general-chat

[wise wigeon]

think there was a walmart post recently about a 99 dollar 7800x3d

[hoary zodiac]

Aren't the vrms on strix kinda mid?

[idle nexus]

lol how to fix 13th gen instability issues

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's $55 so 🤷‍♂️

[idle nexus]

imagine getting an i9 that can't OC

[lone mango]

Not really but basically the more the better

[idle nexus]

it's like getting a Ferrari with a 4 cylinder or something

[hoary zodiac]

Is it worth overclocking tho?

[fresh timber]

whcih one would yall get if u just need ram channels, and ability to potentionly upgrade networking to someting like 10gig

[lone mango]

Not always true depending on board design but you can get away with that sentiment

[wise wigeon]

kinda wild that intel took so long to allow OC on b boards

[lone mango]

When did this happen

[idle nexus]

usually you have to get a pretty low tier motherboard to worry about VRMs from what I understand

[fresh timber]

ultra lets it happen?

[wise wigeon]

ah i was mistaken

[idle nexus]

lol fr. 3000rpm max

[wise wigeon]

itsram OC

not cpu OC

[idle nexus]

for sure but usually they're really overbuilt it seems

[wise wigeon]

wow they still limit it to z boards huh

[idle nexus]

ya non-K will likely have System Agent voltage locked

or is it IMC VDD I forget

I think it's SA

[wise wigeon]

i mean honestly most people aint touching OCs

[idle nexus]

it's funny cuz higher end boards will have clock gen

[wise wigeon]

and generally they are cheaper

[idle nexus]

will limit memory frequency for sure

[wise wigeon]

honestly

[hoary zodiac]

Oh shoot

[wise wigeon]

the need for f cpus is just kinda pointless imo

[hoary zodiac]

That strix is actually really solid

That's a steal for $55

According to the LTT spreadsheet

[wise wigeon]

what strix

[hoary zodiac]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

[idle nexus]

clockgen I ran G7400 at 4.6ghz 7020c32 memory lol

[hoary zodiac]

The one ggood linked

[idle nexus]

ya that was a steal at that price ngl

I had that B550 Strix

[hoary zodiac]

That's like a top tier board for $55

[idle nexus]

it's in my dad's build

[wise wigeon]

damn that is crazy

[hoary zodiac]

You can have a decked out 5700X3D

[wise wigeon]

plus its am4

[hoary zodiac]

Top end gaming pc

[wise wigeon]

no bent pins to worry about

[hoary zodiac]

In a $55 motherboard

[idle nexus]

shopgoodwill roll the dice

[hoary zodiac]

Literally one of the best motherboards you can get for AM4

And I mean AM4

Not just for B550

[wise wigeon]

the tomohawk returns with a vengence

[hoary zodiac]

One of the BEST AM4 boards

[wise wigeon]

why do they look spray painted

[hoary zodiac]

And it's $55

[idle nexus]

the first board I ever got was a Z490 Tomahawk

[worn wave]

when was this a thing lol

[idle nexus]

I loaded my 10900K in wrong & bent most of the pins in the socket

[hoary zodiac]

Like it's insane

[idle nexus]

glad Amazon's return policy is so chill

[hoary zodiac]

Woot.com

[wise wigeon]

less so now

[worn wave]

ah i see

[idle nexus]

https://www.woot.com/category/computers/computer-parts-components?ref=w_cnt_cdet_pc_6

[wise wigeon]

think someone said theyre stingy over cpus now

[hoary zodiac]

Like

[idle nexus]

well the 10900K was fine

the board was a total loss lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I cannot emphasise how good of a deal this is

[wise wigeon]

thank god

[hoary zodiac]

This is a top tier board

[wise wigeon]

my first intel board had like 2

[idle nexus]

dude woot is one of those website to just check randomly

[hoary zodiac]

It has all the pcie lanes you'll need

It's literally a high end board for dirt cheap

[wise wigeon]

yeah unlucky you missed it

[hoary zodiac]

Like you can't even dream of something like this a couple years ago

Modern chipsets are so good

[idle nexus]

I got my son's PC case on woot

[hoary zodiac]

You can have a feature packed board for this cheap

[idle nexus]

that Corsair one that was popular eh

5000D

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how the budget market is going to be in several years

When AM4 gets really cheap

[idle nexus]

my son's PC is my old 5900x & a 2080ti

[hoary zodiac]

Because these newer zen cpus and motherboards are so packed

Even the cheap ones

[idle nexus]

he's running 3800c14 DR bdie & it's all watercooled lol

[gentle canyon]

speaking of am4 what are all of the am4 X3D chips? is it just the 57/5800X3D?

[hoary zodiac]

Is the 5600X3D a thing?

[gentle canyon]

ik the 7600X3D is

[idle nexus]

this was a tease cuz I was like, "holy crap is that a tachyon??" but no. no it's not https://computers.woot.com/offers/gigabyte-x670e-aorus-master-amd-am5-atx-motherboard-4x-ddr5?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_6_14

[worn wave]

yeah

[idle nexus]

5700X3D is pretty legit

[worn wave]

lot less of them out there than 5700x3d though

[idle nexus]

isn't 5600X3D a microcenter exclusive?

[wise wigeon]

i think?

[worn wave]

mighta been

[gentle canyon]

if the 7600x3d is id assume the 5600x3d is

[hoary zodiac]

Why is it $579

That's like the price of an AM5 board

[wise wigeon]

at least in the US the x600x3ds have been microcenter only

[idle nexus]

ya there's only like 1000 more 5600X3Ds in the world than there are 5090s

[hoary zodiac]

Oh wait it is am5

[wise wigeon]

meanwhile europe just has em

[hoary zodiac]

Derp

[wise wigeon]

yes

[idle nexus]

there's a 7600X3D I think? I forget

[fresh timber]

ugh

[wise wigeon]

yes

microcenter only for the states

[hoary zodiac]

AYOOO

[wise wigeon]

think they ran out

[hoary zodiac]

UPS???

