general-chat

[fresh timber]

Ngl, I still feel it

[rancid juniper]

That's really good specs

[hoary zodiac]

not worth

[wise wigeon]

depends for me

[hoary zodiac]

cpu maybe

gpu is a big meh

[fresh timber]

Play a game in 120hz mode and you feel it

[rancid juniper]

The 10900k ain't bad whatsoever

[south sapphire]

So 3090 still let me max out graphic settings

[rancid juniper]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's why it's a huge maybe

[south sapphire]

That’s all I want to do…on 1440 resolution

[wise wigeon]

there are a very small catalogue of games that make use of that on ps5

[hoary zodiac]

you're kinda at the point of diminising returns when it comes to upgrades

[south sapphire]

I have come across issues with ER, Cyberpunk and GTA when I try to crank everything up

[rancid juniper]

Bro your GPU is gonna hit 99% at 1440p/4k

Don't sweat it

[hoary zodiac]

you'll be spending quite a bit of money for not really that much gain

at least relative to other people

[wise wigeon]

depends

9070xt is still a 50 ish % jump in raster

same for the 70 ti

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

eh

[south sapphire]

So if I get a 50 series card, will I be able to max out graphics in all games

[hoary zodiac]

not worth it imo

[fresh timber]

I know, but Iv tried them, I own a ps5

[south sapphire]

I work a lot and I just like cranking it up all the way

[wise wigeon]

not how it works buddy

[rancid juniper]

I really advise that you dont

[fresh timber]

8’ in fact a psT gamer lol

[rancid juniper]

You have a 3090 man

[hoary zodiac]

you won't be able to max it out that much more than your 3090

[rancid juniper]

That card is dummy capable still

[south sapphire]

I realized they are still crazy expensive

[hoary zodiac]

it's not just expensive

[south sapphire]

Why is that if it’s two generations older

[fresh timber]

Litterlry only gpu worth for bro is a 5090 peformance wise, price wise he’ll no

[hoary zodiac]

they're expensive and bad

[south sapphire]

I know I am a noob at this stuff

Sorry

[hoary zodiac]

you're paying a stupid amount of money for little gain

[rancid juniper]

That's fine

[wise wigeon]

look guys if he has the money and wants to crank things up let him

[south sapphire]

What’s the going rate of them when all the dust settles

[rancid juniper]

It's just the recent gens of gpus are reaching a wall with price/performance

[south sapphire]

I mean I don’t want to just blow money

That’s why I am asking you guys

I just work a lot

[wise wigeon]

its not a good uplift for the money you pay compared to previous generations but if your current setup is no longer meeting your wants then yeah go ahead

[south sapphire]

Oops

[rancid juniper]

I'd wait another gen or two but tbh, I would upgrade if the games I play are "unplayable"

[south sapphire]

Cranking sh** up all the way

[rancid juniper]

Lool

[hoary zodiac]

ok here's the thing

[south sapphire]

I appreciate the criticism

[hoary zodiac]

the numbers on the card do not scale up as much as you think they do

[south sapphire]

I come here asking for help with stuff

[rancid juniper]

No criticisms here, just tips

[hoary zodiac]

5080 is a gen newer than 4080

but it's deceptive

and especially with the 5080

[wise wigeon]

its only about 15% faster for the 5080

[hoary zodiac]

you might end up with a gpu weaker than a 4080s if you get one with missing rops

[south sapphire]

And see if I want to upgrade cpu, I have to get new motherboard

[rancid juniper]

That is correct

[rancid juniper]

Hopefully second gen Intel core ultra ends up doing good

One can hope

[wise wigeon]

well that is still something you can rma

[hoary zodiac]

yeah but still

that detracts from the value of the product

[south sapphire]

Any value in upgrading cpu?

[hoary zodiac]

it shouldn't be a scenario in the first place

[hoary zodiac]

depends on what you play

generally I'd say wait a gen

[south sapphire]

I would probably go with new case and ram if I did that and at that point, new GPU and just sell my current rig

[hoary zodiac]

most of the recently releases are a skip

with marginal improvements

[south sapphire]

I didn’t build my PC. If I sell it, just want to sell entire thing together

[fresh timber]

Is wild ps5 pro enhanced

[south sapphire]

Don’t need too though

[wise wigeon]

its better on it if thats what youre asking

[south sapphire]

Well I have i9-10900K

Current gen is what?

[fresh timber]

Does it have an enchanced mode

[south sapphire]

i13?

[fresh timber]

Core ultra

[hoary zodiac]

yes but just being a couple generations higher does not automatically translate to better performance

[fresh timber]

PS5 games are standard+ pro enhanced

Marketing jargon

[south sapphire]

What’s the overall opinion on my CPU?

[wise wigeon]

its about 70-80 fps uncapped according to DF

[hoary zodiac]

the difference between 14th gen and core ultra is marginal

[fresh timber]

Playable frfr

[south sapphire]

Garbage, ok?, decent, good for the money, great?

[fresh timber]

In 2025?

[wise wigeon]

it was fine for its age

[hoary zodiac]

It's solid

[fresh timber]

Idk, better than 11900k

[south sapphire]

My cpu is what gen

[wise wigeon]

and its still okay today, its just not top tier

[south sapphire]

9th ala i9

[fresh timber]

10th??

Bros trolling

[south sapphire]

I don’t know anything about this stuff man

[fresh timber]

Hard to tell

I can’t tell if your trolling or genuinely wanting help

[south sapphire]

I got this PC from Xidax

[fresh timber]

Nice

If you want more performance why not upgrade your platform

[south sapphire]

You’re welcome to look at my history.

I just went from console to PC at start of COVID

[fresh timber]

Go for a am5 build or something. And keep the 3090

[fresh timber]

Nice

[wise wigeon]

@fresh timber here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4HloDRmvJs

[hoary zodiac]

I don't know what's he saying but

[fresh timber]

Fancy paper weight I got

[hoary zodiac]

your pc's fine really

[south sapphire]

Nevermind. I guess over stayed my welcome. Just wanted some help

[wise wigeon]

?

[hoary zodiac]

?

[south sapphire]

Sorry to bother ya’ll. Hope you guys have a good night

[fresh timber]

Just upgrade your cpu dawg 😭😭

[hoary zodiac]

that was not our intention

[fresh timber]

X3d is calling your name

[south sapphire]

Not trying to make anyone upset or anything. Just had some questions. It’s cool.

