general-chat

[elfin mural]

shouldn't it be $5090

scalpers go wild

(i blame ngreedia for doing such a horrible launch and letting this happen)

[icy ore]

they always do smh

false scarcity

keeps them from having a bad launch

[elfin mural]

$5000 gpus

mmm

msrp is to never be taken to heart but damn

5k

[icy ore]

right

[misty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/134286179121102848/1332490340438904933/thermal-paste-mother-board-4098817493.gif

[elfin mural]

worse than 3090

[icy ore]

I do remember the 3090 being bad but not that bad

lol

[elfin mural]

someone dropped $500 just to get a ticket to buy a 5090 at microcenter

insane

[icy ore]

[elfin mural]

that's what happens when you hype something up

and refuse to supply it

[icy ore]

not even a guarantee they’d get it

just $500 to stand in line

where do people get this money from

like holy hell

[misty sparrow]

should i print out pictures of the 5090 and sell them on ebay for the MSRP of a normal 5090

[icy ore]

Scummy but no telling how many have done it

They did on 3xxx launch too

[hoary zodiac]

What's funny is that

It's not even good value at msrp

[elfin mural]

the hype is real

[hoary zodiac]

And the AiB cards are definitely going to be overpriced to hell

Like

[elfin mural]

nvidia hyped it up so much

[hoary zodiac]

Who is stupid enough to buy this

The only exception is 4K gamers

[elfin mural]

intentionally messed up the launch

[hoary zodiac]

That is the only reason to get a 5090

[elfin mural]

so that people race to buy at the highest price possible

[hoary zodiac]

This entire generation is screwed

[devout forum]

FOMO, nGreedAI marketing

[hoary zodiac]

9800X3D is the only good product

[devout forum]

People want the newest shiny thing

[elfin mural]

yeah it's literally fomo

[hoary zodiac]

To come out recently

B580 is second place

[devout forum]

Meanwhile me just want a 4090 but can't afford it

[elfin mural]

im patiently waiting for nvidia to give 40 series mfg

[hoary zodiac]

I just want prices to go back down

Like

[elfin mural]

or smooth motion feature

[devout forum]

Nah not happening

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not upgrading any time soon because

[elfin mural]

it will at this rate

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not gaming anymore

At least not playing new titles

[devout forum]

the uproar on that making the entire 50 series obsolete would be insane

[elfin mural]

nvidia talked about 30 series getting 1x fg

[hoary zodiac]

The newer games and overpriced and crap tpo

[elfin mural]

btw

so that must mean..

[hoary zodiac]

So there's no incentive to upgrade for me

[elfin mural]

40 series is bound to receive that

[hoary zodiac]

Mobile?

Would be funny...

[elfin mural]

well all rtx

lol

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

[elfin mural]

i just want smooth motion tbh

[tranquil pebble]

Real Time eXpensive

[elfin mural]

dlss frame gen for anything on dx11/12

it's like afmf

just nvidia

[tranquil pebble]

imagine frame gen on the Windows UI

[hoary zodiac]

I just want a good price

I ain't moving off this 3070

Until prices go down

And if I actually need a new gpu...

[elfin mural]

roblox could use frame gen because some stuff i play in there is SO HEAVY for no reason

[hoary zodiac]

(there are quite literally no games worth playing that need a gpu upgrade for me)

[elfin mural]

the render distance is insane and there's barely any culling

[hoary zodiac]

Average roblox optimisation

[elfin mural]

roblox™

a game where a 4090 can sweat

[misty sparrow]

the roblox devs are so lazy they left graphics sliders on console and tablet versions

[elfin mural]

that's for the better

because even a ps5 will crash in certain games on roblox

just kinda nuts to think about

[misty sparrow]

can play cyberpunk, can't play roblox

[fresh timber]

Give me 5070

[fresh timber]

Dev problem

Ngl

Good console

[atomic mist]

Can’t stop me

[mortal grail]

Well be my guest then, not my fault you upset the mods

[atomic mist]

[craggy shoal]

( scream )

oh okay

( Android )

hmmmmm

( SKYPE )

[fresh timber]

Gulf of America

[craggy shoal]

not yet :(

[tranquil pebble]

gulf of golf

[fresh timber]

The second it’s offical I’m calling it gulf of America

[craggy shoal]

same

[lone mango]

Samsung

[craggy shoal]

I didn't name it

But yeah you're right

[lone mango]

Samnsung

[craggy shoal]

smasmug

[lone mango]

Balling rn

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813560442168541185/1335855733526499328/FB_IMG_1736559251863.webp?ex=67a1b019&is=67a05e99&hm=cf97391e19b1b1ab35f47c08683a2b9d1e2c4bcc7480187f430fbfb4ba7d37ba&

[ancient swift]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-noragami-yato-noragami-yato-gif-7002430486512960610

[velvet summit]

How I'm feeling

Oh the woes of being in my 20s in the 2020s

Wish I was born 10 years prior or 10 years later with how terrible the job market is

[upper estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/newegg-shuffle-rejection-gif-20909735

[velvet summit]

That is an interesting gif name

[hoary zodiac]

I'm in the lucky gen z bracket

Born too late to have the cheap housing

But also too late to be screwed over by covid

[atomic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/newegg-shuffle-rejection-gif-20909735

[hoary zodiac]

Name one european country

[random osprey]

europe

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6HqWCdk3s

based?

