What were we up to today bois
#general-chat
mortal grail
hoary zodiac
Alfred was up to me today
bro got nerfed but is still coming
The stupid bastard is sitting off the the coast
Bro is quite literally taking the piss
devout forum
black or white desk for a gaming setup?
devout forum
Interesting
mortal grail
Black you really want like, a proper contrast to see things
Black also shows dirt easily
devout forum
I guess the white at least contrasts with my mousepad
mortal grail
Dust you can see so easy on black lol
I recently swapped to white if you remember
I easily prefer it
devout forum
These are the choices
mortal grail
Def white
devout forum
(it's the exact same desk in two colors)
mortal grail
That's a really easy choice there lol
devout forum
Motorized too so it's sit-stand
devout forum
:3
devout forum
I'd need a stepstool for that
mortal grail
felix is now a mod
I got offered like a year or two ago, decided to finally step up for having chat control
paper verge
bro really just wants to ban people now
wise wigeon
You get your xt yet?
devout forum
like
mortal grail
You get your xt yet?
Not ready yet no
wise wigeon
Ugh but like bro can’t believe I caved
devout forum
How is your pc
7600X, 2×8 6000CL40 (Hynix sticks) with a 6700 XT and a 180hz monitor
wise wigeon
7600X, 2×8 6000CL40 (Hynix sticks) with a 6700 XT and a 180hz monitor
What do you need to upgrade for your setup?
mortal grail
Half rank ddr5 gone is a start
wise wigeon
Omg cl40
devout forum
Desk, cable management, UPS, audio interface and microphone, webcam and lightbar
wise wigeon
Do you need all that stuff?
devout forum
that's what I can all get for the price of the upgrades I'd do
rough zinc
bro really just wants to ban people now
Nah, only wants to ban me
wise wigeon
Like you’re actively using that stuff?
mortal grail
Desk, cable management, UPS, audio interface and microphone, webcam and lightbar
Do you have regular blackouts
rough zinc
Yes
devout forum
Like you’re actively using that stuff?
I'm going to start streaming (maybe even vtubing) once I have the webcam
devout forum
Do you have regular blackouts
No, but we do have pretty bad storms in the spring and autumn
wise wigeon
Thought live2d models used like phones
mortal grail
No, but we do have pretty bad storms in the spring and autumn
Don't need ups
rough zinc
Don't need ups
How am I supposed to get my packages delivered then?
mortal grail
Lightbar is also neither here nor there
wise wigeon
I mean I live in Florida I should have one lol
mortal grail
How am I supposed to get my packages delivered then?
Fedex footy kicks
devout forum
Lightbar is also neither here nor there
it's just something I threw in there cuz I have no desk lamp of my own
rough zinc
I thought it's recommended regardless
It's nice to have but if you don't regularly experience power outages or blackouts it's not really necessary
devout forum
and I study at my comp desk too
devout forum
It's nice to have but if you don't regularly experience power outages or blackou...
my fear is more a storm frying my setup
mortal grail
my fear is more a storm frying my setup
Won't happen with a proper psu
rough zinc
I've just been living off a surge protector and it's all you need imo
paper verge
I've just been living off a surge protector and it's all you need imo
your psu is meant to protect against surges
wise wigeon
Surge protectors do work if you get a good one
mortal grail
Yeah get a UPS if you need to keep a pc running critically or live where power is unreliable
devout forum
maybe 5 or 6 times a year
mortal grail
Don't get it just to have one
mortal grail
maybe 5 or 6 times a year
That's not nearly enough imo
mortal grail
though it's *supposedly* only gonna fry the PSU ye
Won't. Only if it truly sucks or your house is wired like ass
wise wigeon
SMH when you don’t have to large hurricanes a year
devout forum
Won't. Only if it truly sucks or your house is wired like ass
My guy we spent 4 months last year rewiring everything in the house with like large gauge copper wires
Even made a mfing blueprint of all the work
mortal grail
My guy we spent 4 months last year rewiring everything in the house with like la...
You definitely don't need it then
New house electrics I'm not even worried
devout forum
the idea was to have it be between the wall and the TV, networking gear + PC
so that nothing gets damaged even if something went wrong
paper verge
ive known people rewire mansions in 2 months
devout forum
but I can shift it down in priorities
mental yoke
u can rewrite a mansion in a day if u got everything staged
mortal grail
Japan rebuilds stations in 4 hours
mortal grail
@devout forum i really wouldn't worry about it
devout forum
moving furnitures out of the room, breaking down the walls to remove the old wires and all that
mental yoke
if u hire 40 people u could do it a lot faster
mortal grail
If surges are a common thing there then sure but 6 blackouts a year, meh
devout forum
me, my stepdad, mom and sister
devout forum
If surges are a common thing there then sure but 6 blackouts a year, meh
I don't think they are?
power seems pretty stable overall
paper verge
If surges are a common thing there then sure but 6 blackouts a year, meh
6 blackouts a year are like 3rd world standards
devout forum
though I wouldn't want to XOC using it
mortal grail
I don't think they are?
Do you lose a device or two a year to a bad surge
paper verge
pretty much how iran runs
devout forum
Do you lose a device or two a year to a bad surge
Not that I know of
devout forum
I already have a power bar that is supposedly surge protected
Buuuuuut I dun really trust it all that much
mortal grail
Then get a proper power board
mental yoke
i was thinking about getting link mobile home batteries for rooms
mortal grail
Proper psus have isolators for surge protection
mental yoke
but i honestly do not want a lithium ion battery exploding anywhere enar me
mortal grail
but i honestly do not want a lithium ion battery exploding anywhere enar me
Fully agree tbh
Li ion is a lot of nuisance
mental yoke
u see that one video of the dude in china who had a bike battery explode while he was carrying it in an elevator? drowned in blood basically from the damage it did to inhaling
id need to port it outside in some way if it failed
most batteries arent that poorly made though but still its a thing that could happen
mortal grail
id need to port it outside in some way if it failed
Out of the sun
Biggest issue with those is heat
mental yoke
heats fine i just dont want to drown in blood 
mortal grail
Lithium cells go up just by being in the sun, to use ebikes for example
It's a common problem where I am
In the cool, in the shade, where there's nothing flammable
That's the best place
mental yoke
i wanted little wheely mobile battery power stations and id just feed everything off it and let it be drip fed from the house but.... ideas
devout forum
mortal grail
You could buy that ye
devout forum
it allegedly has Ethernet protection too?
