general-chat

[velvet summit]

just clear off everything and start over then

[storm narwhal]

So you're sure there's no data you want to keep on all of those disks?

[unreal chasm]

Yea

[storm narwhal]

Then yeah kill all of it

[unreal chasm]

I wanna wipe them completely

Should I delete all partions including drive partions?

[storm narwhal]

All of it

[unreal chasm]

Like primary partions?

Okay

[storm narwhal]

So yes

[unreal chasm]

Ohh okay I got it now

[balmy solstice]

so many partitions

[fresh timber]

Yall know what I did?

I ordered a new cpu

[balmy solstice]

nice

for a laptop?

[surreal comet]

I now have a small nuclear power plant on my desk

[fresh timber]

What laptop

[surreal comet]

Winning

[fresh timber]

I ordered a ryzen 5, 5500 and a usb stick to upgrade the hops

Bios

[balmy solstice]

3rd leg incoming

[sage sluice]

Already have one

[fresh timber]

My desktops boot drive is in Jerel ok

What I suspect is cpu or motherboard has dead ram channel

[balmy solstice]

no ssd screw scares me

[fresh timber]

Great excuse for a new cpu :))

Note to self, when I use this cpu for a nas I have to use a single ram stick not two

[balmy solstice]

do you know what cpu-z is

[fresh timber]

Yeah

Too late

I already stripped it

[balmy solstice]

[fresh timber]

I’ll cpu z it Tommrow

With the r5 5500

[balmy solstice]

but

how much you pay for that

[fresh timber]

$80

[balmy solstice]

that your main pc?

[fresh timber]

Haha no

Main has a 13600kf

[balmy solstice]

I was about to say

[fresh timber]

You think I’d really daily a 2300x

Mf slow as frogs

[balmy solstice]

ion know gang, some people missed the update of inexpensive cpu availability

[fresh timber]

lol

A lot of am4 is cheap

I would go 5700 but the 5500 is already a giant leap in performance

4t-12t not even including other improvements like ipc

I’ll be enjoy good single core performance

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808061863418.html?

[fresh timber]

as of now, the server runs faster ram than my gaming rig kek

[sweet phoenix]

5600 is under $70

[tranquil pebble]

I should really put together my 9800x3d stuff

[surreal comet]

True!

[fresh timber]

bad word!

i need a new hdd now

ugh

suprisling 2300x is snappy

until you do stuff on it like game

[tranquil pebble]

raw value is 0

That drive is fine for now

[fresh timber]

That would explain why proxmox reports nothing wrong

[fresh timber]

It’s a seagate, it will die soon

Not now so idc

[tranquil pebble]

hence why I said for now

[fresh timber]

2300x and 7700xt

How bad is that

Lmfao

[tranquil pebble]

massive CPU bottleneck lol

[fresh timber]

How massive we talking, I thought bottlenecks don’t exists :))

[tranquil pebble]

3700x bottlenecked my 6900xt in many cases

[balmy solstice]

depends what you're doing

different processes cause bottlenecks for different reasons

unless you got a ryzen 1 with a 5090

[tranquil pebble]

for gaming, a 2300x will for sure hold back a 7700xt in a lot of cases

[balmy solstice]

then uh

[fresh timber]

Lmfao even with a rx6600 theirs issues

[tranquil pebble]

Zen+ is lackluster on IPC

[frigid stag]

A 2300x would hold back a 1070 even

[fresh timber]

2300x is unseable

[frigid stag]

Zen 1/+ were garbage

Zen 2 was ok ish but still obsolete on launch

Competing with 5 year old intel arch

[balmy solstice]

its use is for a pc hardware class

[frigid stag]

They can’t tell the difference somehow

[balmy solstice]

cuz they only run reddit

[frigid stag]

Cause they haven’t seen anything better I guess

[frigid stag]

It runs games ok if you’re fine with 60 fps

[fresh timber]

They don’t have 4c4t

[tranquil pebble]

then Zen 3 comes zooming in with x3d and Intel was in trouble

[fresh timber]

@tranquil pebble how good is the ryzen 5, 5500 compared to 2300x

[balmy solstice]

I am not fine with 60fps

[frigid stag]

They have 2x 3 cores glued together

[balmy solstice]

my eyes move at 60fps

[frigid stag]

For 3600 at least

[tranquil pebble]

curbstomp on IPC

[frigid stag]

^

[fresh timber]

Good good

[mortal grail]

💀💀💀

[frigid stag]

5500 should be like ryzen 3600x

[fresh timber]

It is

That’s what I’m upgrading that system too

[frigid stag]

At least it’s monolithic it’s decent

[tranquil pebble]

I am upgrading from 5700x3d to 9800x3d...

[fresh timber]

And when I get a job it’s getting an 5700x3d *beats my gaming pc 😦 *

[frigid stag]

It’s a whole 6 cores instead of 2x3

[fresh timber]

5700x3d should curb stomp a 13600kf in gaming right

the funny thing is, this system has faster ram than my gaming pc, but i have dual channel so im faster wahaha

okay im putting my nvme back in my gaming rig, 4c4t is painful to use

[balmy solstice]

the world is changing for you, the ocean is parting for the path between your 5700x3d and your 9800x3d, the sun will rise and set with your new pc

[frigid stag]

Nah it’s the opposite

[fresh timber]

Both on ddr4?

