general-chat

[pliant berry]

yeah most of the labels should stay

[rancid juniper]

There's now a tool online where you can recompile any Xbox 360 to PC, wtf...

[pliant berry]

wdym? any x360 game?

[mortal grail]

C360 is pretty blah these days. The MSI aios still have clogging issues to this very day as well

I would personally

[gleaming sedge]

Next guessing game what should I try and sell it for

[rancid juniper]

A group of wizards that likes sonic games managed to port a 2008 console game (sonic unleashed) to PC as it was the most requested title for a port but never have gotten it from Sega. They used these tools to achieve that, no more Xenia and RPCS3 emulator bs

XenonRecomp: https://github.com/hedge-dev/XenonRecomp

XenosRecomp:https://github.com/hedge-dev/XenosRecomp

[pliant berry]

lol

[rancid juniper]

So that means games like Forza Horizon 1/2, PGR4, and other Xbox 360 titles locked to that system may be ported to pc

[pliant berry]

it is kind of sad how many of those games just become forgotten with lack of support

[rancid juniper]

Absolutely

It gets very annoying when people are requesting it for decades and yet the publisher does nothing

So they did a "fine I'll do it myself"

Tired of games being stuck in a system collecting dust

[still sun]

Still gonna be at least 1,000 dollars I bet

[sinful blade]

40% of the original value

[mortal grail]

Omfg

FM4????

HELL YESSSS

[rancid juniper]

Bro's eyes widened

It's POSSIBLE

[mortal grail]

YOOOO

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEXYZgVfOBM

[mortal grail]

ALL RACING GAMES LEAD TO FM4

[elfin mural]

this is a big issue

[mortal grail]

THE PINNACLE

[gleaming sedge]

So like 60 dollars ouch, at that rate maybe I'd keep it

[rancid juniper]

Big truth

[elfin mural]

but im not gonna doompost

[mortal grail]

Is it brand new

If it is then sell it as new price, give them a copy of the receipt for warranty

Make sure the warranty is transferrable

Opened - never used or anything worse you'd need to sell as roomba says

Maybe a bit more for just opened

[gleaming sedge]

We shall see

[tranquil pebble]

I am going to though

[tranquil pebble]

Gran Turismo 4 is also insanely good

[lavish stag]

Whats this

Comes from here

[dense locust]

It’s a cable with a connector

[pliant berry]

I had a sudden thought about getting a intel gpu as a second gpu in my system.. and then immediately forgot that they are not in stock pretty much everywhere

[dense locust]

Gpu shopping 2025

[tranquil pebble]

we live in a GPU dystopia

[pliant berry]

It's ok I wanted to buy a new desk first anyway

[gleaming sedge]

Even looking at used sucks

[pliant berry]

used is worse for new cards xD

[heavy dew]

Look, I bought some laptops

And some keyboards as well

[gleaming sedge]

I'm looking for a nice gpu for my girlfriend that is not crazy expensive but I'm thinking 1080 maybe unsure

[elfin mural]

wew

[heavy dew]

Finna sell them ALL on eBay 😂😂😂

[pliant berry]

I think I broke something, this has been sitting here for nearly a full 5 minutes

[lavish stag]

Hi my pc isnt posting

[heavy dew]

[heavy dew]

What you to it

[lavish stag]

The mobo says orange light for dram

[heavy dew]

Also first step, sniff your power supply

Ohh

Ummm

[lavish stag]

I tried both channels

[pliant berry]

lovely

[heavy dew]

Do you only have one stuck of ram

Stick

[pliant berry]

you only have 1 stick? is this new build or ram, or did it previously work

[lavish stag]

I got 2

Took 1 out to see

Its rlly hot

[pliant berry]

well that means its getting power

what ram and mobo is this

[lavish stag]

Ddr4 sp power

Msi 760m wifi

[pliant berry]

hold up my compoter brokey

[lavish stag]

Kk

Any idea what these markings mean?

[tight agate]

Well, I got some news, PC canada just refunded the Graphic card that is still in backorder since 1 month now.

Huh

Not good

[pliant berry]

oh wait isn't that board ddr5

[pliant berry]

that's not looking too good

[tight agate]

I can't agree more with you. I guess, I should buy the 9070XT

If it the same has a 7900XTX

[pliant berry]

alright now im getting mixed messages, looks like a ddr4 slot but I can't find the datasheet for a 760m that has ddr4

[sinful blade]

I would if you can find it in stock

[dense locust]

What if they bought ddr4 for their ddr5 mobo

[pliant berry]

I think I found the right page now, yeah the yellow light is a ram problem you do have it in the right slot. I would probably try reseating the ram, possibly trying the other stick and clearing cmos.

[pliant berry]

but technically it shouldn't fit, from what I am seeing msi sells a separate version of the board that is ddr4

if you can look at the slot from the side that might help in checking the alignment, of course doing all this with power off completely

[gleaming sedge]

I think I won't buy her a gpu for now, she can get my 1060 until and if gpu prices go down some

I'll put the 3060 and upgrade my pc with it that I have and I need to get I my pc and a 3d printed bracket for some fans on it

[pliant berry]

Man, why are the file drop permissions for google drive so stupid

[sweet phoenix]

1060 is perfect for a light gaming rig

You can snag a 1080 ti/5700xt around $100-120 with some effort

[pliant berry]

reminds me I still have a 980 in a system that is technically not doing anything

[gleaming sedge]

Definitely

[gleaming sedge]

For her first it should be plenty, it's a 1060 6gb from asus and it's running almost perfect for me but that 3060 should be better than the 1060 and she needs a gpu and it'll save me money

[sweet phoenix]

I had a 1660 super for my partners build but decided to buy a 5700xt

They've played minecraft twice and inside the backrooms once in almost two years lmao

[frigid stag]

Light gaming is rough 😭 my friend still uses one

Dudes a competitive gamer

Need to get him a 3080 or something nicer

[storm narwhal]

With that 10gb of vram?