mortal grail
Better than a ups imo (in terms of need)
paper verge
yall realize a simple capacitor can protect against surges?
mental yoke
i wanted these
paper verge
why are yall overreacting now like its the 1990s
surges dont really do much unless its a crazy flux
devout forum
I don't think that's an RJ45 port on it
mental yoke
i just want it incase brown outs or w/e
devout forum
That looks to me like an RJ11 port
rough zinc
me, my stepdad, mom and sister
Please tell me one of yall is a licensed electrician
mortal grail
That looks to me like an RJ11 port
That's 45
devout forum
Please tell me one of yall is a licensed electrician
we had a licensed electrician oversee our work and he nodded on it
mortal grail
So he just stood in the corner and nodded
rough zinc
Ahh props to yall then, that's actually a big accomplishment
mortal grail
paper verge
like bro your saying rj45 protection
cat 6 does 48V2A thats like what a $1 capacitor handles
mental yoke
"yes yes touch those wires together oooh yea"
paper verge
its literally nothing
devout forum
like he said "it's TECHNICALLY not regs work cuz y'all used better stuff than new building regs say, you're fine"
rough zinc
The stuff I've seen people DIY when I was apprenticing under my now ex's dad is wild
devout forum
Yeah we weren't BSing
mental yoke
splicing grounds to live to jank tap in a power outlet
devout forum
that's scary
mental yoke
thats fun
mental yoke
bet that smells wonderful
devout forum
anyway
rough zinc
bet that smells wonderful
Tastes even better
devout forum
That's 45
I trust you on that, it'd be nice to not have to unplug everything every time
paper verge
well i mean there is always the guys who charge crazy for amazing cable routing, but either way its not like you cant get away with a poorly routed cable box
mortal grail
I trust you on that, it'd be nice to not have to unplug everything every time
I mean if $20 makes you feel better sure, just as long as it's not a $400 UPS
mortal grail
well i mean there is always the guys who charge crazy for amazing cable routing,...
I've had sparkies that do it free
mental yoke
Tastes even better
we had a system embedded into the back of a mobile platform that caught on fire once and u could only get to it by crawling into a giant cylinder to get to it, and whatever they used on those industrail things was like... toxic. so ur crawling in smoke/soot/dust of highly toxic electrical bonding chemicals
devout forum
I mean if $20 makes you feel better sure, just as long as it's not a $400 UPS
only 270
mortal grail
Hell I charge pretty simple rate for cable managing
mental yoke
im sure ima have fun cancers later
devout forum
2200VA
paper verge
I've had sparkies that do it free
well that just shows that your skill suck
devout forum
APC one
devout forum
I can get it for much cheaper tbf
mortal grail
well that just shows that your skill suck
I didn't do that panel there lol
paper verge
yall worrying about surges its just as stupid as people thinking static electricity does anything to modern motherboards lmfao
devout forum
but I heard that if you get a UPS it should be high tier
mortal grail
If that was me it'd look better than my pc and bloody colour coded
rough zinc
Hell I charge pretty simple rate for cable managing
Can you come manage my cable?
mental yoke
yall worrying about surges its just as stupid as people thinking static electric...
it can, it just doesnt happen often
devout forum
https://ipon.hu/shop/termek/powerwalker-vi-2200-shl/2063555
This IDK whether worth it
mental yoke
ive defntly static zapped a mosfet and killed it
paper verge
it can, it just doesnt happen often
yeah - it doesn't.
devout forum
but it is like 130 bucks
mortal grail
but it is like 130 bucks
Don't need
mental yoke
yeah - it doesn't.
ok
paper verge
pretty much all modern well built pcbs have esd protection built it
mental yoke
ok so its impossible to happen
rough zinc
we had a system embedded into the back of a mobile platform that caught on fire ...
Thats actually terrible
mental yoke
thanks
devout forum
it's a nice to have (y'know even if power does go out, you can stay online and whatnot)
paper verge
yes its physically impossible
mortal grail
it's a nice to have (y'know even if power does go out, you can stay online and w...
You don't need that
Lol
mortal grail
If you are worried about no power, get a generator
paper verge
i never said that
mortal grail
Not a ups
paper verge
im sure some static killed someones dads circuit in the 1980s
but no static gonna be killing an ROG board in 2025
mental yoke
ud be surprised the kind of static u can build up in certain geographic areas
ive arc'd a good 3 inches in dust storms
paper verge
and youd be suprised how a component as small as your finger nail can discharge that much static
mortal grail
@mental yoke you in a dry area
devout forum
ive arc'd a good 3 inches in dust storms <:kekw:741678350791081994>
B580'd?
mental yoke
i been all over
mortal grail
Cos static is common there
devout forum
:3
pliant berry
Ltt had a pretty good video about static and pcs
mental yoke
it doesnt happen often
devout forum
Lightning strikes
paper verge
your building is meant to protect against that
mental yoke
grounding the space station is fun
paper verge
What im just tryna say is that with the modern standards we have in 2025, if they are followed, you don't gotta worry about all that bs
its just advertising and consumerism
mortal grail
Think the last time I felt a static shock was a few months ago, I don't even worry about grounding myself it's so rare
mental yoke
boy cry wolf though, it can happen
rough zinc
Can I kill @mortal grail with static?
mental yoke
⚡
mortal grail
Can I kill <@101107951401455616> with static?
