general-chat

[frigid stag]

[surreal comet]

Okay so my case WILL fit the XFX card

Doubt it has the best airflow for it

[lone mango]

Yeah when I noticed I see a pretty big difference but not at first glance

[surreal comet]

Might invest in a different case at some point

[lone mango]

I was looking at the honey so it took me longer

[sage sluice]

ive got mighty peepers

[sage sluice]

are you looking at it on an oled panel?

[lone mango]

Actually I was looking at the black background first

[lone mango]

No

[sage sluice]

or miniled?

[lone mango]

ips

[sage sluice]

insane

[velvet summit]

hdr10 is not even a certification, it's just that the monitor supports decoding the standard

[sage sluice]

no wonder LMAO

[lone mango]

Yeah to me the oled is like you turned up the contrast on the ips a little bit

I will cope and turn up my contrast and make the blacks even darker

See now I have oled for $150

[surreal comet]

Should I get an AIO even though I don't need it for my next case because it looks kinda cool

[sage sluice]

Looking at it on my phone the best thing about oled darks isnt necessarily the contrast but that you can see more details in the dark

[surreal comet]

The best thing about OLED on phones is the battery savings

Duh

[sage sluice]

That photo is not a good representative of oleds strengths

[surreal comet]

It is bad to the human eyes

[surreal comet]

I have never drank monster energy

It looks sickening

[nocturne flicker]

Screens are bad to the human eyes return to reading in poor lighting

[lone mango]

Best eye training

[surreal comet]

Screens are bad return to closing your eyes and letting Google read text to you

[lone mango]

You will no longer need glasses (true story)

[surreal comet]

So true

Lasik sounds nice but that one final destination scene was scary so I won't get it

[lone mango]

Yeah lasik is bs

Because your vision can still get bad after it

[surreal comet]

I just use glasses like a normal nerd

Gonna look at cases I'm bored

[lone mango]

Meshroom d

[surreal comet]

Whare...

[frigid stag]

It’s not the screen that’s the issue, it’s that you’re staring into a small rectangle for long periods of time

[lone mango]

I want to get one

White tl b12 came in

[surreal comet]

A what

[elfin mural]

fan

[surreal comet]

Cool

[worn wave]

it really just depends. My dad got it in his late 40's and almost 15 years later still has great eyesight, except for needing reading glasses

[surreal comet]

It just sounds sketchy

[worn wave]

there is a possibility for it to go wrong yeah

[surreal comet]

I'll deal with the minor inconvenience of glasses

[worn wave]

depending on your prescription/how much you spend on glasses it can save money in the long run. But I do understand being wary of it bc some people get side effects.

[devout forum]

Not gonna lie

Picking a GPU upgrade from a 6700XT is not easy

[worn wave]

tbh right now is just not a great time

[devout forum]

Used market is your friend

[worn wave]

new market is completely bonked, used market is partially bonked because of new market being completely bonked

[devout forum]

I'm not even looking at anything new cuz they are all too expensive

I mean something like a 6900XT WOULD be a worthy uplift
Especially since I can get it for the same price I paid for my current GPU brand new

[worn wave]

you could try r/hardwareswap, I got a $400 4070 after posting there. be wary of scammers

[devout forum]

Eh

Won't work for me

But the used market here has reasonable enough segments

[surreal comet]

No upgrade is easy rn

[surreal comet]

Might sell my 4070 on there tbh

That or I'll keep it in the box

[devout forum]

I'm just in that sort of zone where I wanna commit

Cuz I really wanna move up to 1440p

[surreal comet]

But can't find anything worth committing to

[devout forum]

And the 6700XT would cry if I did that

[worn wave]

you can do 1440p on a 6700xt

I did 1440p on a 3060ti

[devout forum]

I did see a reasonably priced 6900XT Formula OC

[surreal comet]

Wouldn't be a bad jump

[devout forum]

100fps 1440p average

At maxed settings

[worn wave]

might be worth waiting for 9070, idk

[devout forum]

I technically could

I'm just like

Not exactly enthused by the price

It's gonna cost like 7900GRE money (roughly 300k HUF)

While that Formula OC is like 60% of that

[worn wave]

o right forgot you're not in US, market is porobably quite different

[devout forum]

And I kinda doubt that the 9070 XT is gonna be like almost double the framerate of a 6900XT

Not even at 1440p

So like there's basically no real reason for me to wait other than just not having the cash at hand

[surreal comet]

Anywhere that isn't the US or western Europe then prices are horrible

From what I can tell

[devout forum]

*worse than average

[fresh timber]

i did 4k roblox on a gtx 1050

1050 is a 4k gpu

[devout forum]

They're horrible everywhere, even Western Europe

US is just a protected market for tech corps

Cuz it's like THE most important one

[dense locust]

“I did 4k on YouTube on my iPad Pro, iPad Pro is a 4k gpu”

[devout forum]

So Americans get lower prices to drive sales

[surreal comet]

If Americans don't buy Nvidia will cry

They can't sell refreshed 4080 super for 1200

Feel bad for them

[worn wave]

well also the US dollar is just crazy strong so that's part of it as well

[dense locust]

If 5080 had stock it wouldn’t sell well

[worn wave]

you'd better believe it would lol

nvidia fans eat it up

[dense locust]

They didn’t eat up the 4080

Fomo selling the 5080

[fresh timber]

youtube isnt rendering new frames

unfair

i also did 4k minecraft on a 1050

[devout forum]

The only real reasons for the "shortage" is that nGreedAI severely cut back gaming GPU production
And that large retailers screwed up and sold all the cards to scalpers before launch

[surreal comet]

Paper launch moment

[devout forum]

If there wasn't an artificial shortage they wouldn't be able to maintain the pricing they set

[fresh timber]

so whats up with intel and amd prices then

[devout forum]

But when you have an effective monopoly, you can set whatever prices you want

[fresh timber]

o.. intel did good

[surreal comet]

Intel might have their stuff together for once

GPU wise

[devout forum]

And then the other parts of that almost-monopoly can ALSO raise prices cuz you just normalized the higher ceiling

[fresh timber]

I wanna buy a b580 so badd but its a waste of money

[devout forum]

Unironically if I didn't have a 6700XT rn
I'd heavily consider the B580

[fresh timber]

if i didnt haev my 7700xt same

[devout forum]

Like actually as my only gaming GPU

[fresh timber]

if i still used my rx6600

id go for it

[devout forum]

Intel legit made it to where it's not just a passable option
But an actually viable and mostly competitive one

[surreal comet]

Intel actually learned from their mistakes?

