general-chat

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah did you not install ffmpeg

sudo [insert package manager] install ffmpeg

There's also seal on android

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.junkfood.seal/

[wary fjord]

if u want to dl mp3 for "fair use" on yt using yt-dlp

do this

yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJIfjTGDfOE -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0
pause

if just mp4

yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ -f "bestvideo[ext=mp4]+bestaudio[ext=m4a]/best[ext=mp4]/best"
pause

ffmpeg is a must for this to work.

[hoary zodiac]

Alfred PLEASE DON'T CUT MY INTERNET

[mortal grail]

I've used like 3 brands the last 2 weeks they all do it now lol

[hoary zodiac]

WTF the sky is clear again

Screw it I'm gonna go look for eggs

[lone mango]

Its over brace yourself

[hoary zodiac]

Before Alfred gets back

[lone mango]

Bro gonna get swept by the eyewall

[mortal grail]

@hoary zodiac you spinning in the air yet

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

I'm starting to think I'm being gaslit

Alfred is taking his sweet time

[rough zinc]

Just lock the door

Cant come back in if the doors locked

[mortal grail]

He's winding up bro

[lone mango]

I wanted to support ifixit but when I saw the chinese toolkit right below it, I felt tempted to buy that

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/super-smash-bros-donkey-kong-strong-punch-punch-wind-up-gif-24718689

[hoary zodiac]

He can wind up deez nuts I'm looking for eggs

[rough zinc]

Us

[lone mango]

Was over 3x the amount of bits for the same price

[mortal grail]

Us

(?)

[hoary zodiac]

Among

[mortal grail]

Us

[rough zinc]

Us.

[mortal grail]

Oh

LOL

I was thinking the glorious 49 states

[wary fjord]

theres some chinesse tool that can rival ifixt its not just popular

[rough zinc]

LOL

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/eagle-bald-eagle-america-american-flag-4th-of-july-gif-17638030

[rough zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/abebaldeagle-eth-america-patriot-patriotic-gif-5238720960691375449

[hoary zodiac]

Woolworths is closed

God damn it

[rough zinc]

Break in and leave the money behind

[mortal grail]

What about coles

[mortal grail]

Based choice btw

Coles is trashy

[hoary zodiac]

Coles is a bit of a walk away

Also closed

[mortal grail]

What about iga

Locals first

They said so

[hoary zodiac]

Open

Oooo

[mortal grail]

Yooooo

[hoary zodiac]

In South Brisbane too

I'M COMING

[mortal grail]

CONTAIN URSELF BRO

[rough zinc]

The Aussies are taking over

[misty sparrow]

Yeah it isn't an ffmpeg thing, it's just that yt-dlp compilation on linux was a complete disaster and kept throwing me errors. When I did get it to run, I had to run stupidly long stuff in the command prompt to download videos

Since I found a simpler solution that requires no installation or compilation, why would I use something infinitely more complex instead?

[mortal grail]

You love pain?

Masochist?

I can think of a couple reasons

[hoary zodiac]

What are the chances I walk there

And there's no eggs

[misty sparrow]

I love pain but in the end I want something to work

[mortal grail]

50/50 dawg

[hoary zodiac]

I have like 4 eggs so

Screw it

[lone mango]

Wow its faster with rt on
https://youtu.be/kG6vYnr2Iwk

[hoary zodiac]

Jesus christ

Brissy is a ghost town

[mortal grail]

Yeah why do you think even I bought one

[lone mango]

Faster by a lot too

15-20%

[mortal grail]

It really throws the value of both the 7900xt and 7900xtx into question

[lone mango]

Nvm more like 10-20

Still crazy tho

[mortal grail]

The value is top of the charts at msrp

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Even at 720 it still wasn't that bad

[mortal grail]

Ima boutta dox

[lone mango]

Unsettling image

[hoary zodiac]

Feels like I'm walking through a ubisoft game level

[lone mango]

The division 2

[mortal grail]

Does it feel like 30 fps tho

[hoary zodiac]

Birds are running the streets now

[mortal grail]

BUSH TURKEYYYY

[hoary zodiac]

Not even the bin chickens are out

To be fair there's no food

[wary fjord]

what does that mean every 1 fps i pay 8 bucks?

thats quite large

[hoary zodiac]

You would not be able to tell there's a massive cyclone out there

[mortal grail]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

If it wasn't for the dead streets

[mortal grail]

Bro's walking around in forza horizon 3

[hoary zodiac]

We live in a simulation

[wary fjord]

thats expensive

[mortal grail]

Indeed

[wary fjord]

i ask ai to calculate it

If it costs $8 per frame to run a game in 4K and you're running at 60 FPS, here's how much you'd pay in one hour:

Frames per second (FPS) = 60
Seconds in an hour = 3600
Total frames in one hour = 60 × 3600 = 216,000 frames
Cost per frame = $8
Total cost = 216,000 × $8 = $1,728,000

i wont pay a mil to play an hour

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/fps-drop-fps-below30low-fps-fps-drop-fps-below30-fps-hell-scream-gif-12886802

[devout forum]

so the 9070 XT is a proper 4k card?

[mortal grail]

Barely

I am not gonna recommend it for 4k

[hoary zodiac]

Bit windy

[devout forum]

and the XTX/4080 ain't that much better

damn, how did we get here?

