general-chat

[hoary zodiac]

you know funny thing

[frigid stag]

You could boot up a 15 year old game and it’ll just run

[hoary zodiac]

there's a quote from GN's latest video

[wise wigeon]

think i got my brother's xfx 6800 for like 360

[wise wigeon]

about that

[hoary zodiac]

people used to buy nvidia because they were the "just works" option

[opaque sedge]

I ordered the new tmr joystick controller but missed the batch that had next day shipping 💀 had i ordered an hour earlier i would have had it in my hands today

[hoary zodiac]

that's not the case anymore

GN said this btw

[frigid stag]

Apart from no physx they’re fine

[wise wigeon]

uh

[hoary zodiac]

uh

what

excuse me?

[mortal grail]

My favourite comment of this launch "Nvidia could burn your house down at this point and people will still never pick AMD"

[wise wigeon]

how nice of them to provide warmth in a time like this

[frigid stag]

I can bet u half my bank account I can buy a 5080 rn and it would be fine without any issues

[mortal grail]

Coldest summers on record over here, good timing

[frigid stag]

Aside from no physx obv but I can deal with that. I can run a 2nd gpu

[wise wigeon]

or just turn it off

[hoary zodiac]

do it then

[wise wigeon]

but no we're talking blackscreen and rops issues mostly

[mortal grail]

Like probably? But don't doubt the problem with 12v 2x6 as a spec potentially running 15A down one of your cable strands

[frigid stag]

I play older games sometimes but haven’t needed physx in any of them in years

[mortal grail]

Or yeah

Missing rops

[frigid stag]

Last physx game I played was probably 9 years ago

[mortal grail]

Black screens

RMA availability

Availability period

[frigid stag]

It’s overblown like most things

[mortal grail]

Starting prices over 2x

[wise wigeon]

we gotta see how well this ages with the new nitro plus

[mortal grail]

I'm interested to see how they did it

[frigid stag]

I mean I can pre order one for non extortionate prices so

[devout forum]

Alright I'll take that bet

[mortal grail]

Imagine AMD did proper balancing

[devout forum]

Cuz nGreedAI is outright scarcity market

[frigid stag]

It takes a month to arrive though so that’s nice

[wise wigeon]

only xtx that had a 16 pin last time was the creator from asrock iirc

[frigid stag]

I’ll probably forget I ordered one by the time it arrives

[devout forum]

The GPUs exist
But it makes more money for nvidia if you can't buy it

[mortal grail]

I might take a look at it tbh

[wise wigeon]

you wanna nab a blower card?

[wise wigeon]

lucky

if i could get a 70 ti for 750-800 i would but thats not in the cards rn

[frigid stag]

Well it’s arriving 1 month later so it makes sense why it’s cheaper than usual prices

[wise wigeon]

not the case for everything

[frigid stag]

If I were to get one right now as in next day delivery I’d probably need to pay at least 1500 to 1600

[wise wigeon]

i mean i been waiting 2+ weeks on this xtx

[frigid stag]

😦

[wise wigeon]

@mortal grail bruh

i cant believe they started that promotion literally the day after amazon charged me

apparently GN talked to amd people and they have no idea how to price the cards

HOWWWW

you've had 2 months

[unreal chasm]

Yes I reinstalled newest drivers for it

[mortal grail]

Can't find the pcb

Deadinside

[mortal grail]

Nah not buying a 3rd lol

[wise wigeon]

how is it a day or 2 bfore announcement ya'll still dunno what price you want

[mortal grail]

Throwback to 7600 when mid-review they kept changing the price until the last couple hours

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-pulling-hair-no-frustrating-gif-3532627

[mortal grail]

I'm not surprised

They'll do this until the launch day

Lol

[wise wigeon]

if they fumble again i won't be surprised

but like its the fumble of the decade at least

[mortal grail]

Mentioned this before

If they slip up this time, that's it

I don't think they'll give us another gen

[nocturne flicker]

$2.84

[mortal grail]

What about now

[nocturne flicker]

Now I want $4,985.99

[wise wigeon]

still cheaper than the bucket

[mortal grail]

Lol

[nocturne flicker]

It is done

[wise wigeon]

lol

[gentle canyon]

i forgot about that

lisa save us please

[wise wigeon]

lisa is jensen's cousin lets see if it runs in the family

[hoary zodiac]

silicon valley habsburgs

[nocturne flicker]

Uh

I don't think-

[wise wigeon]

you never know

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

Not yet

[nocturne flicker]

[hoary zodiac]

They're probably closer to the Hohenzollerns tbh

Or the Bourbons

Actually Bourbon would be a perfect fit

no ROPs? just get a RTX 5090

[gentle canyon]

in new gn video he keeps mentioning intel 2016

what was so big about that year

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say he's referring to the stagnation of that period

4c/8t

that's just my interpretation tho

[nocturne flicker]

Intel 2016 was when Intel was sitting around doing nothing, allowing AMD to cook up a big comeback swing

[hoary zodiac]

kaby lake moment

[gentle canyon]

is that when ryzen launched

[nocturne flicker]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

the 1700X had 8c/16t

the 7700k ad 4c/8t

[nocturne flicker]

Well, Ryzen launched March of 2017

[hoary zodiac]

Coffee lake Q4 of 17

Kaby lake was Q1 of 17

I wonder what would've prompted that coffee lake launch hmmm

[wraith fern]

khaby lame

[worthy meteor]

14nm+++++++++ era

[frigid stag]

Funny how ryzen was like 4 gens behind intel

Was getting gapped by 22nm

3770K go brrr

[nocturne flicker]

Ryzen was 4 gens behind Intel because that is basically where they left off with FX

[gentle canyon]

RYZEN, GIVE ME 12 CORE CCD X3D, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-14359310805617143133

[wraith fern]

fx 8350 ftw fym

[hoary zodiac]

Ryzen being 4 gens behind still posed enough of a threat for coffee lake to become a thing

[frigid stag]

More cores go brrr

The marketing was stronger for it than intel

[hoary zodiac]

because they actually had something to offer

yes zen/zen+ ipc was garbage

[nocturne flicker]

The environment naturally favored AMD. Because everyone was annoyed with Intel and AMD coming back was an underdog fighting back against the titan

[frigid stag]

I mean if you needed a cheap workstation cpu then ye

[hoary zodiac]

but it was good enough to catch people's attention

[frigid stag]

