general-chat

[hoary zodiac]

You don't need ddu

On your first install of drivers

[lavish stag]

alr

so i can just download my drivers and it will replace the generic display drivers?

[dense locust]

The generic drivers are there so your pc can show an image so you can install the drivers

[lavish stag]

kk

so when people use ddu, they are usually trying to switch between different graphics card manufacuters or to fix driver issues?

[hoary zodiac]

It's to clean the gpu drivers off the system

So they can then reinstall/install different drivers

[dense locust]

Basically that’s pretty much it

[lavish stag]

cool thanks

[dense locust]

Clean install has no drivers so you need to install all of them not just the gpu

[frigid stag]

Why not just reinstall windows

Ig most people have everything on one ssd so that’s why

[wise wigeon]

hmm lemme hold off canceling that other bundle til wegg gets my order to packaging

honestly that steel legend one with the 9700x woulda been nice

[dense locust]

what are you cancelling now

[wise wigeon]

70 ti

[dense locust]

no more 70ti?

[wise wigeon]

it got delayed and sapphire 70 xt bundles came in

my gripe with the stuff yesterday was the reaper cooler

[dense locust]

so youre going from a 7900xtx to a 9070xt?

[wise wigeon]

sapphire's cooler is just much better than the reaper

[wise wigeon]

only a week into return period on the xtx with amazon

the xtx woulda stayed if i wasn't able to get any xt or ti

lucky fella lol

[wise wigeon]

but yes

i'm on 1440p as much as the 24 gb is nice

its not really a req

[dense locust]

but think of the ai applications!/j

[wise wigeon]

but yeah still overpaying for a 70xt

but at least its a much nicer cooler

[dense locust]

so its... cooler?

[wise wigeon]

hurhur

[tight agate]

Waiting for another SSD before putting the graphic card

[mortal grail]

How much

before tax

[wise wigeon]

also havent cancelled yet

[tight agate]

I got the prime graphic yesterday.

[dense locust]

too much

[wise wigeon]

bundle was 824

[mortal grail]

which psu

[wise wigeon]

rme 750

2025

[mortal grail]

That's barely in I think

[wise wigeon]

i woulda got the rmx but its like over 20 more

[mortal grail]

2025 RMe is worth about 100-110 to me cos braided cabling over an $80 standard 750

[wise wigeon]

thats fair

[mortal grail]

Or whatever that sleeving is

[wise wigeon]

the rmx is 120 rn

the rme is 99

[mortal grail]

So you barely cut it in at 720 on a pulse

Pulse is 620

[wise wigeon]

thats just the normal price on wegg now unfortunately

[mortal grail]

You make it in what I'd consider ok rn for a gpu price

[wise wigeon]

i'd still prefer a pulse over the gaming oc i had cancelled on me

[mortal grail]

Pulse is good

[wise wigeon]

gaming oc does have 3 8 pins though

[mortal grail]

Binning doesn't exist on GB tho

[wise wigeon]

i would say oh it has ptm but i think most of the cards are ptm rn

[mortal grail]

3x8 but bad asic often will lose to a good 2x8 with good asic

We saw that a lot in Ampere era

[tight agate]

Great price if you want one.

[mortal grail]

Jfc

😂

So yeah less all the differences I reckon you ended up about 700 or 695 for the pulse there @wise wigeon

That's an excellent price for a new gpu rn

[wise wigeon]

better than what i paid for the XTX lol

[mortal grail]

You factor tariffs on top (Supposedly...jury is out on that one) you'll be faring about 640-ish?

That's honestly really good

[wise wigeon]

with the difference I could get a matx mobo and dan a3 lol

[mortal grail]

Hell yeah

Dan A3 is awesome man I highly recommend it

I'm about to build a second one

I like it that much

[tight agate]

336 people were save that day

[mortal grail]

[wise wigeon]

I'll think about it when there is away this nice mobo and case I have now woudn't be wasting away

because if i got a dan a3 and swapped over i'd have a big ol antec flux and overkill x870 mobo just hanging around

[tight agate]

This is today.

[wise wigeon]

ngl I think the steel legend with the 9700x was a better bundle

because the 9700x alsoo comes with mh wilds

[mortal grail]

How much

[wise wigeon]

like 920

decent deal

OOS though

[mortal grail]

Hmmmm

I'd pay like, 250 for a 9700X

[wise wigeon]

steel legend is a white card

[mortal grail]

Cos it's barely better than a 7700X in most uses

[wise wigeon]

so it had the white tax

[mortal grail]

Ik

670-ish for Steel legend

You paid a little more for a pulse less tariffs involved

I'd actually argue the pulse is the better deal

[wise wigeon]

but then you get a copy of mh wilds too which runs rather well on the the 70xt

[mortal grail]

Oh true

You're right if you like wilds

Which I think you do right

[wise wigeon]

so if you were getting wilds its a -70 to -50 dpending on what you value games

[wise wigeon]

i mean i have it but I have family and friends who want it

[mortal grail]

My 7950X3D came with TLOU P2 I just remembered

Lmfao

I never claimed it

[rancid juniper]

It's wild how many copies they sold

[mortal grail]

[rancid juniper]

Can I have it?

[wise wigeon]

8 mil in like 3 days or something

[mortal grail]

Go ask amd

[rancid juniper]

Aight

[mortal grail]

That chip is dead in a bin anyway

[wise wigeon]

didnt realize p2 even came out on pc

[rancid juniper]

Every publishers dream

[rancid juniper]

Well it's not out just yet

But it's coming

[mortal grail]

Eh?

