general-chat

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/when-society-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix-gif-25184211

[hoary zodiac]

Self-host a cloud gaming pc

[frigid stag]

Based

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/715284962349285416/975042676426686504/unknown.png?ex=67b1f6c1&is=67b0a541&hm=2e7317566515463a3c9a475690e2e45af6e857465a955b9c2529e796b774efc0&

[solar token]

can we show our pets here?

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

We're chill

[ancient swift]

I mean yeah. A lot of people use moonlight for that already

[hoary zodiac]

@opaque sedge shows pictures of his dinner

[solar token]

i've seen a gtx 550 ti sell on newegg for 200+ dollars

[hoary zodiac]

isn't that fermi?

[solar token]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

Lmaooo

[lone mango]

💰

[solar token]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-550-ti-n550gtx-ti-cyclone-oc/p/N82E16814127573 225 dollars

💀

[hoary zodiac]

That cooler

The 2000s were wild

[solar token]

why we dont have larger vram in some cards anymore, is it contract stuff from nvidia

?

[worn wave]

Back when aibs were allowed to be imaginative

[worn wave]

Part planned obsolescence, part AI

[solar token]

like gtx 760 had a 4gb variant

[solar token]

instead of 2gb

or so

[hoary zodiac]

I love aluminium bricks with a fan on it

[worn wave]

Oh I mean the xx60 cards have had some vram variants

[hoary zodiac]

Nvidia moment

AMD's more generous with vram

[solar token]

i've had a 2010 pc from 2010 to 2023

[worn wave]

I think they were asking more specifically about multiple versions of a card with different vram amounts

[lone mango]

You WILL upgrade sooner and you WILL be happy

[hoary zodiac]

Haswell?

[solar token]

imagine the struggle

i have a WAY better pc now

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

Based tbh

[solar token]

i've played games at 20-30 fps

[lone mango]

This is not possible anymore

[hoary zodiac]

I mean to be fair on the cpu side

[solar token]

with a ati radeon hd 5770

i7-920

8gb ddr3

1tb hdd ☠️

[hoary zodiac]

Things haven't changed too much from the i7-920 to the i7-7700k so

[lone mango]

2023-2036 pc wont be possible

[solar token]

now has a 1tb ssd

[lone mango]

Unless linux

[hoary zodiac]

It's actually uniquely possible in your era

[solar token]

this card was a budget king in 2010

[hoary zodiac]

If AMD was competiting at that time that i7-920 would've been obsolete a lot sooner

What's that arch called again uhhh

Terascale?

[solar token]

arch villager

[lone mango]

The hell

[solar token]

terascale yeah

[lone mango]

Oh

[hoary zodiac]

Back when ATI was independent

[solar token]

gtx 500 series had rt

remember when nvidia had Tech Demos?

miss those times

[hoary zodiac]

I don't think it does

[solar token]

they looked so real

[hoary zodiac]

At least not dedicated RT hardware

Not the way RT's implemented today anyways

[solar token]

its some different rt

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe it's path tracing

[solar token]

Realtime Raytracing
Ray tracing produces images with perfect reflections and refractions, accurate shadows, and photorealistic lighting. Thanks to Fermi’s advanced compute architecture, the GeForce GTX 570 GPU is able to perform raytracing in realtime. For even higher visual realism, the GPU can also perform pathtracing for true global illumination. The results are images so refined that they are indistinguishable from scenes in computer-generated films.

description from gtx 570

newegg listing

[lone mango]

Nvidia jargon

[hoary zodiac]

Doesn't make sense if you think about how intensive RT is these days

It's probably a very primitive version of RT

[solar token]

there is a tech demo for it

from 2010

[lone mango]

Probably had hundreds of cards running it

[solar token]

Design Garage
Released March 26, 2010
Originally released for: GeForce GTX 400, 500, and 600-Series Graphics Cards

Design Garage allowed users to interactively create incredibly photo-realistic images of some of the fastest and most exclusive vehicles on the road using Ray Tracing.

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

Is the tech demo real time tho

[solar token]

so this one

[solar token]

idk

[hoary zodiac]

It's sus

Might be some nvidia marketing point

I'd say it's more geared towards professional users

[solar token]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

That don't need to render in real time

[solar token]

what happened to club 3d, ecs?

they are bankrupt or something?

oh

they stopped producing gpus

but not bankrupt

[hoary zodiac]

Can't compete

Radeon has AMD backing them

Intel... Is Intel

And Nvidia is just a giant

All three are giants tbh

They have access to cutting edge silicon and engineering teams

The industry is in an overall better state than it was years ago

The Intel cpu monopoly is gone

GPU market is split between Nvidia, AMD and Intel

[solar token]

fx series lost to intel

ryzen didnt lose to intel

[lone mango]

People are starting to leave nvidia

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah ik

If it wasn't for Ryzens we would still have quad cores

Think about that

A modern i7

[solar token]

the only card that had vram increase was rtx 5070 ti and 5090

[hoary zodiac]

4c/8t

[lone mango]

Next gen will have 12 core ccds

24 core ryzen 9 x3d

[solar token]

there is quad core ryzens

[lone mango]

Intel is actually cooked

[solar token]

we need 24 core ryzen

[velvet summit]

why does it include a 5700x3d

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah but they're not $399 so

[solar token]

for creators and stuff

[velvet summit]

i actually do need a 5700x3d but why would anybody want that with the am5

[hoary zodiac]

Nowadays you can get 6c/12t for $100

[solar token]

i7-990x was 6 core 12 threads

[hoary zodiac]

Is 5700x3d worth over 7600x in some scenario?

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't that HEDT tho?