[gentle canyon]

i just checked both are microcenter exclusives I believe

[fresh timber]

i wonder how fast a 5950x would cook these vrms

[gentle canyon]

56/76x3d

[idle nexus]

I think this is missing heatsinks for M.2 & it's untested but it's also at $15 with just less than 2 days left https://shopgoodwill.com/item/223174278

[wise wigeon]

havent seen it in stock alone or in bundles since the holidays

[hoary zodiac]

The annoying thing is that I'm in Australia

[gentle canyon]

i might get a 5600x3d mobo combo from my microcenter and upgrade my sister's pc for her so she is set

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-slam-slam-desk-desk-slam-xqc-slam-gif-19145485

[lone mango]

5950x doesnt use a crazy amount of power so it might not be that bad

[hoary zodiac]

I'd build a whole pc

If I wasn't

[gentle canyon]

she is using my cyberpower prebuilt from a few years back

[wise wigeon]

yours still has em?

[hoary zodiac]

And then flip it

[idle nexus]

I wanna get a 5700X3D for my son's PC eventually

[fresh timber]

its like what? 150w or something

[gentle canyon]

uh idk i guess I should look lol

[lone mango]

i think so maybe a little more

give or take

[gentle canyon]

i figured it was still a relevant thing

[lone mango]

pretty crazy ngl

[idle nexus]

or maybe just give him the 12900K build... but I want the case & I don't feel like redoing that damn loop again

[wise wigeon]

i dont even see 7600x3ds anymore let alone 5600x3d

[worn wave]

if not, a 5700x3d from aliexpress is also a good drop-in upgrade for an am4 board

[wise wigeon]

werent they like $200 alone anyway

[fresh timber]

i think ill go b550m, better pcie

[wise wigeon]

cyberpower doesnt have oem mobos does it?

[idle nexus]

before the 5900x/2080ti, I put together 13600K/3070

[fresh timber]

:)) when i get a job you know what im doing

[idle nexus]

I was playing PalWorld with him & it kept crashing

[gentle canyon]

👀

[fresh timber]

5900xt and 128gb ram go brrrrt

[idle nexus]

pain in my butt

[fresh timber]

gimmie

[gentle canyon]

250 is kinda steep

[wise wigeon]

lil high

[gentle canyon]

id prob just get her a new mobo and ram at that point ngl

[wise wigeon]

swear it was barely over 200 a month or 2 ago

[worn wave]

nahhhhh

[wise wigeon]

and if you're ok with ali you can prob still get em sub 200

[gentle canyon]

pretty sure the prebuilt I had that she uses now has a 2300x in it

[wise wigeon]

but they used to be like 125-150

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[gentle canyon]

i actually have the link of my prebuilt somewhere let me find it

[hoary zodiac]

2300x to 5700X3D is massive

[gentle canyon]

it was this its one of my bookmarks lol

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-3-2300x-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-570-1tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362425.p?skuId=6362425

[hoary zodiac]

Honestly $250 isn't bad

[wise wigeon]

jeez

[fresh timber]

money 😦

[gentle canyon]

was my first pc in 2019 i used for like 5 years

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't trust those vrms

Damn

[fresh timber]

what ru talking about

[hoary zodiac]

Psu too

[gentle canyon]

i slapped my 6700 XT in there lol

[fresh timber]

HELL No

HELL NO

[lone mango]

Used to be cheaper

[worn wave]

wait why are the Aliexpress 5700x3ds so expensive rn lol

[fresh timber]

I JUST UPGRADED MY SERVER FROM A 2300X, ITS SO BAD

DO NOT GET A 2300x

[hoary zodiac]

I don't trust those psus unless they use quality oems

A lot of these prebuilts use cheap off the shelf psus

[lone mango]

Like 220 a day or two ago but a couple months ago the 5700x3d was even cheaper

[gentle canyon]

it was my first pc when I was 14 chill out

[fresh timber]

ItS 4 CORES 4 THREAD Piece of trash

[gentle canyon]

my sister uses it

[fresh timber]

im so sorry for her

[gentle canyon]

it did me solid for many years

[wise wigeon]

apparently according to random reddit user it has a A320m hdv r4.0

[hoary zodiac]

What is he saying

[gentle canyon]

i gave her a free pc?

[fresh timber]

..

[lone mango]

7600x went from 180 to 200 at micro center

[fresh timber]

i think we got our stuff from the same

[wise wigeon]

i would prob get a new board

[fresh timber]

hey thats the board i use

and it came with the 2300x

[hoary zodiac]

Those vrms probably can't handle an X3D

[fresh timber]

:0

yeah it can

[hoary zodiac]

Or any R7 really

[wise wigeon]

a 100 dollar board will

[fresh timber]

a320m hdv r4.0 supports a 105w cpus

x3d should be fine

[hoary zodiac]

I mean modern B450/B550s are quite cheap these days

Especially if you get them used

[gentle canyon]

5700x3D and a 6700 XT would be a good pairing right

[hoary zodiac]

AM4 is looking pretty sweet

[fresh timber]

buy her free 5500 trust

[gentle canyon]

i dont have a problem buying new btw

[hoary zodiac]

It'd be a pretty good build even by 2025 standards

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah but just saying with AM4 the used market is a bit larger

[gentle canyon]

yeah thats something I honestly dont have an interest in doing

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that's fair

[worn wave]

better to go 7500F/7600x for a new build though

[hoary zodiac]

New boards aren't too expensive anyways

[wise wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KxFbt6/gigabyte-b550-gaming-x-v2-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-gaming-x-v2

[hoary zodiac]

This tbh

[wise wigeon]

?