[mortal grail]

Yep

As I've been saying for like a year now

4k on those cards is not really there anymore

[devout forum]

I mean you CAN

like you can do 4k med-high optimized

[mortal grail]

Yes but it's borderline

[devout forum]

but like

if you play at 4k

you'd want to crank everything

[mortal grail]

You want a 4090+ imo

[hoary zodiac]

50,000 people used to live here

[mortal grail]

Actually it's the reverse

[hoary zodiac]

now it's a ghost town

[devout forum]

An actually interesting thought

[mortal grail]

The render is so strong you don't need extra techniques

[devout forum]

4k medium vs 1440p ultra
Both native

[mortal grail]

Yea

That's somewhat comparable irl

Ofc depends on game

But broadly speaking

[devout forum]

that's really the question with something like a 4080

[mortal grail]

But even then it's just too many pixels to cal 4K worth it on those cards now

If existing sure

But not new

New is a serious stretch

[gentle canyon]

Closing till midnight is miserable I can’t wait till Saturday when I have to close till 2 AM

[mortal grail]

You need specific circumstances

Like one guy we had just recently loves poe 2

He's getting 4K, I recommended it

Cos poe runs on toasters if it doesn't crash

[devout forum]

you can make the same argument about PDX games

like EU4 or HOI4

[mortal grail]

Ye

[devout forum]

which I personally play both a fair bit of

[mortal grail]

Some games for sure

Like COD too

COD actually runs really well at 4k

Despite the vram issue

[devout forum]

especially since you'd turn down settings for comp edge

[mortal grail]

Ye

It's nuanced but broadly speaking I wouldn't with those

They fall into a grey area rn

7900XT at the bottom of that pile

[devout forum]

I was under the impression that 80 class cards were meant to go 4k

[mortal grail]

They used to

Hell

They still technically do

5080 can do 4K

Barely makes the cut

But I'd overclock it for that

But yeah 90 cards are the new 80 cards

When the 3080 came out I had 4K going no issues

4K 60 easy

That's just how pc gaming has evolved

AAA has this mindset of general slop that as long as it runs on the latest great pc it's fine

It's tapped into that for years, now we are here

CP2077 used to run 4K on a 3080 with no issues

Itself still the benchmark after years for many gpus

[hoary zodiac]

Where is that IGA

Did I get trolled

[mortal grail]

Hiding in a bush

SNAKE?

SNAAKE??

[hoary zodiac]

Oh they're closed

I got trolled

And it just started raining

Great

[mortal grail]

Those should be in the manuals

Power switch and reset usually bottom right of the board in the corner

[hoary zodiac]

Google trolled me

[mortal grail]

Audio bottom left

Lian li often puts labelling and even manual diagrams to help

Yes

It's standardised

Das why I know

[hoary zodiac]

Alfred planned this

Alfred lured me out

[mortal grail]

I can hear you laughing

LMAO

Yep that pause is a giveaway

hahaha

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[mortal grail]

I can just imagine boeing standing on the shoreline shaking his fist at the sky

"Screw you alfredddd"

[hoary zodiac]

Never trust the clear skies

At least it's some drips

Gonna get home before it becomes a shower

NO

NO

I JINXED IT

[pseudo patrol]

worth?

[surreal comet]

Finally a good PC game

[mortal grail]

Mmmmmmmm

Barely

It's barely worth man

660 is the cutoff imo

669...ok

69 is nice

It's barely there

[pseudo patrol]

true

I think its the only one in stock rn

on newegg

that and asrock

[mortal grail]

I think it's ok

One sec I'll draw it

[uncut fable]

I wouldn't say so

its not even the XT

[pseudo patrol]

I'll prob stick with my 3070ti for now, and let things ride until the nex 60 series drop

[pseudo patrol]

ye that was the main issue lol

[hoary zodiac]

I petition to mobilise the RAAF to strike Alfred

[mortal grail]

The non XT is only 12% slower

So if an xt is like...

720

Take 12% of the price of that

660 is about the limit

I would say for both

[uncut fable]

I wouldn't say the XT is worth it at 720 either, thats too high of a margin over base price

[midnight sage]

I have seen the XT go for MSRP albeit not many

[mortal grail]

I agree but everything is marked up rn

[uncut fable]

its just a bad situation

[mortal grail]

So hard to consider it in a positive light when the only card positive in this situation is a 7800xt for 520

I'm thinking in terms of inflated prices but yeah I do agree with it being high for sure

[hoary zodiac]

Wtf

[mortal grail]

Odd

[hoary zodiac]

There's like 30 asians lining up for bubble tea

[pseudo patrol]

scalpers ruining the marketing of gaming

[mortal grail]

It says audio yeah?

[midnight sage]

just cop one

[hoary zodiac]

Not in this economy

[pseudo patrol]

its their crack

[mortal grail]

Which lian li is it

[hoary zodiac]

I can make my own tea for $2

[mortal grail]

One sec

[pseudo patrol]

dont forget the boba balls

[hoary zodiac]

nah that's gay

[mortal grail]

Ah ok

So let me clarify something

You have an f.panel connector yeah

[hoary zodiac]

MACCAS IS OPEN

HOW

[mortal grail]

That's bottom right I am pretty sure

And "audio" bottom left

Try flipping them upside down

Or rather just audio

No bent pin?

Hm ok

I need a pic

One sec

There you go

Try posting a pic @slow basalt

[hoary zodiac]

I'm considering grabbing a bin chicken and eating its eggs

(for legal purposes this is a joke)

[mortal grail]

You can't post a pic?

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

Guess I'm rationing my eggs

[mortal grail]

How about now

Ok those two are rgb and a 12v fan header

Iirc on gigabyte its...

12v drgb?

