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[devout forum]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna4-officially-presented-in-china-radeon-rx-9070-xt-priced-at-4999-rmb-599-rx-9070-at-4499-rmb-549
Allegedly

[proud jackal]

ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-ibong-hype-gif-24836073

[dusk knot]

😟

[devout forum]

I highly doubt it's gonna be this easy

[craggy shoal]

Mmm I want twinkies

[wise wigeon]

Shoulda seen the meltdown earlier

[wary fjord]

steam / rockstar launcher only ( if you bought it straight to rockstar )

epic: TBD

[devout forum]

okay 5090 used prices are out

[mortal grail]

I would be stunned if they had a different price for US

[dusk knot]

Great pricing

[mortal grail]

It is

Fingers crossed

[dusk knot]

600 dollars. Perfect

[mortal grail]

It would line up with the original predictions I was having

[wise wigeon]

Idk about perfect but better than inspected

Issue is AIBs and tariffs

[devout forum]

3415 euros for the Inno3d
3116 for FE

[mortal grail]

Yeah not perfect but solid

[craggy shoal]

Welcome back

[mortal grail]

TOMIEEEE

[devout forum]

I WISH it'll be that

I so desperately want to be wrong to be a doomer for once

[wise wigeon]

This also assumes you can get it anywhere near msrp

[mortal grail]

Yes believe this especially

[dusk knot]

Welcome back 🫡

[mortal grail]

If this price is real you WON'T get that for months

It'll be highly popular

[wise wigeon]

Plus like some of the stock won’t have tariffs applied

[dusk knot]

I didn’t even see her message until you mentioned it lol

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[wise wigeon]

But anything that came in within February will

[mortal grail]

Ikr so much red in chat now that I'm mod lmao

[dusk knot]

Yeah

We must demote you now

[mortal grail]

Pray they make it stick

We only got one step left

[wise wigeon]

Idk

[mortal grail]

Pray

Hope

[wise wigeon]

We’ll have to see third part perf and rt

[mortal grail]

Perf is just xtx

We've seen over a dozen leaks

[dusk knot]

Tbh.,the 9700xt is looking quite attractive. Sadly it won’t be much of an upgrade from my 3080ti

[mortal grail]

It's a literal xtx with less vram

It's gonna be good for 599

Really really good

[wise wigeon]

Well ideally with better rt

[devout forum]

Felix it's so depressing

[mortal grail]

Sadly about the same

[devout forum]

I can buy a NICE car for the same as a 5090

[mortal grail]

The big rt promise hasn't shown it's colours at all

[wise wigeon]

Plus like

[devout forum]

Why do PC stuff have to suck this bad rn?

[mortal grail]

Just buy smart dude

[dusk knot]

The 5090 is unaffordable even in our dreams

[wise wigeon]

If we have to see what nicer models are priced

[mortal grail]

Temper expectations

[mortal grail]

I could buy one but I'm not gonna

[devout forum]

At least I can get a 4080 used for a grand

[wise wigeon]

That’s not great

[devout forum]

and that's a legit top end GPU

[devout forum]

With 27% VAT?

[mortal grail]

He's in a bad spot

Lol

Prices there are amazing

[devout forum]

I'd argue that's not a bad value

[wise wigeon]

Ok that’s different

[dusk knot]

Ngreedai crossed the line…

[devout forum]

*she

:3

[mortal grail]

Yeah why should I spend like 80% more for 30% better

[mortal grail]

Oo

Wait why has this not come up before

Lol

[devout forum]

Issokay I don't actually give a crap about pronouns

[mortal grail]

I'll remember that mb mb

[devout forum]

and I tend to not talk about it cuz gender isn't the entirety of my identity lmao

[wise wigeon]

But yeah we just have to see how many msrp cards are available

[devout forum]

You're perfectly fine Felix

[dusk knot]

I sometimes have doubts there will be a 5080ti. I might have to get a 5080 and OC every ounce of power out of it….

[mortal grail]

Here's something ironic. I could buy a 5090, but instead ima buy the 9070 xt

[wise wigeon]

Because ima be real I’m feeling like the AIBs are gonna prioritize the expensive models

[dusk knot]

Exactly. Such a nasty business practice

[wise wigeon]

If a nitro plus is like 800 or 850

[devout forum]

I'd most definitely love to get an XT too

[wise wigeon]

Might just stick to the xtx if it’s like that

[dusk knot]

Hm

[devout forum]

though that will likely be similar in price to the used 4080 I mentioned

[wise wigeon]

If the rt is really that similar

[mortal grail]

It seems to be

[wise wigeon]

Because if a xt nitro plus is 800-850 vs a 1k nitro plus with 8 gb more vram

[devout forum]

So really it's a USED 4080 competing with a new 9070 XT

what a wacky time to live in

[dusk knot]

Used 4080s cost more

[wise wigeon]

I mean honestly

[dusk knot]

💀

[wise wigeon]

I’d get the 4080S

[devout forum]

it might be about the same price here

[mortal grail]

850 vs 850 yeah. That 8gb not worth more than $50 tho

[devout forum]

cuz EU MSRP is likely to be about 800-850 euros

[mortal grail]

Cos $700 7900xt exists

[dusk knot]

I only see 1200 USD or more for them

[mortal grail]

20gb

[devout forum]

which with our awfully weak currency would likely push it higher

[devout forum]

Hungarian used market
4080 starts at 400k HUF (~1k USD)

[dusk knot]

Oh

[mortal grail]

In a twist of irony hungary is cheaper lmao

[devout forum]

the 9070 XT would be new in box however, with a warranty and all that

[dusk knot]

That’s better than Florida!!!!