[hoary zodiac]

Might cost around the same

Even accounting for ddr5

[wise wigeon]

would be

[gentle canyon]

id throw it all into my white montech case for her it would match her desk

[wise wigeon]

7600 is 180 rn

and a pro rs is 130

[hoary zodiac]

Some of the new B850 boards are pretty baller for $~140

[fresh timber]

ugh thats so appealing to me

[hoary zodiac]

This actually

[gentle canyon]

id give her my 7600 honestly if zen 6 was a thing rn

[wise wigeon]

and if she needs wifi its another 10 dollars

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah but here's the thing

[wise wigeon]

i mean 7500f if you wanna hop on ali

[worn wave]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805676873344.html

[hoary zodiac]

It might cost the same to go zen 4 anyways

[fresh timber]

no more 8 core cpus?

[hoary zodiac]

Compared to X3D

[gentle canyon]

that board is obnoxious lol

[hoary zodiac]

Since you'll need a new board anyways

If you can find the exact motherboard model

[wise wigeon]

its so ugly

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe we can figure out if you could do a pure cpu upgrade

[idle nexus]

heck I really didn't take a picture of my son's finished PC? so unlike me

[lone mango]

Probably but at the lower end

[fresh timber]

ryzen 7 now a 12cor cpu

[gentle canyon]

if im putting it into a new case im considering a new psu/ram

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

ok you might as well go am5 tbh

[wise wigeon]

thats fine

ddr5 is cheap now

[hoary zodiac]

it actually might end up costing around the same

[fresh timber]

welp im not buyng the msi b550m

[lone mango]

Yeah I remember we were talking about zen 6 a while ago but they are able to get away with it because of the node shrink

[wise wigeon]

you look on wegg?

[fresh timber]

hell no march 4

[fresh timber]

cost more

[wise wigeon]

unlucky

[lone mango]

As a matter of fact the zen 5 chiplets are already smaller

[gentle canyon]

let me see what combo deals my microcenter has

[wise wigeon]

eh the 7600 combos are kinda meh

the mobos are not great

[lone mango]

When the next node comes in then the current arch would be even smaller, so you can make it the same size by adding more cores

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/48cG3C/asus-prime-b550m-a-ac-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b550m-a-ac this moherboard seems good too

[hoary zodiac]

zen 5 is great... at least for X3Ds

[idle nexus]

I took a picture while building it but not finished

[hoary zodiac]

Ryzen 9000 in general is mid as hell but the X3Ds are really nice

[wise wigeon]

thats the cheaper one

but the ram is cl 36 iirc

[lone mango]

Its weird man I see some configs show gains but techtubers show pretty small gains

[hoary zodiac]

PFFFFFFFFFFF

[idle nexus]

the 2080ti block was so dirty

Fitz Polish ftwww

[hoary zodiac]

depends on use case really

[lone mango]

tpu also showed that it had gains too

[wise wigeon]

yeah 6000 cl 36

[lone mango]

Some games it actually is faster

[hoary zodiac]

the 9800X3D is worth it if you're upgrading from an older cpu

say a 5700X

[wise wigeon]

unless you can get the 7800x3d cheaer

[gentle canyon]

i want to put my 6950 XT on water so bad but custom loops scare me

also money lol

[wise wigeon]

but significantly cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

imo the X3Ds are really overpriced atm

[fresh timber]

this has the fastest shippin, i guess i know what im getting now

[wise wigeon]

not like 30 bucks

[hoary zodiac]

even the 7800X3D is still pretty pricey

[idle nexus]

I'm using 2x32gb 5600c46-46-46 RAM at 6200c28. Adie is dirt cheap

[lone mango]

I thought about getting a 9600x from a 5600

That would be huge

[wise wigeon]

my walmart has had a 7800x3d chillin for 399 for like a month

[hoary zodiac]

not bad

[idle nexus]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGWFYBXB?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1

$75/DIMM

already delidded EZ

[wise wigeon]

yeah if i hadn't already got the 9800x3d i woulda got it

[hoary zodiac]

are you overclocking these

[wise wigeon]

less power draw

[idle nexus]

heck ya

I use them for daily

[hoary zodiac]

how does your config work

do you slap on a heatsink?

[idle nexus]

waterblock lol

[hoary zodiac]

are these top bins?

[wise wigeon]

idk if galv wants to go through that to just upgrade their sisters pc

[idle nexus]

but you can run higher tCL & not need cooling

lol no they're junk

[hoary zodiac]

oh

[idle nexus]

5600c46 is like the lowest Adie afik

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

so they just run cool

[idle nexus]

64gb for like $150

[hoary zodiac]

wait

C28

[idle nexus]

last time I bought a 64gb kit it was over $300

[hoary zodiac]

👀

[wise wigeon]

what is microcenters obsession with thrying to sell you tuf boards

[idle nexus]

for DDR4

[hoary zodiac]

that's especially good considering how like

[wise wigeon]

do they sell that badly?

[hoary zodiac]

four slot shenanigans

I want 64GB of ram now

[lone mango]

[idle nexus]

I have a 2x16gb TeamGroup Adie kit

that's also 5600c46-46

in my bench setup rn

it ran at 8200c34 through ycruncher lol

[hoary zodiac]

I thought Ryzen doesn't like fast memory

[idle nexus]

now it wouldn't be daily stable without a lot of testing to get it right

[wise wigeon]

last year this was like 450

[idle nexus]

oh ya this is on 13900KS sorry

[hoary zodiac]

ohhh

I see

[idle nexus]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPHRVYX9?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_2&th=1

[fresh timber]

ggood, do i really value dual channel at $80-100

[hoary zodiac]

oh shoot it's these ones

[fresh timber]

or stay single channel 16gb sticky

[hoary zodiac]

I love the look

[idle nexus]

$79 for 2x16gb Adie that'll run 8200 lol

[wise wigeon]

what the gun look?