Usually a white plug with 3 pins

The right one goes in like

Cpu fan

Sys fan

Aio pump

Those kinds

[hoary zodiac]

These are tough times

[mortal grail]

Those definitely are not 😂

[midnight sage]

raw dawg it

[mortal grail]

Those are fan and rgb

Ye but it's not those two

[hoary zodiac]

I'm making fried rice with them

Every egg counts

[mortal grail]

Those two are fan and rgb

The other 3

Lol

Yeah the other 3 would be what you need

[hoary zodiac]

damn you Alfred

[midnight sage]

dont tell me you're about to make that chicken fry that rice

[mortal grail]

Half egg

You need new egg

[hoary zodiac]

read the motherboard manual

[mortal grail]

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

the skies have cleared up again

He's resetting the trap

[misty sparrow]

God damn, is that Zelda? Like the character in the title? PC emulation truly something special

[surreal comet]

It's her legend

Heartwarming

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-kick-flip-skateboard-frog-on-da-board-gif-16388983

[mortal grail]

Guess msrp wasn't really a lie after all

[hoary zodiac]

WTF

The army is coming in

[cedar compass]

Lol 750$ gpu performance for 600$ ( but only at launch )

[devout forum]

It's depressing that we celebrate that as a miracle at this point

[gentle canyon]

msrp was the friends we made along the way

[hoary zodiac]

looks at 1080ti msrp

[elfin mural]

AMD isn't lying for once?

[wise wigeon]

Encouraged isn’t the same as enforced but I hope it’s true

[elfin mural]

excluding tariffs

expected but

this is better than nothing

[wise wigeon]

So US is still screwed

[elfin mural]

i suppose so

[wise wigeon]

I mean many European countries didn’t even have msrp cards to begin with

[dense locust]

All we need now is for amd to be missing their rop equivalent

Then it’s a real gpu launch

[devout forum]

Y'all still get them cheaper than anyone in the EU

[wise wigeon]

I mean that’s true

[devout forum]

cheapest European pricing is like 700 pounds iirc in Britain (which is more than 600 bucks)
800 euros for the EU on average

[wise wigeon]

Inb4 burning nitro plus cards

[devout forum]

I mean

IIRC they made burning them down difficult

Sure not impossible, but at least difficult

[wise wigeon]

Nah same flaws as the Nvidia ones

[devout forum]

Sapphire at least put SOME protections in

[wise wigeon]

Buildzoid looked at it already

[wise wigeon]

I mean so did Asus and then one caught fire in a different way

But yeah I wish I could trust AMD but

[devout forum]

that one melted both the card and PSU connectors right?

[mortal grail]

Got it in one

[wise wigeon]

I am not a “In Azor we trust” person

[mortal grail]

💯

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-new-goodnews-gif-5110959

Itx egpu box posted first try bois

[atomic mist]

Build boi don’t you have work

[mortal grail]

Yeah I'm cleaning up my desk before I sleep

[devout forum]

The madman actually did it

[mortal grail]

Core x chroma egpu pc

[atomic mist]

God damn

[wise wigeon]

The bulge

[atomic mist]

Lmao

[devout forum]

Did you need to do much in terms of mods?

[mortal grail]

I only needed 10mm clearance which I used spacers to move the front fascia out

Which is good for airflow

[wise wigeon]

Wdym

[mortal grail]

Ye that was intentional for mobo clearance

[devout forum]

TBF you're not the first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr4iz2YCbI4

[mortal grail]

NOOOOOOO

Wait

Core x

Not chroma

I'm safe

@wise wigeon

See the mobo lol

[atomic mist]

They used the superior Corsair ram anyways

[mortal grail]

I will send you to mordor

[atomic mist]

[dense locust]

Some gpu repair guy said it was basically not gunna do anything

[mortal grail]

Use the left 8 minimum

Sorry right 8

[wise wigeon]

EPS/cpu

[mortal grail]

The 8 one

Eps yeah

Lmfao

[atomic mist]

And the second eps/cpu connector can split if you want

[wise wigeon]

You can do the left one if you want

But at least the 8

[devout forum]

potentially stupid idea

[atomic mist]

You don’t need to have both plugged in

[mortal grail]

Dude the core x looks sick with the pc in it

Rgb actually nice looking

[devout forum]

@mortal grail In theory
Can you mount a laptop mobo inside?

[atomic mist]

Turning into optimum tech I see

[devout forum]

and just have it permanently connected to the GPU

[wise wigeon]

He is like the cave divers of sff builds

[mortal grail]

Wtf c12015 is quieter than the noctua 15mm

[devout forum]

making it into a supercharged rig

[mortal grail]

100% fan and it's quiet af

100% recommending this fan for 15mm now on

[atomic mist]

Next thing you know Felix is gunna start powerlifting and driving fast cars

[mortal grail]

If it's narrow enough yes actually

[devout forum]

wouldn't that be kinda awesome?

[mortal grail]

Suddenly a mclaren

[wise wigeon]

Optimum tech sees a tight fit and makes the minimum possible clearances choice

[mortal grail]

Eh I mean if it's beefy enough

[devout forum]

155H?

[atomic mist]

Optimum tech sees a tight fit then 3d prints a bracket for the custom pcb he printed to barely fit

[devout forum]

you can get them for like really cheap lately

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-brain-rot-brainrot-cave-diver-cave-divers-gif-9423543367945093976

He does show off some nice cases though

[mortal grail]

With a dgpu on the laptop board you could fit it

[atomic mist]

He’s by far one of my favorite reviewers and builders

[devout forum]

ThinkBook 14 G7 IML has the 155H and 32 gigs of SO-DIMM

[mortal grail]

Don't think full gpu fits with laptop mobo

[atomic mist]

Some of his flicks in overwatch are just 10/10

[wise wigeon]

His taste in cases a bit expensive though

[mortal grail]

Does that make me cool dad

[devout forum]

I think you can make it work

[atomic mist]

No McLaren

[devout forum]

mount it on top of the eGPU box

[wise wigeon]

I think the concept of forms t1 v2 is nice but it’s like $250

[devout forum]

tho it depends on the box

[atomic mist]

Yeahhhh meanwhile I’m over here with a $150 box

It’s got some nice wood furniture tho

[devout forum]

something like the Sonnet Breakaway 750 is a little bigger

[wise wigeon]

I mean I have a $120 antec flux

[mortal grail]

The only spot it could possibly fit is above the psu and you'd need custom standoffs

[devout forum]

and it already has a PC 750

[mortal grail]

I thought you were asking about the box I used

[atomic mist]

Not to mention optimum uses some like wildly rare and custom fittings that’s are probably like $30 each

[devout forum]

I'm asking about the idea itself

[mortal grail]

I mean if it fits it sits honestly

You'd need a power button

[devout forum]

of just permanently mounting a laptop mobo inside an eGPU box and have it as like a PC of sorts

[wise wigeon]

Welp here’s hoping 9070 xt is back in stock as a reasonable price

[devout forum]

Upcycling

I mean the 155H is like

A 14600K in a laptop right?