Might struggle with more modern titles

[gleaming sedge]

I'm thinking a noctua fan for the 3060, quiet but lots of air flow

[storm narwhal]

This falls on deaf ears, but AMD's offerings are plenty good alternatives

Dont need rt for competitive gaming so

[gleaming sedge]

Not cheap enough for me right now though

Maybe at some point

[lavish stag]

Yo

Just tested with a friends ram

It posted with his ram

So now i need new ram, any 32gb or 16gb ddr4 reccomendations?

[frigid stag]

Lol what

It’s perfectly fine

Plus you also need a card that works to be competitive. Can’t be playing stutterCity

[fresh nova]

Guys

Am I a cool kid now?

[sinful blade]

You just got banged

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

[sweet phoenix]

i wish

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-anya-shocked-anime-shocked-face-gif-25175112

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

[pliant berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnDYB28bL8

[fresh timber]

having backups gets expensive

[pliant berry]

don't gotta tell me about expensive backups

[devout forum]

6750 XT is usually cheaper

[gleaming sedge]

Not if you have one for free

[devout forum]

Guess so

[gleaming sedge]

Guess so??

How is buying a fan and mounting it to a 3060 that I ALREADY HAVE is more expensive than buying a 6750 XT

8 texts above that it says I have it

[devout forum]

Eh

You use what you have

I just don't like the 3060

[lavish stag]

How can u tell if ur ram slot has issues?

[charred depot]

hey!

[still sun]

Uh hi

[gleaming sedge]

Still not a good reason to say "go buy a new gpu even if you have one that will do just fine" that's like me saying newegg should buy Amazon because I like eggs

[fresh timber]

o my fllipping god

[velvet summit]

that's like

everything?

[fresh timber]

yup

it keeps cutting on and off

[pliant berry]

be sure to send them a thank you letter

[fresh timber]

i will

[charred depot]

Any help!

[fresh timber]

no

idk what im helping with

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/please-help-me-skinwalker-rizz-milkshake-gaige-gif-8161125536224477186

[charred depot]

Okay!

[pliant berry]

It's probably better to start with mentioning what your issue is. and if possible asking in the appropriately labeled text channel for a better chance of a knowledgable person seeing it

[velvet summit]

suspicious message history 🧐

[fresh timber]

bot

[lavish stag]

Will getting a new cpu cooler be much quieter than stock intel cooler for 12400f?

Nose during games and in general usage annoys me

[fresh timber]

if u get a decent cooler yes

[nocturne merlin]

is b580 fine rn with older am4 stuff like 5600?

cause i remember it was something that you had bad performance in cpu intensive games if you weren't on 7800x3d

[fresh timber]

theirs still overhead but genuinly fine

[lavish stag]

Something cheap like this

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-214-XT-Addressable-Motherboard-Compatible/dp/B09FDWPCWZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2bNeidCiI2H8xje_LDNEnmwg9lUpkLHk74GtvcnfBa6fPwQiMpq8eUNDdutUXjsHsNY6pjKJxlED9AfO1oWg9l2EMc3Suk1InkBK_153mENKj12VRcG1AD4-atpi8gYBh7Dr8P1DE-IabItGHIxobCCWJSTn2Peo9Dm8yt4gguDOaXKvtSF3FR2ZTWVzhObDWa3L-zn7AgioID_71usLbw.1E32BS4T49mNdm19pgzmgKSni-h_rudh4AqMytDeZeU&dib_tag=se&keywords=cpu+cooler&qid=1740941675&sr=8-8

[fresh timber]

just wait for them to fix the overhead and ur good

[fresh timber]

whats ur budget

[nocturne merlin]

would 7600 be better for that if i do a cheaper am5 build

[fresh timber]

yuh

[lavish stag]

id keep it at 25 usd

[fresh timber]

b580 is goin be a waiting game

[lavish stag]

the only real game i play on occasion is roblox so i don't think my cpu needs much

[fresh timber]

ask @sweet phoenix bacca knows more

[lavish stag]

kk

[sinful blade]

They*

[sinful blade]

You could go for a 7500f if you want

[cedar compass]

Or maybe 7600x bundle from newegg comes back

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/calculator-opening-intel-flip-gif-16785084747808146967

[velvet summit]

i remember having a similar type of calculator with the slow open screen

[lone mango]

Pengu

[nocturne merlin]

what the performance difference

[sinful blade]

Negligible

[worn wave]

Biggest difference is that it doesn't have an igpu

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNGUFsr

[fresh timber]

loll

if i screenshare at 1440p 60 i use so much intenet my mc server lags

[nocturne merlin]

would a 550w seasonic bronze suffice for a b580 7600x build

[vital sluice]

https://pcblaze.com/products/winter-white-ice-xtreme-gaming-pc-mini-factor-watercooled

white build

[sweet phoenix]

$5500 LMAO

Even with an insanely overpriced 5080
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NPX62x

Can get better performance for almost a third of the price, still with an overpriced gpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kRvMXR

[fresh timber]

loll

give me an xtx nd im happy

[velvet summit]

🧐

[lone mango]

Would watch one hour markipler

[velvet summit]

i already did

[lone mango]

Not sure when I upgrade to am5 but will one day

Thing is

Should I go 7700x or 9600x

9600x is actually really good and you get them for about 180 on aliexpress

I cant find 7700x on there but 9700x is actually a bit cheaper than the 7700x at my micro center

[nocturne merlin]

decent? cheapest stuff for eu but what can you do
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/list/DMvMXR

[sweet phoenix]

Decent but id make some changes

8gb sticks of ddr5 suck, they've got half the bandwidth of 16gb+ sticks

Id do a single 16gb stick and add another stick later

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/ODqC4zd_Unw

[nocturne merlin]

really single stick performance?

dual channel doesnt matter?

