general-chat

[hoary zodiac]

yeah a lot of people just throw away knives

[pseudo patrol]

two razor blades glued on a 2x4

ez sharpener

[idle nexus]

lol won't those dull quick tho? they're like cheap steel cuz they're disposable

[wise wigeon]

welp rip core reactor plan

[idle nexus]

razor blades rust so quick I hate that lol

[wise wigeon]

itas back to 130

[pseudo patrol]

true only 3 uses max lol

[idle nexus]

these don't really do anything for serrated tho

the only time I ever hecked myself was with a serrated cutting bread lol

[icy ore]

Man the feeling of a knife slicing skin makes my nerves crawl

Ugh

[hoary zodiac]

I probably should get a knife block

[icy ore]

Sliced the tip of my finger in half down to the bone once and ever since then I just

🤢

[pseudo patrol]

then you feel the cut opening when you bend your finger 😭

[icy ore]

yes it was the worst thing ever

went right through my fingernail too

[pseudo patrol]

it’s like a paper thin cut but it feels so bad

[hoary zodiac]

the annoying part is that it's deep

kitchen knives are so sharp that the slightest cut is pretty painful

[idle nexus]

ya you gotta like tape it together or something lol

wait until it's kinda closed & superglue it

[idle nexus]

aren't liquid stitches just basically superglue without the bad stuff?

[idle nexus]

you think anyone will do it?

[devout forum]

I feel dirty for wanting it...

[idle nexus]

just when I think people can't get dumber

[mortal grail]

Oh the dude who runs this is in the discord lol

[devout forum]

it's like 20% more expensive than the 4070 Ti Super

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder

[idle nexus]

what country uses ft for their currency? lol

[hoary zodiac]

what if you make a knife from Krupp steel

[devout forum]

and it's also a Ventus 3x so that's kinda not great

[mortal grail]

Ew

[devout forum]

Ours >:[

[mortal grail]

Isn't that like $950

[devout forum]

nah

Try 1100

[idle nexus]

that's insane

[mortal grail]

YO

EW

NAH

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-gif-3746287728568117387

[devout forum]

Correction
1375.20 USD

[idle nexus]

if I paid $1100 for a 5070ti, I better get two of them

[hoary zodiac]

imagine using naval armour steel for knives

[devout forum]

I know

[dense locust]

surely nobody would break a 5090 for a joke right?
right?

[devout forum]

It is disgusting

[hoary zodiac]

actually...

aren't pre ww2 steels higher quality?

[devout forum]

https://www.boker.de/en/tirpitz-damascus-wood-42-110197dam

[hoary zodiac]

something to do with radiation

[fresh timber]

ooo

[devout forum]

and they're not really "higher quality" but they are special in the sense that they're not contaminated with radioactive particles

[fresh timber]

lmfao maybe a few

[hoary zodiac]

I see

so it's better for say

lab applications?

[devout forum]

Ye

[mortal grail]

I would believe the signalrgb guy doing that

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

oh wow that knife was made from the Tirpitz

[eternal fiber]

ventus is supposed to be msrp, msi made a shadow card that is not found anywhere to fake it as the msrp card so that they can sell ventus higher

[devout forum]

Literally

[fresh timber]

i converted

[hoary zodiac]

that'd be a cool piece of history to own

[devout forum]

this is THE ONLY 5070 Ti that I can buy anywhere

[idle nexus]

lol "bUt it'S thE OC vErSiON"

[icy ore]

Damascus is so pretty

[idle nexus]

50 series is ridiculous

[mortal grail]

Lots of brands doing this. Apparently msrp is "basically charity"

Which is ridiculous

[devout forum]

but yes, I know I really shouldn't even think about it

[idle nexus]

dude if AMD has something half decent

& they somehow duff this launch

[mortal grail]

Asus got called out for not having an msrp card

[hoary zodiac]

I wish it's a better tourist destination

[mortal grail]

They had to change one

[devout forum]

But it would be a big uplift from a 6700 xt and the market is already screwed

[hoary zodiac]

not in the sense that tourists can go there and trash it

but ya know

actually safe to visit

[idle nexus]

ya I think they made the Prime card reference

[devout forum]

They 100% will

[idle nexus]

they always do

[icy ore]

I meant damascus steel like that knife that was posted but yeah that too

[idle nexus]

some doofus there convinces everyone that they have to launch it at a higher price

[hoary zodiac]

oh lmao

[devout forum]

watch the XT be 850 bucks and just be a 7900 XT performance

[idle nexus]

so they can sell way less of them & make the reviews suck

[mortal grail]

It's not

For the 30th time

Lmao

[idle nexus]

then they'll lower it like $50 when the damage has already been done

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if there's like

[mortal grail]

9070XT = 7900XTX

[eternal fiber]

MSI is especially bad, at least we can find some Asus prime, Gigabyte windforce and Pny msrp out there, MSI shadow is non-existent

[icy ore]

nah you got me looking tho damascus is gorgeous man

I’ve never been out of the US

[eternal fiber]

literally named shadow

[hoary zodiac]

any Damascus steel produced in Damascus these days

[icy ore]

[devout forum]

Yes, so they'll start it for XTX price

[mortal grail]

There's like 15 different leaks supporting this

[hoary zodiac]

It's a very historically rich city

[idle nexus]

9070XT needs to be 7900XTX for like $500-$550

[mortal grail]

If only

[icy ore]

Exactly what I want to see

[devout forum]

That will literally never happen

[hoary zodiac]

I'd visit it if it wasn't in Syria

[sage sluice]

@mortal grail send me your build again my friend told me they had no leg room and i wanted to show yours

[devout forum]

Watch it start at 850

[mortal grail]

The pic?

[sage sluice]

Yus

[devout forum]

and go down to like 750 in a year

[idle nexus]

unless it does RT considerably better than 7900XTX & FSR 8 or whatever they're on is really close to or on par with DLSS 17 or whatever they're on

[sage sluice]

Like monitors and desk i meant 😭

[mortal grail]

O

[sage sluice]

🔥

[hoary zodiac]

Cus

[icy ore]

I hate that dlss is a necessity nowadays

[idle nexus]

noice but where's this one going? lol

[hoary zodiac]

dlss is a cope for game studios for not giving devs more time and resources

[mortal grail]

These?

