general-chat

[rancid juniper]

super cool

[opaque sedge]

Cuz if u do check this out

[lavish stag]

oddly right?

[hoary zodiac]

Send a movie over carrier pigeon

[lavish stag]

do u want a screenshot of adrenaline?

[velvet summit]

real

[rancid juniper]

that means very little power is used, and yea

[lavish stag]

ill run a game and check power draw rq

[rancid juniper]

alr

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if it's being power throttled

WAIT

[rancid juniper]

power throttling wouldn't bring low clocks like that

[hoary zodiac]

What if it's the vbios?

You know how some gpus have a vbios switch?

[lavish stag]

!!!!

[rancid juniper]

oooooo

[velvet summit]

if the internet goes down, then we wouldnt have electricity to watch movies with
high speed global internet is very complex

[lavish stag]

OH SHOOT YEAH I HAVE A SWITCH ON MINE

[rancid juniper]

lmfao

[rough zinc]

Don't use afterburner, use AMD adrenalin for overclocking and HWInfo64 to monitor it, afterburner doesn't show everything accurately

[lavish stag]

i didn't think that did anything

[rancid juniper]

he probably had it on the "Cool" vbios

[hoary zodiac]

What if one of the bioses was a silent profile

Ye ye ye

[rough zinc]

LOL cool vbios switch would do it

[velvet summit]

but internet access is easy to maintain a long as we have sufficent electricity

[lavish stag]

i have a physical switch on my gpu, so that's the issue?

[rancid juniper]

maybe

[rough zinc]

Maybe

[rancid juniper]

i gotta check your model

[lavish stag]

ight ill turn it off and give it a switch

alright

[hoary zodiac]

Would be funny if it was the vbios

[velvet summit]

swich could also be for 0rpm mode?

[lavish stag]

no idea

[lavish stag]

uhh that means?

[hoary zodiac]

That's a backup hmm

[lavish stag]

it looks exactly like that

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe the backup is a low power one? Idk

[wise wigeon]

this is hilarious a must read really https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1jcu4sz/the_newest_version_of_msi_afterburner_sucks/

[rancid juniper]

i dont think the switch does anything

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[lavish stag]

what's vbios? i can check that out

[hoary zodiac]

They don't say that the backup vbios is a silent one

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[rancid juniper]

nah

[lavish stag]

alright

[velvet summit]

tbh you could have summarized it

"guy downloaded afterburner to add more vram"

[hoary zodiac]

Pcie bandwidth shouldn't affect clock speeds right?

[lavish stag]

lol

[rancid juniper]

no

[hoary zodiac]

Just the actual bandwidth itself

Yeah figured

[rancid juniper]

its entirely on the gpu and power delivery

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

[rancid juniper]

you got a screenshot of the power draw? @lavish stag

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe the gpu is power limited somewhere?

Like say

Power plans

[rancid juniper]

you could run a 60 sec stress test on adrenalin

that would be easier

[opaque sedge]

If this is the avg pc consumer no wonder nvidia is such a popular choice 💀

[rancid juniper]

there was a term for it but i forgor

[lavish stag]

Gimme a sec

W/o overcloxk

[rancid juniper]

where pwr?

[wise wigeon]

was rdna2 really that low clocked?

[rancid juniper]

no

lol

this is super low for a 6650xt

[wise wigeon]

he doesnt have it enabled on his metrics

[rancid juniper]

45w???

BRUH

[lavish stag]

Oh f

Massive issue incoming

[rancid juniper]

you have that 8pin connected properly right?

[lavish stag]

Lemme double check

Im not daisy chaining either

[wise wigeon]

i just found this thread as i was scrolling down to find the guru3d link for afterburner

[lavish stag]

Wouldnt it not turn on if it was installed badly?

[rancid juniper]

possibly (never tried that)

but maybe you can reconnect it

[lavish stag]

Alr

[rancid juniper]

also do you have this?

[lavish stag]

Lemme look

[rancid juniper]

ok click custom

[rancid juniper]

crank the power slider all the way to the right and click apply

[lavish stag]

alr

[rancid juniper]

then check the OSD

[lavish stag]

should i also stress test?

alr

[sweet phoenix]

What psu is this on?

[dusk knot]

Yes

[rancid juniper]

stress test or game, doesn't matter i wanna see the pwr draw

[lavish stag]

i believe its a evga ge 700

[wise wigeon]

I mean the PL really shouldnt be the issue here

[sweet phoenix]

Could be dirty power

Idk

[lavish stag]

still 45W

[rancid juniper]

the card or psu has issues getting power

[lavish stag]

wait

i have my psu cable plugged into a power chain

[rancid juniper]

what

[sweet phoenix]

What?

[wise wigeon]

?

[rancid juniper]

🤨

[opaque sedge]

Then check this out rgb… on a controller!

[wise wigeon]

ew default msi afterburner skin is ugly now

[lavish stag]

wait idk what it's called, those long strips with many power heads

could that be it?

[sweet phoenix]

Oh a power strip?

[wise wigeon]

a power strip really shouldnt be the issue

[sweet phoenix]

It shouldn't be an issue

[lavish stag]

yeah power strip*

[sweet phoenix]

I use one for all three of the pcs in my house

[opaque sedge]

What is a power chain… why does it sound like smth one discovers if they’re doing smth wrong

[sweet phoenix]

I thought you meant inside of the pc lol

[lavish stag]

HAHAHA i can't english

[wise wigeon]

ikr

[opaque sedge]

Oh thank goodness

[lavish stag]

i guess i should check pcie connections rn?