[velvet summit]

ddr5 is fine on a single stick

[sweet phoenix]

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/list/BL7xTM

Single channel does affect performance, but not as much as 8gb sticks for ddr5

A single stick is technichally dual channel, someone else could explain the specifics better than I can

If you need 2 separate 1tb drives id do the sn3000

The 7600 and 7600x are the same cpu with a different power profile, and the 7600 comes with a stock cooler

[lone mango]

Why not do a 2 tb drive

[hoary zodiac]

Morning wegg

[sweet phoenix]

You could drop the cooler and just use the stock cooler, it'll just be a lil louder

[lone mango]

They are technically a bit cheaper

[sweet phoenix]

Might need dual boot or smthn

Or a drive for workstation use and a drive for games and windows

[nocturne merlin]

7600x is a bit cheaper here

[sweet phoenix]

Oh on pcpartpicker the 7600 shows a bit cheaper

Mb

[lone mango]

Well you could just split the partition on the larger drive

[sweet phoenix]

Oh ro.pcpartpicker filters from literally one site

[lone mango]

Leaves space for an additional drive in the future

[hoary zodiac]

What is ro again

[sweet phoenix]

True but pro rs has 3 nvme slots

[hoary zodiac]

Romania?

[sweet phoenix]

Yes

[lone mango]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

[lone mango]

is it over

[nocturne merlin]

i mean its not like we have 1 site in the whole country its probably some partnered thing

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

The sites got stolen

[sweet phoenix]

I just didn't realize pcp only had one site for Romania

Makes sense why a lot of parts have very limited choices

If you could find a similarly priced 6700xt/6750xt personally I'd take that over a b580

[velvet summit]

every time i go back to using my g305 from my keychron m6 it feels so 💀

i've been spoiled by the scrollwheel

[nocturne merlin]

nah 6700xt is around 80$ more, 7600 is around the same price

[velvet summit]

i mean, it's like 10x more quieter because the m6 has a very loud scrollwheel, but it scrolls so much smoother with less friction

[hoary zodiac]

Keychron makes mice?

wtf

[lone mango]

I wonder what a 9060 xt would cost

[sweet phoenix]

Id take the 7600 if only it had 10-12gb

Sad

[lone mango]

Isnt that around like 6700 xt perf

[sweet phoenix]

7600 is abt 10% worse

[velvet summit]

they started making them back in like 2022 or smth idk

[sweet phoenix]

It's around a 2080 in perf

[velvet summit]

at least that was like the first time i heard of their mice

[lone mango]

Yeah they did that card dirty

[velvet summit]

maybe 2023?

[sweet phoenix]

6700xt is a bit behind the 2080 ti but a lil ahead of the 2080 super

[lone mango]

I saw one on ebay for 220 and almost bought it

[sweet phoenix]

7600 should be 200 or less used

And id still take a $120 or so 1080 ti over it

[lone mango]

That card can run 1440 for me but the vram wont let it

[sweet phoenix]

Used 2080 ti/6700xt is my budget recc for 1440p rn

[lone mango]

I took a huge l yesterday

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

[velvet summit]

their first mouse, the m1, was released late 2021

[hoary zodiac]

Does Romania have better prices than Hungary?

[sweet phoenix]

How bad?

[lone mango]

Nitro+ 6700 xt for 260 and I didnt immediately buy it

[sweet phoenix]

Ehh

I got a 6700xt 2600x and 16gb ddr4 for $225 a while back

Sapphire pulse

have you tried hws?

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

[sweet phoenix]

This was fbm

[lone mango]

I havent looked very hard or often but thats the cheapest I saw on ebay from what i can remember at least

[sweet phoenix]

Was supposed to be for a build to resell but a different dude sold me a dead mobo

[lone mango]

Nah Im still chilling with what I have

[sweet phoenix]

Ended up reselling the parts since I needed the money

[nocturne merlin]

i mean technically speaking we're supposed to be leading IT country in eastern europe or whatever and the industry is really big here but it's just gpu and cpu prices that are garbage, mostly nvidia

peripherals, monitors, etc is normal us price

[hoary zodiac]

I know the Hungarian market is absolutely garbage rn

Prices are stupidly inflated

[nocturne merlin]

here its probably just import tax

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

So it's actually not that bad?

Nice

[nocturne merlin]

i mean retailers wouldn't go out of their way to bump everything up

[hoary zodiac]

Iirc in Hungary

You can literally go all the way to Germany

And buy a whole pc

And it'd be cheaper than domestic

[nocturne merlin]

haha we have to do the same thing with pixel phones warranty since they're technically not supported here

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

[lone mango]

Bro what

What is this lab experiment

[icy ore]

[velvet summit]

i think ITX build with icegiant prosiphon would be better

[lone mango]

Bro it actually clears

[velvet summit]

💀

[lone mango]

nr200 is so crazy

[fresh timber]

u can tell whos local and not

[rancid juniper]

https://wccftech.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-x2-cpus-to-feature-up-to-eighteen-oryon-v3-cores/

CRACKEDRAGON

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

then get it if its cheaper, its just not worth paying more for it

[wise wigeon]

oh the ninja 5

[lone mango]

I see a 7700 for 200

If I upgrade this might be the move not sure

9600x a little cheaper but do I trade some multi core for better single core

[wise wigeon]

thought you also said 9700x is cheaper too

[lone mango]

Oh no I meant the 9700x on ali is cheaper than the 7700x at micro center

[hoary zodiac]

Snapdragon just released the DragonDE

[lone mango]

About like $15 but a 7700 on ebay is going for 200

9600x on ali is about 180

They are very close to each other

[open knoll]

yo i installed this new gpu and now my screens flickering

am i cooked

[hoary zodiac]

?ddu

[topaz crown]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[lone mango]

Sapphire rgb is pretty bad
https://youtu.be/J7h7hO8IrBI

[dusk knot]

Hello fellow nerds

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

sup

[dusk knot]

Sup from Brazil

[rancid juniper]

😲 u arrived?

[dusk knot]

How are you managing Florida Soo far?

[dusk knot]

Yesterday

[rancid juniper]

same old but well

[dusk knot]

Oh ok..

[rancid juniper]

lol enjoy

[rancid juniper]

u went alone or with family/friends?

[dusk knot]

All alone

So if I disappear, It's over

💀

[rancid juniper]

WILD

[dusk knot]

Lol. Yeah

It's fun tho. This is the first time I've ever traveled all by myself

[rancid juniper]

dont worry, as long as you know "stranger danger" u should be fine

[dusk knot]

I do

Coughlookingforagfcough

[rancid juniper]

and i think its best to stay near tourist areas, not somewhere u dont know ig

[dusk knot]

That's what I've been up to.