[lone mango]

If you do that you dont need a new board

More money saved

[fresh timber]

excatl! and it cost less

[hoary zodiac]

the ram

[wise wigeon]

yeah of the ram

[idle nexus]

dual channel is worth it ya

[lone mango]

Not gaming tho

[idle nexus]

you're better off getting a 2x8 super cheap kit

[hoary zodiac]

It looks sleek

almost industrial

[gentle canyon]

thats the bundle my friend got when we went and built his pc last summer

[fresh timber]

ram channel dead cant

[idle nexus]

lol get the $15 goodwill board

[wise wigeon]

oh it looks like a gun slide to me

[fresh timber]

its new motherboard for 80-100 or a single 16gb ram stick for $20

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

[gentle canyon]

i got them to price match the 4080 super so he paid like 950 for the 4080s i think

[wise wigeon]

does it not?

[fresh timber]

i am not doing goodwill motherboard kek

[idle nexus]

I gave someone my 4400c19-19-19-39 bdie Vipers

[fresh timber]

we should be best friends

[idle nexus]

sucks cuz I had the number one ycruncher for 5900x for like a year with those things

[wise wigeon]

pew pew

[idle nexus]

that actually came out really well lmao

[wise wigeon]

yeah hard to do on a mouse ngl

[hoary zodiac]

man it looks like a transformer

[wise wigeon]

i mean megatron was a gun in g1

[idle nexus]

whenever I try to draw something, I miss my stupid rollerball mouse

RIP MX Ergo. Gone but not forgotten

[fresh timber]

im bored, ima just buy the cheapest motherboard and cope

[gentle canyon]

viper is a cool transformer name too unless that name was someone already

[wise wigeon]

lines came out more smooth on snipper than they do in paint lol

[hoary zodiac]

I want one of those logitech mouses

those office mice with unified receivers

[wise wigeon]

ergo or ball

[idle nexus]

the MX Ergo?

or MX Master?

[hoary zodiac]

oh no just the professional workflow ones

the ones that can pair to multiple receivers

[idle nexus]

they're nice but polling rate sucks from what I understand

[hoary zodiac]

it's annoying having to switch adapters

[wise wigeon]

that seems almost annoying

[idle nexus]

the MX Ergo could swap between systems with 2.4 receiver & bluetooth

[wise wigeon]

like is there a button to swap recievers?

[idle nexus]

& the button was like right below the scroll wheel

[hoary zodiac]

my M720's rubber is screwed up

[idle nexus]

MX Ergo only did bluetooth & one receiver iirc

[hoary zodiac]

I still have the adapter tho

not sure if it works with other mice

[wise wigeon]

think most higher end mice do that now

i mean my budget keyboard and controller do

[idle nexus]

it was pretty convenient

you could just get a KVM tho

I have a little Sabrent one that does 4 systems

& has 4 USBs but they're only 2.0

[wise wigeon]

controller swaps to bluetooth for switch and 2.4 for pc

[hoary zodiac]

true

but I move my laptops around

soo

[wise wigeon]

very nice because otherwise i like the ps5 controller

[hoary zodiac]

the receiver solution is probably less hassle

[wise wigeon]

ps5 controller > xbox

[idle nexus]

ya & the bluetooth still lasts a loooong time

[gentle canyon]

im boutta buy one of these am5 bundles and steal the better proccessor and give my sister my 7600 lmao

[idle nexus]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RC8F2L3?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1

[wise wigeon]

what the 7800x3d?

[gentle canyon]

not sure, i dont think I can justify spending that much

[wise wigeon]

you know there was a group buy on wegg the other day for the 9800x3d in a mobo ram combo?

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it works until I have to take my laptop with me

[wise wigeon]

it was olike $700

[hoary zodiac]

if I do decide to bring my mouse

[wise wigeon]

not bad

[gentle canyon]

im saving my actual cpu uprade for zen 6

[hoary zodiac]

actually I don't have to bring my mouse...

[fresh timber]

i want one but it would be a networking nightmare

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

actually

[idle nexus]

buy it now refurb for $76 isn't terrible https://www.ebay.com/itm/196514247066?

[hoary zodiac]

do you know if there are any KVMs with HDMI ports as well?

[tranquil pebble]

I hope AMD puts out an x3d APU for handhelds lol

[fresh timber]

gigabit

[fresh timber]

doubt

[hoary zodiac]

at least for cheap

[fresh timber]

i d rather use that savings twords a better gpu

[idle nexus]

I hope there's cheaper lol https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Port-HDMI-KVM-Switch/dp/B09F3TBRNZ

[gentle canyon]

is that a mini itx board

[wise wigeon]

nope

m

= matx

[hoary zodiac]

holy jeebus

[idle nexus]

Ugreen used to make one apparently https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Computers-Keyboard-Controller-Included/dp/B0BD4KX6WC

[wise wigeon]

better than the 7600x bundle

[lone mango]

Yeah see the board extends out to the right a lot

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

speaking of ugreen

[wise wigeon]

but look at the ram

[hoary zodiac]

gonna look on aliexpress

[lone mango]

Its a large aqaure

so thats matx

[wise wigeon]

lookslike its still the 6000 cl 32

[idle nexus]

this one has DP https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Displayport-Support-Monitor-Keyboard/dp/B0CFFFHFJT?

[gentle canyon]

is it a single stick?

hold on thats weird

[wise wigeon]

oh it is

[lone mango]

Yeah the micro center bundle is a signle stick

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007078086433.html?

