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with pretty much native perf
but you do have to start it and stuff which can be annoying i guess
Damn that big of a dif from a 4070 how much was it with the 4070super?
yeah I'm trying to make it into a more pc workflow
i think you can make it a one button kinda thing but
idk
i tried for a long time to find somethijng like that to turn my tablet into a proper computer and that was the best i found
it's a spare phone so
that's the main reason I want to try it out
lineage os better anyway
And even then LineageOS only supports very specific models
Your mileage may vary greatly
Found a seller that actually agreed on a price
Gonna meet in front of the police station to buy it today
Epic swag
That the gigglebit?
Yeah
Remember to use a middleman service
Goods and services paypal for example
It saves you being scammed
True
Police station is a good call
Is is a newer Facebook account so I'll see if they do the PayPal approach
From like early 2024
Be sure to check it over when you see it lad
I will
If you notice anything at all that seems weird ask about it
If they agree to PayPal anyways
It's also not really a thing on radeon but people selling pcbs only exist
i.e no gpu chip on the card
Or vram
You should be ok in this regard but again, if you notice anything at all, bring it up
Got it
Familiarise yourself with how it looks
I'm becoming a worried mother LMAO
Here's pics
It's a gigabyte but it's basically this card
Be very wary if they don't agree to any middleman service. I believe venmo also has protections
Hm, maybe I got over my head for a sec, looking at the profile again it looks like a burner
It's for the sake of both parties that you use it, they get protected too
Ask them if they'll do G&S
If they say no we won't then I'd start being sus
Yeah....
Probably not a genuine listing
Sleep deprivation trying to buy expensive items
Nothing there that looks weird imo
I'd just ask if they accept G&S
G&S?
Goods and services paypal
If they say "friends and family only" it's a huge red flag
Gotcha I'll specify

Do hope it turns out fine
Not the best version of the card but my favourite looking
Don't be afraid to say no
Bring someone with you if you can just in case
[Random motherly noises]
Okay grandma
Appreciate the advice though
Thinking bout it, hope my case is large enough to fit the card 
I have a spare case somewhere anyhow if it don't
If it does fit I wonder if I'll need a smaller sag stick
Mmmm Idk
Looks like a beefy card
I would make the attempt to use one anyway, they're compact but pretty dense
Besides my case isn't the best airflow wise
I'll undervolt it for the time being , was planning on doing that anyways
Yeah they look it
When you undervolt it's a bit different on radeon
You need to reduce power as well as voltage
Otherwise it'll use less voltage but more current and power won't change
Lol
Damn lol
Well here's to hoping the seller agrees to the PayPal thing
If not my search will continue


Got a Facebook notification
Open it
"Sent you an offer for 250 for steam deck oled"
no
Y'all will low-ball with your profile I will shame you if I ever see you!!!
Lamborghini venemo? Mmmm looks like its got a hand smearing on it, ill take it off your hands before it breaks down for lets say uhh... 50?
It's the best deal you're gonna get all day pal
I mean in reality venemos are really cheap, see i only paid 5 bucks for mine so im cutting you a deal!! shows off hotwheel
You don't know what kinda offers you're missing pal
Waiting for the 300 dollar offer on my PC
I know it's happening soon
God the yearly Michael reeves video that came out perfectly incapsulates how unserious haggling really is
Who's that
Yee
I still regret not being able to get a facebook marketplace listing an original blue marble sennheiser hd600 for 200 bucks because of inner ear foam damage
Or just get new earpads
Tbh I've kinda been wanting to get like
An older iPod
For music at work and whatnot because the sites I go too don't always have mobile data available
Could do an older phone
Entirely
I could, but an iPod would be smaller in a pocket
I think
And they might have better battery life
Have to look into it, just a thought atm
See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
Youre lucky if you can get 300 refurb on the NEWER models
I'm not the most musically inclined person
I just got the pair I have now because it was on sale and had noise cancelling
Lol all good, yeah theyre great for travel
Most audiophile headphones are openbacks which is where portability becomes an issue
If not for the high impedance on older models needing an AMP
Gotcha gotcha
If the music is "clear" and the noise cancelling is good that's all I'm really here for
Oh yeah I got a rip a CD I just got i forgot
got a rip a
Y'all got a rip a
Glad we agree
Isn't that normal price?
Think so?