[atomic mist]

One of my buddies got a 9070xt and is loving it. Upgraded from a 3070

[wise wigeon]

Had a 3080 sold it to my brother for his new build, have a xtx in return period rn

[atomic mist]

The xtx is pretty close in performance from what I heard

[wise wigeon]

Either 70xt or 70ti at a reasonable price or bundle

[wise wigeon]

Yeah well it was 3-400 more so

[atomic mist]

Fair

[wise wigeon]

If a 5080 opportunity pops up I’ll take it but

Not above 1000-1100

[atomic mist]

The split side goes into the psu

Both of em

[wise wigeon]

Ik 600 was the msrp that was set by AMD but aib prices show it was definitely much more in line with a 650 or 700 starting point

Pre price drop

[atomic mist]

It should be labeled but

[mortal grail]

Wtf I can overclock my ram on a520

LOL

That's like 95% of ryzen speed

[wise wigeon]

No

[mortal grail]

I thought it was all locked until a620, I was wrong

Yeeteth

[wise wigeon]

24 pin splits into 2 parts that both plug into the mobo slot of the psu

[atomic mist]

[wise wigeon]

The eps should just be 8 pin to 8 pin, you can split it yeah

[mortal grail]

AHAHA

WHY DOES THIS BOARD HAVE PBO

[atomic mist]

They are talking about this lol

[wise wigeon]

Shouldn’t unless you decided to plug in the 4 pins next to the initial 8

[wise wigeon]

I mean I already responded to that

[mortal grail]

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN

[devout forum]

Wow that's like

Godly value

[atomic mist]

You plug it is

Don’t leave it hanging

[mortal grail]

I'm gonna leave it off but now I'm curious af

[wise wigeon]

It’s directly under

[devout forum]

God hath decreed: Thou shall yeeteth.

[mortal grail]

THOU SHALT NOT ECO

[wise wigeon]

It’s under where you plugged the bigger part bud

[atomic mist]

[wise wigeon]

I don’t get paid though

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-1281766816980485400

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-2568640736599761295

[atomic mist]

Bread that’s on every psu

[wise wigeon]

24 pins are mostly standardized

Unless it’s like a super flower

They a lil funky

[atomic mist]

Nah even superpower

Flower*

[wise wigeon]

Some of em weird man

[atomic mist]

The new ones are yeah…

I seem to be wrong

[wise wigeon]

Like you can still tell but it’s def not the usual setup

[atomic mist]

Atleast m/b is very clearly labeled

[wise wigeon]

That’s just asking for issues with illiterate people

[atomic mist]

And you can’t mess up universal

[wise wigeon]

Thank god the rest is universal

[mortal grail]

3200 booted instantly let's go

Pc is running bois

[sweet phoenix]

My brain isn't understanding this

[wise wigeon]

What is this uni-ver-sale

[mortal grail]

@sweet phoenix read up look what I dun made

[sweet phoenix]

Where would you olug an 8 pin itj

[sweet phoenix]

W

[atomic mist]

M/b

[wise wigeon]

Att the others are universal

[mortal grail]

^

Core x egpu box pc

[sweet phoenix]

Damn

Thats sick

[sweet phoenix]

Where would pcie 8 pin plug in?

[mortal grail]

5600+rx 6600

[sweet phoenix]

Unless it's a 9 pin on the psu side?

[wise wigeon]

Any of the universal?

[mortal grail]

32gb and a quite af lp TR cooler

C1205 is quite af

[atomic mist]

It’s a 9 pin on the psu side

[sweet phoenix]

Does it have specific cables made to fit those ports?

Ahhhh

[atomic mist]

For every plug

[sweet phoenix]

I thought it was supposed to be a universal psu as in any type of connector worked for it

That makes a lot more sense

[wise wigeon]

Honestly more confusing if than the regular setup lol

[atomic mist]

I have one in my closet I can stare at

A superflower 3 platinum

Im eventually gunna build a system with it…

[mortal grail]

Dis pc so quiet man

The psu from the egpu is the loud part

And it's like pin drop quiet

[wise wigeon]

Ok I need sleep I got wake up in less than 2 hours

[mortal grail]

I'm really impressed with myself rn

[atomic mist]

Replace the fan

[mortal grail]

It's a 60mm I can't

[sweet phoenix]

Wait

[mortal grail]

Or was it

82mm?

[atomic mist]

You can

[sweet phoenix]

7650 gre
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-tech-gre-7650-pulse-7650gre-amd-8gb-gddr6/p/27N-0005-001X0

[mortal grail]

It's custom size

[sweet phoenix]

Wtf

[mortal grail]

Ye

It's a non sku

I haven't seen anything to suggest that it's good

[atomic mist]

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-A6x25-PWM-Premium-Quiet/dp/B00VXTANZ4/ref=asc_df_B00VXTANZ4?

[mortal grail]

I am very sure this didn't fit

[atomic mist]

Zipties

[mortal grail]

It's a custom psu

Wuh

[atomic mist]

Custom zipties

[mortal grail]

Oh

Ok

Wuh???