[wise wigeon]

thats prob why its cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

I found one on ali

[gentle canyon]

can i buy an identical 2nd stick

do they do that

microcenter

[wise wigeon]

the other bundles are 2 sticks

[hoary zodiac]

I would love a purely usb setup

but I don't think DP over USB KVMs are cheap

[wise wigeon]

by that i mean the 32 gb bundles

[idle nexus]

two computers sharing one monitor is $38 https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Monitor-Computers-Keyboard-Controller/dp/B0CG1W5K7C?

[wise wigeon]

wait

[lone mango]

You might be able to find a single stick in the store

[hoary zodiac]

has usb too?

that's pretty damn good

[hoary zodiac]

I'd prefer more but still

[wise wigeon]

same price

[lone mango]

Yup

[hoary zodiac]

for $34 that's not bad

[wise wigeon]

yeah no dont get the 9600x one

zen 5 uplift was like nothing

[hoary zodiac]

*Except X3D

[gentle canyon]

thats solid

[wise wigeon]

plus its full atx

[dense locust]

too bad they dont ship that bundle

[gentle canyon]

would be a shame if she got a 7600 instead of a 7700x lol

[dense locust]

i would buy it

[wise wigeon]

unless you dont want full atx

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[idle nexus]

ya you don't get that many usb ports with this one I think

[hoary zodiac]

honestly the gaming performance between the 7600 and 7700X isn't too big

[wise wigeon]

yeah but 32 vs 16 gb

[hoary zodiac]

ohhhhh

the whole bundle

I see now

[idle nexus]

what's that AM5 CPU on aliexpress that's for the low

[wise wigeon]

the 9600 and 7600 bundle is 1 stick

[hoary zodiac]

7500F

[idle nexus]

like 7500F or something seemingly odd

oh ya there you go lol

[hoary zodiac]

tariffs?

I'm slightly skeptical with aliexpress for US markets these days

[wise wigeon]

also the general price increase recently

[hoary zodiac]

yeah the economy is in the crapper

[wise wigeon]

when you have the 7500f lets just assume 150 for now

[idle nexus]

for just HDMI, it's only $12 lol https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Bi-Directional-Switcher-Splitter-Compatible/dp/B0CJM9X31Z?

[wise wigeon]

plus 130-140 for the pro rs

then 32 gb of ram for like 80?

[fresh timber]

with how much iv spent i could have upgraded my desktop to am5 kek

[wise wigeon]

its about the same price

[fresh timber]

im benchmarking

[wise wigeon]

and you have to worry more about the 7500f and the ship time is prob rather long

[idle nexus]

I dunno this brand but 3 USB 3.0 & HDMI for $35 https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-Computers-Switches-Devices-Support/dp/B0CFVBK4XQ?

Greathtek...? eh

[wise wigeon]

lol

[hoary zodiac]

yeah I think I have an idea

I might get my mum to buy it

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-16165693567743102551

[hoary zodiac]

she lives in Hong Kong

cheap tech

especially for stuff like this

the chinese ecommerce market is dangerously based

[wise wigeon]

reading that hurt me

[fresh timber]

im running 3d mark and holy this thing uses so little power

nvm its just a review thingy

but still my 13600kf would be using 50-80w rn doing the same thing kek

[wise wigeon]

is that like msrp of third party?

[fresh timber]

holy

only 12watts??

wtf

[lone mango]

On linux i have firefox, discord, and system monitor open and it still uses less ram than w11 on a fresh boot

[tranquil pebble]

probably not accurate readings lol

[fresh timber]

hw info accurate frfr

[lone mango]

Check adrenalin

[hoary zodiac]

same

[tranquil pebble]

I can load a StableDiffusion model and still be using less RAM that Windows 11 does idle

[fresh timber]

microsoft discord copes and claims allocation, my question is why does it need to allocate so much

[lone mango]

And im not even on endeavor rn

[wise wigeon]

i see a extreme and a see and apex but i dont see an apex exttreme, thing better have a waterblock at least if it is 1500

[hoary zodiac]

actually most of linux uses the same amount of ram

[fresh timber]

i have a ubuntu vm using 500mb rn

[lone mango]

Was it just a vm thing then

[fresh timber]

i wanna see windows try

[hoary zodiac]

so regardless of the distro you'd be using something very lightweight

relatively speaking

a riced debian install can be very light

[lone mango]

because endeavor was using 1.2g

[hoary zodiac]

hm?

might be the DE

what did you have open

[lone mango]

but i remember fedora using like 2.3

[hoary zodiac]

I'm using a WM so my ram usage is pretty minimal

probably difference in features enabled by default tbh

[fresh timber]

ugh

[hoary zodiac]

it's hard to make a 1-1 comparison unless you got the same packages

and config

[lone mango]

Damn i forgot to install endeavor on my laptop

[fresh timber]

i want to swap to linux but forntite man

[lone mango]

Just on a first boot

Like first time opening

[hoary zodiac]

same DE?

[lone mango]

fresh

Yeah all on kde

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[fresh timber]

@idle nexus https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/126567081?

[wise wigeon]

just cant find that specific model, i see an apex encore and i see an extreme but not an apex extreme

[lone mango]

What I should do is install endeavor on my laptop and see

[hoary zodiac]

might be a fluke

[gentle canyon]

actually that mobo wouldnt work my case id be swapping it to is microatx

[lone mango]

Probably

[wise wigeon]

unlucky

[fresh timber]

damn

[wise wigeon]

what about your sisters?

[fresh timber]

im not even a budget gaming pc

lmfaoo

[wise wigeon]

she could use it and you could keep the matx mobo

[hoary zodiac]

It's amazing how linux can turn a mediocre coffee lake laptop into a workhorse

[gentle canyon]

pretty sure its atx id have to look

[hoary zodiac]

this thing cost me like $200 AUD

dirt cheap

[wise wigeon]

from the pic it looks like it could be atx

[lone mango]

So what is happening when I see previous kernel versions in grub

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell is that motherboard

[lone mango]

Is it saving the old versions or what

[hoary zodiac]

vrm 🔥

[fresh timber]

i have that board

the vrms are fine

[hoary zodiac]

you mean the fallback?