Idk just can't find any for sale so
I mean yeah
7900xt can be found for 650$
It's a 7900 XT, let alone from ASRock
nevermind all oos lmao
would putting kryosheet on my gpu help with hotspot temp?
my brain always adds an extra S when reading ASRock
asrock is weird company . they have very decent , some highend , and some trash products lol
idk if they are even all that bad lol
Acer moment as well
yeah same
asrock nova mobos are amazing
they also have trash B series mobos
they had b660 that throttling with 12400f
Acer Predator monitors are quite nice in my experience. I have two now. One IPS and one OLED, both 240 hz.
The IPS is 1080, and OLED is 1440
My area is kinda dry gpu wise
Nice to actually see any listings
Granted most GPU sellers respond once and never again
Probably just gets sold and they don't remember to update anything
gpu market sux
True
There was a 7900xtx on FB a day or two ago, they saw my message and never responded
So did msi, gigabyte and asus
It's not really an asrock isolated issue
As of late asrock has been releasing a lot of great products and some mediocre products that are still well priced
Gonna offer that seller for the ASRock 700 ๐
yeah actually 650$ sapphire 7900xt comes back to stock stock time to time idk
better if you can catch one
but gpu stocks getting worse
Question for Ya'll. What can make a motherboards clock go bad?
The time on my PC falls out of sync sooo fast
bios battery
Yeah I saw on Newegg a few can be grabbed new at 650
I'm usually on my phone so I don't think I'd catch them
right now its only 97 seconds behind, but I have had it over 6 minutes before
and I re-sync it like once a week it seems
Gonna offer the ASRock guy 700 and if says no I shall keep looking
Simple as
time to replace bios batter ywith new one
the hell? This mobo is barely even a year old with a new battery
Perfect answer
I will just have to deal with it then, cause I do not wanna deal with the hell of disassembling this PC
i mean 2032 battery is like 1$
Plus they sell them at like CVS and whatnot

its not the cost, its the fact that I need to take apart my whole PC to get to it. I have a mobo thats like 8 years old and its battery still works fine. What a huge pain in the ass
Thats like a nearly full day long endeavor. Maybe I can do it tho as an excuse to clean my PC in a few weeks. IDK
Its been like this for at least 6 months. It hasn't gotten any worse, and I think it might have always been out of sync
yeah that sux ofc . but clock only relying on battery so that's probably it
It could always be a more expensive part
My PC is such a PITA to deal with like that ๐ญ
yeah I hope it's just battery 
๐
It's unlikely to be anything else
I have to disconnect everything, pull it out of its little area, uninstall my GPU's, maybe even remove my huge CPU cooler. Then I have to make sure that all of my jerry rigging goes back together properly so it works, and I have to make sure not to damage my second GPU or the PSU its connected to. I'd rather be shot 
More savings are always nice
btw check bios settings after changing battery . bios settings can be reset
Speaking of second GPU. Its been absolutely rock solid. Insanely happy with my purchase
It's a bigger issue when the battery runs out, you start having the bios reset every boot, stability can become insane
I've had some pretty ridiculous moments when the battery died lmao
i had that issue when I was kid . I dealt with it for like a year lmao
it impressed me when I learn fix is that simple
Ikr
Thankfully I've never had a battery die on me
Having a second decently high capacity GPU in my system has been such a massive help
It's such an insane symptom and yet the fix is a $1 battery lmao
on some mobos it's not but mostly yeah
Currently happy that my friends didn't get the 5090 with how its burning up lmao
it's under gpu
Idk why it's there when companies know gpus are huge now
I still waiting for better stocks so I can get white 5090
My friend tried to buy a 5090, but he didn't get one, and now he has no interest in one lmao
GPU so large it needs a support line it's a building
His main use is AI, and it kinda sucks for AI. So I talked him into getting a digit instead, so we are saving up lol
No one asks and no one changes
"are we sure the heatsink on this 200 watt card needs to be 4 pounds?"
I need to take apart my 3090 and clean it sometime. I could probably also get it better thermal compound
Don't think I've ever opened a GPU up
Scared I'll touch a doohickey and it'll somehow never work again
lmao
just make sure you're grounded
They are shockingly robust. I have opened a few
I disassembled my old 3090, and this new 3090 for cleaning
I see
My old 3090 was a scam, so I had to take it apart sooo many times lol
yeah, thats totally fair
you have 2 3090?
and most brands will void your warranty
most 3090s have bad pads so . if you using it under stress alot I'd recomend repad it
I have 1 3090. The first one was a scam
It has aftermarket pads already, thankfully
guy I bought it from did that for me already
How often would you say to replace said pads?
