#general-chat

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mortal grail
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*at msrp

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☠️☠️☠️☠️

rancid juniper
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never happening

mortal grail
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Ikr

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Nvidiapilled

dusk knot
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Pc gaming is done. Return to board games

mortal grail
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JP you need a vacation

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Lol

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Go fly to tahiti for a week

dusk knot
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Brazil

mortal grail
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Tahiti is fine

dusk knot
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Too late

mortal grail
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Ah welp

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Good luck

sage sluice
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Whats the fps cap on cs2?

mortal grail
dusk knot
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Bought a ticket last night lol

mortal grail
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Whatever you do, don't get in unmarked taxis dude

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LMFAO

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Pink taxis also sus

dusk knot
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Don’t worry. I have many contacts down there

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They know what I should avoid

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If I die. I die

mortal grail
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Here lies JP

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He's in a better place now

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With all the frame gen he ever wanted

dusk knot
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🙏

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Gf searching mode activated

rancid juniper
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Rizz mode: INACTIVE

dusk knot
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Rizz mode: a work in progress

rancid juniper
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😂

dusk knot
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A real shame I can’t really bring my camera

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I wouldn’t want to get robbed

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One of my friends down there told me soo. Rip photography channel

icy ore
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5080 kinda disappointing

mortal grail
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4080 Ti*

proud jackal
fresh timber
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If you can get it at Msrp

proud jackal
fresh timber
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Go find a girlfriend in Taiwan

proud jackal
dusk knot
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My pc isn’t enough 😆

dusk knot
fresh timber
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in taiwan the girls come to you

dusk knot
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Also the tickets would be insane

dusk knot
fresh timber
lone mango
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5080

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The 4080 super duper

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Its what the 4080 super should have been

fresh timber
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lord give me a 7900xt or 4080

devout forum
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Unironically I hope that even what little 5080 stock exists remains unsold

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The 5080 is an insult at the price it is

fresh timber
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its the same msrp as the xtx, and 4080 s

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less msrp than the 4080

mortal grail
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It's all gonna sell out

misty sparrow
lone mango
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They finally released the 4080ti

fresh timber
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frfr

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if they didnt hype it up and just stright up said its a 40 series refresh we wouldnt be mad

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and good prices

devout forum
fresh timber
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5090

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i cant wait to see how fast people make the vram on it too little

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an ai model prob

dusk knot
lone mango
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Just dont buy it

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You probably dont need to upgrade

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I get urges to buy new stuff but I dont give in

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Because at the end of the day, its not needed

lone mango
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The h800 has 80g of hbm3

fresh timber
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I need new gpu

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240hz

lone mango
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Well the full one has that much

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The cut down pcie one has 80g of hbm2e

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2tb/s bandwidth while the sxm has 3.5 tb/s

devout forum
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And prosper

lone mango
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I wonder what xtx is going for rn

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I remember seeing heavy discounts months ago

devout forum
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XTX is bad for me cuz blasting power

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4080/4080S has the power efficiency and RT

mortal grail
devout forum
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Though yes the XTX is technically cheaper

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But not by a whole lot

dusk knot
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5090 is the 4090ti

devout forum
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50 bucks difference doesn't feel quite worth it for the power usage and RT difference

lone mango
devout forum
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Uh

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XTX regularly goes to like 400

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IIRC

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It spikes lime crazy

lone mango
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Bro my micro center doesn’t have any 4080s in stock androidjoy androidjoy androidjoy

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People done snatched those up

fresh timber
chrome portal
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Is this a relevant switch?

devout forum
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I'll have to grab used too

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But that's fine

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I can actually afford a used 4080

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Used 4090 starts at like 175% of the 4080s

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But like

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You can get the cheapest used 4090 for roughly MSRP

fresh timber
devout forum
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Yeah I have no AC either

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And my room is both tiny as well as facing east

fresh timber
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we have a ac.. its just in the living room

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😭

devout forum
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So both for power and heat concerns I have to be strategic

fresh timber
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one summer my my mom complained that my GAMING laptop was making the ac kick on too long making her room cold

lone mango
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True

devout forum
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160 on a 9800X3D and 280-320 on a 4080 is right in that threshold that MIGHT still be bearable

fresh timber
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my options are looking, used 7900xt, 4080, or 5070ti kek~4

devout forum
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Another 90 watts or so of heat might still be okay-ish

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Though

fresh timber
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ima just get a fan to exhast the hot air in my room to somewhere els, maybe out my window?

devout forum
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More like 140 with the CPU power bump

fresh timber
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you think that would work

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hot air from room, going to hot air outside

devout forum
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Might
But it'd have to be a big fan

fresh timber
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a window fan

devout forum
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I'm actually gonna solve my heat issues different

fresh timber
devout forum
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By upgrading my

Keyboard

fresh timber
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wow

devout forum
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Because you see
My current keyboard is loud as heck
So my stepdad gets mega annoyed and complain

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So he always just arbitrarily shuts my door on me

fresh timber
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ima try the window fan first, if that doesnt work ima grab a fan and exhast the air out my room to the living room kek~4 .. now my room gets warm

devout forum
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Trapping the hot air inside

fresh timber
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real

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i wish my asppartment had atleast air circulation man

devout forum
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So if I build a quiet keyboard

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I can keep my door open and let slightly cooler air into my room as well as the hot air out to the rest of the house

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K10 Pro with reds might do the trick

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Or failing that K Pro Silent Browns

fresh timber
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they closed my door alot last summer

devout forum
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I'm going to start complaining if he keeps shutting my door