[wise wigeon]

you might haven gotten the remaster

[mortal grail]

Oh remaster

Oh maybe I'm thinking of part 1

Oops

That game was so bad though

[wise wigeon]

I wouldnt have claimed p2 either ngl

[mortal grail]

I was so turned off I didn't even bother claiming it

Lmfao

I can download a PS3 emu for free and run it better than the native port

[wise wigeon]

"reveng bad lel don dew it"

[mortal grail]

4K gameplay on the rpcs3 version looked better at max settings and ran easier than the native port ever did

[wise wigeon]

eh

[mortal grail]

I was impressed people even gave it time of day

[mortal grail]

It really did, we had a HUGE argument in gen chat about it when it came out

[wise wigeon]

the ps3 def didnt have the updated models and textures of the remaster but yeah it would run better

[mortal grail]

Yeah you could upscale it

The aliasing of the remaster looked that bad

[wise wigeon]

actually no youre right

if its the remaster

the remake is what i;m thinking of

[mortal grail]

We need a refresher lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m8ORMMeI38

[wise wigeon]

the remake is the ps5 remake

[mortal grail]

Remaster?

[wise wigeon]

which does look a lot better

[mortal grail]

I would hope so

[mortal grail]

I could believe it if they don't butcher the pc port

Oh yeah that's right

Part one kept crashing on the shaders part

Hahaha

Most people couldn't play it

[wise wigeon]

honestly as good as the remake is

[mortal grail]

Haha

[wise wigeon]

i think the less realism helps games age better

[mortal grail]

He grew a torch

[wise wigeon]

he also cured his jaundice

[mortal grail]

[dusk knot]

must be a strange mutation

[wise wigeon]

huh? why

i guess it also comes with wilds so

still not good

[dense locust]

Newegg never misses a chance

[wise wigeon]

i mean people buy em so

[mortal grail]

THEY'RE ALL BAD

ARGH

URGH

MY HEAD

[wise wigeon]

honestly with the savings from the xt bundle i could opt for a nice juicy AIO

[mortal grail]

[wise wigeon]

but

the phant spirit is fine

[mortal grail]

Based cooler

If anything you could go lower with A620 SE but it's probably too late for that and only $5

[wise wigeon]

it is too late but its ok

[dense locust]

$20 savings is more than the 50 series

[wise wigeon]

i mean the value of the cpu wasnt great either

[mortal grail]

LMFAO I forgot hogwarts had this issue

[sterile dagger]

thermalright aio 😳

[dense locust]

Blobfish looking mf

[wise wigeon]

yeah they're cheap but kinda loud unfortunately

[mortal grail]

Same price as an i9, same price as last gen, 9800X3D with 9950X capability

I mean yeah

[sterile dagger]

oh makes sense they have high rpm fans right

[mortal grail]

For 95% of people it's not gonna be even mildly worth it

But there are some people who that makes a LOT of sense for

[wise wigeon]

like if you're a gamer and also heavy production idk ii'd just get a non x3d

[mortal grail]

People who WFH and also game in production jobs would be perfect

You get the best of both

[wise wigeon]

a 7900x is like 340

[mortal grail]

Engineering also falls into that a good degree

[dense locust]

[wise wigeon]

and if you play at 4k then

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah but we're also on terms of the premium

[wise wigeon]

the value diminishes more

[mortal grail]

If they're getting a 9950X3D they're def getting an expensive af pc

It's definitely like

Ok

[wise wigeon]

its 700 msrp right?

[mortal grail]

Look at it more like in terms of dollars saved per hour

Rather than dollars spent day 1

It's the kind of cpu where if you use it heavily enough it makes the money back faster

But very, VERY few people make sense with that use case

[wise wigeon]

still havent cancelled the ti bundle yet in fear that wegg cancels my xt bundle

[mortal grail]

Valid fear

[dense locust]

Why do cpus only have 1 version but gpu have many

[wise wigeon]

?

[mortal grail]

I mean if you want scalability you go HEDT/Server

[dense locust]

Imagine board partner cpus

[mortal grail]

That's a good question tbh

[dense locust]

They’d prob have better cooling potential than amd made cpu

Maybe I shouldn’t give the industry ideas

[mortal grail]

Idk if I'd want to have to pick between a stock 9800X3D and an "ROG" 9800X3D where it has special vents and 30 stickers for $100 more

[dense locust]

$300 more

[tight agate]

No paying for that, honest opinion.

[mortal grail]

Need to also note there definitely are better options, totally agree

Vast vast majority of people buying that cpu won't make equitable sense with it

[true dove]

hi

[tight agate]

hello

[dense locust]

I guess the release is at 6am pst again

[wise wigeon]

SMH what happened to getting a sapphire mousepad from buying a 9070xt

I dont see it on my end

[dense locust]

What’s a good cooler for a 98 3d

[dense locust]

Isn’t it in the box?

[wise wigeon]

is it?

when i added a bundle earlier to compare them one bundle had it as a seperate item

[tight agate]

I got a Thermalright Peerless Assassin for it

[mortal grail]

Dual tower up to 360mm if pbo

7800X3D on the other hand, single tower more or less maxes it out

[wise wigeon]

cache spot change fixed the temp issues, so AMD decided lets max it out

people on threads just saying oh its normal for it to hit 95C, yeah sure its in spec but def not a comfy temperature

[fresh timber]

420mm AIO all the way to a peerless

[fresh timber]

Is 9800 hotter

[wise wigeon]

yes

[fresh timber]

Hotter cause theirs no more x3d blanket?

[wise wigeon]

on average it consumes like at least 20 more watts

[fresh timber]

Ain’t nothin anyways

[dense locust]

Oh I know one had a mousepad might’ve been a diff version
Maybe it’s in a different package

[fresh timber]

Uses less than my cpu kek

[wise wigeon]

intel moment

i mean i cant talk I had a 10700k

[fresh timber]

I had a 11600k pull 200w

Lolll

[dense locust]

I still need cooler case mobo and ram

[mortal grail]

Yes cos it boosts way higher

[fresh timber]

No more x3d blanket does wonders

[mortal grail]

If you run it at 7800X3D tdp it runs cooler than 7800X3D

Due to flipped vcache

[dense locust]

[fresh timber]

7800x3d runs cooler than a 7800x3d

[mortal grail]

"Run it at"

[fresh timber]

My English sucks ngl

[mortal grail]

[dense locust]

It’s a weird sentence

[mortal grail]

I'm paraphrasing a bit

Lol

[fresh timber]

Yeah

[dense locust]

I had to triple take

[tight agate]

Mine getting better.