[devout forum]

It's kinda unreal to me as well

TBF

I do have a feeling why

[wise wigeon]

Warranty is like 2 years tops

[mortal grail]

No buyers

[devout forum]

My guess with these "absolute cheapest" cards

The people offering them for sale are likely to be evading VAT by buying the cards using a company they own

which is technically illegal

cuz then you can offer them "brand new unopened box with warranty" for ~15% less than the actual stores by paying 27% less

and pocket the difference

[dusk knot]

Crazy

[devout forum]

but yes

I wouldn't do anything wrong buying it

but they could easily be breaking the law doing it

still

[wise wigeon]

Anyway Amazon will have a 1month return period for the xtx so we shall see

[devout forum]

that used 4080 is extremely competitive for us

[wise wigeon]

Very

[devout forum]

when the 5080 starts at 4090 pricing

That has to mean something

[wise wigeon]

If the 70 xt has xtx RT that means the supers RT is just like miles ahead

[devout forum]

I'm fairly sure 9070 XT is better than XTX RT

[wise wigeon]

Ideally

Super is like 60-80 % faster in heavy rt games though

Plus we gotta see what fsr 4 ends up being like

[mortal grail]

Potential 599 vs 1000+ tho

And 1000 is a pipe dream

[wise wigeon]

Not for black hole

[mortal grail]

She said they start 1K there

[wise wigeon]

With 27% vat

[mortal grail]

Did I miss something lol

Oh right

Fair enough yeah

[wise wigeon]

Dlss4 is a known variable vs fsr4

[devout forum]

used 4080 is a grand
And I have a feeling 9070 XT will be around that point new

[wise wigeon]

Ideally it’s good but around 30 games at launch is also

[misty sparrow]

any money you spend is minor in the long run anyway

[mortal grail]

4080/S is basically where XTX rounds out

[wise wigeon]

So-so*

[mortal grail]

So 9070 XT being about there

It's still compelling

But I'll give it this

DLSS 4 is a big point

But moreso

NTC

NTC is far bigger

DLSS puny by comparison lmao

[wise wigeon]

It’s pretty damn good

[devout forum]

it's a genuine competition if the 9070 XT actually goes for 600 US MSRP

[mortal grail]

If AMD has an answer for both tho, then 600 is a great price

[devout forum]

potentially used prices could fall below it too

[wise wigeon]

That’s being a bit optimistic

[mortal grail]

Compared to NTC tho I'd consider it a very small positive

NTC fixes the vram problem

Like

Almost completely

[wise wigeon]

Yeah but we gotta we when it’s actually usable

[mortal grail]

To quote "Up to 96% less vram used on a 4090"

Objectively speaking THAT is a big deal

Cos instead of a minor FG improvement you just have straight better visual quality

[balmy solstice]

[devout forum]

Well then, so much for FIrefox being based

[wise wigeon]

Well dlss 4 is a pretty big difference from 3 but I get what you’re saying

Once they get it going and practical

It’s a massive leap

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah DLSS 4, but also more importantly reflex inpainting

Big things

But small in the scheme of things

[wise wigeon]

This is the real reason why Nvidia won’t end up like intel even with the stagnation

[mortal grail]

Being able to buy a 5060 and using NTC to drop 12gb to 4 would be amazing

But yeah it's a big question

[balmy solstice]

spicy

[mortal grail]

All that said though 599 is extremely compelling if true for US

[wise wigeon]

If

Idk why I feel like it’s 650

[mortal grail]

They've been asking the press prior to launch about what to price it

Which is...

Desperate lmao

[wise wigeon]

Literally as of this week yeah

[mortal grail]

But if this is their answer then great job

[balmy solstice]

wasn't amd supposed to implement something similar to the NTC

[mortal grail]

Considering it's a "5070Ti competitor" when those cards are unobtanium, good price

[mortal grail]

If they are then fantastic

[wise wigeon]

If these are obtainable

[devout forum]

wait what is NTC?

[mortal grail]

Ofc

[wise wigeon]

I would hope they have stock

[mortal grail]

Neural texture compression

[wise wigeon]

Considering the stockpile

[devout forum]

ah

[mortal grail]

It basically uses AI to rebuild textures

Resulting in less vram use

[balmy solstice]

amd's is called neural texture block

[gentle canyon]

8 HOURS TO RDNA4 DOOMSDAY

[mortal grail]

It's a REAL advantage

[mortal grail]

Already happened

[gentle canyon]

huh

[mortal grail]

CN reveal says 549 and 599

[gentle canyon]

no way

[mortal grail]

But US could still change

[devout forum]

which would unironically be good if true

[mortal grail]

We wait and see

[devout forum]

I still think it'll be higher

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-10678931350545522063

ill do anything amd

[devout forum]

But please make me wrong

[wise wigeon]

Because china doesnt have to pay for a tariff

[mortal grail]

I'll buy a 9070 XT if 599

Replace my 6900XT with it lol

[misty sparrow]

I'll buy it for tree fitty

[gentle canyon]

tree fitty five

[wise wigeon]

US does have the tariff and even if it’s 10% AIBs and retailers def didn’t increase by only 10%

[mortal grail]

I'm gonna enjoy when I see comments like

"It shoulda been 400!"