yeah thats good
Or is it usually a once in a lifetime thing
I bought 1, it was a scam, I had to dispute it over months, and then I bought a second 3090 that wasn't a scam. It was a pain in the ass lol
almost never. just replace stock pads couse they sux
Whenever temps become an issue, but id say around the 2-3 year mark depending on how good they did
Yeah
Oh wait
was it used or was it fresh from the assus factory
No thermal paste just pads huh
Ahhh gotcha
both were used. it makes no sense to guy a new 3090 haha
true
The first one was an actual legit scam tho
Yeah man we need that raw contact for max performance
Second one ended up being great. I love it to this day
We got the 3090 from Alibaba
yeah thermal pads on 3090s mostly sux. replcace it with good ones and leave it alone almost forever
I got mine from hardware swap, but the guy was a POS who tried to scam me, and got caught lol
got him blacklisted from every swap site possible
Wait nah a 3090 will need a new paste/pad job in a couple years
Amds cards only use pads no paste right?
Or was that changed w 7000 series
Or am I insane
They have paste from my understanding
They use phase change mostly now
I thought pads lasted forever ๐
aren't pads like nowhere near as conductive?
?
depends on the pads you get
Ptm basically but it's not strictly that name in the oem space
oooo, phase change. Maybe I could get a PC material for my 3090's core
Ah
tho to be fair, I take very good care of my 3090, and its doing very well. I just need to clean it soon
I recently checked 3090 that I replaced pads 3 years ago and still have very good thermals . just repasted it but pads still keeps vrams under 90c
My 2080 ti is throttling and I just got it from a dude who repairs/resells cards
You do if you dunk the PC in liquid nitrogen
Serious suggestion, new thick backplate and ptm is a huge improvement if you can do it
It has a 2070 xc3 cooler on it though, Idek if the paste/pads are the issue
He said the 2070 xc3 shroud is the same as the 2080 ti xc3 shroud though so idk
you should check the conductivity rating of the pads you get. should be in the item description
I don't think I wanna get a new backplate for it. PTM could be really good tho
But the main reason is the backplate
I run my GPU at 60% most times, so its never really using too much power
Ah ok
might as well get a quantum computer atp
So likely boost state but not too hot
Duh
4090 doesn't have overheating issues like 3090 tho
so I can run my quantum cyberpunk
AI doesn't need much power, especially LLM's, which is what I do most times now
I dropped from 420 watts down to 250 watts, and it only lost 0.8% speed lol
Cause its mostly VRAM rather than core
Yeah
great minds
image gen stuff has a harder fall off, but its still only like 8% performance loss for 40% less power lol
I should be getting paid soon. I want a digit so bad ๐ญ
my 4090 pulss crazy over 400w
????
I saw someone put intel stock cooler on 3090Fe to cool backplate 
Trust the process
For anybody who is curious, as somebody who is a professional who deals with AI and tech around it. The 5090 is damn near useless compared to a 4090 or even a 3090. If you guys see people suggesting them for people who wanna run AI, please don't believe it lol
I mean, help is help haha
I just want a 5080
5080 is just a 4080 super
The top tier GPU at my microcenter is a 7600xt sob
with the same VRAM gimp
I currently have 4090 but I want 5090 lol . I mean I don't use Ai but I working on CAD , 2D modelling etc
Noted
For other stuff yeah. My friend does professional AI as well, and he wanted a 5090 cause he has a 4k 165hz OLED monitor, but he decided against
Doesn't the 5090 have like 12gb more vram?
just so many people think the 5090 is some AI beast, when its not
only 8GB, which is basically useless
It's the only card in the 50 series that isn't a new coat of paint
Which isn't saying much
white strix 5090 wen

Ah my apolocheese
I dont wanna replace whole build so I need white 5090 
The astral is the new strix
Spray paint?
it also have Astral prices 
A huge majority of AI stuff is either optimized to run in 24GB, or needs well over 36GB. So while the 5090 has 32GB, I cannot think of a SINGLE thing extra it can run over a 24GB card
Like, I had 32GB withmy 3060ti and 3090 for over 6 months, and I could barely do anything else with it. Now that I have a 16GB 3060ti and my 3090, I have 40GB VRAM, and I can do insanely cool new things that 32GB is just not enough for
Like... 24 and 32GB can run 32B param models. But neither can run the next size up, which is 70b, which needs 40GB at the bare minimum
Dang guess that means dual 5090
the 5090 can't train anything the 3090/4090 can't. It can't run any models that need more VRAM
I still don't get what people does with ai lol
its so annoying that there is a massive void in the middle of model param counts for AI
its like... we have 1B, 2b, 3b, 4b, 7b, 8b, 9b, 11b, 14b, 20, 22, 37, 30, 32, 34, then 70
all current AIs do is steal other artist's content and call it 'new content' 
A TON of things. I can't do justice with it through text
yeah no, thats not how it works sigh
4080 near me at 1300 bucks, drop it to 900 and you got a deal 
I don't do much with image gen anymore. I am employed with image gen stuff, but text gen and other modalities are incredible
at least photo and music ai's do that . I bet there's useful things around but still couldn't find me in it
AI AI AI
Why donโt you ai yourself some birches
There is a new free open source multi modal model that can accept images, video, PDF's, voice, music, and text as inputs, and then have a real time conversation with you about it like Gemini Live. And it can run locally, with no limits, free for anybody who can run it. All you need is like 16GB of VRAM
Huh?
