Pretty much
#general-chat
rancid juniper
devout forum
Interesting
rancid juniper
You can max out an XTX card without using the best in class CPU I think
dusk knot
Hmmm
devout forum
But that's kind of awesome actually
dusk knot
What's going on in America?
rancid juniper
I mean in some games (NFS heat) my GPU doesn't reach 99% most of the time when in motion
frigid stag
rancid juniper
That game is CPU heavy
frigid stag
At least it had rgb 
opaque sedge
Guys should i get it
devout forum
Dewit
Cuz I might end up doing something really stupid
Like pairing a 4080 with a 7600X
:3
frigid stag
But why
opaque sedge
That game is CPU heavy
Ur mom’s cpu heavy
mental yoke
i see nothing stupid about that
opaque sedge
Like pairing a 4080 with a 7600X
Pretty sure a lot of people have done that
devout forum
It feels wrong
frigid stag
I see many things wrong with it
rancid juniper
Ur mom’s cpu heavy
Thanks, she really executes a lot of instruction
frigid stag
Are you 4k gamer?
devout forum
No actually
rancid juniper
Guessing 1440p
devout forum
1440p at that point
Ye
Mainly cuz 4k OLEDs are expensive
And I crave the QD-OLED
mental yoke
ngl i hate oled
frigid stag
Many people use their TVs at this point
mental yoke
yall can have it. ive owned multiple oled panels and ive hated every single one
frigid stag
yall can have it. ive owned multiple oled panels and ive hated every single one
Cause of flicker?
opaque sedge
yall can have it. ive owned multiple oled panels and ive hated every single one
Gimme
mental yoke
auto dimming sucks, pixel shifting sucks, specifically lg software is trash
frigid stag
Might’ve been pwm sensitive
mental yoke
id have to try some other panels
devout forum
Those are all things that are long solved by now
sinful blade
Donate your oled to me, with my 1680x1050 panel
devout forum
Like current gen OLEDs absolutely don't have those problems (and even the flicker thing is kind of magnified by a few people loudly complaining that are sensitive to it while most people wouldn't even notice)
mental yoke
anywho i prefer not oled
frigid stag
You’d truly have something wrong to not notice. I’m not even pwm sensitive and it still causes strain
opaque sedge
Guys when’s the next steam sale 
mental yoke
its horrendous, i want to try a suprt short throw projector now
devout forum
You’d truly have something wrong to not notice. I’m not even pwm sensitive and i...
I'm willing to tolerate that for the upsides
mental yoke
the market is kinda small though
devout forum
its horrendous, i want to try a suprt short throw projector now
Lol projectors are worse
mental yoke
for you
rancid juniper
Guys when’s the next steam sale <:peepoSadSip:641081095479361536>
Summer maybe
devout forum
I've never been able to enjoy even cinema because the projectors are trash even there
frigid stag
I mean if you don’t have eye strain or see flicker I’d see why you’d like it
devout forum
And those were supposed to be good ones
opaque sedge
Summer maybe
Jesus there aint a spring sale
rancid juniper
Oh
devout forum
never been to a good imax?
I was tho
And the contrast was ass
frigid stag
I mean if you don’t have eye strain or see flicker I’d see why you’d like it
But if you can notice it too then idk
devout forum
Like
dense locust
Oled has flicker?
devout forum
It was actively pulling me out of movie immersion cuz the image was so bad
mental yoke
oled has a lot of quirks
devout forum
Oled has flicker?
It can in some circumstances
dense locust
frigid stag
Proof you don’t need oled to get good contrast
devout forum
Mainly when there are sudden and wild swings in refresh rate
frigid stag
Guess what monitor is what type
devout forum
(EG loading screens)
dense locust
Mainly when there are sudden and wild swings in refresh rate
So like when playing bad optimized AAA games
(All of them)
devout forum
Proof you don’t need oled to get good contrast
Left is OLED
mental yoke
those are both the same monitor
rough zinc
Proof you don’t need oled to get good contrast
Right is VA?
frigid stag
Ips
dense locust
Proof you don’t need oled to get good contrast
Pretty good you still notice the light bleed tho
frigid stag
devout forum
The haloing and the artifacts give it away
rough zinc
I love my monitor ngl, can't beat a 43" QLED for $500
frigid stag
The haloing and the artifacts give it away
You must’ve had a trash crt then
devout forum
Nah
rough zinc
Definitely ain't as good as an OLED but it's most of the way there
frigid stag
I haven’t used one since the late 2000s
devout forum
It's just pretty blatantly obvious that CRT flickers worse than OLED
frigid stag
You mean scan lines?
devout forum
CRT flickers all the time
OLED flickers when you have sudden wild swings of framerate
devout forum
Ah yes
Because a photo shows something
Makes sense
I wonder why my phone has zero flicker whatsoever while being OLED
(AMOLED but still)
frigid stag
Cause you can’t see it lmao
devout forum
So then what's your problem?
frigid stag
Take a photo of it in the dark like that picture and you’d see
devout forum
If it's flickering so bad to be unusable
frigid stag
So then what's your problem?
Not everyone has the same perception
devout forum
Whÿ is it a complete non-issue?
frigid stag
Same way some people claim they can’t notice 360hz over 120
devout forum
Not everyone has the same perception
Oh no you came here being like "They all always flicker" and then move goalposts when I point out that mine has literally zero flicker
dense locust
All leds flicker
mental yoke
Same way some people claim they can’t notice 360hz over 120
ngl i bought this alienware 360hz panel and it feels like trash for some reason compared to some other like 144hz panels i got
frigid stag
Take a photo of it in the dark like that picture up there and you’ll see it
dense locust
Just too fast too see
frigid stag
All leds flicker
Old ones used to but not anymore really
frigid stag
ngl i bought this alienware 360hz panel and it feels like trash for some reason ...