[devout forum]

Honestly if AMD actually makes the XT like 550-600 starting price I'd be so shocked I'd actually take a loan to buy it

[icy ore]

Man imagine if they put as much time and resources into it as they did prior to dlss

[mortal grail]

To the panel that goes over all that

[icy ore]

How much better dlss would be

[idle nexus]

I hate that they stopped making big improvements in raster so they just changed the standard (DLSS, FSR, etc)

[sage sluice]

🙏

[icy ore]

It was created to be a tool and now it’s a crutch

[mortal grail]

Muh PS2 front and center lmao

[hoary zodiac]

twitch streamer setup

[idle nexus]

fancy

[hoary zodiac]

hello everybody my name is markiplier

[idle nexus]

my desk is a mess

[mortal grail]

Hello everyone my name is hello

[icy ore]

$300000 monitor

[mortal grail]

[idle nexus]

there are random computer parts all over & on the floor

& benching setup

[opaque sedge]

Sorefingertips needs his steam deck more like

[devout forum]

@mortal grail How bad is this?

[hoary zodiac]

I'll intercept it

[mortal grail]

Like 1100?

[devout forum]

1130

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-all-the-bacon-and-eggs-you-have-ron-swanson-nick-offerman-parks-and-recreation-i-want-everything-you-have-gif-909418760041957559

[opaque sedge]

I will intercept your interception

[mortal grail]

That's less ew but still ew

[idle nexus]

$1100 for a 4070ti? that's supposed to be a 5080

I give up

[devout forum]

it's the EU + 27% VAT

[mortal grail]

I need to rationalise here I'd pay 650 for a 4070 Ti Super

[idle nexus]

which crypto do I mine? people still use NBMiner? Trex? what's going on

[mortal grail]

Lmao

[devout forum]

US is literally a protected market for tech

[hoary zodiac]

is crypto going up?

what?

is mining viable?

[idle nexus]

lol I have no idea

[mortal grail]

Doge to the moon

[idle nexus]

but I can't rationalize GPU prices otherwise

[devout forum]

I can get a new 7800 XT for that much

[opaque sedge]

You cant mine bitcoin?

[devout forum]

just as reference

[hoary zodiac]

you can

crypto mining's not profitable these days

[mortal grail]

That's better lmao

[idle nexus]

THANKS ETHERIUM

[opaque sedge]

Makes sense

[devout forum]

I know, just

[idle nexus]

proof of steaks or whatever crap

heckers

[opaque sedge]

Its been reduced to pump and dump schemes

[devout forum]

damn I kinda wanna try out RT

at 1440p

[opaque sedge]

Much like penny stocks

[hoary zodiac]

proof dee-

[hoary zodiac]

yeah I want a steak

https://tenor.com/view/steak-dinner-gif-13964365

[devout forum]

I can get a 4080 for 1 grand

[mortal grail]

I feel like there's 10000 others in your country thinking this and therefore jacking the price

[idle nexus]

Etherium never even gave me a steak after they hecked me

[opaque sedge]

I canr afford a steak…

[icy ore]

Hey I made steak for dinner

[misty sparrow]

Pump deez nuts

[mortal grail]

Then do that

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fancy-man-in-suit-fancy-man-gif-4338488264382164769

[icy ore]

And Jalapeno poppers and corn on the cob and baked potatoes

[devout forum]

Yeah used is the way to go rn

[idle nexus]

oh but for real

anyone who used to mine

log into your old wallets

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[idle nexus]

I had like $180 of random crap in there

[hoary zodiac]

I lost one my crypto wallet

ahhaahhaha

💀

[idle nexus]

I'm like wait whaaa

in 2021 I didn't even bother converting this or 2022

whenever the fun ended

[hoary zodiac]

I'll find it one day if I even still have it

somewhere...

I probably don't

[icy ore]

Still do not understand mining

[hoary zodiac]

ok so

[idle nexus]

you didn't like uh save the scratch codes or whatever it's called

[hoary zodiac]

you're playing minecraft

in a cave looking or diamonds

[mortal grail]

Is ninja there

[idle nexus]

they issue a certain amount of crypto or something

[devout forum]

I could take a new 7900 XT for like 850 bucks

[idle nexus]

& whoever guesses the encryption key gets to keep it

[hoary zodiac]

ninja and xqc and jake paul

[mortal grail]

Not terrible

[idle nexus]

so people band together in pools

[devout forum]

but the used 4080 is quite a bit faster

[idle nexus]

& have all their GPUs start guessing the encryption key

[devout forum]

tis an alternative

[misty sparrow]

I guess they’re in the thick of it

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder

what if you have ONE quantum computer

mining crypto

[idle nexus]

since all the GPUs are helping, it's split based on how much work you put in based on your hashrate

over time

[misty sparrow]

three cents worth of crypto a day

[hoary zodiac]

just instantly exhaust the entire world's remaining crypto supply

[idle nexus]

so in theory, you could set up your GPU to mine by itself

& if you magically were able to find the encryption key, you'd get the whole thing

like 1 ETH or KPOW or whatever I forget by now

something about an octopus? I dunno

[hoary zodiac]

what

octopus game?

[idle nexus]

but the odds of you getting it by yourself are low, so you join a pool to increase them even tho you only get your proportion of the 1 ETH based on the total hashrate it took to unlock it

wasn't that the name of a crypto or something

it changed so much

one week it's like mine KPOW

ETH going down mine octopus

[hoary zodiac]

Something something fast vram

[idle nexus]

blah blah I'm confused

[hoary zodiac]

gddr6 go brr

[idle nexus]

it's funny cuz

mining crypto was probably the thing the RTX3070 was best at

[hoary zodiac]

didn't nvidia cap it?