[wise wigeon]

please

[rancid juniper]

Now i do remember there are boards that have PCIE slots rated at like 35w and such instead of the full fat 75w. I don't think it applies here just a thought

[rancid juniper]

yes

[lavish stag]

never daisy chain right? i don't think i am rn tho

[rancid juniper]

nah

[hoary zodiac]

You can daisy chain fans... That's it

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[opaque sedge]

@sweet phoenix hey bacca whats the lowest you have seen a 4tb nvme?

[wise wigeon]

does a 6650xt have need for 2 8 pins?

[lavish stag]

1 8pin

[hoary zodiac]

Unless you have IDE hard drives

[rancid juniper]

it shouldn't, thats nuts

[sweet phoenix]

160ish

Recently, around 180

[opaque sedge]

Oh thats pretty good

Thx for letting me know

[sweet phoenix]

Np

[hoary zodiac]

I remember when SATA abolished the serfdom imposed by the IDE standard

[sweet phoenix]

C910 is $193 atm

[opaque sedge]

Guys check this out metal rings should help with wear and somewhat ig lol

[lavish stag]

Try a different cable?

[rancid juniper]

a cable only labled "PCIE" yea

[lavish stag]

Kk

This one has no lavel on the connector

[wise wigeon]

GE series is that new?

[velvet summit]

i'll have to say
i've never really seen a plastic one wear out

[opaque sedge]

My gamesir’s left stick has some minimal wear noticeable to see but not noticeable to feel after 600 hrs of elden ring 😭

[hoary zodiac]

600 hours

[lavish stag]

My psu is nonmodular, should i c pcie sign on the connector?

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

[opaque sedge]

The plastic was coming off

[rancid juniper]

600 hours of pain

dayum

[hoary zodiac]

That's more hours than I have on Victoria II

[opaque sedge]

I scraped a bit of it

[opaque sedge]

Mind u before i stopped i was able to get most bosses in under 5 tries

I might need a refresh now tho

[rancid juniper]

ah

[opaque sedge]

Beens a few months since i played

[hoary zodiac]

I need more hours in this game

[rancid juniper]

there's no label?

i guess thats fine

VGA

label is VGA

[lavish stag]

Oh yeah i c vha

Vga*

[hoary zodiac]

I'm like a noob in terms of victoria II

256 hours and I'm still trash

[lavish stag]

Ill try a new vga cable

[rancid juniper]

yes

[velvet summit]

you're probably gonna wear out the contacts in a potentiometer joystick, or the plastic in the hall effect or tmr joysticks first or smth 💀
and the top part can be replaced as well

[rancid juniper]

it looks like its 6+2pin

[hoary zodiac]

How many hours do y'all have in your top 3

[lavish stag]

Yea, does it matter which?

[rancid juniper]

so you gotta connect both

[rancid juniper]

either or

[lavish stag]

Kk

Moment of truth to turn it back on

[hoary zodiac]

I somehow still suck at the game with this amount of hours

[rancid juniper]

dude ngl my longest game was around 150hrs

all you guys are ultra gamers

[hoary zodiac]

I just don't play many games tbh

My top game is HOI4

And I barely play it these days

[rancid juniper]

thats RTS?

[hoary zodiac]

Sitting at 1477

[dusk knot]

Name?

[hoary zodiac]

EU4 gonna overtake it soon

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

[rancid juniper]

i see

[hoary zodiac]

The thing with these paradox strategy games tho

They have a crazy amount of depth

And a steep learning curve

[opaque sedge]

https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-2-wireless-controller/

60 bucks

[hoary zodiac]

So you can play for thousands of hours and still not exhaust the full game

[lavish stag]

Evga still alive incase i need psu warranty?

[hoary zodiac]

It took me like

Pff

[rancid juniper]

i think they are

[hoary zodiac]

200-300 hours to stop save scumming

[rancid juniper]

sheesh

[hoary zodiac]

EU4 has the steepest learning curve of them all

I'd say

[wise wigeon]

oh the 2 comes with 4 buttons?

[hoary zodiac]

EU4 > Victoria II > Crusader Kings II/III > Hearts of Iron IV > Imperator Rome

In terms of learning curve

There's also Stellaris I gues

[lavish stag]

Its still at 45W....

[hoary zodiac]

But that's a micro nightmare

[lavish stag]

Any other ideas?

[rancid juniper]

😡

[hoary zodiac]

Paradox games are pretty steep but they have A LOT of content

[rancid juniper]

thinking

[opaque sedge]

Yuh

They’re pretty nice tried it in elden ring in my faith caster save

[hoary zodiac]

Also

[wise wigeon]

hmmm what are your power settings like your power plan

[opaque sedge]

Felt really good swapping spells and casting in quick succession

[hoary zodiac]

Go on the steam page for Europa Universalis IV

And look at the sheer amount of DLCs

[opaque sedge]

Wdym?

[lavish stag]

I have motherboard 4pin not plugged in but i dont think that matters

[hoary zodiac]

Nope it doesn't

[rancid juniper]

doesn't

[wise wigeon]

not you

[wise wigeon]

wait

do you have vsync on?