Palpatine lore says it's possible
devout forum
I suppose that surge suppressor would be enough to stop that
rough zinc
If old boards can be killed, close enough
devout forum
and if it dies, it's cheaper to replace than a 200 dollar UPS
mortal grail
Yes you really don't need a ups
paper verge
and if it dies, it's cheaper to replace than a 200 dollar UPS
surge protectors dont even die and they protect against that
go buy the really good ones on aliexpress
mental yoke
i actually was rubbing the bare cpu on a 2080ti on the carpet when i was sticking a water block on it
devout forum
Aite then I'll switch it down the line
rough zinc
Belkin is really good and fairly inexpensive
Also comes with a 15k equipment warranty
paper verge
Also just so yall know, i got a whole UPS built into my house to me its nothing more than a hastle
mortal grail
Belkin is really good and fairly inexpensive
Ima be real with you rn
rough zinc
i actually was rubbing the bare cpu on a 2080ti on the carpet when i was stickin...
Did the same thing with my 4090 
mortal grail
Belkin
devout forum
sadly I dunno if they're being sold here
mortal grail
Is like
mental yoke
the worst paert about surge/static protection warnings, is when idiots ground them selves to the chasis and then turn power on while working on the pc
paper verge
changing the batteries is more pain than the power running out twice a year
mental yoke
like bruh ur so close to completing the circuit please dont
rough zinc
Top 3 for most faulty brands I own
LOL actually?
I mean the charging cables are kinda mid but everything else 0 issues
mortal grail
I've had more belkin cables fail than generic random amazon/aliexpress crap
mental yoke
ngl apple cables = 🤤
rough zinc
Yeah
mortal grail
#1 would be nanoleaf tho
rough zinc
Wtf is nanoleaf
mortal grail
Failure rate of 3 for every 1
rough zinc
Oh those dumb LED panels
paper verge
bruh really?
mortal grail
paper verge
how are led panels bad
like on a electronic standpoint i thought it was really hard to mess that up
mortal grail
how are led panels bad
I've replaced each set 3 times under a 2 year period via warranty
And yes
How
Tf
devout forum
Is Club3D good with cables?
mortal grail
Is Club3D good with cables?
They're ok
Hot take I think cable creation make decent stuff
Ugreen too
rough zinc
Amazon basics cables>>>
mortal grail
Ugreen I've had like no bad cables ever
rough zinc
I've also had great luck with Anker cables
mental yoke
i dont think ive had any bad anker stuff
rough zinc
Im using their charging station, some 45w usbc/USB(normal) block and a lot of their USB-C cables
Haven't had a single one fail
paper verge
Just so yall know
When it comes to chargers, specifically talking about gAn
big names like anker and ugreen usually are the ones that suck the most
mental yoke
Haven't had a single one fail
ive had 4 of these for travelling for awhile and love them
mental yoke
big names like anker and ugreen usually are the ones that suck the most
suck in what way
mortal grail
When it comes to chargers, specifically talking about gAn
Don't own any gan but will note that. I was considering one
mental yoke
im not sure what gan is besides some charging spec?
mental yoke
gimme tb5 power
paper verge
suck in what way
Temps, flux in voltages, outputs. i was buying a GAN charger for my sister and went down the whole rabbit hole, from what i saw from many many comparisons and benchmarks its always the weird chineese ones that are like half the price and way better
mental yoke
that 240
mortal grail
Temps, flux in voltages, outputs. i was buying a GAN charger for my sister and w...
CN has a huge push for fast charging
mental yoke
i want to say its just power but i also know the difference in quality
paper verge
fast charging is just a gimmick isnt it though?
mortal grail
Tons of chinese mobile phones have like 80+W fast charging
mental yoke
no
mortal grail
fast charging is just a gimmick isnt it though?
Asia loves it man
Qi wireless is considered a gimmick
mental yoke
5 mins for a full iphone, why not?
mental yoke
i like wireless
paper verge
Qi sucks
mental yoke
wireless doesnt suck though,
mortal grail
Mag wireless is nice
paper verge
Asia loves it man
i thought companies just limit phone charging
rough zinc
Ahh i have Anker's 250w GaN charger and 0 issues from the few months I've had it so far
paper verge
wireless doesnt suck though,
More expensive, heats up more, and takes more time
i dont see the benefit
mortal grail
i thought companies just limit phone charging
RM 10 pro does 120W fast charging lmao
rough zinc
Use it for my phone and laptop and it works great
mental yoke
benefit is ill pay for it and deal with those u dont have to 😄
mortal grail
i dont see the benefit
Being able to just put it down without making a mess
mental yoke
i like throwing my phone and not plugging it in
paper verge
RM 10 pro does 120W fast charging lmao
thats not what i meant, as in connect another 120W power to it and it doesnt fast charge
mental yoke
i want to get logitech lightspeed kb/mouse on a charging mat
mortal grail
thats not what i meant, as in connect another 120W power to it and it doesnt fas...
They do that too
For CN phones fast charging is a feature
mental yoke
https://www.anker.com/products/a2345-anker-prime-charger-250w-6-ports-ganprime?
i wish it had wireless charger on top
paper verge
i want to get logitech lightspeed kb/mouse on a charging mat
id use QI for that all day
not for my phone though
mental yoke
i regret not getting huaweii before i left asia
rough zinc
I feel like Qi charging is just a big gimmick
mental yoke
there watch and phone combo is nice
mortal grail
https://www.anker.com/products/a2345-anker-prime-charger-250w-6-ports-ganprime?
Was talking about ugreen in particular
Lol
rough zinc
Ahh
mortal grail
I feel like Qi charging is just a big gimmick
It is for many. I like it cos I hate having cables everywhere and I never need a fast charge
paper verge
I feel like Qi charging is just a big gimmick
The heating is the main concern i had
mortal grail
It's one of the 3 big reasons I picked the phone I did
paper verge
QI is the one place where apple actually does a good job
mental yoke
ngl apple watch not able to be used on a normal mag safe charger kinda irks me
paper verge
and its because they use good conductive metals
mortal grail
Magsafe is def better
paper verge
Basically in apples term
mental yoke
magsafe is nice
paper verge
Lower wattage (with apples cooling) > higher wattage(cheap chineese plastic)
mortal grail
But wireless charging is actually a make or break thing for me on phones lol
mortal grail
If I can't just put it down after work on the wireless pad then idgaf
mental yoke
ive honestly made it a point to not buy anything that isnt usb-c either
mortal grail
I don't wanna shuffle my drawer for a stupid charger and wire
mental yoke
tired of micro-usb cables laying around
mortal grail
tired of micro-usb cables laying around
And they tangle
mortal grail
Like we're fussing over something small sure, but the option is just, so nice to be able to use it
mental yoke
honestly, this is a more obscure use case, but i can charge my phone wirelessly and use the port for full fledged data in/out
it might not seem like much but when ur doing certain networking thing it helps
mortal grail
honestly, this is a more obscure use case, but i can charge my phone wirelessly ...