The Oled?
devout forum
Take a photo of it in the dark like that picture up there and you’ll see it
Imagine being that nitpicky with one but completely ignoring all the benefits
dense locust
The only lights that don’t flicker are incandescents but that’s because they just light up a wire
devout forum
ngl i bought this alienware 360hz panel and it feels like trash for some reason ...
100% defective in that case
frigid stag
Imagine being that nitpicky with one but completely ignoring all the benefits
If I see flicker that outweighs any possible benefits
It would be unbearable to me if I had to deal with pwm on a monitor
devout forum
If I see flicker that outweighs any possible benefits
I guess you have cameras for your eyes
That have set shutter speeds
frigid stag
Besides what other benefits are there?
devout forum
Interesting
devout forum
Yeah you're just blind not to see the halo artifacts, the blacks being awful and the motion
mental yoke
100% defective in that case
eh... i think theres some weird mind trick my eyes are playing when it deals with maximizing the game to the frame rate of the panel but thats going into very obscure preferences
devout forum
Completely disingenuous
frigid stag
Yeah you're just blind not to see the halo artifacts, the blacks being awful and...
What halo artefacts?
How do the blacks look awful
frigid stag
Where do you see artefacts
devout forum
Where do you see artefacts
I'm sorry that your eyesight is too bad to see the skyscraper-sized artifacts
frigid stag
It’s not a perfect ufo test picture but it’s fine
frigid stag
I'm sorry that your eyesight is too bad to see the skyscraper-sized artifacts
My eye sight is 2020
Don’t buy cheap ips monitor and no issues
devout forum
Yeah no that's a good joke but you might unironically want to visit an optometrist
frigid stag
You probably think this is what ips looks like
mental yoke
are you the bad cop in the good cop dynamic hole
devout forum
Because if you genuinely think that any IPS is even in the same zip code as OLEDs you need either your eyes checked or something
devout forum
You probably think this is what ips looks like
It's MFING GLOWING
mental yoke
that looks horrible
devout forum
Even FALD IPS is gonna be very far behind any OLED
Because there's no way you have like 8 million dimming zones
You're literally describing yourself bro
frigid stag
Lol
mental yoke
im just hating oled panels i think started this sorry
frigid stag
I can't help you there
I’m not the one justifying an expensive purchase to someone on the internet on how it was “sooo wOrTh iT”
devout forum
im just hating oled panels i think started this sorry
I think you had a defective one ngl
mental yoke
apple vision pro is the only way to watch anything anyway
frigid stag
Enjoy or oled you don’t have to convince anyone
No one else has to know how it’s the best
mental yoke
😏
devout forum
Which I mean
Bad first experience def doesn't help
mental yoke
i hate lg more than i hate oled if thats any consolation
devout forum
Enjoy or oled you don’t have to convince anyone
Thankfully people don't think like you and desperately try to cling onto IPS and pretend it's not superseded as display tech
frigid stag
Thankfully people don't think like you and desperately try to cling onto IPS and...
I don’t even use ips why do you care so much
devout forum
i hate lg more than i hate oled if thats any consolation
Don't hate the player, hate the game
devout forum
I don’t even use ips <:kekw:741678350791081994> why do you care so much
Then why simp for it so hard?
frigid stag
Where am I simping for anything?
mental yoke
lg just....
frigid stag
Are you good?
devout forum
You're trying sooooooo damn hard to ignore every advantage OLED is known to have and latch onto a thing that's at worst an occasional inconvenience for 99% of people and then act like IPS is somehow not inferior because it "doesn't have this mild inconvenience that I blew up into a huge problem that invalidates everything else"
Like
C'mon
mental yoke
but ur trying so hard also? discussions are fine. i dont think anyone here trying to get to that point
of just back and forth escalation of minor name calling into major
mental yoke
micro-oled is good compared to oled 👍
sage sluice
My vram on idle is so high huh 😭
devout forum
Fundamentally speaking
dense locust
Yeah you're just blind not to see the halo artifacts, the blacks being awful and...
I just saw a video where dyi perks made a tv with good contrast
mental yoke
My vram on idle is so high huh 😭
like idle desktop?
rough zinc
How do the blacks look awful
The blacks literally look grey
sage sluice
like idle desktop?
Yee
devout forum
I mean holy crap, VA panels flicker significantly worse than most OLEDs do
sage sluice
I mean amd do amd things
frigid stag
You're trying sooooooo damn hard to ignore every advantage OLED is known to have...
“Occasional inconvenience” is such a disgenuine thing to say. It’s like saying someone needing glasses but not having them is a “tiny inconvenience.
Are you unable to comprehend that some people have different perceptions of things and maybe you can’t see the flicker
~~ or alternatively you’re seeing it and are in denial and that’s why you’re arguing so hard~~
devout forum
But nobody is talking about that
mental yoke
go play some games and stress it out then come back
devout forum
“Occasional inconvenience” is such a disgenuine thing to say. It’s like saying s...
VA flicker is unironically worse than OLED to the point that I can tell and I'm not allergic to it
sage sluice
I might
mental yoke
if it pops and shuts down, maybe go back to where u at now
misty sparrow
frigid stag
The blacks literally look grey
They look pretty similar to me
Do you see artefacts in this
devout forum
Then I'm sorry that you're blind
mental yoke
artefacts require motion
sage sluice
They look pretty similar to me
Its easier to see irl, also these are poor image examples
Theyre already high contrast images
frigid stag
VA flicker is unironically worse than OLED to the point that I can tell and I'm ...
That happens when you’re scrolling on a black background with white text usually and that’s smearing that you’re thinking of
devout forum
The skyscraper-sized glow zone around the honey stick
sage sluice
Oled is really good at showing detail at lower light levels
frigid stag
Its easier to see irl, also these are poor image examples
Do you see artefacting
Yes or no
devout forum
That happens when you’re scrolling on a black background with white text usually...