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Anyhow

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That's my solution

fresh timber
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i should have a bacbook pro by then

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if i get too hot ill just go on mac

devout forum
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Get the keyboard to be quiet and open my door to let air move

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Might help a little

craggy shoal
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I got a Mac Mini for that purpose. Super low powered compared to my desktop

devout forum
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But it does get fairly stuffy for me when things are happening

fresh timber
devout forum
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I'm just gonna keep it simple

fresh timber
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having my pc asharing keyboard and mouse, and monitors while keeping my monitors full capabilitys.. too hard

craggy shoal
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I have like three computers at my desk lol

devout forum
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Desktop for home
2in1 laptop with eGPU for work

fresh timber
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i need to do 1440p 240hz on one display, 1080p 165hz another

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and they only work with displayport at full speed

devout forum
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Chuck my keeb, mouse and a controller in my bag and take them with me

proud jackal
devout forum
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That's honestly a big thing with the K10

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Can work BT, 2.4ghz and wired

proud jackal
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4090 for ultimate ray tracing

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4k60

devout forum
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So I can just disconnect the cord and use it BT while at work

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Or just not at all and mess around with a controller

dusk knot
proud jackal
dusk knot
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What about 3080ti

craggy shoal
dusk knot
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Less than 60 at 1440p on medium ….bummer

craggy shoal
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my gf's old PC could run that

fresh timber
mortal grail
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Bro got the grease filter

dusk knot
fresh timber
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Faulty

proud jackal
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I need to sell my ps5

fresh timber
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ima play spiderman on my pc

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ima really try to run raytracing 60fps

misty sparrow
dusk knot
dusk knot
craggy shoal
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yeah

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lmao

mortal grail
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I can't tell if JP is talking about a GF or 50 series rn

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☠️

fresh timber
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lol

mortal grail
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Hahahah

craggy shoal
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get a gf

misty sparrow
fresh timber
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omg i got a funny idea

dusk knot
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Oh god . Lmao

fresh timber
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what if i turn this s9 into a glorfied chromecast

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an android tv

misty sparrow
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Did you mean heartbroken in terms of relationships?

misty sparrow
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Oh, no

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Never been in one never plan to

dusk knot
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Alrighty then

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It’s not for everyone

proud jackal
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Also

dusk knot
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Whatever makes you happy

fresh timber
proud jackal
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Ff7 rebirth is so beautiful on pc

dusk knot
misty sparrow
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Heard rebirth has some optimization problems

proud jackal
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It doesn't on my pc

fresh timber
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if i can get 4k 60 out the s9 id make it a tv box..

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i think it can too.. ooo ideas

unreal trail
mortal grail
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💀

dusk knot
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I noticed there wasn’t a 50 series gpu girl cosplay this year. Sad

sage sluice
dusk knot
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I thought it was great lol

velvet summit
lone mango
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I lowkey might get a 5700x3d in the future

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There is this 5800x3d bidding for $100 because of bent pins

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I actually think I can fix it

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Bro what did this man burn a hole into it

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Whats up with that bottom corner pieskull

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Oh dang a pin is supposed to be there that black spot is

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yeah my ass is not fixing that

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Wait that missing pin is a single ground pin

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I think it wont matter

unreal trail
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what did he do, comb his hair with the cpu

sinful blade
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I wouldn’t risk

lone mango
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Rest of the pins arent bent that badly though

lone mango
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You have to rotate this 180

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From this view its that bottom right middle vss

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Plus I have straightened pins before. when I was building my first computer, i remember my dad screwing in the stock cooler where he screwed in one corner completely and 3 pins on the corner were bent

idle nexus
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I'll just let it figure itself out on its own then lol

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generic waterblock & a few old Pokemon cards to remove the heatspreaders are probably cheaper lol

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C*****r makes one. I have it (don't like to admit it tho)

idle nexus
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there used to be a cheap PC Case that looked like that ram cooler

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it had a model number that was like the same as a Mercedes Benz

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I've never seen it again tho

dusk knot
rancid juniper
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dusk knot
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My poor 3080ti

rancid juniper
lone mango
dusk knot
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My poor baby 😭

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I hope it can run high at least

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Not ultra

lone mango
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Ultra vs high is indistinguishable

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Waste of resources

rough zinc
dusk knot
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Also when they say 60fps, the game will run higher with those requirements

lone mango
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Unless ultra textures then maybe

rancid juniper
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what a goofy guy, if bro have seen what Batman does he would've been livid

lone mango
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But even still

rancid juniper
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thats like every other hero

idle nexus
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maybe an L bracket or something

rancid juniper
fair onyx
dusk knot
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But yeah

fair onyx
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It has arriveedddd

rancid juniper
dusk knot
fair onyx
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3060ti 16GB lol

dusk knot
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😔

fair onyx
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I wouldn't own a 5090. Not now at least

dusk knot
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16gb... holdup

fair onyx
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they are not worth it

fair onyx
dusk knot
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Oh wow. From who?

fair onyx
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A friend of mine. he runs a business doing it

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He does all sorts of VRAM mods

dusk knot
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Wow

fair onyx
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and they are a great price too

dusk knot
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Maybe he can mod my 3080ti

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To 20gb

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Hahahha

fair onyx
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I got an EVGA FTW3 refurbished with upgraded cooling, and 16GB of faster Samsung GDDR6 over the 8GB Micron GDDR6, all shiped and taxed for $309

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I sold my 3060ti FE for $240, sooo lol

pliant berry
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I feel like this is where unified memory can come handy