[hoary zodiac]

Sore's too busy fiddling with his joystick

[rancid juniper]

@lavish stag you on the latest radeon driver?

[lavish stag]

Lemme check

[wise wigeon]

or any sort of fps cap

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[lavish stag]

Vsync is on

[wise wigeon]

turn it off man

[rancid juniper]

turn it off

[wise wigeon]

lol

[lavish stag]

Kk

[hoary zodiac]

Who uses vsync

[wise wigeon]

sometimes its good in games

[hoary zodiac]

Except laptop users

And weird screen tearing

[rancid juniper]

me because i wanna be different

[lavish stag]

Free sync is vsync?

[hoary zodiac]

Not exactly

[wise wigeon]

no

[rancid juniper]

eh not really

[lavish stag]

Frees ync on?

[wise wigeon]

vsync is usually a in game setting

[rancid juniper]

yes

[lavish stag]

Kk

Yea in game vsync off

[rancid juniper]

Freesync On
Vsync OFF
ENHANCED SYNC OFF

[wise wigeon]

but when you play

is it capped to 60?

[rancid juniper]

AMD Chill better be off too

[lavish stag]

Its off

When i play theres no cap on fps

[rancid juniper]

also whats the refresh rate of your monitor?

[lavish stag]

165hz

[rancid juniper]

check display settings rq

[lavish stag]

Kk

[hoary zodiac]

I want an ultrawide monitor

[wise wigeon]

but you're going over 60 fps?

[hoary zodiac]

Ahhhhhh

[rancid juniper]

no

[lavish stag]

Yea over 60fps on most games

[wise wigeon]

ok

[lavish stag]

There's 1 update for adrenaline ill download rn

[rancid juniper]

ok

[wise wigeon]

try that yeah

[rancid juniper]

while thats downloading can you check advanced display from display settings?

[lavish stag]

I did not know i was getting half my clockspeed xd

[hoary zodiac]

No space

[lavish stag]

Sure, it is on 165 tho

[wise wigeon]

if not get the DDU guide ready

[rancid juniper]

ok good just making sure

[lavish stag]

I did ddu a week ago

[rancid juniper]

😔

[lavish stag]

Xdd

[wise wigeon]

doesnt mean it wont help now

[lavish stag]

Sure

Alr

[wise wigeon]

dont have to do it just yet

[rancid juniper]

tbh if all else fails your last resort is to use that second PCIE slot

[hoary zodiac]

Workspace is cramped as hell

[wise wigeon]

lets see if the update helps

[lavish stag]

Hopefully

[rancid juniper]

math jumpscare

[lavish stag]

Nope

[hoary zodiac]

First year python assignment is killing me

[rancid juniper]

restart your pc after update

[lavish stag]

Oh alr

[fresh timber]

did the latest amd driver limit fps or something

[lavish stag]

Didnt restart

[hoary zodiac]

The coding part isn't even hard it's the "wtf am I doing with these formulas"

[lavish stag]

If its a hardware issue then honestly i wouldnt be too mad

[sweet phoenix]

if after all this it's still not boosting, id consider rmaing honestly

could also try manually changing the core clock maybe

or overvolting/undervolting?

[rancid juniper]

last resort tactic

cant believe im seeing a gpu too scared to sip more power

i know i like low powered cards but this one wants to be anemic

[wise wigeon]

@lavish stag it’s been like this the whole time?

[lavish stag]

I believe so

I have never seen my gpu at 50C since i got it

[rancid juniper]

its time to try that second pcie slot idk

do you have another card with you?

[wise wigeon]

6650xt would be a weak enough card for it not to matter yeah

[lavish stag]

I dont

[rancid juniper]

would be easier to check if the PSU is the problem

[lavish stag]

True

I do have a friends pc i built where i can check

[rancid juniper]

ok

[lavish stag]

Id my gpu is good then it has to be psu?

If*

[rancid juniper]

maybe

[lavish stag]

Damn what a bummer

[rancid juniper]

the cables are probably not supplying power at all, can i see a screenshot of your psu cables?

[lavish stag]

Thx for the help yall

Sure

All of them or just vga?

[rancid juniper]

all

gpu included

[lavish stag]

Kk

Can i leave the cables that r plugged in rn?

Into mobo

[rancid juniper]

yea

[north crescent]

UW good, get two

[wise wigeon]

Could try reseating the gpu idk, PCs be weird like that sometimes

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[lavish stag]

I can do that too

Bet

[dusk knot]

Oh nice. Very affordable

[wise wigeon]

You’d be surprised with the things that get stuff to work

[rancid juniper]

i cant conclude that the gpu is broken when it works

just no extra power being used

and it should've been using atleast 75w

that means the PCIE slot may actually be at fault

[wise wigeon]

Especially if it’s still pushing over 60 fps in some games

[rancid juniper]

yep

[lavish stag]

Ima reseat the gpu before i ss the cables

Reseat in same slot or new slot?

[rancid juniper]

Same slot, if it doesn't work try the other slot

[wise wigeon]

Maybe try out a new slot

[hoary zodiac]

Nah laptop moment

Only one HDMI output

[rancid juniper]

There might a slight chance that maybe the powerstate is bugged

[fresh timber]

theirs a rason ima see if i can get a usb 4 dock

[rancid juniper]

Found the term for it, I remember using it for some old firepro cards (ULPS)

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx6pVKVZGpGyVDtk-2b3FjePNtV-tJU_GJ

[rancid juniper]

Vtubing

[wise wigeon]

I forgot how hot this bench runs with no under volt

[hoary zodiac]

I don't even want a gaming monitor

I just want a 60Hz 1080p ultrawide

[lavish stag]

Whats powr state?