Rare

[fresh timber]

its viable for me ❤️

[surreal comet]

Hope they get better though

[fresh timber]

5700x3d and b580, ez

[surreal comet]

I am moving onto the 7800x3d and a 7900xtx

Time to only play super smash Brothers melee

[fresh timber]

im waiting for 9070xt and praying 5080 prices stgablize

[surreal comet]

Wait 3 years

[fresh timber]

i do prefer nvidia

worth

so im not buying a used 3090 any time soon

[surreal comet]

I just prefer AMD for the better price to performance

Plus I prefer adrenaline

[fresh timber]

i have adrenaline

it works 20% of the time

[surreal comet]

My area ain't too bad

[fresh timber]

3090s are like a 4080 ish right

4070ti

[worn wave]

4070super is the closest I think

[fresh timber]

4070ti

[fresh timber]

we can find a bunch of benchamrks that go between them lel

[worn wave]

Ikr

[surreal comet]

What are you on atm

[worn wave]

I wish there was like one agreed upon benchmark. For a long time I've heard that the TPU charts aren't very good, then the Toms charts came out and I started hearing those aren't great either

3dmark scores maybe?

[fresh timber]

i dont even trust those

i just oc my vram a tad bit and i was faster than a 3080

in gaming i was not close

[surreal comet]

I haven't OCd a GPU in a bit

I usually just undervolt and call it a day

[worn wave]

undervolting is great

[surreal comet]

My 4070 only draws some 150 watts under max load

I should probably just keep it tbh

As a backup

[worn wave]

what's your voltage curve look like?

[wise wigeon]

never bad to have a backup

[worn wave]

I'm doing ~2800mhz at 1000mV

[lone mango]

Noctua nf-a12 undercutter for a third of the price

[worn wave]

wait actually afterburner might just be borked

[lone mango]

Yeah the tiny chance of getting those halos at night is enough for me fr

[surreal comet]

Would have to check again currently watching melee sets

[surreal comet]

Swag

[worn wave]

the weird thing with afterburner is it shows the top points of the curve at 2835mhz but then in the reading on the dashboard it shows 2790

[lone mango]

Wow this fan is high quality

[surreal comet]

Gonna maybe get a better breathing case

And maybe an aio?

I don't really need the aio for cooking but it looks nice

[worn wave]

nah air cooling ftw

[surreal comet]

7800x3d is stupid easy to cook

[worn wave]

spend more money on gpu, less on cpu cooler

[lone mango]

Aio wouldn’t work unless i do a side mount

[surreal comet]

I have a noctua NH-US12 and it's chill

[surreal comet]

Already bought a GPU....

Waiting on Amazon

A fitting GPU for my 1440p build

[lone mango]

and it comes with a splitter

[surreal comet]

Maybe aio on the top?

I need max cooling for my next GPU

Gotta find a good case that'll fit on my desk

[lone mango]

Yeah you can do a top mount

Thats what a lot of people do now

[lone mango]

For aio go nr200p but i think you can put one in the meshroom d too

[surreal comet]

what is the meshroom

[surreal comet]

It's an Ubisoft game we're not missing out on much

[proud jackal]

I love assassins creed

[lone mango]

Yeah the game sucks

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-punch-anime-punch-gif-5948816561706955549

[lone mango]

You have plenty of other ac games that are good

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-csm-csm-anime-chainsaw-man-anime-denji-gif-26957270

[lone mango]

[surreal comet]

Dw it'll go on sale 3 days after it comes out

🙏

[surreal comet]

Y'all use AMD cards?

[lone mango]

Lmaooo you can put emojis in remixes

[surreal comet]

Oh yeah iget ended up getting a GPU

🙏

[lone mango]

Did not know that

[mortal grail]

Lol

[lone mango]

Yeah

[surreal comet]

Same tbh

In like a week

[lone mango]

[surreal comet]

My local best buys only have doodoo PC cases

[fresh timber]

13700k is 9800x3d confirmed

[surreal comet]

Nzxt cases

Gross

[lone mango]

All panels are mesh

The entire case

[surreal comet]

I don't know if that's gonna fit the GPU ...

[lone mango]

Probably will

[surreal comet]

Smaller gpu than I thought

[frigid stag]

They’re fine

[surreal comet]

I just think they're kinda pricey

And ugly tbh

[frigid stag]

Even the h510 is saveable. Just keep the side panel open

[surreal comet]

Buyer dms me just to ask

For the motherboard and cpu

wat

Why

They wanna pay 250 pass

[sage sluice]

My bird is officially disowned

I let her sit on top of her cage during the day

Because her cage is unfortunately pretty small for my liking

But she LOVES flying to my desk and only my desk nowhere else

[mortal grail]

Poop poop poop poop

Time to wash the chair lmao

[surreal comet]

First issue was trusting a bird

[fresh timber]

is this addiction

[wise wigeon]

the heck does extended ray tracing mean

[wise wigeon]

that a pokemon B&W mousepad?

based

[wise wigeon]

bro i think thats more hours than i have in CSGO

and i was a trader in csgo

[fresh timber]

whats this

[wise wigeon]

what gpu

[surreal comet]

7900xtx

[wise wigeon]

wait those dimensions

did you jump on the tuf as well or am i misremembering the dimensions of the tuf

im misremembering

[surreal comet]

No, got one from Amazon (official seller don't worry)

[wise wigeon]

the tuf is like 14 inches

[surreal comet]

Snagged it before it went back out of stock

The XFX Merc310

[wise wigeon]