[frigid stag]

13600k should be faster

Ye

[fresh timber]

wtf

[balmy solstice]

it is faster

[fresh timber]

Sad

I thought it blew me out the water

[balmy solstice]

idk about against a 7800x3d tho

[fresh timber]

I 100% loose

[tranquil pebble]

9800x3d gives literally ALL Intel CPUs a challenge in gaming

[balmy solstice]

I can't put down the cup 🥤

[fresh timber]

When I buy ram ima buy my server 64gb

[tranquil pebble]

I got 96 GB of DDR5 going with my 9800x3d

(I have my reasons)

[balmy solstice]

odd number scary

[fresh timber]

I’m saving to get a new gpu, and more ram in my server

[tranquil pebble]

2 x 48 GB

[balmy solstice]

where 128

[fresh timber]

Isn’t the max for ddr4 32gb per stick

[balmy solstice]

let me give you an extra stick

[frigid stag]

Challenge accepted

Just need a 14900Kf and some fast ram and I can see what it does

[balmy solstice]

nah it's 64

[frigid stag]

I thought it was 32

[balmy solstice]

that's up to your mobo

[frigid stag]

There’s no quad rank ddr4 afaik

[frigid stag]

?

[fresh timber]

I swear it’s 32

[frigid stag]

It’s the sticks they sell

I didn’t know they made 2x64gb kits for ddr4

[fresh timber]

Cause if I can get 64gb ram sticks for my server.. sense I only can accept two sticks

[tranquil pebble]

largest DDR4 sticks I know of are 256 GB units... and they are MAD expensive

[fresh timber]

We talking about regular consumer stuff

[frigid stag]

Well ye that’s server stuff

[tranquil pebble]

also require special hw to even use

[fresh timber]

Ain’t no special server hardware that cost my leg to buy

[balmy solstice]

just get a ddr5 stick

[fresh timber]

How

[tranquil pebble]

yeah for that last I checked 48 GB was the largest DIMM

[fresh timber]

Ddr5 doesn’t go in ddr4

[tranquil pebble]

and if you somehow get it forced in there... you will fry things

kinda like trying to put an Intel CPU into an AMD socket or vice versa

[balmy solstice]

thats why I always ask consent before I shove ram into slots

that way I know which ram to put in

[fresh timber]

lol

[tranquil pebble]

if the notch doesnt line up, dont force it... that simple lol

[fresh timber]

Added to list

[spark halo]

If your going to buy that just get ddr5

Being serious.

The biggest mistake i ever did was an improper oc thus board go boom

[balmy solstice]

pretty sure they can only get ddr4

[fresh timber]

I don’t think am4 can accept ddr5

[worn wave]

Don't get Corsair

[spark halo]

And that was after 2 years of running those settings

[fresh timber]

Did I hear Corsair?

[balmy solstice]

no it can't

g.skill where

[spark halo]

It cant simply sell your rig

[fresh timber]

I should sell my rig but I’m lazy

[spark halo]

Keep the gpu and swap it with a lesser one

Unless you also need to upgrade the gpu?

[fresh timber]

I just want like $1200-1300 for my pc if I sold it kek

Save $500 of my own

Easy

Easy 9800x3d and what ever gpu I can afford after that

Just major downgrade on the looks department

[frigid stag]

How come

U upgrading it?

[balmy solstice]

you dont need to upgrade the whole rig

[fresh timber]

No if u wanna upgrade anything besides gpu I might as well sell my platform minimal

[spark halo]

Honestly its true

[fresh timber]

Rn it does what I need just fine but it’s a what if type thing rn

[frigid stag]

Ddr4 on 14900k isn’t that much different tbh

[surreal comet]

Accept your fate

[frigid stag]

That board can handle it for sure

[spark halo]

Your legit getting minimal gains and paying more

[fresh timber]

after using the 2300x for not even a hour i realised i like my cpu again

[spark halo]

By not doing it

[frigid stag]

From 13600k? It’s far from minimal

[balmy solstice]

which amd gpu you got

[fresh timber]

2300x is back in its rightful home

may have 8gb ram for a day, but its fast asf ram

[spark halo]

Are they also upgrading the cpu and ocing?

Within safe limits

[fresh timber]

i dont think i really said anything about upgrading my main rig

only my 2nd rig has been what im talking about

main pc cost too much to upgrade anything rn

[balmy solstice]

then stick with ddr4

[surreal comet]

Do y'all keep the video output plugs in

[fresh timber]

i never mentioned upgrading to ddr5 kek

[dusk knot]

hm

[fresh timber]

i do, i installed a virtual video driver

on my 2nd pc

vm

techncily its a vm

[balmy solstice]

stick with your build

you just need some more ram

🫰

[fresh timber]

that was my plan for the server..

[balmy solstice]

i do have some extra ram sticks lying around somewhere

[fresh timber]

asrock says the motherboard im using supports upt to a 105w cpu. meaning if i wanna go anything i go x3d

its back ❤️

tommrow i get to enoy the massive ipc uplift ill get

[balmy solstice]

impulse buying

be careful

[fresh timber]

theirs a reason i didnt go for like a ryzen 7 kek

The system rn

Yes I have a 240mm AIO on it

[balmy solstice]

500 watt

[fresh timber]

CPU only pulls like 50w too Lmfaoo, I can run it with out the fans

Fans are purely cause funny

[frigid stag]

That’s an interesting setup

Expensive aio and that motherboard

[fresh timber]

What spare parts does to a mf

You should see the boot ssd

I need to replace it with a nvme one day

I’ll get nvme when I do ram upgrade, 1tb is cheap

[frigid stag]

Sata isn’t that bad

At least it’s not hdd

[fresh timber]

Fast enough lel

[fresh timber]

Wanna know the story

That used to be the AIO in my main rig, and it’s been sitting doing nothing and I thought, hey I could prob mount on my server

So I did, and I like how quiet it is under load

It’s so good I’m under 70c with the fans unplugged

[frigid stag]

Fair enough if it keeps it cool

Might need a 2nd one for your main tho

[fresh timber]

Main has a 360 rad

Barley contains the 13600kf lmfao

Unless I under volt then I’m good

[gentle canyon]

https://youtu.be/8s4hxa2TjWY?si=y0mIojWmWjHfNU7n

taking a shot at newegg instantly lol

[dusk knot]

yeah......

newegg needs to get a hold on these scalpers

and these useless bundles

[fresh timber]

not on nahtualys watch

[dusk knot]

naht for CEO

she would care

she actrally has a heart

smh

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-gif-24147861

[hearty urchin]

Sup fam, anyone have a minute?