[wind quail]

Ummm

[sage sluice]

Lol trick question, the only country is the USA

[mortal grail]

@sage sluice I won

It was an argument but I macgyver'd the dual monitor mount and you'd never know it was done

You can't see the work unless you know where to look

[sage sluice]

Oh god

Lemme see this

[mortal grail]

No pic yet I haven't wired it all up yet

Only 1 monitor hooked up atm

[craggy shoal]

I can't live with only one monitor

I’m thankful that MacOS lets you connect to an iPad as a secondary display bruh (for when at work)

[devout forum]

I just found this gem about the 5080

• Normalising $1000+ GPU's
• In reality a 70 class GPU configuration
• Still only 16GB RAM when we had that for high end GPU's in 2020 (Yes 6800XT, 6900XT)
• Paper Launch (it's trickled out by Nvidia to create pseudo scarcity and desirability)

[frigid stag]

It’s not a 70 class, it’s just Moore’s law doesn’t apply anymore

[elfin mural]

If you look at relative cuda and perf tho

It is a 70 class by tradition

[frigid stag]

20% more performance

Moore’s law isn’t a thing anymore

It’s on the same node as 40 series no wonder it’s the same

[elfin mural]

Doesn't make it right when we had 7900XTX for 1k or less with 24gb vram

[mortal grail]

I was just about to say the both of you are wrong but this is the important part

This also isn't a case of Moore's law btw

[frigid stag]

You could also get a 3090 ti for 1k for a while

[elfin mural]

Hmm

[mortal grail]

The same node was on the roadmap for years

[sage sluice]

ive had a second monitor for one week now and i can safely say i never want to go back

[elfin mural]

That's fair

[mortal grail]

You type in Ada refresh into the search bar you'll see me talking about it forever ago

[elfin mural]

The node hasn't changed much

It's more like a small refresh for anything but 5090

[mortal grail]

Lol

I remember seeing the slides years ago

[elfin mural]

I think the worse thing we have to worry about is Nvidia normalizing scalping and low supply for the demand

[mortal grail]

But the annoying thing about this is if we use the past data for GPU trends, the 5080 would technically be a 60/Super/TI card

[elfin mural]

Paper launches are becoming the norm

[mortal grail]

It didn't beat the flagship

It's the only one to do this and yes it's mainly because it's hardly a change to the desktop arch

[sage sluice]

Blackwell? more like, Whitelava

because of the liquid metal

[mortal grail]

If they just let the cards draw whatever power then it'd have worked and appeared to be a reasonable upgrade for everyone

[elfin mural]

Remember as little as 2 days to finalize the board design

I think we'll see dead gpus later

[mortal grail]

Run them "overclocked" out the box

I don't think it really counts as an overclock if they're just pushed instead of made to run conservative

[elfin mural]

And revisions coming in the coming months

[mortal grail]

Ain't no way they don't

[sage sluice]

if only it was good to begin with

[mortal grail]

"5080 Super: Faster than a 4090"

[sage sluice]

they saw green and took it

[elfin mural]

ig we'll see ded gpus

[mortal grail]

"No A.I required"

[elfin mural]

cuz of rushed designs

[storm narwhal]

More AI frames

[sage sluice]

only 1600 dollars msrp

[elfin mural]

strix card being loud

[storm narwhal]

E(xtra)MFG

[elfin mural]

is so bad

a strix having noise issues

im disappointed by the quality

[sage sluice]

the less i buy, the more i save

[elfin mural]

but dlss 4 is genuinely good

the good that came out of nvidia so far

[mortal grail]

Man reading my old ada refresh messages

[sage sluice]

all it took was a lot of scumbag behavior

[mortal grail]

It's like watching myself age each line

I become more cynical

[storm narwhal]

The more you buy the more you save

[mortal grail]

💀

[elfin mural]

lol

[storm narwhal]

Trust in the capitalism, guys

[mortal grail]

And it's a shame cos overclocking reveals that they could've pulled it off

[sage sluice]

the only thing im buying from nvidia is their stock

[storm narwhal]

true actually

maybe i should buy some NV stock while they're down

[sage sluice]

would be a good bet

[elfin mural]

all i want is

[sage sluice]

worst case you break even

[storm narwhal]

Wait a few years then take a look

[elfin mural]

for nvidia to enable frame gen for any dx11/12 games

that smooth motion feature

[devout forum]

If you know what nGreedAI has been doing
You'd call it a 70 series card in performance

it's an utter and absolute scam

[frigid stag]

Doing what? Its on the same node as a 40 series. It’s either that or paying 1800 for a “real” 5080

If they moved node it would’ve increased the price 100%

Tsmc costs

[fresh timber]

Overclock it

Ez

[frigid stag]

Ye that’s the way

[devout forum]

Yeah if OC is how you get gains

Why not release them clocked higher?

[frigid stag]

Can’t do that without xoc’ing them

There’s limits

[devout forum]

Y'know like it was done for the last 3 generations

[frigid stag]

Either that or they have to release the “5080 ti” as the 5080

They probably want to wait for that one longer

[devout forum]

there is 100% going to be the case

And it'll be 1600 USD MSRP

It's pretty clear why EVGA left

nVidia wants to compete out it's own partners

[frigid stag]

40 series is weird, 2600mhz on a 4060 ti just to get gapped by a 3060 ti at like 1700mhz core just cause of the cut down vram bus and less cores

They seem xoc’d unless the architecture is somehow different that it needs higher clock speed

[devout forum]

nVidia 100% intends to monopolize GPUs at this point

and their AIB partners are effectively competitors at this point

[sage sluice]

1600 is exactly what im saying lmao

it reeks of a 1600 dollar card

[devout forum]

if we're lucky

[frigid stag]

It’s weird cause aib cards used to be maximum of like 80 bucks more than the FE

I guess they became more expensive to make after 30 series

[sage sluice]

everything has become more expensive

[devout forum]

could be 1700 because nGreedAI can literally charge whatever it wants and use their quasi-monopolistic supply control to ENSURE it will sell out

[frigid stag]

For 3080s there was like a 400 to 500 dollar price diff in models

[devout forum]

It's really funny how they're like "Oh no we cannot make enough" when they're very blatantly withholding chips for AI cards that sell at 800+% markups

[sage sluice]

if the 9070 isnt priced well im gonna be so bummed out

[devout forum]

expect roughly 650 MSRP

[frigid stag]

If you don’t need to upgrade why care about Radeon

[sage sluice]

600 would be golden

[devout forum]

for the XT

probs 550 for the standard

[sage sluice]

perf difference between the 2?