I uh was week

i placed a order for a amazon germany xtx

[surreal comet]

I accidentally bought my switch OLED from Germany

Good times

[wise wigeon]

just kinda hoping i cant get in on a wegg drop this week

can*

[surreal comet]

Was wondering why the hell the power brick was European

[wise wigeon]

because i rather a saphire

[surreal comet]

Low quality XFX

[wise wigeon]

when did you snag it

jeez the girth on this thing

thought my evga ftw3 ultra was thick

[wise wigeon]

i mean luckily usb c is plentiful

[sage sluice]

Im gonna have to get in there with a toothpick

Thats not even the worst of it

[surreal comet]

Earlier today

[sage sluice]

My pc was not spared

[wise wigeon]

lucky

[surreal comet]

Was just stalking Amazon lmao

[wise wigeon]

wish i was there

[surreal comet]

Lucky refresh

Bought it

Actually let me confirm my order

[wise wigeon]

but i was studying for an exam

[surreal comet]

Immediately went to reseller listings once my order was in

Got lucky

[wise wigeon]

then got 1.5 hours of sleep before i had to commute

[sage sluice]

Villainous intent behind those eyes

[wise wigeon]

like i doubt amazon germany would give me issues

but still

[surreal comet]

I hate birds

[wise wigeon]

a potential month wait is crazy

[sage sluice]

D:

How

Mayhaps youre both evil

[surreal comet]

I raise chickens and ducks

I don't like birds

[sage sluice]

Oh

Nvm

[surreal comet]

Nasty animals

[sage sluice]

I understand

[surreal comet]

Lmao

[sage sluice]

I used to have chickens

Theyre so gross

Cute but gross

[wise wigeon]

a pack of ducks like imprinted on my grandpa

[sage sluice]

My conure is better than chickens in every way but poop ong

[wise wigeon]

he lives like a disney princess

[sage sluice]

Even then the poop is easy to clean

[wise wigeon]

i used to have a parakeet

cleaning them sucked

[surreal comet]

Okay my 1440p build is gonna end up being a
7800x3D
7900xtx
Hopefully 64gb of ram

I think it'll be a really strong all rounder

[sage sluice]

Parakeets are cute but my god are they brain empty

[surreal comet]

I don't RT thankfully

[surreal comet]

Most birds are dumb tbh

[wise wigeon]

i dont rt either but i would like the option

[sage sluice]

You dont understand birds by that statement tbh

[wise wigeon]

in terms of rt i think im technically downgrading lol

[sage sluice]

A good majority are very intelligent

A lot of north american birds are pretty dumb

[wise wigeon]

like it depends on definition of intelligent

[surreal comet]

I think a 4070 to a 7900xtx is a side grade RT wise

[wise wigeon]

there are different degrees

[surreal comet]

Lmao

[sage sluice]

Falcons, crows, eagles etc are very intelligent

Crows surpass dolphins in intelligence actually

Ravens are up there

[wise wigeon]

like between animals there are wide gaps

[sage sluice]

Yee

All animals are "technically" "dumb" compared to the average human

[wise wigeon]

and there is a difference between like iq like solve puzzle intelligent and emotional intelligent

like iirc pigs are emotionally intelligent

they probably aint solving puzzle like an octopus

[surreal comet]

Oh I guess not

[sage sluice]

Birds of prey are more emotionally intelligent

[surreal comet]

That's surprising

[sage sluice]

Crows are just stupidly smart

[wise wigeon]

depends on the implementation

[sage sluice]

They have insanely good complexity retention

[surreal comet]

True

[wise wigeon]

is it like heavy RT or like barely makes a difference like cod RT

[sage sluice]

I love birds, i have a lot of first hand experience with them

Ive had a lot of first hand experience with a lot of animals

[wise wigeon]

because games like cod have a nonexistant hit to RT but just happen to run way better on amd cards

[sage sluice]

Ive literally had an alligator on my lap lmao

[verbal minnow]

Guys is a ryzen 7700x w n rx 7700 xt a good combo

[wise wigeon]

but then you swap to a heavier game like alan wake 2 or cyberpunk and a 3070 starts beating amd's heavy hitters

[wise wigeon]

do you need a 7700x

[surreal comet]

I don't rt tank jod

[wise wigeon]

like are you benefiting from the extra cores?

[surreal comet]

Barely worth using half the time

[verbal minnow]

Prolly

[wise wigeon]

if its just gaming i'd just stick to a 7600/x

[verbal minnow]

Multi tasking w games

[surreal comet]

The only time I actually like RT on is like

Horror games

[wise wigeon]

define multitasking

[surreal comet]

Funny enough

Where lighting is alot more important to the setting

[verbal minnow]

Like homework or editing w games

Or downloading w gaming n homework

Sm slight

[frigid stag]

Get an 8 core

[wise wigeon]

i mean yeah might help there then i guess

[surreal comet]

Homework just sounds like another way of saying chrome tab

[frigid stag]

Who uses only one chrome tab

[wise wigeon]

editing is pretty cpu heavy though

[frigid stag]

I use like 30

[verbal minnow]

Na I use internet explorer for work

[wise wigeon]

nah i cap out at like 10

[frigid stag]

6 cores is almost obsolete at this point

[surreal comet]

I only open 5 because after that I lose attention

[verbal minnow]

So I would need a good cpu like the 7700x

[wise wigeon]

i open my dad's chrome sometimes and im disgusted

[surreal comet]

YouTube
Whatever TF2 trading site I'm on
PC parts

That's about it lmao

[frigid stag]

14700k/kf

[wise wigeon]

I mean need is a strong word

[mortal grail]

Good 6 cores have as much thread utility as older 8 cores le wha

[surreal comet]

I'm not a web surfer

Maybe I'll open Twitter and that's about it

[verbal minnow]

I js got back into learning bout the current gpu cpu market tho

[wise wigeon]

why you need 64 gb of ram then lol

[verbal minnow]

So idk

[mortal grail]

I slap you with baguette

[verbal minnow]

I got 32

[wise wigeon]

no not you

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/baguette-zzzzz-simon-gif-18462341

[verbal minnow]

Is 32gb standard now

[verbal minnow]

Oh

[wise wigeon]

eh kinda

[frigid stag]

I mean compared to a skylake x 8 core maybe

[mortal grail]

More than that LOL

[wise wigeon]

if you budget is real tight you can get away with 16

[verbal minnow]

Doesn’t the cpu have a lack of upgradability n crashing issues

[wise wigeon]

i mean do you plan on upgradeing cpus within like the next 5 years?