1800x was much cheaper than 6900k

[hoary zodiac]

innovation always catch people's attention

it wasn't just workstation

[frigid stag]

It basically was. They were so much worse for gaming

[hoary zodiac]

I remember zen being quite popular with streamers

[frigid stag]

But techtubers just spammed 1440p/ ultra settings benchmarks to show how “small” of a difference it was

Even then the difference was pretty large, took them a while to find a use for it

They were cheap for Black Friday sales at least

[hoary zodiac]

I think you are exaggerating on how bad ryzen actually was

[frigid stag]

Early ryzen was that bad

Zen 2 was ok and then from there they’re fine

zen 3 and up are decent

[hoary zodiac]

you're making it sound like that the only thing propping up ryzen was fake numbers

[frigid stag]

Pretty much was

For most people at least

[hoary zodiac]

define most people

[frigid stag]

Games were heavily single core

Most people still don’t use 8 cores let alone 7 years ago

[hoary zodiac]

because they didn't have 8 cores

[frigid stag]

Ye so why does it matter for them

[hoary zodiac]

wh

so you're saying that innovation doesn't matter

[frigid stag]

Like what’s the goal of having 8 much slower cores for a task that needs fast single core

It was an improvement from fx 100% but I don’t think they were worth buying personally

[hoary zodiac]

I think you're missing the entire point

the point is that it was a disruptive product

they gained market share because they made something that consumers wanted

simple as that

it wasn't a marketing conspiracy

they made a good product

[frigid stag]

Ye that’s where I disagree on the last part

[hoary zodiac]

you can argue about specs and real performance all you want

[frigid stag]

It wasn’t good but the effect of it was

Bad product, good outcome eventually

[hoary zodiac]

let's agree to disagree

[frigid stag]

Sure

I’m not a fanboy of either btw, I’m actually a fan of the 9800x3d

It’s a solid option

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not either

I absolutely despise AMD

[frigid stag]

Oh

[hoary zodiac]

same with nvidia and intel for that matter

[frigid stag]

They make good CPU’s now at least they’re available

[hoary zodiac]

I just don't agree with what you said

[worthy meteor]

At the time 1600af was amazing value for gaming and for a platform that lives on to this day

[frigid stag]

I’ve tried a zen + pc and almost everyone who I know that did said the same thing when they upgraded

[worthy meteor]

Early ryzen still has a lot to offer

[hoary zodiac]

sample size?

[frigid stag]

They were just garbage in performance

Zen 1/+ created the amdip meme

[worthy meteor]

Once new generations came in, yea

[hoary zodiac]

again that's not the point

the point wasn't raw performance

they had no chance of going up against intel head on

[frigid stag]

Where your average fps was high but the 1% lows would dip so hard

[hoary zodiac]

the point was to create a disruptive product

that would appeal to the mass consumer

zen and zen + was extremely successful in that case

[frigid stag]

I mean for it to be disruptive it either has to be price or marketing

[worthy meteor]

But Ryzen was very competitive for the time, especially compared to pre-ryzen AMD, the market share increase was huge

[hoary zodiac]

you can argue about gaming performance all you want

[frigid stag]

Or some special feature

[hoary zodiac]

but that's not the entire story

and even then the am4 platform has a lot of benefits

like say

[worthy meteor]

Ryzen was disruptive with a long lasting platform, high core counts, and cheap price

[hoary zodiac]

overclocking on B boards

[frigid stag]

Well yeah in the long term you could get more out of it

[hoary zodiac]

I'm trying not to include hindsight

but even in 2017 there were a lot of benefits of going ryzen

again

[worthy meteor]

At the time of launch they promised 4 years

Not even hindsight

[hoary zodiac]

gamers are not the entire market

[frigid stag]

I mean they were decent for multi core especially at the price

[worthy meteor]

Hindsight says 9 years on, am4 still lives

[worthy meteor]

Intel didn't have anything that could compare to 1600af at that time

Or 3100/3300x

[frigid stag]

Yea it just took 4 years to get the same performance you could’ve had in 2018 with ☕ lake

[worthy meteor]

The near and sub $100 CPU option

[hoary zodiac]

here's the thing

[worthy meteor]

With a ddr4 platform

[hoary zodiac]

you could not get a 6c/12t for that cheap

[worthy meteor]

9100f+board and 8350k+board were more expensive

[hoary zodiac]

9100f is stretching it

[worthy meteor]

Especially with how cheap you could get a320 boards

[hoary zodiac]

that's getting close to zen 2

[worthy meteor]

We're in the range of iirc $75 for 1600af and ~$60 for an a320 board, brand new

It wasn't something you could do with Intel without going used

All of the lga1151v2 boards were $80+

[hoary zodiac]

again

[nocturne flicker]

They weren't that bad for gaming. The 1600x was rather close to the 7600k. The biggest reason why 4 gens behind Intel was a thing was not because Zen 1 was really bad, it is because the stagnation of Intel and OC potential for the older higher end chips was really good

[hoary zodiac]

here's the thing

computers aren't solely for gaming

let's say you're a twitch streamer

or a 3D modeller

[worthy meteor]

It wasn't just appeared good, they were competitive where Intel didn't offer anything at that price

There weren't any z370 boards as cheap as a320 boards

[hoary zodiac]

narrowing ryzen down to poor performance in gaming does it a massive disservice

[worthy meteor]

Again, that's not $60

[hoary zodiac]

and exaggerates how bad the performance actually is

what if

[worthy meteor]

Zen 1 big issue was the imc just couldn't do anything really

[hoary zodiac]

you can do BOTH

on the same machine

[worthy meteor]

Zen + at least 3200 worked

[hoary zodiac]

it's not exclusive

that's the appeal of ryzen

they offer MORE options

[worthy meteor]

Zen+ was competitive for being cheaper and offering equivalent workstation performance for significantly cheaper

Gaming wise Zen+ was just cheaper but behind

[hoary zodiac]

exactly

you can't measure ryzen by gaming performance alone

that's a terrible metric

[worthy meteor]

Problem with Intel at the time for low end was non-Z boards locking memory frequency which kinda took away their advantage

[wicked oriole]

Do I grab a used 4090 FE for 2k plus tax?