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theoretically

idle nexus
fair onyx
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it can on some systems, yeah

fair onyx
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After he did the re-soldering

dusk knot
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Very clean work

wispy knot
fair onyx
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Hes very good at what he does. I know 4 people with 9 of his GPU's, and they all work great

fair onyx
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oh wait, is the 3080ti 12GB?

dusk knot
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Yes

wispy knot
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Yes

rancid juniper
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Yes

fair onyx
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Ok yeah, then 24

dusk knot
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Yes

rancid juniper
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you said Yes twice, invalid

dusk knot
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Aw

fair onyx
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Though he told me he has not modded higher than a 3070, cause on the off chance something is damaged, thats a big loss

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He has never had a card fail to this day, but if he does, it would be a big loss for him

idle nexus
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okay I need quotes for: (1) EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080ti; (2) EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3070; & heck... umm can an (3) EVGA SC2 2080ti jump from 12gb to 24gb? lol

fair onyx
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His most popular is actually 22GB 2080ti's

wispy knot
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3080 ti is what, $450 right now? Not that bad

rancid juniper
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hotswappable vram mod

fair onyx
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for the 3060ti it was gonna be $100 plus shipping

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He can obviously only mod cards with 1GB chips

fresh timber
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wot

rancid juniper
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discord client tearing apart

wispy knot
fair onyx
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Not possible

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the 3090 already has 2GB chips

wispy knot
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That's the ti

fair onyx
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what?

wispy knot
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The regular 3090 uses both sides of the PCB

idle nexus
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dude this must be so hard to do

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like damn

wispy knot
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The ti uses one side and higher density mem

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It was a major change really, it meant no more need for an active backplate

idle nexus
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3080ti with 24gb would be such an upgrade

idle nexus
# fair onyx what?

will the stonk vBIOS even know to take advantage of the increased memory??

wispy knot
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I can't believe it happened so soon but I have maxed out my 12GB on multiple occasions at 1440p

lone mango
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Nah you need a diff vbios

lone mango
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What games are taking up all of that

wispy knot
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3090 with 48GB would be an AI workstation monster

misty sparrow
idle nexus
misty sparrow
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maybe if they had more they'd be better

lone mango
idle nexus
misty sparrow
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i know

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but they're using it for AI stuff

idle nexus
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oh nvm sorry for ping

wispy knot
idle nexus
wispy knot
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That too

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Esp with large settlements

idle nexus
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Sim Settlements Chapter 2: Part 3

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I dunno what system can play that well ngl

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oh that reminds meee

idle nexus
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I was in the middle of something then got interrupted

lone mango
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True

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unreal engine games

idle nexus
lone mango
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Scam in gaming and gym

wispy knot
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Yeah I got em

fair onyx
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very few card models won't be able to handle more VRAM

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SOME can't

rough zinc
fair onyx
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but then he just re-solders the old mem and sends it back

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Also, this is the modded 3060ti running fur mark @misty sparrow

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Does anybody know how to set preferred power modes for individual GPU's?

wispy knot
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I only know of the global and per game setting

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On nvidia at least

fair onyx
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Damn

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so this 3060ti needs to be in maximum power mode to work. He did at least tell me that

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but the problem is, it seems when I set it to max power, it only does that on my main 3090, and not the 3060ti

lone mango
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7900xt for $550 this sounds bussin

idle nexus
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there's a thing to switch to the other card

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heck I don't have it installed

fair onyx
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Does that allow me to set it to prefer maximum power?

idle nexus
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but the option to sync with other card probably won't work since the cards aren't the same

fair onyx
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I need the 3090 to be set to normal power, and the 3060ti to max

idle nexus
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that's in nvidia settings

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oh uh

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maybe nvidiaprofileinspector

fair onyx
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hmmm

rough zinc
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You should be able to in nvidia control panel shouldn't you?

fair onyx
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It only lets me pick it globally, and then it only sets on my 3090 and not the 3060ti

idle nexus
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I can't remember if you can do separate controls for both cards

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if you really wanna run it hard, there's an option in nvidiaprofileinspector to disable force P2 state iirc

fair onyx
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Oh, lets try that

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Thank you, good sir

idle nexus
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I dunno if this would affect it

fair onyx
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always fun to see lol

idle nexus
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lol that's badass ngl

fair onyx
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hey uhm... Do you have a link to profile inspector? I just downloaded one from a site and I think its a scam-

idle nexus
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if you're using profileinspector, at the top you might be able to find the program you're using

fair onyx
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the file is called 'rewards'

idle nexus
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profile inspector is kinda weird these days I dunno why

fair onyx
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OH

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my bad, this is something else 😅

idle nexus
fair onyx
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oh, thanks

idle nexus
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I'm pretty sure that's the latest one I have

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might be newer

fair onyx
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Apparently it downloaded something I tried many days ago lol

idle nexus
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sometimes it's just called inspector & it looks like heckin GPU-Z for some reason

fair onyx
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ok, lets see if we can get this working

idle nexus
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what program are you using it for?

fair onyx
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Sorry?

idle nexus
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I was gonna scroll thru the profiles to see if there was a dedicated thing for whatever program you were gonna use

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but iirc you use it for AI models so probably not lol

fair onyx
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oh yeah, no

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hmmm, I am in now

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but it also seems to not have different settings for each GPU

idle nexus
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what do you use to set overclocks?

fair onyx
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Afterburner

idle nexus
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heck let me install it right quick lol