[fresh timber]

So what I’m hearing is 7800x3d could run have a higher tdp if their wasn’t a blanket of cache covering the cores

[dense locust]

Didn’t the 9000 series move the cache?

[fresh timber]

Yes

It’s below now

[mortal grail]

I often help 2-3 people at once when I'm in chat here so I cut down some words here and there to save time

[mortal grail]

Yes it flipped it to underneath

[fresh timber]

Focus on me only

I’m more important

[mortal grail]

Impotent

[dense locust]

Wow that’s a real word

[fresh timber]

I’m bored this weekend should I oc with telegram sticks

[mortal grail]

Go for it

[wise wigeon]

hmm is this lucky them or oh god the prices are that bad?

[mortal grail]

5070Ti better at the same price

[wise wigeon]

oh it is

for sure

[fresh timber]

I wonder how fast two Corsair can go, I’m ngl Corsair ain’t bad like I thought. 4000 In mf gear 1

[wise wigeon]

and if they're close enough to msrp this is good

[dense locust]

When 32 core cpu?

I need it to assemble imaginary code I won’t ever use

[wise wigeon]

but if this is like a EU situation where 9070xt is 1100 euro

not so good

[dense locust]

“How do we fix the energy crisis?”
“Tax the hell out of gpus”

[fresh timber]

I what a 9070/9070xt

[fresh timber]

Ooo it’s getting worst

Canada is taxing energy we buy from them

[dense locust]

Gas prices aboutta go up

[fresh timber]

Yup

[dense locust]

At least 25%

Let’s go

[wise wigeon]

i mean this is a bit much

[dense locust]

Average amd fan

[wise wigeon]

if you want the most for your money at the smae price the ti is just better

[mortal grail]

I mean I did this but instead of 5090 tbh

[fresh timber]

Nvidia fan that uses common sense??

[wise wigeon]

but dude is acting like amd aint do sus stuff

[dense locust]

Speaking of spite does userbenchmark prefer intel gpus or do they only simp their cpus

[fresh timber]

I prefer Nvidia but they suck right now personally

But I’d love a Nvidia over AMD

[wise wigeon]

yeah but picking a worse card out of spite is a bit much

[dense locust]

Nvidia’s sales are insane in the last 2 years alone

They went from majority gamer supported to business supported

[wise wigeon]

If amd was market leader it would be doing the same things

[dense locust]

Gamers only make less than 10% now

[dense locust]

So amd cpus will start being bad?

[wise wigeon]

the only reason they cater more now is because they're the ones catching up

[dense locust]

[wise wigeon]

uh yeah

[mortal grail]

This has already happened

[dense locust]

[mortal grail]

💯

[wise wigeon]

zen 5% remember?

[mortal grail]

AMD is if anything worse when it wins

[wise wigeon]

companies are not your friends

[dense locust]

Well I assume because node shrinks are getting harder and harder

[mortal grail]

But we don't want one destroying the other

Many companies is the consumer W

[wise wigeon]

so thats why I think the comment was a bit much, because like out of spite is a bit crazy as if AMD wouldnt do the same stuff if they could

[fresh timber]

I wouldn’t call it the worst card

9070xt can beat a 5070ti

[wise wigeon]

it is though

[fresh timber]

Can you even buy a Nvidia gpu

With out fighting

[wise wigeon]

did twice this week remember?

[dense locust]

No the worst card is the 5070

[mortal grail]

Same can be said in reverse, the ultimatum is the price

[fresh timber]

Twice far.

[wise wigeon]

im honestly getting hella 70 ti and 80 nitifications but the prices are just not it

[fresh timber]

I’d just buy the AMD card with plenty stock so I’m fighting kids in the microcenter parking lot for the rare Nvidia

Less stress too

[wise wigeon]

there were like 20 different times i coulda bought a 5080 this week but the price is just not it

[dense locust]

I paid too much

[fresh timber]

What’s the performance per dollar of the 5070ti compared to 9070xt

[wise wigeon]

msrp?

[dense locust]

But at least I don’t have to worry about this anymore

[fresh timber]

Cheapest market price for both

[ebon lava]

Hey everyone I’m a young dad and have finally gotten to the point that my wife will allow me to start gaming again. Is there any blueprints in this discord for components needed to build certain ranges of gaming quality?

My question I have is I would like to know what I would need to play any game at 1440p ultra and hit 240hz or more at basically all times. Is this even possible?

[mortal grail]

If nvidia had all their cards in stock at actual msrp, and not some fake upmark or adjusted "tariff" change I'd be quite positive of them despite the 12vhpwr cconcerns

[wise wigeon]

14% more value at msrp

[mortal grail]

Same to be said of AMD, I'd flip on a dime if AMD just pushed their new cards up 20%

[gentle canyon]

@elfin mural

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[fresh timber]

5070ti 14%?

[mortal grail]

9070XT

[fresh timber]

Same

[fresh timber]

I’d rather 9070xt then

Better performance per monies

[mortal grail]

I often get mistaken for an AMD simp, I actually don't care for any brand I just am objective about the results

[wise wigeon]

this is just based on pure performance numbers before you take anything else into affect

[mortal grail]

I simp for intel more than both

[fresh timber]

Gimmick tracing?