[hoary zodiac]

you can't say that ryzen is a garbage product because it didn't offer good gaming performance

[worthy meteor]

A320 limit was 3200 iirc

[hoary zodiac]

that ignores the entire purpose of ryzen

[worthy meteor]

Intel anything before b560 was 2400/2600 iirc

[hoary zodiac]

it offered a great value proposition to consumer

you get a less powerful cpu sure

[worthy meteor]

It was i3/i5 got 2400, i7/i9 get 2666 on most of them

[hoary zodiac]

but it's more versatile

and they were more cost effective

[worthy meteor]

3200c16 was the standard way before that

There was also the 3000c15 aegis kit back then that was popular

[hoary zodiac]

I think that's got more to do with ram pricing than anything

[worthy meteor]

I paid like $70 for 2x8 3200c16 iirc

Late 2018 or so, I'll have to check when my order was

[hoary zodiac]

there was a ram shortage?

[worthy meteor]

It was under supply

[hoary zodiac]

covid?

huh

[worthy meteor]

Prices were high but I would not call it a shortage like anything we've seen since

[hoary zodiac]

is that a US exclusive thing?

or global

[worthy meteor]

Afaik global

Was like Samsung hynix and co underestimated demand for a bit

Honestly not really

It was like $60 or so for EVGA BR

$70 for CX

[hoary zodiac]

isn't that bomb tier

or near bomb tier

[worthy meteor]

Granted it was 550w but that was also before 30xx power draw became an issue

[hoary zodiac]

true

[worthy meteor]

Nah D tier iirc, more than usable for low end

[hoary zodiac]

oh 💀

I usually set the bar at C tier

[worthy meteor]

CX is B tier

I'll need to double check the tiers

[hoary zodiac]

make sure you use a 2018 list

[worthy meteor]

It was back during the LTT forum tier list not the cultist tier list

[hoary zodiac]

2023 list probably isn't accurate

[worthy meteor]

LTT forum tiers are different from cultist tiers

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

it was accurate for 2018

🤷‍♂️

[storm narwhal]

It'll only explode in the future

[hoary zodiac]

older models were more usable back then

[worthy meteor]

Low priority C tier, more than usable :p
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-eol-psu-tier-list-rev-148/

[hoary zodiac]

a s12iii would've been a decent budget psu back then

today it's probably a bomb

thermaltake

[worthy meteor]

I hated s12iii from the beginning lol

[storm narwhal]

Where's the newest PSU list

[worthy meteor]

I know s12iii was one tier below br

[hoary zodiac]

It's not a good psu

but it didn't cross into bomb

[worthy meteor]

None updated from cultists, ztt people are trying to make a separate one

[hoary zodiac]

at least for 2018

[worthy meteor]

Whole brand F tiers are generally lying in advertising and lying in reviewer samples so there's no way to tell what piece of crap you get

Iirc gamemax sent different samples for 80+ verification than what was shipped to consumers

[pseudo patrol]

wait why are people saying linux is better than w11

[worthy meteor]

I mean the problem that put gamemax into F tier is pre-2021, I don't keep track with what has happened since

[hoary zodiac]

it's a crappy product

you have to pay money for windows

and your data is monetised too

with all that money

[pseudo patrol]

I thought it was a free upgrade, im still on w10 lol

[hoary zodiac]

and they still can't deliver a good consumer experience

[storm narwhal]

w11 is pretty crap

[hoary zodiac]

in fact

[storm narwhal]

it just broke itself randomly trying to force an update

[hoary zodiac]

there are documented cases where games on linux run better than on windows 11

[storm narwhal]

Just had to reinstall it

[hoary zodiac]

like

it's a paid product

[storm narwhal]

and yeah, linux with proton compatibility supports a lot more games now

[hoary zodiac]

it should not be in the state it is

[worthy meteor]

It's a problem with the credibility of the company, they can't trust gamemax after it came out reviewer samples were different from what was sent to consumers iirc

[hoary zodiac]

10 is tolerable

Linux has as many bloat as you install

[storm narwhal]

If you can't ensure what product is sent out to customers, that's all that matters to the consumer

[worthy meteor]

Upgrade to get more intrusive advertising and more intrusive data collection :)

[storm narwhal]

doesn't matter if someones copying your brand

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say even a bloated 7 install is usable

[storm narwhal]

The consumer should just avoid it entirely

Hence, F tier

[hoary zodiac]

at least more usable than a bloated 11 install

win 10 you can probably get by

maybe...

[pseudo patrol]

I've also seen people could pirate LTSC for windows 10 to allow a further security support past the due date

[craggy shoal]

I hate what we've made this world

[gentle canyon]

i will run on w10 until my pc just doesnt work unless i go to w11

[worthy meteor]

Debloated w11 is fine for now but who knows what Microsoft will add next

[storm narwhal]

LTSC is not the same as normal windows

[worthy meteor]

Why only record your screen when they can record your voice at all times or smth

[hoary zodiac]

the problem is charging people money for the OS, directly or indirectly through OEMs, then MONETISING their data, and deliver a crappy product at the same time

[pseudo patrol]

same, it jus sucks that new motherboards dont allow wireless wifi components

[storm narwhal]

missing a few consumer features and games might need extra installations to work

[hoary zodiac]

people are willing to jump into the linux rabbit hole because they're sick of microsoft's crap

[pseudo patrol]

I'll jus keep running ethernet tho

[storm narwhal]

And gets much slower updates than general release

[hoary zodiac]

if they can't get windows to work

they go to the competition

[pseudo patrol]

yeah w11 got so many bloated background running programs it'll be so much slower in the future

[hoary zodiac]

it already is

in some instances game run slower on windows than linux

[storm narwhal]

there is so much bloat that you can just uninstall with revo

[hoary zodiac]

despite the fact that for a lot of games you have to run a compatibility layer

[storm narwhal]

it's like, 5-6 random microsoft apps

[hoary zodiac]

like

it's not just the bloat

it's the bloat and the data collection and the os just being annoying to use in general

oh and it's unstable too

[storm narwhal]

data collection and instability for sure

but I mean, it has things that just don't even need to be there

[hoary zodiac]

I had a dual boot linux and win 10 install for the longest time

now I don't bother anymore with 11

it's more hassle than running a windows vm

[frigid stag]

More people would use Linux if they knew what it even was

They probably think it’s some hacker os

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

a lot of academics at my uni use linux

that says a lot

especially for institutions that's been traditionally entrenched in windows

[frigid stag]

I mean it’s not that hard to pick up as a beginner

[hoary zodiac]

they still bear with it

and work out the issues

[frigid stag]

As long as you’re semi savvy with windows

[hoary zodiac]