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I use Galaxy's derpy version

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with the default skin you click that white arrow to select GPU

fair onyx
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Oh yeah, that much I know, but this doesn't let me set my GPU to prefer maximum power. Thats what I really need to be able to do

idle nexus
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might need to do that too if you haven't

fair onyx
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Ok, just did that

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I am trying to get info on why prefer max power is needed

idle nexus
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ohhh heck so it doesn't give you options for each GPU here?

fair onyx
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it does not 😭

idle nexus
fair onyx
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Ah, maybe, yeah

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I could try underclocking the mem and see if that will work for just now

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ok, did a -500mhz VRAM clock, and lowered the core clock as well

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Hopefully I don't blue screen lol

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if I do, not the end of the world

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I am a very resilient person lol

idle nexus
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is your display connected to it or the 3090?

fair onyx
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Okay, it blue screened again

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The guy who did the mod said at some form of timing issue or something

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It loaded everything into VRAM, and then after about 5 seconds, my entire computer stopped responding

idle nexus
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this is probably not useful but lol

idle nexus
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& I have no idea how to set timings on a 30 series

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I tried on an ancient HD7970 with this BIOS editing tool & had to use a separate card to unbrick it lol

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which card is it btw

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I wonder if there's a tool that lets you control voltage

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aside from the physical difficulty of swapping the ICs, getting BIOS to actually take advantage of them is probably just about as difficult

fair onyx
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Its the EVGA FTW3 3060ti

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Okay, so he had me disable the 3090, plug a monitor into the 3060 TI and check if it's doing the power thing correctly. And it is

So it seems that the matter is because the 3060 TI has absolutely nothing loaded into its memory because it's not being used for displaying things, it's not actually preferring maximum performance, it's all the way down at the lowest idle clocks, and when it clocks up, it desyncs things and then because of the low power it's not able to provide the VRAM with adequate power

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So he suggested that I just get a dummy dongle for it, so I'll end up doing that

idle nexus
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ah I see

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did you disable that P2 State?

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I think that prevents it from like powering down lol

idle nexus
wise wigeon
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man 5080 uplift is meh, but unfortunately its still the best card at that range in terms of msrp

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if i was almost willing to pay 900+ in december for a 7900xtx then the 1k for the 5080 isnt far fetched

sweet phoenix
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$830 xtx :p

wise wigeon
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I wish it was better but for that price

fair onyx
# idle nexus did you disable that P2 State?

I did, but the problem is is that that doesn't seem to work if no display is plugged into it. So it idles all the way down because nothing is in the memory

On paper he said that I could get a dummy dongle, so I think I'm going to do that. But the bigger problem out of everything is that I can't afford to have my 3090 set to max power, because that's just insane

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The idle power draw on my 3090 went from 30 watts to 130 Watts

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So I need to somehow find a way to set only the 3060TI to max performance, and then have the 3090 not set to max performance

wise wigeon
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like there is just multiple factors too, its still way less power and has all the nvidia goodies

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oh a saphire one is 830

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i thought it was the crappy blower

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hmmm

sweet phoenix
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We could have some good sales after 50/9000 series launch, no saying if this is the best we'll see or not

wise wigeon
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yeah

sweet phoenix
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Or if smthn else would be better value later. It's really a guessing game, but $830 xtx in current market is good value

wise wigeon
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i'll make a pass it the 5080 but we'll see how the deals go

idle nexus
wise wigeon
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its just i've used both fsr and dlss and its unfortunate dlss is so much better

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and i dont have my hopes high that fsr4 comes down to 7000 series

idle nexus
wise wigeon
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dlss4 is nuts

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like seeing it on even 300 cards

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3000*

fair onyx
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No, if I just have it on the 3060ti, the 3090 also goes to low idle cause there is nothing loaded on it, but I can't run my system like this

wise wigeon
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i was like pfft no way is it better than native but i mean in some cases it just does

idle nexus
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what if you change windows power profile to ultimate performance?

fair onyx
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I need my 3090 to use normal optimal power, and the 3060ti to use max power. Thats all I need

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This feels like it SHOULD be possible

idle nexus
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to keep the 3060ti from idling without a display I mean

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not sure if windows would override the driver tho... heck

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which 3060ti is it again?

wise wigeon
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aw man nitro + is out of stock from non third party

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if the nitro + was 830 probably would hopped on it

fair onyx
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The 3060ti idling is much less of a problem than the 3090 using 130 at idle

idle nexus
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you did this already right?

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oh wait

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force constant voltage too

wise wigeon
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welp time to record myself opening my newegg box as a precaution

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it was sitting out for like 2 hours before i got home

idle nexus
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you could also try (after those options are enabled)

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(after AB restarts)

wise wigeon
idle nexus
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keep this at 100

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heck you might even wanna mess with this thing

idle nexus
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raise minimum voltage

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the thing is, that's gonna affect voltage for the GPU but not sure if it'll do anything for the memory

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since memory voltage is not the same

fair onyx
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hmmm

idle nexus
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some cards (HOF, Kingpin, Matrix) have voltage settings you can adjust otherwise you're at the mercy of the driver voltage

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but that's one of the reasons those cards are so expensive

wise wigeon
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ballsy mods

idle nexus
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like I can set my memory voltage but that's not common

idle nexus
idle nexus
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oh what the heck am I saying of course you are

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I forgot

mortal grail
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@idle nexus ampere voltage setting in afterburner does nothing

idle nexus
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boost lock the card so it stays in like P0 or P1 or whatever

idle nexus
mortal grail
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It's probably different on HoF

idle nexus
#

ya I think that "extra voltage" just gets added on at 100%

mortal grail
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But on afterburner nada