[rancid juniper]

good good

[dusk knot]

Today I visited the Avenida Paulista

Pretty great place

Looks more modern than Florida

Even downtown fort Lauderdale

Or Miami

[rancid juniper]

really?

[dusk knot]

Yeah

I lived it

[rancid juniper]

yes i can tell

checking google pics it looks nice

[dusk knot]

Ye

Pretty crowded

[rancid juniper]

newyork 2

[dusk knot]

The Internet is Soo slow over here

That took 10 seconds to load

😔

[rancid juniper]

OOF

[dusk knot]

More like 15 lmao

Uber is your best friend in this city

Soo useful and trustworthy

Uber cheap because of how strong the American dollar is

[rancid juniper]

heheh

[dusk knot]

I tried not to use my phone all that much in public. You wouldn't want to get robbed

[rancid juniper]

it aint no different in the US

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

I've never had the threat of being robbed being Soo prevalent

In Florider

[rancid juniper]

well thats cuz you're probably not out walking alone at night or smth

lol

[pliant berry]

I think at some point I should try to put a gpu in my system for image rendering

[rancid juniper]

anyways how many days u planning on staying?

[rancid juniper]

XEON USER

[pliant berry]

yee

[rancid juniper]

needs more cores + lower clockspeed

[dusk knot]

Right right. The sun is already down here....going straight home.

[rancid juniper]

512 cores @ 900mhz

lmao

[slate fractal]

Corsair is so sexy hot well visually designed

[pliant berry]

lol

[rancid juniper]

timezone similar to EST?

i feel like its CST based

[pliant berry]

I do have nextcloud limited to 8 threads but trying to load a folder with 300 images at a resolution of 6000x4000 is rough

[rancid juniper]

oh

wow

ur from the future

[dusk knot]

It's 2 hours ahead

I am

[slate fractal]

whats the folder for 🧐

[dusk knot]

Use JPGs. Ez

Highest quality possible

[pliant berry]

they are jpgs

90% qual

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[dusk knot]

What the

[rancid juniper]

ur cooked

[dusk knot]

How many megabytes per image?

[rancid juniper]

cmon

[pliant berry]

apparently the ram is also maxed out in the container

[rancid juniper]

its gonna be fat

[pliant berry]

it's only around 13MB per image on average

[slate fractal]

whats your virtual memory set to

[hoary zodiac]

I might consider getting a second mini pc at some point

[dusk knot]

24megapixels

[pliant berry]

the stack has 4gb ram, ima try to bump it to 10 threads 8gb ram

[hoary zodiac]

Then again a single i5-4570T can run pretty much everything I need

Including a Minecraft server

I have 16GB of ram in this mini pc

[frigid stag]

That reminds me I should probably get a old cpu for my nas

[pliant berry]

since I installed immich and nextcloud on this system the average wattage has pretty much doubled

[frigid stag]

I have one I could use but it’s too low end

[hoary zodiac]

Do you want power sipping old or

Non power sipping

[rancid juniper]

beeg

[frigid stag]

It’s a 4th gen pentium that I have now

[hoary zodiac]

Hear me out

X99

[frigid stag]

🗿

[hoary zodiac]

Sucks a lot of power

But they're cheap

[frigid stag]

I was thinking of getting a 4770

[rancid juniper]

V4 Xeons or bust

[hoary zodiac]

Xeon

[frigid stag]

Or some used office pc and then turning that into a nas

[hoary zodiac]

Xeons are generally cheaper than i7s

[frigid stag]

X99 boards are expensive even used

[hoary zodiac]

Chinese ones are fine tbh

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116180788728?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[frigid stag]

Those recycled ones?

[rancid juniper]

either 4790 or 4790k

[sweet phoenix]

There's also a $25 7500

[hoary zodiac]

Pretty sure the desktop xeons are cheaper

[sweet phoenix]

Or $20 4690o

[rancid juniper]

they are

[hoary zodiac]

X299 is expensive no?

[frigid stag]

I could do x79

[hoary zodiac]

eh

[frigid stag]

That’s less expensive

[hoary zodiac]

Just get a chinese board

They usually come with the cpu too

And ram

[sweet phoenix]

$16 4590

[frigid stag]

They do?

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

That's what makes them so good

They're cheap as hell

[sweet phoenix]

Some do

[frigid stag]

What cpu is it usually

Xeon?

[hoary zodiac]

2650v4 generally for x99

If you're getting a x99 don't get bundles with v2

Wait

[frigid stag]

🤔 could do ecc ram with that

[hoary zodiac]

I think i got it mixed up

2650v3 or v4

I think

[paper verge]

hi boeing 747 phanteks gnag

[hoary zodiac]

There's a variety of cpus they come with

[hoary zodiac]

Hi

[frigid stag]

What’s the difference?

[hoary zodiac]

Core count, ipc, efficiency

v3 is haswell

[frigid stag]

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

v4 is Broadwell

I'd go for v3 and v4

[frigid stag]

V4 then

[hoary zodiac]

Sandy and ivy bridge doesn't hold up as well these days

[dusk knot]

Better than any "smart"phone

[hoary zodiac]

You can use ddr4 with x99 too so

That's a bonus

[frigid stag]

I mean I doubt I’d need anything high end for a nas

I see people using core 2’s

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair

[rancid juniper]

😏

[hoary zodiac]

You could probably just get a desktop xeon for your 4th gen pentium board

And that'd be way cheaper and still does what you need

[frigid stag]

Its from an old office pc. Green pcb board

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

Oem?

