general-chat

[icy ore]

If you ever go lmk and I’ll recommend some restaurants lol

[misty sparrow]

at least get in-n-out while you're in florida

im pretty sure they have one

[rigid sinew]

but i have in n out here

[misty sparrow]

oh

[rigid sinew]

in n out in arizona goes crazyyyy

[misty sparrow]

i don't have in n out

is it great

[rigid sinew]

bahahaha what do you mean

go travel and try it

[sinful blade]

GAMEMAX F36 WH Micro-ATX Gaming Case-White

@sweet phoenix I’ve been looking at different cases instead, due to lack of fan or RGB control for the sama 3509

Can’t seem to find if this has one or not.

[sweet phoenix]

sama q5 has one

[sinful blade]

Why did I not see that

Tf

[sweet phoenix]

i just use pwm splitters/fan splitters since idc about rgb

[wise wigeon]

What in the

[velvet summit]

?

[wise wigeon]

Idk if I missed it yesterday or it just happened but

Camera doesn't capture it well

Top fin of the heatsink

Looks kinda like a blemish but in person with a flashlight it looks blue

[velvet summit]

honestly idk what you're talking about lmfao i dont see anything abnormal

[wise wigeon]

Maybe the flashlight doesn't help

Y hands were all greasy when handling so I was cleaning it when that would come off

I shine a flashlight for better vision and it was blue

[tranquil pebble]

cpu moment

[velvet summit]

you're talking about these marks?

if i had to guess, there was still some sort of grease or oil left from the manufacturing plant, and by wiping off your finger prints you might have smeared or wiped off the oil? or you used some sort of solvent that started dissolving some of the coating or something, idk

or maybe it's the skin oils that make it like that

[wise wigeon]

No on the very edge

Of the fin

[hoary zodiac]

there's like no damage

[icy ore]

they don't have whataburger over there tho

they do in florida

they're just ok lol

[sinful blade]

I just want it for the illumination of the room
I normally have lights off

[hoary zodiac]

practical RGB?

👀

[wise wigeon]

I just don't remember it being there yesterday and being like blue

[hoary zodiac]

I think it's really minor and you won't notice it normally

I've stabbed my motherboard a couple times

didn't damage it

[wise wigeon]

What like you dropped you screwdriver on it?

[hoary zodiac]

yes

[worn wave]

Why are you splitting hairs on these tiny scuffs lol

[hoary zodiac]

I've done far worse things to my parts

without damaging them

[worn wave]

First the mobo now the cooler

[wise wigeon]

I just happened to be cleaning and it was just off

[velvet summit]

that little scuff mark could even just be from factory lol

[hoary zodiac]

yeah it's not damaged

I can't even see the scuff mark

[velvet summit]

you're unlikely to even notice through a clear side panel

it's like hairline

[wise wigeon]

I probably won't I'm just confused about why it's blue

[velvet summit]

oxidation or something

[wise wigeon]

I guess

Feel like I woulda noticed it yesterday but I guess not

[hoary zodiac]

do people sell used desktop switches for cheap?

gigabit switches that is

[velvet summit]

desktop switches?

[hoary zodiac]

like the tiny ones

[velvet summit]

like not rackmount ones?

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

the rackmount ones are pretty cheap but

[velvet summit]

oh yeah you see them fairly often for pretty cheap... idk about in aus though

[hoary zodiac]

too bulky for my setup

[velvet summit]

[hoary zodiac]

my switch is actually like

full

which is annoying

not gigabit sadly

ok nvm

it's literally cheaper to get it on amazon

[frigid stag]

Is it managed

[velvet summit]

lmao

[hoary zodiac]

managed switch?

for $27.99?

[frigid stag]

Idk I’ve seen some for like 50

[deep parcel]

we are about to have whataburger here in NC

[hoary zodiac]

this aud btw so it's like

$17

[frigid stag]

Oof

[velvet summit]

the dlink one shown there is unmanaged as well

[hoary zodiac]

there's this cheap chinese one

but it looks like crap

[frigid stag]

Mercussy

[velvet summit]

i've had even more sus sounding ones

[hoary zodiac]

oh they make a metal one

hmmmm

[velvet summit]

sus in the sense of "damn that sounds racist"

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if this is any good

[frigid stag]

Ah

Nicgiga

[velvet summit]

indeed

[hoary zodiac]

💀

youtubers have fun with that

[frigid stag]

Had to be careful with the auto correct on that one 💀

[velvet summit]

💀 why is the word in the autocorrect dictionary

[hoary zodiac]

imagine getting banned for autocorrect

[frigid stag]

💀

[wise wigeon]

Mercusys

[hoary zodiac]

they offer a POE option for $49

tbh it's an unmanaged switch so

I'd assume the cheapest one works just as well as the more expensive one

[wild lake]

Now that i think about it, why was the 4090 so big? 😭

[velvet summit]

It technically wasn't much larger than the previous gen

The heatsinks are just huge

[hoary zodiac]

the 5090 is impressive in engineering but

the thermals aren't that good

like props to the nvidia engineers

but wrong card

[velvet summit]

The 5090 is impressive in engineering but so were the previous gens

[hoary zodiac]

true

the FEs have been getting pretty good in thermal design since the 30 series

[misty sparrow]

good in engi-nearing my limit

[hoary zodiac]

engineer gaming

[velvet summit]

Who would have thought blowing directly into a PCB would be bad for airflow

[hoary zodiac]

is that turing?

[velvet summit]

Every gen prior pretty much, nobody really ever extended the heatsink past the PCB to give even a tiny bit of proper flow through cooling

Though in fairness, it didn't need to back when you could cool the GPU fine with one fan

[dusk knot]

@rancid juniper bought a 4080. Now I wait. Need more frames in marvel's rivals.