I already have a boyfriend and multiple FWB's, so I got some already ๐
haha
I canโt say the actual word
Ngl haven't even considered the 4080 in my GPU hunt prices are long gone
btw out of topic but samsung photo edit ai is somehow works amazing lol
not like any other phones
I have a wife, and not a good enough gpu
I miss my wife
Yeah, Samsung is absolutely KILLING it on the AI front. Genuinely useful and impressive tools while everybody else has worthless slop
Apples especially, oh my god they are so far behind the curve lmao
I thought you meant britches. Like shorts/pants
Apple sux lol
ALl of Apples AI ads just show people being genuine POS's instead of using AI tools to make life easier or better. They just focus on using it to seem smart or lie to people. Its so gross lmao
I have xiamo phone too and photo editing ai sux on that one too
Weโre in the future baby letโs go AI PANTS
only good working photo ai is samsung
I can introduce you to virtual try on lmao
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Can you get virtually pantsed
Kolors Virtual Try On
It works insanely well lmao
what the hell
Its kinda crazy itโs able to adapt to the shape and shadows
Yep
Lots of companies now use it to show people if their clothes will look good on them. Cause sometimes certan clothes just... don't lol
Me wearing whatever:
You can do it with a pic of yourself as well?
wukong got that stuff on
Its a neat trick
Oh yeah. This is something you can run on your own PC
Damn, thatโs cool
yup haha
I still using real models and real photos on my clothes lol I'm fashion designer 
free open source AI is the win
I donโt wear anything but the random clothes I find at goodwill or the ones I get at Christmas

Oh yeah, for that that makes a lot of sense. But for somebody to really quickly see how a piece might look on them before buying, its pretty cool!
Almost every man does that 
Iโm a very non-fashion forward person
non fashion is fashion
Stuff like that for AI is cool, I just donโt like when artists are replaced with AI
Like the Coca-Cola commercial
If I get clothes for Christmas, I'm not like "oh that's disappointing"
I'm more like "finally, new clothes to wear"
And black ops lately
Oh yeah, for sure. I am insanely against that as well
๐
Oh god. Yeah
I got my first actual higher end piece of clothing a few months back
Wore that like 2 times before it just didnโt vibe anymore
That's why I sewing woman dresses
mans don't wasting money on that crap 
My boyfriend constantly sends me images from it to ask if they are AI. So many are
Smh
Whenever I hear ai I think About those terrible kwebblekop AI videos he keeps doing
So many old people constantly tricked on Facebook by AI
Project Zomboid is using AI as well. Huge shame
There are so many ways to use AI for good, but sooo many people to use it for bad
I think deepfakes of people is probably the biggest threat to AI safety atm
I say that as a professional who has been working in this scene for like 2 years
Guys....the zombies....in plants vs zombies use AI....
Gimme a computer from Star Trek rq
dude. Deepfakes are almost a decade old. They are not a "big threat" lmao
Deepfakes don't even have to use AI
Thatโs all I want
I have a tool that would likely scare all of you, but its just for funny crap lol
Fr
its an text to speech model that can mimic anybodys voice with as little as 3 seconds of them talking, and its shockingly convincing
password guesser 3000
If a deepfake really ruined your reputation do a thing called sue
There is also a very very cool new TTS model that can run on basically anything and it can give extremely good text to speech in fractions of a second
its so small I can send 3 copies of it through discords upload limit lmao
It generated this from a project I was doing. It took 0.4 seconds on a 3090
whats the model
https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/HUVLSIblZu I guess they donโt really know if AI was used or not for certain
But they paid a guy for the artwork
And if it was AI it was them
I guess
I was one of the professionals that people brought in to analyze it, and I uploaded over 80 examples of how AI was used. They know for a fact it was
It really sucks, cause some parts of the art are genuinely really well retouched, and then others are just SLOP
Just a tiny collection of some I pointed out
One more for good measure lol
I spent hours breaking down all of the images and legit found over 80 obvious signs of AI
realistic looking birds 100% ๐คช
Darn
Its one thing for them to be scammed (they were, the guy who made them said AI was not used), but its another for somebody at the company to claim with 100% certainty that no AI was used, and then tell the community they are making it up, basically
All they had to do was say they were scammed... like
The rest of the staff came forward and were like "This is clearly AI, please do not take what he said as our collective opinion"
My job is in analyzing and optiming generation techniques to not step on the toes of real artists, and also supporting my artist friends
My 3 best friends are all commissions artists who rely on coms to eat and live. Trust me, I hate this BS just as much as anybody else
Its one thing to generate AI references in a specific pose or lighting to reference for a piece you are doing, cause thats a more accurate ref than what you might be able to find, but its another to scam people and pass off something you didn't make as your own.