[frigid stag]

Ye

[hoary zodiac]

That might be annoying with chip support

[frigid stag]

Should be

Iirc it uses low profile ram too

[hoary zodiac]

I think the desktop ones are 12xx-v3

[pliant berry]

depends on what you need from a nas, just running storage is pretty light and you can run off a celeron or something. if you are like me and run a dozen containers for apps and a few VMs then you might need a bit more

[frigid stag]

I just want to do the equivalent of google or icloud

Self hosting I guess

[hoary zodiac]

I'm running a jellyfin server off a 4570T so

[frigid stag]

Obv not on a large scale

[dusk knot]

I really wish I brought canon r50, but I would have been mugged 😂

[hoary zodiac]

Oh so just document sync

Or just general services

Haswell will be plenty for that

[frigid stag]

Ye like document files, photos videos etc

[hoary zodiac]

Especially if it's a quad core

That's actually what's great about Haswell

They're dirt cheap

[frigid stag]

Mhm

[pliant berry]

yeah so you figure what kind of feature you are looking for, whether that be straight mounting the drive over the network or using web apps like nextcloud and such

[frigid stag]

Idk yet 🤔

Honestly I would’ve just used what I had but the requirements for truenas say 8gb ram and newer cpu so

[hoary zodiac]

This is my entire homelab so

[paper verge]

now that im thinking about it are these more powerful than sbcs?

they gotta be

[frigid stag]

That office pc has 4gb and a 2013 pentium

[hoary zodiac]

You really don't need anything crazy

[hoary zodiac]

A LOT more powerful

[frigid stag]

They have whole racks

[rancid juniper]

guess so but it needs to be paired with a proprietary motherboard

[pliant berry]

this reminds me, I still have a hexos license I never used

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I'm not really running much on it

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/F2g23-xaFvA?si=t4boWNxmO2S5xGUb

[hoary zodiac]

It can do a lot for its size

I might get a coffee lake mini pc at some ppint

And retire the haswell to a secondary role

[paper verge]

second hand mini pcs are such a steal

its always the companies that thought they were abit too powerful for running github pipelines 24/7 🤣

[hoary zodiac]

Mini pcs aren't that cheap

But they're cheaper than sbcs

And you can do a lot on them

That's why r/homelab loves them so muc

[frigid stag]

Is optiplex even good for a nas or does it Need ecc ram

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

You don't need ecc

You're not running a 100TB server

With a crap load of drives

[pliant berry]

optiplexes are often used for starter nases since they are often 0 cost

[frigid stag]

Ye that’s what I’m thinking of getting

Cheap optiplex with i7 or i5

[pliant berry]

I think I was originally going to try out hexos with an optiplex

[safe cape]

whats the cheapest r7 1700

[pliant berry]

still trying to figure out how to efficiently move my apps around though

[hoary zodiac]

One thing I don't like is drive bay sizes for the sff

But I'm asking too much out of a sff really

[craggy shoal]

Can't even reach 4GHz lolll

[frigid stag]

That’s kinda expensive for one ngl

[hoary zodiac]

Eh depends

[frigid stag]

Actually I could probably do a nas cheaper on ryzen than x99

[rancid juniper]

L processor

smh

[frigid stag]

Just would need apu or a small gpu

[hoary zodiac]

It's like haswell price

[craggy shoal]

2200G lol

[frigid stag]

Real

• b350

[hoary zodiac]

I mean $40 isn't bad

[frigid stag]

Costs as much as a 3600 tho

[fossil venture]

I got 2 monitors they were working now im not getting display in 1 monitor (they both plugged into graphics card)

[hoary zodiac]

oh

I was comparing it to haswell

Nevermind

[frigid stag]

You can get 5600’s from AliExpress for like 60 bucks supposedly

[hoary zodiac]

1700 sucks

[frigid stag]

Haswell is kinda expensive too like 90 bucks for a 4790k

Can get 12100f for cheaper 🗿

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that's why I usually look at xeons

Haswell has a overpricing problem

Like bro your 4790k isn't worth that much

[frigid stag]

Doesn’t early am4 have usb issues or would that not matter for a nas

[craggy shoal]

Install GPU drivers and restart

[rancid juniper]

there is no ryzen 7 2700 for $50 on ebay

🗿

[fossil venture]

how do i do that

[frigid stag]

Like I can get a x99+ 5th gen cpu for under 100 if I tried

[hoary zodiac]

could've been patched by a bios update

if it's an early am4 issue

[frigid stag]

Or I can do ryzen and cheap b350

[hoary zodiac]

yeah you'd generally get better power consumption

I'd say go for zen 2

because zen and a zen+ isn't much better than x99

if at all

well the power consumption is better but ya know

[frigid stag]

How bad is a 2200g

[hoary zodiac]

pretty bad

[frigid stag]

Worse than 4770?

For a nas at least

[hoary zodiac]

errr

something like that

I mean

core count is a problem too

I mean why would you buy a 4c/4t if you're getting a ryzen anyways

[frigid stag]

I know single core it’s weak but idk do you even need much multi core for nas?

[hoary zodiac]

depends on what you do

if you want to host vms and stuff on it

more cores would be handy

[frigid stag]

For now probably not

[hoary zodiac]

I host a proxmox server on my quad core haswell nas

I run just 1 vm

but if you want to future proof your server

getting a couple more cores probably won't set you back that much budget wise

besides

if you're just going to a 2200g

[pliant berry]

a little dent on the electric bill is ok right?

[hoary zodiac]

haswell is probably not much worse if at all

[frigid stag]

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's the thing with these weaker ryzens

they're really just meh value wise

[frigid stag]

Ye for some reason the hyper threaded r3’s are overpriced

50 for a 3300x

[hoary zodiac]

for a quad core?

🤨

[frigid stag]

Yep

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's zen 2 but it's still a quad core

I'd rather take my chances with a 2700x

[frigid stag]

I could get a 5600 for 60 off aliexpress if they’re legit

But that’s probably overkill

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

there is no overkill

[frigid stag]

🗿

[hoary zodiac]

you're getting better single threaded performance out of it

and a bunch of cores

it's not a bad idea if it's legit

you can run a lot on a 5600

[frigid stag]

That’s nearing the performance of my main pc

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

value is value

[frigid stag]

True

[hoary zodiac]

plus you can probably underclock it

and undervolt it too

sip less power

[frigid stag]

Looks like they’re cheap because they’re tray CPU’s

[hoary zodiac]

now I want to build a nas

😭

[frigid stag]

Do it

[hoary zodiac]

nah I don't really need one yet

haswell still good enough for what I'm running

[frigid stag]

Ye fair

[hoary zodiac]

haswell is legendary

👌

[lone mango]

