a decade

[idle nexus]

which browser should I install? G-S has none installed by default

[wise wigeon]

has it even been a decade since pascal

[craggy shoal]

I miss when Titans were like 8¢ and could last you several lifetimes

[craggy shoal]

It's a joke

[nocturne flicker]

Next year

[craggy shoal]

I miss when GPUs were so good they'd pay you to use them and would last like 472628572 years

motor

[idle nexus]

I'm thinking Brave or Librewolf ig

[velvet summit]

Unironically I probably would have trusted that delta PSU more than the thermal take smart lmao
At least assuming that both were brand new
Considering the age of the PSU now though, maybe around the same

[craggy shoal]

Brave

[wise wigeon]

I was deciding browsers til just yesterday

[idle nexus]

I could do firefox

[wise wigeon]

just went with brave because the extension compat

[idle nexus]

I mean this doesn't exactly matter tho tbh

it's just for clowning around

[wise wigeon]

i need that video speed extension for lectures

[idle nexus]

I guess I could game on 13600K/2x 1080ti SLI but ehh

the heck is comodo icedragon?

[wise wigeon]

i remember watch hd 7000 series crossfire videos for bf4

[craggy shoal]

I need a browser that still lets me use uBlock while also letting you watch streaming services. Also letting you sync data between devices (probably the biggest thing I need and Brave's support for this sucks)

Also Chromium-based

[fresh timber]

Yesbsirrr

But they won’t answer

[fresh timber]

It’s waste anyways, no pcie power

[wise wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itJ5J6ZcNVg

[nocturne flicker]

Just do Librewolf instead

[wise wigeon]

all that hardware and the gameplay is still bad

[nocturne flicker]

No reason to use Firefox over it

[acoustic palm]

I got a funny 70xt price

[wise wigeon]

librewolf is a firefox fork aint it?

[nocturne flicker]

Yes

The only downside is that there isn't a mobile fork

[tranquil pebble]

Fireforx

[wise wigeon]

only did the swap to brave yesterday after deliberating between it and firefox for a while

[nocturne flicker]

I was already on Firefox when I swapped to Libre

[wise wigeon]

because i need the chrome extensions but the last two weeks of ads on youtube have been torture

[tranquil pebble]

Cromite still supports ublock origin

[idle nexus]

I use Edge & uBlock/SponsorBlock

[wise wigeon]

also today my tweaked youtube ipa lost a lot of functionality because its an old version of youtube and I don't feel like putting the brain power to finding a good new ipa to install

soo i'm just using brave browser for the adblock and background play on ios

because ads on mobile is genuine torture

[idle nexus]

adguard

you have to "share" from YT app & open it in Adguard player

but it's ad-free

[limber crane]

can you buy generic boxes for components? i realized i should have kept all my boxes as i intend to sell my old parts

[wise wigeon]

oh that just works with the main youtube app?

[wise wigeon]

that sounds like a lot of effort for even a single vid

[idle nexus]

yes

it's worth it

lol

imo

[wise wigeon]

and you do that for each video

vs using a browser?

would it enable me to background play?

because thats the other main use

[idle nexus]

well

it depends ig

for me it becomes a small window

like how google maps or regular YT would

[wise wigeon]

so pip

[idle nexus]

that's the description I was looking for lol

[wise wigeon]

but background play is like it plays when the screen is off

pip is also on youtube via browser

[wise wigeon]

just fullscreen and swipe home

[idle nexus]

for example

[wise wigeon]

at least on brave

[velvet summit]

mfw you could just hostname -I

[wise wigeon]

we prob have diff use cases

like 70% of my youtube use is as background noise

so ads and no background play is rather annoying

like i just pick something and let autoplay choose my fate

[rancid juniper]

Igpu gaming

[wise wigeon]

This is what happens when no arguments

Ded chat

[acoustic palm]

As always

[proud jackal]

@pliant berry

[storm umbra]

apparently their was a restock of xfx 9070xt on bestbuy on the 15th

[proud jackal]

[storm umbra]

but it was 150 dollars more than MSRP

usd

[tranquil pebble]

msrp is becoming a lie

[pliant berry]

Oh my, did you order yet or still looking at the options?

[storm umbra]

i didnt order yet

or do u mean someone else lol

[proud jackal]

i looked at everything already and uplift had a pretty good review

[storm umbra]

ah someone else

[pliant berry]

Yeah sorry I was talking to theo xD

[proud jackal]

it was either secret lab with their 5 year warranty or the other one you called budget

[pliant berry]

Yeah the only thing I will say is the commercial version with the crossbar might be worth if you want a little extra stability but its fine

[proud jackal]

i dont need more stability

[pliant berry]

Twinzies

❤️

[proud jackal]

wanna kiss?