[idle nexus]

like considering hashrate to wattage

they did but you could get like 75% or something of the hash rate without the limiter kicking in

[hoary zodiac]

that's during the gpu shortage too

so even if you paid inflated

your gpu can pay back itself

[idle nexus]

then someone at NBMiner or another mining thing figure out how to unlock LHR

[hoary zodiac]

I miss it when you could practically get a free gpu

good old days

[idle nexus]

ya it was awesome

I squandered it by using my 3060 to get a 3070 then using my 3070 to get a 3080ti

cuz I was stupid & impatient

[hoary zodiac]

why not use both

[idle nexus]

should've waited for 3090 oh well

oh ya I tried 3060 + 3070 on my 10900K system lol

it worked

but maaan it was a mess

[hoary zodiac]

what if

enthoo pro 2

think about it you can get a crap ton of gpus in that case

[mortal grail]

DUDE THAT CONTACT THO WTF

[hoary zodiac]

in a hypothetical 2021 scenario that is

[mortal grail]

That's like

Almost perfect

I did such a lazy ass job of it too

[dense locust]

what contact?

[idle nexus]

I got one of those cheap risers off amazon

[mortal grail]

Heatsink contact

[hoary zodiac]

you only need x1

[mortal grail]

Paste print is super consistent

[hoary zodiac]

what if you mine with bifurcation

hmmmm

[idle nexus]

this was my record using that cheap crappy riser lmao

how many PCIe errors per second is 1.67 billion in 21 hours & 18 minutes? lmao

I was getting PCIe errors like the US Debt clock

[devout forum]

something like 21700/sec if my math is correct

assuming 1.67 billion is 1670000000

[idle nexus]

close enough it was like 1.676blah (see picture) lol

kinda crazy it even worked with that many errors

you only need like x4 or something for GPU to do mining tho

[craggy shoal]

@fresh timber do you prefer Ad Guard or Pi Hole and why?

[idle nexus]

I use adguard on mobile cuz it has a browser & Adguard player so I can avoid all YT ads

Pihole is good but I was slightly disappointed that I couldn't block ads in smartTV apps

I know that question wasn't for me but

lol

[fresh timber]

both seem the same to me

adguard has ab etter default adlist

[wise wigeon]

@mortal grail do you truly the rm850x is truly better than a decently performing 1000w like the c1000>

[idle nexus]

fair enough. I mean, you can for sure set it to 1:1 but most people don't get into the weeds like that

[craggy shoal]

I might host Ad Guard just to try it

[fresh timber]

i use tailscale

[craggy shoal]

Yeah same

[fresh timber]

so i just set my dns server in tailscale and have my subnet passthrough

[idle nexus]

you can add AdGuard's lists to Pihole from github

[mortal grail]

I would say it's pretty comparable to a decent 1000w. C1000? No

[mortal grail]

I have to link this vid just to conclude this. Here is active proof that 7200 is slower.
https://youtu.be/mYu8s5BCvHI

Not even a fan of tech yes city but the topic is so uncommon because it's long tested to death

[wise wigeon]

tech yes is pretty chill among the techtubers

[nocturne flicker]

Tech no country

[mortal grail]

Desync is a more common topic on AM4, there is way more data on this there

[fresh timber]

me running 3000 on am4

[wise wigeon]

ok welp after you convincing me to stay on the rm850x i was almost expecting you'd say yes

[mortal grail]

I'm a realistic man

I see good psu I liek

[nocturne flicker]

I was playing LotRO about 2 years ago and they said 2666mhz in fine and doesn't hurt perf on Zen 3

[mortal grail]

You'll be fine on 850W tho I still fervently feel that way lmao

[nocturne flicker]

I said no that isn't how it works and got chastised

[mortal grail]

6200 vs 6400 is less than 1% and 7200 is slower than 7800

You gonna argue with me again or use the source to learn?

[idle nexus]

for me, 6200c28 was way faster on ycroncher than 8000c34. like not even close. the issue might've been that I have no idea where SCLs should be at 8k lol

[mortal grail]

Mhm and 7000 series

Since they use the same controller

[idle nexus]

@wispy knot recommended this for lists for Pihole. It's heckin comprehensive lol https://github.com/blocklistproject/Lists/tree/master/adguard

[mortal grail]

Video still absolutely applies

[wise wigeon]

i'm sure I am, just between the two since I can get one the next day which one? assuming cables arent even a factor

[craggy shoal]

Bett thanks for this

[fresh timber]

my old pihole had like 2mil blocked domains

[idle nexus]

I like 6200 for 64gb lol

[mortal grail]

What's the price difference again

[wise wigeon]

9 bucks

[mortal grail]

Vetroo gv1000 is 120

[idle nexus]

I'm a little past that but noice

[mortal grail]

Nah I still wouldn't do c1000 sorry lol

[craggy shoal]

dang bruh

[idle nexus]

you could do the scortch earth approach & add the "everything" lists

then just watch the tail thing to see what you need to add to whitelist

[mortal grail]

Jeez

Dedicated

[fresh timber]

one of the usb ports on my motherboard does not work with my usb hub

my keyboard doent get power lel

[idle nexus]

for example, should I whitelist lgsmartAD.com? absolutely not lol

[wise wigeon]

crazy that that is thier first psu and it is so well reviewed

[lone mango]

Why is the left side of my ring finger hurting with this fingertip geip

is my mouse too small

[mortal grail]

It's a banger man

[wise wigeon]

hmm the vetroo is 135 on my end

[mortal grail]

It's a cwt I think

[idle nexus]

iirc there's like a setting in BIOS for legacy USB or something

[mortal grail]

I would take that over the c1000 personally

[idle nexus]

let me go to BIOS so I don't sound like an idiot lol

[fresh timber]

i think it broke lol

it used to work but then i got weird usb issues

now it powers my mouse but not keyboard

[idle nexus]

are you using both 2.0 headers on the motherboard? can you connect it directly to the board

ohhh

does your USB hub

have uh

heck uh

oh SATA power connection?

[fresh timber]

IN MATCH

[wise wigeon]

first gen product just kinda spooks me

[fresh timber]

HOLD UP

[mortal grail]

I know people with that psu, it's great. It's a rebrand of an old goodie

[idle nexus]

long story short, I kept having problems with my USB hub & read someone suggesting to remove the SATA power connection from it

[mortal grail]

I'm fairly sure

[idle nexus]

never had a problem after that

[mortal grail]

If not it's that really nice andyson

It's a very good unit

Vetroo is also good with amazon support

They'll send you a whole new psu with little effort

[wise wigeon]

thats not what i'm worried about

[idle nexus]

These are enabled?