[rancid juniper]

wait... YOU ACTUALLY DID???

or you're jokin

[frigid stag]

So no 5080 ti?

[hoary zodiac]

I'm still reading through that 2 months long document that Louis Rossmann dropped

[dusk knot]

I'll sell it if it's good enough

[rancid juniper]

no way

3080 > 4080

[dusk knot]

5080ti might never happen

Blame Felix

[rancid juniper]

should've been a 4080super at the very least

[dusk knot]

He convinced me

[rancid juniper]

but its fine ig

[dusk knot]

The difference is only 1-2 fps lol

[rancid juniper]

[velvet summit]

4080 super is cheaper though

[hoary zodiac]

wait what????

[velvet summit]

No?

[hoary zodiac]

you can get free domains with FreeDNS?

[dusk knot]

I bought a 4080 for $600

[rancid juniper]

oh

OH

[velvet summit]

Oh

[rancid juniper]

fair enough

[dusk knot]

Ye

[velvet summit]

Good deal then

[dusk knot]

I sell my 3080ti for 420 bucks and I'm good

[rancid juniper]

420

[velvet summit]

Don't forget the 69 cents

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[dusk knot]

I'll add that

[velvet summit]

Very crucial

[dusk knot]

I'm legit going to do that

[misty sparrow]

i'd like to buy it pretty please

[wise wigeon]

It's not that good because it's trying to cool 600w as a two slot

[velvet summit]

Banned

[wise wigeon]

Those fans must be dying inside

[hoary zodiac]

real

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-james-morgan-mcgill-slippin-jimmy-bob-odenkirk-mugshot-gif-18613260

[hoary zodiac]

if it was a 5080 it'd be better

[dusk knot]

I think it was a smart choice. 4 more gigabytes of Vram and like.....40 percent more horsepower is fine

[wise wigeon]

It is on the 5080

[hoary zodiac]

oh

👀

pog?

[wise wigeon]

Pretty much

Just no liquid metal

Slight differences

[misty sparrow]

i do need to hit up a service similar to what Sytan used to get more vram in their 3060ti

[dusk knot]

Sadly ...the 4080 is an fe....

[wise wigeon]

Obviously laws of physics still apply

[misty sparrow]

what's wrong with 4080 FE?

[wise wigeon]

That's sad?

[misty sparrow]

FE looks really sleek

[wise wigeon]

40 de is nice af

Except the chonk

[misty sparrow]

good things dont always need RGB and all that fancy stuff

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[wise wigeon]

Why am I even cleaning this heatsink I'ma be holding it by the heatsink as I lower it in

The grease is gonna be back

I hate being so OCD about things

[dusk knot]

Not my type

[dusk knot]

True

[wise wigeon]

Chonk has some charm though

My ftw3 ultra is a chonker

[dusk knot]

Rip my 3080ti

[dusk knot]

I have the same card

Farewell, EVGA

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell

you can run onlyoffice on docker

[wise wigeon]

Kinda why I wanna keep it in the family

It's also a memento

My first high end gpu

[dusk knot]

I wish I could keep it to, but I'm not the richest guy on this server. I tend to sell my older parts when it's time to upgrade.

@rancid juniper we will now win more games

[rancid juniper]

😂

yea ofc

[dusk knot]

Rasterization gains over last gen= the amount of extra wins

[wise wigeon]

Selling mine to my brother, just a heavy discount

[hoary zodiac]

generate wins with AI

[dusk knot]

Next gen

This 4080 is only for the next 2 years

Or if the 5080ti is impressive

[tranquil pebble]

Generate AI with AI

[gentle canyon]

the more ai you buy the more ai you save

[tranquil pebble]

Know what else sadly died? Nikon D5000 series

[pliant berry]

rip my d500

[hoary zodiac]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

As a D7000 user, I offer ny condolences

[velvet summit]

what happened 10 years ago

[paper verge]

this was apart of the youtuber history program, they decided that they'll embrace the current culture in older times by doing stuff like that

[tranquil pebble]

D7000 is still alive and well

5000 and 3000 got axed

[hoary zodiac]

💀

16mp sensor still going strong

The power of having an APS-C sensor

[tranquil pebble]

APS-C is what is in my D5600, but it is like 22 MP

[hoary zodiac]

👀

I want a bigger sensor ngl

Good thing about Nikon F is that I can just do that

And keep my lenses

[tranquil pebble]

This will likely be my next camera

Z5

[hoary zodiac]

Oooo

Are the ZTF adapters any good?

FTZ*

[tranquil pebble]

idk but full frame camera for less than $1k is nice

[hoary zodiac]

Really?

Damn

[dusk knot]

oof

[hoary zodiac]

Are they mirrorless too?

[tranquil pebble]

yes

[random osprey]

bro got the dual mag sd card upgrade

[hoary zodiac]

That's pretty banger

[tranquil pebble]

I also like Nikon firmware in general

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah that's why flagships are poggers

Even used ones

[fresh timber]

I want a camera just to use it as a webcam

[hoary zodiac]

Dual SD card slot any day

[hoary zodiac]

Especially used ones tbh

[tranquil pebble]

has OLED viewfinder too

[hoary zodiac]

👀

HD?

Wait

That's the viewfinder????