[mortal grail]

Lmao there's no apex extreme

[lone mango]

Yeah

[wise wigeon]

yeah thats like 800

[hoary zodiac]

yeah that's just there

sometimes an update could break things

and you have to go in and fix it

[mortal grail]

There maximus extreme, maximus apex, and maximus apex encore

[hoary zodiac]

or rather

config change

[wise wigeon]

what does that mean?

[hoary zodiac]

It's mostly to idiot proof the distor

[lone mango]

Right, but is it saving the old versions

[hoary zodiac]

actually

[lone mango]

Oh this is like a system restore

[hoary zodiac]

I don't think it is

I think it just doesn't save the user initramfs edits

[wise wigeon]

yeah no

[hoary zodiac]

you're talking about arch right?

not sure how it works on debian but

[lone mango]

Nah nobara

[hoary zodiac]

it's probably the same but basically

there's this thing called an initramfs

[lone mango]

Every time I boot nobara it shows like 4 versions

[wise wigeon]

yeah i'm hoping i didnt get a virus from that

[lone mango]

Thats like user config right

[hoary zodiac]

it's like an image of the system

to oversimplify

using arch for an example

[lone mango]

Right, so its like a windows system restore

[hoary zodiac]

let's say you install nvidia-dkms on the linux-zen kernel

[lone mango]

Basically where you were before you updated

[fresh timber]

all im doing is compiling shaders, how is this cpu so efficent

[hoary zodiac]

and let's say you have an nvidia card

and you have to enable certain kernel modules for nvidia to work

[lone mango]

What are the clock speeds

[hoary zodiac]

so after you build the initramfs it'll generate the main image and the fallback

what the fallback does

[hoary zodiac]

it doesn't contain the user modifications

[fresh timber]

its hitting boost

[hoary zodiac]

the fallback initramfs is kinda the default

[lone mango]

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

so that if you mess up editing your /etc/mkinitcpio.conf (arch)

it's less of a hassle to get back in

[mortal grail]

I was so close. I had it all lined up but I missed the usbs so I need to rearrange it again lol

[mortal grail]

@wise wigeon

[hoary zodiac]

not sure what the file is called on fedora tho

[lone mango]

When I installed linux on here I see that it added windows to the grub menu

[wise wigeon]

eh?

[mortal grail]

Itx egpu project almost happened a moment ago

[lone mango]

Thing is I never wanted it there

[hoary zodiac]

yeah you must have had osprober on

try unmounting the windows partition

[mortal grail]

Got stuck on the pc again lmao

[wise wigeon]

missed the usbs?

[hoary zodiac]

and then run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

[mortal grail]

Yeah I forgot to measure them

[hoary zodiac]

actually don't do that

do the grub config command for your distro

[mortal grail]

I have clearance reqs

[lone mango]

You mean unmounting in linux? Its always unmounted

[hoary zodiac]

usually if the drive isn't mounted os-prober shouldn't pick it up

[mortal grail]

So when I closed the case, the case was sticking out the length of the usbs

[lone mango]

Ok ima look for it

[hoary zodiac]

do you just want fedora?

[mortal grail]

Or rather slide the pc back in

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

try to disable os-prober in your grub config

[mortal grail]

Need to find where I put my spare cablemods

[hoary zodiac]

in /etc/default/grub

it won't pick up other linux distros too

[mortal grail]

Oh there they are

[lone mango]

Since you asked about fedora i assume that will not pick anything up

Ah right

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

it's kinda strange tho

[wise wigeon]

so you're building an itx in a egpu enclosure?

[hoary zodiac]

you might be able to edit grub entries

[lone mango]

Im assuming cant remove just windows then

[mortal grail]

Ye

It was almost done 10 minutes ago

Missed it by 🤏 that much

[hoary zodiac]

https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer

there's this

[mortal grail]

Need to remount these things to make it fit

[hoary zodiac]

looks like the easy way

without having to go into the rabbit hole

[lone mango]

true

[wise wigeon]

thats how i felt trying to get my mobo to fit in the antec flux before i realized they somehow accidently installed a second alignment standoff

[lone mango]

Might just turn off prober since i do boot override anyway

[hoary zodiac]

do you have other linux distros tho

[lone mango]

Nah

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

you just need to edit /etc/default/grub

[wise wigeon]

it was a new experience

[hoary zodiac]

oh god

[wise wigeon]

but man i've never had as many straight from manufactuar issues as i had with this build

between the lian li 207

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

the antec flux

and likely the xtx

[hoary zodiac]

basically comment out
#GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

[lone mango]

Probing is disabled for security reasons.

[hoary zodiac]

that's my /etc/default/grub

it's disabled by default on arch

what does yours say

[lone mango]

hold up

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-mr-incredible-back-pain-old-man-crack-gif-7986627

[hoary zodiac]

do you want to read my /etc/fstab

[mortal grail]

The questions asked by the deranged

What does that even mean

Lol

[wise wigeon]

hehe

[mortal grail]

Fstab?

Am i about to get stabbed

[hoary zodiac]

Fs tab

[mortal grail]

[hoary zodiac]

file systems

[mortal grail]

Oh

[fresh timber]

rx6600 does not like 1440p

[hoary zodiac]

where's that file

gonna post my fstab on discord

[wise wigeon]

yeah i didnt think so

[lone mango]

Yeah its a gtx 1080

basically

[hoary zodiac]

here you go

[mortal grail]

File of a stab

There it is

The evidence

[fresh timber]

i forget how fast my 7700xt is, i pull 200fps at the same settings lol

[mortal grail]

[wise wigeon]

200fps in rivals at 1440p with a 7700xt seems like cap to me

[fresh timber]

ever hear of all low settings?