[gentle canyon]

ik

[mortal grail]

Yeah right

[gentle canyon]

like

if that 549 and 599 is true in us

thats insane

did not expect that from amd at all

[wise wigeon]

And Mr orange is suggesting another 10% on china’s products

[balmy solstice]

it shoulda been 350

[mortal grail]

Asrock is already moving operations out of upper asia

[gentle canyon]

radeon department might be locking in finally

except for the new naming

[wise wigeon]

Just keep you expectations low and you won’t be disappointed

[mortal grail]

Oh ofc

[wise wigeon]

Just pleasantly surprised when it’s ok

[mortal grail]

I'm expecting it to be as bad as 50 series rn

My expectations are low af

[gentle canyon]

^

[mortal grail]

But that price is hopeful lol

[gentle canyon]

this

[wise wigeon]

Because if it’s just a $100 diff in street price

[gentle canyon]

this is the first time ive been involved in the pc space to witness a full gpu product cycle and its been depressing

[wise wigeon]

And not that available still

[mortal grail]

50 series is by far the worst one I've seen

[gentle canyon]

yeah I couldn't believe it, every day there was something new

[mortal grail]

I missed turing but everyone tells me turing was better

[gentle canyon]

i heard 20 series was bad too

20 was turing right

[mortal grail]

Ye

20 series suffered cos 10 series was plentiful

[wise wigeon]

And just ok uplift

[mortal grail]

Not the whole time but coming off the back of pascal

Ye

It was not a wow moment like pascal

[velvet summit]

20 series was early adopter kinda jazz

As well

Their dlss feature was fresh out the oven

[wise wigeon]

Thing is dlss4 working for all Rtx cards is kinda paying off a bit

[velvet summit]

No games supported it pretty much

[mortal grail]

Dlss was kinda jank apparently too lol

[gentle canyon]

if i stay radeon which I plan to in the future what do you see being a worthwhile upgrade at this point

[velvet summit]

Yeah the first version sucked

[wise wigeon]

1.0 no good

[mortal grail]

9070 XT could be

[gentle canyon]

also congrats on mod ^

[mortal grail]

But it's sorta like

On the fringe

6950 is solid

[gentle canyon]

gotta wait to see US yeaj

[misty sparrow]

oh i didnt even notice felix was mod

[mortal grail]

Ye

[misty sparrow]

it feels like nothing really changed

[gentle canyon]

oh yeah absolutely

[wise wigeon]

Unlike you I currently have no gpu anymore

[mortal grail]

It's something I was offered like a year ago and didn't take it up til now lol

But thanks, I figured it'd help

[wise wigeon]

Geez the 9800x3d gets warm unpacking

[balmy solstice]

give it a lil kiss

make sure it wakes up nicely

[mortal grail]

I basically just have a vacuum now for bots

An ugly stick

Lmao

[misty sparrow]

cool

i thought you would go all 1984 if you ever did get moderator

[gentle canyon]

i am still going to wake up for the US reveal of rdna4

[gentle canyon]

lmao

[mortal grail]

Nah I keep that part of me in mind when I have the power

[wise wigeon]

When is the review

Reveal*

[mortal grail]

No clue tbh lmao

[wise wigeon]

Might listen on the way to my exam

Felix

[balmy solstice]

"gimme your wallet and I'll reveal it all to you" - amd

[wise wigeon]

There was a decent wegg bundle earlier

[mortal grail]

8 hours away I think

Define decent

Lol

[wise wigeon]

Msrp 5080 with a hx1000i

[gentle canyon]

7 1/2 hours

[wise wigeon]

Or a rm850e

[mortal grail]

1200?

[gentle canyon]

12:30 am for me

[mortal grail]

1100?

[wise wigeon]

For the ram

Rm*

[mortal grail]

That would've been good tbh

[wise wigeon]

Like 1240 for the hx

[mortal grail]

Ew

Lol

1200 was high

1240 no way

[wise wigeon]

Isn’t the hx100i like 200+?

[mortal grail]

It's not worth 240

[wise wigeon]

It’s like 260 rn

[mortal grail]

Even with 5080 offset tariff price that doesn't beat another option

[gentle canyon]

ive never seen another admin besides naht

[balmy solstice]

am actually good priced psu, didn't know

[balmy solstice]

maybe a promotion

[mortal grail]

Think of it like an RMx that's mildly better with an annoying button

It's not worth 260

[wise wigeon]

I mean I assume it was the new rme

[mortal grail]

I'd pay 160

Max

Lol

[wise wigeon]

So has the nice new cables

[mortal grail]

RMe with one for 1100 would've been solid

850W no problem

Absolutely solid

[wise wigeon]

Also has the new colored tip 12v2x6

[mortal grail]

Ye

[wise wigeon]

Only forsaking me

Pny*

[balmy solstice]

pny will be our salvation

trust

🐎

[velvet summit]

Horse the Petah is here

[wise wigeon]

Anyway back to study

[balmy solstice]

trust the pony

[lone mango]

Yeah this sweeps turing by miles

[rancid juniper]

I can wait 😭

[lone mango]

Tomie back

Just in time for new amd

[balmy solstice]

too late, the wait is OVER 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fresh nova]

Oh hell nahhh

wut is that

[balmy solstice]

hellspawn

burn it

[mortal grail]

Damn

[lone mango]

I still think xt will be 650 becuase of tariffs

That 600 is the chinese price converted to usd

[balmy solstice]

don't you believe tho

[velvet summit]

Better aging? You're gonna be 90 by tomorrow

[balmy solstice]

trust it'll be $600 for 5 minutes

[fresh nova]

Exactly let me blast my face with radiation

Smart

[lone mango]

Lil dude
https://yestonstore.com/products/yeston-geforce-rtx-4060-8g-128bit-gddr6-gaming-graphics-card