I would say similar to an aux jack
I want to have the option to continue using the phone for music or whatever if I need to charge it
mental yoke
yea thats one problem with usb tethering and charging and why wireless can solve some stuff on it
but i love throwing my phone somewhere to charge but even the magsafe has a lot of compatability issues with cases more than like 2mm thick
mortal grail
Oh yeah
It's truly a gimmick without the magsafe stuff around now
Getting it to charge properly
paper verge
i never got the point of USB-B and micro usb
storm narwhal
And no one decided to implement qi2 as well
mental yoke
god i hate micro usb so much
storm narwhal
so
mortal grail
i never got the point of USB-B and micro usb
Cable spec in general is a whole can of worms
Why hdmi and dp
But also 10 versions of hdmi 2.1
Why 30 usb connectors but like 4 types can be usb 4
Lmao
fresh nova
Someone just said I give manager vibes idk if I should be offended or thankful…
mental yoke
Someone just said I give manager vibes idk if I should be offended or thankful…
can i get a raise?
fresh nova
I was a manager for 3 years, guess I picked up the demeanor
paper verge
Cable spec in general is a whole can of worms
Remember, HDMI gives digital content protection, DP doesnt
mental yoke
educating people on the standard of the cable and the cable actually being the standard is a never ending battle
paper verge
Gen 2x2
oh god not that again, i literally took months of my life learning all different cables
mortal grail
Remember, HDMI gives digital content protection, DP doesnt
But like if they actually did things properly we wouldn't have tons of specs dictating what 2.1 is, is my point
fresh nova
can i get a raise?
Dolla bills yall
paper verge
and id be lying if i knew what the diff between those were
mortal grail
You can buy a 1.4a hdmi and it can be 2.1 now
storm narwhal
lmao what
mortal grail
Cos the publisher of the spec changed the way it qualifies
storm narwhal
standards be damned
storm narwhal
I did not hear about this
mortal grail
Lemme see if I can dig it up
storm narwhal
not a story the jedi would tell you
mental yoke
so they regressed some standard at 2.1 that 1.4a had to change to meet but when it was regressed 1.4 already met all the reqs?
mortal grail
Yeah here we go, my brain had it halfway there
2.0 not 1.4a
But similar big issue
mental yoke
mortal grail
Cos you can buy 2.1 thinking it does 38.4gbps, then it doesn't
mental yoke
thats a nice infograph leme peek it
mortal grail
Dp at least has the decency to mark this with dp 2.0/2.1
Dp40 and dp80 is the marking
rigid seal
computer engineering vs computer science?
mental yoke
whatever ur job wants u to have
yea 2.0 to 2.1 isnt bad, i was like literally going to be blown away by regreessing 2.1 to 1.4a lol
cus thats a lot
mortal grail
This is such an annoying thing on monitors
paper verge
bro i'll bet you 100 bucks you cant tell me what any of the last 7 can do
mortal grail
Many say "2.1" now but don't do actual 2.1 bandwidth
mental yoke
bro i'll bet you 100 bucks you cant tell me what any of the last 7 can do
inject ai into ur tv as soon as ur thinking stuff, ezpz
mortal grail
enhanced audio return channel
That's for soundbars
Iirc it's for passthrough audio via hdmi
mental yoke
ive never used arc
mortal grail
Most people don't
mortal grail
then what is DVD-audio
Lol I never learned that one but I'd like to think it's straightforward
mental yoke
then what is DVD-audio
there are a lot of really weird old standards hidden amongst computer systems, like windows has some stuff lol
mortal grail
Dvd audio being 1.1 spec probably as old as I am
mental yoke
dvd audio sounds like it was gonna be popping then blu-ray came along
tech just runs over previous tech
pliant berry
Having audio and arc over hdmi is so nice for home theater setups
mortal grail
Yeah earc is a whole thing for people
mental yoke
im just gonna go basic and get a sonos set
paper verge
i never even know what bluray did
mortal grail
Dvd but better
mental yoke
its old
mortal grail
Like straight up
mental yoke
its all... uhhh 4kuhd now
? i think theres something newer
my movie tech is lacking
mortal grail
Blu ray was a sony thing wasn't it
mental yoke
yea
mortal grail
Proprietary tech
mental yoke
are they doing 8k physical media?
mortal grail
are they doing 8k physical media?
They shut down the last plant this month so idk
mental yoke
why would anyone want 8k physical media
i have a massive 4uhd steelbook collection
pliant berry
Many films aren’t even shot in 8k
mental yoke
sitting in my dark dolby digital room with atmos is an experience
pliant berry
Not nearly enough to start selling movies in 8k
mental yoke
yea 8k will be a weird jump in display tech relying on a lot of ai upscaling i guess
mental yoke
They shut down the last plant this month so idk
wait for what?
paper verge
arent 3rd world countries still on 720p?
mortal grail
wait for what?
Blu ray
paper verge
lmfao
mental yoke
Blu ray
there has to be some media places still, physical backs up arent going to go away
pliant berry
Well I believe DVD is 720p
mortal grail
there has to be some media places still, physical backs up arent going to go awa...