[hoary zodiac]

I apologise on behalf of all of us

[south sapphire]

You don’t have to do that man

[wise wigeon]

?

[south sapphire]

Kinda a trend when I ask these questions

[hoary zodiac]

We're not upset

we're just stating the issues with upgrading

[wise wigeon]

im like watching a vid at the same time was anyone being snappy?

[hoary zodiac]

this

[south sapphire]

People assume I know stuff when I only know what I read about and half the time, don’t understand that lol

[hoary zodiac]

please feel free to point out if anyone's being snappy

[south sapphire]

Naw no one was being snappy

[hoary zodiac]

I do have one of the people in chat ignored so

I don't see everything in chat

[fresh timber]

Skill issue

[south sapphire]

Just not trying to drown the chat in too many question, just want to get some help so I don’t have to use Google to decide on what to upgrade. I appreciate the help.

[hoary zodiac]

nah you're fine

[wise wigeon]

so the summary is your stuff while old is perfectlyl usable, the current market is not great right now especially with the stock issues and tarriffs

[fresh timber]

Keep gpu, unless you really eat faster

[hoary zodiac]

to elaborate more, the recent launches have been extremely disappointing and you'd barely see any generational improvements

[south sapphire]

I just noticed when I play a couple games I can’t crank up stuff all the way, and sounds like the cost it would be to do that is not worth the money right now

[hoary zodiac]

even at normal prices upgrading to the latest generation isn't worth the money

[wise wigeon]

Current GPU releases have been rather lackluster but if what you have isn't meeting your needs then its fine to upgrade, its just not the greatest time

[hoary zodiac]

you have better upgrade options with your cpu

[south sapphire]

Because to do that I am reading gonna have to get 5080 or 5090 plus new CPU

[hoary zodiac]

but a gpu upgrade is a massive cliff of diminishing returns

[fresh timber]

Does 9070xt even beat 3090

[rigid sinew]

@brazen fable your post goes up on our X page on Monday !

[hoary zodiac]

ehhh I wouldn't recommend that

[brazen fable]

AWESOME! Thanks for the update!

[fresh timber]

If you want a better pc I would recommend a am5 and maybe keeping the gpu

[wise wigeon]

if you can wait a few months stock should improve and price might drop a bit but its not a guarantee

[hoary zodiac]

the 5080 and 5090 especially has... issues

[south sapphire]

Motherboard suggestions?

[fresh timber]

Ru buying now?

[south sapphire]

Not right this second but want to in next month

[hoary zodiac]

including and not limited to:

1. Melting gpus
2. Missing ROPs (decreases performance by quite a bit)
3. inflation
4. no supply

[wise wigeon]

its not necessarry to get a 50 series GPU but if you are dead set on raytracing and cranking settings like that up then yes AMD still hasn't caught up

[south sapphire]

Should I keep ram stick (4x8)

[hoary zodiac]

You would want to ask next month then, the market changes a lot in a single week,

and a lot more in a month

that way you can get the best board when you're buying

[hoary zodiac]

I'd upgrade to DDR5, they're cheap enough and will give you quite a bit of uplift

[wise wigeon]

for the 5080 that seemed like a weird freak accident considering there was only 1 "melted" one

[hoary zodiac]

less so on 12th gen but it's more apprent on 13-14th gen

[south sapphire]

Ok and I can just google search that up

I am guessing for the Ram

[wise wigeon]

ram is a pretty consistent reccomendation

[hoary zodiac]

for ram

[south sapphire]

And for the CPU, I know there are multiple X 3D’s right

[hoary zodiac]

avoid corsair vengeance

for DDR5, try to aim for DDR5 6000 CL30

[wise wigeon]

ddr5 6000mhz cl30 is the easiest thing to just plug and play

[south sapphire]

Do I have to do the bios thing

To get them to perform better too

[wise wigeon]

to get it to the 6000mhz profile yes

thats always a thing

[south sapphire]

would you kind sending me a message with that Ram

[wise wigeon]

its pretty easy and in EZ bios mode its usually 2-3 clicks

[south sapphire]

And the model of the AMD cpu

[hoary zodiac]

yes, however, the benefits would depend on what games you play

[wise wigeon]

and the resolution

[south sapphire]

Little of everything really

Work a lot but like everything

[hoary zodiac]

Here's a tip on cpus:
Ryzen 7000: Generally solid value
Ryzen 9000: Buy X3D and 9700X ONLY
(06/03/2025), market will change

[south sapphire]

Love story games….cyberpunk Elden ring…i tend to play games that look “good”

[wise wigeon]

at 4k you'de be hard pressed to find a major performance difference between the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d

[south sapphire]

Like the feeling of VR without the VR if that makes sense

I stay away from the link animated cartoony games but that’s probably because I don’t have a lot of time to play

[wise wigeon]

rn the 9800x3d has a pretty minor stock issue but its more frequently in stock now

[south sapphire]

I am currently at 1440

[hoary zodiac]

3090 is fine tbh

[wise wigeon]

but i've been seeing the7800x3d at 399 recently

[hoary zodiac]

cpu could be a potential gain

[hoary zodiac]

any on ali?

[south sapphire]

Thought about upgrading but FPS will take a hit right?

[hoary zodiac]

gpu?

[south sapphire]

To 4K

Monitor

[hoary zodiac]

here's the thing about 4K

[wise wigeon]

rest of the build he could prob gete going now and bring over the 3090 while waiting for prices and stock to cool down

[south sapphire]

Haven’t really found one I like. I like the 1440 LG OLED

[hoary zodiac]

you have to be constantly on the cutting edge if you want to play the latest games

the cost to maintain 4K is exponential

[frigid stag]

I’m about 3 years behind the edge

Runs fine for me

[south sapphire]

So I got the Ram (did someone message that)

[hoary zodiac]

what games do you play?

[south sapphire]

Like the name of it

[frigid stag]

Any

[wise wigeon]

1440p is really a sweet spot if you want your parts to last a lil lionger and play at a higher refresh

[hoary zodiac]

do you play the latest AAA at max settings?

4K?

[wise wigeon]

hes on 1440p

[frigid stag]

Ye most games

4k high to ultra 60 or higher

[hoary zodiac]

hmm interesting

[weak mirage]

hey guys , im looking for mice recommendation , which one to get : sharkattack x3 , pulsar x2h or ok81?