[wise wigeon]

you know me by this point, always assume the worst

hmm, not an aesthetic thing this time

[craggy shoal]

I had to troubleshoot some things but here's my weak response

[fresh timber]

thats not alot

btw

get 2mil

[craggy shoal]

I tried making a smoother reverse proxy with Caddy last weak. That didn't go well lolll

Yeah I need to add more

[wise wigeon]

looks like it has only 2 8 to 6+2 and 2 daisy chain pcie cables

[idle nexus]

what is it you're looking for in a PSU that this decision has been so difficult? lol

[idle nexus]

the lists are nice cuz they're divided up nicely

[wise wigeon]

the best i can get for the price generally

[mortal grail]

It's an amazon brand, they won't be going anywhere lol

Rn I'd say vetroo would be the best one

Otherwise stay on the RMx

[craggy shoal]

wow that's a lot of lines of URLs to block

[idle nexus]

you can add it directly if you select raw

[wise wigeon]

welp I guess i'll just stay on it then

[dense locust]

never heard of this company

[idle nexus]

like click on adguard youtube for example

[wise wigeon]

its their first psu

[wise wigeon]

the one he recced

but aris score it real well

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I saw that

[idle nexus]

it'll open it in another page & you can add the URL

okay nvm lol

[fresh timber]

https://v.firebog.net/hosts/lists.php @craggy shoal

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I've used that one before

And then stuff started loading too slowly

[wise wigeon]

its like plat rated on cybernetics too

[dense locust]

hmmm maybe they are the go to
they sold 12 sold in | sold in last undefined hours | hours

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

what site is that even

[dense locust]

vetroo.com

[wise wigeon]

oh i was just looking on amazon

[dense locust]

maybe its just linux being funny

[mortal grail]

Hands are messy so can't google, look up

[idle nexus]

I wonder if EVGA ones sell for the low since EVGA is just a shadow of its former self now

[mortal grail]

Hwbusters vetroo gv1000

^

Good psu

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsu0Rw3Nqi8

THIS IS FIRE

[wise wigeon]

think they released one not long ago

[idle nexus]

you want ATX 3.0 tho right?

[wise wigeon]

the dan a3 is gonna get even more popular now

[pliant berry]

have you ever tried a service like traefik or nginx proxy manager?

[idle nexus]

like 12vhpwr I mean

[craggy shoal]

I use NPM. I couldn't understand Traefik

[fresh timber]

YEAH

[pliant berry]

ah ok

[fresh timber]

did pewdiepie use a 9700x

https://www.newegg.com/?nrtv_cid=gm9b6iry3e2na

[craggy shoal]

yerr septuple digits

[fresh timber]

PEWDIEPIE USED NEW EGG

[pliant berry]

isn't he in japan?

[fresh timber]

yes

it redirects to new egg

[idle nexus]

supposedly this is good but I never tried it https://www.pfsense.org/

Louis Rossman was saying to use it

[craggy shoal]

Bruh it's embarrassing but I had a facepalm moment when I realized that you needed a DNS server to use NPM lmaooo

[wise wigeon]

thought he said he bought local

[craggy shoal]

I felt stupid when I realized that

[pliant berry]

pfsense is a firewall software, it is pretty good though

[fresh timber]

idm im assuming

lmfao

[gentle canyon]

yeah we talked a bit about it this morning, i made the funny joke of what if he secretly asked for help in here

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

[fresh timber]

it can be a router

[craggy shoal]

Yeah I've heard of pfsense

[gentle canyon]

surprised he went full amd

[fresh timber]

what gpu he go

[north crescent]

My dad uses pfsense for his home network

[fresh timber]

i coudnt finish the video

[pliant berry]

lol yeah, but you can do the dns at registrar level or local level depending on what your goal is

[gentle canyon]

it was a powercolor card so radeon but idk

he never showed the box

[fresh timber]

suprised no nvidia

his job is content

[idle nexus]

my sense is it's better than Pihole but way more difficult to set up?

[wise wigeon]

it does spook me that he used a powerdrill to screw stuff lol

[fresh timber]

does diffrent things

[dense locust]

surprised no windows his job is content

[fresh timber]

tbh its fine

[fresh timber]

HE DIDNT USE WINDOWS??

[craggy shoal]

Lowkey though, I have a spare GL.iNet router and an Ethernet entry in my room that gives everything Internet. I might use that as a router for my whole room lol

[craggy shoal]

I think he used Mint

[wise wigeon]

yeah think he went with mint

[craggy shoal]

Source: (just trust that I saw an image of his desktop on Reddit)

[fresh timber]

wtf

[craggy shoal]

lmaooo

Looks clean I might put Mint on my Dell now

[fresh timber]

its not his main pc

makes sense

[idle nexus]

I think you have to disable DHCP on the main router or you can get double NAT or something. Otherwise, maybe see if the router can be setup in access point mode?

[pliant berry]

wait he put linux?

[wise wigeon]

yeh

[dense locust]

what else would be put? temple os?

[fresh timber]

content creator mostly gaming uses mint

[craggy shoal]

Yeah that's kinda what I'm thinking. Either that or I just suffer with the [hostname].attlocal.net goofiness when I'm not using Tailscale

[wise wigeon]

he just makes a couple vlogs here and there now though

[fresh timber]

o :/

no more video games

[idle nexus]

the real ones use this tho https://archiveos.org/hannah-montana/

[fresh timber]

i wanna run linux on my main pc but fortnite doesnt work ;/

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[craggy shoal]

Y'all aren't ready for UwUntu

[craggy shoal]

Yeah that's the image I saw

[wise wigeon]

it was like 2 frames

[misty sparrow]

I don’t have a GF but my standards aren’t that low

[wise wigeon]

but he has a terminal pulled up earlier i think

[fresh timber]

man

[idle nexus]

is your AT&T gateway the BGW320-500?

that's what I had to work around lol

[craggy shoal]

yeah 💀

[wise wigeon]

god the vetroo looks good but i would def get extensions for it

[craggy shoal]

Absolute ass router

[fresh timber]

ngl im consdreing making my current gaming pc my server then using my server as my main pc

[pliant berry]