[verbal minnow]

Oh

[frigid stag]

And why would u need to upgrade it anytime soon?

[verbal minnow]

I got my pre built thing 2 yrs ago

[wise wigeon]

oh so you have the 7700x?

[verbal minnow]

But ngl tht should b upgraded

[verbal minnow]

Na

[surreal comet]

More TF2 skins on my browser

Duh

[wise wigeon]

realistically it depends on price and use case

[frigid stag]

I’ve tried a 13th gen i7, 8 cores gets saturated from games pretty easily

[surreal comet]

I only want 64gb because two sticks of ram looks weird compared to 4

[verbal minnow]

Ryzen 3

[wise wigeon]

the jump from 7600x and 7700x in gaming is not that large

[frigid stag]

They’re both whatever

[sweet phoenix]

It 100% is a thing. There were two issues, motherboards having bad voltage control,which was fixed with new bios like you said. Then there was a manufacturers defect in the oxidation process.

Calling those major issues a meme is wild

[verbal minnow]

Dragon ball is so good

[frigid stag]

Oxidation is a specific batch of CPU’s it’s a tiny %. It was just CPU’s overvolting themselves

[frigid stag]

Considering how easy it is to fix it kind of is

[sweet phoenix]

There was a large number of 13700k/13900ks affected

[frigid stag]

Don’t even have to update your bios if you don’t want to

[sweet phoenix]

LOL

[frigid stag]

Just lock your cores

[wise wigeon]

goose trying to gaslight us

[frigid stag]

And don’t run stock clocks

[sweet phoenix]

That doesn't work lmfao

[surreal comet]

Y'all update your bios?

[frigid stag]

It literally does

[wise wigeon]

when i have issues

[verbal minnow]

But is the ryzen 7700x n rx 7700xt a good combo

[mortal grail]

Until your bios resets when you don't look and it goes to windows

[verbal minnow]

Like they work w each other

[wise wigeon]

yeah its perfectly fine

[surreal comet]

If my PC gives me no issues I do not touch bios

[frigid stag]

You realise undervolt overrides vid values

[sweet phoenix]

My 13600k uved to 1.2v day one has degradation issues

[surreal comet]

They scare me

[nocturne flicker]

I always have issues...oh were we talking about PCs?

[mortal grail]

Doesn't work if a bios resets in the dark

[wise wigeon]

look things like cpu bottlenecks are kinda overblown

[sweet phoenix]

And no, not user error degradation

[mortal grail]

That's just not healthy advice ngl

[frigid stag]

How would that happen?

[verbal minnow]

Like is this good

[mortal grail]

You've never had a bios just reset itself?

[sweet phoenix]

No

Total budget?

[mortal grail]

I've seen it tons of times over the years

[frigid stag]

Locked cores and multi core boost off?

[frigid stag]

Nop

[sweet phoenix]

Yes.

[verbal minnow]

Like 1200

[frigid stag]

Did u rma it?

[wise wigeon]

there is a share list link btw

[sweet phoenix]

No because I'm lazy but I'm going to... eventually

[frigid stag]

They do tell u if it’s within a specific batch that had the oxidation when u rma

[mortal grail]

Sometimes something changes, maybe a new update or the board needs to retrain, it'll reset like a cmos clear.

Every. Single. Board. I've owned. Has done this at least once

[verbal minnow]

Lost the list

[mortal grail]

I have never seen a board that HASN'T done this

[frigid stag]

What kind of update?

Windows or bios

[wise wigeon]

think best buy has a xfx 7700xt for just a smidge over 400 rn

[mortal grail]

Any, windows or even just cosmic rays dude

[wise wigeon]

and honestly i prefer xfx over asus

[mortal grail]

It'll reset on it's own whim

It just happens

It's EXTREMELY common on AM4

[frigid stag]

Ahaha that’s why

[mortal grail]

That is really unhealthy advice

[frigid stag]

I’ve never had it reset on my intel cpu

[mortal grail]

What you think I'm not saying it for lga1700?

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4dXwyW

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFtD74

[frigid stag]

I have lga1151 on my main

[mortal grail]

It happened to me just the other day on my UX

[fresh timber]

What’s we talking abt

[frigid stag]

Strange

[mortal grail]

I turned it on, bios reset

[fresh timber]

I’m a resident 13600kf user

[surreal comet]

Same tbh

I've had a few XFX cards

Never had an issue with them

[mortal grail]

No you need to avoid saying things like "Don't update" dude lol

[surreal comet]

Plus I think they look nice

[mortal grail]

Separate to degrading IA VR

[surreal comet]

Nice looking card imo

[sweet phoenix]

And 1 sec I'm getting another option

[fresh timber]

i dont update my bios unless my hardware is going to die

[wise wigeon]

they're not gamer and relatively sleek

[frigid stag]

Ye most people will barely know how to even lock the cores. First step is doa

[sweet phoenix]

Also 7600x/14600k come with a free 1tb ssd on newegg atm @verbal minnow

[surreal comet]

I think the only light is the little xfx logo

[fresh timber]

yall dont lock ur cores?

cringe

i paid for 5.1ghz ill get 5.2ghz

[frigid stag]

~~ I’ve seen the newer bios, all it does is make sure the cpu lasts longer~~

[surreal comet]

I just let my CPU do whatever it wants I don't care anymore

[fresh timber]

intels panic bios updates made my cpu stop doing 5.1ghz all core so i made it do it

[frigid stag]

It may or may not degrade just might take longer if it does

[sweet phoenix]

14600k+z790-s wifi is $350 together on newegg, ram and ssd are free with the cpu and motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QpGZ9C

[fresh timber]

4.8ghz is for noobs

[frigid stag]

I run like 5,1

[surreal comet]

Y'all using FireWire?