[velvet summit]

i dont think so, but i want to upgrade my 3700x lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

[worn wave]

Only if you already have an am4 build and can upgrade

[solar token]

yes

very high end

like gtx 590

hd 6990

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah not at consumer price

Ryzen sold 8c/16t for the price of an i7

That's a steal if you needed the core count

[fresh timber]

I have that

[solar token]

intel is for creators and work

[hoary zodiac]

i7 7700k that is

[solar token]

not gaming

[hoary zodiac]

I'm talking 2017

Ryzen 1700x/1800x vs i7 7700k

[solar token]

because of the memory oc capabilities and core and threads count

[solar token]

oh yeah

[fresh timber]

1700x, better platform

[solar token]

am4 is goated

[fresh timber]

Can go up to 5800x3d/5950x

[solar token]

lga 1366 is goated too

[solar token]

it beated 2rd gen i7

[hoary zodiac]

I'm personally more of a X99 person

[solar token]

im X58 lover

[lone mango]

It is more expensive but upgrading to am5 is what makes the 7600x more

[hoary zodiac]

Mostly due to haswell/broadwell IPC

Especially since DDR4 is cheap now

They can compete with older ryzens

[lone mango]

X3d is like 220 and 7600x is like 180

[hoary zodiac]

Very high power consumption but they're still decent

For budget builds

Extreme budget

AM4 is actually pretty competitive on the used market too

[solar token]

some cpus from x58 can beat ryzen am4?

[hoary zodiac]

So LGA2011 is slowly going away

maybe

Depends

[solar token]

crazy

[hoary zodiac]

I have doubts

[safe cape]

guys

no more i3/r3 ?

[hoary zodiac]

I'd bank on ivy bridge outperform some zen and zen+ cpus

[hoary zodiac]

huh?

[safe cape]

i dont see intel ultra 3 desktop version ?

[hoary zodiac]

I would certainly hope not

No more cheap nas CPUs

😭

[lone mango]

😭

[frigid stag]

Not even a question, early ryzen was garbage

[solar token]

rtx 6090 will have 36gb of vram

[hoary zodiac]

And a $2499 price tag

[solar token]

4gb improvement

its good

🗿

[hoary zodiac]

Best thing to come from Zen 1 was the 8700k

[frigid stag]

Truly

It was probably planned from before

[hoary zodiac]

That cpu was actually goated

[solar token]

imagine suprim x prices

those who know

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say ryzen played a large part in the 8700k

The 8700k was a legendary cpu

[lone mango]

I remember entering a giveaway for the 8086k

[hoary zodiac]

It took Zen 3 to take it down

[lone mango]

This was just before i built my first pc

[hoary zodiac]

Based

Ah yes

Back when ocing gave measurable gaming performance

I miss fun ocs tbh

Cpus these days aren't that fun to mess around

Sure you can oc them but eh

Not worth it imo

[solar token]

5ghz i7-990x = ryzen zen 1

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

That's pretty bad tbh

I suspect a stock 4790k will destroy a 990x

[elfin mural]

you can't oc modern cpus without degradation anymore

[solar token]

old cpus were made to last

new ones

uhhh

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[fresh timber]

i wish we still had quad channel

[hoary zodiac]

They're cramming a lot into cpus these days

[fresh timber]

dgive me quad channel 13600kf

[velvet summit]

still? it was like one intel generation

[hoary zodiac]

I think there was a unreleased pentium demo

Single core

[elfin mural]

we do with ddr5 technically

[hoary zodiac]

8GHz or something

[elfin mural]

2x32 bit per dimm

[hoary zodiac]

Or maybe 7GHz

One single core at 7GHz

Imagine...

[solar token]

i've seen a i7-990x at 6550 mhz core speed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Z8V8DGIoU

[sweet phoenix]

Lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

That's sub zero tho

[sweet phoenix]

Thanks zotac

[solar token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0jQZxH7NgM

in 2005 it was CRAZY

[hoary zodiac]

The unreleased pentium 5 is crazier

[solar token]

2000s in general

[velvet summit]

10ghz gpu when

[hoary zodiac]

It was actually really late in development

But Intel cancelled it because they saw the writing on the wall

[solar token]

i7-995x existed

[solar token]

there are rare cpus of it

[hoary zodiac]

That was back in the LGA 775 ages

[solar token]

times flies

[safe cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr26jxPIDm0

[solar token]

fx series 10 ghz oc

those who know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJXRCeM5UEs

first gen

first i7 to be released is i7-920

[icy ore]

[ancient swift]

I wonder if anyone would buy an I7 980

[lone mango]

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/331316693941092362/863096474559971338/image2.gif

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wizard-pizza-gif-10679363666336772915

[velvet summit]

Honestly I wonder how they do these

Are these like just fully 3d rendered in blender or something

Or is it an actual pizza that has the background cropped perfectly

[dusk knot]

I haven't had a pizza in months

[velvet summit]

I want a margarita pizza

I probably spelled that wrong

It starts with m and ends with a

That's all I know

[dusk knot]

Margherita

[velvet summit]

Yeah

Fresh slice of that is heavenly

Proper Italian made

[dusk knot]

Where do you usually go to get a slice?

[velvet summit]

It has to be some local Italian restaurant for that

Pizza chains don't make great pizza imo

I don't eat pizza much so when I do, I want the premium handmade and fresh pizza

[hoary zodiac]

I want a slice of meat tbh

[worn wave]

Probably 3d scan

wait maybe not? the lighting on the pepperoni changes i think

the edges flicker though so i don't think it s a blender model

[velvet summit]

Hmm

[worn wave]

So likely video either greenscreened or manually cropped

[nocturne flicker]

If you look closely it looks like the pizza has a single line cut in it which makes a pepperoni angle downwards but the cut only looks like it is in the cheese section

[icy ore]

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe my monke brain is seeing patterns in the cheese and thinking line, but that pepperoni is definitely shaped like it is on a cut line

[worn wave]

Well the cat one is clearly just AI. 343 was talking about the rotating one

[fresh timber]

what they funna do? flood the market with like 10k of each

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/960914817160450078/982361195715641364/speed-1.gif

[nocturne flicker]

Oh. My b

It looks like someone photoshopped out the pizza and applied a spin affect on that one to me

But I'm not an image effects guy so dunno

[worn wave]

it's not a static image though

[worn wave]

this one might be a static image that's "spun"

[velvet summit]

No this one is also really hq

Just edited to spin faster

[worn wave]

I can't even tell cause it's spinning so fast at a low framerate

[nocturne flicker]

What if the pizza spin one is a video of someone spinning a pizza but with the video photoshopped to be just the pizza. Is this how editing works?

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-food-spinny-food-spinning-food-gyrating-gif-26651503

[worn wave]

yeah that's likely what it is

[solar token]

when rtx 5070 ti will release?