My cinebench score on linux is 300 points higher than windows 🦾

[hoary zodiac]

how did you get cinebench running on linux

[lone mango]

Basically nothing

I clicked the exe and wine kicked in

[hoary zodiac]

oh lmao

[pliant berry]

good ol wine

[hoary zodiac]

guess it's not too complex of a program

[lone mango]

3% faster

[pliant berry]

the drink I mean, not the program

[lone mango]

I wonder how much headroom wine is taking up but its probably very small

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

less than windows bloat... somehow

[lone mango]

Someone 6 years ago took a screenshot of r15 and had windows performance so its probably very little

[fossil venture]

@craggy shoal how do i install gpu drivers

[lone mango]

What card you got

[pseudo raven]

bes tway is from nvidia website

[fossil venture]

geforce

[pseudo raven]

so you dont have to deal with nvidia app

[fossil venture]

i just installed the new driver update

i got 2 monitors they were working then out of no where i turned my pc on n 1 monitor not showing display

[pseudo raven]

have you tried going to display settings on windows and configuring it to extend

[fossil venture]

how do i do that

if both monitors were working then 1 monitors stops picking up display does that mean its the cable? i use a hdmi to connect 1 monitor with the other monitor its a display port - hdmi. (Both monitors work i switched the hdmi and the monitor turned on) so does that mean its the cable or the graphics card or something

[pliant berry]

well while installing drivers it can disable one monitor when it removes the original version. then there are your typical troubleshotting tips like double check all your connections and ports

[fossil venture]

idk what to do

[pliant berry]

well go to your settings app and/or the nvidia control panel first and under displays see if it is even detected at all

[fossil venture]

no its not

[pliant berry]

then double check all your connections. make sure the display itself is connected to power and it is powered on in a standby state. then unplug and replug the dp or hdmi connections you have making sure you have it plugged into the gpu display ports and not the mobo ports. If still nothing try with an alternative port on the display and pc

[fossil venture]

i dont have another port to plug into the pc

i would have to buy another one

[pliant berry]

what gpu is this

[fossil venture]

nvidida

geforce

[pliant berry]

do you have the model and possibly manufacturer

[fossil venture]

geforce gtx

nvidia geforce gtx 1660 super

[pliant berry]

if you have another device, whether it be a computer or cable box or something, you can use that to verify the display is working at all. once you verify it is working I would probably just double check the source, possibly roll back the drivers if you think that's what may have caused it

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bTquKjzos

based librewolf promoter

[gentle canyon]

It’s funny seeing all the used Radeon cards pop up on marketplace now that the 9000 series got announced lol

[pliant berry]

I think there was another browser project going on that was supposed to be independent from mozilla and google. can't remember what it was called

[pliant berry]

yup

[hoary zodiac]

see thing with dabbling with open source

people can just fork your browser

same with chromium

I generally just ungoogled-chromium and librewolf

librewolf for everyday browsing

and chromium for stuff that requires trackers

I wonder if I could make two separate containers

with different librewolf configs

I've just been lazy and used two browsers instead

[pliant berry]

oh I remember, ladybird

[hoary zodiac]

I might start making my own open source wiki

with all the crap big software's been pulling recently

[pliant berry]

idk if ladybird is necessarily privacy focused but they were aiming to make a browser that wasn't based on anything else like chrome and firefox

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

here's the thing tho

a lot of firefox users actually doesn't care about privacy that much

librewolf stock settings often is enough for most people

[pliant berry]

that's just most web users in general

[hoary zodiac]

me included

they just don't want them to ya know

go out of their way to sell data

like

if a website wants to track me?

no problem I can just block their trackers

but when your browser starts stealing your data

💀

can't do crap about that

[frigid stag]

😦 its 32gb now

[hoary zodiac]

32GB is the new 16GB

and 48GB is the new 32GB

[frigid stag]

need 64 now to stay competitive 😭

[hoary zodiac]

eh

I'd say we're still in the 48GB range

64GB isn't quite there yet

in terms of value

[pliant berry]

I did try using what basically looks like jailed browsers recently. just plain firefox or chrome that you can feed through a vpn or proxy that destructs on time limits so there is no lingering data in the browser

[frigid stag]

i mean id they cost almost the same the choice is easy

ive seen 48gb kits listed for a lot

[hoary zodiac]

oh wtf

tfw 64 CL36 is cheaper than 48 CL40

are the patriot ram any good?

they're often the cheapest so I've been skeptical

[frigid stag]

ye

[hoary zodiac]

I mean even if they're not

the Gskill is just a bit more

also 6000 CL36

[frigid stag]

theyre fine

windows 11 taking Ls

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAH

[remote geode]

yeah I just upgraded to 32gb last year

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH

24H2 moment

🤡

[frigid stag]

🗿

[pliant berry]

linux shall rise before win 11 does

[remote geode]

16GB was causing some leaky games to crash

[hoary zodiac]

this is a certified windows 8 moment

[frigid stag]

XDDD

[remote geode]

like warthunder dx12

[hoary zodiac]

microsoft is good at shooting themselves in the foot

[frigid stag]

We waiting for windows 12 bois

[hoary zodiac]

like

people will put up with linux's crap

because it's better than putting up with microsoft's crap

[frigid stag]

true

[hoary zodiac]

microsoft practically has a monopoly

and yet we're seeing a lot of growth in linux

like

if you just look at market share

[hoary zodiac]

it's still a few percent

[frigid stag]

its higher than mac

[hoary zodiac]

but that few percent is A LOT OF PEOPLE

when more people are adopting linux

more developers will want to support it too

and Linux's improved a lot in the last couple years too

especially with valve's entry into linux gaming

[frigid stag]

then they got rid of it for some dumb reason

[hoary zodiac]

something something

cheaters

but in reality

[frigid stag]

ye even though theyre still there

[hoary zodiac]

they just don't want to spend the resources on an extra platform

[frigid stag]

pretty much

[hoary zodiac]

the cheaters thing is an excuse

[frigid stag]

same with win 7

[hoary zodiac]

eh I'd say win 7 is more reasonable

[frigid stag]

which they didnt even announce iirc. just stopped working for people

[hoary zodiac]

the difference with that is that

most mainstream linux distros have active updates

and here's the kicker with linux

most games actually do have anticheat support

[pliant berry]

it's probably more of a maintenance and support cost thing

[hoary zodiac]

they're just not enabled

[hoary zodiac]

pretty short sighted ngl

especially with f2p games

that rely on microtransactions

like linux's market share is small

but it's still a lot of people

[pliant berry]

trying to help a user on a linux system can be a lot more difficult than a windows user since there is so much variance in configurations. Then again I don't think a linux user is the type of person that is calling support