I love going through old images in my phone

[fresh timber]

the r5 5500 is suprisling good

[idle nexus]

if you have another router, you can set the SSIDs exactly the same with the same passwords on the other router then turn off wifi on the AT&T gateway completely

no one will know the difference lol

[gentle canyon]

i cannot tell what it is

obv powercolor radeon

[fresh timber]

mostlikly a xtx

[mortal grail]

7800xt powercolour

[fresh timber]

not xtx?

so he was being humble

[craggy shoal]

Ohhh I see wym. I'd have to mess with it when nobody is at the house lol

[fresh timber]

can u tell what cpu

[gentle canyon]

he went with a R9 7900X and a 7800 XT?

weird

[idle nexus]

not really

[mortal grail]

Someone said 7800, I only saw one or two power plugs

Xtx has 3

[fresh timber]

maybe he got deals

[idle nexus]

just type 192.168.1.254 in your browser

[fresh timber]

damn

[wise wigeon]

too smol

[idle nexus]

just need the little code on the back to get into it lol

[fresh timber]

i cant tell

lel

[craggy shoal]

aight gonna take five years to load the web UI because it takes forever for no reason lol

[wise wigeon]

well ref and like two other skus have 2 8 pins but the vast majotiy of xtx are 3 8pin

[idle nexus]

just do it at night when no one notices the connection dropped lol

[fresh timber]

i wonde wht his old pc specs is

[wise wigeon]

still too smol for a xtx

[gentle canyon]

2 power plugs i think @mortal grail

do all the 7900s have 3

[mortal grail]

Yeah that looks like a 7800

Could be gre

[idle nexus]

ya it's painfully slow ngl

[mortal grail]

He's a dad now remember

He got priorities

Lol

[wise wigeon]

wonder if japan for gres

[lone mango]

adguard cant block youtube ads at all right

[craggy shoal]

I kinda want the BGW320 to do the wireless transmitting though. Idk how far this GL.iNet can reach

[idle nexus]

the only thing is you gotta run ethernet from the AT&T thing to the new router

[lone mango]

you would need something local on the device

[idle nexus]

ah okay could get dicey then

[craggy shoal]

Nah. It's a DNS ad blocker. Technically it could but you'd have to block YouTube as well lol

[idle nexus]

when the ads & the content you actually want to see come from the same source, pihole can't do anything

on mobile I use adguard player & it blocks 100% of ads

[craggy shoal]

Idk though. I need to see if this GL.iNet router even has the settings I need

[gentle canyon]

yeah it makes sense im just surprised he didnt go crazier, I do like him more now than ever I think with how his style of content has matured, he def used to be too crazy for me

[wise wigeon]

lol

[mortal grail]

This is like the rarest thing ever

And it's a good pink psu lol

Win win

[idle nexus]

it's just derp cuz you gotta pick a video; tap "share"; tap "other"; then tap adguard

[gentle canyon]

here was his bios

[mortal grail]

32gb

Yeah he just wants a normal pc man

He's got a chill setup

[wise wigeon]

i mean you can see the other one

[gentle canyon]

yeah it makes total sense i love his setup

i want what he has i love how one side of his L desk is like a workbench type thing

[mortal grail]

Pewds showing everyone you don't need crazy fast to be satisfied

What a g

[idle nexus]

ask for these https://www.techpowerup.com/download/amd-ryzen-zen-timings/

[wise wigeon]

i'm sure its his more casual pc that he uses outside of work

[storm narwhal]

Wow it's like finding a unicorn

[mortal grail]

Prolly is, either way he's being modest

I like that part tbh

[wise wigeon]

i don't doubt he has like a 4090 or something on the work machine

[gentle canyon]

top comment that he replied to on his video was that his kid secretly built if offscreen lmao

his kid is almost a year old or older now right

[mortal grail]

Possible yeah

[idle nexus]

lol I keep forgetting to fix the option where Adguard makes my tokens expire after like 3 hours or something so I have to constantly log into YouTube

[gentle canyon]

wild stuff

[mortal grail]

Kid's a genius

[gentle canyon]

hes gonna know like 4 languages

[lone mango]

What really threw me off was him using linux

[wise wigeon]

bjorn has grown so fast bro

[lone mango]

lil dude

[gentle canyon]

mom is italian, dad is swedish, they both speak english and live in japan

[wise wigeon]

swear it was like the other day when we got the dad announcement

[wise wigeon]

they even lived in the UK for years

[craggy shoal]

There's a dad in this server?

[wise wigeon]

truly mr and mrs worldwide

[idle nexus]

I'm actually gonna be a dad for the second time in May

[gentle canyon]

talking about pewdiepie

[idle nexus]

like in 3 months

[craggy shoal]

ah lmao

[wise wigeon]

gratz

[idle nexus]

kinda crazy lol

haha thanks

[craggy shoal]

congratulations

[gentle canyon]

thats awesome

[mortal grail]

He's gonna be in school tomorrow

[wise wigeon]

no way

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[wise wigeon]

like preschool?

[idle nexus]

thank you thank you

I dunno how old you all are & I know unsolicited old people advice is mildly annoying (at best) but it's crazy how quick life goes after high school lol

[mortal grail]

Help I'm dying

[wise wigeon]

i'm almost in my mid 20s

bro my dad had me when he was 27

making me feel so old

[idle nexus]

30 for me which is when I had my first lol

[idle nexus]

same

[wise wigeon]

ima be 27 when i get out of my grad program

but yeah flubba you can understand why i'm a lil nervous to go in on a company's first psu even if it is amazing in reviews

[gentle canyon]

i turn 20 in march im about to have a midlife crisis

[wise wigeon]

plus ima def buy extensions if i get it

[idle nexus]

speaking of, my 13900KS is so borked it needs like 1.35v (under load--BIOS set is like 1.455 on LLC 5) to run ycroncher at 57x lol

[nocturne flicker]

Don't worry. It never gets better 😊

[wise wigeon]

jeez 5.7 ghhz what the heck is intel at rn

[idle nexus]

13900KS runs 6ghz on cores 4 & 5 stock & 14900KS runs 6.2

[wise wigeon]

christ

thats wild

[idle nexus]

I used to be able to run up to 60x all-core on some benchmarks & 58-59x on lighter ones

but I've beaten this CPU so hard it jsut can't anymore

[wise wigeon]

is that like a good binned cpu or is that like pretty normal

[idle nexus]

my 13900KS:

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[wise wigeon]

i bet

[idle nexus]

I got it when it came out in like early 2023 or something

[wise wigeon]

i'm sure whatever ups or surge protector is tired too lol

[idle nexus]

it's never even connected to the internet

just benchmarks benchmarks benchmarks

it's a hard knock life

[wise wigeon]

jeeez

[idle nexus]

the worst part is, I can't RMA it because I delidded it

well until I get some convincing glue at least

[wise wigeon]

wait

is this the cracked one?