[fresh timber]

no

[hearty urchin]

So, my brother and I lost power in our apartment today. Unfortunately, his computer faced its demise as it suddenly isn’t able to turn on. I’ve tried taking the good ol’ power supply out and replacing it with another one I had lying around from another build. Lol poor dude wasn’t able to get his computer to turn on tonight but that’s probably because I didn’t have the power button connected properly to the mobo. So… Any guesses on how the PSU died though?

[hoary zodiac]

Have you verified that the psu is actually dead?

[hearty urchin]

Yeah.. I tried taking it and replacing it in the other build I had. Nothing happens.

[fresh timber]

so psu kaboom

wanna know what u should do to prevent this

[hearty urchin]

No smells

[hoary zodiac]

So it doesn't turn in with a second psu?

Could be another faulty part

[hearty urchin]

He had the switch off everytime he shut off the pc

[fresh timber]

https://a.co/d/fTnD9lo

try one of these

[hoary zodiac]

Or psu + another dead part

[velvet summit]

power surge from a power outage can kill psus sometimes tbf
a good surge protector should prevent this

[fresh timber]

ngl we should start recomending ups systems

[velvet summit]

that wont do anything, usually the switch only disconnects either the hot side or the neutral

[fresh timber]

one of you replace the 3 in ur name with a 5

[hearty urchin]

No indication light on the motherboard?

[hoary zodiac]

With the new psu?

[hearty urchin]

Any psu

[velvet summit]

343 is my name

[fresh timber]

other one should do it then

[pliant berry]

many have always recommended ups but many people don't like to spend money on them. also the cyberpower ones I wouldn't say are the best

[hoary zodiac]

Surge could have fried more than just the psu

[velvet summit]

there's like 4 of us now

[hearty urchin]

Would that mean a part could be faulty? Like the cpu?

Hm…

[fresh timber]

people dont like spending money on keeping ur $3000 pc safe??

[velvet summit]

also yeah i've always been an advocate for UPS but a decent one is often outside of the budget of most people

i personally use one, even replaced the battery due to the age

[fresh timber]

i ned to buy one

[velvet summit]

you don't need a UPS to keep your pc safe

[hearty urchin]

Lol or a GFI

[velvet summit]

you just need a good surge protector

[hoary zodiac]

Sometimes when a psu dies it take another part/s

[pliant berry]

well most people don't have a 3k pc. more like 1k pc on a 900usd budget

[fresh timber]

what if ur in the middle of a project and ur pc shuts off 😦 and ur windows corrupts it self

😦

[velvet summit]

ground fault interrupters do NOT protect your pc/electronics, only humans/pets

[hoary zodiac]

Who spends 3k on a gaming pc

Lmao

[hearty urchin]

Haha 😆

[fresh timber]

r/watercooling

https://www.youtube.com/@TechSource

this guy

bunch of tiktok kiddos

[velvet summit]

whole house surge protector, or a per-outlet surge protector will be what protects your electronics

[hearty urchin]

It’s a standard outlet though, mostly joking

[velvet summit]

not standard here outside of the kitchen and bathrooms, and outdoor sockets tbh

in north america

[hearty urchin]

Good to know

[hoary zodiac]

Switches should be standard on outlets

[velvet summit]

more common for there to be gfi breakers in the EU and such

meh

that's honestly one of the things that i dont give a heck about

[hearty urchin]

Ah yes I’m based in the U.S

[hoary zodiac]

Every Australian outlet has a switch

Or

[velvet summit]

most things i keep plugged in i don't want to turn off
things i want to unplug are often stored elsewhere so i would unplug it anyways

[hoary zodiac]

There's the UK plug

UK plug + switch = peak safety

[velvet summit]

one thing i do wish we had though

standard 240v

120v is just dumb

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah aren't y'all on 120

[velvet summit]

"but it's safer" no.

[hearty urchin]

Yes

[velvet summit]

mfs dont know you can be killed with just 48v and such

💀

[hearty urchin]

How do you mean? You have me curious

[hoary zodiac]

Have y'all tried flipping the voltage switch?

[hearty urchin]

I touch 120V all the time haha

[velvet summit]

the thing is, we have 240v

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

[velvet summit]

we use split phase

our house gets 240v coming in between 2 split phases from the transformer

[hearty urchin]

Where?

[fresh timber]

my washng machine is 240v

[hoary zodiac]

The psu

Don't flip it

If it even had one

[pliant berry]

many high power utilities in US households are on 240v

[hoary zodiac]

Do modern ATX psus automatically switch voltages?

[velvet summit]

me when

me when

[hearty urchin]

Yeah no it doesn’t have a voltage switch, also he tried just unplugging the pc and holding down the power button as well to see if he could extract any remaining energy left inside the pc.. Also sorry it took a bit to send this got distracted

[hoary zodiac]

ok good

Do not flip it under any circumstances

It will blow up your pc

[nocturne flicker]

I see C2 but what about C4

[hoary zodiac]

It's only really on older psus

Modern psus are idiot proof

[velvet summit]

we don't get those in residential housing frfr

[hoary zodiac]

CS2

[velvet summit]

amboutablo

[frigid stag]

older psus were more fun

[hoary zodiac]

S12iii

[frigid stag]

could overclock them

[hoary zodiac]

👍🏻

[hearty urchin]

Actually the psu we put in was a lower amount of power by like 100 watts 🤔

[hoary zodiac]

How do you overclock a psu lmao

Does it adjust the efficiency or something

[hearty urchin]

But you’d still be able to get it to boot I would think

[frigid stag]

idek i saw it on some forum

from the late 2000s

[fresh timber]

yes

[hearty urchin]

I’m not trying that haha

[hoary zodiac]

You know what else can be overclocked?...