And no
That's literally a thing but you're cherrypicking about it
frigid stag
And no
That's literally a thing but you're cherrypicking about it
That’s called smearing
You don’t even know the name for it
devout forum
Do you see artefacting
Ah yes
You're trying to rely on a poor image
But I called the PLED in 7 seconds
devout forum
That’s called smearing
That's actually rarted
worthy meteor
VA panels sometimes suffer from ghosting, sometimes it's straight up flickering
sage sluice
Do you see artefacting
Its too blurry to really tell
frigid stag
Its too blurry to really tell
Exactly
devout forum
That's avtual gaslighting
sage sluice
What is your point tho
sweet phoenix
They look pretty similar to me
So this might sound crazy
wraith fern
So this might sound crazy
who made bro a techie
devout forum
Its too blurry to really tell
I called left is OLED immediately
And it was
sweet phoenix
Looking at an oled and ips display through a non oled or mini led display
sweet phoenix
Looking at an oled and ips display through a non oled or mini led display
Isn't the same as actually looking at an oled/mini led display
devout forum
I'm looking on a Super AMOLED
frigid stag
That's avtual gaslighting
The irony though
sage sluice
I called left is OLED immediately
And it was
You can literally tell by the backlight and contrast lol
sweet phoenix
who made bro a techie
Huh
worthy meteor
If you zoom in you can tell one is gray and one is actually black
devout forum
You can literally tell by the backlight and contrast lol
Bro's just cooking
sweet phoenix
Thats been a thing for a while
sage sluice
Bacca has been for a minute
sweet phoenix
Its been since like June or August
wraith fern
hmmmmmmmm
devout forum
Anyway
lone mango
My vram on idle is so high huh 😭
Brotha has 6 monitors
devout forum
It takes actual schizo hoirs to pretend you can't immediately tell which is which if you're seeing it in person
Side by side it takes 2 seconds even with FALD to pick out the oled
sweet phoenix
I think you got your point across blackhole it's a lil far
sage sluice
Brotha has 6 monitors
I wish lol
devout forum
I think you got your point across blackhole it's a lil far
Gotcha, disengaging
frigid stag
It takes actual schizo hoirs to pretend you can't immediately tell which is whic...
Here’s something that might shock you. People have different perceptions
sweet phoenix
Both of yall
frigid stag
If you don’t think the difference is worth it, don’t buy it simple
sweet phoenix
Again
frigid stag
Don’t know why you’re shilling oled so hard ~~ on daddy’s money~~ 💀
sweet phoenix
Its enough
dense locust
Oled? IPS? Trash, micro led will come to the rescue one day
frigid stag
Oled? IPS? Trash, micro led will come to the rescue one day
When
sage sluice
Don’t know why you’re shilling oled so hard ~~ on daddy’s money~~ 💀
I think blackhole is too pro oled, but youre kinda on the opposite end
sweet phoenix
Don’t know why you’re shilling oled so hard ~~ on daddy’s money~~ 💀
So you didn't send another message, you instead edited your old one to be more insulting
sage sluice
Oled is amazing if you got cash
lone mango
Ima stick with ips forever
lone mango
Fr its not that deep
sage sluice
Im going to eat my foot
frigid stag
Anyway what should I get for dinner later
devout forum
egasseM
wise wigeon
devout forum
(It's a meme)
devout forum
BASED
sage sluice
Yippee
dense locust
How much?
dense locust
wise wigeon
Under of msrp for the model
sinful blade
Rather not say <:derpyBlob:800415354891403275>
So you’re donating it to charity
wise wigeon
Wdym
sage sluice
Im donating myself to charity
frigid stag
Recall them saying about 1k
So 5080 msrp
sage sluice
So 5080 msrp
Yurp
frigid stag
My charity
“Roombas pc”
Start a go fund me for it 🗿
I’m sure there’s rich pc gamers who sympathise
wise wigeon
I mean if I can snag a 70 xt for sub 800 sub 750
sage sluice
Guys come support my go fund me that definitely wont be going towards an occulus quest 3
frigid stag
I’m not one of them btw though
wise wigeon
Or a similar 70ti
sinful blade
Start a go fund me for it 🗿
Nah, the only gofundme I have rn is for my wife’s van ramp repair. No where near where we need to be though:/
frigid stag
I’m too broke to donate a xtx
wise wigeon
The xtx is just not a great deal
frigid stag
Nah, the only gofundme I have rn is for my wife’s van ramp repair. No where near...
Ah
sinful blade
We got like $800 left to raise for it
sinful blade
It is $900
frigid stag
oh
sinful blade
frigid stag
I mean you could flip some pc parts here and there to try and cover the diff
Or flip pcs
Mr Roomba prebuilts ™️
sage sluice
The real go fund me is the friends we made along the way
sinful blade
I’ve considered flipping mine, but she won’t let me cuz she wants to be able to play together
sage sluice
Yeah my girlfriend said the same thing (she lives in my head)
wise wigeon
But uh yeah it’s still a good gpu, better to have one than not have a gpu
It’s a matter of if I can get a 70ti or 70xt at a good price
If so, someone gets a discounted Amazon gpu
lone mango
Another panel argument 
wise wigeon
If not then I’ll still have a gpu
frigid stag
It’s not about it it’s just that it happens to be about monitors
frigid stag
Ig I’ll share it else where :(
lone mango
sinful blade
Talk about the recent cheese developments
frigid stag
It’s not one of those arguing starting ones
dense locust
I don’t believe you a wholesome Reddit post doesn’t exist
sinful blade
https://youtu.be/PrpJEM76Z2Y?si=L6KvnWQkdsX7W9Ht
Real
frigid stag
I don’t believe you a wholesome Reddit post doesn’t exist
It’s very rare I know
frigid stag
https://youtu.be/PrpJEM76Z2Y?si=L6KvnWQkdsX7W9Ht
I thought that was 50$ gpu for a second
rancid juniper
lol
frigid stag
Thought he found a cheap 3050 or something lol
That psu could resell for pretty good money tbh
dense locust
It’s very rare I know
I’m sure someone started a 100 message argument somewhere in the comments
frigid stag
Hx850 is nice
sinful blade
I’m sure someone started a 100 message argument somewhere in the comments
It was me
frigid stag
I’m sure someone started a 100 message argument somewhere in the comments
Oh for sure
frigid stag
What kind
sinful blade
The best, provolone
opaque sedge
Lol this has to be a paid ad
This is why people support deepseek
frigid stag
They’ll come out with a paid version soon dw
opaque sedge
And then another company will undercut them
frigid stag
opaque sedge
Its going to become an AI food chain
sinful blade
frigid stag
opaque sedge
https://tenor.com/view/cheese-cheese-girl-just-a-girl-who-loves-cheese-i-love-ch...