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/331316693941092362/897318727371087892/SPOILER.gif

[plucky stratus]

Need input, should I buy a steam deck oled or wait for Lenovo to drop the go s with steamos?

[fresh timber]

Legion

Personally

[plucky stratus]

I was leaning toward it since it’s basically a upgraded steam deck I just don’t wanna wait lol

[fresh timber]

Go sir if

[safe cape]

Which games are you playing on it?

[plucky stratus]

Anything I can ill play

[safe cape]

okey

[ancient swift]

What games do you want it for

It's better to have specifics in mind tbh

[plucky stratus]

I’m not expecting to play anything serious on it know that, and since I’m selling my pc it’s whatever any casual game I can get my hands on a play, anything else I can use an Xbox

[ancient swift]

Ah

[safe cape]

lenovo is 700 $ ?

[ancient swift]

499 for the steam os version launching soonish

Personally I'd go for the OLED or try to get the legion go with the Z1 extreme for when they release steamos(for handhelds) publicly soon.

[sinful blade]

Give me more rotating food gifs

[lone mango]

2tb 970 evo plus is $174

this is crazy

[dusk knot]

Good...good

Now you can stop scalping

[lone mango]

Sounds like hopium

[dusk knot]

Waiting for that sweat 5080ti

I'll finally be a grandmaster in rivals

[lone mango]

Wow 2tb 990 pro is 170

[dusk knot]

Expensive

[lone mango]

Thats on sale

[fresh timber]

https://youtu.be/kb5YzMoVQyw?si=7mHmSSOVLcArmKqK

[tranquil pebble]

NoVideo GeFarce

[lone mango]

Correct

Gfart

[dusk knot]

The wires are going higher than their 9.5amp rating.....some engineers they got over there.

This gen is rushed.

[lone mango]

Nah the connector is

Actually not really

[fresh timber]

Coconut

[lone mango]

Its negligence

[dusk knot]

Right right....the connectors ..not the wires

The connectors are not distributing the load evenly throughout the wires.

[lone mango]

Nah i think it might actually be negligence

Because at first it was not bad

[dusk knot]

And the sensing wires are useless

Those two thin ones

[lone mango]

Because every iteration after was deliberately made worse

[dusk knot]

Smh

[lone mango]

As of now they are yeah

pretty much

because it all goes through one rail now

[proud jackal]

we're getting 5090Ti right?

[lone mango]

Bro maybe

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-gif-24474700

[dusk knot]

Proof that they don't care about us. You'll never see this happening with a data center GPU as one YouTuber put it.

[dusk knot]

No

[lone mango]

It actually made sense back then but now it really is pointless

Didnt think of that

Negligence fr

[dusk knot]

Yeah

Seems this time for the foreseeable future its not a good idea to get the first batch of high end NgreedAi GPUs

[lone mango]

I think that is happening because its all going through one rail with this new iteration

It has no clue some wires are doing so many amps

[opaque sedge]

Jeez

https://youtu.be/awExnTJ5V1M?si=MRMgwbw6tqBx6hWi

Imagine steam goes with intel for their next handheld pc

[lone mango]

Werent two wires doing like 20 amps in the video

[nocturne flicker]

5090 ti, needs 1000w for 5% uplift and 2gb more vram

[lone mango]

Lmaooo

[lone mango]

Two 2x6 connectors

[dusk knot]

No....but it was high....

High enough to melt something

Eventually

[opaque sedge]

Melt some cheese

Over meat

And bread

[lone mango]

I remember seeing two wires glowing orange

[nocturne flicker]

I'd like my gpu with extra cheese please

[dusk knot]

That's a waste of food

[lone mango]

in the flir

[lone mango]

I like my gpus dripping

[opaque sedge]

Spicy

Spice level

Fiery hot

[dusk knot]

Dripping with plastic and toxic chemicals

[nocturne flicker]

I like my gpus blue with a nice sear

[lone mango]

I like my graphics dripping bruh

🗣️

[nocturne flicker]

Gpu got that drip

Fo sho

It be sizzling

[nocturne flicker]

The rizz levels are over 9000

[lone mango]

2tb 990 evo popped up for 130

Pretty good considering its a samsung drive

[dusk knot]

130?

Buy buy buy

[lone mango]

Fr

Might actually ngl

[worn wave]

Only if you need the speed tho

Otherwise just get a $100 2tb drive

[dusk knot]

Who cares. Buy

I really wish I had tyhe some space on my motherboard for another drive..

[gilded kraken]

need that pci-6 so I can run a trillion large gen 4 drives that are dirt cheap without impacting lanes

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674849582861254658/1340479270316671078/there-are-no-wolves-v0-r7ljvd9yabje1.png?ex=67b2821a&is=67b1309a&hm=921f3b2e450008676d57b63bd06a59e08e34db91a6e65d84aacf8155dabd753d&

[lone mango]

Damn the ud90 is 95

Both are power efficient

[gilded kraken]

inside some, there are 14. They are also werewolves

[lone mango]

Fr

[worn wave]

dog imma be real i don't think this matters for an ssd

[lone mango]

My laptop battery life sucks so i care a little more about it this time

[worn wave]

I guess for a laptop maybe. how much do nvme's even pull? 5W?

[tranquil pebble]

data I found

source: https://storedbits.com/ssd-power-consumption/

[fresh timber]

Ssd

I’m about to spent too much money

I need new fans and a fan hub for my server but I just spent damn $100 on cpu and other drug

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/114211522384756737/905899875999301772/image0-276.gif

[misty sparrow]

i dont get it

what are those things in the middle

[fresh timber]

a fuse

[misty sparrow]

hm

[pliant berry]

Makes sense

[fresh timber]

legit somebody should make a cable with a fuse in it and call it a day

solves 90% of the issues

instead of gpu going kaboom it just stops reciving power down that pin

[pliant berry]

Well it doesn’t really solve the problem it just stops it from turning your pc into a campfire

[fresh timber]

solves the pr oblem

firehazard

more important than ur pc not booting

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/ludwig-on-fire-epic-ludwig-gif-5026709020851958181

[nocturne flicker]

Don't worry, they'll just slap a $200 charge on the product to justify the fuse price

What's that? This feature will cost an extra $5 per cable? Just increase the price by 300x that amount