I'm more talking about using linux professionally

[frigid stag]

Ye it’s much more popular there

[storm narwhal]

Just do about an hour of searching and you'll probably find the solution you're looking for

[frigid stag]

Most servers and things run on Linux I’d assume

[hoary zodiac]

it's a lot more difficult to use linux in a professional environment

than just using it personally

[storm narwhal]

90% of server things run on linux

[frigid stag]

Can do more with it though

[hoary zodiac]

yes but however

[storm narwhal]

the internet relies on linux

[hoary zodiac]

a lot of applications are windows exclusive

especially with science and engineering

[frigid stag]

Wonder how much market share % windows server has compared to Linux

[hoary zodiac]

it's gotten a lot better recently

[frigid stag]

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

which has in turn helped linux adoption

I'd say linux adoption has surged in the past couple years

line that up with the launch of windows versions

[storm narwhal]

Can't wait till SteamOS officially releases

[hoary zodiac]

maybe there's a pattern

[storm narwhal]

Technically there is bazzite

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say it's more

microsoft greed

windows itself isn't bad

the NT kernel is decent

it's what microsoft decides to put on it

like windows is a great platform

if microsoft actually did something with it

depends

some "normies" never used a pc

or are mac users

in that case linux is possibly as easy to learn as windows

[storm narwhal]

nah

[hoary zodiac]

windows is just the de facto standard

[storm narwhal]

They want you to use crappy w11

[hoary zodiac]

a lot of infrastructure runs on windows

[storm narwhal]

So they have more data to sell

[pseudo patrol]

i mean technically if you have a decent anti virus and stay away from malicious sites W10 will be the ultimate home instead of being forced to migrate

[hoary zodiac]

to be fair

viruses are usually a skill issue

[storm narwhal]

In theory it should be fine

[pseudo patrol]

exactly

my Windows defender never detects anything anymore

[storm narwhal]

Until there's a critical vulnerability that is like kernel level or something

[pseudo patrol]

my downloads have changed since I was a young one

I used to download those roblox exploits on my old laptop which had malicious items lol

but now that i'm older I stayed away from allat

[hoary zodiac]

yeah don't download Star_Wars_Ep7_x264.BDRip.moviedealer.mp4

[pseudo patrol]

stuff like that you could easily find on a 3rd party website

jus avoid zip files

torrents are a lil skeptical

[dense locust]

Window was committed to make everyone hate windows 8

[hoary zodiac]

ok

[dense locust]

Just try downloading a Minecraft mod

[hoary zodiac]

maybe let's not talk about actually pirating

classic

[dense locust]

I’ve never had any more sketchy sites than I did when looking up anything relating to Minecraft modding

I’m glad we got actual modding hosting sites now

[sage sluice]

Its joever

This is why ublockorigin is my beloved

Firefox mobile the goat

[lone mango]

you right tho fr

Dude what is he doing on that black screen

[frigid stag]

😭

[lone mango]

Firefox focus goes too hard

[pseudo patrol]

adblock

[storm narwhal]

Firefox mobile is the only one that can install addons as far as I know

[nocturne flicker]

The screen: sudo rm -fr /*

[storm narwhal]

Also the FBI literally reccomends you use an adblock

[sage sluice]

Ive actually never used it

[pseudo patrol]

i love firefox

[storm narwhal]

That does not look like official minecraft forums lmao

[pseudo patrol]

I can watch youtube without ads, no paying for premium haha

[fresh timber]

nurse joy is pretty tonight

[pseudo patrol]

that minimap goes hard

[storm narwhal]

that's crazy it looks like that

[sage sluice]

From my memory ios cant enable add ons w firefox

[fresh timber]

fr, i spent 3 days making a mod pack with my friends, we like to add more stuff every once and a while

today we added like 10 more mods

[sage sluice]

Nurse joy awakening a sleeping bear in me

[fresh timber]

i wanna get a dedicated server for this but self hosting is fine, i got a server for a reason

[lone mango]

On ios you cant have multiple tabs open but on android you can

Its weird

[fresh timber]

u cant?

i have tabs

[lone mango]

But since you can have multiple tabs open on android it was my main browser

Firefox focus is basically private browsing but with some more hardening

Look at what you just told me

[edgy lantern]

Anyone notice this year that manufactures of electric clothing dryers are no longer listing if dryer is 110v or 220v? Did some kind of set standard take place?

[sage sluice]

I consistently reach 100+

Everytime i close tabs

[lone mango]

I dont understand

[sage sluice]

I somehow open over a hundred in days

[lone mango]

I have no clue

I have never bought one before

[sage sluice]

It already kills me when monitors like hide their panel type in the deepest darkest pits of hell

[lone mango]

And the finishing blow is va

[sage sluice]

Hey if its miniled va ill tolerate it

[edgy lantern]

Least I didn't buy a new dryer and find out the hard way. Unlike 2023 where I bought all new parts for 3 gaming server systems, each in a $300 glass case, and got suprised when the Blu-ray tray kept trying to come out and hit the front glass panel, and stood looking at it 10 minutes before I realized most cases don't fit DVD players anymore 😳

[sage sluice]

Unironically just buy like a PS3 for a dvd player

[edgy lantern]

Had to jury rig all 3 systems to use sata. For some reason, using USB was causing some old game titles copy protection to kick in and not run the game. Old origin cds for one that ran off the cd.

[edgy lantern]

You'll laugh. I spent 3 hours+ jury rigging all 3 new systems, to find out a week later that the monitors had a blu-ray player built in them.

[sage sluice]

🥹

[edgy lantern]

Not a waste of time though. Those $129+ anime rpgs sold in boxes come with dvds and USB. But dvds seem faster.

[nocturne flicker]

I bought a disk drive specifically to read PS3 discs

[frigid stag]

How you didn’t have one already is kinda concerning

[nocturne flicker]

You need a specific model to read and dump PS3 discs on PC

[edgy lantern]

I don't know about PS3, but I do have PS1 titles like Lunar I &II and the emulator plays them flawlessly. Better than the ps1, and I can cheat easily now. Hated having to rely on game shark codes when I can just use a memory editor and make my own changes.

[fresh timber]

Im addicted to cobblfmon

[nocturne flicker]

There are about 53 blu-ray disk drive models capable of dumping PS3 disks

Some of them are not sold anymore and some on have specific revisions capable of it

[edgy lantern]

Oh, I also own a lot of PS2 RPGs. My two favorites are wild arms 2 & 3

Can't recall if I ever tried to run a ps2 game on my pc.