Not the screen

Damnn

Meanwhile I'm still waiting for older DSLRs to drop in price

😭

16mp has its limits

[tranquil pebble]

22 is enough for me tbh

[hoary zodiac]

My 16mp sensor still looks pretty good but

Having more cropping headroom would be nice

It really does come down to cropping

[fresh timber]

https://youtu.be/BrbtxPn9_lU?si=JaR7p5Wys6pIcRtJ the only review that gives 5090 a new light, conviently one that doesn’t involve gaming lmfao

50% improvement in image generation

[tranquil pebble]

Watch AI eventually crash and Nvidia start focusing heavily on gamers again

[pliant berry]

at some point I want to get rid of my d500 and get a z8

[hoary zodiac]

By the time I upgrade my D7000 will probably be worthless

... But still better than a smartphone camera

[random osprey]

get rid of it at my address

[pliant berry]

lmao

[random osprey]

rebel t6i can only do so much

[rancid juniper]

spiderman + RT ultimate + native res = Stutterfest 2

[frigid stag]

Need nvidia

[pliant berry]

I want to acquire a few more lenses before I spend on another body

my next target is a 180-600mm. hopefully in the spring if im not poor

[rancid juniper]

😔

never

[fresh timber]

I didn’t even dare Ray trace

But that looks sooo good

[rancid juniper]

indeed it does

[fresh timber]

Somebody give me raytracing capable gpu

5080

[pliant berry]

dw you not missing anything

[fresh timber]

I’m missing

That screenshot shows I’m missing

[hoary zodiac]

Real

I'd love one of those but they cost $$$

So versatile tho

[rancid juniper]

nah its not truly worth it yet if that tanks performance so hard

[tranquil pebble]

imagine path traced Counter Strike

[hoary zodiac]

atm I got a 18-270 with my D7000

It was like $100

Tamron too

[pliant berry]

the one im looking at is only 1800usd. sucks that you can't really use it indoors though. I ain't shelling out 13k for a 400mm f2.8

[fresh timber]

Go ultra to high max dlss ezzz

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's great for outdoors tho

[tranquil pebble]

mine is 18-55mm... not the best but its good at close shots

[hoary zodiac]

You can always carry around 2 lenses

If you have to do mixed environments

[tranquil pebble]

and by good I mean really good

[pliant berry]

yeah as long as it's not too cloudy

[hoary zodiac]

Full frame?

Or crop

[tranquil pebble]

APS-C, so crop

[hoary zodiac]

Ah

[tranquil pebble]

Nikon DX format

[hoary zodiac]

ayo DX gang

[tranquil pebble]

5600 takes some great pics tbh

[pliant berry]

I just got a 24-70mm f2.8, love that thing. so versatile, sharp and fast

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah a lot of these older cameras are really good

You only start seeing huge difference if you're leaping a decade

A decade old camera is still better than a smartphone

In terms of raw picture quality

[tranquil pebble]

I bought my 5600 new, but apparently I paid less than MSRP for it lol

[hoary zodiac]

Size matters

[hoary zodiac]

Oh damn

How much?

[tranquil pebble]

$600, and included a lens

[rancid juniper]

Left: RT ultimate + native res (1440p) + TAA + MAX Graphics
Right: RT ultimate + XeSS Quality + MAX Graphics
Bottom right: RT ultimate + XeSS Quality + Framegen + MAX Graphics

[tranquil pebble]

So the shutter on it is nowhere even remotely close to its limits

[hoary zodiac]

I paid like $350 for my D7000 (came with a 55-200mm + $100 for my 18-270 lens)

[rancid juniper]

hmm

[hoary zodiac]

My shutter is probably more worn out but

It's not an expensive camera (relatively speaking)

So I'll get my money's worth

• lenses can be reused so

[fresh timber]

I can only tell which one doesn’t have reflections in my phone tn lol

[hoary zodiac]

So really the camera was around

$270?

When subtracting the lenses

[tranquil pebble]

check the metadata of the last photo taken to see shutter counts

[pliant berry]

ummm waaaooooh the ray tracing looks soo amazing

[fresh timber]

For some reason no spiderman 2 has less fps with far than with Taa

[fresh timber]

I was telling you

[tranquil pebble]

lol you can pay that much for a crappy non-interchangable camera

good deal id say

[sinful blade]

Reapplying for disability is a pain in the booty cheeks

[hoary zodiac]

That's after subtracting the value of the lens it came with

Which

Lens retain value so

I can always sell it

[pliant berry]

reminds me someone was asking me about buying a camera with a shutter count of around 4000 because they were concerned that it is worn. then I said I bought my camera used with a shutter count of like 250,000 xD

it's probably closer to 400k now

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

I'll probably sell my D7000 with the stock lens

[fresh timber]

They have to make sure your are disabled

[hoary zodiac]

I could probably ask for what I paid for tbh

Since I bought it in the Chinese market

The Aussie market is a bit more inflated

Oh

Nvm

D7000 not expensive here either

It's dirt cheap

Great starter camera tbh

[rancid juniper]

lol

[pliant berry]

yeah well it's over a decade old at this point

[rancid juniper]

and its barely playable ☠️

[pliant berry]

agreed my first work camera was a d7100

[pliant berry]

I can imagine

[hoary zodiac]

These older flagships have great features

Ages a lot better than the mid rangers

[fresh timber]

Your remaining me to get on to finish some missions

[rancid juniper]

and im just goofin around

[pliant berry]

Yeah I still know some people that are dailying a d5

now.. that's still a really expensive camera. but impressive it can last that long

[tranquil pebble]

Also just gonna say disposable digital cameras were one of the biggest scams ever

[hoary zodiac]

They're built really well too

What's the point lol

It's not like a film camera

Where you just expose the film

[hoary zodiac]

Why make a digital camera disposable

[tranquil pebble]

the point was likely to "sell" the same camera multile times

or at least the same components

[hoary zodiac]

Who's dumb enough to buy them

[tranquil pebble]

I never was

[hoary zodiac]

Makes even less sense with film

[wise wigeon]

Dammit, usb3 is blocked

[hoary zodiac]

Since used SLRs are pretty cheap too

[tranquil pebble]

it did make sense at one point. In the 90s.