[mortal grail]

Bear

[worn wave]

Well, radiation is only bad depending on the wavelength

I believe (certain wavelengths) red light is actually proven to help with hair loss prevention. Not sure about using it on your face though

[balmy solstice]

need me some good gamma rays for my hair

make my skin look nice and green

[storm narwhal]

Hit me with that xray radiation bro

[chrome mirage]

Think I figured out why my coworkers PlayStation keeps shutting off

He said he already cleaned the dust out

[lone mango]

What the hell

Dust grater

[fresh timber]

i wanna make my gf a tiny itx build with that now lmfaoo

[fresh timber]

the most he did was proably dust the outside vents thning its enough

[lone mango]

There is a mini 4070 made by a company called zephyr

Hahahaha ok

[chrome mirage]

Probably. I was worried I'd have to replace the liquid metal and when I saw that there was dust I had a sigh of relief.

[lone mango]

[proud jackal]

fans are so much quieter now that im doing fan curve based on water temp

[fresh timber]

In the Minecraft movie trailer Steve has 3 Elytra but never discovered the nether???

[worn wave]

Did you even watch it?

[fresh timber]

Yeah??

How do you get to the end with out the nether

You can’t unless super good rng and the portal spawns with all 9 eyes

[worn wave]

He opens a nether portal 33 seconds into the trailer

[fresh timber]

Yeah

I wanna know if his ass even went to the end to get the elytra

[chrome mirage]

My fans were quieter after I set my fan speed to 0

[fresh timber]

I doubt he did

[worn wave]

I mean it's just a trailer

[pseudo raven]

how will amd gpus snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this time

[wise wigeon]

i'm curious

well having bad stock would help

[gentle canyon]

theyve had since atleast january to have stock

plus only two models to stock currently

and no reference card so its all up to the aibs

[wise wigeon]

so it would look worse if they did have bad stock

[wise wigeon]

didn't stop 6800/6800xt from paperlaunch

[nocturne flicker]

Radeon team would have to be asleep at the wheel to do that. Surelythey'd never do something stupid like that right

[wise wigeon]

i know i've been saying 2 months but its been more like 1.5

reminder that AMD also had about a month between the 3080 launch and 6800xt

so its not completely out of question for stock to still be bad

and that was back when nvidia was on samsung

now both 50 series and rdn4 are on tsmc 4np

any number of things can go wrong

I mean i don't think we were expecting missing rops on 50 series but here we are

like people are very critical of nvidia but if amd starts having similar failings people will be extra critical

[chrome mirage]

Put some fresh liquid metal on this poor PS5 that was overheating and had oxidized liquid metal on its apu

[wise wigeon]

especially on the software side because people arleady have that perception

[wise wigeon]

man i havent turned mine on in like a year

its just been sitting collecting dust

[chrome mirage]

This one isn't mine. My coworker said his was shutting off and the local repair shop wanted him to buy a membership

[wise wigeon]

ik

i saw the dust

at least he aint a smoker yeah?

[chrome mirage]

Even the dust on the outside of it was bad

[chrome mirage]

Why do you think the dust had a brown tint to it

[wise wigeon]

i saw it was mostly gray i guess

personally i hever have dust get to that point

[chrome mirage]

Actually I think he was vaping near it because the dust smells sweet and is sticky

[wise wigeon]

yucky

not smoke bad though

hmm high likelihood my gpu comes in today not that I can do anything about it

[chrome mirage]

I know. The last PC I repaired was for a guy who smokes weed while gaming

[wise wigeon]

got an exam and group project too grind out

[wise wigeon]

bruh my dad bought my brother a decent used car

but the issue

is it smells like a skunk in there

and the smell is so hard to get out

it was like the previous owner was using it as a hotbox for a decade

[chrome mirage]

My room stunk for weeks after working on that computer

Couldn't imagine driving a car that permanently smelled like that

Although I did drive a car that smelled like my dad's farts every time you turned on the drivers seat warmer.

[wise wigeon]

wonder why

dad needs to cut it with the beans

[chrome mirage]

Yep

[wise wigeon]

man i gotta get back to studying

tadaloo

[chrome mirage]

And I have to try monster hunter for a few minutes before I go to sleep

[wise wigeon]

ugh i wanna so bad

but outside of not having a gpu

gotta friggin study

[hoary zodiac]

Such is life

[devout forum]

It'd basically kill Radeon to screw this up

[devout forum]

I thought that wasn't supposed to happen
LM oxidizing that is

[still sun]

Companies usually act in their own interests anyway tbh

[elfin mural]

i don't think radeon is gonna die tbh

they can't die

the cpu market share in enthusiast market is huge

amd has that edge

[hoary zodiac]

Radeez nuts

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-ooo-cat-shocked-funny-gif-14366308

[hoary zodiac]

Inflation

[opaque sedge]

Duck it needs balanced level upscaling for 60 fps on high settings in the desert area on a mfing 4070super

https://youtu.be/h_zXDS8Ci_8?si=bxqyL3VhIUGlsJF0

So cooked man

Can’t believe the fanboys are defending this crap

“Its beta an old build they’re gonna change its for release” blah blah blah blah

[gentle canyon]

10 mins to doomsday https://www.youtube.com/live/GZfFPI8LJrc?si=obqUP8hdW0hyovd3

[balmy solstice]

doomsday can't even revive and adapt to ts

[gentle canyon]

my final guess for US is 549 and 649

and with only a few aib cards at msrp

no way with tariffs do prices not go up

[balmy solstice]

I hope you're wrong

for your sake

[gentle canyon]

i hope so as well lol

ideally i hope they are the same as the china msrp

[balmy solstice]

might have to put my hours spent in dig to China to good use

coolmathgames solving real world problems

[gentle canyon]

honestly my biggest hope is that the reference cards exist

these

felix said they were AI generated and im hoping not lmao

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJjnbcHEqY8

[exotic ingot]

$550 and $600

[elfin mural]

the reveal soon

[elfin mural]

ah yes

classic amd move

lower msrp at last minute

[exotic ingot]

we'll see what is announced, but probably a safe bet

[gentle canyon]

YES

okay the 549 isnt great but

better than I expected

[elfin mural]

i saw leaks at 699

for the xt

but tbh i wanna see street prices of what is available

it better not cost 1k

[devout forum]

Is it already said what it is?