When my bulky TV died, found out the ps1 and ps2 won't work on my flat screens. Bought a switch, but didn't help.

[nocturne flicker]

PS2 disks are unencrypted so any drive can dump the games

[edgy lantern]

Never got back to it because I kinda get distracted and got caught up making plug-ins for Starbound and Ultima Online emulator.

[edgy lantern]

That's good to know. Any good emulator? Or if that's a nono, forget I asked.

[dense locust]

Emulators are legal

It’s the games that are the issue

[nocturne flicker]

PCSX2 is the best and pretty much the only one

[edgy lantern]

I also got caught up promoting multi player games for a bunch of titles. Kinda funny how I left that line of work, which was promoting Ultima Online for EA, then years later my kids got into gaming and somehow they pulled me back in.

[nocturne flicker]

I think there is like, one other for PC and one for mobile

[edgy lantern]

Have you ever seen the Steam Deck? I own one but use the Linux it came with. Some choose windows, but I prefer using what it came with, in case of issues.

[nocturne flicker]

I'm not a handheld computer guy, but iirc PCSX2 also works on the Steam Deck

[edgy lantern]

That's very good to know.

Thanks.

[dense locust]

Nintendo switch also works on steam deck so I think it can handle ps2 just fine

[edgy lantern]

Switch titles I don't like messaging with. Each of my kids and my wife own one, and several incidents scared me into not trying. Year after it was out, someone used a game shark type device on a single player game rental. It resulted in their deck getting locked and banned. Once they returned it, the next renter used the game and it resulted in their deck getting locked out as well, and his children's as well that were linked. Nintendo is not to friendly when the switch is concerned. My Nintendo 3dxl I could care less about though heh.

Rune Factory titles are my favorites. I got them on Steam as well, though game play on the deck is annoying. My windows pc runs them better.

[dense locust]

Their deck, not the switch?

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-hitori-gotou-anime-head-bump-gif-26891691

[edgy lantern]

Sorry. I'm saying before I started talking about the 3dxl, is that all my familys switch games I wouldn't risk trying to play on my steam deck, because I'm worried of triggering a Nintendo ban on the games and my familys Switch systems. We own both Nintendo switches and Steam Decks, though I slip up sometimes and all my Steam deck, a Steam Switch lol

[edgy lantern]

This really doesn't help my migraine 😕

[dense locust]

Emulated games couldn’t even attempt to connect to the internet

The only way to try to even get banned by Nintendo is by using the mig switch to play a copy of a game at the same time as another switch and go online

Also mod chip but that should be obvious

[edgy lantern]

I don't play the Nintendo switch like rest of family so don't know much. If you wanted to cheat on a legal multi-player game, that I can do with my eyes closed. Legal meaning the person who is hosting says it's OK. I don't make them for games like TF2 and now a days only make plug-ins on Steam Workshop. Got tired of people yelling at me they got banned when my utilities clearly have check agreements before running, only to use on title it's made for. I'm on steam under same name so all my workshop titles are listed, though not updated in a year. Kinda got burned out for a while.
.

I made a lot doing repairs back in the days on the ps2 and wii systems, from people who failed moding and knocked off surface mounts in the process. Can't do that now. Half blind.

[vital pier]

👍

[edgy lantern]

Ran a BBS in the 80s, first on a C128d, then Amiga C-Net. Called it Video Game Mansion. I almost put one up on my PC 7 years ago, but person who took over, kept running into issues and didn't have the code for 2.0.

[lone mango]

Yeah you can emulate gt4 on mobile

Pretty cool

[devout forum]

https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/s/VUu30pStR3

Grain of salt of course

[lone mango]

No salt will be taken

That kind of perf has been shown a good bit so you can assume at this point that it will be at that level

Bigger thing is price. I still think its gonna be 650 but real world price may be higher

I lowkey might get a 9060 xt

12 gb vram

[elfin mural]

price leaked in microcenter for 9070xt

a bit under 700

not surprised

[still sun]

Great

[devout forum]

That's honestly not awful

It's still 50-100 bucks more than it really should be to ACTUALLY win major market share

[wise wigeon]

I mean if it’s the same leak a bit means $699

[elfin mural]

yuh

1 dollars off lmao

or 1 cent

[devout forum]

To be fair

I was calling 650 for the 9070

And 750 for the XT

[elfin mural]

and ofc some cards bleed into 1k

or rather..

[wise wigeon]

I’m hoping the ones I. The right are placeholders

[devout forum]

That's so ass

[elfin mural]

ALL of them

but asrock

[devout forum]

Anything over 700 for XT is bad value

Especially when in some cases a 7800 XT beats the 9070 XT

[wise wigeon]

?

[devout forum]

If they priced the 9070 like the 7700 XT was
They'd be massively winning rn

[wise wigeon]

Thought the general performance was 7900xt to xtx tier

[devout forum]

But instead they managed to fumble even when every star aligns

[devout forum]

For the XT

9070 is GRE tier iirc

[wise wigeon]

?

[devout forum]

And it costs like the same the GRE went for

It's stagnation in it's purest form

AMD seems like they truly can fumble any GPU launch even when they're literally offered a win on a silver platter

[wise wigeon]

I hope it’s not a complete fumble

But considering AMD is asking YouTubers about prices

And still doesn’t have a concrete one after a 2 month delay

[devout forum]

Yeah it's an absolute fumble

[wise wigeon]

Is like disheartening

[devout forum]

I have zero doubts that they will fumble now

At this point I am convinced this is another fumble

[elfin mural]

9070 red devil costing 1099 is WILD

[devout forum]

Ikr???