Disposable digital is pure stupidity though

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it's not like there are any components that wear out

[tranquil pebble]

Well, the shutter can... but the artifical limit of 25 photos lol

[hoary zodiac]

Bruh

Are they even good quality

They're not going to put a good sensor inside that thing

That's for sure

Might as well just get a point and shoot

[tranquil pebble]

no

and worst of all... unlike the film counterpart, you had to worry about battery life

[rancid juniper]

looks like spider-man 2 is using an slightly older version of XeSS (1.3.0)

[tranquil pebble]

Well that and being told you can only use "your" camera 25 times

[hoary zodiac]

I haven't installed metadata software yet but

My camera names photos sequentially so

Only 10K seems low

For a used D7000

Gonna wait until my system update

[pliant berry]

the naming resets at 10k

[hoary zodiac]

Ah

I see

[fresh timber]

i need to try xess sense fsr gives me less fps

[pliant berry]

there is another way to check the actual shutter count but i don't remember how you do that

[rancid juniper]

XeSs is really good, i prefer that much more than FSR

[hoary zodiac]

I'm trying to install affinity on linux

[pliant berry]

oh boy

[fresh timber]

less fps than fsr in my limited testing but better quality i never noticed it unless i was squinting

also samsung dex is very good im not gonna lie

[rancid juniper]

samsung pc

[fresh timber]

if i plugged it into a display instead of essentialy streaming to my pc it would be very smooth, also if i had a faster phone to use it with

[tranquil pebble]

normal Android has something like this too now

[fresh timber]

i wish my iphone could do this

[tranquil pebble]

Average Apple L

[wise wigeon]

Welp apparently I gotta do this

Or I contact them for an extension

[fresh timber]

until we get imesesage and facetime on android i wont swap

[wise wigeon]

Ima do that instead

[tranquil pebble]

vendor lock in moment

[velvet summit]

i'll be honest
these images are more confusing than they are helpful

wait, i see they're numbered, but why cant i see 3

[wise wigeon]

They want me to remove the management bracket plug the usb3 in , bend it 90 degrees, and replace the bracket

Ima pass on that

Ima just ask them to gimme a extension cable

I sparingly use my front usb anyway

[tranquil pebble]

average "reasonably" priced ebay RTX card

[velvet summit]

technicallythetruth

[hoary zodiac]

ahahhahahaha wtf

[tranquil pebble]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-rtx-3090-sent-in-to-repairer-was-missing-the-gpu-and-all-its-memory-chips

scavenging GPU ICs then selling the useless PCB to unwitting victims has become fairly common

[mortal grail]

Yeah

Be really careful bro, see the article above^

Those sorts of prices are sus af because they're super cheap

[icy ore]

Would be nice but yeah

Sketch

[rancid juniper]

i updated both of the upscaling technologies @fresh timber
XeSS 1.3.0 > 2.0
FSR 3.1 > 3.1.3

[fresh timber]

have u solved the crashing problem

[dusk knot]

I didn’t fall for it. Got a 4080 instead

[fresh timber]

bro

[mortal grail]

Ooo how much

[fresh timber]

LET ME FLIPPING PLAY THE DAMN AME

[mortal grail]

💀 Doa game anw

[fresh timber]

well

it arived a year ago

so its not doa

[mortal grail]

Oh 2

LOL

[fresh timber]

yes

[mortal grail]

It's not even the broken ass 3

[fresh timber]

spiderman 1 doesnt crash for me

[mortal grail]

Tf

[fresh timber]

Miles one also doesn’t

I played it on ps5

[rancid juniper]

LMAO

[tranquil pebble]

wonder if Spider Man 2 can run on Linux

[fresh timber]

How did you fix this sensitive ass game

[fresh timber]

Platinum

[misty sparrow]

Spider-Man's greatest foe: game crashes

[rancid juniper]

24.12.1 drivers

i dunno

it just works on my machine

[tranquil pebble]

I wonder how Apple feels about OS X no longer being second place for gaming but third place because of Proton lol

[misty sparrow]

they probably don't care, most people who get OSX dont play games

[fresh timber]

When I get a Mac if I wanna game I’m remotung into gaming pc

[pliant berry]

their gaming market is just mobile really

[tranquil pebble]

yeah probably just like "meh, whatever" reaction

[pliant berry]

even better, just take a steam deck with you on your journey

[fresh timber]

You know me, I’m a deck hater

[tranquil pebble]

play browser games lol

or like Minecraft

[fresh timber]

Mac plays my go to travel games, Roblox Minecraft

College has good WiFi so I can remote home with relatively good latency,

Iv visited it a few times to confirm

Gigabit in the damn desktops and WiFi is limited by my phone lolll

[tranquil pebble]

my phone is WiFi 7 capable

[fresh timber]

Mines is 6 but not the fastest 6 device tested

[velvet summit]

michael wave

[mortal grail]

Michael soft binblows

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XtjkTmKzSzU

[storm narwhal]

Moonlight and parsec work on the Mac as a client device

[fresh timber]

Conviently I’m setup to use moonlight remotely

[storm narwhal]

They're my go to

Loll

Have a backup or two

[fresh timber]

I use parsec

[storm narwhal]

Oh nice yeah

[fresh timber]

And moon

But not at the same time

[storm narwhal]

At the same time

It starts echoing dont

[unreal trail]

[fresh timber]

I said not at the same

[storm narwhal]

Just saying if you were ever curious

[pliant berry]

I tried both moonlight and parsec but they are kind of annoying to use on mobile

[storm narwhal]

This is valid

[fresh timber]

Well parsec doesn’t even have a mobile app

[storm narwhal]

Chrome remote still has the best mobile useability

[pliant berry]

well yeah that's my issue with parsec

[fresh timber]

And moonlight has the option to boot into steam big picture

So it’s good

[storm narwhal]

Parsec is limited by no zoom

On mobile

[fresh timber]

Lucky for me I only game with it so I just need my controller and big picture

[storm narwhal]

Moonlight is about the same but the touchscreen can be trackpad

[pliant berry]

I want an app similar to vnc where you can access all the main keeb mouse functions and zoom into sections of the screen

[storm narwhal]

Yeahh

Only chrome remote desktop can do that as far as I know

[fresh timber]

bro

ALL I DO IS TAB OUT

HOLY

WHEN ARE THEY RElEASING A MF FIX

[storm narwhal]

Dont full screen?