[hearty urchin]

Deez components

[frigid stag]

Oh it’s like a voltage mod

[fresh timber]

i have a old psu, aparenlty its from a repeable brand so its prob not even a fire hazard

[frigid stag]

Fair

[hoary zodiac]

Bro is in on the joke

👀

How

[hearty urchin]

Oh snap lol

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

Wait until I show the power color

[hearty urchin]

“Why is it so big?”

[fresh timber]

This is too big

[hearty urchin]

That case is just tiny

[fresh timber]

Funny this is small compared to other gpus

[hearty urchin]

Ooooo jeez

[frigid stag]

Looks like the stuff today just more colorful

[hoary zodiac]

Speaking of colorful

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

Do they make gpus nowadays?

[hearty urchin]

But does it gaming??

[frigid stag]

[hearty urchin]

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

Thermaltake rgb psu

[frigid stag]

It probably could run a modern gpu ngl

[hearty urchin]

Bro yes the flames of power

[frigid stag]

They’re 800w but idk if they’re safe anymore

[hoary zodiac]

Run 12vhpwr on it

[frigid stag]

They used to be 400 bucks wtf

[fresh timber]

why does my gpu sell for $495

[frigid stag]

Probably old listing from gpu shortage

[fresh timber]

who wants to bu ya rx6600 for $300

steal

[hearty urchin]

Do you take doge?

[fresh timber]

umm

[hearty urchin]

[fresh timber]

department of government efficency?

[hearty urchin]

More like… bitcoin

[mortal grail]

300 php sure

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCddGJ

my server

[frigid stag]

😭

[fresh timber]

o no chat i ran into a pickle

the motherboard doesnt officaly support 64gb but i suspect it will still work

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/grinding-driving-on-the-rim-sparks-flat-tire-wont-stop-gif-14245033

[velvet summit]

me when i get tired

[proud jackal]

Metaphor for my life

[north crescent]

Someone was too energetic and caused an accident, thus being tired in plural sense is required

[dense locust]

do tires use 12vhpwr too?

[velvet summit]

they use air

[dense locust]

do they catch on fire during normal use?

[frigid stag]

burn outs

but no

[velvet summit]

normal use? maybe if you add gasoline

[dense locust]

just redefine "normal use"

[misty sparrow]

tokyo drift

https://tenor.com/view/drift-gif-26311209

[fair onyx]

@pliant berry @hoary zodiacFigured I'd pop in and say I STILL have no info on my order 😭

I'm gonna blow up

[misty sparrow]

the backpack is a lie

[velvet summit]

why does this kinda look like darude

[storm narwhal]

Average FRV in helldivers

[hoary zodiac]

One of my friends got his

He live in philly

So not surprised

[fresh timber]

One of my fans, or multiply are going bad 😦

i need a new psu

[sinful blade]

Bad hinge

Remount them/wd40

[craggy shoal]

"hinge"

[fresh timber]

hinge

[craggy shoal]

definitely a belt my guy

[sinful blade]

SHUT

[fresh timber]

im not in the mood to buy a new psu

[craggy shoal]

it's the timing belt yeah

[fresh timber]

;/

[sinful blade]

I can’t remember the WORDS

[mortal grail]

Lol

[sinful blade]

It’s midnight on a Monday

[mortal grail]

Dude got the hamster wheel sound pack

[sinful blade]

Wd40 all your fans

Destroy your f tier PSU

[fresh timber]

diffrent psu

that one is quiet

[fresh timber]

my 850w manages to be in my opinion worst just cause of sound

[craggy shoal]

guys you think this gmc truck will run?

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5 this psu bad

it loud

😦

just buy corsair

[craggy shoal]

or SeaSonic

or EVGA

Or just look at the tier list

(NZXT but obviously don't because you know)

[fresh timber]

just because its b tier doesnt mean its quiet

😭

[craggy shoal]

(Now I have like two or three NZXT PSUs, before their incident of course)

[dense locust]

make one yourself whats the worst that can happen? house fire? material wealth can be replaced

[fresh timber]

I forgot to set my server to silent fan curve

[mortal grail]

How the hell did you get hamsters in ur msi psu

[craggy shoal]

Just overclock the Dell PSU that supplies as much power as the system's CPU's TDP

[fresh timber]

Ima just unplug the fans sense it doesn’t matter

[sinful blade]

850w refurb for $70 on Corsairs website

[fresh timber]

It’s funny how the fans on my servers AIO doesn’t make a difference

Ran a full load no fans, didn’t break 60c

[dense locust]

this you? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1045452895434321930/1338024020318224425/image0.jpg?ex=67b4c839&is=67b376b9&hm=b6969d44638057b7c8a5c1dbb5b2259a5d14068af75ac75e63184aac47d35b90&=&format=webp&width=1368&height=1306

[craggy shoal]

Just get a nice outdated TX850m like I did (it's still powering my PC and it's been through like maybe three platform changes lmao)

[craggy shoal]

This guy is playing with fire 😭

[sinful blade]

I think it’s time to update

[dense locust]

that psu fighing for its life

[sinful blade]

If you’re talking years in between

[craggy shoal]

nah if my CX650m is powering my server after chugging for ten years, I'd say my TX850m I got a couple years later has a couple years more

(I should really change my server's PSU before something happens to it 💀)

[mortal grail]

Bro playing 1080p low and not even pulling his pc out of idle state

[craggy shoal]

I have no idea how many system configurations my CX650m has seen bruh. I got that thing in 2016 and it powered an FX 8350 at the time lolll

[sinful blade]

Seems like a lot of psus start to fail after 8-10 years

So yeah I’d suggest replacing that 650m soon

[craggy shoal]

a cheapish (a-tier) 750W PSU should be fine

[sinful blade]

Yeah

[mortal grail]

I know a hamster wheel one about to hit the market used

[sinful blade]

Get a refurbished one

I’m going back to Corsair for the suggestion

$60 for a 750w non modular

With warranty

[craggy shoal]