I tried brie cheese recently
sinful blade
I tried brie cheese recently
Wack
opaque sedge
After having it with some jam and toast
sinful blade
Brie cheese is one of the worst tasting cheeses
opaque sedge
After having it with some jam and toast
I felt ashamed thinking abt my ancestors
My ancestors came up with this barely palatable hard cheese
With no flavor
And is known to degrade teeth
frigid stag
But why
opaque sedge
But these french mfers came up with with this decadent cheese
sinful blade
Colby Jack is good cheese
frigid stag
Maybe it’s good for throwing
opaque sedge
The hard cheese barely has any moisture which means it will last long
frigid stag
Maybe it’s good for throwing <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Good for self Defense
opaque sedge
The hard cheese barely has any moisture which means it will last long
The land in the country is very fertile even during winter cept a few rocky and mountainous terrain so there really isnt a need for heavy food preservation
Huh wait
dense locust
Oh for sure
Reddit be like: “Hey guys how to I install Linux I hate windows but I don’t want to use Mac”
Reddit comments: “you idiot, look at the countless convoluted tutorials made online. You better install (distribution) because it’s the best”
Then 100s of proceeding comments about why the distribution they listed actually sucks
opaque sedge
The land in the country is very fertile even during winter cept a few rocky and ...
I think the hard cheese might have come from this Rocky Mountainous terrain area
Yeah it makes sense now
opaque sedge
Colby Jack is good cheese
I’ve tried gouda in the past saw a big yellow looking slice with red skin in costco and immediately reminded me of the illustration of cheese i would see as a kid in tom and jerry and i grabbed it loved it
sinful blade
I’ve tried gouda in the past saw a big yellow looking slice with red skin in cos...
Gouda is only as good as what you pair it with
rancid juniper
reddit is obnoxious nerd central
opaque sedge
Gouda is only as good as what you pair it with
I paired it with toast once and rice next…
sinful blade
If you’re eating Gouda just straight up, you deserve hard poops
frigid stag
Basically “buy what you can afford and is worth it to you”
opaque sedge
1k def not half a grand and below tho
frigid stag
Instead of “you need x90 gpu or it’s obsolete”
sinful blade
Have you ever tried Vermont sharp white cheddar?
frigid stag
this OP gonna get decimated
~~ just like my replies after I said the same thing here~~
rancid juniper
😂
sinful blade
Goose
opaque sedge
Have you ever tried Vermont sharp white cheddar?
Nope i haven’t had much cheese in my life
frigid stag
I crossed it out on purpose for that
opaque sedge
Nope i haven’t had much cheese in my life
Most of the house’s grocery hauls are staples only so rarely get to try anything new
frigid stag
My feed is full of oled stuff now after looking something up about it
dense locust
We all know the best screen technology anyways
Reflective displays
frigid stag
Not my fault entirely
sinful blade
We all know the best screen technology anyways
Reflective displays
Nah nah nah
the best display, is tubes
frigid stag
Alternative argument glossy vs matte 🤔🤔
rancid juniper
actually its VA panels, all of you are wrong
wise wigeon
Is it usually for the pcie x16 slot to leave marks on the end tab of the pcie connector of the gpu?
rancid juniper
i know because im not biased
sinful blade
Gimme those cathode tube TVs to play with my 5090
rancid juniper
VA is just better
sinful blade
frigid stag
Real
opaque sedge
We all know the best screen technology anyways
Reflective displays
Reflect mah meat
frigid stag
Crt is goated truly
dense locust
Reflect mah meat
Technically what we see is all light that is reflected 🤓
rancid juniper
CRT > VA > Mid
sinful blade
opaque sedge
CRT > VA > Mid
He didn’t destroy computers
He destroyed his brains
And eyes seemingly
brittle lynx
is onedrive worth using? never used it before but I do sometimes need to move files between computers and I don't always have a usb with me
opaque sedge
is onedrive worth using? never used it before but I do sometimes need to move fi...
Deafguy?
That u
dense locust
Do you think it would be possible to make a thinner crt today?
I want someone to do it just to show off
sinful blade
Do you think it would be possible to make a thinner crt today?
It may
However, it’s CRT
opaque sedge
https://youtu.be/rJC5zva_ejs?feature=shared
Imagine people in the 90s seeing this
frigid stag
Do you think it would be possible to make a thinner crt today?
Slightly thinner sure
dense locust
It may
However, it’s CRT
But me latency
dense locust
Slightly thinner sure
frigid stag
Latency> fps
sinful blade
There are thin fit crts.
frigid stag
Speaking of gifs there’s a absolutely terrible gif when u search for flicker
Literally flashes the whole screen many times a second
opaque sedge
I’m now curious
frigid stag
I’m not posting it it might give someone an episode or something
opaque sedge
Cant find it
real zenith
yo
lone mango
real zenith
Everything turned on but my monitor won’t display my pc
How do i fix it or what can i check for
lone mango
Did you do anything prior to this
lone mango
Is the monitor off
frigid stag
Literally flashes the whole screen many times a second <:kekw:741678350791081994...