[hoary zodiac]

I guess it depends on personal standards

[wise wigeon]

oh i thought you mean the other guy

[south sapphire]

So you’re saying wait on the CPU?

[hoary zodiac]

and higher end gpus do fare better

since they got higher vram

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

[hoary zodiac]

GPU

[south sapphire]

Ram now?

[frigid stag]

Idk why it’s surprising. it’s a bit faster than the average 4070

[south sapphire]

Motherboard and CPU now?

[hoary zodiac]

perhaps

[wise wigeon]

pretty much everything else is oky rn

[south sapphire]

Oh ok, currently have MSI motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

does anyone have benchmarks of 10900k vs a newer cpu?

[wise wigeon]

@hoary zodiac the wegg 9800x3d bundles from today still up?

[wise wigeon]

i had a 10700k before the 9800x3d if that helps lol

[south sapphire]

I was just gonna search up the newest model of whatever they have unless you recommend something Elden

[wise wigeon]

?

[south sapphire]

I kinda went with Xidax recommendations

[hoary zodiac]

how much uplift did you get?

[south sapphire]

MB

[wise wigeon]

gimme a sec

[hoary zodiac]

just so I can get a bit of a reference

[wise wigeon]

well i upgraded gpu too but a lot to say the least

[south sapphire]

I know a little bit more about parts than I knew in 2020

[wise wigeon]

9800x3d is still in stock on wegg

lemme look at the mobo combos

[south sapphire]

What X3D cpu did you guys recommend ?

Is that basically the best? Is that there newer one that just came out?

[hoary zodiac]

depends

[south sapphire]

Just curious

[hoary zodiac]

it depends on the price

[south sapphire]

It doesn’t have to be combo deal…meaning I can buy each individually

[wise wigeon]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4764472

[south sapphire]

Unless ita a package buy

[wise wigeon]

lil overpriced on the mobo but it comes with a free 1 tb sn850x which is a great ssd

[fierce grove]

yo is the 9070 xt from Sapphire Nitro+ any good?

[wise wigeon]

what do you think boeing

[hoary zodiac]

I cannot give advice on that card at this moment

I'm holding off on any recommendations on the nitro

[wise wigeon]

no the bundle

[south sapphire]

Here is the thing…so would it be in my best interest to get a larger case cuz right now the 3090 is close to the window

[hoary zodiac]

ehh

It's mid

[wise wigeon]

its not great

[south sapphire]

Can you email me that link

[wise wigeon]

but its not a bad board

[hoary zodiac]

yeah but like

[wise wigeon]

and the sn850x is a pretty nice ssd

[hoary zodiac]

the price is mid compared to a non bundle

[south sapphire]

What’s the advantage to buying in bundle

Save money?

Good pairing?

Like recommended pairing

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZsXbVF

[wise wigeon]

slight savings ocasional free item

[hoary zodiac]

this is cheaper so

🤷‍♂️

I'd not worth imo

[south sapphire]

I’ll pay a little more for better performance on motherboard

If the gains are there

[hoary zodiac]

well here's the thing

there are no gains

[south sapphire]

But if not I’ll go with what you recommend

Well I know what you mean

[wise wigeon]

i mean with the ssd it roughly checks out to about the same price as if the mobo has a 100 dollar discount

[south sapphire]

I’m basically going with diff motherboard because of the cup upgrade

[fierce grove]

cuz im like most def getting a sapphire pulse, if not the pure, cuz its the same thing, im just looking for a backup one in case i cant get them

[hoary zodiac]

wdym

the total cost is $778 vs $682

[south sapphire]

I actually have all my SSD slots full in my PC, but I can always resell it

[hoary zodiac]

that's not a free ssd in my books

[wise wigeon]

i mean compared to compared to its og price

i dont think the x870e is a bargain

[hoary zodiac]

yeah but like

the total markup destroys any sense of value that can be gained from the bundle

[wise wigeon]

its just not that bad for the price

[south sapphire]

Do you mind messaging me link to motherboard and cpu

Whatever you recommend or a couple choices

[wise wigeon]

also its a board with some nice QoL

[fresh timber]

I run 4 sticks too gng

[hoary zodiac]

that's the case with all motherboards

[south sapphire]

But with the case, I don’t think a 40 or 50 series will fit, so would it be best to just get that too

[hoary zodiac]

QoLs that won't be used for 95% of users

[wise wigeon]

thats fair

[hoary zodiac]

It's nice

[south sapphire]

Someone mentioned other day 2 16 sticks is better

[hoary zodiac]

if it was at the same price

but I don't think I can justify it at this price

[fresh timber]

Your fine on ddr4

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/07LQVcpj3b4

[wise wigeon]

what i mean is the bundle is about the price of a msrp 9800x3d, sn850x, and a 200 dollar ish mobo

[south sapphire]

Could someone please message me the name of the RAM and model so I remember

Please

[wise wigeon]

but hes getting a slightly nicer mobo

[wise wigeon]

thats gonna depend a bit

you want rgb?

[hoary zodiac]

are you buying now?

[south sapphire]

No don’t need

[wise wigeon]

so t create it is

[hoary zodiac]

SP is also fine

[south sapphire]

Well answer my case question

Please lol

[hoary zodiac]

although I prefer the tcreate aesthetics

[wise wigeon]

its sleek af

[south sapphire]

Larger GPU won’t fit in current case I don’t think

[hoary zodiac]

what case is it?