Okayy

[hoary zodiac]

Hmmmm

[fresh timber]

i lowkey would mount that on top

[lavish stag]

So i just reseated it and i saw a white light on motherboard saying vga. Then it said, overclocking failed (oc wasn't on) and booted me into bios

[rancid juniper]

???

[lavish stag]

White light is gone now

[rancid juniper]

What the heck was it trying to overclock?

[lavish stag]

No idea

It seems like my xmp profile got off too

[rancid juniper]

I'm super familiar with that bios screen

[hoary zodiac]

Apparently non gaming ultrawide is not too common

[lavish stag]

Great, what should i do rn?

[rancid juniper]

Ok try to boot into the OS without XMP

We gotta test the GPU first

[lavish stag]

One question

Says current dram is 2400 but on the side sayd xmp profule 1 is 3200mhz

[lavish stag]

What do u click to go into os?

[rancid juniper]

Press ESC and press yes

[lavish stag]

Kk

Done

[hoary zodiac]

Cheap UW

ooooo

Hmmmmmmm

Not sure if this brand is any good

But cheap UW

Welp guess I gotta start saving up

[rancid juniper]

Hulk kogan

[fresh timber]

ngl

this would make a nice 3rd monitor

[hoary zodiac]

@mortal grail do you know if Kogan displays are any good?

[fresh timber]

1440p 34inch would be 🔥

[hoary zodiac]

Non gaming use case, just need the screen real estate

[fresh timber]

o

cheaper

[lavish stag]

No change

I can check 2nd pcie slot

This is what my msi looks like

With oc

I doubt its my motherboard cuz i got a new motherboard 2 weeks ago...

@rancid juniper

I have my sata and molex cables in zip tie

[rancid juniper]

I wouldn't use MSI afterburner to overclock a Radeon card

[lavish stag]

Alr

Anyways, i cant even hit normal max core clock, psu maybe?

I'll go to my friends house to test parts

[hoary zodiac]

Oh come on

[rancid juniper]

Probably, the pcie cords on the left should be the ones used

[lavish stag]

Why the left?

[hoary zodiac]

reeee

Can't claim to be a monarch

Guess I gotta find some other way to larp

[rancid juniper]

is this one connected to something?

[lavish stag]

Nooe

Nope

[rancid juniper]

then dont use it

[lavish stag]

Kk

[rancid juniper]

you have to try either one of these 2 6+2 pins

properly

[lavish stag]

Roger that

[lone mango]

@craggy shoal do you get around the tailscale 3 user limit by using the same account across multiple devices

[hoary zodiac]

What's a ridiculous imperial/royal title

[craggy shoal]

Same account different people? I share my nodes

[lone mango]

Idk what that means I havent used that yet

Hamachi keeps sporadically disconnecting

The hamachi service just stops

[wild lake]

I'm scared to rivals now cuz my mouse kept randomly stop tracking yesterday 😭🥀🪫

[lone mango]

I have to keep restarting it

[craggy shoal]

node = device

[lone mango]

Ok

So how can I implement that with the minecraft server

[craggy shoal]

Tell your friends to get Tailscale. And if they go "no it's a lot of work" tell them to suck it up lol

[lone mango]

If a friend joins the network that would take up a user slot

[craggy shoal]

Yeah so share the node (device)

[pliant berry]

I think the idea is to share the device not the whole tailnet

[lavish stag]

@rancid juniper didnt work. I wonder how afterburner knows my card cant be oc that much in the first place

[lone mango]

This sounds so simple how am i not getting it

Ima install it and see

[craggy shoal]

Brother I’m speaking vanilla English lol

You mean you haven't installed it yet?

[rancid juniper]

can i see your afterburner settings?

[lavish stag]

Yes

[lone mango]

Yeah ill probably understand it when I see it for myself

[pliant berry]

I haven't tried it but I believe sharing device doesn't take up a user slot for tailscale

[lavish stag]

What specifically?

[rancid juniper]

really? wow i never knew that, seriously i overlooked all the leaks and information given from these past few months and never noticed

WOW

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I'd install it first lol. You can share each device through the admin console

[pliant berry]

I think that was a given

[rancid juniper]

copy these settings so msi afterburner won't interfere with adrenalin

[rancid juniper]

fr this was a waste of a post

[lavish stag]

Kk

[lavish stag]

Done

[rancid juniper]

ok

now only use adrenalin, msi afterburner for OSD use

nothing more

[lavish stag]

Got it

[rancid juniper]

also no profiles saved/startup

[lavish stag]

This is automatically up? That normal?