[atomic mist]

Remove the crap fan from the custom psu

[mortal grail]

It's fine

[atomic mist]

Ziptie the 4 pin

[sweet phoenix]

Its supposedly 5% faster than a 4060

[mortal grail]

Ok imagine like

Putting your ear up to a seashell

[atomic mist]

Okay

[mortal grail]

It's like that but pin drop quiet

I don't need to swap it

[atomic mist]

Pfff that’s way too loud

Time to go passive

[mortal grail]

U are

The way you complainin

Spittin madness

I'm tired boss

I want to call it done lmao

[mortal grail]

That's actually better than I thought. 6700xt replacement?

[atomic mist]

Just ziptie this to the psu

Cut out the side of the case

Ez

[mortal grail]

I'll ziptie you to the psu and call that sink darvan

[atomic mist]

Buy a grinder

[mortal grail]

Ah yes

[devout forum]

Felix

How about

5700X3D with a 6800 XT

[mortal grail]

This egpu already looks like a muscle car next it's gonna have a noctua side car

[mortal grail]

Sure

[devout forum]

in that same chassis you have

as an upgrade path

You did proof of concept

[atomic mist]

Go to a junkyard steal a radiator out of a junk car and tape it to the build

[devout forum]

Now supercharge it :3

[mortal grail]

That'll fit with some revision tbh

[devout forum]

Honestly 1440p high FPS gaming in that small a form factor is huge W

[mortal grail]

I think it can but not today

I'm exhausted measuring everything out I'm actually relieved it works first try

Ok last two cables and I'm done

Wifi and audio jack

Then sleep

[hoary zodiac]

Why the hell did I find the derivative for a question that just required me to sketch a quadratic

I'm too calc pilled to think straight

I saw "turning point" and went "time to differentiate this function"

[pseudo raven]

calc

can

suck it

[hoary zodiac]

To those who might not understand what I'm talking about

I brought a gun to a fist fight

[mental yoke]

is that the https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WC64NN8 ? (Noctua NH-P1)

i want to get one eventually

oh i should link to newegg, derp

🤤

[hoary zodiac]

What the

Is that a palit 1650 as well?

Wait that's a ssd heatsink

[mental yoke]

im not sure whats going on with that gpu

[hoary zodiac]

Or is it

[mental yoke]

might not be one yea

[hoary zodiac]

Oh wait it is a gpu

[mental yoke]

i just like the aesthetics that giant block of metal is giving off

[mental yoke]

huh thats a sexy card

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine a fully passive pc

That's be funny as hell

[mental yoke]

well id have actual air flow through fan-case config

if i did that

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it's gonna generate a lot of heat

Even with only a 1650

[mental yoke]

airflow can do a lot a lot

[hoary zodiac]

Although

With noctua

I'd just get fans

Their acoustics are pretty good

[mental yoke]

noctua is definitely a premium but its nice stuff

[hoary zodiac]

You pay for the acoustics really

[mental yoke]

i actually just like their aethetics. tan and chrome is hot to me lol

[hoary zodiac]

High performance and quiet can be worth the price

I got a couple of noctua fans

Not in a pc tho

I got two P12s cooling my laptop

[mental yoke]

ive got like 20 or so noctua fans/cpu coolers

they worth for sure

[mental yoke]

those rubber fan holders are nice, i always rip them apart on accident

[hoary zodiac]

I broke one already

Noctua is really when it comes to attention to detail

[mental yoke]

can always just screw it in if it comes down to it but nice for anti vibration

[hoary zodiac]

Theses rubber mount helps a bit with vibration

[mental yoke]

and actually you can put those in some weird spots

ive had fans hanging on those stretched over things

cus they are kind of flexible

[hoary zodiac]

lol

I should build a nas with noctua fans

[mental yoke]

my nas has noctua fans

[hoary zodiac]

It's right next to my bed so

When I have it on it's loud

[mental yoke]

well i got like 4 nas so meh

[hoary zodiac]

not loud-loud

[mental yoke]

i do want to get a big ol' server rack eventually

[hoary zodiac]

But slightly annoying when it's the only thing in the room making noise

Aside from the fridge

Actually eh I don't care the fridge is more annoying

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I'm thinking of getting a desktop rack at some point too

[mental yoke]

i should make a homelab

[mental yoke]

i want to do like... something like this

but i really hate single points of faliure and thats a big one

[hoary zodiac]

It doesn't have to be

You could probably set up a cluster

[mental yoke]

eh, a missile says kek but yea

[random osprey]

oh man, im living the life now. download speed on steam was at 2-2.5mb/s and its never gone higher, same with everything really for downloads. just updated wifi drivers for the first time in a while and now im at 25-30 mb/s. im zoomin now

[mental yoke]

i know how to do redundancy and what not

[mental yoke]

u get some starlink?

[random osprey]

ive been stuck at 2-2.5 mb/s for months

[mental yoke]

rural living is fun

[random osprey]

spectrum. and sadly spectrum is the only thing available where i live. its so ass

[mental yoke]

you could prolly do starlink but it is an investment and kinda pricey and not as great of speeds

we also have a spectrum choke-hold but there are some fiber providrs spread out tapped into trunks somewhere

its just getting people to route the light around

[hoary zodiac]

5G?