[fresh timber]

You can fit a 5090 kek

[south sapphire]

X-7 I think

Something like that

[fresh timber]

You got clearance for bigger

Your fine

[hoary zodiac]

looks like there's clearance

[wise wigeon]

@south sapphire https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4NM8NMC?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

i like this kit

[south sapphire]

Hold up

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/scFmP6/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afde

[wise wigeon]

but there are slightly cheaper ones

[hoary zodiac]

slightly cheaper but just as good

[hoary zodiac]

down to aesthetic choice

[wise wigeon]

its like 4 dollars diff

no big deal

[lone mango]

Prob gonna buy that when I go am5 one day

[hoary zodiac]

can't see

[lone mango]

Most likely will

[hoary zodiac]

what 3090 do you have

It's unlikely that you'll get a card much larger than your 3090 anyways

[south sapphire]

Wires just about touching when closed

[wise wigeon]

has a rog logo

[hoary zodiac]

3090s are usually pretty chunky anyways so

[south sapphire]

ASUS ROG Strix

[hoary zodiac]

they're generally near the upper limit of gpu sizes

[wise wigeon]

what is the case aesthetic you want

[south sapphire]

The only thing I know about it is it’s the only one that has 2 HDMI outputs

Someone told me that a while back

[hoary zodiac]

I don't think clearance is a issue until you actually decide to get a new gpu

[south sapphire]

I got it during the pandemic. All that was available

[wise wigeon]

most mid towers aint gonna have an issue anyway

[south sapphire]

I was just saying get the case now or it can wait

[hoary zodiac]

and even then if you're going to a lower tier card the sizes will be smaller anyways

[south sapphire]

I wanted to try a Lian Li case. But I think I can wait.

But yeah, thinking I am gonna buy mb, ram and cpu now

[hoary zodiac]

do you have a microcenter nearby?

[south sapphire]

I do not

Central Florida

[fierce grove]

to save money, you can use your room as the pc case, and let your pc parts hang free

[wise wigeon]

same brother

its unfortunate

[hoary zodiac]

HOLD UP

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805239705555.html?

AYO

[fresh timber]

Greg Salazar

[wise wigeon]

miami microcenter a hole 4 hours out

[fresh timber]

Best YouTuber

[fresh timber]

Go to Miami

[hoary zodiac]

$365.68 7800X3D

[south sapphire]

What motherboard did you suggest?

[wise wigeon]

depends what you want

[fierce grove]

whihc is better for a mix of workstation/producitvy/and nothing more than fornite for gaming

that cpu? or the 9700x

[wise wigeon]

9700x is better for production iirc

but the x3d isnt bad

its just not as good

[hoary zodiac]

define "workstation and productivity"

[lone mango]

I did not know this

[lone mango]

I feel like their perception is warped by benchmarks

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPJf2x

[fierce grove]

just having a lotta stuff open in general, live audio, 2 discord clients with plugins on it, 6 chrome profiles, fl studio rendering in the back. while playing forntite

maybe smth like that

[hoary zodiac]

so that's

[lone mango]

Like I video edit with a 5600 and a 6600 no problem

[hoary zodiac]

doesn't matter at all

[south sapphire]

Whatever goes with that CPU. I don’t know of any motherboard features I could use that they all don’t have

[hoary zodiac]

that's what I would call a light workstation workload

[wise wigeon]

@south sapphire see if you cant check your nearby walmart about a 7800x3d

[south sapphire]

I guess wireless would be nice but I do everything wired anyway

[fierce grove]

so 9700x is the way to go

[hoary zodiac]

although you shouldn't be rendering stuff in the background while gaming anyways

that'd bring any cpu to its knees

[south sapphire]

Thanks a lot ya’ll

[wise wigeon]

mine has 7800x3d at 399 and i mean that is not a big difference between the ali express one

[fierce grove]

nuh uhh what if i say please, then the cpu listens

[south sapphire]

I am in a good mood now

[pliant berry]

unless you are intentionally throttling the cpu

[hoary zodiac]

wait

hold up

[lone mango]

fl doesnt utilize all cores when rendering

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna post the two lists again in one place

[south sapphire]

Thanks man

And just search DDR5 Ram

[fierce grove]

ima stick with the 9700x

[lone mango]

fl uses like one or two

[wise wigeon]

@south sapphire honestly if you're in the area you could drop by my local walmart and nab that 7800x3d

[south sapphire]

And pick 2 16 GB sticks?

[south sapphire]

Live in Gainesville

[fierce grove]

yes yes, 6000 cl 30 then youre goody good

[south sapphire]

Where you, Orlando?

[wise wigeon]

unlucky

[fierce grove]

from other people i heard, dont get veageance

[wise wigeon]

roads are terrible

[hoary zodiac]

standby

[south sapphire]

Yeah

[wise wigeon]

in between

[south sapphire]

Oh ok

[hoary zodiac]

bad advice

[wise wigeon]

in volusia

[south sapphire]

Did internship at UCF in 2011

[fierce grove]

how come, i heard it from somebody name blackhole, they got the techie shi roles

[hoary zodiac]

7800X3D - $636.65
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPJf2x
9800X3D - $762.38
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Tmkb2

[south sapphire]

I liked it. I was in a bad place in my life

[wise wigeon]

UCF is a friggin town on its own

[hoary zodiac]

That is within context of your scenario

I wouldn't say just buy any 6000C30

[wise wigeon]

not any no

[hoary zodiac]

yes generally it'd be fine but that does not account for vengeance

[south sapphire]

I have enough storage

I have 2 NVME and 2 SSD’s. I didn’t skimp on those

Didn’t even do mechanical drives

But thanks a lot ya’ll

So that Patriot Ram?

[hoary zodiac]

well

you have several options

[south sapphire]

Thanks a lot man

[hoary zodiac]

gonna post them agian

hold up

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/scFmP6/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afde
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4NM8NMC?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[south sapphire]

When looking for RAM, I want DDR5 and is the CL30 important or the 6000?

[hoary zodiac]

these three are good price/$, pick the one that you think looks best

[fierce grove]

im confused, u said it was bad advice

[wise wigeon]

both are

[south sapphire]

Or do I want any RAM that has all 3

[hoary zodiac]

generally the 6000CL30 are the ones that aren't garbage

[unreal trail]

[hoary zodiac]

6400 C32 is ok too

[south sapphire]

And you said the only one to stay away from
Is Corsair?

[wise wigeon]

there are bad and good ones even if they run similar spec

[hoary zodiac]

yes

even if it's 6000C30 DO NOT buy corsair

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

they have a high DOA rate

[south sapphire]

And if I buy from Amazon, do I get more protection?

[hoary zodiac]

quality control is bad in general

[south sapphire]

Does

[wise wigeon]

not that you wanna deal with icue anyway

[hoary zodiac]

just as much as any vendor imo

[south sapphire]

Does Newegg do like a coverage plan

Or is it included in cost?

[unreal trail]

[lone mango]

[south sapphire]

Oh ok thanks a lot man

[wise wigeon]

im sure they do? idk if anyone buys enm though

[hoary zodiac]

usually the ram manufacturer offers a warranty

I want to say lifetime?