[rancid juniper]

its normal because u enabled voltage monitoring/control

[lavish stag]

Got iy

It*

No change in wattage

[craggy shoal]

Just crank all the sliders

lol

(Don't do this)

[hoary zodiac]

discord lets me larp

based

[lavish stag]

Whats weird is vram clock speed is normal

[lavish stag]

Lemme look at that

Done

I guess ima have to just test it, tysm for the help bro

[rancid juniper]

np

[wise wigeon]

i mean it uses an nvidia chip similar to 30 series, why wouldnt it

[rancid juniper]

i can see nintendo abusing this somehow

[wise wigeon]

was looking so promising then the last scene with its weird run variance tanked the score hard

usueally the last scene boost the average but idk the gpu util tanks super hard in that scene sometimes

prob woulda been closer to my XTX nitro plus scores otherwise

[hoary zodiac]

Is it just me

Or is the sun so bright my displays are looking washed out... Indoors

[rancid juniper]

Turn off bloom + godrays

[hoary zodiac]

Queensland has forced ray tracing

[rancid juniper]

Ah shoot

[hoary zodiac]

And HDR is on at all times

[rancid juniper]

[nocturne flicker]

Sun so bright it makes the sky around it grey

[wise wigeon]

10 fps less with a -500 max frequency offset but it drops the power consumption to 200w

[rancid juniper]

Mmm low power

That's real good efficiency

[opaque sedge]

Guys imagine if those plastic figures melt

[opaque sedge]

Can u do a test with no fh and upscaling

[dusk knot]

😔

Why even get one

[rancid juniper]

fake frames
fake prices
fake stock
fake promises
fake Rops
fake safety

fake drivers too

[wise wigeon]

no the drivers are real

just bad

[dusk knot]

The drivers?

[opaque sedge]

All for real money

[opaque sedge]

They breaking da cards

[rancid juniper]

drivers were bad for a bit

real bad

[rancid juniper]

gotta give him the funds for another leather jacket

[wise wigeon]

doesnt mean its fake though, just bad

[opaque sedge]

So bad i was tempted to update mine to cash in my microcenter insurance to get a 9070xt

[rancid juniper]

i strikethrough it

[opaque sedge]

Unfortunately no 9070xt in stock rn

So i would be risking not having a gpu

[wise wigeon]

as for the safety, for the 5080 there was a single 5080 iirc

[opaque sedge]

I was ready to inherit the name of compooper destructionist

[wise wigeon]

and it was a weird case

[fresh timber]

lol im doing that RIGHT now

[lone mango]

Ok so I installed it and am trying to get my friends on it

[fresh timber]

share the link tothem

[wise wigeon]

stupid final scene tanking good runs

[fresh timber]

did u bet the xtx

[lone mango]

The email link?

[fresh timber]

no just

just share it

[lone mango]

Ohhh

Share the machine

[wise wigeon]

nah i've gotten close but that last scene has some real issues with this card

the clocks drop to like 1600

and i dont recall that happening with the xtx

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber you’re gonna hate me

[fresh timber]

i am

[acoustic palm]

Like heavily

[fresh timber]

did u cancel

[acoustic palm]

My parents paid off 300$ from the gpu/psu

🙂

[fresh timber]

..

[acoustic palm]

It was my birthday gift along with the car

But I literally paid 400$ for a 9070xt

😭

[fresh timber]

tell people u bouhg ta 9070xt for $400

[acoustic palm]

It’s not a lie

[acoustic palm]

Oh yeah also

My friends and I did gambling squared and made money on it

🤑

[acoustic palm]

Wait

Do I get a 9800x3d

[fresh timber]

DO IT

[acoustic palm]

Also I changed the pcpp

[acoustic palm]

600 for 7800x3d and 700 for 9800x3d

[acoustic palm]

Nice

[fresh timber]

go to microcenter

u can get it for nice price

[acoustic palm]

Try out bliss shaders

[acoustic palm]

For the mc bundle

[fresh timber]

all out

9800x3d

why not

[acoustic palm]

Dude

It’s 100$ more 😭

[fresh timber]

DO IT

[acoustic palm]

I’ll look at benchmarks to see the difference

[sweet phoenix]

15%

[acoustic palm]

Ugh

That is a decent increase

[acoustic palm]

The b650-e is good right

[sweet phoenix]

well 10-15%

and yes

[acoustic palm]

Hmmmmm

I’ll think on it

[sweet phoenix]

that's only when you're cpu limited tho

in most games it'll probably be less

[fresh timber]

how about u give me the x3d

[acoustic palm]

Nah I’m good

I’m about to have one of the best pcs ever

For such a cheap price

[acoustic palm]

Hydrodynamics of a toaster

[rancid juniper]

Ok that's interesting but what's the use case?

😳

[wise wigeon]

i mean conquest can't complain hes spoiled too

[fresh timber]

no im not

i dont have a car

[acoustic palm]

I’m infinitely more spoiled then him

I literally won in life

[fresh timber]

he has a 9070xt a car, what els

[wise wigeon]

unlucky

[fresh timber]

its fine im getrting a car for graudation

[rancid juniper]

I have license but no car

☠️

[acoustic palm]

I’m 6’3 at 15, my parents bought me an Audi, my parents paid for 300$ of my pc, and I live a really nice life

I can’t ask for anything more bro

[fresh timber]

i mean becuse of them im able to get a 1.2k laptop lmfao

[wise wigeon]

your parents bought you an audi at 15?