[elfin mural]

im eagerly watching the launch event

[devout forum]

I'm unable to watch along

[elfin mural]

nope

it hasn't

im watching along rn

[devout forum]

JUST finished wörk, heading to get fud and then get home

[elfin mural]

stream started less than 30 mins ago

[opaque sedge]

Guys… its a lot of smearing… a crapton of ghosting

[elfin mural]

marketing technical yapping is what im hearing

and watching rn xd

[opaque sedge]

We’re cooked

[devout forum]

Can you drop me a ping when price is announced?

[elfin mural]

sure

[devout forum]

Danke

[elfin mural]

amd currently talking about driver improvements

"ai driven" testing tools?

[open knoll]

like always nvidia on top 👑

[elfin mural]

hmm..

[wise haven]

9070 xt better then 7900xt?

[opaque sedge]

Gonna be nvidia next year

[elfin mural]

don't forget missing ROPs leading to 8%+ perf loss

nvidia fumbled 50 series, they are not on top

(people will buy it regardless tho)

[elfin mural]

supposedly

im waiting for msrp announcement

[open knoll]

fake frames

fake frames are the future get used to it yall 🤷‍♂️

[wise haven]

frame generation so we can spawn frame from the air

[elfin mural]

it's an ugly future

it adds latency regardless no matter what you do

[opaque sedge]

And other visual downgrades

Smearing

Ghosting

Missing textures

[elfin mural]

i'd rather run low graphics than do framegen

tho nvidia reflex 2 is quite nice

it makes 1x frame gen usable, somewhat

ok

pricing is near

[open knoll]

here we go!

[elfin mural]

amd is saying they found 85% gamers buy gpus below 700

which is true

[open knoll]

broke ahh gamers 💀

[opaque sedge]

…

[elfin mural]

8 pin power connectors that won't melt

perfect

[elfin mural]

just ignore the rage bait

[open knoll]

☝️

[opaque sedge]

Aib companies seem to be doing their own thing tho sapphire is rumored to use the 12vhpwr for their nitro plus

[open knoll]

wowo

[opaque sedge]

Asrock made one last year too

For 7000 series

[elfin mural]

amd claims 9070 is faster than 7900 gre

by 21%

not bad

we'll see in reviews

@devout forum $550 9070, $600 9070XT

"starting at 599"

yikes..

that means we'll see gnarly prices

amd admits it's 2% slower than 5070ti

[gentle canyon]

its slower than 5070 ti 💀

[elfin mural]

but is claiming it offers more price to perf

[gentle canyon]

guh

OC

[open knoll]

ahh hell nah 💀

[gentle canyon]

model

[elfin mural]

this doesn't look good to most buyers

it being slower than the nvidia counterpart

tho 2% is like what

a margin of error

[gentle canyon]

how close is it to the XTX

[elfin mural]

claims 38% faster than GRE

i'll have to look at graphs

According to TPU, and if amd's claims are right, the 9070XT looks to be faster or as fast as XTX

at 1440p that is

[gentle canyon]

thats insane at 600ish with better rt

[elfin mural]

let's hope it translates to real reviews

march 6th availability

[gentle canyon]

9060 mentioned

[elfin mural]

9060, hm

[open knoll]

this will be scalped

[gentle canyon]

WHY CANT THEY BE REAL

i want a reference card they look so cool lol

[elfin mural]

bahaha

ref only

amd can't make ref models

the closest is asrock ig

[devout forum]

Damn that's not actually awful

[elfin mural]

yeah

[devout forum]

Used 4080 still better value for me tho

[elfin mural]

amd also has a date for availability

that's reassuring

[devout forum]

Cuz it's likely gonna be cheaper

At 400k HUF (a grand USD)

[elfin mural]

600 msrp is not a bad sign

[devout forum]

VAT, conversions, government cut

[devout forum]

It's gonna go way beyond that for me

[elfin mural]

tbh

[fresh timber]

Daddy needs a new gpu

Gimmie

[elfin mural]

who would game at 4k with 16gb vram anyway

it's not enough

[fresh timber]

Wot

[devout forum]

It's not awful

[fresh timber]

16gb should be enough

[elfin mural]

1440p is sweet spot

well it's enough if you don't ultra everything

[fresh timber]

4k tv

[fresh timber]

Ultra high, same thing

If you want max 4k vram prob won’t be the first problem

I bet it will be the gpu and how good the devs optimized

[elfin mural]

tru

[fresh timber]

Let’s be honest, if devs wasn’t stupid something 4070ti level could 4k relatively easily

[reef grove]

I got the case off eBay, new old stock.