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It works on ada/maxwell

idle nexus
#

you saw @fair onyx got a 3060ti modded to 16gb?

mortal grail
#

Yes

idle nexus
#

ah okay

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you don't think EVGA X1 can keep voltage up so the card doesn't crash? lol

mortal grail
#

Voltage controls at least in my experience with every ampere sku, don't work on afterburner

fair onyx
#

Ok, so I am a little overwhelmed at the moment, but I was able to fanagle things in a way thats letting me at least use my AI to test it, and its not bad at all

mortal grail
#

That's why it does nothing

fair onyx
#

for being on a PCIE 1x gen 3, this is not bad at all

idle nexus
fair onyx
#

running the model on just my 3090 with low context gets me 4 streams at 24t/s, using 23 GB VRAM

Running it with big context gets me 19t/s on 4 streams with 23GB on the 3090 and 9 GB on the 3060ti. So barely even a slow down, but now I can run it with 6x the context

idle nexus
#

well wait, does the card crash at idle only?

mortal grail
#

It's not increased volt

idle nexus
#

won't that keep voltage higher? lol

fair onyx
#

The problem is the ramp up from idle to higher speeds he said. Its like it doesn't give enough power in the ramp

idle nexus
#

cuz at idle it drops down?

mortal grail
#

No

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It'll pull what it needs but ampere is extremely power limited

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Voltage is not an issue

idle nexus
#

2080ti was reallly power limited

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but when I flashed the 1000w VBIOS for 3080ti HOF onto my FTW3, it barely increased performance

mortal grail
#

It'll boost and use the voltage it requires to hold the clock but not go over that

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Yes

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Cos you hit the top of the curve

gentle canyon
#

Does Ryzen 9000 X3D exist outside of the 9800x3d?? i dont remember hearing anything unless im just blind

mortal grail
#

Same thing happened on my 90

gentle canyon
#

when did that launch?

idle nexus
#

hasn't yet afik

hoary zodiac
#

It hasn't

gentle canyon
#

oh

idle nexus
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where like

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when cards have been EoL long enough that there can't be any still under warranty

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they just release a driver where you get voltage control unrestricted

rough zinc
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Liability SAD

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Morons would download the driver, brick their card, and then complain about "Nvidia killing their card" nonstop

idle nexus
#

ya but if all warranties are expired why not?

mortal grail
#

For example

idle nexus
mortal grail
#

Here we have something called "Fit for purpose law"

hoary zodiac
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mortal grail
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And it extends to protect goods like a warranty does, but it extends way beyond a warranty

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i.e if something is clearly preventable in foresight, it likely can be included in fit for purpose definition

idle nexus
hoary zodiac
#

Wait

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Does the 5080 MATCH the XTX?

mortal grail
hoary zodiac
#

AHAHAHAHAH IT'S ACTUALLY GARBAGE

mortal grail
#

Depending on the item you can be covered up to as much as 15 years lol

idle nexus
mortal grail
#

Ye we have representative bodies instead

idle nexus
#

the thing is

mortal grail
#

So I don't think voltage unlock is warranted DogKek

hoary zodiac
#

Best 5080 is a 4080

idle nexus
#

like when G.Skill, etc. say that a product is "gauranteed for life"

mortal grail
idle nexus
#

what they mean is for the "lifetime of the product" not until you pass on

mortal grail
#

I guess if you consider like an affidavit

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Say you unlock it "WARNING: this can destroy the card" yada yada

idle nexus
#

so then the question becomes how long is the lifetime of the product

mortal grail
#

Maybe it's valid

mortal grail
#

Had a huge run of this end of last year

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I learned a boat load

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Lol

hoary zodiac
#

Is AMD going to price gouge the 9070XT

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Now that they have a free market

idle nexus
#

I don't think it would be reasonable for me to claim that my HD7970 from 2013 should still be covered by manufacturer's warranty

mortal grail
#

Not manu warranty

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Fit for purpose

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Here it extends beyond a warranty by definition

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It's mutually exclusive

idle nexus
# mortal grail Yes indeed

Also, does the lifetime of the product end at the same time for every single one manufactured or does it start the minute you purchase it new as a consumer

idle nexus
mortal grail
#

You don't know how long it'd be on the shelf, but you purchase it "new" you'd assume the condition that it's new such like pristine when you leave the store with it

mortal grail
idle nexus
#

for example, RAM: if it came out when Zen 3 & 10th gen Intel were the new, is it "fit for purpose" that the RAM no longer works using it on a 14th gen Intel DDR4 board?

mortal grail
#

Depending on the circumstances yes

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Particularly if it worked but then it now doesn't, no?

idle nexus
mortal grail
#

Open to interpretation but defined in the situation per reasonable expectation of the arbitration

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Can we pause a second

idle nexus
#

so if I managed to find a package of DDR3 at some large store that sells components, it would be "new" since I am the first person who purchased it, even if it was manufactured 15 years ago? lol

mortal grail
#

I'm impressed I'm able to hold conversation rn

mortal grail
#

That's specifically categorised under ACL

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(Aus consumer law)

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Items sold here must be clearly defined as to the condition, also to the type of merchant

idle nexus
#

oh so it becomes the responsibility of the manufacturers not only to distribute & sell new products but to snatch back anything really old so they don't end up losing way more than they earned on it? lol

mortal grail
#

Yes

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Yes haven't you seen that before?