[idle nexus]

wym like 13/14th gen stability issues? ya it's in the group

my 13600K is even worse I think

[wise wigeon]

oh i thought i read earlier someone said something about a cracked 13th gen

[idle nexus]

oh haha no that's @rancid juniper's 13600K ig lol

[rancid juniper]

its not broken

or i think its not broken yet

[idle nexus]

10291c62-125-125-127 for a few seconds once lol https://valid.x86.fr/ieqt9d

[lone mango]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-9070-xt-reference-design-wont-be-available-for-purchase

[rancid juniper]

im glad all cores/clockspeed/instructions are all fine

[wise wigeon]

yeah saw that

[rancid juniper]

wild

[lone mango]

At first i was like but this is a good thing

[wise wigeon]

hope amd has that nvidia deal with aibs going where they are forced to have a msrp model

[idle nexus]

watching AMD duff another launch in slow motion rn

[lone mango]

Nah its good

[idle nexus]

oh nvm then

lol

[lone mango]

Amd wont be competing with board partners

[wise wigeon]

but the aibs are so ugly lol

[idle nexus]

Intel B580 has 20 compute units. Supposedly there's a 32 compute unit version. I hope they launch it lol

[idle nexus]

competition forces prices down usually

[fresh timber]

lets have some fun

[proud jackal]

Unless we have a monopoly

[wise wigeon]

having a ref model at least guarantees msrp models

[idle nexus]

for example, 5090 has no competition so you have to pay $8000 for it bundled with all the crap left on the Asus shelf cuz you can't get it anywhere else & they only made 56 of them

[rancid juniper]

and that card is around RTX 4060/7600xt

[wise wigeon]

unless tey have a stipulation like nvidia's

[rancid juniper]

thats insane

[nocturne flicker]

Surely this would never happen

[wise wigeon]

and 10 have melted

[idle nexus]

the B580 ya but with 12 more compute units...? 4070ish maybe? lol but the good thing is it'll be like $350 maybe? I dunno

[lone mango]

a fear people had was that amd was following novideos footsteps when it came to competing with board partners

but amd ref models were never as good as aib

[fresh timber]

id take a b580

[lone mango]

so i guess it was ok for amd ref cards to be made

[wise wigeon]

@mortal grail oi finish up that build we gotta split some heads in chiv 2

[idle nexus]

still waiting for Intel to email me about free 285K, Z890, & some DIMMs with clockgen or DIMM.2 lol

[rancid juniper]

if that happened say goodbye to all stock in a minute

[lone mango]

im still fine with it tho

[sinful blade]

Get more ram first

wtf

[fresh timber]

whats ram

[idle nexus]

ya but they'll catch up eventually

[sinful blade]

[wise wigeon]

i mean they gotta fix the driver overhead

[rancid juniper]

fingers crossed

[idle nexus]

ya that driver overhead thing is odd

[fresh timber]

just get a cpu that can handel it lol

[wise wigeon]

i mean in performance they are progressing fast

[lone mango]

fr you gonna need an oc 13950x3d for it

[idle nexus]

they need to let Afterburner have access to their API too

[wise wigeon]

but issue is that they use a lot of space to get that performace

[lone mango]

Linux time

[fresh timber]

nope

im staying windows

[idle nexus]

cuz Intel's OC thing is trash

[wise wigeon]

what xtu?

[idle nexus]

the GPU OC thing

my buddy says if the clock you set fail, you have to DDU & reinstall driver

[wise wigeon]

they couldn't bundle it together?

[idle nexus]

he has one so I assume that's accurate lol

they should integrate it

[fresh timber]

ugh

[idle nexus]

but ig keep a standalone for AMD CPU users

[lone mango]

Bro imagine someone bought a scalped 5090 and it was the defective one that had less rops

Hahahahaha

[fresh timber]

i realsie how expensive legal windows is

[lone mango]

[idle nexus]

step one: dark mode jeez

[fresh timber]

mf $200 for windows 11 pro

[wise wigeon]

i guess ryzen master is seperate too

[fresh timber]

thank god im not goofy

[wise wigeon]

idk

i think you a bit goofy

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-laugh-wide-eyes-gif-3247559636896710102

[fresh timber]

seriously,

[idle nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-revenge-of-sith-anakin-vader-darth-vader-gif-19644107

[fresh timber]

id be out $400 if i was to buy windows

[velvet summit]

💀

[idle nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/not-from-a-jedi-palpatine-jedi-not-from-a-learn-this-power-gif-17298635

[fresh timber]

not inclidng my virtual machines, id be out even more

if i activated my vms id be out mf thousands

[lone mango]

middle is a twin scroll supercharger this is crazy

a microplastic blower

[velvet summit]

supercharged beer

i think the first one would cause the beer to foam up so much

though honestly all of them probably would

[wise wigeon]

hm i was looking at the comments of the hwb review for the vetroo apparently there were enough user complaints of coil whine he had to take it off his best picks

[fresh timber]

:)))

activaed

[wise wigeon]

i really need to

[pliant berry]

My pc is too slow for vm 😦

[fresh timber]

took me not even 10 seconds

[wise wigeon]

doesnt the key like link to the mobo these days

[velvet summit]

real

[idle nexus]

massgravso Intel GPUs love em? hate em? uh

[lone mango]

Think so yeah

[wise wigeon]

which blows

[idle nexus]

if you actually sign in with your windows account

[fresh timber]

:))

[idle nexus]

it'll be linked to windows account

[lone mango]

Also true because its tied to the account

[idle nexus]

& if you try to reuse it on a new board

[lone mango]

But I dont have one

[wise wigeon]

oh the days of me having a xp cd with the cd key written on top

[idle nexus]

you might get away with picking, "I changed hardware recently"

I actually connected to microsoft's heckin

thing & they fixed it for me once

[lone mango]

A week or two after I changed platforms it hit me with it

[fresh timber]

wanna know the funny thing

this pc useage is lower than my main pc

[idle nexus]

that you have active windows key but still use light mode?