I regret even looking at it for a second. Made me a bit dizzy
lone mango
Ok lets see
frigid stag
Ye could be anything
real zenith
lone mango
Where is the hdmi or displayport
onyx merlin
yo
wise wigeon
Hmmm
onyx merlin
How is my favorite tech gang doing ?
wise wigeon
That gonna be ok?
wise wigeon
The scuff?
lone mango
How is my favorite tech gang doing ?
lone mango
The scuff?
Lol are you talking about directly below fcc at the edge
onyx merlin
decided it was time for a avatar upgrade
wise wigeon
I assume it’s ok because the gold contacts are important
onyx merlin
and I like this new image alot
lone mango
I assume it’s ok because the gold contacts are important
Yeah just cosmetic
lone mango
They gave you another return
wise wigeon
Please no
lone mango
frigid stag
Bro needs a bigger desk
lone mango
It should come with a cover
lone mango
Bro needs a bigger desk
Went dark again 
frigid stag
💀 what did
lone mango
He sent another pic and dipped
frigid stag
Oh
wise wigeon
Looked at another unboxing looks like it just don’t come with one, how odd
frigid stag
Spends 1k on pc
Can’t spend 30 on a IKEA table
dusk knot
@pine leaf help I've been kidnapped. They want 2 5080s and 3 5090s for my release..send them pronto 💀
dense locust
<@1051221218600177774> help I've been kidnapped. They want 2 5080s and 3 5090s ...
They want the whole supply of 5090s? Those monsters
wise wigeon
Huh are pcie connectors usually tapered at the end? I’ve never noticed
dusk knot
They want the whole supply of 5090s? Those monsters
Either that or you'll never see me again
Brazil was a mistake
Jk. I love it here...
The heat is the only problem
frigid stag
What the hell felicia williams
Bye Felicia
dense locust
The heat is the only problem
Good ac is legally required in my state
craggy shoal
I should build a proper Proxmox server
wise wigeon
Can’t tell if these fans got stickers
real zenith
Are there any codes on the motherboard
There’s lights yeah but it’s black i’m guessing i gotta update bios on it what yall think
what other things should i check for
I had to leave imma be back in like an jour and a half so i need ideas
for when i come back
dusk knot
In Brazil?
Ye
frigid stag
There’s lights yeah but it’s black i’m guessing i gotta update bios on it what y...
Look at the error code it’s showing
real zenith
Look at the error code it’s showing
it’s not showing ancode
it’s just black
this is all it was showing and my monitor is on btw
frigid stag
it’s just black
The motherboard not the monitor
dense locust
dense locust
They were prepared for this
real zenith
The motherboard not the monitor
Nah the motherboard good my fans r moving
like my cpu cooler moving dosent that mean it’s good even my other fans too
and my gpu is moving too
But i could re check
wise wigeon
Is it plugged in your motherboard?
Looks like the vga is above the audio ports
Mmm beautiful
real zenith
Is it plugged in your motherboard?
i tried both motherboard and gpu and nun
did i break it ??
i’m rlly worried i wasted all my money on it 😭🙏🏽
wise wigeon
Well you make sure you turned the psu on?
sweet phoenix
Good part is if smthn doesn't work you got return windows on everything
And warranties
real zenith
That’s my gpu
sweet phoenix
Gpu has a 30 day warranty from the ebay seller and everything else would have a few years of warranty
real zenith
umm ok ok got u
wise wigeon
Any lights up on the motherboard?
sweet phoenix
Thats a worse case scenario tho
real zenith
So i don’t gotta worry
sweet phoenix
Did u update bios alr?
real zenith
Thats a worse case scenario tho
yeah i mean i did everything carefully nah im getting a haircut rn ill be back by like 6 pm est
sweet phoenix
Ah alr
real zenith
Hopefully it’s the bios i’m praying
sweet phoenix
Thats likely all it is imo
Z790s came out with 13th gen and when they bundle parts they're likely getting rid of old/stagnant stock
So the mobo prolly just has an older bios version
icy ore
perty
dusk knot
Wow…Brazilian Netflix has better movies
real zenith
Thats likely all it is imo
rlly ok imma download it to my usb and imma have to get a usb wit windows on it again rib
rih?
pseudo patrol
Wow…Brazilian Netflix has better movies
its crazy how much different shows and movies in multiple countries you'd fall in love with watching
has newer & various concepts like a breath of fresh air
sweet phoenix
rlly ok imma download it to my usb and imma have to get a usb wit windows on it ...
Yeah
Yk how to install windows from their website right?
frigid stag
Nah the motherboard good my fans r moving
It should show a error code for why it’s not turning on
frigid stag
Just look up a video on how to setup a pc
real zenith
It should show a error code for why it’s not turning on
it’s not bacca said it’s a bios thing
sage sluice
I guess thats one less rgb thing in my pc
real zenith
maybe
frigid stag
it’s not bacca said it’s a bios thing
Did it work?
real zenith
Did it work?
imma try it in an hour im getting a cut rnn
hopefully it is i’m super nervous ngl
dusk knot
has newer & various concepts like a breath of fresh air
Yeah…..and plus we’re getting more the popular movies that you have to rent in the USA. For the most part, I did not like the American selection
sweet phoenix
Nope😭🙏🏽
windows media creation tool
just google that and you can download windows to the USB drive again
dusk knot
https://youtu.be/0pZg-TpYiqU?si=lVE6-qt5gN5TXB3d
I posted this already
dusk knot
But Niktek is great
wise wigeon
Wish it didn’t cover the rgb bar but
Honestly the cables are on the stiff side and going from above woulda been annoying
sage sluice
I was in my pc to redo cable management from when i first built this system
sage sluice
Having 0 rgb is like having a black and white monitor these days
I can live without it, just unfortunate considering it affects resale value lol
wise wigeon
I guess thats one less rgb thing in my pc <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Didn’t do the light wiggle out?
sage sluice
Didn’t do the light wiggle out?