Unless I just shuffle some power supplies around. I have an NZXT C1000 that I still want to put in my main build and then I can put my TX850m in my future Intel build. The 750W PSU that's currently in the Intel build should go into that server. Now I've made all of you read a paragraph regarding how I'm going to save ~$100

sorry for the paragraph

[dense locust]

i got a coarsair rm1000x for my 5080

will work i guess

when did psus get so expensive tho

[craggy shoal]

Oh not to mention the Cooler Master (Master V Master S Master F Master X) Master 850 Master Watt Master PSU that I got back from my gf

[slate fractal]

what if i played with you instead

[craggy shoal]

my gf plays with me bro

[sinful blade]

Covid

[craggy shoal]

She's going to say not nice things to you

[sinful blade]

They’ve never come back down

[craggy shoal]

I need to sleep

[slate fractal]

fr mine keeps saying its gonna bite me

[mortal grail]

She playin fr

[slate fractal]

is that bad??

[craggy shoal]

gonna have my gf play with me before I sleep though

[craggy shoal]

normal gf activities. nothing to worry about

[mortal grail]

Ur not lego bruh

[slate fractal]

do i need to turn mine off and back on

[craggy shoal]

I am to her ;)

[slate fractal]

i think its malfunctioning

[mortal grail]

The gf?

[craggy shoal]

yeah

[fresh timber]

I need to find a truly silent psu and truly silent fans

[mortal grail]

Bro getting his body parts shuffled around

Tomorrow he has the head of george washington

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/cPmByU4IZH4.gif

[mortal grail]

Day after torso swapped with that of a policeman

[fresh timber]

Two 120mm of these and two 140mm should do the trick

[dense locust]

my god i forgot how expensive their fans are

[mortal grail]

P12 max and p14 max is basically same thing

Or tl b12.tl b14

[slate fractal]

would i be able to run fortnite on integrated graphics of a random intel core i5 8th gen cpu or will my computer get jiggy place your bets

[mortal grail]

The tl's are gt clones like noctua

[fresh timber]

Are they brown

[mortal grail]

I bet like 30 fps until you fight and then it's 6

[fresh timber]

I managed 30fps in a 11600k Igpu

[mortal grail]

Brown wasn't in the og bruv

[slate fractal]

i used like half my budget on the ram

that being said my budget was basically 120 bucks

i could always download more ram

[fresh timber]

😭😭 $60 of fans nvm

I’ll tune the fan curve Tommrow

It’s set too high rn

[slate fractal]

are fans really that important??

i mean 60 dollars is a whole cod game

[dense locust]

not anymore arent they $70 now

[fresh timber]

Fr

For $60 fans arnt important, I’ll just have them locked at the lowest rpm possible and call it a day

[slate fractal]

its working its working

[dense locust]

just dont use a case no fans needed

[slate fractal]

its delaying like crazy but it boots up

im not even gonna try loading in a match i just want to admire the lobby

[fresh timber]

It will play

[fresh timber]

Unironically that system doesn’t even need fans on the cooler

[fair onyx]

JUST SO YOU KNOW

[wise wigeon]

I’m so tored

[fair onyx]

I have the maxes

They are unbearably loud

[slate fractal]

my case is from a dell precision 3430 sff it only has the cpu cooler no other fans

[fair onyx]

trust me, you do NOT need the max's

they are the loudest fans I have EVER heard

[wise wigeon]

After I worked out my stuff I helped build my brothers itd

[fair onyx]

like. They are so loud you can hear them across the house if I turn them up

[wise wigeon]

Itx

[fresh timber]

How Loud at like 700-800rpm

[mortal grail]

Quiet

[fresh timber]

That’s my target for fans

[fair onyx]

not too loud, but then you don't need the max's

[mortal grail]

They're loud at over 1800 rpm

[fair onyx]

the max's go to 3200 RPM IIRC

[mortal grail]

<Also own a ton of them

[fair onyx]

they move an obscene amount of air

[mortal grail]

I think I'm up to like nearly 20 p12m's atm

[fair onyx]

trust me, save a few bucks and get the normal ones. I never run them anywhere near even the max speed of the normal version, letalone the Max version

[wise wigeon]

@velvet summit did Keith ever figure out the issue?

[mortal grail]

The normals are no different to max up until 1800

In fact quieter cos of rubber damping

[mortal grail]

I changed name lol. Found out it was too confusing for all of us lmao

And yes

He got it working

Unplugged his ssd's, it started working with zero issue

So something's not happy between the m.2 and the gpu

[gentle canyon]

Your PC part stash has got to be crazy I bet

[mortal grail]

I'm almost at 100 arctic fans at this point

Lmao

[gentle canyon]

wild

[mortal grail]

Cos they're the cheapest best fans in AU by a mile

If anyone wants to call me a shill of anything

That's a good one

[fair onyx]

@fresh timber

thats about 3 feet away from the case lmao

and thats only 2 of them 😭

even 1 of them will fully drown out my 3090 at 100% fans, and its not even close

[gentle canyon]

besides fans whats the other part you have the most of

[mortal grail]

Mmmm....

[gentle canyon]

the fact you have to think

is concerning

[mortal grail]

Probably Alphacool fittings I think

I have about 4 packs

So maybe 50 odd?

[gentle canyon]

gotta show us the part stash sometime

[mortal grail]

I am currently building computers out of it to sell most of it off

[mortal grail]

Gotta keep them under 1800 unless you're running hot af lol

Sub 1800 they're just regulars with extra vibration dampers

So technically better with fdb

Beyond yeah it gets loud

[wise wigeon]

@mortal grail I’ve been in like purgatory the last few hours

[mortal grail]

But hell they work lol

[mortal grail]

What's up

[wise wigeon]

Nah just fate my stuff I had to help my brother with his fractal ridge

[mortal grail]

Ridge is that tiny router looking thing innit

[wise wigeon]

And when we got to testing it would not take my 3080 fans were spinning at max etc.