AI is a tool, not a means to a product, and its gross that some people feel otherwise
Some things could have been just regular artist errors, though there's also enough of the weird artifacts that human artists (at least ones at a high skill level) would be unlikely to make to make it be safe to assume it was generated
Man that sucks
Luckily, it seems that the team behind Zomboid did not know it was AI. they were scammed by the guy who made it
who, actually, was the artist that made their original splash screens from 2012, mind you
Honestly they probably didn't expect a higher profile artist they've been working with for a while to get lazy and use AI
buddy tried cutting corners when the ai was cutting circles
real
I am all for using AI images and art and stuff, when an artist wouldn't have been paid anyways
Like, for DnD portraits, or for little server mascots. Things where you wouldn't reasonably have paid somebody for it to beging with
Or personal stuff
Like if you need an image to display on a website or project for testing purposes
Placeholder images for UI/UX design
I do volunteer stuff for servers that otherwise would have nothing. Like, I am not gonna pay somebody for a one off DnD character portrait for a character that might die on day one. But I can spend several hours refining a hybrid piece of art where some is hand drawn and some is generated, instead of going online and right clicking somebody elses art and using it
Here are some of my comments about it
Where I was presenting a few of my findings
The company I work for does AI pre-vis for companies, so we aren't in the business of stealing or replacing anybody lol
We did some work for Honda back in 2023 and they loved it
interesting
the NBA, Hennesy, game studios, some interactive art experiences
Better explaination from that comment lol
Honda sent us hundreds of images of their unreleased 2024 cars back in 2023, and we trained on them and did over 30k mock ups. They picked the top ones through votes to a closed public survey, and they then spent their advertizement budget on re-creating the things they saw people liked, but for real
If I remember properly, they reported a 30% reduction in wasted funds, and a 40% customer satisfaction increase for the ads, or something. It was a while ago lol
but yeah... Thats part of what I do lol
I heard Honda and went into a fit of rage
why? ๐
CRAP
I got caught up in the conversation so much, I forgot to continue my trainings for my job ๐ญ
I waisted $0.89 of funds :/
thats like two full trainings lmao
Honda and Lexus are probably the two best brands of cars around
Ahhhh, ok
basically quick storyboard mockups
Whenever somebody takes even slight issue with what I say, I am terrified that I worked with a company that did something severe ๐ญ
in a sense, yeah
We set up scripts to randomize a ton of parameters. We genned like 30k images, cut it down to like 1k really good ones, then had some higher ups vote and narrow it down, and then a closed public vote to narrow it down
I also did some work with Calm, the people behind the Calm app. That was surreal lmao
im not sure if that was specifically on request but 1k still seems like a lot. I get that it's kind of the idea with ai but I know especially the larger companies don't always like too many options.
It was 1k options of all sorts of out there things, and then the comapnies themselves set out some more guidelines to narrow down to things they wanted to be associated with
it may not have been THAT many. Its been a long time ๐
but it was a lot, for sure
I have over 2 MILLION generated images on my PC, so yeah, you can get up in numbers very fast lmao
I want a VW beetle with a 1100cc engine
often I will give someone about 10 or so variations and than they point out the ideas they like and possibly some additionals they want to add
Our goal wasn't really to give fully fleshed out ideas. Just images to put together on a soer of mood/inspiration board. There wasn't much of a feedback process from what I remember
yeah that makes since as pre prod
Yup, it was just all product viz and pre prod visualization stuff
I had a turbo beetle at a point
Was fun to drive
I wish they made them here
VW stopped selling beetles in North America some years ago 
I don't think the new beetle is manufactured at all anymore
Golf was more popular in the long run so the beetle was axed
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How do I turn on my pc
U put it in the trash can and touch grass and it should boot

A small price for salvation
thats way too complicated
i just short my pins
bro technically that wont work
How is there so many broken 7900xtx's on eBay who keeps breaking them
you'll short that circuit
Am I dumb
Why?