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Lol

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Some brands actively pull stock when they discontinue something

idle nexus
mortal grail
#

It's a liability to keep it out there

idle nexus
#

some rules are different--not all

mortal grail
#

I wouldn't be able to keep up if it's all american law

idle nexus
#

lol this is an interesting discussion of comparative law to me rn

mortal grail
#

I'm glad I peaked a lawyer's interest

idle nexus
#

not quite there yet but thanks lol

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you know what the rule was in many states before the UCC & other consumer protection?

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the "common law" rule

mortal grail
#

I wouldn't the foggiest man

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US law is still somewhat elusive to me

idle nexus
#

"Caveat Emptor"

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Latin for, "let the buyer beware"

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as in, you bought it, you assumed that risk, it's broken? your problem sorry

hoary zodiac
#

Common law rule the waves

mortal grail
#

So basically no warranty if they knew the issue

idle nexus
#

even if they didn't

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unless the seller misrepresented the condition of the product

mortal grail
hoary zodiac
idle nexus
#

& then you had to split hairs about whether the seller was stating the condition or "mere puffery"/an opinion

idle nexus
#

"This truck can pull a 2000lb trailer" v. "This is the strongest truck in the world!"

mortal grail
#

Extreme debating tournaments

fresh timber
#

i made my old phone a camera

mortal grail
#

Make your bed

fresh timber
#

no

mortal grail
#

Also is that bottom left logo elgato

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Lmao

fresh timber
#

i did make it

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i just hav stuff on it

mortal grail
fresh timber
#

i wonder if i can hide it in a spot and have it charge too

mortal grail
worn wave
fresh timber
#

what els should i try on android??

#

im bored of the camera

worn wave
fresh timber
#

ALFRED CAM PEOPLE

worn wave
#

Oh it's an app, I see

fresh timber
#

yuh

#

i gott my hands on a broken galaxy s9, but everything fuctions

fresh timber
#

i would replace screen but it make smore sense to spend a little extra on a s20 plus/s20 ultra.. somehow cost around the same

idle nexus
fresh timber
#

i could puit it in my case...

#

s20s

idle nexus
fresh timber
#

i kinda wanna do that now

#

man why are their suo many older flagships for a good price..

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like damn

#

why wouild u buy a newer one when u can get a older model thats still good.. i cant even tell that the s9 is old

idle nexus
#

check woot!

fresh timber
#

woot?

fresh timber
#

UGH I WANNA BUY A FLAGSHIP

idle nexus
#

$130 for S10 refurb

fresh timber
#

damn

#

gotta check specs

idle nexus
#

woot is eh

#

well Amazon owns them afik

fresh timber
#

o

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the s amsung ultra phones seem very appealing to me at the 100-200 price

idle nexus
fresh timber
#

idk anything abt google pixels and such to know if their good value or not

tranquil pebble
#

kryosheet has arrived. 9800x3d rebuild will begin tomorrow

worn wave
fresh timber
#

slap a case on it

idle nexus
#

heck I paid like $35 for a uGreen 65w

fresh timber
#

call it a day

tranquil pebble
#

AVX-512 + 3d cache is gonna go hard

gleaming rivet
fresh timber
#

damn

#

the screen replacment for a s9 costl ike $140 from ifixit

gleaming rivet
#

I actually bought a sprint locked s10 and replaced the mobo with an unlocked s10 mobo that a friend gave me lol

fresh timber
#

damn

idle nexus
fresh timber
#

what im finding is, i like samsung phones but apples software

#

i cant live with out imessage and facetime

gleaming rivet
# fresh timber damn

aye, cost me $50 for the phone since the guy told me it was unlocked and had me drive 3 hours to get it.

idle nexus
#

heck that sounds kinda cheap

frigid stag
#

So are 4090s just gone now

idle nexus
#

must not mean RTX 3060 or RTX3070

#

I should probably click on things before I just blurt crap out

worn wave
frigid stag
fresh timber
#

and it wouldnt get my simcard

idle nexus
#

lol yup no adroid

fresh timber
#

i dont even have a simcard kekw im esim

frigid stag
#

Might resell it if I find a nice 4090 deal

worn wave
idle nexus
fresh timber
#

yeah i do

#

random things to mess with

worn wave
#

Oh my b

fresh timber
#

an iphone will ALWAYS be my main phone

worn wave
#

Thought you were looking for a new main phone

fresh timber
#

if u see me looking at iphones, that means im lookign for a new phone

idle nexus
#

Woot is looking pretty mediocre today

#

sometimes you get lucky

gleaming rivet
idle nexus
#

I got a 5000D for like $99 on there

fresh timber
#

lol

#

it ight

gleaming rivet
tranquil pebble
#

ik someone who runs Windows 11 on less than 8 GB of RAM with HDD, no SSD. The boot time is approximately 15 to 20 minutes

fresh timber
#

battery life mid, screen size small kekw

idle nexus
gleaming rivet
frigid stag
idle nexus
#

the only thing is didn't have airflow panels but I got top & front from Cors**r for like $15

frigid stag
#

I had 4gb ram and hdd from 2014, 30 to 40 seconds boot time

gleaming rivet
tranquil pebble
gleaming rivet
#

I have the original sitting around here somewhere.

frigid stag
idle nexus
#

jk I didn't even ask customer service ngl

#

I just ordered them when they came in stock

frigid stag
#

It was pretty short boot time for hdd. About the same as am5 boot time with ssd kekw

fresh timber
idle nexus
gleaming rivet
idle nexus
#

but I disable memory context restore because afik you have to in order to disable power down

fresh timber
#

did somebody say windows with 8gb ram??