It's stagnation in it's purest form

Unless you can OC the XT to beat a 4080

That's just craptastic

[elfin mural]

i mean reaper

whatever powercolor is naming

[wise wigeon]

If the general street price of a xt bleeds into 850-900

[devout forum]

100% will

[elfin mural]

it will

[devout forum]

It's just inevitable now

[elfin mural]

the asrock cards will run outta stock

[wise wigeon]

Honestly just wait for a 70 ti

Or get a xtx

[devout forum]

Street prices rn go like "MSRP+200"

Just in general

[wise wigeon]

Ray tracing isnt likely to be like 40% better

[elfin mural]

they're also the challengers

oof

[devout forum]

Ironically if AMD actually cared they'd have lowered MSRP by 200-250

[wise wigeon]

And you lose 8 gb vram

[elfin mural]

the msrp priced cards

[devout forum]

Then they'd get GLOWING reviews even if the prices are actually like 650-700 bucks

[elfin mural]

well

[wise wigeon]

I mean hub thought 550 was reasonable

[elfin mural]

let's just wait until amd realizes they have fumbled and barely get any sales

because the 5070ti got a chokehold on it

[devout forum]

Cuz at 700
The XT would still be okay value

Not great but at least not terrible

[wise wigeon]

For current market

[devout forum]

But an MSRP of 700 means street price of 900

And at 900 the XT is practically a waste of silicon to me

[wise wigeon]

In general it’s a worse value than a msrp 70 ti

[elfin mural]

once 5070ti returns to msrp (eventually)

the 9070xt is cooked

[devout forum]

AMD as a whole is cooked

At this point, there's no hope left

Single-digit market share come here

[wise wigeon]

Like I’m ok with the xtx but if I’m able to get like a 70 ti at msrp to 800 I’m willing to return

[elfin mural]

no one cares about radeon if it costs the same as its competitor

more vram? sure, good, but they will buy nvidia regardless

[devout forum]

It's joever

[wise wigeon]

Not even though

[elfin mural]

compared to 5070ti i think

[devout forum]

Radeon is done for

[wise wigeon]

Ti has 16

[devout forum]

At this point it's over

There's no point for hype anymore

[elfin mural]

...oh

[wise wigeon]

Ok doomposting is crazy

[elfin mural]

it's over

[balmy solstice]

what about when there's a surplus vs a shortage when it comes to Radeon and nvidia

[elfin mural]

so over

[balmy solstice]

well, a supposed self created shortage

[elfin mural]

amd knows they can get away with this shortage thing

[wise wigeon]

Just means they get early sales but when stock normalizes they’ll get overtaken

[devout forum]

AMD managed to somehow screw up so monumentally that there's nothing short it nGreedAI getting slapped with a billions-large class action over the 50 series to save AMDone

[elfin mural]

but when stock normalizes and 9070xt remains 699

and when nvidia stabilizes

[devout forum]

It's legitimately impressive how big a fumble this is

[elfin mural]

people will happy pay the extra $50 to get the nvidia

[wise wigeon]

AMD has to shave off another $50 in discounts in the first three months

[devout forum]

50?

Nah

Try 150

[wise wigeon]

First 3 months

[devout forum]

50 bucks over 3 months is nothing

50 bucks in the first month MIGHT make a difference

[wise wigeon]

An almost 20% discount so soon is gonna piss off aibs

[devout forum]

At this point the AIBs won't have a partner to buy chips from

Because AMD is done

[mortal grail]

Are we doomposting again

[elfin mural]

i don't think amd is done

[mortal grail]

[elfin mural]

it's just gonna be a moment for amd to go

[wise wigeon]

They’re going kinda crazy with the doom posting

[elfin mural]

"oh! let's dump the prices!"

[devout forum]

AMD is doing the same thing again tho

[elfin mural]

which is a great thing

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpsons-end-of-the-world-end-is-near-gif-16593998

[elfin mural]

just funny lol

[balmy solstice]

they just need to chop the 9070 and come up with a better gpu. we know they can

[wise wigeon]

Let’s just wait a day and see if they took any feedback from creators

[elfin mural]

wait a few months and prices will be what we want

[devout forum]

Way too high launch prices leading to middling reviews meaning nobody will care to buy them anyway

[balmy solstice]

if it had 20gb vram or more, it'd be worth buying

[devout forum]

It's 16

[elfin mural]

xtx was eeeehhh value at launch

[balmy solstice]

yeah that's what I'm saying

[devout forum]

Arguably a regression

[mortal grail]

Have fun guys I'm going to watch a movie

[wise wigeon]

Like the 7900xt at 900

[elfin mural]

sales made it good to buy

[tranquil pebble]

maybe

[wise wigeon]

It was fine

[balmy solstice]

damn, bought mine last year for 699

[elfin mural]

fine is the right word to put it

[wise wigeon]

It was $200 cheaper than its competitor

[devout forum]

I no longer believe AMD actually intends to make competition

[elfin mural]

24gb vram is nice

for what was 1k at launch

[devout forum]

9070 series was literally getting a win offered on a silver platter

And AMD somehow manages to turn it into a disappointment

[elfin mural]

tbh all companies do is make money

can't blame em

they're not charities

[wise wigeon]

Yeah it was only 100 dollars cheaper than the xtx

[balmy solstice]

just bag chasing tactics

[elfin mural]

amd will exploit anything it can

act like the hero when they see it's not working

[devout forum]

So you sell a significantly inferior product at prices that don't reflect that inferiority while also not having the market share to have leverage?

[elfin mural]

so is intel and nvidia really

[balmy solstice]

I shoulda probably got an xtx but it was my first pc build

[devout forum]

That just sounds like trying to kill a company

[wise wigeon]

The 7900xt was def priced that way to incentivize spending the extra 100 for the xtx

[elfin mural]

yes, but there's the option of price dumping

[devout forum]

It won't matter th9

The damage will be done day 1

[elfin mural]

it's always worked for amd

[balmy solstice]

wonder if Microsoft will start making gpu's

[elfin mural]

i don't see why this wouldn't work

for the 100th time or whatever

[devout forum]

Imagine if Microsoft buys Radeon

[wise wigeon]

They can barely get any hardware right

[pliant berry]

We don’t need Microsoft to make gpus

[elfin mural]

it's something called pushing the envelope then dialing it back

not good long term

but it is reality

[wise wigeon]

They about to ask us to upgrade while we install drivers

[balmy solstice]

Microsoft staying soft

maybe they'll do good with the quantum chip they made

[devout forum]

Imagine it being called Macrohard

[wise wigeon]

It’s why they lose every generation

[devout forum]

:3

[elfin mural]

majorana chip

kinda silly name

[tranquil pebble]

Microsoft Office vs Macrohard Onfire

[wise wigeon]

Like I genuinely dunno how they lost the ps3 generation

[balmy solstice]

with this treasure I summon 🫰 majorana

[elfin mural]

hand

[tranquil pebble]

the rrod issues did not help

[wise wigeon]

Anyway let’s hope Asus took the hint on the 1 k 70 it’s

[balmy solstice]

they put all their budget into halo 3 odst

[wise wigeon]

True

[elfin mural]

but wait

[balmy solstice]

keith david isn't cheap

[elfin mural]

the ROPs mishap might dent nvidia's sales hopefully

[wise wigeon]

Remember when people were popping their 360s in the oven?