[wise wigeon]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

it depends on which manufacturer it is

[fierce grove]

oh, well blackhole told me all of them are the same

[south sapphire]

My current Ram is G.Strix

I think it’s called

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529049541148934155/1346993864015089704/5c89202e3ac9dfa013dbaaaa6e1949e1.png?ex=67ca354b&is=67c8e3cb&hm=901ae347aaef9274d12c147c4fc804d5bbbd6c450e6f85c267fcc0a4488fb367&

[south sapphire]

lol has G in the name

[wise wigeon]

g skill

[south sapphire]

Yea my bad

[hoary zodiac]

gskill is fine

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

not the best priced

[lone mango]

Cute

[hoary zodiac]

but they're solid

[wise wigeon]

flare x is in that range i guess

not very pretty looking though

[south sapphire]

And last question…about cases in the future…at end of the day, bigger is better

[wise wigeon]

no

lol

[hoary zodiac]

some more info on ram:
they're getting the memory chips from the same sources (samsung, micron, hynix.. etc)

[south sapphire]

I saw some cool ones at CES that hide all components

And one where everything is behind like a false wall

[hoary zodiac]

so any ram kit you buy will be the roughly the same in performance and quality EXCEPT for vengenance

[wise wigeon]

case is mostly aesthetic just get one that doesnt conflict with parts and is not a hotbox

[south sapphire]

Kinda like how most monitors get there displays from Samsung or LG

[wise wigeon]

eh

[hoary zodiac]

not sure if corsair's improved but

[wise wigeon]

i wouldn't say thats necessarily true

[south sapphire]

Which means….has enough fans?

[hoary zodiac]

their memory QA is ass

[fierce grove]

is alienware a hotbox

[south sapphire]

Or more so what type of material it’s made from?

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-mmhmm-meme-mmhmm-gif-mmhmm-twitch-gif-23291803

[hoary zodiac]

NZXT, Hyte non-y70

[wise wigeon]

ventilation etc

[hoary zodiac]

both hotbox companies

[south sapphire]

You guys are awesome. Thanks a lot. So I am in process of creating a listing for my PC, but now I am using the same case, i guess I can just sell parts individually

[wise wigeon]

if you're into lian li

[south sapphire]

If I get exact make and model of the components I am replacing…can I them by you here

[fierce grove]

my mom got me a alienware off a chinese site called dealmoon.com back in like 2021 LOL

[south sapphire]

With photos and you can tell me a good price to ask for

[hoary zodiac]

Lian Li, Phanteks, Fractal, Sama

[south sapphire]

Or should I keep them for backup

[wise wigeon]

they either make meshed up cases or tdual chamber like the o11D

[south sapphire]

I don’t want to give stuff away if the price is gonna be so cheap

[hoary zodiac]

I'd use facebook marketplace and ebay prices as a reference

[south sapphire]

That’s who you recommend?

[wise wigeon]

central florida used market wack rn

[hoary zodiac]

our performance /$ metric is different from actual market prices

get as much money out of it as possible

[fierce grove]

this the one ima get

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-xt-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854133

[hoary zodiac]

lol

our numbers will likely be lower than what you can find on ebay

[wise wigeon]

its good, was like 20 dollars cheaper a few weeks back

[south sapphire]

Should I go with the cpu you sent me with Newegg link

Or the Ali
Express

[hoary zodiac]

depends

I'm gonna link the 9800X3D review

[fierce grove]

get the cpu off shein

trsut me

[south sapphire]

Huh

[hoary zodiac]

that was sarcastic

[fierce grove]

they make good asf cpus

[hoary zodiac]

please disregard

[fierce grove]

LOL

[south sapphire]

No clue what shein is

[fierce grove]

you dont know what shein is?

[fresh timber]

i heard case, i like nv5

[hoary zodiac]

dropshipping business

don't buy from them

[south sapphire]

Sounds like a Temu

[fierce grove]

its like temu for clothing basically

and other stuff

[south sapphire]

All they sell is junk

At least in my experience

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-lFgbzU3LY
Here's a benchmark, I'd let you decide if the price increase from the 7800X3D to the 9800X3D is worth it

if you have any specific numbers you are looking for I can timestamp them

[south sapphire]

Thanks for taking the time to help

[hoary zodiac]

yeah we just want to get you the best deal

[south sapphire]

Honestly man, I’ll just go with what you suggest to be honest. Guessing the video isn’t in laymen’s terms

[wise wigeon]

basically in gaming is a 10% difference

[fierce grove]

curious, whats like the worst cpu ever

[south sapphire]

I prefer having high end unless it’s such a money waste

[hoary zodiac]

well...

[south sapphire]

7800 is there older model and 9800 is the one they just released ?

[hoary zodiac]

the thing is sometimes generational improvements... do not exist

now, the 9800X3D and 7800X3D is an exception

[wise wigeon]

its not so much a money waste as it is lower performance per dollar

[hoary zodiac]

for this generation

[south sapphire]

They just release a CPU because they have too

[fresh timber]

give me 9800x3d and im happy

[hoary zodiac]

yeah you're buying cpus at higher than msrp

[lone mango]

Intel

[hoary zodiac]

if you get the 9800X3D

[south sapphire]

Kinda like how Apple releases MacBook Air every year

Or new iPad

[wise wigeon]

?

[fierce grove]

give me a sapphire pulse 9070 XT ill be esctatic

[fresh timber]

atleast they hae difrfences

[wise wigeon]

its on wegg rn msrp

[hoary zodiac]

wait what

[fresh timber]

h that will make me happier

[hoary zodiac]

ooo

[wise wigeon]

why do you think i was showing bundles

[south sapphire]

Sometimes but mainly it’s just under the hood stuff

[hoary zodiac]

what about non bundles?

[wise wigeon]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

ok sweet

yeah I'd say it's up to him then

[wise wigeon]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-ryzen-7-9000-series-granite-ridge-zen-5-socket-am5-processor/p/N82E16819113877

[south sapphire]

What are you guys saying

[hoary zodiac]

to see if $100 difference is worth the 10%

here's the thing

the improvements do depend on the task

[wise wigeon]

i mean also the security of not dealing with aliexpress

[south sapphire]

Is there any other difference other than performance? Like compatibility with newer GPU when I decide to upgrade it?