Optical media is still getting better but it won't be sony this time
mental yoke
ah
mental yoke
we still use tape
mortal grail
Jeez I've never seen anything like that before
mental yoke
thats not my pic but we had one similar
paper verge
i dont even think thats real
mortal grail
You guys on tape cos it's reliable despite being old or another reason altogether
mental yoke
reliable, old, and other reasons
mortal grail
Whoa.
heavy dew
I bought 2 PS5 controllers from goodwill, wish me luck
mortal grail
I have a particular skill:
craggy shoal
fr why don't they just use the real thing
I thought that was a Windows update meme for a second. I just woke up
shut oak
Is it possible to change the shipping method of an order after you already bought it ?
craggy shoal
Probably not
shut oak
I just got a 5070 ti but bought it so fast that I didnt think to pay for faster shipping lol
mortal grail
How much
mortal grail
$970 lmao they are crazy
Not worth honestly if that wasn't a psu bundle
craggy shoal
What's done is done. We shouldn't roast this guy. It'll just be a toxic morning for the whole chat and we don't need that lol
craggy shoal
Yeah that's true lol
shut oak
It wasn't but it was worth for me I just needed something tbh
mortal grail
I say at most like 5 lines and I'm done caring
shut oak
It's fine the gpu market is ridiculous lmao
shut oak
I paid $900 for my 3080 when I bought that now I just paid $970 for a 70 series lmaoooo
mortal grail
It wasn't but it was worth for me I just needed something tbh
I mean up to you man but that price I'd have waited a while longer
Anyway
You can contact newegg cs if you want help with changing shipping
No one here is cs
But that should be doable if not shipped already
shut oak
Well I wanted a 5080 but they are all 1300 - 1500 which is a bit over my budget I could get anything under $1k so I just went with that
ah ok i will try that ty
mortal grail
It's ok
craggy shoal
Yeah I doubt it's possible to change the shipping speed though
shut oak
Maybe I'll just wait I don't want to mess it up
mortal grail
If they can adjust the method then it'll adjust the speed but they will hold the gpu until it's sorted out
shut oak
I was going to buy another and cancel the other but I didn't want my order to get cancelled lol
I tried buying the 9070 xt like 3 times and all my orders were cancelled which is why i got this
mortal grail
There are more 9070xt cards coming
craggy shoal
Yeah I'd just wait. Even if you could change shipping speeds, I think atp they'd have to swap the whole shipping method (which would include shipping trucks, routes, etc.). Ultimately just not worth it because it's just begging to be lost in shipping atp
mortal grail
9070 is also 12% slower for 9% less money
If you're open to one of those still they will come back in stock
craggy shoal
9070 is also 12% slower for 9% less money
(Not to mention OC'able)
mortal grail
We don't know when but the narrative is it's coming back for sure and not going to be priced to the moon
shut oak
Yeah 9070 xt is a way better value but it is what it is I just needed to get something
mortal grail
Yeah 9070 xt is a way better value but it is what it is I just needed to get som...
They're actually really close in value
shut oak
Oh really? I guess at msrp tho
shut oak
its insane that the AIB's are allowed to mark them up so much
mortal grail
its insane that the AIB's are allowed to mark them up so much
It's even more wild when the pulse and swift are basically good enough for everyone
Good bins, decent design
Within a couple % of the uber premium
Anyway, food for thought
I think it be worth considering anyway but again up to you
Can understand feeling pressured into a choice (both by missing out and by advice lol)
shut oak
Lmao yeah market sucks haha
mortal grail
Mostly there but it is deceptively strong performing
craggy shoal
lolll
I didn't even know the 6800 existed until somebody mentioned it a couple days ago
mortal grail
6800 was underplayed a lot by people at launch
mortal grail
I didn't even know the 6800 existed until somebody mentioned it a couple days ag...
Wth
craggy shoal
💀
mortal grail
You've been here longer than me what
craggy shoal
lolll
Since like 2018(?)
That 2020 year is a lie lol. I was auto-kicked for swearing
mortal grail
I'm impressed you didn't know about that card
craggy shoal
ikr 💀
mortal grail
Next you'll tell me you've never heard of the 7650 GRE
craggy shoal
I wasn't as into PCs at the time. I was focused on school for a fat second
Bro okay I've NEVER heard of that GPU
craggy shoal
💀
mortal grail
I forgot about it until bacca mentioned it yesterday
JP keeps winding up to make a huge announcement I swear
craggy shoal
lmao
mortal grail
craggy shoal
"I'm tired of sleeping"
mortal grail
(idk if that's too nsfw for this server)
If that's nsfw here then this whole chat has issues
Lmfao
craggy shoal
💀
mortal grail
That just falls under gross imo
rough zinc
Next you'll tell me you've never heard of the 7650 GRE
Nah everyone knows that one, you forgot about the 4095 GRE
mortal grail
Nah everyone knows that one, you forgot about the 4095 GRE
Zeus bolt 4095 ti super xtx gre
craggy shoal
Zeus save us
tranquil pebble
That 2020 year is a lie lol. I was auto-kicked for swearing
I have managed to never get kicked lol
craggy shoal
Give us a 128GB GPU that does 437891437109x better at everything than Nvidia for like five cents
rough zinc
That 2020 year is a lie lol. I was auto-kicked for swearing
LOL I was auto banned for the night incident
craggy shoal
Night incident?
tranquil pebble
I did get auto muted in a server once for accidentally sending an everyone ping while trying to tell someone not to do exactly that.
rough zinc
I'll dm you
tranquil pebble
dm me too please. I am also curious
fresh nova
Whoah
craggy shoal
Whoah
craggy shoal
"Feet pics Felix"
mortal grail
Yeah it probably happened I just don't remember
tranquil pebble
They're so ugly lol
it matches the vehicle though, both being ugly
devout forum
Cybertruck 2077
6800 XT or 6900 XT for 1440p native maxed out?
315 USD for 6800 XT, 488 for 6900 XT
I'm thinking 6800XT
but there is a ~15-20% difference in raw power
velvet summit
craggy shoal
That 6900 XT is worth a normal used 6800 XT (actually, a hair more). Plus the used market is inflated atm nevertheless. I'd say go for the 6900 XT if you can and don't regret it later
That is, if you don't plan on upgrading soon after or if this is a secondary build or something. In that case, just go with the 6800 XT
Oh I didn't realize they were that close
6800 XT. It's a big price difference anyways and it's still a good GPU
mortal grail
I'm thinking 6800XT
Yep
devout forum
I mean I amprobably gonna go used 4080 later if prices hold
and let my sister have the 6800 XT
I mean she's not gonna take advantage of it in Minecraft lmao
craggy shoal
Or just get a 9070 XT to keep it all AMD and not evil
devout forum
I wonder if my PSU would be able to handle it
craggy shoal
What's your PSU? (And CPU?)