[wise wigeon]

its not a gimmick man

[fresh timber]

I’m ngl, iv been playing a some games with it, ain’t even that amazing

[wise wigeon]

you gotta stop pretending it is

[dense locust]

Then buy the Arc A580

[fresh timber]

Until it’s no longer optional in majority of games I’ll call it a gimmick

[fresh timber]

If they make something like 7900xt performance I would

[wise wigeon]

except its an option in like 90% of new games

[fresh timber]

You can turn it off

[dense locust]

Intel definitely could make a high performing card

[fresh timber]

Stuff like India jones dude you can’t turn it off

[elfin mural]

two birthdays

fr

[fresh timber]

A lot of the games I play don’t even have raytracing it’s funny

[dense locust]

99.99% of games

There’s only like 5 games where it’s required

[fresh timber]

Yeah, when that number grows I’ll consider raytracing important

[gentle canyon]

are you also unc status

[dense locust]

I just assume raytracing will catch on so devs have to spend less time with the lighting

[wise wigeon]

but yeah, given they are the same price the ti is 5-8% faster, 20% faster in RT, less power, DLSS library is just way more vast, and generally just better in productivity

picking the other card out of spite is a bit much

[frigid stag]

Amd users dont like ray tracing because their gpu can’t run it well along with some copium
I don’t like ray tracing because mouse feel is better without it. We are not the same

[elfin mural]

yes

[dense locust]

Ray tracing has too much ghosting

[fresh timber]

Unironically I enjoy raytracing but I enjoy the higher fps more

[elfin mural]

i use nvidia but i hate ray tracing

and i enjoy higher fps more

[fresh timber]

I have a 240hz display, I can see more than 120

[frigid stag]

What nvidia gpu

[elfin mural]

you'll say it's not good for rt anyway

but 4050

[frigid stag]

Well ye no wonder

[fresh timber]

What dlss and raytracing isn’t important to the user

[wise wigeon]

plus with the price hikes the new price for the lwest end AMD cards are 700-730

[elfin mural]

which i agree is not an rt card

[frigid stag]

Amd might be better in rt in that category

[elfin mural]

i'd happily use rt if i had a much better gpu

[dense locust]

I probably won’t use it much

[frigid stag]

Do you use upscaling with it

[wise wigeon]

discounting dlss is foolish

[dense locust]

I tried to use it in Minecraft it’s grayed out and disabled can’t enable it

[wise wigeon]

especially when native with TAA looks worse in a lot of scenarios

[frigid stag]

~~ do you have Radeon by chance~~ (joking)

[dense locust]

Yeah I have a Radeon 5080xtx

[wise wigeon]

I didn't know minecraft had upscaling lol

[wise wigeon]

ryzen 5080

[frigid stag]

~~ might be a rx580~~

[fresh timber]

Native res is better

[wise wigeon]

this kid man

[fresh timber]

Also fsr4.0

[dense locust]

I run like 40 fps with rt at 4k in mc

[fresh timber]

I’m not wrong tho

[frigid stag]

Native always better true

[fresh timber]

Those cards can easily run 1440p native

[frigid stag]

Dlss is a bandaid fix for not enough fps

[fresh timber]

Upscaling really is a cop out anyways for bad development

[wise wigeon]

not with a lot of the antialiasing these days

[frigid stag]

That’s dlaa

[fresh timber]

Fsr at native res

Xess too

[wise wigeon]

you know DLSS has a native option too right?

[fresh timber]

Fsr4.0 exist

[fresh timber]

Not dlss

That’s dlaa

[frigid stag]

Isn’t that just dlaa

[wise wigeon]

yeah its an ooption under DLSS

[dense locust]

TAA be like:

[fresh timber]

I don’t even use anti AA, I turn it off for fps unless it makes the game pop

[wise wigeon]

the presets are ultra perf, per, balanced, quality, DLAA

[dense locust]

I dunno why I can’t enable dlss

In mc

[wise wigeon]

for fps?

[fresh timber]

Yes

[wise wigeon]

what games are you playing that AA is that hard hitting

[frigid stag]

5080 can’t get 60 fps in minecraft

Lol

[fresh timber]

I bought 240 so I want 240

[frigid stag]

ATP just use different shaders

[storm narwhal]

I only turn it off if it's TAA

[frigid stag]

It’s obv a game issue

[fresh timber]

Not much, I just turn it off and when I don’t even notice it, it stays off

[dense locust]

You you should be happy the 5600x can get 40fps in rt mc

[mortal grail]

Think the three things I hate the most in games, bad shadow tones (Kill me I stg), unnecessarily low fps, and bad aliasing

[frigid stag]

What’s your gpu usage

[wise wigeon]

they're knee capping the 5080 hard with a 5600x

[frigid stag]

Well it’s easy to check

[fresh timber]

Lmfao you should go into random servers with me and you should ask why your 5080 is being so slow and mention your cpu at the last second

[mortal grail]

Textures at an honourable mention cos I play at 4K so I must use good textures

[storm narwhal]

"But with the 5070 and DLSS, you can get 45fps!" -nvidia, probably

[frigid stag]

5600x isn’t a terrible cpu

[dense locust]

I had a 2700x before

[fresh timber]

I have games that littelry Loose!! Fps if I use upscaling it’s funny

[dense locust]

Ranges from 80%-99%

[wise wigeon]

i hate shadow quality popin

[fresh timber]

I litterlry get lower fps if I upscale on Fortnite

[dense locust]

I can check rn if you want

[frigid stag]

Probably not cpu sometimes then

[wise wigeon]

if its 80% at times?

[frigid stag]

“Sometimes”

[mortal grail]

This sorta goes hand in hand with upscalers cos the base fps sets the input latency

[frigid stag]

And idk how accurate it is to measure it in this way but wouldn’t that mean you can get 20% more fps only?

[mortal grail]

To which yeah, I HATE lag

But it's tangent to the fps primarily

[frigid stag]

20% over 45 fps still isn’t good

[storm narwhal]

But think about multi flame gen!

[dense locust]

I get higher furmark scores on Linux than I do on windows

[storm narwhal]

Triple digit fps with huge latency!