[fierce grove]

think about whether you even need that extra performance, if not then dont get the better one, you prob wont even notice it

[hoary zodiac]

Their buyer production isn't worse than amazon

[south sapphire]

Hopefully don’t have to buy any other components when upgrade all this stuff so I can just upgrade GPU down the Line and nothing else

[wise wigeon]

wegg would also have it like within the week

[fierce grove]

cpus from temu >>>>

[south sapphire]

But will the older CPU work not as well with a newer GPU

Compared to the recently released CPU

Just thinking is all

[wise wigeon]

@hoary zodiac mostly mentioned the aorus x870E bundle because it was the lowest priced bundle with a not crap "free item"

[south sapphire]

I don’t mind buying a better product if it’s more expensive

I am not rich or anything but I will spend more for better stuff

[hoary zodiac]

it's more the fact that the you're paying 100$ for 10%

[wise wigeon]

its fine to not have a high end mobo

[hoary zodiac]

so you have to weigh it against performance

and your own needs

[south sapphire]

Sometimes the better buy is not what’s better for me if that makes sense

[hoary zodiac]

that 10% is not a constant

it can change depending on workload

[south sapphire]

I trust you guys though

More than I trust Reddit and Facebook groups

[hoary zodiac]

both are good buys

[south sapphire]

You guys took the time to help me out

[topaz crown]

Hello @south sapphire! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[wise wigeon]

realistically you wouldn't feel the difference much

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not really leaning towards any

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

but it may age slightly better later on

[hoary zodiac]

the 10% increase is reasonable for $100

[south sapphire]

What the compatibility questions with newer GPU’s

Or not a factor here

[wise wigeon]

not a factor

[south sapphire]

Oh ok

I know people mention bottle neck

[wise wigeon]

overblown

[hoary zodiac]

bottleneck is not really a constant

[south sapphire]

So the latest link is the 9800 on Newegg?

[hoary zodiac]

I can have a i5 2400 paired and a 3090 and not be bottlenecked

bottleneck is task specific

[fresh timber]

i think in any task that will be bottlenecked just from the pcie bandwith lol

[hoary zodiac]

and generally these days with bottleneck, if you have a recent i5/R5 at least

then you generally won't be "bottlenecked" much

[fresh timber]

2300x + 7700xt

coudlnt max our gpu in gpu dependent games

[wise wigeon]

but the 9800x3d as of rn is the best gaming chip

[hoary zodiac]

again, bottleneck depends on the task

that's a golden rule

[wise wigeon]

those calulators really ruined people

[south sapphire]

Professor protection plans?

No need?

[wise wigeon]

no

[hoary zodiac]

most parts have warranties

by themselves

[wise wigeon]

amd has a 3 year? i think?

[fresh timber]

kek

[south sapphire]

Can you send motherboard link again

[wise wigeon]

thats gonna depend on what you want

[south sapphire]

So gonna be able to get everything off Newegg?

[hoary zodiac]

if you want

[south sapphire]

Yea

[hoary zodiac]

you won't be neccessarily paying the best prices

[wise wigeon]

you want barebones or aesthetic, etc.

[hoary zodiac]

for the same parts

I wouldn't recommend it

there are no real advantages buying everything off one site

[south sapphire]

Can you resend the Ram links

If you don’t mind and motherboard one

[hoary zodiac]

uh @wise wigeon can you find the pcpartpicker link please

[south sapphire]

I’ll get at different places to save money

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[south sapphire]

Sorry man

[fierce grove]

not if u buy off a site that gives you some type of credit for buying off their site

[hoary zodiac]

I may be slightly occupied at the moment

[south sapphire]

Wait I think I got it

[hoary zodiac]

what?

[wise wigeon]

prob like cashback

[fierce grove]

yk how buying food at mcdonalds get you mcdonadls points

like tha

[hoary zodiac]

...

[fierce grove]

thats the word, i forgot

[wise wigeon]

like rakuten or american express

[hoary zodiac]

why in Alfred's name would you think we would recommend parts from such a site

[south sapphire]

The ASRock

850

Just to be clear

[fierce grove]

who alfred

[south sapphire]

Making sure it’s the right one

[hoary zodiac]

death and destruction

[south sapphire]

Off Amazon

[wise wigeon]

its not that they're from a certain sight, its more that its a cahback agreement between the 2

[hoary zodiac]

alright I'm gonna have to link it by myself

sorry if I'm being a bit slow

[wise wigeon]

we wanna gopo asrock rn?

[hoary zodiac]

I'm multitasking atm between a lecture

[south sapphire]

It’s ok man

I found it

[wise wigeon]

with the current issues?

[south sapphire]

If it’s the right one

[hoary zodiac]

that's only really limited to the higher end iirc

correct me if I'm wrong

[wise wigeon]

some b650s too

[south sapphire]

Don’t worry man. I appreciate everyone’s help

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

might want to get some of the other techies to weigh in

[south sapphire]

Remember, if we can, want to buy components that will be compatible and work good with 50 series down the line

100% will be upgrading at some point

[hoary zodiac]

@sweet phoenix what do you think of:
"do you think we should recommend asrock boards with the current issues"

[south sapphire]

Hopefully won’t have to swap out any of the components

[wise wigeon]

including ab850 steel legend as of recent

[sweet phoenix]

I dont know enough about the issue to comment

[wise wigeon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1i5iy9a/update_and_summary_on_the_dead_9800x3ds/

thats the summary post

[south sapphire]

What are the issues

[wise wigeon]

of all the reported burnt cpus

[south sapphire]

With the CPU or motherboard?

[wise wigeon]

honestly we got no clue

[south sapphire]

Or compatibility issues working together?

Ahh ok

Well I’ll let you guys think about it and you can tell me later

[hoary zodiac]

that's a reddit post tho?

[south sapphire]

You don’t have to stop what you are doing and help me out.

[topaz crown]

Hello @south sapphire! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[wise wigeon]

it was part of the pinned post

[fierce grove]

wont pc part picker automatcially tell you compatibility issues

[hoary zodiac]

I see mb

[hoary zodiac]

it false flags

[fierce grove]

all this time i trusted it

[wise wigeon]

it just compiles all the reported mobos that resulted in a dead cpu along with how long they lasted,etc.