[pliant berry]

Haha

[fresh nova]

YES

[idle nexus]

what about Thermaltake Porsche chair https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Leather-Glacier-∙Porsche-GGC-ARG-BWLFDL-01/dp/B09L5CS481?th=1

[proud jackal]

i have a secret labs D:

[idle nexus]

I've used this everyday since like mid-2020 (sometimes for a lot more hours than I'd care to admit) & the only issue I ever had was the leather started peeling but I RMAed & they sent new covers https://www.staplesadvantage.com/tempur-pedic-ergonomic-leather-swivel-executive-chair-black-tp2500-blkl/product_2801086

[idle nexus]

all I know is Linus is involved with that or something but I'm sure it's nice lol

[proud jackal]

im getting too old for gamer chairs now

this will be my last one

oops wrong emote

[idle nexus]

ig mine isn't even technically a gaming chair

[proud jackal]

[storm umbra]

okay i need someones honest opinion because clearly msrp isnt gonna go down as we have seen by past releases of gpu's. Is it a bad idea to buy one from ebay. im seeing some unopened brand new ones on ebay for less than 200 dollars more.

idk if anyone has done that

[proud jackal]

do not buy off ebay

[storm umbra]

why tho

[tranquil pebble]

because the gpu market on ebay is... screwed

[idle nexus]

ebay buyer protection is pretty good but ig getting from a reputable dealer is better

[proud jackal]

one, it could be just a picture of a gpu, two, if its broken its most likely not going to get replaced under warranty

[storm umbra]

oh well that is true

[proud jackal]

guys guys guys

[storm umbra]

i forgor abt that aspect

[proud jackal]

i was less than 3/4 of a mile from jensen huang today

[idle nexus]

I've bought many GPUs off ebay but they were mostly ancient stuff lol

[idle nexus]

did he smell like a new baseball glove or horse saddle or something leather I dunno

[proud jackal]

idk, i was 4 blocks away

[velvet summit]

Man's either had the most magnificent stalling spree or this is insurance fraud

https://youtube.com/shorts/qa6TtBj61AA?si=I9-giWLFEJAWV9ow

[tranquil pebble]

train horn could be heard and he still goes through...

[acoustic palm]

wtf

[velvet summit]

tbf the railway crossing things havent gone down yet when he was making the turn

though man could have continued driving

and instead just dead stops

[tranquil pebble]

commercial vehicles are supposed to stop at all crossings anyway pretty sure

[acoustic palm]

It looked stuck

[velvet summit]

it wasnt a low platform trailer, and didnt look high centered
the road also had a downward slope

either they lost all air pressure from slamming on the brakes too much (so the e-brake engages) or they are just stalling the engine or something

[icy ore]

That was on purpose man

[velvet summit]

it might actually be from the air brakes? i cant tell tbh

even if it was the air brakes though, that would just be a sign of a bad driver

[dusk knot]

fun

how many days will this take?

[mystic ruin]

3 years

[unreal trail]

yall playing Samurai Shampoo, needing at least a 4080 and I'm about to play Croc Legend of the Gobbos which needs a RX 590

[acoustic palm]

Ok

[mystic ruin]

Me emulating need for speed carbon a on steam deck

[storm umbra]

is getting the 9070 (not xt) a bad idea, because i feel like its almost impossible to score an xt right now with the prices

[hoary zodiac]

Depends on the price tbh

[storm umbra]

But is it bad compared to the xt?

[wraith fern]

So my displayport cable is impossibly wedged in my gpu

About 150 pounds of force and zero give

Thought gpu was gonna break

[storm narwhal]

How did you measure the force

[fresh timber]

hi

[fresh timber]

pure muscle

[wraith fern]

Just as hard as i could pull and that’s about as hard as i can pull

Well guess that the cord had a release button at the bottom… ffs

[storm narwhal]

Lmao

[wraith fern]

It gets worse. After i plugged the cable in, my gpu stopped booting…

But somehow I fixed it

[hoary zodiac]

That depends on the price difference

[storm umbra]

right now the price of the xfx non xt is 650, and the xt version is 750

so 100 dollar difference

[topaz crown]

Hello @turbid violet! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[icy ore]

[hoary zodiac]

ehh

Honestly both are decent value

[proud jackal]

[icy ore]

Ridiculous

[dense locust]

Hmmm 2.7k or 3.3k
They both are the wrong choice

[sweet phoenix]

The non xt is about 20% worse

Maybe a little bit more

[dusk knot]

HOOOLLYYYYY...........

4 thousand dollar card anyone?

for an extra 1400 dollars, WHAT IS THERE TO GAIN!!!???