[devout forum]

Eeeeeehh

IIRC not a whole lot

[sage sluice]

im guessing its gonna be like a small uplift 7900xt + xtx scenario

[devout forum]

maybe like 10% ig

but they'll actually be affordable-ish

rumor has it they'll be roughly competitive with the 5080 in performance

[sage sluice]

affordable compared to the hellscape of the market now

[frigid stag]

Highly doubt that since it’s slower than an xtx

[devout forum]

maybe like 10% below the 5080 for 550-650

[frigid stag]

Probably like 7900 gre performance

Xoc’d gre

[devout forum]

"The information suggests the RX 9070 XT beating the RTX 4080 and the RX 9070 outperforming the RTX 4070 Ti."

[sage sluice]

im running a gre and would laugh if thats what it wound up as

it better be priced well

[frigid stag]

Just higher clocked gre

[devout forum]

so around the 7900 XT performance tier for 4070 pricing

[frigid stag]

XOC the card and sell it for more money

[unreal trail]

[velvet summit]

Born too late for cheap housing
Also born practically right smack dab at the right time to be screwed by covid

[sage sluice]

i cant wait to see what i was born to be screwed over by

[storm narwhal]

https://youtu.be/KEtb0punTHk?si=fpUVXTHMcvw9lzA6

He's back boys

[sage sluice]

i cant watch it im at school 😔

[storm narwhal]

Sadge

[sage sluice]

someone should be a saint and explain the basis fr

[storm narwhal]

Nvidia is pushing hardware accelerated software to be the industry standard

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/hong-kong-media-pcm-discovers-melted-cables-and-psu-failure-after-testing-rtx-5090d-5080#disqus_thread

[storm narwhal]

So you have to buy their top tier cards to keep your games looking good since all the computation is running on your GPU now

Instead of pre-baked solutions that would cost a lot less computation

[rancid juniper]

bro's new thumbnail

[storm narwhal]

And everyone is basically just following nvidias footsteps and doing the same

Effectively just bolstering NVIDIA

[fresh timber]

I’m employed, what does this mean

[storm narwhal]

Pay all of it to get a subpar gaming experience

[fresh timber]

Gotcha

[storm narwhal]

That is worse than the ps3/ps4 era

[fresh timber]

I go outside, what is this ltt drama that doesn’t matter if two adults learned to ignore others

[still sun]

Oooooo this looks good

[storm narwhal]

LTT shilling RT basically

[fresh timber]

Cool, people have opinions

[still sun]

Similar performance at half the price

[storm narwhal]

Misinforming the masses about RT and how it supposed to be mandatory now

Effectively giving nvidia full control over the entire industry

[fresh timber]

I mean.. don’t they already

Kek

[storm narwhal]

Since their own proprietary solution looks better than the competition since they're always leading

[fresh timber]

Rt is mandatory in Indiana jones, others will prob follow

[storm narwhal]

Cause no one else has vision

[sage sluice]

i remember when i thought fallout 4 was insanely realistic

[storm narwhal]

It was

[sage sluice]

not much has changed drastically since

[storm narwhal]

Still is technically yeah

Think about that

[still sun]

Its not gonna change tbh

[storm narwhal]

How does fallout 4 look almost as good and sometimes better?

Especially when in motion?

[still sun]

People are still gonna pay whatever they charge just to have the best

[sage sluice]

im simply just not going to spend stupid money on stupid games

need top of the line gpu for a subpar experience? welp i guess i dont need that game

if i really want to see it ill just watch markiplier or someone play it lmao

[storm narwhal]

Slightly better experience than last gen with the same issues if I'm more precise

[fresh timber]

I simply don’t buy games, yet somehow I have them

[storm narwhal]

Still worse than native rendering

[sage sluice]

🏴‍☠️

[fresh timber]

Allegations

[sage sluice]

the allegations are real ong

i also dont buy many games, yet somehow i have them

[fresh timber]

Frfr

[sage sluice]

indie games get 100% of my money upfront

[fresh timber]

I’ll buy games when they don’t cost $60

:))

$60 is alot

[sage sluice]

60 should not be the norm for glitchy messes

[storm narwhal]

Especially when indie games are better

[sage sluice]

a 60 dollar game is elden ring or baldurs gate

not 90% of the trash released nowadays

[fresh timber]

Eldon ring, not a bad game.. but I don’t have the cash

Spider man2, not bad game, but I don’t have the cash

[sage sluice]

and thats fine

[fresh timber]

If it was $20 I’d buy it

[sage sluice]

sometimes you just want a demo and pay later if you really enjoy it

[fresh timber]

Or you know, make it $20

Culture is not here for those who can afford it

[storm narwhal]

Might as well just make all games free at that point

[fresh timber]

Real

[storm narwhal]

I'll pay for a game if I like the demo

It's just that easy

[fresh timber]

Pay me to play your game

:))

[woven turret]

are red switches loud?

[velvet summit]

Red switches are generally the linear switches

They're as loud as you type

[woven turret]

was thinking about getting this

[velvet summit]

If you want something completely silent, you'll have to use membrane

[woven turret]

I want mechanical but not as loud as blue switches

[velvet summit]

But linear switches would probably be second place in the quiet scale

[woven turret]

does it still have that mechanical sound?

[velvet summit]

Browns are tactile but silent

If you want tactile but no click get some sort of silent tactile switch

[woven turret]

im fine with some sound but not too loud

[velvet summit]

It has the thock of plastic hitting plastic when you bottom out the switch

Similar to linear

[woven turret]

I have blue switches rn and if im typing something everyone in the house can hear me

[velvet summit]

Silent tactile might have a little bit more sound, but nowhere near clicky with their loud click

[woven turret]

Yea i hate clicky

[woven turret]

is that a good deal though?

150€ for mouse and keyboard?

[velvet summit]

Not really

[sage sluice]

not at all

itd be a good deal if they were good parts

but

[velvet summit]

Get a keychron instead

[sage sluice]

^

[woven turret]

hyperx is nice but quality not the best

[sage sluice]

especially for europe keychron is hard to beat

[woven turret]

and mouse?

[velvet summit]

Keychron also makes mice

[woven turret]

alright

[sage sluice]

logitech g305 or razer death adder

[woven turret]

Razer mamba had some issue if I remember correctly?