[nocturne flicker]

Play windowed

[storm narwhal]

Idk lol

[fresh timber]

I PLAY boarderless windowed 😭

[storm narwhal]

LMAOOO

[misty sparrow]

i dont know why you would buy a pc port day one

before seeing what people are saying

[storm narwhal]

Also that tbh

[fresh timber]

who said anything about paying

[storm narwhal]

I usually wait for a while

[fresh timber]

looks like they released a fix today

[hoary zodiac]

I hate Microsoft servers

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/bCfwiLnSKKY

[storm narwhal]

Michaelsoft Sundae

[fresh timber]

what do u notice @rancid juniper

in the background

[misty sparrow]

my television now has its backlight going out, RIP

[rancid juniper]

j jonah

[rancid juniper]

green sign

[fresh timber]

soo i crashed but it wasnt the games fault

[rancid juniper]

bro

[misty sparrow]

honestly whenever any of you post in-game screenshots of any game and ask what low quality thing in the game is low quality, i can't even tell

[rancid juniper]

revert your driver to the latest certified one

that driver is dummy buggy

[fresh timber]

i have an question for teh developers

and amd

[rancid juniper]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/graphics/radeon-rx/radeon-rx-7000-series/amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt.html

[fresh timber]

why release a driver FOR this game

THEN SAY ITS ADDED TO ThAT DRIVER

BUT IT NOT WORK FOR THIS GAME

?????

[rancid juniper]

because Amdumb

[fresh timber]

JUST DONT rELEASE ANYTHING THEN

[rancid juniper]

it is optional as it doesn't show on the official driver page

[misty sparrow]

do you think it's because you got the....special version of the game?

[fresh timber]

the kicker

the game then recommends you download the optional driver

[fresh timber]

i may or may not have located the patch

[rancid juniper]

Broker-Man 2

[fresh timber]

and may or may not be updated to the latest

through a may or may not legal way

i love having fast internet

makes 700MB small

wtfd is microsoft doing

ill swap to linux one of these days

[misty sparrow]

Broker-Man: Kilometers Morales

[fresh timber]

ugh

[rancid juniper]

can run

[fresh timber]

all problems can be solved by funny white box

[misty sparrow]

i 100% completed the entire game in 15 hours

[fresh timber]

i need to finish miles morals

[misty sparrow]

for a full priced $70 game it can be 100% awfully quick

i played on a hard difficulty by the way

[fresh timber]

to be fair

[rancid juniper]

wow... thats crazy short

[fresh timber]

TO BE FAIR

aint no way u really 100% it

[misty sparrow]

yeah i did

[fresh timber]

did u get all the skins?

every side mission

[misty sparrow]

game told me i got 100% and got all trophies

[fresh timber]

collected evrey single collectable item?

[misty sparrow]

all of those things are required for every trophy so yes

[fresh timber]

how...

do u sit down at the ps5 and play all day or someting

[misty sparrow]

no, the game is just really lacking in content

it's pretty much an expansion pack for Spider-Man and Miles Morales

[fresh timber]

Iv been thrilled by this game

First game in years iv enjoyed

[sweet phoenix]

My friend fully completed it within the first week of launch

[fresh timber]

I never finished spiderman remastered

[sweet phoenix]

It was insane

100%

[fresh timber]

Tbh I can finish anything with all my free time

The art of no job

[sweet phoenix]

I still need to play Sekiro

[fresh timber]

It’s boring to me

[sweet phoenix]

It's just so god damn difficult

[fresh timber]

STOP RECOMENDING BUGGY DRIBERS

@sweet phoenix like the pc Jeff the land shark

[misty sparrow]

okay i lied i played for 25 hours

that's still really short for 100%

[sweet phoenix]

God I hate carter

Cool pc though

[fresh timber]

Lmfao what he do to you

The 5090 isn’t plugged in atleast

No power

[misty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/134286179121102848/1332490340438904933/thermal-paste-mother-board-4098817493.gif

[pliant berry]

yeah i was about to say

[fresh timber]

I can get 60 fps with minimal ray tracing

@rancid juniper what upscaling and anti aa do u use

for best perofmrance and quality

[rancid juniper]

XeSS

[fresh timber]

and ima run native cause my fps didnt change at all

OO I FIGURED IT OUT

you gotta change ur fps target

changed it to 90 and my fps went to 90

[rancid juniper]

lol

[dusk knot]

Hm

[velvet summit]

https://youtu.be/NnSWDKfT7FQ

[dusk knot]

600

[wise wigeon]

Slight bulge but what can you do

[random osprey]

hammer

[worn wave]

Target or limit? Target might be dynamically lowering base res before upscaling

[fresh timber]

which did i say

did i say target or limit 🤔

[worn wave]

... so you figured out that lowering resolution gives performance gains

[fresh timber]

yes

[wise wigeon]

What in the

[worn wave]

Congrats

[fresh timber]

i like 90fps upscaled more than 60fps no upsccaling

[worn wave]

That's fair, esp since "native" res is using TAA anyways

[wise wigeon]

Ok well I guess while I email Lian li about a USB 3 extension I'll ask them about a new front panel because I literally can't get this out

[proud jackal]

HUHHHHHHHHHHH

[random osprey]

buy buy buy

wait out of stock

[random osprey]

naht, save one for theo

[proud jackal]

why is it 280 more than msrp

[fresh timber]

LMFAO @rancid juniperTHe gAME BUGGEDO UT AND THEIRS TWO NOW

[rancid juniper]

lore accurate symbiote

[dusk knot]

I thought you said you were staying away from the astral???