[paper verge]

rog logo

[dusk knot]

pure garbo

[paper verge]

i think it justifies it

humbly

[dusk knot]

We have entered into the realm of pure obscurity

I doubt even Theo would buy that

[dusk knot]

stupid

[storm umbra]

but like is it significant enough to notice

comparing the non xt to a 7800

how much of an increase

cus i was gonna get the 7800

[sweet phoenix]

Like 10%

It about matches the 7900 gre

9070xt about matches the xtx

So like 25% I guess

The 9070 is still a great gpu

[storm umbra]

so would u say the non xt is a bad option

[sweet phoenix]

If you're impatient it's fine

[storm umbra]

or should i just try to get the 9070xt

[sweet phoenix]

If you'll take the time to get an xt, it's worth it

Especially with an $1800 budget

Did you see the 9700x build i made you above a while back?

[storm umbra]

ye i checked it out

ty for that

[sweet phoenix]

Alr

Nw

[gray kelp]

Im still looking for GPU and this popped out, I suppose this is not a good idea right?

[sweet phoenix]

There's certainly worse choices

If you happen to be wanting an OLED monitor too, check #tech-deals ,there's a 9070xt OLED bundle atm

[dusk knot]

damn

great deal

[sweet phoenix]

@storm umbra you as well

[dusk knot]

buy buy buy

[sweet phoenix]

Could also do this, and replace the ram
https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Blaze4-Gaming-Desktop-5-3GHz/dp/B0DZHGLMNP?ref_=ast_sto_dp

[dense locust]

my new cpu could be dead and i'd never know

not until i buy the mobo

[gentle canyon]

a cpu isnt alive without a mobo technically

https://tenor.com/view/stay-with-me-now-meme-gif-15503099966413958634

[paper verge]

crazy sentence using technically at the end

[gentle canyon]

english is hard

hush

[dense locust]

technically, no computer is alive 🤓

[paper verge]

so windows

is like oh you havent updated?

there goes your bluetooth

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-get-trolled-we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-20266975

[gray kelp]

Thanks!

Im missing entire build, haha, but didnt want to start ordering parts without having GPU and then just having to wait... Was also trying to look into like 5080s? So thats when i started to look into prebuilds but Im not sure.,

[devout forum]

It's ironic but a prebuilt is actually not a bad way to get a GPU you want

It's a disgusting situation
But it's the situation we have

Especially if you can scavenge other bits like the CPU or storage

RAM usually needs replacing tho

[gray kelp]

I saw an online recommendation for this? I think I could get 10% off coupon

[devout forum]

That's actually awful

That's such a hard no on my part lmao

Especially as a Dell machine

[gray kelp]

yea:'(

[sweet phoenix]

Alienwares suck

So does core ultra

Id sooner pay $950 for a 5070 ti than buy that

[dense locust]

amd fans when they realize intel cpus didnt kill their family and steal their home

[dense locust]

if you're playing at 4k an intel cpu wont matter

[sweet phoenix]

? Is this responding to me?

Core ultra is just terrible value

I'm on a 13600k lmao

[dense locust]

$2k at current pricing its not bad

[sweet phoenix]

The ultra 9 285k loses to a 12600k in some games

[dense locust]

but if they wait prices will prob go down

(hopefully)

[sweet phoenix]

$2300 for a build with OEM parts and 16gb of slow ram

[dense locust]

i said pricing isnt bad not that pricing is good ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sweet phoenix]

It is bad lol

[dense locust]

the gpu market is just terrible rn

i wonder what 5080 it is

doesnt say

[sweet phoenix]

Its a dell OEM 5080

Just like the case, motherboard, and psu are OEM

Motherboard might not support XMP

[dense locust]

do they use non standard components?

[sweet phoenix]

Yes...

Thats why Alienware builds suck

[dense locust]

damn

[sweet phoenix]

They have for 15 years

[dense locust]

ok if you cant upgrade stuff that'd be bad

they removed building out of pc building

[sweet phoenix]

sigh

[dense locust]

now be like me and buy a 5080 for your am4 pcie gen 3 motherboard

5600x power!

[gentle canyon]

their monitors are good i heard tho right?

[devout forum]

The sad part?
Dell OEM GPUs are actually reallyy good

[sweet phoenix]

Normally overpriced as hell

But they can be

[sweet phoenix]

They can be

They can also suck

[devout forum]

like Dell OEM 4090 was among the best 4090s

IIRC legitimate 2-slot 300mm card

wasn't perfect but it performed and didn't throttle

[fresh timber]

Ima see if my dad will let me trade my phone in for a 16 pro max or 16 plus

Cause I can

And I’m lazy to replace my phones microphone

[sinful blade]

Just get the pro

Not the pro max

No noticeable difference besides size

Save a few hundred bucks

[fresh timber]

I want the size

That’s why I said plus

I hate how tiny the damn 14 is

[sinful blade]

Plus is bad for features

[sweet phoenix]

Bro wants a tablet for a phone

[sinful blade]

Get the pro

It’s the best mix

[sweet phoenix]

It's his dad's money it's whatever

There was a kid in the first high-school I went to who was complaining about the iPhone his parents bought him bc it was the wrong color, so he wouldn't even touch it

They bought him a different color

He had his macbook stolen that same year bc he left it in a class unattended