Turns out like the pcie extensions were not seated fully

[gentle canyon]

thats awesome but also crazy you can build multiple (im assuming complete systems) out of parts you just have lying around

[mortal grail]

Ah yeah

[mortal grail]

I'm building an itx pc out of an egpu box rn

[fresh timber]

I don’t like

[mortal grail]

Just gotta test a usb card*

[fresh timber]

In about to put my server in a closet to avoid sound

[wise wigeon]

Because one connects directly to mobo and then there is another that just raises the height

Turns out both were not fully in

[mortal grail]

Makes sense

It works now?

[wise wigeon]

Yeah

[mortal grail]

Nice

[wise wigeon]

I would like to take the fans out though

[mortal grail]

Ridge is really good for small footprint

Fans out of the gpu?

[wise wigeon]

It fits with the fast but they’re so close that the fans frame makes contact with the gpu body

[mortal grail]

Ah

Rattle?

Suggestion

[wise wigeon]

And I’m worried that with the gpu is at zero rpm the fans are strong enough to spin them

[mortal grail]

You could take the gpu apart, remove the shroud

Measure the width

[storm narwhal]

Passive cooling GPU

[wise wigeon]

And it’ll screw with the bearings on the gpus fans

[mortal grail]

If the fans are maybe like

15 mm thick with the shroud?

Go get thermalright c12015's

[wise wigeon]

There is no rattle or anything

[mortal grail]

2 of them, slap them onto the heatsink

Ah

[wise wigeon]

It’s quiet

[mortal grail]

Well if they aren't being held back by the case then you should be ok

[wise wigeon]

I’m just worried the gpu fan bearings could get screwed up

[mortal grail]

Yeah

[fair onyx]

Yeah, they are loud as hell lmao

I never run them over MAYBE 50%

[slate fractal]

im just gonna go back to minecraft servers, thats about the only thing this contraption can run well

[wise wigeon]

Because when idle the gpu is like 30c and is at zero rpm

And the 140mms being so close

[mortal grail]

Do you hear any like whirring or whooshing

If you don't it's probably ok

[wise wigeon]

I fear they’ll spin em a bit too much while the gpu is zero rpm

[mortal grail]

Oh that

Use fancontrol

[gentle canyon]

my 6950xt idles at 50c with 0 rpm

[mortal grail]

Fancontrol you can sync case fans to gpu

Ez

[wise wigeon]

Oh ok

[mortal grail]

Match rpms and everything

[wise wigeon]

Cool beans

[mortal grail]

Ye

Use separate curves for both, you can match rpms

Then there's less noise

Out of sync rpms can add noise

[storm narwhal]

Calculate the exact resonance frequency of the fans

[mortal grail]

Nah just rpm match

Don't overthink it

[storm narwhal]

Make them cancel each other out like noise cancelling

[gentle canyon]

ykw ive actually never used fan control with my new case swap and thermalright fans let me do that rq

[storm narwhal]

Genius

[gentle canyon]

kinda forgot ngl

[lone mango]

[storm narwhal]

No please just rpm match

[fresh timber]

I
Let bios Handel it

[woven turret]

my headset comes today

[gentle canyon]

with my case fans on max, I guess thats good

[fresh timber]

I made flat 15% curve that ramps with cpu a little and call it a day

[gentle canyon]

these thermalrights are actually super quiet at max rpm

[fresh timber]

In reality all I need is 15-20% rpm

More is useless sound for a few degrees

[gentle canyon]

One of my fans listed on my controller is way higher RPM than everything else, would that be my AIO pump?

[lone mango]

Yeah

[gentle canyon]

What should that be set to

like RPM wise

or should I rpm match it to something

[fresh timber]

Let pump do its thing

Really no point to touch pump unless it’s loud

[gentle canyon]

Mk

Leaving it alone it sits at 2500 rpm, is that normal?

[lone mango]

What is the highest it can go

[gentle canyon]

3450ish

Manually setting it to max I can actually hear it

Letting it do its thing I can't notice it over case fans

[lone mango]

yeah keep it set at whatever percentage 2500 is

but keep it at that rpm forever

[wise wigeon]

How

[lone mango]

You add a curve with the plus button and make it respond to gpu temperature

Sorry graph

Click graph

Then a graph curve will appear on the bottom and you change the temp source

[wise wigeon]

Like this?

[lone mango]

Yeah so now you have the graph

Then you gotta find which of those fan numbers are the fans you want to control

Then you assign that curve to whichever fan it is

[wise wigeon]

Do I click rpm mode to sync rpm’s?

[lone mango]

Wym

[wise wigeon]

I wanna since the rpms

Sync*

[lone mango]

Oh so each fan is a different connection?

[wise wigeon]

Or at least have the other fan off while the gpu fans are off

[lone mango]

If so then you have to find whichever one the second fan is and assign the curve to that too

[wise wigeon]

It’s just they’re vastly different rpms because one is a pair of 140s and the other is the gpu fans that go up to 3000rpm

But with the curve sync if the gpu is at 0% the gpu is too?

[slate fractal]

what are you even talking about

[wise wigeon]

I mean the fans

[slate fractal]

rpm??

[wise wigeon]

Sorry I’m like dying rn

[mortal grail]

You can use hwinfo to read the fan rpms and make number same as other number

[wise wigeon]

I’m fine as long as the system fans ain’t spinning while the gpu fans ain’t

[mortal grail]

If you don't have zero rpm fans for case fans then they won't sync

You can still make the graphs behave the same

Run both at the highest minimum rpm

[wise wigeon]

Ok so synced graph is prob the best I’m getting?

[mortal grail]

Ye

[wise wigeon]

K

Looks like the base fan curve has the gpu fans at 30% at 30c anyway so

So the whole zero rpm mode gpu issue is just null now

Before I was kind of jealous of his itx build idea

I am now no longer jealous

Unfortunate I couldn’t get the zbar support working

But luckily I have a spare gpu sag tool

Finally found a level to get it perfect too

Here’s hoping that that issue was purely cosmetic

Did you see my box @mortal grail

[rough zinc]

Can I run you at the highest minimum RPM?