[fresh timber]

kkek

a company needs to piuckup this already

replacable fuse for ur 5090

[nocturne flicker]

Companies just should be snapped out of reality already

Instant utopia

[fresh timber]

what do they really need

a cable extention with the fuse

should be good enough

[velvet summit]

the way it solves the problem is by causing every fuse in the chain to be tripped

so every time it happens, you have to replace 6 fuses

[fresh timber]

i think the fuse on the cable that goes kaboom when u pull too much from that line is good enough

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-torpedoes-submarine-attack-gif-16809727

[dusk knot]

Dead

[velvet summit]

so that's what happened to tom scott

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycFrBH1LSf4

for a new artist this good

[dusk knot]

Imagine the horror of having thousands of tones of rock on top of you with the surface being hundreds of feet up. Terrifying

[velvet summit]

average cave

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/QHJIO0YC8rE?si=Qj4kT_Jgyy8s5tcW

Just why

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/aperture-science-gif-26567843

[safe cape]

30 fps

[nocturne flicker]

Why do you go into work? See, now you feel stupid asking why we shove ourselves into tiny, very dangerous spaces that can result in our deaths just for funsies

Bro really gave the teenager caught doing something dumb response when responding to hypothetically being asked why they are doing what they are doing

[dusk knot]

I didn't really watch the full video

[nocturne flicker]

It was in the first couple minutes

[dusk knot]

But if it really was for fun...oof

Didn't even watch the first few mins. I bailed immediately

I'm working

Hahaha

[nocturne flicker]

It wasn't what I said word for word, it was more like Why do people do anything? This is just us living life

It just really stuck out to me

Because the whole doing something silly or dangerous, defensively ask why people do anything when caught and getting philosophical is a bit of a media trope

And I'm hyperfixating because I'm bored at work

[unreal trail]

pizza

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-mickey-auton-mickey-mickey-smith-doctor-who-new-who-gif-20685642

[dusk knot]

I see now

[wise wigeon]

Buy gpu is in muh state

[dusk knot]

But still, some people just risk their lives because why not, that's not wise at all.

[wise wigeon]

👀

[fresh timber]

Boogie

Boogie woohie

[fresh timber]

Hey bud

[nocturne flicker]

woohie

[fresh timber]

That cpu looks weak

[dusk knot]

7800xtx?

I forgor

💀

[fresh timber]

10700k and xtx? Common now you know the bare minimal is 9800x3d for every cpu based game ;))

[unreal trail]

gonads

[wise wigeon]

You know about the rest of my build right?

[fresh timber]

No

I’m making a joke cause my 11600k was too slow

Fortnite was fun at 110 fps that mf would get, then proceed to max out 100% usage

[wise wigeon]

lol

[dusk knot]

No way

[wise wigeon]

Everything is built but I haven’t turned it on while in the case yet

[dusk knot]

Show builb

[wise wigeon]

I was trying to flatten the side panel but

Didn’t work out

[dusk knot]

Wdym flatten

[fresh timber]

Persoanly I’d put the 3080 in to enjoy

[wise wigeon]

Sadge

[dusk knot]

Try again

[wise wigeon]

It’s not even due to cables it’s just like that

I had like 5 textbooks on it for 3 days

[dusk knot]

Weird.

[fresh timber]

monkey brain

[dusk knot]

I would have tried to inspect every corner and inch of that panel, probably check if it flat

[wise wigeon]

It’s just not it’s like warped

[dusk knot]

Bend it with your hands

[wise wigeon]

Just flexes to a different position

[dusk knot]

Use long nose pliers. Anything

[wise wigeon]

That just is gonna strip the paint

[dusk knot]

Padding

[wise wigeon]

?

[dusk knot]

Like a fabric or cardboard

[unreal trail]

monke

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183232117853913232/1301266574082048215/image0-2.gif

[dusk knot]

I meant when you're trying to flex it with a plier put some fabric to pad the contact point between the pliers and the panel... eh

I'm not there....I can't assess the problem

[wise wigeon]

If only they had another like contact to snap it in place like lian li

I say that but the 207 I had similar issues

Dunno guess I’ll reach out to antec

But this issue is relatively minor to my lancool 207 issues

[hoary shoal]

My cpu got rained on. Is it still safe to eat?

[dusk knot]

Should be fine

[wise wigeon]

I think part of my acceptance of the bulge is that i'm just tired of returning parts

i say as i contemplate returning my psu to get a 1000w instead

[fresh timber]

Question, how

[nocturne flicker]

Yes. FX cpus are really yummy

The rain enhances the flavor

[wise wigeon]

trying to grow new ones

[icy ore]

Try it with milk

[fresh timber]

How

[hoary shoal]

It was raining outside

[mortal grail]

The big palm leaf wasn't enough to protect it

[hoary shoal]

Glass is not perfectly refractive so some of the light gets reflected. It's like a really bad mirror

[fresh timber]

But between a non clear object?

[mortal grail]

That's just physics

You're not viewing the world reflected off the paper you're seeing it off the glass

[nocturne flicker]

The item has a line of sight with the glass at some point along the glass. Since it is the type of glass that allows reflection, if you look at the spot that has a line of sight with the object with a similar angle as that line of sight, you will see the object. Basically

[hoary shoal]

Good to know. Should I also let my i5 4660 get some rain?

[nocturne flicker]

No, those go off when exposed to significant amounts of water

It won't taste pleasant

[hoary shoal]

Ok, good thing I kept it in my pocket when I went outside

[nocturne flicker]

Good lad

[hoary shoal]

Is this enough seasoning?

[proud jackal]

[nocturne flicker]

Just a little more, then it should be good

[hoary shoal]

Ok I'll give it a rotate

[nocturne flicker]

You just want to make sure it is nice and even

Nothing is worse than having too much in one spot and too little in another

[velvet summit]

mfw people dont know basic physics (they slept in class)

(i dont blame them i did too)

[nocturne flicker]

I didn't

Therefore I blame them

And you

No fr

It is a wacky concept

If you don't have a graph to explain it

Funnily enough a visual explanation of a visual thing helps. Who would've thought

Refraction is an easier concept to wrap my head around imo

[velvet summit]

true

they covered in this grade 10 general sciences for me

science was the class i didnt sleep in

math was

it's ironic that i enjoyed doing math in science

while i hated math in... well, math class

lmao

[sinful blade]

Not yet

[ancient swift]

Am I crazy to cool a 9800x3d with a Peerless Assassin 120?