[wise wigeon]

you guys have no idea how often i fresh installed windows over small conveniences as a kid

[idle nexus]

lol

[wise wigeon]

fr

[fresh timber]

like look at this

how bloated is my windows 😢

[idle nexus]

I reinstall at least like once a year

here unbloat it

[fresh timber]

iv been on my current one for maybe 6 months

[wise wigeon]

issue is i have a bunch of stuff

[lone mango]

I have been on the same install since 2018

[fresh timber]

i just put important things on a thumbdrive now

[idle nexus]

https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat

[wise wigeon]

i still gotta figure out what to transfer from my old system since i'm not bringing any drives over

[lone mango]

Sometimes windows wont boot when restarting

[idle nexus]

click on the folder that says regfiles

[fresh timber]

im buing a new motherboard so i can get 16gbram

[lone mango]

I have to turn it off completely

[idle nexus]

& get rid of crap to your heart's content

or til your heart's content?

how does that saying go?

heck

[wise wigeon]

gotta find my nand backup for my 3ds and a bunch of my save backups

[fresh timber]

ddoing it on both my pcs lol

[idle nexus]

definitely get windows 10 context menus back

[fresh timber]

yall would love the microsoft discord :)))

[idle nexus]

I HATE win11 context menu

[wise wigeon]

i also screenshot and keep pdfs of a lot of my purchases

[idle nexus]

I've been to the microsoft discord

[fresh timber]

mods got upset when i was blocking the update servers lmfaooo

[idle nexus]

it's a sad place

full of boomers in boot loops

[fresh timber]

yeah

[idle nexus]

with no usb drive with windows iso

[fresh timber]

the mods are triggery happy

you get warned for even speaking of debloating ur windows

[wise wigeon]

huh does windows restore old files synced to onedrive?

[idle nexus]

hopelessly drifting trying to get back those pictures from last Christmas they didn't back up anywhere

ya

[wise wigeon]

because i feel like my last install random screenshots from 2019 popped up

[idle nexus]

that's the only reason I suffer through OneDrive lol

[fresh timber]

should i put more adlist to adguard

or rock the default one

[idle nexus]

I only run OneDrive on occasion

[fresh timber]

their default one seems wayy better than pihole

[fresh timber]

i can rip it out, u dont need it

[wise wigeon]

cant believe ublock is ded

[fresh timber]

it is?

[idle nexus]

& since I don't have an actual pi, my 10700KF build became my pihole/;pseudo-server

[fresh timber]

sir my adblock is ran on a r5 5500 and rx6600

[wise wigeon]

yeah when i installed chrome it notified me the extension is ded

[fresh timber]

yeah its dead on chrome

cause google

[idle nexus]

use edge

[wise wigeon]

not on my life

[idle nexus]

Google hates it when you try to keep your data safe from their data monster

download firefox

[fresh timber]

ggood, wanna know whats funny, if i get a new am4 motherboard i umm.. well i can make another pc if i get more ram LMFAOOOO

[wise wigeon]

firefox i'm ok with

[fresh timber]

i have too much spare parts

[fresh timber]

but the 3rd pc WONT have a gpu

so ill install proxmor or something on it

[idle nexus]

also

get this fr

[wise wigeon]

its just firefox doesnt agree with my the websites my program uses sometimes

[idle nexus]

it skips the sponsor crap in YT videos

[idle nexus]

it's funny cuz Louis Rossman had SponsorBlock as a sponsor on his video the other day

[wise wigeon]

yeah i have that in the modified version of youtube on my iphone

[idle nexus]

& SponsorBlock skipped it lol

[fresh timber]

to be fair

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

which reminds me i gotta install my altstore server onto my mac

[idle nexus]

you can do that or just add the regkeys you want

[wise wigeon]

so i can refresh my youtube app

[fresh timber]

why would sponsor block advertise to people who already use sponsorblock???

lmfaooo

[wise wigeon]

youtube without adblock and background play is insufferable

[fresh timber]

FR

[idle nexus]

I can't bring myself to watch it on smart TV anymore

[fresh timber]

i watch youtube with ads on my ps5 and it sucks

[idle nexus]

like I hate the experience

[wise wigeon]

but not as bad as twitch

omg

[fresh timber]

fr

[wise wigeon]

twitch

[idle nexus]

it's like I'm back on AT&T Uverse

[fresh timber]

bro

[wise wigeon]

its the worst

[lone mango]

Get enhancer for youtube and disable shorts

Finally I am at peace

[idle nexus]

lol I loathe shorts

[wise wigeon]

ah shoot

[fresh timber]

if their was a good youtube app for pc that lets u use a controller, or let you cast from ur phone to a web browser I WOULD USE MY PC FOR YOUTUBE

but NOOOOOO u cant

[wise wigeon]

does firefox have a video speed extension

i use that for my lectures

[idle nexus]

isn't there uh some KVM app

[lone mango]

Can also set a default resolution so you dont have to keep changing resolution every video

Finally i am at peace

[idle nexus]

I used it forever ago

[fresh timber]

idk, if their is i want it

[lone mango]

enhancer for youtube has a whole bar of stuff and for the speed icon you can scroll up and down to change it

incredible

[idle nexus]

one of the other kinda redeeming qualities of OneDrive is every program I download I make a folder for

well I try to

[wise wigeon]

not for youtube only

in general

[idle nexus]

so it's like a history list of all the crap I've downlaoded

[lone mango]

Oh

Nah

[wise wigeon]

i need it because i watch a lot of prerecorded lectures

and sometimes they lock it to 1x speed

but sometimes they're slow enough talkers i watch at like 2.7x

[idle nexus]

I mean worst case you could use TeamViewer lol

[fresh timber]

debloating

i should have done a custom os man

too late

deep in alr

[idle nexus]

Wiztree is heckin cool to see what you're wasting space on

[wise wigeon]

eh i've tried cusstom windows os in the past

[fresh timber]

i love wizz tree

[idle nexus]

Ghost-Spectre is pretty good

[fresh timber]

i need windows to be able to run 24/7 and not have issues

[wise wigeon]

feel like they're never as good as they hype

[idle nexus]

& it has this Ghost program thing with it to disable crap

[fresh timber]

i have a ubuntu vm running my DNS server

If it goes down i get alot of issues

[idle nexus]

you could use a docker instead supposedly

[fresh timber]

o yeah i know

i just dont feel like it

learning curve i dont feel like doing lol

[idle nexus]

Zorin OS is a pretty decent Linux distro btw

I use it on my otherwise useless SurfaceGo2 lol

[tranquil pebble]

I like EndeavorOS

[fresh timber]

i need to find a new motherboard so i can use two ram sticks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZZr88Q

[idle nexus]

one of the channels doesn't work?