[frigid stag]

Could do more but this motherboard’s vrms suck

[sweet phoenix]

Wait goose I was wrong

I did 1.35v not 1.2v

I did 1.2v more recently

[mortal grail]

35 should've still been fine

[frigid stag]

That shouldn’t be enough for it to degrade

But bios resetting itself sounds like it might be failing cmos battery or memory related possibly

[mortal grail]

And here's the catch 22, 1.38 has known cases in the wild, yet 1.35 or 1.32 does

30mv out of known problematic scope is just an outlier and not impossible

[fresh timber]

i forgot what i use

i think i have a undervolt

but i forgot

[wise wigeon]

if only that 7600 bundle was still going

[mortal grail]

Fresh batteries and no not always

[wise wigeon]

wait first thing

[mortal grail]

Dead battery is something you can check in hwinfo

[wise wigeon]

@verbal minnow you got a microcenter near you?

[frigid stag]

Could be storage related too i guess

Is it ddr4 or 5 tho

[mortal grail]

But like that's the thing

It can be any number of reasons

[frigid stag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/ptw7mg/comment/hufhtsj/

[mortal grail]

I had this on lga1200 and lga1700 lmfao

[sweet phoenix]

Z690-a pro ddr4

[frigid stag]

What lga1200 board?

[mortal grail]

Oh it was trash

[wise wigeon]

damn that is a juicy build

[fresh timber]

i got bored

[mortal grail]

Z490 prime

Lmao

Ran just fine otherwise

But that's what you get with prebuilts

Back in the day when I knew nothing about PCs

[wise wigeon]

ngl gigbyte kinda has me in a vice grip for personal builds

i like the aorus line

[frigid stag]

oof

[fresh timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KmkQcx 10/10 white pc for girlfriend cause she likes white pcs with purple rgb

[wise wigeon]

Z490 was a weird time

[mortal grail]

That's gonna be what some 60% of people asking the question will be tho

[frigid stag]

True

[wise wigeon]

gen 4 nvmes were still new

[mortal grail]

Random lah prebuilts with questionable spec

[frigid stag]

Y

[surreal comet]

I need to find a slick case and slick aio for my next build

Think I'm set with the aio look

[mortal grail]

Random cmos resets should not be unexpected

[wise wigeon]

and amd and intel were still like on par

[frigid stag]

Eh kinda

[wise wigeon]

with 11th gen

[frigid stag]

The gap might be smaller now than it was before ngl

[wise wigeon]

but we dont talk about 11th gen

[frigid stag]

Still need z590 iirc

At least 11th gen was stable but had other downsides

10th gen 10 cores are unstable apparently

[wise wigeon]

i still remember the waste of sand title from steve

[frigid stag]

Can’t pass linpack. 10 cores was too much for skylake ring supposedly

[mortal grail]

11700K/11900K was like a 10900K in practice which was hilarious

[frigid stag]

Worse

[wise wigeon]

i mean a 10700k is just a 9900k

[mortal grail]

Yes the arch wasn't made for over 8

It had known bugs

[wise wigeon]

it was a highly inefficient time for intel

[frigid stag]

Not really

[wise wigeon]

they chugged so much more power than a comparable ryzen at the time

[frigid stag]

No they didn’t

5800x was a power hog

Same with 5950x

[wise wigeon]

isnt the 5950x a lil lower?

[frigid stag]

Zen 2 was ok but got meme’d by techtubers using ultra settings and 1440p to show how “close” it is to intel even tho the gap was large

[frigid stag]

Higher

Either way those i9s won’t use over 120w during gaming so it’s whatever

[wise wigeon]

on a jarrod vid i'm seeing like 60w higher in a blender bench at stock

i mean gaming is always less power draw

but i assum going i9 or r9 you're doing some production

[frigid stag]

Well ye I’m willing to bet most people buying them won’t ever see 250w in normal circumstances

[frigid stag]

Eh a lot of it is just people with money moving from console or old pc

[wise wigeon]

i mean just a year or 2 before that seperate streaming pcs was still meta

[frigid stag]

Still is

Hasn’t been “necessary” for years technically but it still is better

[wise wigeon]

i mean yeah anything to take away the workload from the main machine

but i swear i just remember it being so common place back then

[frigid stag]

Large streamers still do it

[wise wigeon]

man i forgot how much i disliked old techtuber graphs

[frigid stag]

Ye ultra settings cpu tests

[wise wigeon]

idk man i consider the power gap between the 9900k and the 5600/x to be a good amount for performance competitors

i say 9900k because i mean the 10700k is just a 9900k

[lone mango]

My pbo 5600 uses 65w

[frigid stag]

Lower than expected

[lone mango]

+200 mhz

[wise wigeon]

the intel efficiency got better with the new hybrid system

[frigid stag]

Speaking of blizzard Still can’t believe I can play old dps doom

[frigid stag]

14900K?

There’s no efficiency, they’re even more power hungry

[wise wigeon]

oh before they started just pumping the power into it

[frigid stag]

Well there is performance improvement but power draw moved to

[lone mango]

5000 is crazy bruh

[wise wigeon]

12th gen was a nice efficiency difference from the previous generations

i mean thats fair

[lone mango]

Who

[wise wigeon]

but you were saying the 5950x was more than a 10900k and it has 6 more cores and 12 more threads

we dont even wanna get to the OC results

i forgot how rough OCed intel cpus were

sheesh did steve get a dud?