Morning weggers

Beach was covered with more seashells than usual this morning

[opaque sedge]

This sub is having one heck of a rude awakening lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/s/LFSxRXvY2P

[unreal trail]

bro

[opaque sedge]

What

[craggy shoal]

bro

just bro

[fresh timber]

Okay seriously, how does one grow facial hair

[reef grove]

Time

My beard isn’t as thick as it looks, it’s just very curly so once it’s grows a bit it starts to fill in and look fuller than it is

I grow a weak ass mustache, I’m always jealous of guys that can grow super thick mustaches

But yea if I trim my beard down to shorter lengths you’ll be able to see my face through it

[fresh timber]

I have a small mustache but it blends in with my skin :/

[reef grove]

I didn’t really have a full beard until like my mid 20s

[fresh timber]

And by small I mean it’s thick enough to tell I have one, but too small to call it a real one

[devout forum]

Is GN actually talking performance in his video?

Or just an analysis

[reef grove]

I had big side burns for a long time, most of high school, and then for awhile I just had a chinstrap Amish style beard because my mustache and cheeks didn’t fill in well

[reef grove]

Oh, he’s done crying about LMG?

[fresh timber]

lol

I wanna grow a nice little stash, no beard

[devout forum]

Never

Who would he dramafarm for engagement if he was?

But he actually released a 9070 series vid

[reef grove]

💀

[fresh timber]

Amazing curls

Just top tier

[tranquil pebble]

I kinda wish Windows would go back to service pack naming

[fresh timber]

Also you do look Amish

[devout forum]

Amidroq

[reef grove]

I used to like shaving my beard into ridiculous mustaches

I gotta bring back the sideburns/mustache combo

[misty sparrow]

You look incredibly Southern

Somewhere around Kentucky/Alabama type of Southern

[reef grove]

I’m the furthest thing from it 😂

But I was going for full hillbilly look

Hence the wife beater and American flag accessories

[fresh timber]

I’m.. I’m scared

[misty sparrow]

Well you did a great job at it

[fresh timber]

Grow it back

Also is that female Droq

[reef grove]

@fast tinsel

[fresh timber]

:0

Lady droq

[reef grove]

I’ve seen her ankles

🫦

[fresh timber]

Wow

[tranquil pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/today-is-friday-in-california-gif-25066545

[sinful blade]

My mustache begins as a very bad looking pedo-stache, but will form a bushy one if I let it grow

[balmy solstice]

has it happent

550 and 600

??

[surreal comet]

Graphical card news what did miss

Will I regret my GPU purchase and wallow in shame

[balmy solstice]

all the amd big wigs threw it back on stage as they presented their new gpu's

[surreal comet]

Insane I need to see this

[misty sparrow]

#tech-deals-discussion message

[pseudo raven]

wowie

if i can get a card at launch ill sell my 3070 for 200

[surreal comet]

I'm just a few days I can start work again

Thank God

I need my Miata back on the road

[fresh timber]

My Miata

I want your Miata

[fair onyx]

@pliant berry @hoary zodiac Cool, so it got delayed again 😭

[pliant berry]

it will get there one day

[surreal comet]

No

My Miata

My speed car

[fresh timber]

Learn to share

[surreal comet]

There's only two seats pal

One for me

One for my pile of CDs

[fair onyx]

Maybe 😭

[pliant berry]

it is pretty nice though. I was even able to fit my laptop, power banks, a mirrorless camera with 24-70mm lens, and a rs4 pro gimbal all inside lol

[fair onyx]

I have no doubt I am gonna love it, but 2 months is just wild to me 😭

[pliant berry]

let it fade from your mind and then when it shows up at doorstep you get surprised

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[sinful blade]

Theo are you getting a 9070

[proud jackal]

i want to stay home and play mh wilds

no

[sinful blade]

I start work tomorrow, and don’t have mh wilds

[unreal trail]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-cat-kitten-gif-25320661

[rancid juniper]

Ok, AMD didn't miss an opportunity but definitely did with the $50 gap of the 9070 non xt

Other than that, well done hope they have enough stock at launch

[balmy solstice]

the scalpers will definitely have enough at launch

but hopefully amd has more

[rancid juniper]

Fr

[cedar compass]

do we have real tests of those new amd gpus ?

[devout forum]

probably not released yet

IIRC performance tests are embargoed until release

[dusk knot]

Soo .....9700xt

What do the amd guys think? I haven't watched a full review yet
.

[pseudo raven]

there isnt a full review yet

only first party numbers

theyre no nvidia in terms of that but it seems good from their own data

[mortal grail]

It's basically an XTX

For the 300th time

[dusk knot]

Yes.

Yes

[wise wigeon]

Ok just woke up

$600 good

Time to see if the stockpiling payed off

[devout forum]

it's an XTX that can actually do RT

at like non-crap level

[mortal grail]

Potentially

Tons of leaks have basically just pinned it as an XTX tho

[devout forum]

1440p 60fps RT is now on

And do mind

AMD didn't use any upscaling in their chart data

Now I dunno whether the competing cards used upscaling or not

but to be within 5-10% of a 5070 Ti without using upscaling is pretty good

[mortal grail]

Bold claim

[devout forum]

And again

AMD claims those numbers not using upscaling

[mortal grail]

I reckon the left side is correct, the right is a bit questionable

[devout forum]

Which is promising

also
No more chiplets

[mortal grail]

They don't need chipsets for this

[devout forum]

lmao

[mortal grail]

Die shrink far enough they can get away with a conventional die size

[devout forum]

No chipsets needed in our GPUs :3

[mortal grail]

They're using like 20% less than an xtx

[misty sparrow]

I swear these numbers are skewed

[devout forum]

There probably is some skewing

[icy ore]

[mortal grail]

Why I'm saying the right side seems a bit hopeful

[devout forum]

But it STILL is good to the point where I'd argue that being within 10% perf in RT for 150 bucks less is going to mean a lot

[mortal grail]

Yes

But more importantly

If the price holds

It's more like $300 less

[devout forum]

If stock exists and there are cards available for MSRP

Then it's safe to say that AMD didn't screw up this launch

[mortal grail]

"Wide availability"

Their words lmao

[devout forum]

Knock on wood that availability is there

Also DP2.1 is definitely welcome (even though it's not exactly a 4k240fps card in normal use)

DAMMIT

Maybe in a 9080 XT we could get 2.1b with perf for 4k240?