[wise wigeon]

depends on nthe latency diff for me, but since i play high refresh its mouch less of an issue

[fresh timber]

I hate lag

[mortal grail]

The latency hit for frame gen is a serious turn off for me outside of like, casual games

Couldn't care if it smooths the game out

[fresh timber]

If I feel it I hate it

[mortal grail]

Totally

[frigid stag]

It’s probably even more important at high refresh rate

[wise wigeon]

1ms is a killer if you're playing 30-60 fps

[mortal grail]

Reaction based games deserve no frame gen

[wise wigeon]

at 140_ not so much

[fresh timber]

I’d rather 60fps with quick snappy latency over “120” with it

[dense locust]

I’m too lazy to go on my pc so here an old video

[frigid stag]

It’s a much smaller difference going from like 25ms to 26 latency. Compared to like 5 to 6

[fresh timber]

Ehh, on marvel rivals I used frame gen with a 180fps base and you can still feel it

[wise wigeon]

depends on what that latency is closer to

[fresh timber]

Until I can no longer feel it I will hate in it

[frigid stag]

It always adds delay

[wise wigeon]

see i'm a person that when it goes under 60 fps i can feel it pretty hard

[mortal grail]

Yeah but feeling it is different to experiencing it

[dense locust]

Just by how it works it will always add delay

[mortal grail]

If I feel the delay forget it

I turn it off so freaking fast

[fresh timber]

Reminder, I can see 240 frames per second I see everythinggggg

[frigid stag]

When not one of them has made it into any high rank in any game or understands how it works beyond watching Ltt reviews and maybe a few articles here and there

[mortal grail]

I'll be caught dead doing that, cos I actually play better with better input lag

[dense locust]

60hz is placebo you can’t see more than 30fps

[frigid stag]

Suffering from success

[mortal grail]

<Played at an international level so I guess I earned that right

[fresh timber]

Lmfao I wanna see somebody use that Nvidia latency tester with frame gen vs no frame gen

[frigid stag]

Who did

[dense locust]

Ltt never released a 9950x3d review

[mortal grail]

Me

[frigid stag]

??

Seriously

[mortal grail]

Uh yeah

[frigid stag]

Damn

[dense locust]

Their mouse video was obviously more important

[frigid stag]

What game

[mortal grail]

I went to Seattle, Mexico, I was also invited to London, Japan, Le Mans

[frigid stag]

I didn’t know you were an esports player

[mortal grail]

FM7

I was a ForzaRC finalist

[fresh timber]

Elden ring is such a bust, doesn’t even natively support ps5 controllers

[frigid stag]

Ah

[mortal grail]

And that game you notice input lag so easily

[dense locust]

Naw your controller is just drifting

[frigid stag]

I didn’t know they had tournaments for those ngl

[mortal grail]

It changes how you drive

[dense locust]

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't even touch them now cos the new game sucks ass

[fresh timber]

No it’s not

[dense locust]

The one time I didn’t put /j because I thought it was an obviously stupid statement

[frigid stag]

Were you sponsored or like on a team

[fresh timber]

It messes up the second I press a trigger, but in any other game and in gamepad testers reports nothing wrong kek

[frigid stag]

Or just solo

[fresh timber]

Elden ring is pure garboooo

[mortal grail]

I was sponsored

[fresh timber]

Fastest return ever

[mortal grail]

I went through two teams at an esports level

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[dense locust]

Woah there you might get canceled for statements like these

[mortal grail]

We had fanatec, even a real ALMS team at one point

[frigid stag]

Damn

Nice one

[mortal grail]

It comes up every now and again lol

[fresh timber]

Add native ps5 controller dupport then your not Garbo

[mortal grail]

I even have DLC in project cars 2 with our team liveries

[fresh timber]

Side note, if their 5090 uses ai to make up new frames.. what if it’s wrong??

[dense locust]

Go play Elden ring on ps5 you clearly have the console

[wise wigeon]

oioiooioi

[dense locust]

[fresh timber]

Why? I have pc

[frigid stag]

PS4 controller feels better IMO

[fresh timber]

Good thing you said IMO

[dense locust]

I don’t like the side by side sticks

[frigid stag]

I need to get another one before they sell out

[dense locust]

IMO ps5 is the ugliest console ever made

[wise wigeon]

nah xbox controller inferior frfr

[dense locust]

I would like the Xbox controller if I didn’t have both of mine start drifting

The $30 wired replacement has lasted me 4X AS LONG WTF

[wise wigeon]

how do they still not have gyro after all these years

[frigid stag]

This would go so hard

[dense locust]

You can probably name the games that support gyro on one hand for ps5

Which is odd

[wise wigeon]

but gyro aim in general feels good

its great on switch

[fresh timber]

It is techncily inferior

[wise wigeon]

still using friggin AA batts

[fresh timber]

The dynamic triggers isn’t much of a gimmick when a lot of ps5 games implement it

[dense locust]

It’s odd because the third party Switch fps games have gyro but the ps5 versions don’t

[mortal grail]

@frigid stag https://fixupx.com/FlexibleFelix/status/1004132483237986304

[wise wigeon]

you def feel em in the games that implement it

[fresh timber]

I added dynamic triggers to Forza

[dense locust]

I use rechargeable batteries get rekt

[fresh timber]

Bro it really does make the game more immersive, when I play the crew motorfest it lowkey be making me right to break my car

[mortal grail]

JDC was the team I was sponsored by at the time from ALMS

[wise wigeon]

actually I think when I was using a ps5 controller on PC some of them still used the dynamic features

feel like cod def did because I was grinding camos and sometimes i'm just too lazt to sit up

[fresh timber]

Xbox just sucks

Out dated tech

[wise wigeon]

i mean the controller hasnt changed since the xbone

[dense locust]

I mean

How long did you have the DualShock for lol

[fresh timber]

I have a Xbox and pa5 controller lmfao

[fresh timber]

I still have my original

[wise wigeon]

still have it

[fresh timber]

Still fictions

[dense locust]

I prefer Xbox feel

[fresh timber]

Mines has no drift too Lmfaoo

[wise wigeon]

same, but the rubber has stuff on it now

[fresh timber]

I like not having to buy battery’s when I can use the electricity my mom pays for

[fresh timber]

Oh yeah mines is goin

[wise wigeon]

there are the weird bumps that form too

[fresh timber]

Otherwise controller needs a battery replacement at most for me

[dense locust]

I use rechargeable ones

[fresh timber]

That cost money too

I’d rather just use the electricity in the walls

[dense locust]

Well did

I can’t use them anymore

[wise wigeon]

rn i use a 8bitdo though

[dense locust]

I just use a wired controller now

[wise wigeon]

halleffect sticks are nice

[fresh timber]

Why charge battery’s just to plug into the controller when you can just charge the controller

[dense locust]

Just learn soldering skills to replace your Sony made controller

[dense locust]

Because my controller lasts more than 6 hrs on a single charge

[fresh timber]

Plug it in, easy

Another 6 hours

[dense locust]

Why is Sony’s battery so awful

[fresh timber]

A sign to go take a break or something

[fresh timber]

Our controllers have a lot more going on

[dense locust]

So do Nintendo’s

[fresh timber]

Not compared to Sony

[dense locust]

They last the longest

[fresh timber]

Not even close

[dense locust]

Besides the useless triggers what else does Sony have

[fresh timber]

Joy cons have touch pads?