[hoary zodiac]

it's not bad it's just not perfect

[south sapphire]

Any other mb suggestions or is that basically best one for the CPU?

[wise wigeon]

god its a lot of asrock

[hoary zodiac]

it's the best one for the price

[south sapphire]

Don’t mind paying little more to avoid such issues

[hoary zodiac]

actually

[south sapphire]

Ahh

[hoary zodiac]

alright

imma gonna find a new board

gonna take a moment

[south sapphire]

Yea man take your time

Your already multitasking

[wise wigeon]

but yes definitely not just x870s from asrock

[south sapphire]

Sounds like it could be a CPU issue?

[hoary zodiac]

I might have a convo with the other techies

on asrock

[south sapphire]

Or does it happen with other CPU’s

[wise wigeon]

there are a few reports onf non 9800x3d cpus too

[hoary zodiac]

it's a motherboard issue

scratch that

it's likely a motherboard issue

that's the theory

[south sapphire]

Is ASRock a reputable brand in general

Do they make other components as well

[wise wigeon]

generally but this issue has def put a damper on it recently

[south sapphire]

Or is mb there bread and butter

[hoary zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YWK3sp
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xbVcyW

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nfyH99/asus-tuf-gaming-b650m-e-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b650m-e-wifi

[south sapphire]

I think my current motherboard is msi gaming WiFi z-490

[hoary zodiac]

this is the board used

[wise wigeon]

another thing is do you want a fullsized or matx motherboard

[south sapphire]

$140 used?

[wise wigeon]

new

[hoary zodiac]

used in the list

not used as in second hand

[frigid stag]

Why matx

[wise wigeon]

cheapest

[frigid stag]

How much

[wise wigeon]

atx tuf is around 180-200

[frigid stag]

And no I can’t open it rn

[hoary zodiac]

$139.99

[frigid stag]

That’s why I’m asking

Oh

[south sapphire]

What is mtx? Isn’t that for smaller pc’s

[hoary zodiac]

it's the cheapest non asrock that's not ass

[wise wigeon]

and at that price that bundle i mentioned earlier would be a good competitor

[south sapphire]

Like micro pc’s

[hoary zodiac]

no

[frigid stag]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi

Can get this

Much better board

[wise wigeon]

you want a small one?

[south sapphire]

What’s benefit of ATX board?

[hoary zodiac]

depends

[south sapphire]

sacrifice performance?

[wise wigeon]

more stuff

[hoary zodiac]

are you going to use the entire board?

[wise wigeon]

not really

[hoary zodiac]

do you need extra pcie lanes, m.2 slots

[frigid stag]

For 10 bucks it’s worth those

[hoary zodiac]

it's more just nice to haves

[south sapphire]

Oh wait I need full
Size board because I have NVME slots I use

[wise wigeon]

how many

matx comes with at least 2 generally

[frigid stag]

Ye get the msi gaming plus then

[hoary zodiac]

I'm gonna check the vrsm real quick

[south sapphire]

I currently use 2 NVME and 2 SSD’s

[hoary zodiac]

ok yes

[frigid stag]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi

[hoary zodiac]

I'd just go for the b650 then

thanks goose 👍

great rec

[frigid stag]

Np

[south sapphire]

Will it work with the latest GPU? I know I asked already but just want to make sure for when I upgrade

Thanks Goose

Is your name referencing Top
gun?

[frigid stag]

Kinda

[south sapphire]

Great movie

[unreal trail]

[frigid stag]

Fr

[wise wigeon]

its fine

[south sapphire]

Still have to see Maverick

[hoary zodiac]

the 5090 barely maxes out pcie 3.0

so you'd be fine

[remote geode]

I have an ATX board but it only has 2 NVME slots... 💤

Intel 11th gen be like

[storm narwhal]

Not that you could even get one

[wise wigeon]

unlucky

[south sapphire]

Sorry did someone post the Ram links

Sorry if I missed them

[storm narwhal]

Or use one if you got it

[lone mango]

I have 1

itx

[south sapphire]

Thanks again

[hoary zodiac]

could someone link the ram again

[velvet summit]

honestly most ATX boards arent even that full of features 😔

[wise wigeon]

@south sapphire cooler preference?

[wise wigeon]

ima compile a list

[hoary zodiac]

oh yes

I missed that in the 7800X3D

[velvet summit]

there are atx boards with less io than a mini itx 💀

[hoary zodiac]

PA120/ Assassin X

[wise wigeon]

or a620

[hoary zodiac]

or the other one

[wise wigeon]

or PS120

[hoary zodiac]

forgot its name

[south sapphire]

Anyone will don

?

[wise wigeon]

phantom spirit

[velvet summit]

i have one

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's pretty much a PA120

👍

[wise wigeon]

same price extra heatpipe

[hoary zodiac]

wait what?

I thought it was just a minor revision

[wise wigeon]

6 vs 7 yeah

[hoary zodiac]

interesting

[lone mango]

Yeah ps has 7

[south sapphire]

For the Ram, any of the ones you suggested are good? @hoary zodiac

[hoary zodiac]

ALL of them are pretty much the same

[south sapphire]

Team Group, Silicone or Patriot?

[hoary zodiac]

it's aesthetic differences

[south sapphire]

Ahh ok

[wise wigeon]

@south sapphire what are you buying rn

[lone mango]

He said pick one of the three

Whichever you like more

[south sapphire]

Thanks man. Thanks for everything

[sweet phoenix]

The ram die is made by hynix on all three

Just the outside, the heat spreader is made by the brand selling it

[hoary zodiac]

same hynix die too?