It'd be really good to top off this launch

[mortal grail]

They won't

[devout forum]

I know, but hope?

[mortal grail]

I have a different thought process

I'd rather they avoid it tbh

[devout forum]

why?

[mortal grail]

Put more money into making the rest cheaper pls

[balmy solstice]

stealing that thx

[devout forum]

I don't think it has to be done immediately

[mortal grail]

That's still RnD and team utilisation

[proud jackal]

[devout forum]

Maybe later, where the mid-cycle refresh would happen in the past?

once the dust settles

[proud jackal]

@mortal grail

[balmy solstice]

who stripped your pc

[mortal grail]

I would rather a fantastic card for the 90% than a card for the 1% and they can't afford to be competitive

[balmy solstice]

nsfw isnt allowed ❌

[mortal grail]

7000 series was exactly this

And AMD lost half their market share

[devout forum]

Again, it's a potential thing for later

For now we have the 9070s

and they look spicy

but like

[mortal grail]

People want this out of Arc too

[wise wigeon]

They def have next gen in the works already

[mortal grail]

I really doubt either will ever happen

[devout forum]

it sure looks like AMD didn't miss an opportunity too bad this time

[mortal grail]

Yeah I'd rather a next gen mid range underway pls lol

Gimme another good $600 10070 XT

[wise wigeon]

Arc is a bit of a big boy

[mortal grail]

L-connect more like L connection

[wise wigeon]

Really wish AMD didn’t say wisely available because not it puts pressure to deliver

Widely, now*

[mortal grail]

Scalpers be like:

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

[devout forum]

OH MY GOD

[mortal grail]

Gotta stay awake for a couple more hours

Gah

[devout forum]

first price drop

[mortal grail]

Bois we lost our boost

[devout forum]

for the XT

and it's bad

[wise wigeon]

Oh boy

[devout forum]

https://www.pgs.hu/gigabyte-aorus-radeon-9070-elite-p-483072.html

Now that being said

This is a shop I have never heard of

Seems really nice

and it IS a preorder

[balmy solstice]

thats a lot of feet

[devout forum]

1338 USD

[balmy solstice]

hell no

[devout forum]

that's much worse than I thought

[balmy solstice]

[devout forum]

It does include a 27% VAT

But even then that's significantly above any sort of EU MSRP

at least it's a store I dunno anything about

[wise wigeon]

Even then

[balmy solstice]

Even then

[proud jackal]

P28 doesn't need l connect

Straight to mobi

Mobo

[balmy solstice]

direct to room heating

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/cmMX-E87EhI?si=pREuTuE989_flkK4

[proud jackal]

Waiting for my 60 feet in tubing to come in to put it near window

[devout forum]

I know, but it is at least a store that is likely to be extra expensive

[proud jackal]

[devout forum]

wait the price just dropped

now only 1225 USD

[balmy solstice]

only

[devout forum]

I think they're updating the store as it goes

cuz this is THE first page that even lists the 9070 XT for sale

BTW

CP77 4k ultra non-RT
9070 XT is expected to be around 80 fps

if AMD is to be believed

that looks prettyy good

9070 XT do look like the new 1440p value king

[balmy solstice]

gonna see the switch 2 outperform it with its nvidia gpu

[dusk knot]

The rt.....rip

[devout forum]

Dang, this is still used 4080 money...

I suppose in the end, that used 4080 is just such a good deal it'd be hard to match it used

[opaque sedge]

We’re still at the mercy of aib manufacturers rn 💀

[balmy solstice]

used 4090 is still a better bang for your buck if you get it for an actual good price

[dusk knot]

Very much Soo.

[devout forum]

4090s start at like 1400 USD converted for us

4080 I can get for a grand on the dot

[opaque sedge]

New?

[balmy solstice]

used im assuming

[devout forum]

used ofc

[opaque sedge]

Ah

[devout forum]

but "like new" condition used

with box and all accessories

[opaque sedge]

Warrantied?

[devout forum]

Still under original seller warranty iirc

[opaque sedge]

Icic

[devout forum]

tho the absolute cheapest one is an OG 4080 so that might be out of warranty already

I'll go check

[balmy solstice]

getting your time machine

[devout forum]

oh ye

still in warranty until 26/01/2026

[balmy solstice]

day before the month

[devout forum]

It's to screw with people who are upset about that lol

I prefer 2026/01/26

[balmy solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-spongebob-gif-6081957

[devout forum]

I am European after all

[fresh nova]

Guys

I need the GIF

of the emoji face going NOOO with its arms up then it disenchantes

Someone has it

[fresh nova]

THANK YOU JP

[rigid sinew]

good morning frens

[surreal comet]

Going to chilli's on Sunday

What should I get

[opaque sedge]

Pure evil for doing this just before its noon

[opaque sedge]

Chimichangas

Do they have chimichangas?