[sinful blade]

Should be fine

[ancient swift]

Thats what I was guessing. Cause its a pretty good cooler but sometimes I get nervous imma do a stupid

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839452469477769236/916800847512473680/HgnGdPSt.gif

[sinful blade]

Jokes on you, I don’t drink caffeinated soda anymore

[misty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/132349439506382848/1338237409501909094/Remington_870_Reload_Regular.gif

run

[icy ore]

Bunch o’ naders down here

[misty sparrow]

I'm tired

[icy ore]

Geez nice

[icy ore]

Was just watching some of my buddies play MCC modded on steam lol

Looked pretty cool

Unfortunately I only have it on game pass, not steam

[misty sparrow]

hm

well, when it goes on sale on Steam the whole collection is $10

hm

so anyway one of the better mods is cursed halo, if you get the steam version check it out

flips everything on its head

[wise wigeon]

does it rather often too

[solar token]

☠️

[elfin mural]

laptop 3050

this version never had a desktop variant

[tranquil pebble]

probably can't even do Minecraft shaders very well lol

[unreal trail]

what kind of toaster you got that can't even play minecraft

[tranquil pebble]

My 6900 XT be pushing 240 fps with shaders at 1440p in Minecraft... with over 200 mods installed lol.

[surreal comet]

My PC case was delayed by Amazon does this mean I get it for free

🙏

I have been informed it does not

[tranquil pebble]

Persona 3 profile, based

[surreal comet]

I love persona 3 !!!

Elly fight was fun even if it sucked

[sinful blade]

I love destiny 2

[surreal comet]

Woaw

[frigid stag]

🟢 no emoji for grass so

[sinful blade]

🦗

[surreal comet]

[frigid stag]

Close enough 🗿

[opaque sedge]

Finished ff7 rebirth…

I feel so empty

Only a bunch of aholes could have written a story like that it was a roller coaster of emotions

[unreal trail]

lol

they destroyed the impact of Aerith's tragedy

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/geforce-rtx-5050-spotted-in-eec-listing

50/50 memes gonna be gold

[solar token]

gtx 590 = rtx 5090

[cursive oasis]

rx 580 = rtx 5080

[sweet phoenix]

Itd be absolutely hilarious if we get a 50 series gpu with less than 8gb vram

Itd also be hilarious if the 5060 is still worse than a 3060 ti

[surreal comet]

I mean

Y'all ready for the 5050 laptop variant

6gb vram

[rancid juniper]

this is part of nvidia's identity, it HAS to happen

😏

[north crescent]

Waiting for 5060 to be worse than 3060 8gb

It'll be glorious

Can't wait

[rancid juniper]

BETTER THAN A 4060ti (FLAMEGENERATION ON*)

[wraith fern]

🔥

[sweet phoenix]

And itll cost $400

[ancient swift]

RTX 5050. "There's a 50/50 chance it's an empty box"

[still sun]

Watch the 5050 have less than 8 gigs of vram

[green yew]

which channel can i go to get help on pc? its been crashing very often and i dont know what the cause is

[ancient swift]

Did you update to nvidias newest drivers?

[dusk knot]

Ew

[ancient swift]

If yes. Launch in safe mode and uninstall them. Then download older drivers.

[green yew]

yes i still crash so much, even when playing games like roblox and league

[green yew]

any tutorial how to ?

[ancient swift]

The newer drivers are pretty bad. But if you were crashing before then it's probably something else

[green yew]

it only started around 2 weeks ago :((

and im running a 3070

[green yew]

so how do i safely uninstall and reinstall the drivers?

[solar token]

gtx 590 = rtx 5090

[ancient swift]

You can go to device manager and uninstall the GPU and check the box that says device drivers or use DDU

[worn wave]

?ddu

[topaz crown]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[fresh timber]

?ddu

[topaz crown]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[icy ore]

Art director of Half Life 2 and Dishonored passed away

[green yew]

how to know which version im on and go back to older one?

nvm

[tranquil pebble]

o7, legend

[brittle lynx]

untested 12400f with a broken smd component for 60€? is it worth a try? i do have a soldering station so i could attempt to solder back the part

[unreal trail]

ok

[fresh timber]

Ok

[pliant berry]

it's risky

honestly doesn't seem like an amazing deal either. you can give it ago for some fun but I probably wouldn't if your goal was to do a cheap build

[fresh timber]

ghosty

guess what im doinggg

[pliant berry]

uhh

buying a 5090?

[dusk knot]

A scalped one for $5090

[fair onyx]

@hoary zodiac @pliant berry I swear it feels like we are never gonna get our backpacks

[pliant berry]

mine comes in tmrw

[pliant berry]

i wanna see if i can put a camera quick release plate on my backpack when I get it

[brittle lynx]

they said they haven't powered the cpu after knocking off the smd component. so there's a chance it's not fried yet, I have no idea if that one is crucial for cpu operation

[pliant berry]

I also realized I just spent the same amount of money on a pair of gloves as the backpack 🐒

[pliant berry]

yeah what I mean is if you are on a razor thin budget you probably don't want to risk losing 60usd on a dead cpu. if it's not too much for you then yeah there is a chance it is fine. If it had never been powered I'd try to find what exactly that part does, wheere the connections are, etc to assess potential damage and repairability. Also good to know if it could fry itself immediately on power on

[brittle lynx]

they also offer an itx mb (+60€) that only recognized one dimm at a time. I'd need it for testing since I don't have any spare lga1700s

the cpu seems like a good deal if repairable, 12400 are still a bit expensive here

[fresh timber]

i wish, i bought a ryzen 5 5500 for my server

[pliant berry]

why they have so much faulty gear

[pliant berry]

ah ok, nice

what u running on it

[fresh timber]

stuff

large verrity

[pliant berry]

ah yes

stuff

[misty sparrow]

-# i'm stuff

[fair onyx]

Bruh, how. Why is yours already arrived when mine seemingly hasn't even shipped? I bought mine early

That's so damn annoying

I wish LTT would be more transparent with what's happening

[brittle lynx]