Both pins are touching, as long as they donโt touch each other itโs fine
there is some insane math to calculate arcs but at that close have 1000w go through the pc and i think you'll get a decent spark
I doubt that can pull 1000w anyways
thats true
why does it look like FMV played on 3DO?
Arch wiki is so good. Everytime I have an issue, it seems like it has an answer.
5 ignored messages
arch and the golang wiki seem to be the most brilliant guides on earth
id say php is close aswell
Why are all the good things on Facebook like 2 hours away
Yeah thanks Facebook for showing me a listing in
New Jersey
Who needs that
Lol there's a $60 1080 and a $400 3070 build but they're both over three hours from me
Default sort is "relevance", gotta change it to distance
Tried
Did not work
This PSU is garbage
Wifeโs 1660 wouldnโt even power with it
Just get new cables
Feel that lmao 7900xt for 600 bucks and it's 200 miles away
Heartbreaking
I have an RM750e coming Friday
Is this an oem psu?
If not, the 2 pin at the end should separate
Maybe I'm crazy but it looks like it should
Small clip would hold it together, no?
It would
Had to double check and look in my own PC to verify my claim lmao
Just pull them away they will separate 
the screws serve a crucial purpose; to hold the wires in place
Pull them away with your mind
They do not
Theyโre stuck somehow together
I pulled with all my strength and they wouldnโt slide apart


what a buggy game, i somehow managed to glitch out of a building during a stealth mission
actual ghost town, if fog was added it could've been another silent hill game
real
and i fell off the map nice
are you trying to convince me that isnt silent hill? 
yes
me when i cant type
Silent-York 2
Game of the year right here tbh
ai fog 
close enough LOL
AI AI AI
spider-man 2
least insane re-zero fan
with that kind of performance?
worse, this is with FG + XeSS Ultra Quality Plus
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Tangled cosplay
It gets in my face and I feel like the emo guy from persona 3
i cannot believe I am in line on nvidias website to buy a FE 4080 S
They have them still??
there is a queue
You are the emo guy from persona 3
but msrp is msrp
Sigh
It's true I was there in 2010
if i'm willing to pay 830-930 for a 7900xtx
stretch for a 4080S isnt the craziest thing ive done
Website isnโt even loading for me
Is this the guy from persona 5 dancing
estimated wait time is 13 minutes for me
yeah but msrp for a 1 year old card is less than ideal
thing is 5080 is such bad value I dont even feel that bad
4090 is 2 years old still good
if the 5080 was the one available sure i'd go for that at msrp
ATP I shouldโve got a 3090tie
but i aint paying no 1200+ on a 5080
even if OC pushes it to 4090 realms
4080S is pretty much like 95% there
and the oppurtunity is available to me
I'm gonna aim might sights on the 7900xtx tbh
same crap
I'll wait one out
Eh 4080s is like 20% behind if 5080 is ocโd
if OCed
no guaruntee I get a golden chip to get the nicer OC
Thereโs no record of any 5080 not doing 3ghz+
Sounds like Nvidia was being conservative
Ye probably
but its like this is available now and if i'm willing to jump the gun on a 7900xtx which is pretty much on par with worse software
but if nvidia were to blast em with power
50 series would've made more sense
then again you can just oc it
Don't some cards have two sets of bios you could use
Between a more efficient and a more powerful setup
thing is the OC 5080 is like still like 325w OC
Or am I misremembering something
thats why the hate doesnt make sense to me, oc on these cards seem super easy
the vram/$ is still bad
there's a lot to pick on but the performance issue can be fixed by an oc
at least 20gb would have been nice on the 5080
i doint think vram will even be a performance problem anyways
Don't know why the 5090 got a vram increase but the 5080 didn't
even 12gb is enough kek
thats going to be for the 5080ti watch
like iirc amd overall uses more vram and now dlss uses less
so fsr uses more and dlss uses less
5080ti super*
im just sad and kinda upset that
5060ti's gonna be stuck with 8gb base
with a 16gb for more moneys
huh i started queue on my phone but i have a queue going on my pc too
tbf xtx has 8 more gigs of vram
thats fine, b580 exisst
24gb vram
true, dont think ive ever seem people leverage it though
I still think in this market Nvidia could afford to give us peasants some more vram
its not
if u see a xtx and 4080 at the same price 80% are going 4080
aw
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not really nope, but it still has specific uses. general usecase tho if same price 4080s he's right its got a good upperhand in a lot of areas
even in a lot of workstation stuff really
its a guy falling off on roblox haha
I feel like you're only picking the amd card if you want pure price to performance
Everything else be damned
^
(that's me tbh)
value is amd's selling point
ur picking amd if ur ONLY playing videogames and nothing els
if the performance is better with nvidia through other technologies
Yeah that's me
yes!