Rgb?

The triggers?

[fresh timber]

“Useless”

[dense locust]

Ok now that’s one way to waste battery

[fresh timber]

That’s why we die faster

[dense locust]

Those have always been a gimmick

[fresh timber]

We have more

[fresh timber]

The games are built around them

[dense locust]

Games just stopped supporting them

[fresh timber]

You know the console they the controller is made for?

[wise wigeon]

CRT best tech frfr

[dense locust]

Too bad You gotta be 25+ to use one comfortably

[dense locust]

Not the pc

[wise wigeon]

lemme just run my arms against the screen to feel the static pull

[fresh timber]

Your going to be shocked when I show you that even Xbox originals can work with the triggers

[dense locust]

You’re*

Dunno I still don’t see the point in them

[fresh timber]

It’s immersive?

Have you even tried it

[dense locust]

So is vr

[fresh timber]

Correct

Not everyone can afford a VR

[dense locust]

Are adaptive triggers on ps vr2

[fresh timber]

Yes

[dense locust]

Makes more sense

[fresh timber]

Don’t really see a problem with the triggers anyways, if you don’t like it turn it off

[dense locust]

Sony needs to solve their battery issue for their controllers

[fresh timber]

It’s a non issue

[dense locust]

It’s an issue

[fresh timber]

You plug the controller in and move in

They give you a usbc cord

[dense locust]

More battery cycles = less battery lifetime

[storm narwhal]

That's 1m?

[fresh timber]

That’s what my extension is for kek

[storm narwhal]

Also battery life really does matter on the controller if you play more than like

2 hours

[fresh timber]

Plus when it’s dead it’s a sign to get off the game you played too much

I can get through my entire day pretty much, then charge at night

[dense locust]

I don’t ever do that

[fresh timber]

And if I’m in my pc I just plug it in

[storm narwhal]

Dont you just use your ps5 for youtube

[fresh timber]

Mostly, I play a few games like spiderman

Runs way better on ps5 than pc rn

[storm narwhal]

Bad port

[fresh timber]

Yup

I just plug the controller into something to charge it, or I get off and go on my pc again

I stopped using my Xbox controller because.. I got tired of buying battery’s kek

[worn wave]

Rechargeables have come a long way

I have a couple that have usbC charging ports, pretty convenient

[storm narwhal]

bro never heard of rechargeable AAs

[fresh timber]

Extra money

Duh

[storm narwhal]

More than buying a bunch of disposable single use batteries?

[fresh timber]

Why would I buy batteries when I can just use a controller with battery’s already in it

[storm narwhal]

Because when the batteries stop working you can get new ones without tearing into the controller

and removing the tiny connector

going somewhere on ebay, buying a battery you have to kinda hope is the right one with the right voltage and connector

Or pay someone more than the battery is worth to do it for you

or buy a new controller, as most consumers would do

[worn wave]

You can get em for pretty cheap nowadays

[storm narwhal]

He's speaking like it's like 500 dollars

[fresh timber]

PS4 controller battery still decent after all these years

[storm narwhal]

Same for my rechargeable AAs lol

I just pop in the other 2 when my current two die

all I need is a set of 4

[fresh timber]

That’s what I’ll do in the future, rn I’m broke asf after prom tickets and saving for car

I got 5 more years out my controllers anyways

Good enough

[weak cedar]

I used the same batteries for my alarm clock for 4 years 😅 till they really died

[worn wave]

I remember when rechargeable AAs were terrible

Like, you had to have a specific charger, they charged super slow, and didn't hold much of a charge either

[weak cedar]

Ya they still can be you have to look at the mah, on them

[fresh timber]

It’s crazy how my ps4 controller I got at launch still works with no issues

Iv had ps3 ps4 and ps5, amazing decides

[worn wave]

Crazy rng to not get stick drift

Or you just have big deadzones idk

[fresh timber]

I have amazing rng, I can over clock four Corsair rams ticks to run 4000mt/s

[fresh timber]

It’s at the default setting s

[weak cedar]

I do remember the charger's and certain batteries back in the day
lead acid, NiCd, NiMH and Li-ion

Now it's mainly nimh and li-ion

[dense locust]

Xbox and tv remotes keeping the battery business alive

[weak cedar]

Mine did forgot the brand

[fresh timber]

My remote is rechargeable it’s so cool

Aka my phone

[dense locust]

How will I Telly without a heavy mouse then?

That’s such a specific thing I don’t anyone would get it

[weak cedar]

Was it HyperX?

[worn wave]

Logitech g502 dumbell

[pseudo raven]

true

my mouse today is 1/3rd the weight of the one i started with

[fresh timber]

I used to like heavy mice

[worn wave]

"b-b-but I want to be more accurate"
Turn down your dpi. Just turn down your damn dpi, it's better for your aim and your wrist.

[storm narwhal]

or just lower your game sensitivity lmao

[mortal grail]

G502 is like the caseoh of mice now

[storm narwhal]

or both

Why do you think it comes with extra weights bro

[mortal grail]

My old mamba was about as heavy as a g502

[pseudo raven]

yeah people think weight = quality

same reason why some headphones have extra weight in them

[storm narwhal]

Ah yes, the weights will make my mouse lighter

like ???