I was also wondering why

[gray kelp]

Why is microcenter out of all 50XXs? I get its new release but its been like a month and they only allow one per household? Just curious 😄

[pliant berry]

im special

[misty sparrow]

I wonder if the backpack delay has something to do with US tariffs

[fair onyx]

It does

But they have shared so little info about it, and are barely giving any updates at all

[pliant berry]

50xx was a dead launch. some people reported on it but microcenter got less than 300 5090s nationwide and I think less than 2k 5080s

[fair onyx]

My backpack was supposed to ship on Jan 31st, yet I have received basically no information on where it is, and I have to assume it still has not shipped almost 3 weeks later

[gray kelp]

uhh thats insane 😦

[pliant berry]

more updates than most companies care to give apparently. last I heard from ltt they had confirmation to start shipping orders into the us

[fair onyx]

It's a bad generation of GPUs, and they made very few of them. Trust me, you're not missing out. 50XX sucks

[gray kelp]

dang, i was hoping for a completely new build this year lol

[fair onyx]

Sounds like they gave you guys more info than they gave me. I got 1 message saying there was a delay

And then another that said the same thing. No estimation of shipping or delivery, or even any info on if mine was shipped. I don't really think they have given hardly any info on it

[pliant berry]

I wouldn't say no to building a pc, if you need a new system then you need a new system. I just wouldn't upgrade if your pc is already adequate as you aren't really getting much more perf for what you are paying

[fresh timber]

id take a 5090

[fair onyx]

Yeah, agreed

[fresh timber]

and id use it

my psu cant keep up being 850w tho

id littelry run itat 20% pl so my psu doesnt go kaboom

[fair onyx]

Assuming it doesn't melt, catch fire, or brick itself. Which honestly seems like a pretty decent chance one of those will happen lmao

[fresh timber]

id take every mesure not for that to happen

20% pl reduction ez

[pliant berry]

then why get a 5090 at all lol

[fresh timber]

vram

[pliant berry]

for what though

[fresh timber]

im rich

thats why

[pliant berry]

uh

ok

[fresh timber]

if it was free man

[fair onyx]

Lol

[fresh timber]

who wouldnt use it

[pliant berry]

free means you stole it off a truck. it ain't free no matter how much money ya got

[fresh timber]

free

out of my pocket

if i spend $0 persoanlly its free

[pliant berry]

k im not even going to entertain this

[fresh timber]

i win!

[fair onyx]

Same lol

[fresh timber]

im bored

[dusk knot]

Same

Get a scalped 5090

[fresh timber]

im saving for mbp 😦

[fair onyx]

I'm waiting on pay for my job so I can get an aquarium again

That, and I'm also waiting on my damn backpack 😭

[gray kelp]

do you think it may be better just to wait for AMD graphic cards in march?

[fair onyx]

AMD doesn't have any high power cards this gen. It really depends on what you wanna do and what you have so far

[gray kelp]

well rip:D

I have 1080ti right now lol and wanted to upgrade so it lasts a while again

Someone did help me put together this but then 50xx came out

[topaz crown]

Hello @gray kelp! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[gray kelp]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzHGcx

[sage sluice]

Wait when did edge put AI in its name 💀

[fair onyx]

Oh, 1080ti's are already quite far behind by today's standards. A lot of cards would be a massive upgrade

A 3080 would be a considerable upgrade on it own

[fresh timber]

ur making fun of 4060 users

woww

and future 5060 users

[frigid stag]

They’re pretty on par with today’s standard, 1080 ti is faster than the 3060

And 4060 depending on the model of 1080ti/ game

[hoary zodiac]

That is uhh

Extremely unoptimised and overpriced

[fresh timber]

hes paying for looks

white build

[frigid stag]

It’s the case that’s most expensive

[gray kelp]

Tbh I dont even care its white haha, I just dont want one piece white one black etc

[frigid stag]

And the fans are pretty overpriced

[icy ore]

Insane how much some people will pay for fans

[fresh timber]

have u seen techsource

[gray kelp]

I do like the case tho (either color)

[sinful blade]

I promise you don’t need a y70 or those fans
Or that motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

"need"

[ancient swift]

Is there a shortage on 9800x3ds?

[sinful blade]

Go for a cheaper fishtank

[hoary zodiac]

There is a never a need

Just an aesthetic preference

However...

That case is extremely overpriced either way

[sinful blade]

There’s similar looking fishtanks for hundreds less

[ancient swift]

I'm getting a lian li matx m3 or whatever lul

[hoary zodiac]

Lian Li's actually pretty competitive these days

[fresh timber]

its like a fancy car, people spend extra for nice fancy pc

[velvet summit]

chainmill gloves be like

chainmail*

[hoary zodiac]

They make pretty well priced cases that perform well

[wise wigeon]

a3

[wise wigeon]

I would argue antec too

now that they've kinda come out of hiatus

only thing that was an issue with my case was the bluge

[ancient swift]

Why is it so busy

The lines looped around the store

[lone mango]

Must buy 50 series

Must purchase new product

[ancient swift]

Nah nothing like that in store

9800x3ds a plenty though

Shoulda grabbed a pic.

[nocturne flicker]

Must buy 50 series to resell for 4x msrp

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah Antec makes decent options too

[nocturne flicker]

I hear the call of scalping

[ancient swift]

Where

[hoary zodiac]

@fair onyx it's coming!!!

[nocturne flicker]

I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air.