[acoustic palm]

Yes

[wise wigeon]

really are loaded

just ask em for a 5090

[rancid juniper]

Not really spoiled mindset when you're well grounded like that

Audi Saudi

😲

[fresh timber]

It took me so long to earn my pc 😭 I paid for a lot of stuff through stocks

Then Covid hit

[acoustic palm]

Different definitions of spoiled

Ig

[fresh timber]

Aioli

Quok

9070xt or laptop

[acoustic palm]

I literally saved up my entire life pre job for it

[acoustic palm]

For you laptop

[fresh timber]

Mhhh

Bet

Honestly I wanan spend 1.2k on laptop, $120 on 2tb and maybe a egpu dock, and save the rest

[rancid juniper]

Damn if I could rewind time pre covid I'd heavily invest in zoom

Lapper

[fresh timber]

Somebody make 5060

I wanna put one in a gpu dock

[acoustic palm]

My dad had 20 bitcoin but he sold it at 130$ total

[rancid juniper]

💀

[fresh timber]

If I could I’d go back, and spend my life saving on bitcoin

Getting like 200 of those mf

[hoary zodiac]

Invest in theocoin

[acoustic palm]

200?

It used to be worth literally Pennie’s

[tranquil pebble]

fumocoin

[hoary zodiac]

Invest in Serbian Dinars

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber im getting the 7800x3d

[spark halo]

Honestly others options are looking at march madness

[acoustic palm]

9800x3d not worth the extra

[acoustic palm]

Parlay the entire season

On a million dollars

[hoary zodiac]

Did the 9800X3D go up again?

[acoustic palm]

Looking at microcenter bundles

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

7800X3D banger deal?

[spark halo]

Well there is a chance with a newcomer going 30-4 entering first time

[acoustic palm]

600$ for 7800x3f one and 700 for 9800x3d one

[hoary zodiac]

Wait what

Wtf?

[spark halo]

Yep

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Why is it $600

[acoustic palm]

Bundle

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

$600 for the whole bundle?

[spark halo]

Like they are almost guaranteed to win first round pick

[hoary zodiac]

Ok that's not bad then

Ram is sus but

🤷‍♂️

Bundle item

Still a good deal

[acoustic palm]

I was told it’s v good

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

Isn't this the CL36

It's not the best but it works

[acoustic palm]

@sweet phoenix said it’s good

[acoustic palm]

It’s that or this

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's good as a part of a bundle

[lavish stag]

700-800W modular psu reccomendations under 100?

[fresh timber]

why

[acoustic palm]

Not worth the extra money

[fresh timber]

id do itfor the number

[acoustic palm]

Ok well

I’m broke and I need to pay for gas now

[hoary zodiac]

What do your use the cpu for?

[acoustic palm]

Gaming mainly

[fresh timber]

apex legends

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair you're not getting a bad deal with either option so

[fresh timber]

hypixel

[acoustic palm]

C77, doom dark ages, black myth (hopefully), etc

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say both are the same perf/$ wise

[acoustic palm]

The benchmarks I’m looking at say like 10-15% fps uplift

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that's worth $100 imo

[acoustic palm]

And the games I wanna play/play are on the low end

[hoary zodiac]

So both are

Oh

Ok then lol it probably doesn't matter

[acoustic palm]

Either way it’ll run every game I want at high fps

[hoary zodiac]

You'll see uplift but at this point it's matter of do you actually need it

[acoustic palm]

Like I have 100$ buffer money in my bank

[hoary zodiac]

I mean in this economy

[acoustic palm]

The 9800x3d would bring it down to that

[hoary zodiac]

Better to not overspend if you don't need to

[sweet phoenix]

Its 6000c32

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

Must have misremembered lmao

My bad

[sweet phoenix]

Nah nw

[acoustic palm]

It’s 36

[sweet phoenix]

They changed it??

[fresh timber]

you have x3d, ur fine

[hoary zodiac]

I mean even C36 is ok for how much you're paying tbh

It's not optimal but it's not the end of the world

[sweet phoenix]

^ true but thats annoying as hell

[hoary zodiac]

It's not Vengeance

[sweet phoenix]

Without overclocking it doesn't really matter

But its samsung instead of hynix

[lavish stag]

Does evga provide warranty to products from amazon? (Psu)

[fresh timber]

@acoustic palm want me to oc ur ram cuse funny

[hoary zodiac]

Eh?

[sweet phoenix]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't samsung mid for DDR5?

[lavish stag]

Ooo yay

[acoustic palm]

Eh

Ngl

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah but at expo it doesn't make much of a difference

[acoustic palm]

With a 850w psu

[hoary zodiac]

Ah

[acoustic palm]

Idt I wanna oc many things

Well

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it's fine for the price tbh

[sweet phoenix]

850w is plenty

[acoustic palm]

I will be undervolting my 9070xt

So actually

[sweet phoenix]

And ram ocing won't use noticeably more power

[hoary zodiac]

Based

[sweet phoenix]

9070xt is around 350w, 7800x3d is 80w, rest of the system uses less than 75w

Plenty of headroom

[acoustic palm]

If you undervolt and overclock it beats the 5080 by like 1 fps

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

UV core and mem oc?