I was actually pulling cords from the back and it tugged on it
frigid stag
I can live without it, just unfortunate considering it affects resale value lol
You sell your old parts?
frigid stag
Oh ok
dusk knot
What a drag at my hotel....
sage sluice
Either sell it or turn it into a server or something
frigid stag
When the ping is higher than the internet speed
wise wigeon
You sell your old parts?
Ikr mine just go into retirement as parts for other builds
frigid stag
Ikr mine just go into retirement as parts for other builds
Real
wise wigeon
Huh
Why is it like that
Because it’s def making contact
And it’s perfectly level
Looks straight to me
wise wigeon
How odd is this just how it looks?
sage sluice
To me the part that says radeon looks almost bent
You should take a level to different parts of it
wise wigeon
Still in the lines but not quite as level near the socket
wise wigeon
I mean it doesn’t look like it’s sagging
sage sluice
I didn't think so either from those pics
wise wigeon
Lemme loosen the screws and see if I can line it up more
Better but it still feels a lil off
These micro adjustments are real
Hmm
I swapped from one xtx to another
I should probably reinstall driver before a test
But I’m also just going to reinstall windows anyway
onyx merlin
nocturne merlin
2x16 3600 mhz 18-22-22-42 ram or 2x16 3200 mhz 16-18-18-36 ram for 5600x
sweet phoenix
3600
wise wigeon
ok its benchmark time
And maybe I’ll hold off on the reinstall of windows
I have played a game in like 2 weeks 
@mortal grail seems Ive lucked out again
This one also has click whine
opaque sedge
wise wigeon
lol I didn’t see it first
What an embarrassing burnin
ok bench run with new xtx
maybe its capcom games in general that are wonky
sage sluice
Cant even run minecraft ✋
wise wigeon
I just launched worls and it like jumped to 90% and 94c just getting into the game
like nothing rendered
just the logos
sage sluice
I lost barely any performance in worlds changing from highest settings to lowest
It also took me 25 minutes to even load into the benchmark demo
I think worlds is just f#####
wise wigeon
I lost barely any performance in worlds changing from highest settings to lowest
i just mean the weird spikes in util
sweet phoenix
This one also has click whine
Could it be your psu?
sage sluice
I should honestly figure out what in my system whines
wise wigeon
Could it be your psu?
sounds pretty similar to my brothers
sweet phoenix
Could whine can sound very similar between diff parts
wise wigeon
its really too close togethter to tell
sweet phoenix
Could you put the gpu in your brother's system?
wise wigeon
he only has a 750 i rather not
wise wigeon
but he has a similar clicking whine at max perf
on his 6800
honestly
this one is not as bad rn
might be because im in the gathering hub
Really could be either
It’s quoted compared to the other xtx though
Quiter*
Quieter *
wise wigeon
Maybe the standing desk was a good investment
Standing it’s much less noticeable because I’m far away
If it is gpu whine
Psu*
opaque sedge
70c idle vram
Bro doesn’t have hynix vram bro has hyheat vram
wise wigeon
Oh woe is me that Felix gaslit me into staying with the rm850x
sage sluice
Bro doesn’t have hynix vram bro has hyheat vram
I mean its at zero gpu fan usage but still
Feels a bit much
lavish stag
Does anyone know a budget motherboard like this (one that may fit my case)? My motherboard broke because i dont think it was compatible with the nova mesh tg case since i could only fit in half the standoffs which caused it to bend. Im using wtf btw
sage sluice
For idle especially
wise wigeon
hmm my monitor has a headphone jack but when i plug it in all i hear is static
opaque sedge
hmm my monitor has a headphone jack but when i plug it in all i hear is static
Gotta choose the monitor as the sound output
lavish stag
Thats because the dac codec on your motherboard sucks
lavish stag
it just also has the static
Its called a noise floor. You can fix it by buying a dongle
opaque sedge
it just also has the static
Hmm if u have an apple usb c dongle u can just use that onto a usbc port
lavish stag
Yea
rough zinc
Oh woe is me that Felix gaslit me into staying with the rm850x
Damn first time I've seen an RMx psu with coil whine, all 3 of mine had 0
opaque sedge
Hmm if u have an apple usb c dongle u can just use that onto a usbc port
I lost mine sadly
Gonna order anotha one tho
lavish stag
Apple dongle or any cx31993 dongle that seems ligit is a great deal and all u need
wise wigeon
Damn first time I've seen an RMx psu with coil whine, all 3 of mine had 0
if it is the psu
thats still the question
rough zinc
Out of curiosity, have you tried other outlets in the house?
rough zinc
I have one outlet in my house that causes it but none of the others do
wise wigeon
old pc had different components but on the the same outlet and no issues
similar power draws really
lavish stag
I have an atx case i believe
sinful blade
That motherboard should be fine.
wise wigeon
welp wanted to use the earbuds i had because with a standing desk I don't have the 3.5 extension long enough
wise wigeon
Does anyone know a budget motherboard like this (one that may fit my case)? My m...
did you align it correctly?
because standoffs are pretty standardized
lavish stag
Nvm, i have an matx case but my motherboard is also matx
I wonder why now
It was my first pc build, maybe i missed some standoffs
wise wigeon
It was my first pc build, maybe i missed some standoffs
well it should have come preinstalled
lavish stag
Anywho, any reccomendations for a replacement mobo? Under 120
wise wigeon
usually there is an alignment standoff that is slightly different than others
lavish stag
I dont remember if they were pre-installed tbh
wise wigeon
if you just haphazardly screwed in without aligning that might have caused the bend
because its slightly raised compared to the rest
my current case oddly enough had 2 alignement standoffs preinstalled and it messed up the alignment a lot til i noticed
then i went and removed it and replaced it with a regular standoff
lavish stag
Do they have to be replaced? Also do motherboards provide stand offs?
wise wigeon
this green one is usually the alignment one
i just drew the other lines to give an idea of the general matx fit
because this is a fullatx case
wise wigeon
Do they have to be replaced? Also do motherboards provide stand offs?
case might have extras if they arent already installed
lavish stag
Alright
lavish stag
this green one is usually the alignment one
Thanks
wise wigeon
but just look at your standoffs
is there more than one that is raised?