thats the one
xtx at 800 is amazing value, i dont think ive ever seen 4080s dip to that
they dip to like 900 minumal
im going to get an RTX 6000
unfortunately now the market is in shambles
amd is gonna be a midrange giant for a while now from the looks of it
nvidia doesnt offer enough there anymore
buy scalped 5090s and resell them at the msrp, or lower

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5080 sucks. Hahahaha
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Only the 5080s 3x frame gen can beat the 4090s 2x frame Gen, but with more latency lol
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only 3 GB RAM used even with Discord open. Linux moment.
ah yes kde
i honestly dont get why anyone would ever prefer gnome over kde after something like kde 7
kde 7? uh what?
6 is the latest release
Today we're taking what could be a last look at the AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB, a once solid mainstream choice for 1080p gaming. At nearly 8 years old, this graphics card hasn't received a driver update for months, but it's cheap, has plenty of VRAM and should support almost every new game.
Let's see what this old GPU can do...
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Goated GPU
2017 packing 8gb and capable of running big games at 1080p
when they release 7
6 wasnt even a proper release
it was like a trailer for 7
I had that one
Nice
8gb vram mid tier card in 2017
Actually 2016 because the 480 also had two models and 480 came out in 2016
Does anyone know of any good programs for clipping games? Since I've updated geforce it turns off anytime I have spotify running and OBS seems to make my games lag and I haven't found a solution for that either.
Nvidia has shadowplay and amd has instant replay
My bad I didnt read that well
Not sure how to fix that. i dont have nvidia
If you play on Steam, use its recording feature
Steam has a recording feature? ๐
They do now
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recent addition
You can access it in game when you press shift + esc
im sure its already been asked, but is newegg going to bring back the shuffle for the 50 series?
no idea
They were not planning to but who knows if more people keep asking
polybridge designs be like
Suspension bridges are very interesting
Not a huge fan of the design but I can understand their purpose
Lol what
Oh yeah it was this guy that was saying the 480-530 price range for reference and board partners
so my arch install has decided that intel integrated graphics is no longer a thing
the monitors connected to my 4080 still work fine
the ones connected to the igpu are just showing black screen
they're not complaining about no signal, and display settings still recognize them
but just black screen
both monitors work normally in windows
anyone know what to do ๐
tried reinstalling drivers no dice
listing drivers shows intel drivers are still there
For my distro my gpu will go to 80% load on the desktop and monitor refresh rate goes to liek 20hz
the monitors connected to dgpu are working with no issues, the 165hz one is still at 165hz
just something wrong with the intel igpu
but yeah idk I didn't even make any changes to the install from the last time I used it where all monitors worked fine
and it's clearly not a hardware issue cause it all still works fine in windows
all i need is the mother board to come in the mail tomorrow
Mob o
Maybe the dedicated gpu drivers are taking over
Nice! What parts did you decide on?
Dude if those aren't pre-made they're gonna turn up lopsided af cos teens cook that stuff
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i wanted a decent upgradable pc for the 500 dollar budget so i got an amd ryzen 5 8600g intergrated graphics (cpu fan included), a 650 watt power supply, 16 gigs of ddr5 ram, 512 gigs of storage and a white 50 dollar case with one fan
one fan and a cpu cooler should be fine because i dont have a gpu
hopefully this christmas i can get a 3060 ti
Yeah, and the 8600g isn't going to be starting any fires. The igpu might even be better than some of the GPUs in the used PCs you were looking at. I didn't have a GPU for a while and just used the igpu in my 5600g
treat yourself something better
well i saw it was better than a 4060 so
and a refurbished 3060 ti is only like 320
Well wait to see what AMD does with radeon 9000
8GB card in the big 2025
cmon
it's just weird cause I didn't update anything
Itโs honestly fine
worked fine until it didn't
missing my vertical monitor kinda killing my productivity
That much?