[acoustic palm]

Iirc yes

[hoary zodiac]

I remember doing that with my 5700XT

Good old days

[acoustic palm]

Also

Idk if the aio I picked out is enough

[hoary zodiac]

Definitely enough

You can cool it with a PS120 too

[acoustic palm]

Doesn’t X3d run hot tho

[fresh timber]

disgusting air

[hoary zodiac]

X3D does run hot but Zen 4 is pretty efficient anyways

[acoustic palm]

Would zen 5 be noticeably cooler

[hoary zodiac]

It'd be more efficient

But probably not noticeably cooler

[acoustic palm]

Hm

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/buttsmarnn-gif-18440715

[acoustic palm]

Alr 7800 it is

[opaque sedge]

The 7800x3d bundle is 600 i believe

[hoary zodiac]

I mean both will be cool

[acoustic palm]

I’m getting that

[hoary zodiac]

But doesn't really matter

[opaque sedge]

The 9800x3d has slightly less desirable ram tho i believe

[acoustic palm]

I don’t wanna spend the extra 100 for fps I don’t rly need

[acoustic palm]

Same ram on both

Cl36 g.skill

[opaque sedge]

Oof when i got my 7800x3d bundle it was cl32 6000mhz

And was significantly

Cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah ik

Just giving you the numbers

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

[acoustic palm]

Meh idm

[unreal trail]

[acoustic palm]

I got one of the best deals ever on my 9070xt so

🙏

[opaque sedge]

480 bucks…

From microcenter as well

[hoary zodiac]

Inflation

Welcome to 2025

[opaque sedge]

Nah its cuz i didnt wait for ryzen 9000 series lol

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

Given how unavailable it was at launch

You'd be waiting for months

For the price to come down

[opaque sedge]

Ryzen 9000 was somewhat disappointing so people flocked towards 7800x3d post launch

And demand and price drove up

Kind of glad i didn’t wait

[hoary zodiac]

The only good cpus are

X3Ds and 9700X (only now that the price came down)

[acoustic palm]

Wait ima look at 7800x3d vs 9700x benchmarks

[hoary zodiac]

A month ago it was just the X3Ds

[acoustic palm]

Cause like extra money in the bank will… kinda but not rly help

[hoary zodiac]

The 3D cache will kill the 9700x in games where it can take advantage of it

[opaque sedge]

Pretty sure only the 9950x somewhat matches the 7800x3d for gaming performance

[sweet phoenix]

You're good

[acoustic palm]

Oh

I forgot

[acoustic palm]

Holy crap it does

C77 was like 70 vs 90

In the benchmark I was looking at

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah considering the marginal increases of ryzen 9000

7800X3D literally beats almost every non X3D cpu

[sweet phoenix]

X3d is typically around a 20% performance boost ye

[opaque sedge]

Guys 💀 https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/QIYuCcAMnw

Over pokemon cards

[hoary zodiac]

THEY ARE FIGHTING AMONG THEMSELVES

THE SCALPER REIGN OF TERROR IS COLLAPSING

[opaque sedge]

No…

This shall only result in stronger

Even more devious scalpers surviving

[acoustic palm]

Oh

[opaque sedge]

Jk

[hoary zodiac]

We need to reincarnate Teddy Roosevelt

And send him loose against the scalpers

[acoustic palm]

Ic

[acoustic palm]

Haha

I made up to 300$ on those today

Lmao

[opaque sedge]

He looks like ron swanson

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

[opaque sedge]

UR ONE OF THEM?!?

[hoary zodiac]

HE DOES AHAHAHAH

[acoustic palm]

Wdym

[opaque sedge]

Pokemon card scalpers

[acoustic palm]

No like from pokemon cards in general

[fresh timber]

YOUR BLACK?

[acoustic palm]

No

[opaque sedge]

Bro vex…

[acoustic palm]

I’m German

[fresh timber]

im black my self

[hoary zodiac]

Why am I not surprised that the meat lover knows who Ron Swanson is

[fresh timber]

quok knows who i am

[acoustic palm]

I do

[opaque sedge]

Never watched the show

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

[opaque sedge]

But he seems to be quite the character

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah he's an uhh

Interesting guy

[acoustic palm]

Nah but my friends and I went to an arcade, my friend is crazy good at this mallot game, we bought 13 packs of pokemon and we pulled a card that can be up to 300$ (it was looking like there’s no mistakes)

[opaque sedge]

Ohh thats nice

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

[opaque sedge]

Never been to an arcade myself

[hoary zodiac]

So it's not direct scalping

I mean I wouldn't even count it as scalping

Pokemon cards are pretty much some of the only resellable items st arcades

[acoustic palm]

It’s gambling squared

[fresh timber]

its a collectors item

its diffrent

[acoustic palm]

[hoary zodiac]

You also had to spend a crap ton of money to win those cards in the first place so

[acoustic palm]

Well

My friend went 8 for 25 for JACKPOTS on the Mallot game

So it was like 150$ for the points we got

[hoary zodiac]

Oh damn

That's skill

[acoustic palm]

And 13 packs is like almost that

[acoustic palm]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

It's not even scalping

[acoustic palm]

It’s scamming the arcade

[hoary zodiac]

Scalpers don't have skills

Honestly based

You get to have fun and make money

[acoustic palm]

Y ah

After that we went and had lobsters too

[hoary zodiac]

Lmao

[acoustic palm]

It’s my birthday party so

[wise wigeon]

damn good deal

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

Was that like

Yesterday or

[acoustic palm]

What was

[hoary zodiac]

The birthday

Or a couple weeks ago

[acoustic palm]

My birthday is tomorrow

The party was today

[hoary zodiac]

Oh interesting

[acoustic palm]

We went today since school tomorrow and today is lobster Sunday

[wise wigeon]

you dont have spring break yet?