[velvet summit]

Razer has alot of products
Most bad but some good

Deathadder is good

[sage sluice]

yup

dont touch anything razer if it aint a mouse

[woven turret]

death adder is cheap

[sage sluice]

their headphones and keeb are top quality dog crap

[woven turret]

I wanted to get a razer headset but I got the hyperx cloud 2

[sage sluice]

9 times out of ten dont buy the rgb gamery stuff

it sucks

[woven turret]

the cloud 2 has no rgb

[sage sluice]

its still very gamery

[woven turret]

only lights it has is the 7.1 surround sound button light

[velvet summit]

HyperX cooked with the cloud lineup
Pretty much the only gaming headset that's worth the money

[woven turret]

it's alright though, sound and mic is good

[sage sluice]

really?

hm

[sage sluice]

if youre happy with it thats all that matters

[woven turret]

is the cloud 3 better? like significantly?

[sage sluice]

im picky, only headset i run is sennheiser pc38x

[woven turret]

a piece of it kind of broke off, I put it back with tape

[woven turret]

sennheiser is good but way out of my budget

[sage sluice]

😭

[woven turret]

and I want a headset for everything, gaming, music and such

[sage sluice]

you can get the pc37x for like 80 bucks and its still really good

not as good for general use as the 38x imo but

[woven turret]

I had a lioncast headset and it was dogpoop

[sweet phoenix]

just dont buy astros

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[sweet phoenix]

im a very sad owner of astra a40s

[sage sluice]

astro is ass

[woven turret]

so is lioncast

[sage sluice]

wouldnt recommend it over other options

[sweet phoenix]

i cant wait to buy nice headphones

these were supposed to be

[sweet phoenix]

SO uncomfortable

horrible directional audio

[woven turret]

cant relate

[sage sluice]

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx

[woven turret]

I got about 36 minutes left of work for today and I'm on the pooping throne rn

[sage sluice]

im a huge fan of the original 600s

[young matrix]

Koss porta pros

Philips shp9500

[velvet summit]

Shame that massdrop is only really worth it in the americas.... And I feel like it might get affected by the tariffs since most of the stuff they sell aren't made in America

[young matrix]

Koss ksc75

[sage sluice]

https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-XS-Headphones-Audiophiles-Studio-Black/dp/B09PH1N67T?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A2763VQ7SN6URD

[young matrix]

The koss stuff on drop has microphones the ones on Amazon dont

[sage sluice]

these are great too

[young matrix]

The many budget iems

[sage sluice]

hell yeah man

[proud jackal]

[sage sluice]

theyre more of a fun headphone than a reference headphone honestly

got more of a stylized tuning

[proud jackal]

they are superaccurate audiowise, to me

[sage sluice]

oh theyre extremely accurate, im just saying by reference standards

the planar carries

[sinful blade]

There any cheap/decent 1TB drives that aren’t nvme I can use to store games

[sage sluice]

hdd?

or just sata

[sinful blade]

Either

My mobo has ports for both I think

[sage sluice]

check first lol

[sinful blade]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-K-rev-10#kf

[pliant berry]

wdym, sata is for both hdd and ssd

[sinful blade]

That’s what I meant

[sage sluice]

i thought non sata hdd used a different port?

pata or whatever its called

[pliant berry]

well the main 2 interfaces are sata and sas but that's for servers

prices always fluctuate with drives so I would always check #tech-deals or wherever if you are looking for a decent buy. most 1tb ssds are in the ~80usd range. like samsung 870 or 860 evo, crucial mx500, etc

[sage sluice]

why are sata ssds so pricey

[frigid stag]

fr. all the good ones are expensive

[worn wave]

I assume this is bc your nvme slots are all full?

[sage sluice]

likely

otherwise i dont see the point opting for it

[frigid stag]

mines not even full

nvmes just dont work on my motherboard, it gets wonky

[sage sluice]

weird

[worn wave]

For 2.5" sata I'd probably look for used drives

[sage sluice]

shouldnt that be under warranty?

[pliant berry]

yeah nvmes have actually gotten cheaper if you look out for sales

[frigid stag]

well it should but its a “feature” apparently

Its common on that board

everyone has that issue

[sage sluice]

what 💀

[worn wave]

Samsung 860 Evo or crucial mx500 are both good

[worn wave]

They're cheaper even without sales at this point

[sage sluice]

mx500 would be the better choice imo

[frigid stag]

well i narrowed it down to 2 things. nvme doesnt work when theres sata installed

[sage sluice]

how many slots of each?

[frigid stag]

theres 2 nvmes iirc. neither work when theres sata is what i narrowed it down to

[pliant berry]

some boards are specific to the port. So say if you use sata port 6 it will disable nvme port 2

[frigid stag]

i got what i paid for

[worn wave]

ASRock makes pretty good boards in my experience

@frigid stag have you RMA'd?

[worn wave]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226571876874

[frigid stag]

never rmad

Ive had this thing for a while now its a bit too late for rma

plus its apparently common from just searching reddit people have the same issue. its normal on this board

[sage sluice]

have you checked both nvme ports dont work when sata is connected?

[frigid stag]

yeah tried both

[sage sluice]

rip

[frigid stag]

it would prolly work if i had nvme only

[sage sluice]

id think so

regardless you have the choice for nvme down the road

[frigid stag]

its like one of the first gen boards to have nvme so its not that surprising

[sage sluice]

lol fair

[pliant berry]

that would be documented in the manual so you can double check exactly how that board behaves

if you don't need speed you can always do a hdd as well. problem is I wouldn't do a 1tb hdd since there are so many refurb options for 8tb hdds around 80usd or so

[worn wave]

Tlc is fine, I'd just stay away from qlc

[pliant berry]

oh

[dusk knot]

Bonkers

[sinful blade]

At that point I’d get an nvme

[sinful blade]

No, it would just be cheaper

I’d hope

[worn wave]

^ @sinful blade

[sweet phoenix]

wait

try using diff sata cables

well

diff slot on the mobo

my old b550 disabled an nvme slot when a specific sata slot was in use

well, when one of 2 specific sata slots were in use

the other 2 didnt affect nvmes

what board is it?

pro4?

[sinful blade]

@worn wave

[sage sluice]

nvme is def cheaper id say

[sweet phoenix]

hm

is it just the three sata slots on there?