[worn wave]

Yeah it kinda is for me actually

[pseudo raven]

ok for anyone that plays a shooter i dont get it

other stuff sure

[frigid stag]

If you don’t have something this light and are complaining about weight ggs

[mortal grail]

For me it's more I don't understand why people still pick logitech since 2024

[worn wave]

The only time I see heavier has better for mice is for those angled ergonomic ones; for those I think a heavier baseight be good to stop tipping

[pseudo raven]

hes like a fat exception to the norm then lol

[mortal grail]

That company wants you to rent a mouse

Not own one

Stupid lady let the idea slip in an interview

I'll never live that down

Bruv he's built like a goat ong

[pseudo raven]

i do have a truly light mouse

39

sorav2

for like a year yeah lol

but honestly this mouse on 8k would suffer

[mortal grail]

Oh no I'm only 58g

I don't exist

[pseudo raven]

battery is too small

[mortal grail]

[pseudo raven]

when i used it on the competitive wireless or whatever the battery was already only like two days

on 8k it would literally be like

half a day or something

no on regular 1k it lasts like a week

which is fine by me i mean

you can just use it plugged in for like 20 minutes if it dies on you

[storm narwhal]

8k seems like a gimmick anyway

[pseudo raven]

ive tried 4k i dont notice much

[mortal grail]

4K gaming

[pseudo raven]

ive tried it on 240

[storm narwhal]

I mean it'd just chew away at your cpu util

[pseudo raven]

its noticable but not at the cost of battery life

[mortal grail]

It's not *if the sensor is good

[fresh timber]

Gn pookies

@mortal grail the pookie at of them all

[mortal grail]

Good sensor 1K >>>> Bad sensor 8K

[mortal grail]

It be at the yes of times

[pseudo raven]

yeah i can not go back to wired

[mortal grail]

I wish I could go back to the wireless magnetic mats

[pseudo raven]

no

[mortal grail]

No wire and no battery was so nice

[pseudo raven]

i dont really want a doohickey on my desk

not to mention all the good wired mice are not shapes id really want to try

other than maybe op1

[mortal grail]

Like it was a meme at the time but the mamba hyperflux I had was and still is the best mouse I have ever used until it double clicked

That mouse was just

FREEDOM

[pseudo raven]

but also like

how is it so heavy

it doesnt even have a battery inside

[mortal grail]

The hyperflux?

Magnets

[pseudo raven]

no the op1 8k

[mortal grail]

Oh

Spray paint

Wait

No you can't do that

3d printer tho

[pseudo raven]

ngl people care too much about build quality

or maybe im just more gentle with my mouse

as long as the clicks are good

[tight agate]

I am happy with my new 9800X3D, no need for new models lol.

(Just seen the insta post)

[nocturne merlin]

are fractal aspect 14 fans bad? everyone is saying they're loud or that they have bad build quality. I was gonna get the focus 2 case mostly cause of the included fan cost but I'm rethinking it now

[random osprey]

for the purple op1 though specifically that thing at times came shipped cracked cause some of the screws in the base were overtightened or would later crack with some pressure to the side walls. i assume its fixed by now but the build quality was definitely somethinmg

but overrall ye some people care bit too much about build quality.

[elfin mural]

my next mouse won't be a logitech

but AA battery powered mouse is a must for me

i hate charging

[fresh timber]

Heavyyy

[fresh timber]

You know theirs chargeable micr that last a week or so right

[pseudo raven]

ok never mind that is really bad build quality

but people complaining about plastic creaking when they squeeze it way harder than they ever should for exampl

[elfin mural]

i want one that lasts months

then i can charge it once

i don't mind the 99g+

[random osprey]

ye, especially when theyre pressing on a really thin part. like yeah its gonna creak when you press there

[elfin mural]

i got weak arms but the weight never bothered me

[pseudo raven]

the thing with weight on mice is like

blissful ignorance

you feel like its ok

and then you try something lighter and youre like how did i ever live without this

same thing with keyboards

[elfin mural]

my opinions might change if i get lighter mice

but tbh

[pseudo raven]

yeah

[elfin mural]

as i am right now

im fine

[pseudo raven]

theyre quite cheap at the moment too

well they have been for a while now

shoutout china

[devout forum]

Hold on

9950X3D actually not crap?

[mortal grail]

I mean, the 7950x3d wasn't either once it had enough updates

It just doesn't make sense for the vast majority

[devout forum]

Fair enough

Also this is kinda insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUDT4Fn522w

[lone mango]

Tried 1440p with my 6600 and it worked way better than I thought

Just gotta use fsr on everything

[pseudo raven]

💀💀

what are they cooking

[storm narwhal]

OH GOD NOT THE SHIP OF THESEUS

[dense locust]

Is that the one where they ask “if every part is replaced is it the same Ship”?

[tranquil pebble]

yes it is

[mental yoke]

is it?

[mental yoke]

[slate fractal]

The Going Merry was repaired countless times

its not the same man

[tranquil pebble]

almost looks like Persona 5 Futaba

[mental yoke]

33% cus i use lifeline

[lucid bay]

Could someone help me

[topaz crown]

Hello @lucid bay! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[lucid bay]

My pc’s motherboard boot light shows up but there’s no display on GPU

I’ve tried everything

[open knoll]

gpu cooked

[lucid bay]

I just bought this…

[mental yoke]

sometimes you have to gently coax the electricity into the gpu using ancient indian rain dance techniques

https://tenor.com/view/danza-dancing-dance-moves-maracas-box-on-head-gif-17214764

[lucid bay]

Bro does it sound like I’m joking

[mental yoke]

not that technique though

[lucid bay]

I just spent all my money

On a 5080

I reseated everything

[mental yoke]

does ur cpu have a igpu

[lucid bay]

No

[mental yoke]

do you have another gpu laying around

[lucid bay]

Ya

[mental yoke]

swap

[open knoll]

is the gpu plugged in all the way?

[lucid bay]

Yes

[open knoll]

is the power cables connected

[lucid bay]

Yes

[mental yoke]

.

[open knoll]

did u use the provided gpu pcie or whatever

[lucid bay]

Still nothing

[lucid bay]

Yup

[mental yoke]

u swapped gpu?

[lucid bay]

Yes

[mental yoke]

so its not the 5080 👍

[lucid bay]

If I just put all THIS MONEY

INTO MY NEW BUILD

[open knoll]

bro got a defective gpu

[mental yoke]

have u had it post to bios at all?