[fresh timber]

thats next week dawg

[hoary zodiac]

It's still the 16th where you are right?

[acoustic palm]

Mines in late April

[acoustic palm]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

It's the 17th here

[fresh timber]

lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[hoary zodiac]

Interesting

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

dude i'm finishing class by then

[acoustic palm]

My school is special

[fresh timber]

you go to specialschool?

[hoary zodiac]

Uni?

Or HS

[acoustic palm]

Hs

[acoustic palm]

No

[hoary zodiac]

Ah

[acoustic palm]

The ppl who run it aren’t smart

[wise wigeon]

theyre 15

[fresh timber]

UR A FRSEHMAN

FRSEHMAN

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

[acoustic palm]

Sophomore

[fresh timber]

same thing

[hoary zodiac]

I'm used to being the youngest in chat

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[wise wigeon]

god 15 huh? I really am an old man

[fresh timber]

yah unch

[acoustic palm]

Well

[wise wigeon]

omg

[pseudo raven]

i remmber when i was 15

[acoustic palm]

16

[hoary zodiac]

I'm only 19 💀

[wise wigeon]

you're a gen alpha highschooler

[acoustic palm]

In an hour and 30 minutes

What

[pseudo raven]

it was an insane

[acoustic palm]

Oh

[pseudo raven]

4 years ago

[acoustic palm]

God I keep forgetting

[rancid juniper]

once you hit 20 you hit old man status

[opaque sedge]

What

[acoustic palm]

I’m 2009

😭

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I'm only 19 lmao

[acoustic palm]

Gen alpha is like 2012 or 2013

[opaque sedge]

Effing hell i thought u were older than me

[rancid juniper]

Gen Z is up to 2012?

[hoary zodiac]

Literally just turned 19

[opaque sedge]

I turn 21 next month

[sweet phoenix]

I forget if I'm 18 or 19 sometimes

[acoustic palm]

Mhm

[pseudo raven]

turned 19 last month

[acoustic palm]

I think so

[rancid juniper]

i see

[sweet phoenix]

I think i turn 20 this year

[pseudo raven]

20 is when youre officially old

[hoary zodiac]

Oh so you're one month older than me

Interesting

[wise wigeon]

its 2010

but you missed it by a year

[acoustic palm]

Either way I’m gen z

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wood-movie-omar-epps-gif-25850084

[sweet phoenix]

Idk why but I assumed you were 25ish

[wise wigeon]

might as well be gen alpha

[acoustic palm]

Nah ngl

18 is Unc status

[hoary zodiac]

I talk like a boomer

[rancid juniper]

not really

[acoustic palm]

Please god no don’t group me in with them

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[hoary zodiac]

I don't use gen z-alpha slang

[pseudo raven]

yeah i thought boeing was like 30

lol

[hoary zodiac]

That's probably why I sound older

[acoustic palm]

You don’t group them

[wise wigeon]

your peers unironically watch skibidi toilet

[opaque sedge]

Are u 21 as well…

[rancid juniper]

i honestly can't believe its been 3 years since i left HS

wow

[acoustic palm]

In the middle school

[rancid juniper]

time friggen flies

[acoustic palm]

😭

[opaque sedge]

Same

[acoustic palm]

Not in the hs

[rancid juniper]

yuh

[hoary zodiac]

I've seen a gen-z my age act like alphas

[rancid juniper]

now im suffering in colleg

help

me

[acoustic palm]

Oh me too

But those are rarer then normal ones

[opaque sedge]

Frost u almost done with uni?

[hoary zodiac]

Grown adults btw

[wise wigeon]

i mean you're a middle gen z

[acoustic palm]

It’s like a shiny

[sweet phoenix]

Our generation had pen pineapple apple pen

[rancid juniper]

bro i just transfered to UNI

lmfao

[acoustic palm]

Except it’s worse

[wise wigeon]

i'm early gen z myself

[hoary zodiac]

And MLG teletubbies

[opaque sedge]

Oh congrats

[rancid juniper]

this is my first semester and i cant lie

[sweet phoenix]

We had our own brain rot

[rancid juniper]

i didnt lock in

lmfao

[acoustic palm]

Yeah I remember that

[hoary zodiac]

The hell?

[wise wigeon]

ah yes pyro

[hoary zodiac]

How many of us are first sem uni

[pseudo raven]

took gap year?

[rancid juniper]

I hate discrete math + Java

[acoustic palm]

My sister is

[pseudo raven]

well my school has quarters

[sweet phoenix]

Discrete math was AWFUL

[opaque sedge]

I hate calculus…

[pseudo raven]

im about done with my 2nd

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[hoary zodiac]

First year engineering

How screwed am I

[rancid juniper]

finally someone to vent with

[sweet phoenix]

Logic and theory right?

[opaque sedge]

Well tbf my current prof is prolly the best math teacher i’ve had

[acoustic palm]

I’m doing mechanical engineering

[sweet phoenix]

I took it in my senior year of hs

[pseudo raven]

i finished calc in high school and will never have to see it again

[sweet phoenix]

ECE class

[pseudo raven]

Bless

[opaque sedge]

Actually doing well in homework and tests

[rancid juniper]

i think so

[tranquil pebble]

introducing discrete java