[worn wave]

Yes, I saw that, I was showing that I did ask why you wanted sata. Anyways your best bet is a used/new nvme

[sage sluice]

hdd isnt worth it unless you just need bulk storage you arent gonna really touch

[sinful blade]

Sadge

[worn wave]

Cheaping out on an nvme is less bad than cheaping out on a SATA ssd

[sinful blade]

I miss my seagate SSD:(

[sage sluice]

used ssds arent worth the risk imo

[sweet phoenix]

is it plugged in on the middle right side of the mobo?

[worn wave]

Less risky than a used hard drive lol

Lotta games these days are much better off on an ssd

[sage sluice]

used storage in general, i just dont like risking my files

[sinful blade]

I have a 500gb nvme (spatium)

[worn wave]

This is just game storage. Plus ssds are hard to mess up

Not even that but yeah

Yes

[sage sluice]

then its just a personal feeling, i wouldnt use used storage personally

[sinful blade]

I’ll just have to find someone selling nvmes them

[sage sluice]

thats what im referring to ye

idc if its undamaged, its still gonna have some age

[sweet phoenix]

it has 6 sata slots, try one of the ones elsewhere (if you feel like it) just to see if those specific slots disable the nvme

[worn wave]

Most 1tb drives are *rated to like 600tbw...?

[sage sluice]

ratwdnto

[worn wave]

Sata without dram kinda sucks though

[sage sluice]

again, its a personal thing, id rather just have a full life ssd

under warranty

[fresh timber]

i just realised

[sage sluice]

he just realized

[fresh timber]

i read my schools student handbook, no rules aginst reinstlaling windows on the computers

no rules aginst using a bootable usb

[sinful blade]

Hmmmm

[fresh timber]

i know the seller

buy form attack computers

best seller

[sage sluice]

not bad

if only food was that cheap LMAO

[fresh timber]

thats pretty good

[sage sluice]

^

[fresh timber]

$10 per tb

great

[worn wave]

Gaming on hdd can be painful depending on the game just fyi

[sage sluice]

hdd isnt really as fit for most use-cases of higher end rigs imo

its got some more niche use but

[frigid stag]

It’s for mass storage usually

[sinful blade]

Older games?

[sage sluice]

yeah

and unless you really need that mass storage and it isnt in active use

nvme ssd is just better

[sinful blade]

I usually just have d2, TTW, and an extra game or two on my nvme, and the rest id stick on the HDD

[sage sluice]

its up to you

think of it like this, an ssd is your wardrobe, and an hdd is your vault

its painful to open a vault everyday

[sinful blade]

I’ll grab it, keep some extra games on it, and grab another 512gb nvme for like $20

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZsVTzP

List of upgrades so far

What’s planned***

[worn wave]

Personally I wouldn't get another 500gb nvme and have your slots full

I'd save for a 1tb, like $50

[sinful blade]

Eventually I’ll upgrade the cpu to an 5800x3d,

[sinful blade]

I don’t download a ton
So it’s fine for me for now
Plus I’ll give it to the wife when upgrading

[worn wave]

Ok yeah if you have another use for it that's reasonable

[sinful blade]

My biggest game by far is d2 at 100gb

Most of my games are sub 30gb

[pliant berry]

not sure I cant read the model in that pic, but most optane modules were very low capacity. like around the 16-64gb range

yeah it was always stupid expensive

[worn wave]

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/product-specifications/ssd-520-specification.pdf

MLC

[sage sluice]

whats the point of optane

just a faster technology or?

https://us-store.msi.com/SPATIUM-M461-2TB

[sage sluice]

^

Get that and you wont need new storage for a while

[sinful blade]

I don’t have the money yet

I hope if that’s still up, I can get it

[velvet summit]

orignally? or currently?

originally it was meant to be like a drive cache back when most systems had hdd boot drives

[sinful blade]

Question
So my MSI mag force m100a has no argb controller
But the m100r does.

Can I just use any argb controller? Or do I have to get the specific one for the m100r?

I don’t usually mess around with hubs that don’t come with stuff

[velvet summit]

and somewhat recently intel tried to make optane into a "slower" ram for cheaper than ram

[velvet summit]

if i had to guess, any standard argb controller should work, if the argb works on the mobo header

unless msi did something completely proprietary which also is possible

[sinful blade]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-K-rev-10

[velvet summit]

wow that's one of the most barebone boards i've seen in a while lmao

[sinful blade]

Yeeeeeah
It’s good enough though

I’ve looked and seen that some controllers can be plugged into the usb slots

And I don’t use any slots atm outside of my m&k

[velvet summit]

tbh
i'd recommend using those controllers that dont connect to the pc so you dont have to use a rgb software which just wastes resources

[sinful blade]

I’m currently using OpenRGB for my ram

[velvet summit]

oh

do you know if openrgb supports the msi rgb stuff

[sinful blade]

Msi has their mystic light software

These are supported by OpenRGB

[velvet summit]

honestly

considering msi didnt include a controller for the rgb, i think it's safe to assume they arent doing anything proprietary that wont work on any other rgb hub

so i think there's a good chance that most hubs should work

[sinful blade]

Would you be able to find the cheapest hub that might work?

Thermalright has one for $13

[velvet summit]

not sure tbh
just make sure it's supported by openrgb or windows dl or whatever so you dont have to have multiple software

[sinful blade]

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-Universal-Fan-Controller-PH-PWHUB_02/dp/B07NHQRCRM/

[velvet summit]

this is just a fan hub

[sinful blade]

Oof

[light nexus]

hey guys! is there any support that i can get from newegg here? they're being unresponsive on emails

[dusk knot]

@digital thunder @light nexus

[light nexus]

is it by dms?

[dusk knot]

Yes

[light nexus]

thanks btw :)

[dusk knot]

You're welcome

[tranquil pebble]

kernel update, nice

6.12.10 to 6.13.1

[spring spire]

is there any way to actually chat with support, im waiting on web for hours

[spring spire]

oh nice, sorry didnt see

[dusk knot]

[spring spire]

do you know what timezone he operates at?

or which are support hours

[dusk knot]

Most likely Pacific standard time

[tranquil pebble]

You know what really annoys me? When people post "google it" or similar on a forum... then years later that post ends up being at the top of SERPs

[dusk knot]

Ha

O-oh...crap

[sinful blade]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Integrated-ARGB-10-Port-Controller/dp/B09CH13K2M?