[sweet phoenix]

Either A or M

[hoary zodiac]

I see

[sweet phoenix]

Not sure if you can tell which

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if you can mix them

NOT ADVICE

[wise wigeon]

@south sapphire what are you planning on buying rn

[hoary zodiac]

don't mix ram

[fierce grove]

yrag whats the worse cpu ever

[wise wigeon]

your mu-

[craggy shoal]

Any AMD Athlon

[frigid stag]

Atom probably

[hoary zodiac]

the sugondese

[wise wigeon]

idk some were ok

[craggy shoal]

Or Intel celery

[wise wigeon]

there were some ok athlon apus

[craggy shoal]

I’ve never had a good experience with one lol

[fierce grove]

whos ligma

[hoary zodiac]

a single transistor

[craggy shoal]

Worst CPU to ever exist

[wise wigeon]

think they had ok 4 core apus

[hoary zodiac]

mechanical cpu

lmao

room sized cpu

[south sapphire]

$764 for everything

[hoary zodiac]

vacuum tube

[south sapphire]

Not bad

[craggy shoal]

(The actual worst CPU is the one that somebody built with a few breadboards and it's only clocked at 2 Hz)

[wise wigeon]

mobo is like 10 bucks cheaper at BB

[south sapphire]

Thanks a lot

[hoary zodiac]

probably still runs faster than the enigma machine

[wise wigeon]

BB is also less picky about returns as long as its in the 15 days

[fierce grove]

on everybody soul the AMD Athlon models are the best

[hoary zodiac]

the athlon hate is unreal

[wise wigeon]

@south sapphire are you buying just those rn or are you planning on doing other stuff

[hoary zodiac]

Bulldozer exists

[tranquil pebble]

RGB gaming dragon

[fierce grove]

urm i beleive that is a tool for construction

[craggy shoal]

Bulldozer is okay

[hoary zodiac]

nah nah nah

[tranquil pebble]

early to mid 00s, Athlons kicked rear fr

[hoary zodiac]

at least Athlons had bangers

[wise wigeon]

as a fx 8350 owner I agree

[hoary zodiac]

Bulldozers created stagnation

AND it was a bad product

Athlon FX 👍

[tranquil pebble]

Bulldozer was the AMD version of Netburst... a dead end platform.

[wise wigeon]

also did it come out later that the "cores" included hyperthreading?

[fierce grove]

can someone get me this

best cpu

[hoary zodiac]

ehhhh

depends

depends on how you define a "core"

[south sapphire]

$20 savings

[tranquil pebble]

Clustered Multi Threading, it is called

[south sapphire]

Buying right now

[misty sparrow]

Gigabyte PSUs are also bangers but in the wrong way

damn

[south sapphire]

And gonna wait until get GPU and case

At least that’s the thought

Unless you have another suggestion

[hoary zodiac]

the way that bulldozer was designed called the reality of the "cores" into question

also doesn't help that a non hyper threaded 2500k can beat every single FX

[misty sparrow]

never heard of this CPU in my entire lifespan

[tranquil pebble]

If you think about it, CCD/CCX with Ryzen has some similarities to Bulldozer... but AMD took the bad concept of cores sharing internals away lol

[south sapphire]

I can wait but if it’s worth it, would love to upgrade

[wise wigeon]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14804/amd-settlement

[misty sparrow]

i'd get it for the lols

[south sapphire]

By the way, am I gonna have to reinstall anything

[wise wigeon]

i coulda gotten money from AMD? noooooooo

[hoary zodiac]

Ryzen is what bulldozer should have been

[tranquil pebble]

fr

[hoary zodiac]

that would be recommended

[tranquil pebble]

Snoozedozer

[hoary zodiac]

you can just not but you might run into issues

[south sapphire]

Just games?

[wise wigeon]

what is stopping you from a case and powersupply

[hoary zodiac]

platform switches can be annoying

[craggy shoal]

Ryzen is just Bulldozer but more serious this time

[fierce grove]

its the best

[south sapphire]

Don’t really know what case and I have a really good power supply

[tranquil pebble]

Ryzen is the "lets stop being dumb" moment

[wise wigeon]

define good powersupply

[fierce grove]

the opposite of bad

[hoary zodiac]

does anyone remember FM2?

exactly

[south sapphire]

When you say reinstall recommended….you mean reinstall games or the entire OS?

[wise wigeon]

like you got a model?

[craggy shoal]

I wasn't around for FM2 lol

[hoary zodiac]

OS

[south sapphire]

I think it’s a 1000 Watt

[craggy shoal]

PROPER CHAIR AND TABLE SETUP

[fierce grove]

ah my eyes

wtf

[hoary zodiac]

you don't have to

[fierce grove]

LOL

[hoary zodiac]

but it's recommended

[wise wigeon]

that means not a lot ngl

[frigid stag]

Eh I’ll probably be fine for now without now

[frigid stag]

Tbf gaming chairs suck

Need nice office chair

[wise wigeon]

there are good and bad 1000w power supplies just like any other part

[south sapphire]

So when you say reinstall, you mean do a clean wipe or like a reinstall while I keep everything

[wise wigeon]

it would be best to clean install

[south sapphire]

So I would need to back everything up?

[frigid stag]

Reinstall usually

[fierce grove]

best cpu cooler

[wise wigeon]

model name?

[misty sparrow]

honestly you can't go wrong with something like this

[wise wigeon]

because you really dont wanna skimp on a powersupply

[south sapphire]

Dang…well now I got more questions cuz I want to make sure I do this right?

[misty sparrow]

the classic

[craggy shoal]

Competitive chair fr

[tranquil pebble]

real best CPU cooler

[fierce grove]

yo chair if you scroll

[south sapphire]

I forgot model name of power supply

[fierce grove]

LOL

[tight agate]

Plus it 10 bucks

[frigid stag]

Just add rgb and it’s a gaming chair

[wise wigeon]

if its good enough for vergil its good enough for me

[hoary zodiac]

absolutely

?psutierlist

[south sapphire]

Anyone mind helping me with that later

[frigid stag]

All the r/battlestations setups have the rgb right

[hoary zodiac]

ok they haven't added it yet

sigh

[fierce grove]

cant go wrong 🔥

[hoary zodiac]

v

[south sapphire]

Just want to make sure I do the install right and don’t lose anything

[hoary zodiac]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc

this is a very good reference

[hoary zodiac]

for power supplies

[misty sparrow]

$30 for a normal plastic chair, $150 for gaming variant

[storm narwhal]

There it js

[wise wigeon]

i mean honestly there a re good amount of sub 150 thousand watt

[hoary zodiac]

alright gonna check where that bastard alfred is

brb

[tight agate]

10/10 chair

[fierce grove]

what on gods green earth

[wise wigeon]

ya'll remember when intel released a dual core cpu that bullied bulldozer so hard?

[fierce grove]

is that

[wise wigeon]

the g3258

it was a OC machine too

[hoary zodiac]

the i7-920

[frigid stag]

A radiator

[hoary zodiac]

bulldozer was over before it even began