[dusk knot]

AGENT VENOM??

[fresh timber]

100% more than one venom

[proud jackal]

im just looking

_>

[fresh timber]

yes technicly

[dusk knot]

OH wow....hes in video games now

nice

will be buying the game soon

[dusk knot]

is the game buggy?

[wise wigeon]

I think my build might be cursed of something

[fresh timber]

im not the only one

[fresh timber]

yes

its a bug

i fixed the crashing problem ish

it only crashes in loading sceen and such

once i load the game up and play for a sec i dont crash

[dusk knot]

thats it?

[fresh timber]

theirs visaul artifacting u can ignore

i think its a problem with the upscaling

[dusk knot]

ok

[wise wigeon]

That's still like not the greatest

[fresh timber]

it doesnt take away from the game ¯_(ツ)_/¯

shoudlnt be a big deal

[dusk knot]

i will wait for the game to go on sale

[fresh timber]

valid

it cost too much

i was considering buying it on my ps5 so no bugs

[mortal grail]

Just be careful of people stealing vram and cores lad, that's cheap af still

Still bit sus price

[dusk knot]

yeah.....well good thing buyer protection exists

[mortal grail]

Use goods and services, never upfront cash or gift

Yeah

Be careful af

If you land it though I will shed a tear I'll be so freaking proud of u

[rancid juniper]

wait wait, where you bought it from?

[deep parcel]

hmmm 5090 or car...

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

[dusk knot]

yes. ive learned my lesson from 2020

[proud jackal]

whichj car

[mortal grail]

@sage sluice It's up and running

[dusk knot]

sure........................

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-drive-drive-my-car-gif-7675608

[deep parcel]

dunno at 3k probably would have to be fairly cheap so maybe some honda lol

2006 civic or somethin

[mortal grail]

@sage sluice I have all 4 screens running off my XTX. 2x 4K 144 10 bit, 2x 4K60 10 bit

I still need to configure one of the screens tho for when I run no capture passthrough

[misty sparrow]

-# Can you spare one of your screens?

[mortal grail]

I only daily 2 Frost

Lmao

[rancid juniper]

[dusk knot]

a car for 3k is almost trash. I will take the 5090

[mortal grail]

But I am shuffling stuff around

Also I just have had this thing in storage I wanna use it

[hoary zodiac]

Serbian Car

[mortal grail]

So I'll be up to as much as 3 daily

But now I've got both my game system and my work system running 2 each, but all 4 are connected to both, so I can be crazy if I want to lmao

[deep parcel]

so youre calling a 2006 civic trash? I mean tbh if its that cheap it probably has like 200k miles lol

[rancid juniper]

GPU VS CAR DEBATE

[fresh timber]

i need a car so a car

but i dont need a car right now so a gpu

:))

[dusk knot]

i already have an 07 and its already falling apart lol

[mortal grail]

@rancid juniper How's this for an RDNA 3 power issue, my idle with all 4 running wallpapers at 96W

So much for idle power bug

[dusk knot]

the engine runs well tho

[fresh timber]

mines doe the same th9ing

i idle at like 70w

[fresh timber]

why cant amd just idle

[mortal grail]

I'm running 4x 4k screens tho

[dusk knot]

sadly I have a power stearing leak. its a pain

[deep parcel]

yep those engines be super stronk... but interior breaking is common

oof

[fresh timber]

im running 1440p and 1080p 240hz and 165hz

[mortal grail]

If I divide by 4 I'm under 25W

[rancid juniper]

I...

[fresh timber]

i dont think thats how it owrks

[dusk knot]

yeah. the engine is working almost like new

[rancid juniper]

i mean its kinda low for what its doing

[fresh timber]

unpug all but one display, see what happens

if ur lower than my 7700xt trying to look at a wallpaper i will cry

[mortal grail]

I'm not explaining this again to the 500th person, because vblanks are set properly I don't have an idle power bug it's sarcasm

[rancid juniper]

this is my gpu rendering a 1440p 170hz display

[mortal grail]

You can idle properly if you know what you're doing

Idle bug was barely a real thing

[misty sparrow]

I knew someone that told me the mileage of my car was really high. If only he drove very frequently.

[fresh timber]

so u did a thing that amd should do by default?

[mortal grail]

My 4090 idles at 102W on 2 4K screens

[mortal grail]

No

[fresh timber]

how do i do it

i wanna join low idle gang

[misty sparrow]

But those civics are pretty reliable right? They're not like ford f150s that break constantly

[deep parcel]

civics are pretty reliable depending on the model

and year

[mortal grail]

People plug in their high end monitors and think "Well why I no...??? WHY MY POWER SO HIGH!??" When they need to realise the caliber of screens people run these days are just ridiculously good at dragging GPUs out of PL Idle state

We had tons of people who genuinely had 100W idle on their 4K screens but just said that without taking the time to work out what was happening

[deep parcel]

man... in 2 years this will be a 10 year old car...

[rancid juniper]

wild

[mortal grail]

To do it properly you need to match your vblank timings up. This means run the monitors in a ratio of each other that is directly divided

[misty sparrow]

I keep getting civics mixed up with accords, same thing with toyota camry and prius cars

[fresh timber]

o, that explains alot

[mortal grail]

Vblank is the refresh cycle, i.e hz

[fresh timber]

i no longer have the want to do this

[mortal grail]

So if you have 1 240hz screen, make the other screen hz able to be divided by the first one

[fresh timber]

ill happily suffer at the expensive of higher refreshrate

[mortal grail]

So 120 and 240

[mortal grail]

Yes 240 then either 120 or 180

That will drop idle power

A LOT

[deep parcel]

whats wild is by the time I am able to get some of my dream cars if I wanted to they will probably be like 35-40+ years old by then...