The call to scalp

[ancient swift]

GPU restock incoming? 😱

[nocturne flicker]

I do not think we shall see that again

I am butchering these quotes I'm pretty sure

Life is like a box of chocolates. Full of stuff that looks like crap

[ancient swift]

Almost through the line lol

Maybe, I can see the front of the store now at least

[tranquil pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-gif-26931504

[ancient swift]

Ye

I can't believe I've been in line for over 30 minutes

[fair onyx]

Must be nice. You ordered yours well after mine, and yet it seems as tho mine hasn't even shipped yet. This is all such BS

At this rate I don't think it will be here evn a month after it was supposed to arrive. By the time I get it, I am gonna be so annoyed, I am not sure if I am even gonna be happy lmao

[ancient swift]

What'd you order

[fair onyx]

LTT commuter backpack. The whole thing has devolved into an absolute mess

[ancient swift]

Ah

Go yell at Linus

[fair onyx]

Either they still haven't shipped mine, or they never sent a notice that they did. Either way, its kinda ridiculous

[cursive oasis]

are the linus merch actually worth the price?

it would always be something like an $80 hoodie

[fair onyx]

From all the people that I know who have stuff from them, yes. I have not met a single person who hasn't loved what they have gotten

[ancient swift]

A lot of the licensed merch is like that

[nocturne flicker]

Trust me bro

[fair onyx]

Plus, they have regular sales that are extremely good. i got their track hoodie along with my backpack, and I got it for $20 instead of the normal $65

[cursive oasis]

I want the cpu pillow

do they still sell that

[fair onyx]

This inspires soooo much confidence

[frigid stag]

[fair onyx]

So many things aren't adding up. @hoary zodiac You said yours is in the way, but you bought yours after mine, so either they skipped mine, or they forgot or something, IDK

Either way, I think they are handling this pretty poorly

[tranquil pebble]

Central Pillow Unit

[cursive oasis]

i think they're neat

apparently, they've been discontinued

[tranquil pebble]

Xbox controller pillow

[restive yarrow]

Can someone direct me to the place I can find out information regarding the graphics card shuffles?

[hoary zodiac]

It's probably logistical shenanigans

Merch companies tend to have issues every now and then

[velvet summit]

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle
it has ended though

[hoary zodiac]

It is really annoying tho since LTT store sells premium prices

You do get a premium product but like

I'd expect better logistics for the price

[restive yarrow]

Ty

[fair onyx]

I mean, common sense and general practices for a company would suggest that they complete the orders of those who ordered them first... no?

[velvet summit]

yes/no

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say it's a batch thing

They had backorders

[fair onyx]

The batch I was in was before yours, thats my point

you were in wave 3, I was in wave 2, and I think Ghosty was in wave 1

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe your batch was delayed too

I'm not defending them but

Logistics can get messy sometimes

Especially for merch companies

[fair onyx]

IDK, I guess I just expected better

[hoary zodiac]

It's the same for a lot of youtuber merch

[fair onyx]

Having to wait 1 month was already like "Dang, thats ucks, but its a new product", but then for it to likely be more than a month late on TOP of that, its like... I waited for 1/6th of a full year for it to finally be sent lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

It should be better for how much the product is priced at

[fair onyx]

I obviously understand that they are launching a new product, and also that there was the whole terrifs thing, but my issue comes from the lack of transparency, and how it seems as though my order was skipped when those who ordered after me, now have their items being sent. That just seems unprofessional to me

[hoary zodiac]

Sounds familiar?

[fair onyx]

familiar how?

[ancient swift]

I remember when we had serious delays on my deployment and mail was showing up out of order lol

[hoary zodiac]

Kinda sounds like how Linus deal with every situation

[ancient swift]

Is there a page you can check on order status

[fair onyx]

Where did you see that? Their email says they have no further info on whats going on

if you could show me where, I would massively appreciate it

[ancient swift]

I mean on their website. I'm asking if there is

[fair onyx]

Oh, then no. They have nothing

[ancient swift]

Like how on every other website there's an order history

[hoary zodiac]

Tfw LTT still operates like a youtube channel

[fair onyx]

this is pretty much all they have said on the whole matter. A while lot of nothing really

[hoary zodiac]

At least on the scale of one

[ancient swift]

No order page is a no buy from me

[hoary zodiac]

Rather than as the media giant they really are

GN's gonna have fun with this

[fair onyx]

I understand the issues with the commuter backpack, but my further frustration comes from them seeimgly shipping them out out of order now when there is no logistical reason why they would

its the same product, its not like each one has our name and social security number stitched on

If I recieved my backpack before somebody in wave one, I wouldn't be all "lol cool", I would be annoyed FOR them, cause its BS. You order first, you get your item first. Its not hard to understand

If it gets held up in shipping and they arrive in a different order, thats one thing, but mine seemingly still hasn't shipped at all

[hoary zodiac]

The hell?

So this is BS

13th feb my ass

oh

Backorders

before the end of February

What are the chances that it goes into march

sus

[fair onyx]

But thats the thing, we weren't IN the backorders. They had wave 1, wave 2, wave 3, and backorders. I was in Wave 2

[hoary zodiac]

wait

BRUH

[fair onyx]

THATS why I am frustrated

[hoary zodiac]

The backorders are gonna ship before yours

[fair onyx]

They had set shipping dates for wave 1, wave 2, and wave 3, and then after that, they would arrive when they arrive

[hoary zodiac]

Wtf

[fair onyx]

So either they shipped mine and I didn't get the email (which could be the case, cause my delay email came in way late), or they just full on skipped wave 2 or something

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

Were you wave 2?

[fair onyx]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

I'm wave 2 so

[fair onyx]

Wait, you're also wave 2? But you bought multiple days after me, no?

[hoary zodiac]

Logically speaking yours should've been shipped out along with mine

[fair onyx]

I bought within the first 24 hours of the backpack being announced

[hoary zodiac]

Probably in the same window

[fair onyx]

Dang, I guess wave 1 just cleared out really fast

[hoary zodiac]

Still

You ordered before

And we're in the same wave

Mine is shipping INTERNATIONALLY

yours should've been shipped

If yours haven't even been shipped then something's going on

[fair onyx]

Thats what I'm saying 😭

I live in California. I am so close to Canda. Like, New York is further from California than Toronto is

[hoary zodiac]

I'm in Australia

[fair onyx]

Anyways, I am just gonna continie to be pissed off more and more, so I am just gonna pretend like its not happening. I know I can't hold LTT accountable for a lot of this BS, but the least they could do is be transparent

[fair onyx]

I'm glad its funny to you, its very much not to me

[unreal trail]

[pliant berry]

with these kind of orders I usually just forget about it and be surprised when i see it at the door several months later

[hoary zodiac]

This sounds a lot like every LTT shenanigan

[pliant berry]

The longest I've had to wait for an online order was around 6-8 months i think

[nocturne flicker]

Average LTT tomfoolery

[hoary zodiac]

I usually cancel at that point

[pliant berry]

lol

[hoary zodiac]

And order from amazon prime instead

[nocturne flicker]

Is a major media company, acts like a random Youtuber slapping together a half baked merch system, must be LTT

[unreal trail]

lol amazon dont care if you ever get anything bro

[pliant berry]

thing is amazon don't got everything, and sometimes they are just as slow. I am now on week 3 waiting for a part from amazon

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-better-than-dell-gamers-nexus-steve-gn-better-than-dell-gif-4113752311040353247

[unreal trail]

there are no good options tbh

[hoary zodiac]

I use a mix of amazon and ebay

[pliant berry]

depends how specialized the item is really

[wise wigeon]

what?