@lavish stag
this was the motherboard right?
wise wigeon
ah
well they should figure out any issues really
im just trying to make guesses based off the issue you told me why it might have bent
wise wigeon
about the alignment standoff causing a bend or something else
lavish stag
They just simply stated missing standoffs and screws
wise wigeon
kinda vague but oh well
is this a prebuilt or you build it?
as for a new motherboard there are a lot under 120
idk which ones are particularly good
last intel pc i did was lga1200
lavish stag
One i built myself
I just neef one that works with wifi xd
Doesnt seem like there are many wifi mobos
lavish stag
Thanks
wise wigeon
this one seems better built than the other
wise wigeon
ah
wise wigeon
i mean if the old mobo was b660 i assume its a lower end cpu
frigid stag
Same price as the other one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P3GhP6/gigabyte-z790-s-wifi-ddr4-rev-10-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-s-wifi-ddr4-rev-10
wise wigeon
wonder why that didnt show up on my end
wraith fern
twitter is nuts rn
the third one?
lavish stag
Wosh thats a good deal
wise wigeon
btw are you sure you have a matx case?
hmm looks like bitfenix makes a matx and atx variant of the nova mesg
lavish stag
Yes, my matx motherboard barely fits
Ahh
Lemme check
Ill confirm with microcenter
wise wigeon
It was my first pc build, maybe i missed some standoffs
when i looked this up it said atx
lavish stag
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPRYcf/asrock-z790m-pg-lightningd4-micro-atx-lg...
No wifi : (
wise wigeon
but if it barely fits
would be matx
hmmm
ima be real the other sub 120 wifi booard does not look good to me
lavish stag
Does "not look good" translate to unreliable?
rancid juniper
the third one?
lol dunno what its about
sweet phoenix
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK582LX5?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
This is a great mobo
wary orchid
why is the 4060 so bad?
sweet phoenix
Bad performance at its price
wise wigeon
This is a great mobo
ikr but he needs ddr4
sweet phoenix
128 bit bus which affects performance
frigid stag
why is the 4060 so bad?
Bad performance, bad price, better options for same price
sweet phoenix
ikr but he needs ddr4
Oof. H670m pro rs or b660m pro rs with a wifi adapter
wise wigeon
Oof. H670m pro rs or b660m pro rs with a wifi adapter
yeah i considered that
sweet phoenix
At least under $120 anyways
lavish stag
like its just bare minimum really
Yeah tbh idm
rancid juniper
why is the 4060 so bad?
for the price it offers not so great performance followed by weak amount of vram
frigid stag
^
lavish stag
I can spend a little more to 150 if there are options
wise wigeon
I can spend a little more to 150 if there are options
well there are ok ones without wifi and you can just get a wifi adapter
frigid stag
Your case is matx right?
sweet phoenix
Wrong person
wise wigeon
like 30 bucks or less
frigid stag
Yeah it’s just a pcie card
rancid juniper
how much u going to pay for gpu?
lavish stag
Thats not bad
wise wigeon
you'd just install it into one of these
sweet phoenix
Did you alr buy the cpu or smthn?
frigid stag
His board broke
wise wigeon
Did you alr buy the cpu or smthn?
mobo bent
sweet phoenix
Aah
lavish stag
you'd just install it into one of these
Whats that?
sweet phoenix
I mean could just steal the wifi chip off of that one
frigid stag
~~ could try to fix it but ~~
lavish stag
I mean could just steal the wifi chip off of that one
Fr lol?
sweet phoenix
It's likely got an m.2 wifi card
lavish stag
wise wigeon
I mean could just steal the wifi chip off of that one
iff it has the available slot and cables yeah
rancid juniper
sweet phoenix
Wifi card is right in there, it might be soldered tho
wise wigeon
looks soldered
wise wigeon
plus the pro rs doesnt have an io slot for antennae
lavish stag
Im down with the wifi adaptor method if i can get a better deal
I can just use bluetooth teethering for wifi temporarily lol
lavish stag
Okay
lavish stag
No i dont
wise wigeon
I can just use bluetooth teethering for wifi temporarily lol
bluetooth is coming from your wifi card
sweet phoenix
lavish stag
Nvm yes ddr4 thx
wise wigeon
Otherwise
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NMWJ7P/gigabyte-b760m-gaming-plus-wi...
yeah that ones like just 140 yeah?
lavish stag
bluetooth is coming from your wifi card
Oh shi
lavish stag
I can plug in a cable and can share wifi i believe
worn night
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPRYcf/asrock-z790m-pg-lightningd4-micro-atx-lg...