devout forum
Or just get a 9070 XT to keep it all AMD and not evil
650w EVGA 650 GQ
7600X
would move up to a 7700 with an RGB stock cooler
devout forum
it's painful yes
craggy shoal
Maybe just go for an 850W and you won't have to upgrade later lol
(But yeah even 750W to 850W is still crazy in price :/ )
devout forum
Oh I'd do that for the ITX rig it'd go into
it's more whether it'll be fine for my sister to use later
craggy shoal
I'd still try to upgrade if possible. With the directly hardware is going in, 850W will be the minimum for a mid-end to high-end PC in the next half-decade
dusk knot
Hmmm
craggy shoal
(maybe not quite the minimum, but you won't regret that 850W purchase in the next five years)
sinful blade
WE WALK LIKE DEAD PEOPLE WHO HAVENT DIED YET
dusk knot
craggy shoal
devout forum
(maybe not quite the minimum, but you won't regret that 850W purchase in the nex...
Again the ITX rig I'll keep gets an 850
craggy shoal
ohh okay
devout forum
I'm hopeful I don't need to buy a 750 for my sister's build (cuz I already have a B-tier 650)
which she'd inherit
I mean
Honestly, I probably still should get it for her if she'll ever inherit another GPU from me
velvet summit
70 class gpu for over 800 😔
back in my day 70 class gpus were like 600cad 👴
or like 400usd
tranquil pebble
80 class GPUs used to be like 500 at one point too
velvet summit
kinda crazy to think that intel is probably older than most people in this server unless they are practically at retirement age
intel will be 60 before the end of the decade
also crazy to think that some companies have been around longer than even your grandparents
like, 3m is old enough to be your grandparent's parents
💀
ibm is also older than my remaining living grandparent by like 15 years
or actually only by like 10
since he's in his late 90s
south sapphire
Just want to say appreciate the help ya’ll
Just bought the 9800X3D and didnt realize there releasing a new one
How long has the 9800 cpu been out
craggy shoal
What
velvet summit
How long has the 9800 cpu been out
like 2 months i think?
craggy shoal
<@263791870281383937> I
Bro what
velvet summit
they pressed enter before they could finish typing 💀
craggy shoal
Bro probably typing a paragraph for that edit rn
velvet summit
Dang so any reason there releasing a new line so quickly
i dont think they're releasing a new line? maybe just more models for the 9000 series
fresh timber
@fresh timber
velvet summit
they also have a mid generation refresh for laptops/mobile usually
south sapphire
My bad yea 9900
velvet summit
yeah that would be the same line
usually the x700 or such would have the best price to performance ratio though, at least historically
rancid juniper
mortal grail
In 3 years his thumbnails will be like
craggy shoal
@fresh timber
velvet summit
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mortal grail
LOL
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velvet summit
this is too wide 💀
craggy shoal
bruh
wise wigeon
@mortal grail I messed up man 
I got a bundle I wanted last night with a nicer model and the psu would be decent as a backup to mess with
But then I saw the Msi stock notification and for the sh*** and giggles I brought it to checkout fully expecting it to be OOS
Like I even had to make a account so I was totally not expecting anything
But it went through for the ventus
fresh timber
<@929166408930189362>
Stop harassing me
wise wigeon
The ventus is like the worst model in terms of cooling and volume but like it’s not unforgivable
Because it’s a two slot card with a thin heat sink
It’s just worse than the models that are overbuilt and don’t push past 60c on load
rancid juniper
good use of RT?
velvet summit
The ventus is like the worst model in terms of cooling and volume but like it’s ...
it's unforgivable (i dont forgive it)
wise wigeon
But like it’s not even a bad price
velvet summit
good use of RT?
tiles having reflections makes sense
rancid juniper
tiles having reflections makes sense
light bleed too
wise wigeon
i hear bad things about ventus
Mostly that it’s loud
But an aggressive fan curve brings it to like 34-35dcb
rancid juniper
UNDERVOLT
velvet summit
loudest hottest design
wise wigeon
loudest hottest design
Yeah the cooler it like only 1kg
rancid juniper
for the general user tho ventus is probably not recommended
wise wigeon
And it’s a two slot card
velvet summit
and msi even has the balls to make it "oc"
rancid juniper
unless you got nothing else
wise wigeon
Well I know how to undervolt
wise wigeon
I’m more comfortable with the Msi afterburner undervolt a than I am with adrenaline
fresh timber
https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-radeon-rx-9050-product-category-listed-by-mexic...
Please be a good price
rancid juniper
Please be a good price
$150 guess
fresh timber
idk anybody who uses adrenaline to oc or uv
Uhhh.. me
wise wigeon
idk anybody who uses adrenaline to oc or uv
Never undervolted with AMD before
fresh timber
$150 guess
If it beats the rx6600 I’m happy
fresh timber
Never undervolted with AMD before
Easy
velvet summit
i know one person who uses adrenaline to oc or uv
fresh timber
I just did it yesterday. $6:( lower
fresh timber
i know one person who uses adrenaline to oc or uv
Me??
velvet summit
wise wigeon
But uh yeah yall think I should just wait and test the cards see which one I like more?
fresh timber
I got it to run 150w
But can’t find a stable clock speed and vram speed to use that 150w
wise wigeon
I’m not against paying more for a fat premium model
But if I can tune it to be what I’m comfy with
fresh timber
I’m not against paying more for a fat premium model
I prefer oversized coolers for my devices
wise wigeon
I prefer oversized coolers for my devices
I prefer overkill as well
fresh timber
Oversized cpu cooler yes, 3 slot gpu cooler for a gpu that can be 2 slot, yes please
rancid juniper
wise wigeon
The ventus is hotter but it’s like 70c core and 80c memory
It’s nothing crazy
It’s just the other model is 55c core and like 60c mem
wise wigeon
I mean with the bundle it was me saving 100 bucks over the xtx and I get a decent psu as a spare
But now the ventus is straight up like $240 dollars cheaper than the xtx
velvet summit
was the cheap good argb like the ct120argb? or what is a decent cheap argb fan
rough zinc
i know one person who uses adrenaline to oc or uv
Thats the best way for AMD cards
MSI afterburner is pretty terrible
velvet summit
💀
mental yoke
that cant be real
wise wigeon
Hmm I’m feeling nervous about the ventus now mostly because of Msi return policy
lucid bay
Hello all
mental yoke
Hmm I’m feeling nervous about the ventus now mostly because of Msi return policy
in what way?