[fresh timber]

nope

[hoary zodiac]

Pacman + aur is peak linux package management

[fresh timber]

spent a few days, two diffrent cpus, known working ram sticks, dead channel

real world, proably not

just put cpu in and use it

:p

idk then, niche

[lone mango]

Hardware unboxed shows that there is quite some variance in performance when it comes to boards, even in gaming

[fresh timber]

i dont wanna buy a new motherboard sigh

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8MJgXL/asrock-a520m-phantom-gaming-4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-a520m-phantom-gaming-4 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T6YmP6/asus-tuf-gaming-a520m-plus-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-a520m-plus-wifi which one

[lone mango]

Higher price does not automatically mean better

[wise wigeon]

they're hella cheap bro

[fresh timber]

i know

im just getting low on money

[lone mango]

Some boards are cheaper and outperform others

Asrock for example

[wise wigeon]

and what are you even doing on this pc that require more than a bare min board

[fresh timber]

i sent bare minuaml boreds im choosing from kek

[lone mango]

What price are you looking to buy at

[fresh timber]

im liking the a520m pahntom gaming for that 2nd pcie slot, easy slot for 10gig ccard or what ever if i ever do that

[lone mango]

What platform

[fresh timber]

intel

isnt it just vrms, i use a z790

juicy vrms

[wise wigeon]

lol my brother has this board https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RD97YJ/asrock-b450m-hdv-r40-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-hdv-r40

i uh

[fresh timber]

LMFAO thast the bettre verson of my "dead" one rn

[wise wigeon]

it was a bad time to build a pc

[hoary zodiac]

Sus vrms

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gtPKHx/asrock-a320m-hdv-r40-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-a320m-hdv-r40 i use

lmfaoooo

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair in the b450 eras boards were a bit more of a mixed bag

Nowadays they're surprisingly good for how cheap they can be

[wise wigeon]

back when the tomohawk was the crazy fav

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah definitely the tomahawk was a budget beast

Sub $200 board that can handle say

Pff

A X3D even

[wise wigeon]

bro do we really need this convo again?

[fresh timber]

is their really a big diffrence between b550 and a520m

@wise wigeon

[wise wigeon]

what was your use case

what?

[fresh timber]

my server

🤓

[hoary zodiac]

Is this happening again...

[fresh timber]

yes

[wise wigeon]

you're asking the same question we had a heated convo over just a couple hours back

[hoary zodiac]

Look

Can we not

I'm speaking to everyone in this convo

[wise wigeon]

we just dont need to tread over the same waters

[hoary zodiac]

Do not engage with each other

[lone mango]

I dont know much about intel but this seems pretty good
https://a.co/d/dHBV9zy

[fresh timber]

if ur going to blow up just log off

easy

[wise wigeon]

now he knows how to use an @

[idle nexus]

something like this might work but I can't find the one I used like 4 years ago https://acrosscenter.com/

[idle nexus]

you reseated CPU?

[wise wigeon]

bro thought you blocked me

[fresh timber]

tried 2 cpus, known working ram, its a dad channel

[hoary zodiac]

Guys please

Gentlemen let's not

[fresh timber]

ur not 5, learn to ignore people

[idle nexus]

it might've been AccessToGo RDP I used

[fresh timber]

try a bit harder and ur good :p

[idle nexus]

that's the only one of the 10 million uninstalled apps that seems like it might've been the one lol

[wise wigeon]

i merely said that because you seem to blow up when you ask a question without using an @ so its hard to tell you you're talking to man

[fresh timber]

anyways @wise wigeon motherboard talk, whats the main diffrences between a520 and b550

[lone mango]

Yo did you check that board

Goes hard

[idle nexus]

Microsoft has a Remote Desktop app

[fresh timber]

i use moonlight

[idle nexus]

that apparently I already have installed? wth lol

[fresh timber]

moonlight has better quality, you should try it

[hoary zodiac]

That was meant for everyone

Not just you

[wise wigeon]

main thing i guess would be no OC

[fresh timber]

that aint such a big deal, '

[idle nexus]

check shopgoodwill.com

sometimes you can get stuff for the low

also woot.com

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't woot the amazon site?

[wise wigeon]

it is

[lone mango]

Yeah

I forgot to go n it

[fresh timber]

i wish the b550 motherboard had the two pcie slots like this man

[idle nexus]

lol

oh look

[wise wigeon]

the good will spooks

[idle nexus]

there's a B540 Aorus Micro ATX

[hoary zodiac]

Is that GDDR6?

Oh wait

Super

[lone mango]

Bro there really be treasure in all the trash im not kidding

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it's gddr6

[idle nexus]

supposedly ya

[lone mango]

You really can find gold over there fr

[hoary zodiac]

$159.99 kinda mid tbh

It's an old card

[wise wigeon]

not at mine but yeah i've seen it online

[hoary zodiac]

Pretty close to msrp

[wise wigeon]

its like walmarts for pc parts ymmv

[idle nexus]

damn this would've been clutchh

$60 B550 lol

[hoary zodiac]

Not bad

[wise wigeon]

like my walmart for some reason sells 7800x3ds for 400

which is good

[hoary zodiac]

Are strix any good tho

[idle nexus]

how is the B450 MicroATX $99? the heck

[wise wigeon]

but it was too late

[hoary zodiac]

Feels like a lot of the times you're paying for the plastic rather than actual quality