[random osprey]

living with other people so they probably wouldnt appreciate me hooking up a starlink for myself

[mental yoke]

american 5g is a joke but thats a whole can of worms

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

We have 5G home internet plans here

[mental yoke]

not in this rural location sadly

[hoary zodiac]

Sad

[mental yoke]

5g can work amazing when the infrastructure is there

[hoary zodiac]

5G is really great for rural areas

[mental yoke]

but ur looking at more urban/city honestly, its not a cheap thing to have on

it is yea

[hoary zodiac]

If there are towers

But ya know

Telcoms are annoying

[mental yoke]

money

yea

[hoary zodiac]

It's probably cheaper for them too

Rather than routing cables to a smaller community

Like they can kill two birds with one stone

But why would they do that

When they have a monopoly

[mental yoke]

armored core 6 keeps crashing on my laptop, im too tired of troubleshooting trash to look into the event logs, prolly some simple software thing, but i wonder if throwing 11 on it would fix the compat

gonna try it later. i still havent used 11 for home use

:stare:

i wonder if alienware offers trade-in stuff actually 🤔

its also really just a good idea to reinstall ur os every once in awhile ive had this for like 4 years its prolly got a lot of fun stuff in the registry

[hoary zodiac]

I don't keep windows installs over a year old

[mental yoke]

yea a real fresh install does wonders

[hoary zodiac]

I don't even use windows anymore

Too much hassle

[mental yoke]

thats a fun jump out of an ecosystem, microsoft is a beast in regards to a lot of pc integration in our lives

its just... literally hard to not be involved with them and tech

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah well

They should make a better OS if they want to keep that ecosystem

[mental yoke]

ngl it was nice naht to ping us for the gpu restock

[urban hare]

Which is best out of these 3? General use no gaming

[mental yoke]

how mobile do you want to be

i think that would determine my choice in ur case, cus if i want to whip it around to the living room and bedroom, i would go slim probably, but if its gonna sit on a desk more, get the fatter one

wed also need the actual specs cus those vary on lenovos

[urban hare]

My first choice too slim seems best for work

[mental yoke]

portability is really nice, i always bought big fat desktop replacements but i recently got a macbook air and it is 👌

ive been missing out

[urban hare]

For the slim
Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 256V Processor (LPE-cores up to 3.70 GHz P-cores up to 4.80 GHz / 16 GB MOP)

Windows 11 Pro 64

Integrated Intel® Arc™ Graphics 140V

16 GB LPDDR5X-8533MT/s (Memory on Package)

1 TB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe Gen4 TLC

Is that cpu good? Dont recognize it

[mental yoke]

any reason set on lenovo? lenovo laptops arent bad at all

researching mobile/laptop cpus is something you do pre-purchase. im not sure though unfortunately, not in the market to care to look at

if its new its probably fine though

[urban hare]

My girl sent me these 3 choices she wanted

[mental yoke]

ah

[urban hare]

Yeah seems good enough

[mental yoke]

if she games at all though a slim might not be ideal but if shes in like college walking around campus, slim for sure imo

[lone mango]

Sotru…

[urban hare]

Yup just work

[devout forum]

It has been done before

Monsterlabo had a case with fully passive heatsinks for both CPU and GPU

Linus even made a vid of it back then

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38a0vjQbJg

[hoary zodiac]

Me when Alfred steals my frames

[pliant berry]

Why you guys keep talking about alfred

[hoary zodiac]

Alfred is coming for me

He's 100km off the coast

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-caine-charming-the-dark-knight-gif-11786345

[sinful blade]

https://pcbros.tech/collections/gaming-pcs

what in the awful pricing is this

$1300 for a 5700 and a 6800??? HELLO?

[hoary zodiac]

Wtf

Not even xt

This is peak scam

[sinful blade]

ToastyBros at it again

[fierce grove]

ig they gotta make money somehow

[pliant berry]

it plays fortnite though

[hoary zodiac]

Is anyone getting a friend request from this random guy on steam?

Pretty sus

[pliant berry]

prob not but id just ignore any random requests

[hoary zodiac]

It's the second time from this "person" so

[fresh timber]

Time to bully you in their server

[misty sparrow]

How fitting, they’re probably a bot and they have a Delamain profile picture

[nocturne merlin]

are the a580 drivers good enough atp to recommend it over an rx6600

[frigid stag]

Level 8 faceit?

[pliant berry]

I think a lot of the intel issues have been fixed but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few more. specifically I believe they struggled with older titles but battlemage improved on it

[limber crane]

probably gonna be a weird question for this server but anyone work in QA/software testing or did so in the past?

[dusk knot]

Hello all

[devout forum]

Hi

[dusk knot]

Wth

[craggy shoal]

Lol

[dusk knot]

This is a first

Fish stinky

[dusk knot]

🤨

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224687830761214003/1347574498085572619/1741336910059453.png?ex=67cc520d&is=67cb008d&hm=0d8c6bb1ba8d932256cdc24333fd111b3401b72f4af3cc144348f8d4683182d0&

[wicked oriole]

Is taking a gpu out easy lol

[sage sluice]

theres so many things i wanna say about this i dont think i even will

[icy ore]

Is 9070xt still using gddr6?

[wise wigeon]

Yes

[fresh timber]

Lool

[dusk knot]

Lmao..is this real?

[elfin mural]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-rtx-50-laptop-gpus-also-hit-by-missing-rops-production-delays-expected

lol

even laptop gpus are affected

[dusk knot]

This confirms is all intentional or they just didn't care

About defects

[elfin mural]

https://www.theverge.com/news/625432/nvidia-denies-rtx-50-laptop-gpus-have-rop-issue

and naturally nvidia is in denial

[frigid stag]

theyre assembled in the same factories probably

[dusk knot]

Liars

[frigid stag]

laptops have the defect too

[elfin mural]

even nvidia might lose confidence from OEMs

[frigid stag]

why would it be intentional when it would cost them much more

[elfin mural]

imma wait until these laptops release

which is probably late 2025

[icy ore]

Nvidia really just said “nuh-uh”

[elfin mural]

inb4 laptops with missing ROPs

[small quartz]

Why doesn't Newegg (and other retailers) do something about the bot buying? Scalpers are buying up everything with bots.

'member during the pandemic when GPU purchases were limited and availability was managed? You 'member? I 'member.