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

they don't really have to tho

[pliant berry]

I like to think of it as kind of similar to why there are some app devs that only target iOS and just forget about android entirely

[hoary zodiac]

some games just... run

on linux

they have full anti cheat support and everything

the studio just chose not to enable it

GTA Online for example

ran perfectly on linux

until they decided to turn off the anticheat support

[pliant berry]

if only their anticheat worked in the first place

[hoary zodiac]

yeah it doesn't even work for windows

so like

????

[misty sparrow]

Pretty sure in the anti cheat they use, they can turn on Linux support but they choose not to

[pliant berry]

well yeah, I think apex did the same thing

a lot of people actually did play on steam deck and suddenly they decided nope, can't do that no more

[nocturne merlin]

lol this was a while ago mb but i wanted to ask why the sn over crucial?

and do you mean having both drives be the sn or crucial as the boot drive and the other as sn

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[sweet phoenix]

You can just use 1 2 tb ssd unless you know you specifically need two drives for separate things

The sn3000 is basically a newer bit cheaper p3 plus, either is fine

Having windows on your game drive is fine as long as you leave abt 100gb or so of free space

Having a dedicated windows drive comes from the days of having a small, expensive ssd with a large hdd

[nocturne merlin]

i'd rather have 2 drives for some sort of redundancy so one still works incase i have to send one out for warranty

[frigid stag]

Ye much safer especially if your windows breaks

Don’t need to reinstall everything

[sweet phoenix]

Fair but it also limits your expandability

The pro rs does have 3 m.2 slots

So you'll have one more nvme available

With the ds3h youd be limited to sata ssds when you add storage, or replacing one of the existing drives

[nocturne merlin]

yeah but 3tb is plenty if i ever upgrade for more and general files and games i can always get a 2.5 ssd for

or the 3rd drive being the 2b one

[sweet phoenix]

The third could be a 4/8tb even

[nocturne merlin]

yeah lol but thats a bit overkill

[sweet phoenix]

2tb just normally works out a bit cheaper than 2 1tb drives, but if it's worth it to you it's your pc not mine

[nocturne merlin]

anyhow you're saying the sn3000 will have the performance as the crucial? its quite a bit cheaper

[sweet phoenix]

P3 plus has been around quite some time

The sn3000 is a new version of the sn300 a while back, it's "low end" but past a certain point (which is a sata ssd) the speed of your ssd really doesn't matter for games

Actually the p3 plus might have a higher tbw rating

One second

Let me google

Yeah the p3 plus does

[nocturne merlin]

i see that might help cause my drives get written a lot

[sweet phoenix]

Considered your worried abt lifespan id get one of these
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/JFjRsY/western-digital-wd-blue-sn5000-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t4b0e

And then one of the p3 plus

[nocturne merlin]

alr thanks

[sweet phoenix]

Np

[sweet phoenix]

Btw comparing specs, sn5000 is tlc instead of qlc, has a better controller, and a higher tbw than the p3 plus

600tbw

[nocturne merlin]

honestly atp im getting nvme cause its just way cheaper than sata, i just need good endurance and storage

the speed is a bonus anyways lol

also this is for a seperate build, could you recommend a nice cheap middle tower case? 4000d is a kinda overkill

deepcool stuff is nice but they're mostly matx

[sweet phoenix]

Dc560 was the cheapest decent ATX option i saw

But kinda ugly imo

[nocturne merlin]

yeah

my only criteria is having the front panel also be metal, i don't like the plastic ones the majority have

[sweet phoenix]

Wdym?

Like not a mesh front?

Or just the material be metal, you dc how it looks

[nocturne merlin]

nah mesh is fine i mean just the material being metal

[sweet phoenix]

Well this isn't metal but .https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/TPRwrH/deepcool-cg580-atx-mid-tower-case-r-cg580-bknda0-g-1

Otherwise I think this
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/cJJgXL/msi-mag-forge-112r-atx-mid-tower-case-mag-forge-112r

But google is your friend

Id double check on the material

[nocturne merlin]

found CH510 which seems to be just the macube 110 but bigger

its probably fine?

[sweet phoenix]

Is that the one with a mesh front?

If its solid than nah

Bad airflow

If its got mesh it's the decent one

[nocturne merlin]

its perforated on the side, does airflow matter that much?

[sweet phoenix]

It's not something to ignore

The ch510 looks like a hot box to me

[nocturne merlin]

with the top mesh im guessing it'll cool a 65w tdp cpu and a 2 fan gpu

[sweet phoenix]

Prolly but you'll still have higher temps and you'll need to keep temps in mind when you upgrade

[nocturne merlin]

true

[sweet phoenix]

Id rather have good airflow at the same/similar price

[nocturne merlin]

got it

[misty sparrow]

Hello

[sour falcon]

hello bread

[sinful blade]

Hello son

[misty sparrow]

dad?

[sinful blade]

It’s me

I have come back

Not with milk, but with several different sized forks

[misty sparrow]

can i have some forks

[fresh timber]

server ran out of storage so im running server on my pc, the panel i used also crashed. 🙂 atleast the world is recoverable

[sinful blade]

You can have 3

[misty sparrow]

cool thanks

i want the cheese fork

[tranquil pebble]

running out of storage will crash lots of things lol

[storm narwhal]

Lol what

AMD's cards perfectly fine but clearly not that you'd care to look at benchmarks

If anything, I've been having more issues with my 3050M recently and a lot of people who aren't tech savvy are noticing latest nvidia drivers are actually ass

And ruin their fps and game stability

[lone mango]

Depending on your setup, you can do rt just fine with amd but you need a card that is really powerful for the performance bracket you are in

Because they are a gen behind with rt

So you need something more powerful overall

[hoary zodiac]

I have a feeling they will close the gap this gen

[storm narwhal]

Yeah Obvs they're not the best for RT lol

[lone mango]

But still doable

[storm narwhal]

But it's always been a gimmick

Still is, imo

[lone mango]

But people always act like its over

[storm narwhal]

Nvidia is just forcing it into everything

[lone mango]

Depending on your card not really

[hoary zodiac]

I also hate mandated RT

Like really?