idle nexus
#

& I don't want no heckin latency

frigid stag
#

True

tranquil pebble
gleaming rivet
tranquil pebble
#

plus ms office always running

gleaming rivet
fresh timber
#

its fine if u set ur expectations and know u cant have 80000 tabs open

gleaming rivet
fresh timber
#

he goin be ight

tranquil pebble
tranquil pebble
#

after it installed updates

fresh timber
#

im rebooting discord

tranquil pebble
#

before the updates it was like 3.9

gleaming rivet
fresh timber
#

no im on windows like a good boy

gleaming rivet
#

wtf is that even. I've never seen that lol.

tranquil pebble
gleaming rivet
#

Using a hacked discord client I bet /s

tranquil pebble
#

nah, Discord has a memory leak in the JS VM last I checked.

fresh timber
tranquil pebble
#

Thing probably ran out of allocated memory, and thus failed

fresh timber
#

i rebooted discord

#

whats ur problem

tranquil pebble
fresh timber
#

im too lazy

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it wil lfix it self one day

idle nexus
fresh timber
#

the ram is in my main rig

dusk knot
#

Huh

idle nexus
#

one stick is likely bad? doubt it

#

I'm running 2x8gb 4000c14

#

on my pihole lmao

#

fastest DNS in the west southeast

lunar nymph
#

Anyone know why my 4070 ti super is only at 60% usage at max settings in Indiana jones? Can’t even path travel or use frame hen without it feeling horrible, 7800x3d cpu btw

idle nexus
#

it was hard but I resisted the urge to OC the 10700KF

fresh timber
#

i just run it at 3000mt/s cuse idk if the 2300x can handle faster, and if the mitchmatch ram can

idle nexus
#

that game kicks my 4090's ass ngl

fresh timber
#

my 7700xt gets maxed out kekw

fresh timber
idle nexus
#

btw I learned a hack from Level1 Tech

#

not that it applies

#

but if you have two non-identical sets of DRAM

#

and you're using all 4

#

you should put the identical sets on the same channel

#

instead of like half & half

fresh timber
#

aay uh that makes sense

idle nexus
#

it makes me so sad when I see a PC for sale or something

#

& it has two sticks & they're both in the same channel

#

I wanna drive over there & put them in A2 B2

lunar nymph
tranquil pebble
#

I mixed DDR3 and DDR3L once

fresh timber
#

that would do it

#

ugh

#

i need to remember to save my money for macbook

idle nexus
#

which is why, iirc, reviewers test CPUs in games at 1080p

#

have you lowered the settings at all?

#

you could enable PBO on your 7800X3D but that's gonna beat on it even harder

#

Also, ray tracing is required in that game & I think that puts heavy load on CPU also

fresh timber
#

yup

#

its required

idle nexus
tranquil pebble
#

tfw rays have to be traced

idle nexus
#

another thing you could do is let the Nvidia app optimize the settings for you

#

at least that'll give you a baseline & you can start messing with settings after that

#

have you enabled DLSS?

idle nexus
fresh timber
#

so it can get turned off kekw

dusk knot
idle nexus
#

it's a bethesda game

#

they don't care lol

#

if they cared they'd update their stupid ancient game engine

#

ig it could be worse... at least it's not stinky UE

worn wave
dusk knot
idle nexus
idle nexus
icy ore
#

Ok look dumb question but why are GPUs so much more expensive than CPUs when CPUs are significantly more powerful? Is it just cos of the VRAM?

worn wave
idle nexus
#

they're designed for parallel something I forget

worn wave
icy ore
#

Hmmmm

idle nexus
icy ore
#

Okay, I wasn’t sure if it was just cos people pay for it no matter what or if there were a particular reason

fresh timber
#

a gpu is essentialy a computer that plugs into your computer

worn wave
icy ore
#

Ah I guess this breaks it down too

idle nexus
#

well heck maybe I should look into it. I only played like the first 3 minutes just to see how hard it would beat down my system with path tracing lol

worn wave
fresh timber
#

athat gpu has 16gb..

#

if vram is a problem at 1080p

idle nexus
#

lol disable paging

worn wave
#

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idle nexus
#

lazy RAM, pick that heckin crap back up & stop giving it to M.2s to hold

fringe sequoia
#

Will Newegg be selling 5090's tonight?

#

I'm ready to grab one 😭

idle nexus
#

tbh I dunno. No one here but Wegg Admin has any actual affiliation with Newegg

fringe sequoia
#

Can I ping them?

idle nexus
#

ehh I think they prefer you contact customer support tbh

#

I wouldn't ping. Maybe DM but I think customer support is the preferred method lol

fringe sequoia
#

Seems a bit extreme for such a small question though

icy ore
#

You’re more likely to get an answer from customer support because it’s directly there for that, customer support, whereas staff are likely out with friends and family currently. Just shoot customer support a message and ask to see. They’re all very friendly

fresh timber
#

they dont bite

icy ore
#

I wish they did

fresh timber
#

they are paid to deal with bullcrap

fringe sequoia
#

I don't know if I'd get a response by midnight though.

fresh timber
#

go try

idle nexus
#

hmm after some digging, they claim to offer "chat" but I can't find how to use it

#

& I found this lol

sweet phoenix
#

He only responds during business hours

idle nexus
#

isn't it like 3:30 on the left coast?

sweet phoenix
#

Also i highly doubt they could tell you anyways

sweet phoenix
#

Maybe then

idle nexus
#

lol ya here it's 7:30 so it hecks me up

#

is the customer service chat only available on mobile?