[velvet summit]

looks tacky due to the case lmfao but it should work

i have verified that the case uses 5v argb in the manual

[sinful blade]

Good

[dusk knot]

@mortal grail $900 for a 4090....

[fresh timber]

if 5080 was $800

would it be value

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gNJH8Q

This should be it

[sage sluice]

wait what

where lmao

[dusk knot]

Offerup

I'm jumping on it

[sage sluice]

absolutely

damn good deal

[dusk knot]

If I get it ....

[sage sluice]

resell

instantly

😭

[dusk knot]

To get a 5090?

[sage sluice]

nah

to buy a car

💀

or anything

money thats better anywhere else

[dusk knot]

Oh

My 3080ti needs an upgrade ):

[lone mango]

We need 14 to come out for ntsync

[rancid juniper]

what

https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-5090-reportedly-works-with-3x-8-pin-power-adapters-but-stays-limited-to-450w

[stiff bear]

Newegg shipped my bundle's PSU but not the 5080 😭💀

[velvet summit]

deploying bomb

[rancid juniper]

God forbid but imagine some random shipping worker saw that sweet 5080 box and went home with it

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-power-supply-bomb-gn-gif-22830454

[rancid juniper]

GIGGLEBOMB PLANTED

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/o-chacal-chacal-rpg-strange-odyssey-rpg-zapionne-rpg-the-jackal-gif-742730318090503174

[rancid juniper]

Rolox

[dusk knot]

I still have that PSU unopened

[rancid juniper]

Sell it

[dusk knot]

For $50 lol

[rancid juniper]

Still money

[pliant berry]

or use for another pc

[fresh timber]

Money

[tranquil pebble]

Anyone know how to get rid of this?

[pliant berry]

touhou

[tranquil pebble]

clearing cache does not fix it

[pliant berry]

have you tried reinstalling?

[dusk knot]

Will sell instead

[pliant berry]

sad

[tranquil pebble]

yes, does not fix

The Discord package itself is broken

[pliant berry]

have you tried deleting the squirrel folder before installing again?

[tranquil pebble]

idk what that is

[dusk knot]

Hmm

Found a 4080 for 600

Fe.

[pliant berry]

I don't remember why I call it squirrel xD there is an appdata folder that persists after uninstalls. sometimes you have to delete the entire folder to ensure no files remain from previous versions

[tranquil pebble]

well, rip... nothing I can do except use flatpak version

[pliant berry]

oh ur on linux

[tranquil pebble]

yeah, because when things work they work really well... at the cost of having bumps like these sometimes

[pliant berry]

true

as long as you are used to it it's not too difficult to troubleshoot things in linux. at least it's much more straight forward than windows

[tranquil pebble]

logging is much more standardized in Linux from what I have seen

on Windows the logging detail varies wildly

[pliant berry]

yeah well windows logging is pretty much "help there is a problem"

and unless you are good with the softwares for analyzing errors good luck

[tranquil pebble]

debuggers yeah

I had to use those a few times

[pliant berry]

I had to use a process tracer the other day because I had a file error somewhere and there was literally no documentation on what was happening or how the app works

[tranquil pebble]

also love how in Linux a shortcut and a symlink are the same thing

[pliant berry]

so I tried printing something

[tranquil pebble]

so if I have two apps that share the same data set, I can just point one to the other's data folder

[pliant berry]

ye

[tranquil pebble]

probably a way to do it on Windows too, but it likely isnt as nice

[pliant berry]

umm I think there is but not sure

[tranquil pebble]

mklink command

[pliant berry]

only problem I had with linux recent is dns resolvers. for some reason I occasionally have a system where the dns breaks on restart. not really sure why but restarting the service usually works.

[tranquil pebble]

did you check logs?

the point of failure should be made clear by that

[pliant berry]

I have fixed it in the past, can't remember what it was. but the system it more recently happened on I am unfamiliar with it's networking service so I have to look into it

I think there is some kind of bug with the resolv.conf

[sage sluice]

I like to blow up the model a bit so i can smooth out the print lines manually

Plus helps a model stay intact

[pliant berry]

I wanted to try out painting 3d prints. the problem with this one though is there are way too many supports and I can't even rip them off lol

[sage sluice]

Yeah supports are difficult to get right lmao

[pliant berry]

I have another one printing now attempting to fix but it has really steep overhangs so we will see

[sage sluice]

Again, making the model a smidgen bigger so you can grind down the surface a bit makes it look way better imo when painting

[pliant berry]

true, but just out of curiousity how would you go about sanding down the surface with a model that has some tight gaps. even when it is blown up?

Yeah those overhangs are not perfect but honestly a lot better than I was expecting with basically no support

[velvet summit]

i feel like the old vw beetle would be like the easiest car to drive on the highway without needing cruise control because you can only go around 100 with the pedal to the floor

[rancid juniper]

yo is that zelda?

[proud jackal]

It's feiren

You uncultured swinr

Swine

Sorry

That was mean

[pliant berry]

yeah it's frieren xd

[sage sluice]

Wrap sandpaper around a thin stick or popsicle stick

[pliant berry]

oh

[sage sluice]

Make it as tight as possible

And you can get a bit more force with it

Grinding gaps takes time

Dont rush lol

You can use straight sandpaper too

But it takes a while

Theres gonna be gaps you wont be able to reach

You can kinda try and soften them with a toothpick but

Depends on what you use to print really

[sinful blade]

@sweet phoenix https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gNJH8Q
not sure if you’ve seen

[sweet phoenix]

Nice build

[pliant berry]

Yeah I use PLA rn which it apparently not very good for sanding

[sinful blade]

Until I get a new mobo, I’ll have the 1TB HDD and extra 512gb

I’ll sell those both for a new 1tb nvme then

[sweet phoenix]

512gb/1tb makes sense

I'd just throw stationary files and smaller/less demanding games on the hdd and call it a day

[sinful blade]

I currently have a 500gb
So I will have 2 tb

[sinful blade]

That’s my exact plan

[loud trail]

just had a 5080 in my cart went to checkout and its sold out sweet..