[lucid bay]

I’mma break this damn monitor

Yes

Before I did

Now it’s not

[mental yoke]

before installing the 5080?

[lucid bay]

I’ve tried multiple monitors

[mental yoke]

what was the other gpu?

[lucid bay]

Tried it with an r9 380 and a GTX 1070

[open knoll]

send me the gpu let me fix it for you

[lucid bay]

There goes all my money

[open knoll]

tarrifs made gpu prices a lil crazy

curse you trump!

[mental yoke]

reseat erything on mobo and get it to post

prolly only need cpu/ram

one ram stick, breadboard it

[open knoll]

maybe ur ram is bad

[lucid bay]

Ahah

Found out the problem

[lucid bay]

^

[open knoll]

yeah i had that problem before

cuz i didint plug it in all the way

[lucid bay]

It’s not booting still

[open knoll]

restart

[mental yoke]

can u get to bios

bios is the goal

[mortal grail]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-is-investigating-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5080-instability-issues

[mental yoke]

we can call it uefi if u wanna be fancy

[mental yoke]

sometimes i like buying things a few months later 🫦

[mortal grail]

Black screen 5080 can be likely described by just bad drivers from nvidia

[mental yoke]

id prolly revert drivers untill i found a stable one

[mortal grail]

They keep issuing "hotfixes" with no known clear resolution

[mental yoke]

theyll run fine on old drivers

[open knoll]

yo are the amd proccesors worth gettting if i have a 9800x3d

[mortal grail]

Except you need 572 or newer for 5080 basically and they all carry the risk

[lucid bay]

Reseated, now red cpu light

[mortal grail]

571 or older is safe

[lucid bay]

I’m not doing this rn

I got a lot on my mind

[mental yoke]

it just not gonna work if i got old drivers on and sit a new gpu in ? bet it would

[lucid bay]

I’m not in the best state of mind anyway

[mental yoke]

❤️ take care js

[open knoll]

yeah these new gpu be a little buggy rn

[mental yoke]

^

[mortal grail]

I mean take a walk from it man, 50 series is a loaded gun

If you got an igpu, try that tomorrow

[mental yoke]

new tech is always growing pain

it shouldnt be but it will be.

[lucid bay]

I’m so done bro

[mortal grail]

I've built a bunch of pc's, can't think of 1 that didn't have some sort of needed solution

[mental yoke]

every single thing needs some sort of attention

[lucid bay]

WAIT

OMG

[mental yoke]

otherwise it wouldnt exist

[lucid bay]

*with test card

[mortal grail]

So not 5080 ye?

[mental yoke]

which card

[lucid bay]

I’mma test it now

[mental yoke]

cus if its amd u need to wipe ur drive

[mortal grail]

Ok have faith

Set your pcie slot to gen 2

It improves your chances of the 5080 working

[lucid bay]

THANK YOU LORD

THANKS Y’all

It’s working

[open knoll]

howd u fix it

[mortal grail]

Patience

[open knoll]

ahh yes

[lucid bay]

Thank y’all

[mortal grail]

If the 5080 don't work, sleep on it, come back tomorrow

I've seen multiple 5080s with the problem

It's not a unique thing

It's quite likely fixable

[lucid bay]

Okay, thanks

Yeah the 5080 won’t post rn

Only the R9 380 will

The GTX 1070 won’t either

[storm narwhal]

The fact that this is a solution

Shame on you nvidia

[tranquil pebble]

Nvidia fired their QC department ig

of all the jank I have seen with older Radeon GPUs... PCIe version was never one of them

[lucid bay]

I swear if I just spent all this money on this GPU

I’mma cry

And prob do sum else too

[proud jackal]

[lucid bay]

Like…

This was so much money

I’ll never financially recover from this if the GPU is the problem

[open knoll]

tryint to get a 50series on amazon is impossible without a bot

[tranquil pebble]

people should go touch grass instead of paying scalpers IMO

[mental yoke]

i can buy a 5080 with grass?

[limber crane]

probably shouldnt have bought it then

[devout forum]

Quick mute happened

[mortal grail]

Lad, real talking point for you here. Nothing isn't able to be fixed. But there is a such thing as maturing your spending

It's not really my place to talk about but whatever the case may be, it can be fixed

[pliant berry]

Why do I always just open the chat when this happens

[lucid bay]

It’s not just one GPU it’s 2 that aren’t booting

The r9 380 does tho???

[mortal grail]

It can be fixed

[lucid bay]

How so

[mortal grail]

The fact one boots is a strong indicator the pc is fine

[lucid bay]

It’s not the slot, is it?

[mental yoke]

troubleshooting in general is not fun ultimately

[mortal grail]

Like I said sleep on it. More people will be around to help tomorrow and I have a lot to do tonight

One way or another it's fixable

[lucid bay]

Yeah I was going to, just can’t stop thinking about it…

What if I messed something up

[mortal grail]

If the gpu is intact then first and foremost you can get your money back quite easily if it's not working

There are laws to protect you in these situations

[lucid bay]

Ok

[mortal grail]

Just get some sleep lad

Have a good breakfast

Think about it tomorrow

It posted

[lucid bay]

Ok

Thx

[mortal grail]

Excellent news honestly

[lucid bay]

It in fact did

[mortal grail]

That means at least 95% is working fine

Worry about it tomorrow

[lucid bay]

Mk

[mortal grail]

And let this also serve to not buy anything ahead of your own capability

Whether it works or not, this will be a good lesson lol

Everyone starts somewhere

[lucid bay]

Will a B+M key work in an m.2 slot???

[mortal grail]

As the saying goes you aren't born out the womb knowing mozart

[lucid bay]

That’s my one final question

[mortal grail]

Yes if the manual states so

[lucid bay]

Ok

[mortal grail]

Get some rest

[lucid bay]

Jokes on you, I was

LOL

Ok sleepy time now

[unreal trail]

Im doing better than that, I'm planting grass

[mortal grail]

Sigma detected

[fresh timber]

I think @mortal grail needs to go outside for a few hours

[mortal grail]

Wym