[elfin mural]

ROPbed

[elfin mural]

i think that's hard combat tbh

unfortunately

[icy ore]

What would you have them do? Anything they do, there’s a work around

They already do captcha

[elfin mural]

but amd is saying AIBs are encouraged to restock cards at MSRP

[sage sluice]

this meme gives mixed vibes 😭

like the underhanded sexism lol

[frigid stag]

?

[small quartz]

Whatever they did during the pandemic worked well. It was literally the only way I was able to get a GPU

[sage sluice]

can relate to mashing on my keyboard tho

[icy ore]

I don’t know that they’ve changed anything since pandemic

[frigid stag]

its not mashing its just the random naming

[wise wigeon]

You think ones care?

Oem*

[sage sluice]

how is that not the same thing?

[small quartz]

(and I'm just now trying to replace the 3050 I got during the pandemic 😆)

[wise wigeon]

The same ones who still make blower variants of 40 series cards?

[elfin mural]

well they would if it affects their brand perception

[frigid stag]

cuz its not hitting the keyboard randomly

and seeing what shows up

[sage sluice]

then how is it random

[wise wigeon]

The perception of prebuilt is very low lol

[sage sluice]

your logic is insane wuh

[frigid stag]

cuz you dont know what it means

[elfin mural]

laptops are another thing

[frigid stag]

you just pick letters at random

and its enigmatic

🗿

[sage sluice]

if its not an acronym its random

and if you say pressing random keys and mashing on your board for a name isnt the same thing i feel like youre just high lol

[wise wigeon]

That’s true, but the laptop variants aren’t exactly the same thing as the desktop ones

[frigid stag]

its different from hitting your keyboard and seeing what registers

[icy ore]

[sage sluice]

this might be the stupidest argument i have ever had in my life

[frigid stag]

its like whatever letters come to mind instead

[sage sluice]

i be leavin fr

[frigid stag]

its not an argument

[sage sluice]

argument doesnt mean fighting

just debate, disagreement

[wise wigeon]

Nothing new on this server

[elfin mural]

that's also true

[wise wigeon]

They aren’t gonna have the same melting issues but the tops are up in the air

Are they even really the same die?

Though the tops issues was unilateral so far

Rops*

Iirc the laptop 4090 was ada103 vs 102

[elfin mural]

5070ti is affected by the issue too

Lemme check which die the 5070ti uses

[frigid stag]

5080 one

[wise wigeon]

Haven’t kept up with the 50 series in laptops

[elfin mural]

GB203

the one 5080 uses

[wise wigeon]

So 5080 die

[elfin mural]

ya

5090 laptop is definitely gonna use GB203

[fresh timber]

You look like a Gb203

[wise wigeon]

Hmm how were the reports skewed

[elfin mural]

if history repeats itself

5080 is on full 203 die

And yet it has missing ROPs

[mortal grail]

You've been around me too much, lmao

[wise wigeon]

Were the rops reports more on the 202 or 203 die?

[mortal grail]

Starting to say things I would

[elfin mural]

202 and 203 have the same amount of reports

so far

[wise wigeon]

Ive just seen the handful of screenshots and not kept up with compiles reports

[mortal grail]

Rops have affected all known skus so far apart from 5070 as far as known public knowledge

So consider all dies suspect, even 5070 despite being pre-remedied

Or potentially pre-remedied

[wise wigeon]

Too early and too little stock for the 5070 to tell yet

[mortal grail]

Yes

But they already found laptop skus

[wise wigeon]

It’s been two days so I give it a week

[mortal grail]

I would say all blackwell at this point

[wise wigeon]

5060 about to lose half its rops

[mortal grail]

It's so widespread that there seems to be no wafer specific config

It seems more like a defect or error in the manufacturing process

[wise wigeon]

I mean I figured this was the case in the first place

[mortal grail]

So say as GN described, the way they fused off a bank is causing more than just the expected ROPs to be off

The method or process for example

Very plausible if the process was messy, or say, unrefined

Like how everything else in 50 series apart from cooling feels unrefined af

Error is where I'd put the money on it

[elfin mural]

Yeah

It's an error in the production process

I'd assume that

[mortal grail]

The drivers being so ass from 572 onwards really lends circumstance to this

[elfin mural]

But how nvidia didn't detect this before the chips even leave the foundry is weird

[mortal grail]

"Rushed" manufacturing

[elfin mural]

Right

It's possible that Nvidia might have rushed the process

[mortal grail]

Everything I'm saying is conjecture tho

So yeah, grain of salt

[elfin mural]

I just hope it's an error, not intentional

If it's intentional then that would be insane

[wise wigeon]

3.5 gb

[elfin mural]

Don't let me get started about the 970 debacle

[wise wigeon]

But no I don’t think it is

[elfin mural]

That 970 debacle was just

Funny

[mortal grail]

I mean the missing ROPs thing I'd argue is worse now

[wise wigeon]

Amazon 1 cards drops make me sad

[mortal grail]

All skus so far up to 12%

If 5070 gets it that number goes higher

Wild

[wise wigeon]

2 msrp 5080 so far

[wise wigeon]

Prevalence or perf drop

[mortal grail]

Perf drop

[wise wigeon]

Prevalence is just a crapshoot

[mortal grail]

Prevalence is unknown

Yep

Nvidia said "0.5%" immediately after it was discovered which is unusual

Immediate alibi on the affected number? Yet still finding skus affected?