[wise wigeon]

un;ess you turn stuff down

ok ok

[mortal grail]

So fast

[fresh timber]

ur stupid if u play maxed on this game

[wise wigeon]

you'd be surprised

also casuals

[mortal grail]

He is the fast stab

[fresh timber]

what is casual

theirs only ranked

[wise wigeon]

or people converting from overwatch which runs on a potato

you can whine about a lot of things about overwatch but it was def optimized

[lone mango]

I dont have this at all

[hoary zodiac]

If I see a girl that will share her /etc/fstab then she's a keeper

[lone mango]

Is the point to add it basically

[fresh timber]

if i set it to 1080p i get 90fps

playable

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-star-trek-gif-19129737

[fresh timber]

i want b580 again grr

[hoary zodiac]

huh

hold up

gonna look up how to disable the prober on fedora

yea it's the same on fedora

[mortal grail]

He gonna stop probin me before he fstabs me

[hoary zodiac]

add this
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true

[lone mango]

Shoudl I just add that line

[hoary zodiac]

yes but true instead of false

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

and then sudo update-grub

or whatever the grub update command is

[fresh timber]

the rx6600 tdp is limiting me so much

lol

[lone mango]

order doesnt matter right

[mortal grail]

What does sudo have to do with this

[hoary zodiac]

nope

[fresh timber]

instantly capped at 120w, bout to upcap that mf

[lone mango]

supposed to be 100

[mortal grail]

Sudo gon be so mad

[lone mango]

thats what mine is at leaste

[fresh timber]

i increased it in radeon

[mortal grail]

[fresh timber]

now ima make it 160w through magic driver hacks

[lone mango]

Ah right you can add 20

Which compared to stock is a large increase

[north crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/sudoku-gif-9429499

[lone mango]

20%

[fresh timber]

:))

[lone mango]

You wont gain much though

[fresh timber]

morepowertools

[hoary zodiac]

felix is an illegal pid 💀

[fresh timber]

i gain stuff

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Y'know

Stuff

Thangs

[fresh timber]

i should probably fix that tommrow

[wise wigeon]

aight well its 3am

[hoary zodiac]

GMT+10 squad

[wise wigeon]

omg

https://www.reddit.com/r/Newegg/comments/1ivdr1s/rog_astral_bucket_regrets/

somebody bought it

[lone mango]

I don't understand

Did he get bagged or what

[wise wigeon]

its a 7k combo

[lone mango]

Oh i didnt see

Bro

[hoary zodiac]

oh my god

[mortal grail]

Somebody bought it

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoLngV0pI2o&t=119s

[wise wigeon]

he bought a 7k bundle for his 5090

[hoary zodiac]

Indomie is everywhere

[lone mango]

No way

[wise wigeon]

it has 2 motherboards in the bundle

[mortal grail]

Yeah it's the ramen

[hoary zodiac]

why did I randomly get recommended a video of the indomie takeover of the world food market

[hoary zodiac]

REEEEEE It's a soupless noodle

[lone mango]

??

Where were they going with that

[wise wigeon]

idk

[mortal grail]

Ur a soupless noodle

[wise wigeon]

its just everything rog lol

[mortal grail]

Home probably

[north crescent]

Space

[mortal grail]

Sorry 💀

[lone mango]

Yeah bro was about to sign off

[wise wigeon]

230 dollar rog headset

[lone mango]

end of day misclick

[hoary zodiac]

ah yes I just came back from my job I'm tired

gonna spend an unholy amount of money on cheap plasic

[wise wigeon]

bro thrives on conflict

[fresh timber]

gpus 100% running 0mhz

[wise wigeon]

like just move on man

[lone mango]

Lmaooo

[mortal grail]

Lmfao

Sure you are

[lone mango]

This is crazy

[mortal grail]

It's been

[wise wigeon]

clearly not if you were diggin into comments from hours ago

[mortal grail]

7 hours and counting

Moving on

Oh no

Anyway

[wise wigeon]

anywat

meat

[north crescent]

meat good

[lone mango]

Yo did you ever check that board I sent

[mortal grail]

Time flies when you're flabbergasted

[wise wigeon]

why, why are you just picking fights man

[lone mango]

Man aired my link

[mortal grail]

Fr

[wise wigeon]

nah that comment def wasnt about the board bro

[lone mango]

Where are the flight maps that go around serbia

[mortal grail]

Aaaannnnndddd once again

Moving on

Moovviinnggg onnnn

https://tenor.com/view/ok-shades-on-gif-20056963

[hoary zodiac]

you're really tempting me to troll with balkan larp

[lone mango]

Bro no way did this kernel update fix the intel igpu issue i had

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

what are you on rn

[hoary zodiac]

it could also be update shenanigans

[mortal grail]

Bro's back to victim trolling again

[hoary zodiac]

or kernel not being rebuilt properly on your last update

linux just does that sometimes

[mortal grail]

Notice how much he talks when provoked

[worn wave]

so many blocked messages...

[mortal grail]

Oh you do?

About what for example, moving on?

💀

[wise wigeon]

you literally started bringing up old stuff

[hoary zodiac]

yeah from your perspective felix looks like a crazy person in an asylum

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[wise wigeon]

i wasnt the one that said it though?