[elfin mural]

imagine losing 8%+ perf

because you got unlucky and got a bad bin

[balmy solstice]

ngl I should've invested some money in nvidia

[wise wigeon]

I mean I assume they’ll let you rma for those lol

[elfin mural]

nvidia before the ai bubble

[wise wigeon]

But yes very unlucky

[elfin mural]

but will you get a replacement card?

that's the question

[balmy solstice]

then I'd have enough to buy an ebay 5090

[elfin mural]

will they just refund you

and leave you 50 series gpu-less

[wise wigeon]

Depends on you going through vendor or manu

[elfin mural]

fair

[wise wigeon]

Vendor probably refund

[elfin mural]

i can't imagine how much of a pain it'll be to only get a refund

[wise wigeon]

If no stock is available

[balmy solstice]

manu gonna send you the missing parts and gonna tell you how to put it together yourself

[wise wigeon]

Still I don’t see it hurting Nvidia that bad in the long run unfortunately

[elfin mural]

sends you only the chip

good luck soldering it on

[devout forum]

It'd be really funny if then they turn around and sell the same GPU as new again

[elfin mural]

they def will

i bet

[devout forum]

With like a 10 dollar discount

[elfin mural]

it's still functional

or "refurbished"

aka returned and resealed

[wise wigeon]

Makes me wonder how best buy is gonna sell that xtx I returned

[devout forum]

Used 50 series market is gonna be even worse than used 40 series/used 13/14th gen

[elfin mural]

vendors or manus often use refurbished or open box stamp

[wise wigeon]

Idk how easy it is to unmangle three dp ports

[elfin mural]

on returned but fully functional stuff

so..

[wise wigeon]

Well it’s functional

But

[elfin mural]

yikes for the refurb market on 50 series in the future

[devout forum]

They can most definitely solder on new ones

[elfin mural]

or them open boxes

[devout forum]

If the port itself is damaged

[elfin mural]

they'll just replace the ports

[wise wigeon]

Probably

[devout forum]

An hour work with a soldering iron probs

[elfin mural]

gotta do whatever it takes to resell yknow

minimize losses

[devout forum]

Or just put it through a machine at the factory

[wise wigeon]

I mean the port was functional it was just hard to take in and out

[devout forum]

Ah

Then just

Slap a discount on it and send it

[elfin mural]

for $100 less

[wise wigeon]

But I payed msrp for it so I’m not getting a damaged product

[devout forum]

That's fair

[elfin mural]

valid

i'd be upset too if my brand new gpu came with a defect

[wise wigeon]

I mean the io shield was bent too

[devout forum]

Wack

[wise wigeon]

Which probably cause the display port deformations

[devout forum]

Possible

Still, a fairly easy fix for the manu

[wise wigeon]

But it also prevented me from installing the support bracket correctly

[devout forum]

Got spare parts and spare ports
Take it apart, get the connectors off if need be, solder on new connectors if you have to, new IO shield, package and go

[elfin mural]

hm

$600 microcenter 7800x3d board and ram combo

yay or nay?

[wise wigeon]

Thing is whether Best Buy or manu care enough

[devout forum]

I say yay

[elfin mural]

i think so too

[devout forum]

I'd do unspeakable things for that

[tranquil pebble]

Arch Linux says yay too

[elfin mural]

ofc ram is gskill ddr5

$10 "upgrade" to coarse hair vengeance

[devout forum]

Is it at least guaranteed Hynix range?

[wise wigeon]

Wasn’t there like 700 dollars like 9800x3d bundles with a ssd too?

[elfin mural]

lemme see

[devout forum]

If it is
I'd 100% say yes

[wise wigeon]

Might have had doodoo ram

[storm narwhal]

Ah, coarse hair ram 👍

[elfin mural]

it's the 6000 kit

sounds like hynix

cl32

[storm narwhal]

Is it actually any good

Corsair ram has always been terrible

[elfin mural]

forces me to see store

im not in america

xd

[fierce grove]

hello people

good morning

[elfin mural]

but you can ask for the vengeance kit

for extra 10

[fierce grove]

vengeance kit more like poo poo kit

[devout forum]

6000 CL32 isn't guaranteed Hynix iirc

But it's likely to be

[elfin mural]

sad

[fierce grove]

what’s hynix

[elfin mural]

well 599 is still yay

[devout forum]

I know 6000CL30 is guaranteed Hynix

[devout forum]

Memory chip manufacturer, one of the 2 that makes DDR5 memory chips

[wise wigeon]

Tuf motherboard is ugly as sin though

[devout forum]

Their memory chips overclock wonderfully so they're just the better choice

[elfin mural]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/668529/powerspec-g235-gaming-pc

this is.. not too bad ig

as far as prebuilts go

#windowshopping

[fierce grove]

i thought there’s thousands, so what you’re saying, for the most part every brand is just a name attached to it, nothing actually special?

[wise wigeon]

Msi has multiple mobo bundles

https://us-store.msi.com/B650-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

Like this

Has the 9800x3d at 430

And you can add a 2 tab nvme for 75

[fierce grove]

ooooo good deal

[elfin mural]

you don't get ram

but fair

9800x3d is better

[wise wigeon]

Pick a ram kit you like

With the ssd added it’s 655

Cl30 6000 is like 80-90 bucks

Without the ssd it’s. 580

There is cheaper and more expensive mobos

Like a x670e

[elfin mural]

im jealous of how cheap 4050 laptops get in the US rn

[wise wigeon]

I mean

You can get a 4070 sub 1k

[elfin mural]

650 gets you competent cpu

and enough ram

not terrible amount of ssd storage either

ofc if you splurge 1k you can get 4070 easily

[wise wigeon]

Think I saw a 900 Lenovo 4070 laptop

[elfin mural]

zeph g16 is 1079 rn

at best buy

with 4070

[tranquil pebble]

650 is roughly what I paid for mobo + 9800x3d

a solid purchase IMO

[fierce grove]

chat where do i get cheap asf pc parts

refurbished

[devout forum]

Ebay

[opaque sedge]

Bruh effing amazon is edging me

[fresh timber]

You ordered something with long shipping lol

[unreal trail]

my drill press is arriving today

[unreal trail]

probably being handed off to USPS

[misty sparrow]