[wise wigeon]

wait no youre comparing a stock to OC result

weird times to see a 80 class card for the steve benches

he still uses 6000 cl30 for his becnhes iirc

[surreal comet]

Good background noise I enjoy

[wise wigeon]

but I mean ddr5 is so finnicky

ngl the whole ltt and gn thing left a bad taste in my mouth

honestly made me think less of steve

like at first the initial thing was fine but biased and skipped over somethings

but then he started just taking shots at ltt like any chance

[lone mango]

True but then rossman came in and completely nuked ltt

[wise wigeon]

i hevent followed the rossman thing

[lone mango]

Like completely nuked bro like thats it

Never coming back from that one

[frigid stag]

He’ll be fine

[wise wigeon]

but i remember people were talking about like him and GN linking up to kinda team o ltt

[lone mango]

I barely watch ltt but the few times I did there werent 5 plugs/sponsors in the video

[wise wigeon]

which i mean ltt does bang up a lot of things

[lone mango]

Maybe i got lucky

[wise wigeon]

but its more just entertainment than serious stuff

like i enjooy watch some of the goofy projects or tech upgrades

because they do have some interesting personalities at ltt

i generally default away from the videos for more serious testing

i just find techtuber videos a lil barebones

[surreal comet]

I think the projects they do can be funny but they're the last people I go for actual serious tech talk

[wise wigeon]

like i like jay as a person

i hate his graphs

[lone mango]

He has gotten better with it

[wise wigeon]

yeah but me looking back on the 5600x vs 10700k vid

[lone mango]

I love jays videos

[wise wigeon]

man those graphs were like as bad as current "benchmark" slop

like from thos random channels that definitely dont have the actual hardware and just slap a graph on top

so many people get tricked by fake benchmarks

and fanboys are just willfully ignorant

its so hard to find good comparison vids

because of the fake slop

[surreal comet]

Yeah pal the RTX 2070super is getting. 180fps in black ops 6 max settings 1440p

[wise wigeon]

i remember a vid where the 7900xtx was soundly beating a supposed 4090 in most comparisons

like suuuuure

[lone mango]

Cod is actually really easy to run its pretty nuts

[wise wigeon]

eh

could be a lot better

[lone mango]

Only issue with it is storage and constant updates

[surreal comet]

It happened in my dreams

Issue is bo6 sucks

[wise wigeon]

bo6 looks not that different from cold war but runs like way worse

lmao

[lone mango]

Idk about that but amd does perform really well in cod

Idk what kinda 4090 they got

fr

[wise wigeon]

it does but it was most comparisons not just cod

and in 90% of cases

4090 kicks the 7900xtx's shins

is it worth the 60% price increase, no but like its still just better

[surreal comet]

Y'all actually need 5 5800x3ds to play any game over 24fps

[lone mango]

I think what he is trying to say is going through 10 cpus to find a good overclocking one

[wise wigeon]

remember when people were still in the 4 cores is enough bandwagon?

[lone mango]

its like double the price at times

kinda brutal

[wise wigeon]

just comparing msrps

[lone mango]

Its over

[wise wigeon]

1600 vs 1000

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-hitori-gotoh-bocchi-anime-dazed-gif-27118681

[wise wigeon]

if you have the money like go aheaed

if i had the money I would

somehow nvidia made the 4090 seem like a good investment

dark times

i mean it is a considerable uplift

[fresh timber]

You kinda do

Yes you do

You need to find a golden sample

[pliant berry]

Guess I gotta oc mine now

[wise wigeon]

you need that first place in benchmark runs

[fresh timber]

That looks like a I want the best guide

He isn't wrong

[wise wigeon]

screw practical use when you can have a #1 positon in a benchmark

[lone mango]

Yeah this was back then when oc was big

[pliant berry]

Tbh I wouldn’t mind if my cpu died its old enough. Might as well try to push it to the limits

[fresh timber]

,9ghz 14900,k

[wise wigeon]

people still big on liquid nitrogen world record OCs?

[pliant berry]

I mean it never went away

[lone mango]

Now its not really worth overclocking most of the time in my opinion. but with core ultra it seems you can really get some big perf gains with overclocking

So maybe overclocking is back

[pliant berry]

We are so back

[wise wigeon]

i mean apparently the 5080 is the same

weird times

i see so many +500 core on the 5080

[lone mango]

Yeah its weird

[wise wigeon]

but the ram OC are more variable from what i've seem

[lone mango]

Maybe they intentionally made it not boost as high as it could

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah because they didn't stuff it with cores and made something actually efficient

[lone mango]

Because literally just moving a slider will give you +15%

[wise wigeon]

at still like 325 w

[lone mango]

Exactly

[wise wigeon]

its kinda wack

[lone mango]

Its almos tlike not even overclocking

Just increase mhz and leave it

[wise wigeon]

like people would still be upset that it dont beat the 4090 but the back lash would be nowhere near as bad

[lone mango]

I think they intentionally made it like this so it would be even further away from the 5090

Because its half of the 5090, so if it performed as well as it did then it would seem as a better option

[wise wigeon]

because at like singe digit % difference between it and the 4090 at way lower power consumption

its not that bad

because with the OC its more like 25-30% better thana 4080

not the greatest uplift but for the same price

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't 4080s around the same price tho

[wise wigeon]

and with how big the gap was between the 4080 and 4090 it'd have been more acceptable

[hoary zodiac]

There's no way you're finding a msrp 5080

[wise wigeon]

you aint finding msrp anything rn

i understand US prices going up because tarrifs

[proud jackal]

THIS IS THE NEW NORM

[wise wigeon]

but retailers are just being greedy

[proud jackal]

GET USED TO IT

[hoary zodiac]

I'm glad I have better things to do than video games

Ain't buying into this scam

[proud jackal]

REMEBER WHEN 30 SERIES WAS MSRP

[wise wigeon]

what on day 1?

[lone mango]

Yeah

[proud jackal]

I BOUGHT A 3080 FE FOR 800 AND SOLD IT FOR $2300

[rancid juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/live/X4Do1F_PdPQ?si=GXGIv4SvMPmgG_xf

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

Theo scalper?