[sinful blade]

Lemme just show them the 10+ medical problems I have

[mortal grail]

Every. single. card. I have owned does this idle bug stuff

It's just RDNA 3 is a little easier to trigger

[fresh timber]

intresting

[misty sparrow]

wouldn't it be one? car manufacturers tend to release future models the year prior. i keep seeing car companies advertise things like "[Vehicle Name] 2024" in 2023, for example

[mortal grail]

My 4090 is on a 4K144 and a 4K120 and it's pulling 102W idle rn

[misty sparrow]

i always thought it was strange

[mortal grail]

So it's like

[fresh timber]

im used to my rx6600 barley using 20w idle

[rancid juniper]

as long as it moves im sold ig

[mortal grail]

Both nvidia and AMD do this stuff

[fresh timber]

7700xt is a power hog compared to my old gpu

[mortal grail]

Ye cos RDNA 3 can be triggered to a higher PL state a little easier

But they all have a threshold

I've had both my XTX's at a sub 25W idle

You just need to keep the total bandwidth low enough in tune with the vblank intervals synced

[fresh timber]

my gpu want list rn is 7900xt, 5070, 5080, 7900xxtx

[mortal grail]

I have twice as many screens as the 4090 rn pulling 4W less power

Idle bug was hardly ever an actual thing

[fresh timber]

i mean

my gpu had a real idle bug at launch

[mortal grail]

Had tons of arguments with people about it cos they wouldn't believe my numbers, but once the Red rebellion team explained it to me (The guys behind AMD's MPT tool) I understood everything

[mortal grail]

That's what I'm trying to say, it barely did

The difference was it's a little more sensitive and it would maybe idle in actuality like 10W more if you set it properly

AMD patched that out tho

It wasn't 80W more like people were saying

Everyone I met complaining about that had ridiculously powerful monitors

It was a consistent trend

[fresh timber]

can amd optmise this to not be a problem

[mortal grail]

I think due to chiplet? Maybe not much more than what it is rn

It's very sensitive to being pulled out of idle state

The numbers people were claiming for this tier of monitors anyway were absurd

You don't get 25=30W on any nvidia card on a 4K 120+ hz screen

It doesn't happen

You get 45-50W

[fresh timber]

cause nvidia is clearly better duhhh

[mortal grail]

And it compounds with vblank desync

[fresh timber]

r/nvidia

[mortal grail]

It's really a non issue imo

Like you bought the high end hardware to begin with, 10 or 20 watts shouldn't be on the mind

[fresh timber]

power usage is a problem to some people, but if its this easy

[mortal grail]

A monitor will probably pull more power anyway

Go look at OLED, miniLED, QLED

[fresh timber]

i want a oled monitor

[mortal grail]

You're pulling a lot of power to begin with

[fresh timber]

if i have money left over from new gpu, macbook, and other stuff i might get oled

[mortal grail]

Like 20W extra on any gpu isn't gonna fix the 60W extra anyway on the oled

Lmao

[misty sparrow]

-# i want an oled TV, that 48" LG B4 for $600 looks really enticing right now

[mortal grail]

It'd take years to make any notable money impact anyway

Far in any noted scale of a premium PC

Even in places with absurd power prices

[misty sparrow]

how do you see the wattage amount that your components are pulling?

[fresh timber]

i use a intel cpu

[velvet summit]

power monitor

[fresh timber]

thats all u need to know

[velvet summit]

at the outlet

most components dont have power monitoring

[mortal grail]

Monitors you use a power outlet monitor yeah

[fair onyx]

5 days into having the modded GPU, and it's been working fantastic

[mortal grail]

Otherwise you get software monitors but those aren't perfect either

[fresh timber]

i have to end this task just to get the app to open

[fresh timber]

give me vram

[misty sparrow]

well, you posted some picture of a software tool

[fresh timber]

running deepseek 8b is fun on 12gb vram, and its tstupid

[misty sparrow]

what software tool is it?

[mortal grail]

That was just hwinfo64

[fresh timber]

i wanna get a smartoutlet plugged into the outlet that poiwers my entire setup

[velvet summit]

oh that's just for gpu and cpu power, it shows nothing else

[fair onyx]

I've been wanting to mess around with the 70b. I have to quantize it myself tho

[fresh timber]

i set monitors to lower

[fair onyx]

@fresh timber also, you have enough VRAM for the 14b with quantization

[fresh timber]

but is it fast

8gb alr takes a lil time to complete

[fair onyx]

Quantization with EXL2 is extremely fast

[fresh timber]

i also have no idea what quantization is

i run the 3rd one on my list

[fair onyx]

It runs the model at a lower accuracy to save compute and VRAM

You can quantize models down considerably before they drop off in quality

[fresh timber]

o

[fair onyx]

Assuming you have an NVIDIA GPU I can help you set up EXL2 sometime. It's blazing fast

[fresh timber]

mhh

[fresh timber]

sad i dont

im poor and cant afford good gpus

[fair onyx]

Ahhhhhh, that makes it harder then

[fresh timber]

i was looking into buying 3060 for fun

but i need to upgrade my server id put it in first, cpu a lil poo

[fair onyx]

Valid

[fresh timber]

my 2300x is a intresting cpu

then i have a rx6600 in their for a windows vm to use it as a htpc and server

ima convice my mom to let me put it in the living room one of these days

[fresh timber]

should vram always be maxed ish

[mortal grail]

Pretty sure that happens when you're out of idle state

[fresh timber]

i give up trying to minmax performance set 2nd display to 1080p 120hz didnt realy change much

back to doing what i did for years

[fair onyx]

@fresh timber this is the speed that the 32b runs at across both my GPUs. It would be a good bit fast if my second GPU wasn't on a super slow connection 😅