there’s no way that thing is a z790
frigid stag
Can run 14700kf or whatever later on
wise wigeon
I can plug in a cable and can share wifi i believe
usb tehtering if you have an android yes
lavish stag
Yes
frigid stag
there’s no way that thing is a z790
That’s the chipset
worn night
That’s the chipset
ik usually it’s a high end looking motherboard that has it
frigid stag
Matx boards aren’t usually the best built
hoary zodiac
I disagree
worn night
Except those ugly msi pros
lavish stag
So should i get z790
hoary zodiac
they're generally built well enough
worn night
Matx boards aren’t usually the best built
They are actually
hoary zodiac
especially these days
sweet phoenix
Cough cough b650-s wifi
lavish stag
It can do the wifi card thing right
hoary zodiac
back in 2017 maybe you can make a case
frigid stag
I didn’t say they were unusable
hoary zodiac
I don't think anyone is implying that
wise wigeon
It can do the wifi card thing right
yes
worn night
It can do the wifi card thing right
If you want it built in, just find any motherboard that has it built in or just buy a WiFi card, they work with any motherboard
wise wigeon
as long as your gpu aint an absolute chonker
lavish stag
6650xt
wise wigeon
but even then you would be able to slap it into the other x16
worn night
Yup
worn night
It ain’t even x16
hoary zodiac
but even then you would be able to slap it into the other x16
depends
frigid stag
It ain’t even x16
It doesn’t need to be
hoary zodiac
depends on the pcie version of both the card and motherboard tbh
wise wigeon
It ain’t even x16
it is
worn night
It doesn’t need to be
I know, WiFi cards are like x1 or 4 or whatever
hoary zodiac
gen 4 x8 is generally fine if both the gpu and motherboard can run at gen 4 x8
lavish stag
So i can also buy a wifi card externally. Do i need to connect the wifi card to the motherboard via any way?
wise wigeon
It ain’t even x16
wise wigeon
it's 3.0 x16 and not 4.0 x8?
it has a 4.0 x16 and a 3.0 x16
worn night
If you look at the pins in the slot, unless it’s highest end, it’s x8
proud jackal
frigid stag
Aren’t z790s pcie 5 🤔
worn night
So i can also buy a wifi card externally. Do i need to connect the wifi card to ...
Nooo, it just sits next to the pc and feeds it WiFi…
sweet phoenix
Some
sweet phoenix
Replying to goose
lavish stag
Nooo, it just sits next to the pc and feeds it WiFi…
So like a usb type a connection to the side?
wise wigeon
Aren’t z790s pcie 5 🤔
i dont think its a req
sweet phoenix
Otherwise
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NMWJ7P/gigabyte-b760m-gaming-plus-wi...
This gives you just as much of an upgrade path as the z790, if you don't plan to cpu overclock just save yourself the trouble and get the built in wifi card
worn night
So like a usb type a connection to the side?
No that was a joke
lavish stag
..
frigid stag
Probably better vrm’s on the asrock z790 but it’s up to you
wise wigeon
Probably better vrm’s on the asrock z790 but it’s up to you
to be fair its a 12400f
if they do plan on upgrading down the line I wouldn't be sticking to lga1700
frigid stag
I mean if he wants to upgrade later on
sweet phoenix
Probably better vrm’s on the asrock z790 but it’s up to you
Oh its a much bigger difference than I thought
10+1+1 vs 6+1+1
frigid stag
~~ could also do usb wifi adapter ~~
sweet phoenix
No.
frigid stag
But it might be less reliable
sweet phoenix
Usb adapters are ass
worn night
~~ could also do usb wifi adapter ~~
don’t confuse the poor newb
hoary zodiac
especially with usb overhead
frigid stag
Ye that’s why I crossed it out it’s kinda cursed
sweet phoenix
A usb adapter is decent to use together with an Internal card
wise wigeon
Oh its a much bigger difference than I thought
if only they had ddr5
hoary zodiac
I mean
wise wigeon
the PG riptide i had posted earlier is like hella overbuilt for a 120 dollar board
wise wigeon
they have ddr4 ram
frigid stag
Board broke
hoary zodiac
no point overspending on a board
frigid stag
That z790 costs the same
wise wigeon
otherwise this one all the way for $120 if they had ddr5 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WbyH99/asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-wifi-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pg-riptide-wifi
sweet phoenix
frigid stag
And has better vrms and power deliver
wise wigeon
that is such a nice board for the price
sweet phoenix
Between wifi card cost you might as well go ddr5
frigid stag
It’s like the cheapest z790 which is matx
sweet phoenix
And just add a second stick of the same ram when you can
hoary zodiac
It’s like the cheapest z790 which is matx
you also have to factor in the cost of a wifi card
frigid stag
Like 30 bucks
sweet phoenix
A 16gb stick of ddr5 is $40
wise wigeon
i mean how finnicky is ddr5 with intel
sweet phoenix
Id just go riptide wifi with ddr5
lavish stag
So wifi card just plugs into pcie slot and im set?
sweet phoenix
$10 extra for faster ram while you're already swapping mobo
hoary zodiac
Id just go riptide wifi with ddr5
agreed
wise wigeon
Id just go riptide wifi with ddr5
14+1+1 on a 120 board
frigid stag
i mean how finnicky is ddr5 with intel
Xoc guys hate it
hoary zodiac
you'd get a lot more performance
frigid stag
Asoos lagging behind
lavish stag
Im pretty confused on this convo, whats the consesus
sweet phoenix
Basically
hoary zodiac
otherwise this one all the way for $120 if they had ddr5 https://pcpartpicker.co...
this board
sweet phoenix
Z790+wifi card is $150
hoary zodiac
- ddr5
sweet phoenix
B760m ddr5 with 16gb ddr5 is $160
hoary zodiac
you get a way better performance /$
sweet phoenix
And you can add a second stick of the same ram later
frigid stag
B760m ddr5 with 16gb ddr5 is $160
Does it have wifi though
sweet phoenix
Then you can swap cpu later to a 13600k/14600k
wise wigeon
Does it have wifi though
yes
sweet phoenix
Yes
frigid stag
Ok then
sweet phoenix
hoary zodiac
Then you can swap cpu later to a 13600k/14600k
and plus you get the full performance of the cpu
wise wigeon
a killer 6e card in fact
lavish stag
Z790+wifi card is $150
I can keep my ddr4 ram?
sweet phoenix
With that option yes
frigid stag
I can keep my ddr4 ram?
Yes
hoary zodiac
but should you?
lavish stag
Ic
sweet phoenix
Id spend the $10 extra and just resell your ram
hoary zodiac
it's $10 more for better performance
lavish stag
Whats the reason to do ddr5
sweet phoenix
Id spend the $10 extra and just resell your ram
Ends up cheaper that way lol