I’d go pick it up myself

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-running-car-gif-26206055

[mental yoke]

carriers make it so difficult to do this lately

[devout forum]

I don't think it's worth the double price

[fresh timber]

That’s not double

Closer to. 80%

[devout forum]

same thing

[misty sparrow]

“Ft”? Never heard of that currency

Oh it’s Hungarian

[fierce grove]

@devout forum thanks for helping me the other day gangy

i’m bouta have a fire asf pc

my dad gonna buy it for me

[devout forum]

no biggie

[fierce grove]

bro my mom went on a site called dealmoon.com and got me an alienware

which is what i currrnyly use

LOL

it’s not even that bad but it blue screens all the time

and the cost of the parts are like $500, and she paid $2500

[rough zinc]

Bro got the temu special pc

[pliant berry]

Yikes

[icy ore]

Oof

[misty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/134286179121102848/1332490340438904933/thermal-paste-mother-board-4098817493.gif

[misty sparrow]

hm I guess nobody is here

[last mango]

100000 Foots

[velvet summit]

Feet toes

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/bobs-burgers-tina-bobsburgers-louise-gif-18206726

[fresh timber]

Anybody get banned for being underage 😭😭

[velvet summit]

Yo mama underage

[rigid sinew]

good morning everyone

[mental yoke]

Hey tuhlay

[rigid sinew]

hey phor

[mental yoke]

Phor favor

[sage sluice]

hosph

[velvet summit]

Lou

https://tenor.com/view/lou-death-stranding-three-signs-icg3s-gif-26413155

[mental yoke]

Parochial

[sage sluice]

why is the mutant baby in the container

[mental yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-catlover-hi-wave-catlover-serra-news-network-gif-5471761269701761220

[sage sluice]

hi balou

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fsr-4-coming-to-30-games-at-launch-heres-the-list

[sage sluice]

image

[velvet summit]

That is lou

[sage sluice]

any mention of fsr4 support for 7000 series down?

[rancid juniper]

no

[sage sluice]

rip

[mental yoke]

Postpartum depression goes crazy in mutants

[sage sluice]

phosphartum

[mental yoke]

Phos fart on em

[sage sluice]

dont do it

i beg of you

[mental yoke]

Idk dudd

I'm thinking

[sage sluice]

phospharter wants to go to the loo

[mental yoke]

Of doing it

[rancid juniper]

LMFAO shots fired https://videocardz.com/newz/system-integrator-launches-rop-guarantee-program-for-all-geforce-rtx-50-cards-before-shipping

[sage sluice]

omg

[velvet summit]

Wtf

[sage sluice]

its like a slap in the face

that still makes nvidia money

[velvet summit]

Cyberpower will do customer service?

[sage sluice]

i thought about that too

[velvet summit]

Unheard of

[sage sluice]

the same company who cant even turn xmp on

[dusk knot]

Very kind of them

[sage sluice]

im sure its because of the good will in their hearts and not because it means people will be more likely to buy from em

(it is in fact not from the good will of their hearts)

[opaque sedge]

Just picked these up from costco b&w px7 s2 super nice for one fitty ngl

[velvet summit]

Certainly this "premium experience" doesn't cost more

[dusk knot]

🤔

[sage sluice]

thats a weird looking b&w

[mental yoke]

It's like a slap on the waist

[opaque sedge]

Ignore the dirty table mat i just devoured a massive chimichanga

[sage sluice]

ill devour you

[opaque sedge]

Slap on the ass

[mental yoke]

HOW CAN YOU CUSS AND I CANT

[sage sluice]

ass

[opaque sedge]

We aint like that dawg

[sage sluice]

damn

[velvet summit]

You're a cuss

[opaque sedge]

Cuz ur an ass

[sage sluice]

cuss you mothercusser

[opaque sedge]

Get it

[rancid juniper]

absolutely, more rep to cyberpower pc lol

[mental yoke]

Ass

OH

[sage sluice]

motor says the same thing yet he's still my girlfriend

[mental yoke]

I GOT THE ABILITY

[opaque sedge]

Grammar aint grammaring

[mental yoke]

This is a new revolution you all will regret

😈

[sage sluice]

he is my girlfriend

[rancid juniper]

english

[sage sluice]

it is as simple as that

[rancid juniper]

engrish

[sage sluice]

englisch

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[opaque sedge]

Ja

[frigid stag]

Sorry my england isn’t that good

[sage sluice]

englisch ist nicht meine muttersprache

[opaque sedge]

[frigid stag]

I selled my wife for internet connection

To play counter strik

[craggy shoal]

mood

[opaque sedge]

Wdym?

[sage sluice]

where the wheels at

[craggy shoal]

Headphones have wheels?

[opaque sedge]

Think it was a pun at bmw

[sage sluice]

silly motor

it was lol

[craggy shoal]

ya know what?

[sage sluice]

perish

[opaque sedge]

Just like bmws

[craggy shoal]

Your moms

[opaque sedge]

[craggy shoal]

Suffer

[frigid stag]

That was targeted

[sage sluice]

i already do, i went to sleep at 4 30 and woke up at 6

[opaque sedge]

Fr

[sage sluice]

motor isnt a bmw because hes my girlfriend

[opaque sedge]

@craggy shoal

[sage sluice]

bro resent his joke and pinged the victim

[opaque sedge]

I’ll ping ur mom

Wait

Ping doesn’t imply anything inappropriate right

[frigid stag]

What if it does

🤨

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting-3-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepemeeting-gif-3714368513695129278

[sage sluice]

dont feed his nefariously whimsical nature

[dusk knot]

Good

[opaque sedge]

Nefarious…

[craggy shoal]

TV AHHHHH (feat. my pure bread GSP, Gunther)

[opaque sedge]

I was nefarious with your…

Nah imma not proceed

[opaque sedge]

Miniled… noice

[craggy shoal]

Probably the nicest TV in the house lol

[velvet summit]

Do not the meat

[sage sluice]

with my what

too scared too finish that sentence?

worried of the whimsical hammer of justice?

just deez?

[craggy shoal]

nefarious with your deez

Just deez

No nuts

[opaque sedge]

WITH YOUR MOM

[sage sluice]

banned

elimination

[opaque sedge]

Dude… you were asking for it

[sage sluice]

/ timeout user:SoreFingerTips duration:forever reason:deez

[craggy shoal]

sudo rm -fr /*