I'm still hopeful that they're going to be competitively priced
Kind of a rip off for used card
320 for a 3060ti is robbery
I was buying 3070s for less than that in 2021
for some extra you couldve gotten this and its still not the greatest deal
3070s were like 1 grand in 2021 
they want me to pay for nitro when they're putting out these crappy ui updates that actively make the UI/UX worse
Probably 2022/3 cuz u could legit get robbed if u had one in public
It was that bad of a shortage
I got a premium model 3070 for 275 from a miner that took great care of it
and a bad model 3080 for 320 from a miner that took terrible care of it
@grand kernel are you using a laptop or something?
Why aren't all of your monitors on your dgpu
eBay sellers lowk delusional a new 6700xt costs that much
Is there a purpose for using the igpu?
Latency
Gpu should be on one task
na, lowkey they be jacking up prices
Donโt want anything else using my gpu resources
some of them are scam worthy
I could connect the other monitors to my dgpu just wanted to see if I could figure out the driver issue first
overhead from just connecting displays is negligible but I like having animated wallpaper engine stuff on those monitors sometimes so it's nice to offload that to igpu
I've never really thought about that, I've only ever used one monitor
Ok that makes sense
I have 4 monitors, 2 connected to igpu 2 connected to dgpu
Ye it also can get weird if your monitors are different refresh rates sometimes from my experience
also once of my monitors is inside my pc and the wiring makes far more sense connecting it to the igpu
bro got the stock lite setup
I don't think that's a thing with modern nvidia cards
I guess I'm too poor to understand this
I know it was with older nvidia cards and amd cards
I mean Iโve had issues with it on my card. Idk how modern it is but itโs pretty good
Have to be same refresh rate or multiples itโs weird
I think the last nvidia cards that had issues with that were 900 series
I used monitor from 2015 and a small tv
amd had issues with it as recently as rx 7000 but I think they improved that with driver updates
where 144hz + 60hz would result in like 100w idle power on 7900xtx
but 120hz + 60hz would be 20w idle power


it's basically just a $60 decorative panel
I eventually just stopped using the tv and Iโm on 1 screen
the economy version of getting a $300 aio with a screen
but also better
it's pretty much displaying wallpaper engine 100% of the time but it's sometimes useful to farm twitch drops lol
Neat
I have it mounted in the back of the case with adhesive magnets
cables go out of a hole in the back to plug in usb power and hdmi
linux
linux
I just don't know why drivers would behave differently with no updates, no software/hardware changes of any kind
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hardware found no windows, decided to go crazy after seeing a penguin
linux doesn't update unless you want it to so not like it could've been anything like background windows update shenanigans
Donโt tell NVIDIA, but we already know RTX 5070 Ti launches February 20.ย It appears that the launch date we exclusively confirmed for the RTX 5070 Ti has now been confirmed by a board partner. We previously reported on several RTX 5070 Ti-related embargoes imposed by NVIDIA, which were partially corroborated by major U.S. and [โฆ]
another going out of stock
doubt its faster than a 4080 super
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sitting here happy with my 4080 after watching them release a 4080S and 5080 that are both just a 4080
Might get a 5080 and OC it when they go back in stock
5 %slower than 4080 yes
so trash
I wonder if my 4080 beats stock 5080
What are they even doing

Slim chance
It's not even cheaper
ez
Havenโt seen a single 5080 that canโt do over 3ghz ๐ฟ
I daily 3ghz on my 4080, can bench a little higher
3090mhz core gets through time spy consistently
sheesh
Nah thats too far
lol why
More reasonable would be if it was like a 4090
20 percent would have been nice
And 20 gb of vram
30 series to 40 series was a massive node advancement, there was no way 50 series was going to match that
feb 20 for the 20 cards they are making
a shame really, but we are hitting a wall here
We are not
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It's a refresh
if its a refresh dont make it a new generation
the $765 4080 still holding up decently
We had a full node change and arch change with 40, with 50 we had tensors and a slight bin improvement
5080 = 4080 Ti Super
It's not even remotely a new gen
makes sense
nah don't worry the performance uplift comes from more fake frames
Cos it actually is
5070 is 3 times faster than 4090
well at least it will be a small upgrade to my 1070
believe the jensen dude
we can make 5070 5070 times faster than 4090 if we just insert a few more frames
I never knew this, but all of the gaming cards including the 4090 are all codenamed GB2รร instead of GB1รร because all the GB2รร are used for the data center AI cards. Lame.
nvidia but with FRAMEGEN:
if my math is right (dividing by 4 is hard) does this mean the 5070 is 1/4 the power of the 4090?
Intel with 14nm+++++
2080 = 1080Ti
2080 Super = 1080Ti Super
5080 = 4080Ti Super
guys 50 series is offering great value if you look at the history
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