[fresh timber]

woww

im thinking about getthign this for my server pc cause amazon and quick

o shoot

ugh resist

i think i could run it with out frying the vrms

o shoot i could

[icy ore]

https://youtu.be/KnWzz0n60pE?si=ghW1ssOzyA8g7p6g

Hmmm

Interesting

[mortal grail]

It may end up lowering just a little bit but the bandwidth the gpu needs to pull will still drag it out of idle anyway

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah 5700/x are low power

5700 would be nice for a server

[mortal grail]

(Sorry I'm currently calibrating a monitor)

[sweet phoenix]

5500 meh

[mortal grail]

(I'm in and out of chat)

[fair onyx]

@fresh timber here is a 3090 running the 7b

This one's not very smart, but it's stupid fast lol

[mortal grail]

To give context for example, my 1650 will go full power at a 4K60 situation

Tiny little thing loses it at 4K video lmao

[fresh timber]

nothing is meh compared to the 2300x

[fresh timber]

o fun!

4c4t is pain bacca

[mortal grail]

Nyoom

I have nearly 180 degrees of pure monitor rn

[fresh timber]

lmfao

if i get a oled ima get a 1440p 240hz oled

[mortal grail]

It's not the most I've run off one gpu tho

My record iirc is 6

[fresh timber]

three monitors.. no wonder my powerbill is high

my moms like: i only let this slide cause u do good in school and stay out of trouble 🤓

[mortal grail]

Ok with everything running I bump up to about 120W

Not bad

[fresh timber]

damn

i wanna downsize my setup to mini pcs

[fair onyx]

@fresh timber what GPU do you have?

[fresh timber]

one mini pc for my windows stuff i require, and anotehr mini pc for proxmox only

[fresh timber]

7700xt

[fair onyx]

Gotcha, gotcha

[fresh timber]

rn i run a full desktop wwith promxox installed and a rx6600 passthrough to the windows vm, i dont know what eletricty bill is

downsizing to mini pcs would save me space and power, but wallet says no

[fresh timber]

are their ai models that haev intenet acess

me and my hommie been playing with my deepseek discord bot

and it would be cool if it had net

this is fun

o god...

he can use sd

[mortal grail]

Ok 3 @ 4K144 10bit, 1 @ 4K60 10bit

I'm at 100W

No I went down

97W

Only barely

Everything up I went up 3W

If only the last screen was 144Hz lmao

I reckon it would drop a little

Anyway

@fresh timber 2 only

[fresh timber]

damn

idk how u do it

ur smart man

[mortal grail]

Lets try just one

@fresh timber

Had to close discord but yeah

I kinda can just divide lmao

3 screens it doesn't drop is the only thing

But 2 and 1 def do drop

Annoying taking pics flicking between hdr on and off lmao

I should preface this btw

The scaling has a lot of dependence on monitor refresh rate

It gets harder to pull idle state on RDNA 3 the higher the refresh rate is

Even if it's less bandwidth than a higher resolution

I can't really explain that part but there is a measurable scaling to it

[fresh timber]

are you stupid

[fresh timber]

rdna 3 weird

yes yes

[misty sparrow]

homander

[fresh timber]

we asked who the best spiderman is...

its bee nworking for 3 mins now

[mortal grail]

@fresh timber 4090 has the same scaling

[fresh timber]

can i borrow ur 4090 for ai frfr

the 7700xt is killing me, one qusetion is taking it a few mins rn

[mortal grail]

It's in fact higher at 2 screens vs the XTX

That doesn't seem right

Wait I forgot something

Brb

[fresh timber]

ill also take ur xtx

ugh

theirs not many xtx on ebay for a good price

[mortal grail]

There we go, that's more realistic

Notice that it's now memory idle

[fresh timber]

yes yes

[mortal grail]

Tf

If I run 144hz single screen

It idles at 80W

But 120, DSC OFF

34W

Maybe that's what the Hz scaling is for the XTX too

Maybe DSC is the cause

TMW the XTX has a lower floor

TF

I don't get this last one

It goes UP when it has one less screen

Oh wait no

It's the same

So it's a state change

That's unusual

[fresh timber]

How’s the xtx raytracing

[mortal grail]

It's fine honestly

Like it's obviously worse

But I have never noticed anything outlandish like FSR issues for example

Just lower FPS

And not by a whole lot in most situations anyway

Sometimes games even come out with like, poor numbers initially, then a later update gets the RT numbers jumping up a fair bit

Like Cyberpunk is a big example of that just to name one

It's an nvidia beloved title after all

[fresh timber]

lol

Used xtx prices are all over from my 5 second eBay search

1000+ 700, 800

[mortal grail]

700-800 sounds about right to me

That'd be a decent buy

7900XT for 650 new or like, 580 used, nice too

550?

I've never really checked out used 7900XT's but they'd definitely be sub 600

Considering a 6900XT or 3080Ti hover just above 400 yeah

It'll be above 500 used

Be a good buy imo

[fresh timber]

O shoot, I think they stopped selling xtx

[mortal grail]

More likely no stock

This has happened a few times

[fresh timber]

9070xt prep??

[mortal grail]

Big selling period, influx of buyers

Nah they won't stop selling now no way

No replacement product

That would be insane

No this just looks like they're selling out

Yeah the creator is still there lmao

Yeah @fresh timber

People are learning they won't get a 50 series card and are just caving

AMD is harvesting on people who missed 50 series

That's all

It'll come back soon

This happened on black friday sales too

GRE disappeared, then a few days later it was back lol

[fresh timber]

Darn

Good thing I can’t afford it rn

I got like, until may until I get rich

[mortal grail]

Damn

My DP cable for the additional monitor is the DOA one

Idk why I kept that lmao

[dusk knot]

Hmm

[lone mango]

I love amd

[dusk knot]

Amd cpus good