[hoary zodiac]

Tbh I use amazon more as a substitute for retail

Retail is overpriced

[fair onyx]

what?

[hoary zodiac]

Prime membership pays for itself

[fair onyx]

I said California is closer to Toronto than New York is to California

[pliant berry]

yeah again, depends what you are looking for. most products I am looking for are more expensive on amazon so I'd actually end up paying several hundred more a year on top of the sub xD

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[fair onyx]

I'm saying the distance is smaller than even just shipping inside the US

[nocturne flicker]

Well actually

If you look at the bottom left of NY

[hoary zodiac]

Actually the shipping goes from NY

[hoary zodiac]

Around the cape of good hope

Through the suez and then into the black sea

[ancient swift]

Would be funny

[hoary zodiac]

Up the danube

[fair onyx]

All I am saying is that its not even shipping far lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Then down the rhine to amsterdam

[wise wigeon]

azor keeps joking around but like amd needs to pull through

[hoary zodiac]

And goes all the way around the strait of Magellan

[wise wigeon]

or theyre gonna lose more market share

[hoary zodiac]

And then to California

[fair onyx]

Nvidia isn't doing good this gen, so we really need intel and AMD to step up and at least provide something worth while on the lower end. The B580 rocks

[ancient swift]

How can they lose market share if the only Nvidia cards available are last Gen low end that everyone clowned on

[hoary zodiac]

I don't trust AMD to not price gouge the 9070XT tbh

[fair onyx]

unforunately AMD and Intel are both pretty useless for what I do, but NVIDIA's gamer GPU's are not too much more useful, so

[wise wigeon]

i mean i imagine shipping in domestically has less hoops to jump through thatn "international"

[ancient swift]

And the 5080 is the smallest performance increase over last generations XX80 card

[fair onyx]

I know, I know. I am not trying to be pedantic. I am just saying as a whole, its a fairly short distance to traven for something "international"

[wise wigeon]

because if the price leaks are true they are incredibly underwhelming

[ancient swift]

AMD already denied the price leaks

[nocturne flicker]

International shipping does goofy stuff

[wise wigeon]

the new ones?

from yesterday?

not the shady european retailer

[nocturne flicker]

Sometimes it is cheaper to ship something from one country, to another country very far out of the way and then ship it to the destination country

[ancient swift]

Do you mean the AIB card that got listed and sold that won't be delivered until a week after the cards launch?

[nocturne flicker]

Despite every bit of logic saying it shouldn't be cheaper

[ancient swift]

That's likely a scalper trying to fleece people

[wise wigeon]

no the amazon listings

not tha nitro plus scalper

[ancient swift]

That's what I'm talking about

[wise wigeon]

these

[ancient swift]

Is that USD or CAD.

Cause the switch also had a listing around that price point and it turned out to be CAD which puts it exactly where people expected.

[wise wigeon]

you would hope canadian

[ancient swift]

Also again. That's an AIB and look how much AIB's raised 5080 and 5090 prices

[wise wigeon]

brother

[fresh timber]

I just saved a cou

[wise wigeon]

the xfx swift is xfx's base model

[fresh timber]

I bent pins on a cpu and I just saved it

Thank god

[ancient swift]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/asus-and-msi-hike-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5080-gpu-prices-by-up-to-18-percent#:~:text=Similarly%2C the RTX 5080%2C made,increase%2C just like MSI variants.&text=Many would argue that the,minutes at retailers like Newegg.

[wise wigeon]

what does that have to do with our conversation

[ancient swift]

MSI ventus at launch 999$
MSI ventus now 1179$.

So these are probably already adjusted for tariffs

[wise wigeon]

tarriffs are only supposed to affect newly imported stuff

9070 series was in stores in january

if they adjusted it well oof

especially since we pretty much know they wanted to charge more for it

look man

[ancient swift]

Allegedly

[wise wigeon]

sure they delayed it for "software" issues

when all the AIBs were leaking cooler renders

ready to launch

at this point everything is alleged

[dusk knot]

Hm

[opaque sedge]

Sounds more like price gouging they’re def capitalizing on the unstable market by charging as much as they can

[wise wigeon]

they are

because why does canada need to increase prices

[opaque sedge]

Integrity is dead

[ancient swift]

Yeah for sure. They did the same during the shortage with the 30 series

[wise wigeon]

they dont have the new US tarriffs

[lone mango]

that 750 coverted to usd is 529

[wise wigeon]

i mean you would hope right?

[lone mango]

Pretty good if real

[opaque sedge]

Seems like amd is gonna be doing smth similar as well recently saw leaked supposed prices of the 9070 and 9070 xt ranging from 600-850

[wise wigeon]

but tell me if you honestly believe amd would sell you the 9070 xt for $500

[opaque sedge]

Lower end market focus my arse

[wise wigeon]

amd isnt your friend, no company is

[opaque sedge]

Its profit first

[wise wigeon]

if these prices are legit its pretty much DOA

[opaque sedge]

Valve seems to be one of the better ones when it comes to policies but its likely because they are trying maintain their image given how much of a deep relationship they have built with customers

[wise wigeon]

and in usd

unless the xt outperformas the xtx regularly and has vastly superior RT

its dead in the water

because MSRP is a lie

plus many people go for higher end AIBs with beefier cooling solutions

and xtx nitro plus was +200 usd over msrp

[opaque sedge]

Damn thing never got a discount over 30 bucks either

[wise wigeon]

if the xt is 750 msrp a 950 msrp puts you right there with the nitro plus xtx

[dusk knot]

[fresh timber]

240rad installed

[opaque sedge]

Back to waiting for 5080ti 💀

[wise wigeon]

and idk about you if its similar raw performance and power consumption anyway