Never been to chilis…

[mortal grail]

Morning

[surreal comet]

Id have to check

[dense locust]

disenchantes ah yes it turns into a movie

[opaque sedge]

Epic fail

[rigid sinew]

bahaha im in cali so its not evil

[tranquil pebble]

I am still under some effect of sedation from a tooth removal lol. I am ofc not driving but I need coffee lol

[mortal grail]

That ain't a fail that was premeditated

[opaque sedge]

PREMEDITATE D

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-alex-boyé-remember-me-song-gasp-panting-gif-21738077

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-distract-target-rdj-fighting101-gif-11233139

https://tenor.com/view/discombobulate-sherlock-sherlock-holmes-gif-14388058

[opaque sedge]

Ngl robert d jr is really fit for his age

[mortal grail]

He earns his pay

https://youtu.be/B62ACxuq8Pw

[craggy shoal]

Discombobulate

[cedar compass]

Hmm AMDs internal tests shows it's same as 5070ti

We have official prices as well

[mental yoke]

is the 9070 the top end amd offering?

[sweet phoenix]

9070xt is, for now

There were rumors of a 32gb gpu in the works

[cedar compass]

They just making their bestie nvidia to make money with highend cards

[sweet phoenix]

If its true is imagine it's better than 5080, worse than the 5090

[dusk knot]

But cheaper

[craggy shoal]

It'll be cheaper

[cedar compass]

I mean another xtx for this gen would be good

[mortal grail]

Not happening

Denied by amd themselves

[craggy shoal]

Because honestly, is a 5070 Ti REALLY $750?

[sweet phoenix]

Ahh ok

[dusk knot]

OCing the 9700xt should make it close to a 5080 according to a few claims

[cedar compass]

Yeah we don't trust internal tests but still we hope so

[mortal grail]

[dusk knot]

You're salt

[mortal grail]

Just remember "it's an XTX" and things are easy to think about

[dusk knot]

Right

All and all, AMD Did good this time around

[mortal grail]

Don't say that until the fat lady sings

Holy hell

[dusk knot]

I just wish the Rt performance was better 😔

[mortal grail]

KNOCK ON WOOD JP

DON'T JINX IT WTF

[chrome mirage]

I managed to reassemble a PS5 and didn't lose any of the 73 screws I removed.

[dusk knot]

[mortal grail]

[dusk knot]

What can pos-

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7zsMC

Is this good

I play Roblox

[velvet summit]

not enough cores

[mortal grail]

Have you tried geforce now

[mental yoke]

ngl i kinda like apple

[velvet summit]

you want a dual socket design for roblox

[mortal grail]

Oh

I get it

I get why 9070 is 550 now

Oh it's so obvious

[mental yoke]

the 9070 is only 550?

[mortal grail]

Yeah

[mental yoke]

thats cheap

[mortal grail]

And there's a VERY good reason for it

[velvet summit]

9070xt is 600

[mental yoke]

thats cheap too

[mortal grail]

9070 XT is 600

But 9070 will be 550 until after the 5070 launches

[mental yoke]

good price point to market ur end game gpu offering i guess

[mortal grail]

It's so obvious

[mental yoke]

should force nvidias hand a little bit but

[mortal grail]

I can't believe I only just noticed it

[mental yoke]

i might go amd this next build

[mortal grail]

Everyone's glazing over it but amd matched it to avoid a price war

[mental yoke]

ive been intel/nvidia for awhile

[frigid stag]

Lol amd fanboys in ltt’s video comment sections are going insane

[mortal grail]

It's so bloody obvious

[frigid stag]

“3070 was a shi show with 8gb vram”

ignores part that those cards sold out each time and no one gave af about vram till a few crap games came out in 2023

[mortal grail]

Man the meta on that one

@velvet summit

[velvet summit]

💀

[cedar compass]

I almost always having few extra screws when i reassemble somthing

[velvet summit]

they just missed one f

😔

[mortal grail]

And an e

[velvet summit]

and one extra c

[mortal grail]

And the logo

And the tweet

[dusk knot]

@mortal grail it's just in, AMD has made a quick announcement to raise the prices of their 9000 series by $250

[mortal grail]

Stop the cap

Lmao

[dusk knot]

[opaque sedge]

Oof i really wanted that

But when i was building my pc those things were over a grand

[velvet summit]

thefatrat cinematic phonk?

https://youtu.be/3ESat1K9Sdc

[opaque sedge]

And my budget was…

[opaque sedge]

Wth

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/that-would-be-your-mother-yo-mama-tf2spy-your-mother-gif-18581256

[muted stump]

Hey, is this still a pretty good GPU for streaming HDD? RTX 4070 Super

[velvet summit]

wdym

streaming hdd?

[dusk knot]

Hd?

[muted stump]

Can this handle HDD streaming of games without dropping frames

[dusk knot]

You mean HD

[muted stump]

yes

[dusk knot]

High definition streaming

[velvet summit]

like from geforce now?

[muted stump]

1092 x 1080

[dusk knot]

yes. At 1080p.no problem

[velvet summit]

ohh

twitch or youtube streaming?

[muted stump]

twitch

[velvet summit]

ah yeah it would be fine then

[muted stump]

and sometime I do coding videos

for game dev

[dusk knot]

Ngreedai is the best for that

[velvet summit]

well, not really? intel quicksync is also very good for that as well

[dusk knot]

🤔

[velvet summit]

though nvenc may be a bit faster

[dusk knot]

aha

I wasn’t wrong

[velvet summit]

qsv is good for quality encoding though, but nvenc is good at fast but uses a bit more bandwidth for the same quality