[lone mango]

Its closing but they are still pretty behind

[hoary zodiac]

Why?

[lone mango]

Even now

[storm narwhal]

Prebaked lighting and smart choices can look just as good as mandated RT

Except only if you're playing games with realtime destructible environments

[lone mango]

But since this launch was so lackluster maybe amd could actually catch up next generation when they unify their graphics architectures

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe if they poach some of the ryzen engineers

[lone mango]

Fr look at minecraft shaders

[storm narwhal]

But noo RT is required for everything bro trust mee

The more you buy the more you save

[hoary zodiac]

It's like using a -git package or a -bin

[lone mango]

Kinda funny they catch up because of a mid launch but game is game

[hoary zodiac]

Sure you can get more flexibility with the -git

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

But I don't wanna wait an hour to compile ungoogled-chromium-git

I just want to use my browser

Like I ain't wasting an hour to compile a web browser

[storm narwhal]

It only makes sense if it's not in its current implementation

Where RT is forced and DLSS is used as the all new render pipeline

Effectively reinventing the wheel on rendering from like

[hoary zodiac]

It's like streaming

[storm narwhal]

A circle to a hexagon

[hoary zodiac]

I can self host a movie over the internet and it'd look way better than netflix

[storm narwhal]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Like why do we have to play games rendered a lower res

When we can just play it normally

[storm narwhal]

Imagine having to render an entire animated movie in real time just to watch it

That's the current idea of DLSS

[idle nexus]

haha thank you

[hoary zodiac]

DLSS is like netflix compression

[storm narwhal]

Ooh sorry your rt cores aren't enough to play this game guess you need to buy a new card bro

[hoary zodiac]

In terms of visual quality

[idle nexus]

I've been meaning to play fallout 4 on it because supposedly it's one of the few games that's well optimized for SLI

[lone mango]

Credit where its due tho dlss 4 is pretty crazy

[storm narwhal]

Its still got the same issues, but admittedly less

[lone mango]

And you WILL like it

[storm narwhal]

But I absolutely still see it in Cyberpunk

[hoary zodiac]

I mean web compression is good but I'd rather watch my blu ray

Same with games and DLSS

[hoary zodiac]

Dvd even

[storm narwhal]

Idk what crack Linus was smoking in there dlss4 review on cyberpunk

[lone mango]

Also credit to amd for not showing upscaling in benchmarks

[hoary zodiac]

Paid shill

[storm narwhal]

But there was quite a few issues and frame pacing that they didn't even mention

[hoary zodiac]

Nah maybe they just didn't care

They were probably behind

[idle nexus]

ig I need to download CyberPunk to see how it looks now

[nocturne flicker]

That high grade Nvidium

[idle nexus]

I haven't played since 12900K/3080ti

[hoary zodiac]

Or maybe AMD big brained

[lone mango]

Idk you take take it both ways, like they could have done fsr upscaling but have 4 on the new cards and 3 on the older ones

[hoary zodiac]

Thought of getting goodwill instead of cheap marketing points

[idle nexus]

wait, so nvidia app can do this already? https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper

[lone mango]

But they didnt

[hoary zodiac]

We'll never know what they were thinking

[idle nexus]

there's a mod for Fallout 4 that you can use upscaler

[storm narwhal]

DLSS is def better now but it's still got the ghosting behind your car and the halo around characters and stuff

[idle nexus]

I'm using DLSS 4 in FO4 lol

[hoary zodiac]

But AMD is less disconnected from their customer base than Nvidia

So

[lone mango]

Ok but can we get upscaling in minecraft thanks

[hoary zodiac]

They're probably onto something

[nocturne flicker]

We shouldn't criticize him for it though because if we do he'll have a 30 minute WAN show segment dedicated to crying about how hard and unfair it is for him

[idle nexus]

if there's a mod to make it support upscaling, you should be able to use dlss-swapper to get the latest version of DLSS working

[hoary zodiac]

Distant horizons helps

You get LoD

[storm narwhal]

Doesn't that make it worse

[hoary zodiac]

You can crank the chunks way down

[storm narwhal]

Oh I guess only if you set it far

Yeah nvm

[hoary zodiac]

No because you can lower the chunks

Since you can see far now

[idle nexus]

if this was just those worlds you can get for free off the shop? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/campaigns/minecraft-with-rtx/

[hoary zodiac]

You see further while using the same or less resources

It's pretty goated

[idle nexus]

isn't MC like 90% single thread on CPU performance? lol

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[storm narwhal]

Java aah game

[hoary zodiac]

You can probably overclock a 8700k

And it'd beat a x3d

Actually maybe not

I wonder how Minecraft interacts with cache

[lone mango]

Nah it also likes x3d

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[idle nexus]

MC shows as not having DLSS at all for me but that's also just the launcher so let me see if I can manually add the app

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe 5700x lol

[idle nexus]

I hate when games/programs/whatever are "apps" on windows

so they're not in Program Files but hidden in the dark depths of AppData or User/Roaming or something

[lone mango]

Im having a weird performance issue where when i load up the world my framerate and utilization will go down over time

[hoary zodiac]

hmmmm

Overclocked 9700k would be interesting to see

[storm narwhal]

Thankfully there is revouninstaller

[lone mango]

I would go from like 90-120 down to 20 if I play long enough

[storm narwhal]

But yeah like pls

Just be a normal "app"

[hoary zodiac]

Probably caching

[misty sparrow]

what are you using to see if certain applications have DLSS

[hoary zodiac]

When new chunks are generated they use up more resources

[lone mango]

I should reboot snd try again because it wasnt like this when I first started