[rancid juniper]

u fr?

i hope not

this is not the theo i know

[wise wigeon]

maybe its just me but i swear the 30 series hell was way worse than the 50 series paprelaunch

[proud jackal]

Yes, to an apple engineer

[nocturne flicker]

theo_scalps

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

oh, thats warranted

im cool with that

[hoary zodiac]

Ok to be fair

[proud jackal]

[hoary zodiac]

Apple engineers are some of the dumbest people on the planet

[wise wigeon]

ok

warranted

[hoary zodiac]

They should not be called engineers

[sweet phoenix]

Speaking of zotac

[rancid juniper]

and yet they gain engineer STATUS?

[sweet phoenix]

$660 4070 ti rn

[proud jackal]

It was COVID times

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-d40710j-10p-o

[proud jackal]

Times were hard

uwu

[rancid juniper]

real

[wise wigeon]

eh i think scalping is scummy but not like i can do anything about it

[nocturne flicker]

I haved engineered wheels to put on small PC for $2k per 2 wheels gib mone

[wise wigeon]

i laughed so hard at the ps5 pro scalpers

[hoary zodiac]

I should scam scalpers

[rancid juniper]

yea

[hoary zodiac]

Just send them a box

See they can refund it but then I've wasted their time

[wise wigeon]

thing is they also scalped the optional disk drive which blows for people who want it

[rancid juniper]

wait what if they get mad 😔

[fresh nova]

This is really strange

[nocturne flicker]

The PS5 Pro blows for people who want it

[fresh nova]

Why is my upload so low on fiber

[rancid juniper]

worst technical upgrade ever

[fresh nova]

I thought fiber was supposed to be the same on upload & download without bogging down

[hoary zodiac]

That's high? Lmaooooo

[wise wigeon]

my friends girlfriend just surprised him with one one day

[hoary zodiac]

y'all haven't been on ADSL

[wise wigeon]

i mean states internet is so slow for the price

[hoary zodiac]

Still better than Australia

[mortal grail]

https://fixupx.com/HumansNoContext/status/1889427203873484844

[wise wigeon]

aussie dollars are like worth less than tp

[hoary zodiac]

Australian telecom companies are evil

[wise wigeon]

i mean american monopolies blow too

[hoary zodiac]

You cannot use international phones

[wise wigeon]

there is like maybe two options in any ceratin area

[hoary zodiac]

They have to be compatible with Australian frequencies

[wise wigeon]

is still have non fiber internet because provider dont have it in my area

[lone mango]

25 degree delta at 100w does not sound very good to me am i wrong

[wise wigeon]

i mean its similar rin the US depending on carrier

[hoary zodiac]

You can literally just come to Australia

And your phone just won't work

[lone mango]

Thats just the 6600

It uses very little power

[lone mango]

It can use more but it has a power limit

I think I can add like 25%

[lone mango]

No it was 20

[surreal comet]

The greatest power comes with the greatest risk

[wise wigeon]

bro i was so confused seeming a sata connectore on my new case

seeing*

been a while since i saw a sata

more like actively use one

last time i touched a sata power cable was like 4 years ago

[velvet summit]

all m.2 storage is honestly superior

no more need to try to cable manage sata cables

already got rid of molex

sata is the next to go

makes working with pcs so much easier

[wise wigeon]

just a single 2tb 3.5"

hdd

[velvet summit]

huh

that's weird

hm

i mean, that's common, but usually the other sata ports still work

[lone mango]

Luckily itx boards are having two m.2 slots

[wise wigeon]

x870 is weird

[lone mango]

I think there is one that has 3

[wise wigeon]

you have the one cpu m.2 and the chipset m.2 but why even give the extra 2 slots if it cuts into your pcie

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

Realistic you're not going to use all the slots

[hoary zodiac]

Are they full 2280s?

[lone mango]

Yeah but i forgot what it was called

[hoary zodiac]

Here's an idea

What if we have m.2 2260 instead

More ssds

Sadly anything other than 2280 is too niche to be cost effective

[lone mango]

Found it
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bYytt6/gigabyte-b650i-aorus-ultra-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-b650i-aorus-ultra

Only board I know of that has 3 m.2

The asrock b650 lightning is not going down in price

I hope it does because for $40 more I could get that ultra

There is a refurb for 200 but idk the risk associated with that

[lone mango]

There do be empty space on those nvmes

[rancid juniper]

huh it actually exists

[sinful blade]

I’m now almost to the 89 top people in the server

#general-chat message

Kinda makes me sad

[craggy shoal]

Nah no way Tomie is gone just like that

"It's almost Christmas. Goodbye" wat

[sinful blade]

@pliant berry @grand kernel has tomie said anything to you guys lately?

In mod chats or whatnot

[fresh timber]

Gulf of Mexico or America

[lone mango]

Disappearance

[sinful blade]

@wary fjord are you okay

[craggy shoal]

America makes more sense. But if you asked me, "Gulf of the Americas" makes more sense. We're in the United States of AMERICA, in NORTH AMERICA, which is in the AMERICAS

(All-caps isn't for yelling. Just emphasizing lol)

[lone mango]

RAHHH

[sinful blade]

@dusk knot too

[fresh timber]

RAHHH

[pliant berry]

I have not heard anything no

[dusk knot]

I think tomie is gone for now

[sinful blade]

What happened to them

[dusk knot]

no idea

but she's ok

the last message was during new years eve

[frigid stag]

Can’t u just dm them

Probably will answer

[dusk knot]

oh...motor just said it

hmm

sure

[sinful blade]

@craggy shoal what happened

[craggy shoal]

What

Idk

[pliant berry]

Must’ve been some new years

[ancient swift]

It's not about where we are to them. It's just being anti indigenous.