sometimes i regret not buying off amazon cus how easy it is to return things but majority of time when i contact a company and tell them i bought direct from them they seem to bend over backwards a lot more
newegg has been good on returns for me
wise wigeon
Wegg return policy has no restocking fee and free labels iirc
Msi I have to read more but idk
mental yoke
third party sellers are the thing that will screw you over but thats not unique to newegg
wise wigeon
Well it’s directly from Msi
mental yoke
i wouldnt be worried if its direct manufacturer honestly
i mean ud prolly have a wait game so get a back up
but they would probably fix it if it falls within the actual boundries of their policy.
wise wigeon
Like I’m not super worried about like the rops issue I’m sure they’ll deal with that rma because it’s a defect
mental yoke
i actually have no idea i dont think ive ever dealt with msi now that i think about all my computer stuff
i heard a lot of intel horror stories about honoring the bios things but all those people didnt buy the cpu direct from an authorized retailer or w/e
wise wigeon
But if I like tried to get it quiet and it’s just not meeting my reqs idk if they’ll be ok with that
mental yoke
ah yea, that could be ground for a restock fee
they prolly dont have the volume to be able to eat opened product without a loss which is sometimes acceptable but.... business and money 🤮
wise wigeon
Like I still haven’t read deep enough about it
mental yoke
i just did the same thing with some security cameras
i should just chucked it off a big reseller but i like supporting the companies directly
wise wigeon
I mean realistically I could just sell it afterwards if they wanna charge a fee
But Florida is full of crazies
rancid juniper
that cant be real
it isn't
mental yoke
and it isnt even ai, just a bad photo meme and i still can almost belive they would
"the floating point 5-p integer calculation on the 5050 is the same as the 4090 so yea" ive seen so much dumb word trickery 🤦
gentle canyon
mental yoke
a 400$ 4080 would be 
mental yoke
thats an interesting speed test if its trying to look at what im thinking it is
well nothing u cant already get but
i get sold on nice looking things easily
devout forum
Huh
so it turns out
if I get the 9070 XT
I can use my iGPU to power my sensorpanel
fresh timber
I can use my iGPU to power my sensorpanel
ooooo
mental yoke
ive never done a sensor panel but i would just put a tablet or phone on the case somehow
devout forum
the issue is that to use the iGP in the 9800X3D for the sensorpanel is that I'd need Radeon drivers more than likely
mental yoke
i think i was trying to do something similar with my old 2080ti/9900k set up where i wanted the igpu to drive certain things and the rtx to do other things
it was always finnicky and i had to reset it for different inputs
seamless would be nice, i feel like i saw something where it does kinda do that with the bios/gpu, isnt that what optimus was trying to do?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus yea except for laptops
honestly id rather use all the die space on the cpu for processing, but having the ability to troubleshoot a system without a dedicated gpu is invaluable imo
devout forum
TBF I'd rather not use up the one HDMI for the sensorpanel
craggy shoal
I wish all CPUs had decent GPUs (so basically like any Ryzen G-series) and then every piece of software they had hardware acceleration would just let you set it to the CPU's iGPU
DP-to-HDMI exists
(Just not the other way around)
mental yoke
ive seen some jank video inputs hardwired into things not made for video if it comes down to it but the wonders of a usb-c interface 🤤
craggy shoal
DP-to-HDMI exists
For small resolutions (like 1080p at the highest iirc) unless it's an active adapter*
velvet summit
Buy a gt710 for the sensor panel frfr
craggy shoal
Make sure your system supports it. My Z790 with a 13700K didn’t support Thunderbolt
mental yoke
i feel like calling this a sensor panel might be disengenious if its just an lcd/led screen ur powering, or is it some integrated?
devout forum
DP-to-HDMI exists
I mean fair... That way I can use 2 DP for the main monitors
Adapter for the sensorpanel
And HDMI to the TV
devout forum
i feel like calling this a sensor panel might be disengenious if its just an lcd...
It's a 7" screen intended to have a sensorpanel displayed on it
mental yoke
👍 makes more sense then yea
devout forum
Likely gonna mount it under my main display with a 3d printed bracket that connects to the VESA mount of the arm
It'd be nice and integrated that way
Looks cleaner, leaves me all my desk space
mental yoke
going to flush mount it into cabinetry or something? i feel like a bare bone 7' android tablet would do the thing better
craggy shoal
Yeah that’s sort of what I did. Only I just used a 3D printed mount. A little jank but it worked until I decided to take it out
mental yoke
then all u need is a usb port
devout forum
going to flush mount it into cabinetry or something? i feel like a bare bone 7' ...
Those are expensive
mental yoke
u can get em like 10 bucks off ali
devout forum
While this thing is cheap as chips
craggy shoal
going to flush mount it into cabinetry or something? i feel like a bare bone 7' ...