[mortal grail]

I need to go sorry

[wise wigeon]

Go with you stuff

Good luck*

[lone mango]

[woven turret]

guys

Steelseries Rival 3 wireless yay or nay?

[elfin mural]

meh

unless price is right

[woven turret]

its on sale

[mortal grail]

It could be on sale for $500 and it's not worth it

But it just appears to have a good discount when something else is miles better

[woven turret]

what would you recommend?

[surreal comet]

Woke up and I already need a nap

[mortal grail]

How much is it

[mortal grail]

GPU been ok?

[surreal comet]

The few stress tests I did I had no issues

Was reaching 100% util fine, runs cool draws full power

Went to bed early so I didn't do too much with it

[mortal grail]

Which model is it?

[surreal comet]

The merc310

"Black edition"

Unsure if that's it's own thing or it's just a random name they give it

[mortal grail]

Nah the black edition bit is just whatever

Oh well that's good, the merc is a nice card

Being quiet makes it better than my merc310 lmao

[surreal comet]

It drew all 400 watts fine so no power delivery issues

[mortal grail]

Nice

So I guess today you figure out which ssd has the issue or which slot

Then go from there

That sounded like a very realistic situation to me so glad you found that

[surreal comet]

I mean

I plugged them all in and they read and write fine?

[mortal grail]

So it's all working now?

[surreal comet]

I can transfer files between the 3, media plays fine

Yeah

[mortal grail]

Ah ok

Weird

If it plays up again go straight for those ssd's

[surreal comet]

Really didn't wanna redownload all that so that's a relief

[mortal grail]

Lol

Cos you can rma an ssd relatively easily

If the problem is reproducible ofc

It's what like $10 to mail anywhere in the world?

[surreal comet]

Probably

[mortal grail]

Just need a little box or clamshell for it tbh

[surreal comet]

I've only got 3 ssds that can go wrong
1tb windows only drive
2tb games/media drive
2tb Linux drive

[woven turret]

its 37,99€

willing to spend up to like 50-60

[mortal grail]

OP1 8K is good

I checked reviews btw

37 is not bad for that

I was defensive about just buying it because I didn't know the price

But uh, op1 8k

Viper v2/v3 pro

Da v3 hyperspeed

I think you might also have some luck with g305/g304

Hero

But that mouse seems ok, if you're taken with steelseries that is

SS isn't first on my list by a mile for products tho

Their program is a bit bloaty

[surreal comet]

I had a steelseries keyboard for a bit, that sucked

[mortal grail]

Their keyboards are loud man

Lmao

Being in a call with one of those

You hear it all

[woven turret]

looking for wireless

[mortal grail]

See the others

There's a wireless one too I believe

OP1

8K just has the nice pixart sensor

[woven turret]

G305 doesn't have own batteries

neither does razer

[mortal grail]

Hyperspeed models do

Oh you know what

My bad

Specifically da v3 hyperspeed

Does not lmao

Viper v3 hyperspeed however does

That one also seems like it'd be about 60 euros

Very very good mouse

[balmy solstice]

🐍

[mortal grail]

Peak sensor, no rgb bs so no synapse required after setting things up, and good optical switches

Also see if you can make heads or tails of this @woven turret

https://www.eloshapes.com/

[woven turret]

doesn't

[mortal grail]

Does

I just looked it up

[woven turret]

it says it takes a AA battery

[mortal grail]

Oh you want a preloaded

I thought you meant you wanted one that takes them

Ah

In that case

Viper v2 pro comes with a battery included

[woven turret]

I actually ordered a metaphyuny something mouse on mechkeys but it was sold out and no one told me

[balmy solstice]

howd you order it if it was sold out

[woven turret]

way out of budget

[mortal grail]

Eh

[balmy solstice]

save

[woven turret]

idk, it let me order

[balmy solstice]

it's not worth not buying the best you can get now

[mortal grail]

There's another one iirc

[woven turret]

10 days later(today) I emailed them and they said its sold out

[mortal grail]

Pulsar mice are good @woven turret

[balmy solstice]

rip

[mortal grail]

X2a

[balmy solstice]

they thought you knew and you were making a donation

[mortal grail]

If you want an embedded battery though the good ones I think cost a fair bit vs spending a few $ for a rechargable AA or AAA

The razer mice I believe even the hyperspeed have a usb cable for charging

Could be wrong

[balmy solstice]

rechargeable is the way

I have a rechargeable xbox controller and will never go back

[woven turret]

was thinking about the v3 hyperspeed but people kept telling me there's better

[mortal grail]

Did you check this out

You can put your mouse into it

Your current one

And see what others are out there that match the shape

Then use rtings to compare reviews of these mice

Might be more helpful this way

I still think that first mouse you brought up seems fine

[balmy solstice]

mouse dating site

[woven turret]

I have cheao obscure brand

cheap*

[mortal grail]

But I'd be hesitant cos SteelSeries app bloat is annoying

[mortal grail]

They might have it

Hell they have knockoff razers on there iirc

Only one way to find out

[woven turret]

nope they dont have it

Battletron gaming mouse

v3 hyperspeed good or no?