The situation doesn't make sense in that order

[wise wigeon]

Or

PR*

[elfin mural]

Immediate alibi makes it very suspicious

[mortal grail]

Feels really underplayed

I'd say it's more than 0.5% but I have no way to know

[elfin mural]

Nvidia is trying to downplay the situation

[wise wigeon]

Nothing new

[elfin mural]

But that's my opinion

So honestly, I'd avoid in general anyway

(not like i have money LOL)

All gpu arguments could be ended with "just wait for next gen"

Don't like the current gen's offerings? Wait for another

A gaming pc is a want, not a need

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-planning-geforce-rtx-5050-graphics-card-to-tackle-arc-b580

5050 with 8gb imma bet

and the perf so appalling it's not worth the price

or better yet, 50% chance of ROPs going missing /j

the new 50/50

[velvet summit]

the gambling gpu

will it be 4090 performance? or would it be 2050 performance

[elfin mural]

[devout forum]

Yikes

[rancid juniper]

Better have a 75w variant

[dusk knot]

NgreedAi?

[rancid juniper]

Both

[loud cradle]

Anyone able to give me some advice? I'm going out of town later today, and I plan to pick up a laptop so I can do some gaming while I'm away. I've got three picked out that I can pick up in-store today, but I don't really have any experience with laptops so I'm unsure which to go with

[dusk knot]

No one here is poor enough to buy that

[dusk knot]

F

[elfin mural]

what are the choices?

[rancid juniper]

Can you name the 3 models please?

[velvet summit]

rich enough? poor enough? practically the same thing nowadays

[elfin mural]

i like laptops

[velvet summit]

if only you could get a steam deck

[elfin mural]

so you can ask me about em

[velvet summit]

😔

[rancid juniper]

Rop roulette is the popular game mode rn

[velvet summit]

laptops suck for gaming while travelling (at least while you're travelling in a car or train or something like that, and not in a hotel or something)

[rough zinc]

Id kill for a gpu like that

[rancid juniper]

I'd either want a strong arm laptop or an APU that is crazy efficient

[rough zinc]

$600 gpu that has a chance to perform like a 4090 would go so hard

[rancid juniper]

"chance"

☠️

[rough zinc]

Im a gambling man

[rancid juniper]

Nvidia: "let's go gambling!"

[frigid stag]

used xtx might do it

[rancid juniper]

Wins a 5090 with a 20% ROP DECREASE

[frigid stag]

with evc

[loud cradle]

I'm trying to choose between the MSI Thin 15 b13uc, Lenovo 83jc0000US and Acer Predator helios neo 14

[rancid juniper]

Goofy Lenovo name damn

[rough zinc]

Nah, those odds are too close to hitting

Payout not as big

[frigid stag]

5090D

[rancid juniper]

Looking like a monitor model number

[loud cradle]

Lmao yeah. That's what the walmart app lists it as tho

[rancid juniper]

More like 5090DDD+

[rough zinc]

Need me a 2050/4090 range of odds

[frigid stag]

5090XD

[loud cradle]

My choices are limited since I don't have time to wait for shipping unfortunately

[rancid juniper]

Ah

[rough zinc]

5090X3D when? never

[rancid juniper]

Intel is dumb when they didn't want to make a chip similar to AMD's X3D

They wanna be different so bad

[frigid stag]

They couldve

[rancid juniper]

And yet fails

[frigid stag]

l4 cache

[rancid juniper]

Ram?

[frigid stag]

5775c was beating ryzens that came out 4 years after it released

or even better hbm cpu

[rancid juniper]

Zen 3 changed the game big time

@loud cradle what are the prices for all 3?

[loud cradle]

600 for MSI, 800 for lenovo, 1000 for the Acer

[craggy shoal]

1000 for Acer is goofy

What's the specific Lenovo? (Might be the best choice given the goofiness of the other two brands)

[loud cradle]

Ryzen 7 7435SH, RTX 4060 8gb, 16gb memory, 512gb ssd

That's the one I'm leaning toward myself, but I figured getting some advice from more experienced people couldn't hurt

[craggy shoal]

Is it a Legion?

Legions are good imo

[loud cradle]

LOQ

[tranquil pebble]

second opinions never hurt anyways

[rancid juniper]

@loud cradle the Acer is the one with the 4070 right?

[loud cradle]

Yeah it is

Core ultra 7 155h

[rancid juniper]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Predator-Helios-Neo-14-5-inch-QHD-120Hz-Gaming-Laptop-Intel-Core-Ultra-7-155H-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-16GB-DDR5-RAM-1TB-SSD-Obsidian-Black-2024/5164753187?

[loud cradle]

That's the one

[rancid juniper]

Is there shipping or you can pick it up?

Need to confirm

[loud cradle]

Yeah that one is available in store right now

[fresh timber]

Idea, we put ram inside the cpu, like 4 gb of super fast ddr5, then we put normal ddr5 in slots

[rancid juniper]

Nice, I think it's the best one in terms of specs

Though I'm not a lappy expert

[loud cradle]

It's for sure the best, I just have no idea if just worth the price

[unreal trail]

[loud cradle]

I've only ever bought PC hardware, never messed with laptops

[rancid juniper]

Type in RTX 4070 laptop in sites like bestbuy, Newegg, Amazon, or eBay and compare prices

[fierce grove]

thoughts opinions guys

[craggy shoal]

CPUs basically already have RAM. It's the L-cache

[rancid juniper]

A 4080 laptop is crazy expensive

[craggy shoal]

Good combo

[loud cradle]

Yeah I'll give that a try during my next break

[fresh timber]

Give kore

[rancid juniper]

👍 let us know if you found something

$900 4070 laptop https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo-LOQ-15-6-FHD-144Hz-Gaming-Notebook-Ryzen-7-7435HS-16GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-Luna-Grey-Octa-Core-Display-Ram/13376108763?

[loud cradle]

Ill definitely do some more research, but Ill probably end up going with the 4060 lenovo

[dusk knot]

Y not xt

[rancid juniper]

AMD firing on all cylinders

The high cored X3D chips are coming soon

[dusk knot]

All hail amd

Glad they're putting gamers first

[rancid juniper]

Yep