#

I feel like I'm going in circles trying to use it lol

sweet phoenix
#

Idk, but they'd be useless for this question anyways

worn wave
#

Our agents are available: 8:00AM - 6:00PM (M-F)
It's 6:30 Pacific so i doublt you'll get a response I'm actually stupid, its 4:30

sweet phoenix
#

Neweggs customer service is next to useless

#

Cough cough

worn wave
#

yeah I went the wrong way lmao

sweet phoenix
#

Lmao

#

Ggood corrected me above

idle nexus
proper fjord
#

ok guys hey not to interrupt but i got a bit scared cuz i heard nvidia directly funds a taiwanese gang known as “ping-bo”, which is known in the country of asia to famously traffick “sexy seahorses” which are seahorses that were genetically modified to be the size of a horse and had little skimpy bikinis tattooed onto them.

obviously, only the rich would be able to “enjoy” them because you would need a huge private pool. so seems legit… idk tho. Thoughts?

idle nexus
#

lol

dusk knot
proper fjord
#

i guess they were trolling me

#

i can buy 5080

rancid juniper
#
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rancid juniper
#

i dont think i can today, gotta study for a quiz tomorrow and next week

#

😔

dusk knot
#

Why do you do this to me

rancid juniper
#

lol

rancid juniper
#

once im done ill try to hop on soon

dusk knot
#

We will see

rancid juniper
#

in the meantime heres a 5090

dusk knot
#

🤤

idle nexus
dusk knot
#

1500 dollars over my budget

#

Madness

rancid juniper
dusk knot
rancid juniper
#

he's not

dusk knot
#

I know you like to benchmark

dusk knot
#

Oh

chrome mirage
#

Does anyone know of any good external hard drive enclosures. Using my gaming PC as a media server might have been a bad idea.

idle nexus
idle nexus
rancid juniper
dusk knot
pliant berry
idle nexus
#

lol dunno yet tbh

#

I haven't even tempted myself with it yet

dusk knot
#

Yet. Gotcha

chrome mirage
idle nexus
#

but ig once you go HOF you never go back

rancid juniper
#

HALL OF FRAMES

#

😳

idle nexus
#

& apparently Kingpin is sitting this round out

dusk knot
#

Rip EVGA

#

I'm going to sell my 3080ti at a high price since it's the last of its kind

#

Huh

mortal grail
#

Bad yoke nvm

dusk knot
#

L

mortal grail
#

My cousin used to say the normal phrase lmao

idle nexus
#

but apparently they couldn't work out a deal

idle nexus
pliant berry
mortal grail
#

Do you think my zotac is worth anything

chrome mirage
pliant berry
#

yeah the problem is at some of those prices you might as well start building out your own nas

fresh timber
#

i build my own cause i can control the software

chrome mirage
#

I have a PC that I use as a NAS but I'm too lazy to figure out how to get Plex to work with a NAS

fresh timber
#

best advice i got was, nas is for nas only, if u want plex do it on something els

chrome mirage
#

I just noticed theres a 5 drive Ugreen one that is on sale for $200 CAD

pliant berry
#

I would just watch the raid controllers that some of these offer. usually you use raid to add redundency or expand single storage pools but if you plan on using zfs instead for that than you probably don't want a raid controller.

then again unless you just want separate drives as if you are plugging in 2-5 drives into your desktop

#

plex with a nas... there are a few ways to do it just depends on your setup

chrome mirage
#

I don't mind having separate drives but this Ugreen one says it supports a bunch of different types of raid

pliant berry
#

yeah you might want to look into raid and the differences between software and hardware raid a bit more

dusk knot
hoary zodiac
#

the youtube algorithm likes videos talking about how much the youtube algorithm sucks

pliant berry
#

or maybe it's just you

hoary zodiac
#

💀

#

alright time to manipulate the algorithm into giving me something to watch

tranquil pebble
pliant berry
#

I need to build myself one of these

fresh timber
hoary zodiac
#

👀

pliant berry
#

get outa here with tiktok

hoary zodiac
#

ok that is actually useful

#

might actually consider making one of these

pliant berry
#

right? would at least stop me from killing the scroll wheel in my mice

proud jackal
velvet summit
# chrome mirage I don't mind having separate drives but this Ugreen one says it supports a bunch...

There's only one RAID that you should use for a nas (or maybe 2 or 3, I guess technically 4)
Raid 5 is probably the best choice for a 5 disk nas
One drive can fail and you can still rebuild
2nd option is raid 6
2 drives can fail and you can still rebuild
3rd option is raid 1
This is just mirroring and will make you lose half of your storage
4th option is raid 10, which is striping and mirroring, but not really feasible for a 5 disk nas (same with raid 1 since you have an odd number of disks)

fresh timber
#

raid 1 with three disk would be intresting

#

loose two drives before u loose ur data

velvet summit
#

It would be silly

fresh timber
#

waht i got out from some datacenter techs, skip od number

#

2-4-6-8 drives etc

#

two drives worth of data, two drives of redudent for 4

#

so two mirrior

velvet summit
#

5 disks is fine with raid 5, but it "supports a bunch of types of raid" doesn't make sense for a 5 bay NAS since you wouldn't even be able to use all of the supported types of raid properly

fresh timber
#

yeah thats weird

hoary zodiac
#

I really want a 3d printer now...

#

sigh