It is named after Mexica, the Nahuatl term for the Aztecs. While "America" is named after Amerigo Vespucci. Just erasing the actual history 😔

[lone mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PErrvYtVzbk

[ancient swift]

Cats are the best

[dusk knot]

nah

[hoary zodiac]

real

especially with nand capacities increasing every year

[ancient swift]

Say it to his face

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-bully-tripping-snow-cold-gif-15245008

[ancient swift]

So rude

[dusk knot]

soo adorable haha

my dog even looks the same

[unreal trail]

[misty sparrow]

won't there be complications with Mexico about changing the name? it pretty much borders both countries

and it's kind of a petty, insignificant thing to do

[nocturne flicker]

It is empty, meaningless nationalism to keep the base distracted and feeling good about themselves so that they don't pay attention to the government being gutted, a billionaire seizing control and the economy going into heavy inflation and into a downward trend

[pliant berry]

Let’s not get political here

It’s just a body of water, I don’t care what you call it as long as we are referring to the same body of water

[frigid stag]

Idk what they’re doing exactly now but tbf most people would agree that there’s too much money from taxes going into random bs that people don’t know

Inefficiency if that’s even the right word for it

[nocturne flicker]

We've been told to not talk politics

[craggy shoal]

I mean not really. Google Maps exists. Does Mexico allow Google Maps? Idk, it's up to the Cartel I guess

[craggy shoal]

Sorry didn’t see the no politics until I sent that

That’s all I'll say

[frigid stag]

Taxes are more economic than political imo but ok

[craggy shoal]

Anyways, 12mph feels kinda weak

[dusk knot]

old man motor

[nocturne flicker]

You could say the motor ain't ticking as it used to

[fresh timber]

Any country can change the name

Gulf of Canada

Gulf of Guinea

Gulf of Iceland

[dusk knot]

hahahahahahah

[nocturne flicker]

ow?

Overwatch?

Ah I see

[mortal grail]

Dps doom?

Like the fps reaches zero and then you die?

Oh wait my brain just crossed stars there wtf

I mixed up fps and dps

Lol

Need a coffee

[nocturne flicker]

How long do you think it'd take to heat a can of soup via hot air from a heater

[dusk knot]

what heater?

[nocturne flicker]

I dunno. It is just the heater in my kiosk. I want to eat my din

[mortal grail]

Never enough to make it safe to eat

Unless it was like pre-made

Just reheating

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/salamanca-salamancas-cousins-the-cousins-breaking-bad-gif-21202254

[nocturne flicker]

It is a can of Campbell's soup

[mortal grail]

You'd want it like, well in excess of 100°

Lol

160°C?

For a few minutes at least lol

[nocturne flicker]

I eat them cold half the time, I just want warm chili mac

[mortal grail]

Pasta you can just heat up with a kettle

Keep hot long enough until it softens, boiling water is ok for that

[nocturne flicker]

I am in a kiosk using a literal wall heater to heat a premade can of soup, I don't have a kettle

[mortal grail]

I thought you could eat Campbell's straight from the can

I never tried it tho lol

[grand kernel]

negative

[mortal grail]

You don't have like, any pots lol

[nocturne flicker]

When I say wall heater

[mortal grail]

You can't really make pasta without at least a way to hold boiling water

Lol

[nocturne flicker]

I mean something that blows hot air into a room

I am simple man in a simple room

[craggy shoal]

mood asf rn

[craggy shoal]

I understand how Type 2 diabetes works now

[mortal grail]

Ikr

[dusk knot]

Brice

[craggy shoal]

Brice

[fresh nova]

Bryce?

[pliant berry]

Braice?

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/rice-basmati-best-rice-behsad-real-basmati-gif-15608864

[nocturne flicker]

My chili mac is now warm

[fresh nova]

Chili mac actually goated

[craggy shoal]

This mf making chili mac

[honest pasture]

Just wanna say thanks to everyone at Newegg. My 7900xt came in today.

[fresh nova]

Yo save me some

[nocturne flicker]

It is canned from Campbell's

[craggy shoal]

This mf making chili mac

[fresh nova]

No problem man we worked hard on that order, I believe I personally packed that one.

[honest pasture]

Just as a side note, tech youtubers leave out how large things are and box is huge.

[craggy shoal]

They leave out the large things

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[fresh nova]

You know what else is large

[craggy shoal]

This mf making chili mac

[icy ore]

[fresh nova]

The 10980XE box

[craggy shoal]

My mom

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[pliant berry]

This chat is something else

[fresh nova]

I agree

[craggy shoal]

This mf making chili mac

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-raimi-spider-man-sam-raimi-reaction-this-is-something-else-gif-27201046

[fresh nova]

I think we should clear the entire chat.

[craggy shoal]

Bro guess what

This mf making chili mac

[fresh nova]

Where's the Mee6 !clear command when you need it.

[craggy shoal]

23 TB cleared from Discord's servers

Just straight be like !clear allchat and then some guy is gonna go "This mf making chili mac"

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-at-night-spongebob-at-night-spongebob-night-episode-gif-14002001

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-screaming-black-man-screaming-under-rain-fast-reaction-black-kratos-gif-16174799837856428234

[nocturne flicker]

I'm making another can

[craggy shoal]

Burrito

[fresh timber]

Ima eat you

[craggy shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[nocturne flicker]

Takes 40 minutes of continuous hot air blowing on the can from my heater to heat the can of chili mac

[misty sparrow]

-# thats what she said

[dusk knot]

Oh boy

[velvet summit]

he*

👀

[misty sparrow]

she's a he?

[fresh timber]

She*

[dusk knot]

🤨

[misty sparrow]

why's this a big deal with the eyes? dont know who this person is

[fresh timber]

Cybersecurity is like an onion, there are layers, and at some point you start to cry

[mortal grail]

I saw that

Frost is like an onion

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-saw-what-you-deleted-gif-25652575

[mortal grail]

Many layers

And at some point he deletes and cries

[rancid juniper]

gif didn't work so DELETE

[mortal grail]

See he cried

Gif no work boohoo

[rancid juniper]

i dont cry

i sleep

[mortal grail]

I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/giganto-gangnam-style-gangnam-style-titan-gif-27202274

https://tenor.com/view/makoto-yuki-persona-3-reload-gangnam-style-minato-arisato-persona-3-gif-9618415672181594972

[mortal grail]

Dude channelled his inner concert

[rancid juniper]

i gotta gangnam style

[nocturne flicker]

The owl is their mascot. They posted that the mascot died as a publicity stunt

[fresh timber]

Computer