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

average 50 series experience

better luck next time sorry

[loud trail]

is it gonna stay at this price or go up

[velvet summit]

you were this close to being bricked

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[rancid juniper]

probably going up due to high demand

[loud trail]

by how much

[rancid juniper]

i dunno

just expect prices to be subpar

[loud trail]

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/gigabyte-windforce-gv-n5080wf3oc-16gd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-16gb-gddr7/p/N82E16814932754 like this 1

sweet but its frowned upon to use a bot

[rancid juniper]

theres no way you're getting it in MSRP

[sinful blade]

Honestly just go for a 4080 super still

[loud trail]

wdym

[sweet phoenix]

^^ used 4080

10% difference if not less

[sinful blade]

Little reason to use a 5080 at the moment

[sweet phoenix]

Saves a few hundred dollars

[rancid juniper]

You're gonna fight against bots and scalpers

no chance

[sweet phoenix]

And you don't have to fight for stock

[rigid sinew]

have you guys watched that movie pixels ?

[sweet phoenix]

I haven't heard of it

[sinful blade]

@sweet phoenix any opinion on the gamemax defender case?

[sweet phoenix]

Could you link it?

[loud trail]

no point in getting it off this website then

[sweet phoenix]

Is that the $52 one?

It's solid, i recommend it for budget builds but the extra for Sama 3509 gives you full atx and I believe better fans but I'm not certain

[proud jackal]

@rigid sinew pls reserve 5090 astral for me to buy pls pls

[rancid juniper]

and maybe others, its the same ordeal

[sweet phoenix]

Ill reserve one for you its ok

[proud jackal]

[loud trail]

so just dont even get one sweet

[proud jackal]

Ty bacca

[sweet phoenix]

It'll just cost your 4090

[rancid juniper]

yep, alot of people facing the same issue

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

inventory is REALLY limited

[sweet phoenix]

What gpu do you have?

50 series is a flop

[loud trail]

3060

[rancid juniper]

12gb?

[sweet phoenix]

Performance increases are negligible and stock will be terrible for a while

[loud trail]

mhm

[rancid juniper]

mmm id say keep it a bit longer

its not a terrible card

[loud trail]

ive had it for years im not doing that

[sweet phoenix]

If you need an upgrade right now, and want specifically nvidia, used 4080 is the best suggestion I have

[rancid juniper]

💀

[loud trail]

💀

[rancid juniper]

Then used RTX 4080 or 7900XT/XTX

[sweet phoenix]

Oof 7900xt/xtx pricing sucks now too

Well

Mostly

Cheapest 7900xt is $700 xtx is $980

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bird-legs-gif-7418853116988366584

market so garbage

[sweet phoenix]

Yep

Proof neither company is your friend

[lone mango]

I saw a xt for 550 on ebay

Someone got happy that day seeing that

[sweet phoenix]

The fact that 7800xt is the highest end new gpu I'm willing to suggest right now says something

[lone mango]

Well they are probably stocking less because rdna 4

[rancid juniper]

i can sell it for a price premium and someone would buy it

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah stock has been running dry

They planned for a january/Feb launch

Delaying it by months screwed consumers

Now they're running out of stock and are still months away from launch

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-22246136

[sweet phoenix]

So nvidia can overcharge for their cards ($650 $850 4070 ti super $1100 4080 super) without competition

Not to mention 40 series stock too

[rancid juniper]

wow...

[sweet phoenix]

Oh 4070s has normalized

Back to $600-610

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[sweet phoenix]

Still overpriced lol

[rancid juniper]

could be worse bro

😂

[sweet phoenix]

I'm blind

[rancid juniper]

lel

[lone mango]

Oh right its gonna come late march

So almost 2 months from now

[dusk knot]

@sweet phoenix 3080ti to 4080 at 1440?

[sweet phoenix]

I wouldnt bother

It's like a 25% increase?

[dusk knot]

Hm

[sweet phoenix]

It's like 7900 gre to 7900xtx

I really hope next generation is closer to 30 series in market segmentation and value

[dusk knot]

I'll wait

Sigh ...

I really want an upgrade right about now

[sweet phoenix]

3080 at $700 was an actual increase over the 2080 ti at $1000

[dusk knot]

Found a 4080 for $600

[sweet phoenix]

Oh

$600 hell yes

Your card can sell for $400-500

[dusk knot]

Hm

[sweet phoenix]

And you then have a 4080 to resell later lol

Fully a win as long as it's not a poor financial choice

[dusk knot]

I also found a 4090 for $900... waiting for the seller....

[sweet phoenix]

Also with tarrifs impending, it's not exactly a bad time to upgrade lol. Who knows when your next chance will be

[sweet phoenix]

Mind dming me it so I can check their profile? I don't even have $900 to spend so i won't be sniping it from you lmao

[dusk knot]

It's fine. . Its on offerup

[sweet phoenix]

Ahh

[lone mango]

Fast travels to florida

[sweet phoenix]

Offer up, scam central lol. Just be careful

[worn wave]

$600 4080 kinda rings the scam alert bell for me

[sweet phoenix]

$900 4090 moreso to me

[worn wave]

Oh that too lol

[lone mango]

Who knows maybe blud wants to get rid of it

[sweet phoenix]

$600 4080 is def too good to be true territory too

[lone mango]

Maybe has a 50 series now

[sweet phoenix]

But its also that area of maybe

[dusk knot]

Hm

[sweet phoenix]

Just get videos of it working, or make sure you can test it

[dusk knot]

Right right

[rancid juniper]

its all fun and games till you see the seller with (0)

[sweet phoenix]

What?