[mortal grail]

Viper v3 hyperspeed good imo yeah

[devout forum]

NGL

I can't wait for the 5070 Ti release

[mortal grail]

Just remember to set up your mouse in synapse when you first get it

Set your profiles and everything

Then go and uninstall synapse and everything to do with synapse

[devout forum]

I can't wait for all the media trying to spin it as a "great 750 dollar GPU" lol

[mortal grail]

Cos you won't need synapse open if you avoid things like macros

Or hyperflux

So you can just uninstall

Then it's a zero software mouse with a great review

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/razer/viper-v3-hyperspeed

[balmy solstice]

that is not the way

9070xt shall be the savior

[devout forum]

oh dw not to buy it

I just want to see the media DESPERATELY suck up to Jensen and try in vain to spin the 5070 Ti as a somehow "excellent 750 dollar GPU"

[mortal grail]

I want that 9070 XT to be 699

Pls amd

Pls

[devout forum]

Not happening

Try 750

[balmy solstice]

please save us amd, please

[devout forum]

Remember lads

[mortal grail]

I don't fully believe pre-release pricing

[devout forum]

AMD is not your friend either

[balmy solstice]

we went to school together tho

[devout forum]

Oh ofc

I'm expecting 800

[mortal grail]

Esp. with 9070 XT, that has had

SO MANY

Price speculations

[devout forum]

NGL I feel that the 9070s at this point are doomed to fail

[balmy solstice]

9070xtx may be closer to 5080 pricing

[devout forum]

no matter what perf or price is

[balmy solstice]

and for good reason with 32gb vram

[devout forum]

there is just too many expectations

[devout forum]

9070XT no has 32gb

[mortal grail]

750 would be sad, that's not gonna be enough to win marketshare

[devout forum]

AMD already emphatically denied that

[balmy solstice]

xtx

[devout forum]

There will not be a 32gb 9070

They said it pretty clearly

[mortal grail]

It's been denied by amd directly

[devout forum]

Don't expect an XTX that will not come

[surreal comet]

AMD really shot themselves in the foot with the 7000 series pricing at launch

What a shame

[balmy solstice]

I will expect anything

[mortal grail]

And you can see how good the cards are now that you got one right

They really stuffed up

XTX is a treasure

[surreal comet]

Literally released cards and like 3 months later slashed prices

[devout forum]

After all

AMD is solely concerned about profits

[mortal grail]

I will be so sad if 749 is the price

That's not even undercut anymore

[balmy solstice]

ngl that's w tactics, I would do the same

[mortal grail]

It's just sad

[mortal grail]

Not if they want to capture market share

[surreal comet]

I love AMD's ecosystem their pricing is always just really strange

[devout forum]

Yeah AMD shot herself in the foot with the silence

[mortal grail]

As great as the last 2 gens were overall

Being competitive isn't enough

[devout forum]

there is just too much speculation and expectations

[mortal grail]

They've lost 2% YoY of marketshare

[surreal comet]

Gotta be better than competitive

[mortal grail]

Even with how good the cards have been

[devout forum]

9000 series is doomed to fail no matter what happens at this point
At least for the launch itself

[balmy solstice]

at least they have well priced cpu's that outperform Intel every release (so far)

[surreal comet]

If they can't prove themselves this gen idk how it's gonna go

[mortal grail]

They hit that 699 for the XT then they will be in with a shot imo

[surreal comet]

Nvidia is already dominant enough in the market space and that's with their current poor reputation

[mortal grail]

Cos the 5070 Ti looks like it'll be 800+

[devout forum]

AMD IS the new Intel now

[surreal comet]

But it'll beat the 4090

[devout forum]

with the middling new releases, blatant price gouging and shoddy marketing

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-phillips-i-am-the-captain-now-captain-now-captain-tom-hanks-gif-17194281

[devout forum]

Oh no

It's 750 dollars

did you miss the news?

5070 Ti is 750 dollars :3

[balmy solstice]

you're not getting it msrp though

gonna be gone in 5 seconds

[surreal comet]

Y'all getting cards at MSRP?

[mortal grail]

Can't wait to see all 3 in existence on reddit bought for msrp

[devout forum]

Doesn't matter how much you actually buy it for

nGreedAI decreed it a 750 dollar GPU, and so it shall be.

[surreal comet]

I just realized I got a set up windows again grahhhhh

[devout forum]

Flame me all you want, that is now reality

[surreal comet]

Nvidia realistically can price it at whatever they want

[balmy solstice]

tf is ngreedai

[surreal comet]

It'll sell

[devout forum]

Discard the evidence of your treasonous eyes and follow the Partei

[surreal comet]

This GPU talk made me hungry I need breakfast

[devout forum]

(That's paraphrasing Orwell in case someone's missing the point)

[surreal comet]

So I go with a bagel or a bowl of cereal

[mortal grail]

Ngl

Jay's take to review it for open price is better

I hope other reviewers take note of that

[devout forum]

HUB did

[mortal grail]

Yes

And it was objectively fair

[devout forum]

Steve is gonna be standing on a mfing LADDER for that review

[mortal grail]

Bagel for a bourgeois gpu buyer

[surreal comet]

Buy card
Return it
Come back next day for open box discount

[surreal comet]

I have onion bagels so I shall go with that

[devout forum]

P sure the return ones don't immediately go on shelves

[balmy solstice]

30 day money back guarantee

[mortal grail]

The price inflated 20%
The price inflated 20%??

[surreal comet]

[devout forum]

IIRC nVidia basically mandates that all returns MUST be sent back to them for exactly that reason

[mortal grail]

No

[surreal comet]

Gonna sit at my computer and eat my bagels like a rich snob

[balmy solstice]

or get asurion for your gpu, break the gpu once it's msrp goes down, then get reimbursed the origional price for it

[mortal grail]

You're thinking of nvidia store

Retail is return to retail

Best buy, Amazon and Newegg I'm absolutely certain of this

[balmy solstice]

no cream cheese?

[surreal comet]

A poor best buy employee has to look at the returned 5080 they can't afford because the store lists it for 1500 bucks

[surreal comet]

Very light cream cheese

[balmy solstice]

but what about employee discount

:(

[surreal comet]

In this economy?

Be glad you don't have the employee markup

[devout forum]

Your employee discount is that you don't get fired

[sage sluice]

Ill eat my Louis Vuitton purse and Supreme underwear

[mortal grail]

Your employee discount is 5%

So enjoy the 15% not 20% markup

[surreal comet]

So true