Even better if you can find a way to take the battery out and it function from the PC's power (turning on and off from the PC as well)
devout forum
u can get em like 10 bucks off ali
+80 bucks shipping and duties lol
mental yoke
oof
devout forum
Cuz customs is a heck
But ye
It's a simpler solution for me
Y'know
It's that Jonsbo one that they also put into the D41
*onto
mental yoke
i just put my sensors on my monitors usually
devout forum
Can't recall the proper name but it's that
mental yoke
devout forum
Ye that one
Again, mounting it to the arm under the main display would be pretty clean
mental yoke
that looks nice in white
devout forum
I'm still firmly convinced getting anything white for gamers is ill-advised
craggy shoal
Unless there's not much of a white tax on the product
mental yoke
i want to get.... this.. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/silverstone-rm42-502/
velvet summit
The spotlight for goons
craggy shoal
I need a rack
mental yoke
and i love handles 🤤
craggy shoal
I need a SFF with a handle fr
mental yoke
i was eye balling one sff.... i was going to do an amd build before some stuff happened
craggy shoal
Those are normally way cheaper
mental yoke
yea it was like 230 during xmas
mental yoke
could wrap some handles on that one easy though
opaque sedge
Huh that looks kinda neat ngl not big on screens as a design aspect but even i gotta admit that looks cool
mental yoke
but case with them integrated is better
craggy shoal
Yeah I need a light order of 999 of these
opaque sedge
Whats the name of that case?
craggy shoal
NR200P
mental yoke
Whats the name of that case?
mental yoke
the nr200 is that newegg one
craggy shoal
Atx or nah?
mITX
opaque sedge
There’s a micro itx?!?
dusk knot
Hm
mental yoke
I need a SFF with a handle fr
craggy shoal
It's a SFF case
tight agate
It portable
craggy shoal
<:archthonk:721945519580250144>
Need a small GPU though
craggy shoal
Didn’t notice my typo lol
I hate typing with one hand but my dog walked up to me lol
mental yoke
would be nice if gpu manus would go wide on boards for itx cases sometimes
ive seen a few but rare
mostly the cooling anyway
opaque sedge
Need a small GPU though
4070supers (cept two asus ones and a couple gigabyte ones) and 7800xts would prolly fit ngl
craggy shoal
Like as wide as an mITX motherboard is tall for vertically mounting the GPU in a sandwich-style case
mental yoke
oh that case is not ideal for gpus: Graphics card support Max. 215mm
craggy shoal
4070supers (cept two asus ones and a couple gigabyte ones) and 7800xts would pro...
For sure if small enough. I think it's hard to even fit a normal two-fan GPU in that thing
The NR200P can probably fit my TUF 6800 XT though (with an SFX PSU*)
craggy shoal
Oh 💀
mental yoke
it wouldve fit my 3080ti
devout forum
I need a SFF with a handle fr
CH160
I'm personally gonna go with a 2000D
And an Asrock mobo
Keep the option for 9800X3D open for later
mental yoke
ill prolly stick with fractal, i always memed them but they are very quality on their upper tier offerings
craggy shoal
I need slightly bigger though for my TUF 6800 XT (like maybe a three-slot case)
devout forum
Though I will admit that the 14700K is still quite tempting
It'd work really well for a streamer PC
Then again
AM5 is just overpowered rn
mental yoke
ima get some am5 soon 😄
craggy shoal
You won't have a need for a CPU-streaming PC if you get an RX 6000-series or pretty much any Nvidia GPU from 2000-series and onward
devout forum
I personally love the 14700K
But it's hard to justify it
craggy shoal
You won't have a need for a CPU-streaming PC if you get an RX 6000-series or pre...
Just use AMD's AMF or Nvidia's NVENC
devout forum
Especially when the 3D-Vcache is so good for games I actually play a lot
Like PDX games love the cache
So it's actively hard to justify the 700K
mental yoke
stream set ups can vary so randomly
velvet summit
Any PC setup can vary so randomly
devout forum
X3D kinda shot Intel in the foot
mental yoke
yep
devout forum
Anyhow
The point is that I wanna make it cost-effective
I don't have thousands of dollars to blow on it
And frankly, AM5 is probably the socket to be on
velvet summit
Just use AMD's AMF or Nvidia's NVENC
VCE, nvenc, qsv, media engine
mental yoke
ur trying to start streaming? or just enhancing the setup?
devout forum
Intending to start vtubing
Tho that being said
I dunno if anyone would wanna watch lol
lone mango
You won't have a need for a CPU-streaming PC if you get an RX 6000-series or pre...
Yeah the videos I record with my 6600 are pretty nice
mental yoke
if i was going to vtube rn id get some iphone/apple and use that for ur camera, they got some nice tracking tech for cheap
easy to integrate without utilizing resources of ur current system
velvet summit
Considering your tech knowledge level, you'll probably be able to use an old PC for a dual PC streaming setup
More complicated to setup but better performance
mental yoke
you should not do a single system set up for streaming if u want it to be any level of serious
for multiple reasons, is it possible? yes. but dont. no.
devout forum
Best I can try is like using a laptop for a capture PC
velvet summit
you should not do a single system set up for streaming if u want it to be any le...
Well
Not really
Most larger streamers (especially with their paltry tech knowledge) don't use dual PC stream setups anymore
mental yoke
Well
Not really
Most larger streamers (especially with their paltry tech knowled...
they also have teams
thats a whole other ball game
devout forum
Both on principle and in ecosystem
velvet summit
old used iphone 15 is cheap
"old" and "iPhone 15" do not belong in the same sentence
devout forum
Ye that too
mental yoke
it integrates with facial tracking vtube stuff really well
beyond discussing using it for a vtube camera im not harping it
velvet summit
I believe it was iPhone x that was the first with faceid
lone mango
I believe it was iPhone x that was the first with faceid
Yeah
mental yoke
if u want the cheapest entry into vtubing, just get a iphone
devout forum
I can use a fairly standard webcam methinks
velvet summit
iPhone would have the best facial tracking quality
mental yoke
you can but
devout forum
If it's Windows Hello compatible it can definitely capture facials
It's got the IR element to it
mental yoke
i dunno im not a vtuber
craggy shoal
you should not do a single system set up for streaming if u want it to be any le...
Nah it's doable in 2025. This is what most streamers do now lol
devout forum
I don't need it to be optimal I just need to get started
mental yoke
it is, its always been doable, u want ur chat on a different place trust
velvet summit
Single PC streaming has been doable for like the last half decade at least
devout forum
Dual PC is just wasting money at this point
velvet summit
Not really
devout forum
Hardware got where it's negligible or no perf impact
mental yoke
if u intend to make money off it
velvet summit
It's just more complex to setup