The 2080 loses to the 3070 anytime it isn't vram limited

3060 ti~= 2080 super

$700 to a $400 card for the same perf was a pretty nice improvement

Bruh

Aight man

[rancid juniper]

my igpu outperforms all of that

[sweet phoenix]

I missed the "my"

[rancid juniper]

smh

[sweet phoenix]

I'm the idiot here

Lmao mb

I read this as all 2080 tis beat all 3080 10gb

[frigid stag]

You could shunt mod it if nothing else gets you the max performance but I wouldn’t

[sweet phoenix]

I haven't benched my 2080 ti fully yet

It's got a 2070 xc3 cooler on it and I'm minorly worried about temps

I run it at 75-80% pl with a custom fan curve, +105 core +400mhz mem

Haven't bothered pushing past that

My 3060 ti i got to top 100 on timespy but the run was invalid bc of system info version and I'm still coping over it

104% pl +195 core +1175 mem

Golden bin 3060 ti i just wish it had 2 8 pins instead of 1

[opaque sedge]

bruh are they getting high?!?!

[sweet phoenix]

Yes

Wait

Could be hookas for tobacco

[opaque sedge]

nah one of them just said "was the sky always this blue"

def getting high

😭

[sweet phoenix]

Lmao

[opaque sedge]

square enix adapting to their american audience now that grass is legal in places

[sweet phoenix]

Probably shouldn't say that one now that I think abt it

[rancid juniper]

bro is on another level

[opaque sedge]

their town literally screams stoner now that i took a closer look

[rancid juniper]

yea i see lots of stone

😂

[dusk knot]

😳

[nocturne flicker]

Ah yes, RPG Maker VX Ace is free. The most deal of all time on Steam

[rigid sinew]

??

[rigid sinew]

adam sandler its soo funny hehe

[kind verge]

what is this blasphemy

[sweet phoenix]

Gross

[icy ore]

Ew

[sweet phoenix]

7800xt should be the same price lmao

[icy ore]

5090 should be $1000

[kind verge]

lol wtf are italy prices

[lone mango]

6750 xt for 325 at micro center

Theres a 7700 xt for 400

Hmm

[sweet phoenix]

I'd take the 7700xt out of the two

Could see if there's a 6800

[lone mango]

I typed 7800 xt and everything else besides that came up

[opaque sedge]

even tho they're stoners they seem like nice folks cuz it seems like they built this wheelchair accessible ramp for this old guy since he comes up here to do some birdwatching

[fresh timber]

7700xt av1 encoder

6800 more cram

[lone mango]

Oh I get it because the 6800 is a 7700 xt with more vram

[frigid stag]

Have I been spoiled by ultra settings or does that look like low settings 💀

[fresh timber]

Yuh

[lone mango]

True but it has a hardware bug where it makes a black border around the screen

[woven turret]

got mine for a tad bit less

[lone mango]

If you record 1080p itll be 1088p

But it doesn’t really matter that much for me because I can just zoom the video in davinci

Idk maybe just wait for rdna 4 i dont really care to upgrade I just like seeing what micro center has

Reminds me of fry’s

[rancid juniper]

NEW BATTLEFIELD 7 FOOTAGE (Pre-Alpha)

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

Cant wait for it to flop

Always skeptical of games nowadays

[rancid juniper]

EA using most of its workforce to create the next battlefield is wild

[dusk knot]

Buy it

[fresh timber]

What about 1440p

[lone mango]

Not sure

[north crescent]

Buy and sell for 32k

[dusk knot]

Even better

[lone mango]

Thats a cop bruh

[dusk knot]

I would sell it for $5090

[lone mango]

[frigid stag]

I can pre order my 5080 finally

But it’ll arrive in March

[dusk knot]

Which AIB?

[frigid stag]

Zotac

I’m half way between just pre ordering or waiting for some fe restock

I gotta make my own bot cause I don’t trust these ones with my credit card

[icy ore]

Buttfield

[dusk knot]

Mmm ...5080

[worn wave]

Don't disrespect BF4 like that

[tranquil pebble]

What's the best way of dealing with a duplicate install of the same package? I had a bug involving Discord and AUR.

[opaque sedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/YtFFZlGpii

[rancid juniper]

lmao?

[dusk knot]

There's no RT

🤢

[rancid juniper]

There is RT in this game but I turned it off

[dusk knot]

smh

[icy ore]

[rigid sinew]

i go to florida tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dusk knot]

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[ancient swift]

Florida Stinky

Why would you wanna go to the Ohio of the South

[deep parcel]

florida cool to visit, terrible place to live in

[icy ore]

Oooo what part

[ancient swift]

Fair

[rigid sinew]

Orlando !

I'll be at the megacon event

[proud jackal]

[icy ore]

Ooooo

Disney too?

[rigid sinew]

yesss we are gonna be at disney for 1 day before we come back !

[icy ore]

Weeeeeee

Epcot?

so many questions sorry

[rigid sinew]

YERRR drinking aroudn the world

[icy ore]

YESSIRRRRRRR

GET THE TURKEY LEG TOO

[nocturne flicker]

I prefer Apricots

[rigid sinew]

im gonna be eating food everywhere

i used to love turkeylegs but they are just so dry now

[icy ore]

yeah I feel, the one we got was fantastic though. Very juicy

At least it won’t be scalding hot, but still 80°s

It was literally like 99° when my wife and I went

We were miserable

The feels like was 107°

[rigid sinew]

ive been to disneyworld once

i have naturally curly hair, i legit cannot do my hair or it will frizz soooo bad

[icy ore]

same, we went for one day because I’d never been. So we chose Epcot. Then that day we were supposed to watch one of the rockets that I work on launch but unfortunately it got delayed so missed it

[rigid sinew]

plus it said on the weather app that its gonna be 80's and rain first day we are there

[icy ore]

Are you going just for fun or a Newegg event?

[lone mango]

Sometimes rainy days be chill tho

[icy ore]

It rains a lot down there

[rigid sinew]

to disney, for fun !

i havent been to disney (i live like 10 minutes from disneyland) since like 2021 , i was supposed to go last sunday but i had my tattoo appt and it started raining 😦

[icy ore]

Oop

I lived in Destin for a few years back in the day

And we still never went to Disney lol

[rigid sinew]

destin ? where is that at 😮

[icy ore]

North Florida near PCB

Also near Tallahassee

[rigid sinew]

ooh i wanna go to tallahassee !

just cause it sounds fun to say

[icy ore]

Destin’s beaches are gorgeous