[mortal grail]

So just a normal day then LOL

[lone mango]

Nah it was fake it still skips frames when playing video

These little hitches

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/squint-eye-sad-about-to-cry-gif-12357864

[tranquil pebble]

funny weapon names

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah it does look weird

Lmfao

[fresh timber]

150w rx6600

[wise wigeon]

i made a general observation because you were picking a fight with 7 hour old comments

[fresh timber]

i wonder why

[wise wigeon]

lol

[lone mango]

Lmao crazy fan speed

[fresh timber]

yeah lol

gotta stay cool

[lone mango]

Even though its only 50w, its a relative 50% increase in power draw so it makes sense with the 90c junction

[mortal grail]

[wise wigeon]

brother

[plucky stratus]

Marketplace moment

[mortal grail]

@wise wigeon disengage

Bro is just trolling

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

this is worse than dealing with 4 younger brothers

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

I've seen someone offer me air jordans for pc parts

like wtf am I gonna do with shoes

[lone mango]

Yo im actually laughing rn

[plucky stratus]

Nothing beats this

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAHAHA

"you don't like the true"

[lone mango]

fr

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

[plucky stratus]

I swear no matter the platform it’s just dumb stuff

[hoary zodiac]

is that the doctor from firefly

[wise wigeon]

anyway back to more meat

[hoary zodiac]

wait no

or was that ryan from the office

I swear I've seen that face

[worn wave]

If I'm looking for a cheap mini pc as a sort of xbox one console level gaming machine is a ryzen 2400GE my best bet (vega 11)?

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

no

[worn wave]

oooh champion

[mortal grail]

See look at this kid troll

[hoary zodiac]

actually no terrible answer

what's your budget

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

@mortal grail ...

[hoary zodiac]

@elfin mural among us

[lone mango]

I respect the hustle

[mortal grail]

Try harder you might have someone in the next 6 months

[north crescent]

Glad ur moving off, moving on is too cool for you

[elfin mural]

begone child

[hoary zodiac]

wait did foxy

[mortal grail]

Thanks foxy

[worn wave]

as inexpensive as possible. Rn im seeing a 2400GE system for $60 (would want more ram, ssd, and a power adapater so would probably come out to like $100?)

[hoary zodiac]

HAHAHAHAH

BASED

[lone mango]

YOOO

[mortal grail]

About time

[wise wigeon]

honestly very abrassive recruiting techniques 2/10

[mortal grail]

Appreciate it

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/banhammer-thor-discord-gif-20451317

[lone mango]

That was cold

like fr

[mortal grail]

I enjoy chatting with trolls it sharpens my blade

[lone mango]

bro cooked him at the last second

[wise wigeon]

damn we sholda saved the messages

[mortal grail]

While you were laughing I was studying the blade

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-mewing-sigma-mew-mewing-chad-gif-17710863300302979354

felix ^

[mortal grail]

I saved a few

[gentle canyon]

cooked him

[lone mango]

he never looked at my link

[hoary zodiac]

poor cloud man

[mortal grail]

He didn't HAHA

[lone mango]

Bro that was so funny

[hoary zodiac]

bro actually tried to make recs

[mortal grail]

I'll look at ur link

[lone mango]

Dude

[mortal grail]

Show me ur links

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-again-gif-27227560

[mortal grail]

[fresh timber]

the small oc i did on the rx6600 gained me 30 fps lmfao

[wise wigeon]

i'll touch your link

[gentle canyon]

lmao i almost missed it i was about to off hop for the night

glad i checked in on this rq

[hoary zodiac]

foxy is among us

[wise wigeon]

but no for real his "friend'' was definitely an alt right?

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-impostor-emergency-gif-21161218

honestly I don't care

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

I just want #general-chat back the way it was

[mortal grail]

Hey look it's back

[worn wave]

bump

[mortal grail]

You're welcome

[wise wigeon]

back to touching links and looking at meat

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-rewind-time-happy-gif-14810665

[lone mango]

Bro he was like "anyway" and then pings him again about military recruitment

That was so funny

[mortal grail]

Nowadays try like 5500

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/kingbluprint-gif-21436316

[wise wigeon]

thank you i feel old now

[hoary zodiac]

the hypocrisy of that guy

[mortal grail]

Maybe 5600?

Consoles have fairly beefy cpus

[lone mango]

I was like im laughing rn and he said its ok youre cool

[mortal grail]

Nowdays

[lone mango]

Hahahaha

[hoary zodiac]

bro did 90% of the things he claims other had done to him

[mortal grail]

Hahahaha i saw that

[worn wave]

no igpu

[wise wigeon]

we was just chillin

[hoary zodiac]

like really if you're gonna make the point don't go to the level of your accusations

[mortal grail]

Hmmmm

[wise wigeon]

and boom dude respons to 3 7 hour posts

[mortal grail]

8600G pre good

[worn wave]

im talking like last-gen xbox, not current

[hoary zodiac]

he tried to stand on a 1mm pole

[lone mango]

So back to the board

[mortal grail]

Oh ok

[hoary zodiac]

and then destroyed that pole

[mortal grail]

Hm

[worn wave]

I think the gpu is gtx750-ish in the xbox one

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-thats-hot-cool-amazed-gif-13488740

[lone mango]

I think its too cheap for him

[wise wigeon]

link plz

[hoary zodiac]

please link

[lone mango]

Thats why he never looked

[wise wigeon]

lmao

[lone mango]

Yeah i have to find it again

[mortal grail]

For like xenia?

[wise wigeon]

like how long did it take for him to find a board that was 1500

but it actually wasnt 1500

because it was 700

[lone mango]

He was looking for 500 but this is less than half of that
https://a.co/d/dHBV9zy

He didnt want that broke boy board

[mortal grail]

The pro max

[worn wave]

not trying to emulate, just have similar power to the xbox one, maybe try out steamOS

[wise wigeon]

nah its sub 300 he felt the peasantry

[mortal grail]

5600G?

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

The og xbox one?

God idk how many tflops the old one is

[hoary zodiac]

what about aliexpress mini pcs

[mortal grail]

That's way back in muh brain

[mortal grail]

Tbh solid idea

[hoary zodiac]

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