general-chat

[fair onyx]

normally you need ABSURD interconnect speed for training models. Like, 400GB/s+ per GPU

But a team made a training process that compressed info and just checks very lightly the info, and they reduced the bandwidth need by over 99.98%

And that allowed something amazing

[rough zinc]

Does about as much as I do

[fair onyx]

An LLM was trained on 21 clusters across 5 continents in 13 countries all around the world just using a 100mbps ethernet connection

[mortal grail]

He's saying it does things tho

[fair onyx]

Not SLI, but NV Link

[mortal grail]

Ye

No don't worry I know the difference

Lol

[mortal grail]

So would a bitcoin asic be good with ai

[lone mango]

Im split between the s23 and oneplus 11

[mortal grail]

What's the chipset on each

S23 is like 8 gen 1 right

[fair onyx]

No, different calculations, plus no support for CUDA and stuff

Although, the digit KINDA is an ASIC

[mortal grail]

Oh ok interesting

[fair onyx]

but, made by NVIDIA

here, have a look at this. My 3090 (nowhere near as fast as a 5090) can generate with a 32B param model, 4x streams at the same time

(Please excuse the lack luster responses, I am tuning something)

So even with a 3090, generating 4 responses at the same time, its this fast. The 5090 doesn't need to be faster, it needs to have more VRAM to hold bigger and smarter models@mortal grail

Oh shoot, My music was on LMFAO

I thought I muted it lmao

[lone mango]

Nah they both gen 2

[fair onyx]

Yeah, SD8 gen 2

the S23 has the SD8 gen 2 for Samsung tho, which has additional features and a higher clock, I think

[lone mango]

11 has some camera inconsistencies but the battery is crazy

23 is a little more consistent

[mortal grail]

Mmm, I don't know anything about the 11

[fair onyx]

Yeah, it has special photo engines, a higher clock speed, and some other extra hardware features

[mortal grail]

But I do know samsung has awful warranty consistency

[lone mango]

Both have 5 years of updates

[fair onyx]

I can unfortunately attest to that-

[lone mango]

brutal

[mortal grail]

Lol it's one of the big reasons I avoid suggesting samsung in general

But if objectively the s23 is still better it's only a small risk

[fair onyx]

My S22 ultra I preordered had the dead screen around the camera cut out

They said it was a known defect, said they could repair it, but cause I had the phone over a year (it has been out for 1.5 years), they wouldn't do it for free actually, and it was $450

Even after telling me they KNEW it was a big issue with the first batch of pre orders

[mortal grail]

If they told you it's an issue then it's a fault

I'd have been up at the consumer authority about that lmao

[fair onyx]

Yup, but they then denied it. It was a pain in the ass

Luckily it didn't spread TOO far, but its annoyyinngggg

its pretty big

[mortal grail]

Not the worst samsung story I've heard

But up there for sure

[rough zinc]

How's the S25U looking? Any upgrade over the S24U?

[fair onyx]

this is like when it first starts

[mortal grail]

Oh god that's noticeable

LOL

[rough zinc]

Wondering if I made a good decision with the S24U instead of waiting for the 25

[fair onyx]

Well, mine is like this so lol

[rough zinc]

Oh god, rip

[mortal grail]

Basically frame gen

[lone mango]

[rough zinc]

Ahh so nothing good?

[fair onyx]

yeaaahhhh

[rough zinc]

I will forever die on the hill that frame gen is absolutely useless

[mortal grail]

Phones have a lot of latency to begin with so that feature is a rip as far as I'm concerned

[rough zinc]

Anything else new other than that?

[mortal grail]

Not anything like, performant afaik

[rough zinc]

[mortal grail]

The big gains in the mobile industry over the last year was mediatek

[lone mango]

I love phone stagnation

[mortal grail]

Let's be real, if you buy a flagship now it's like 20 times faster than a base tier smartphone

The need for faster is stagnant itself more than ever

Cos brands sell the cheap ass SoC's at a rate of 10:1

So they don't want it either

[fair onyx]

took a pic with my tablet lol

[rough zinc]

Thats actually wild

[fair onyx]

Been like that for about a year

[mortal grail]

That's disgusting wtf

[fair onyx]

its basically stopped growing

[rough zinc]

75 tabs 💀

[fair onyx]

oh pft, I usually have HUDNREDS lol

when you get to 100 the number changed to :D

[rough zinc]

as I have 76 open as I sent that

[mortal grail]

It sounds like cancer and looks metastatic as well 💀💀

[lone mango]

I use firefox focus so I have 0 tabs open

[rough zinc]

L

[lone mango]

For some reason on iphone firefox focus cant open links in new tabs

[mortal grail]

Well cloud yeah if the oneplus looks comparable I'd go that road imo

[lone mango]

So when I use it I have oen tab

[mortal grail]

The S23 needs to be better enough

The warranty pain is concerning lmao

[fair onyx]

[velvet summit]

What the sigma

[rough zinc]

I love how the S24 is a literal rectangle

[mortal grail]

I've been back and forth over the S series, I'm glad I went xperia (At least rn)

I hear bad things about the xperia, I've held up for what it's worth

[fair onyx]

Oh also, I have been messing with a voice cloner. So enjoy Alan Watts speaking Chinese

[rough zinc]

Im glad I went samsung especially now that i have a Samsung monitor

[lone mango]

Damn op11 battery lasts 30% longer

[rough zinc]

Using my phone as remote and display calibrator is so nice

[mortal grail]

I can do that with any phone

Go look up remote mouse

[lone mango]

fr

[mortal grail]

It's an app that does it all

Lmao

*Windows required

But anw

[rough zinc]

Nuh uh

[mortal grail]

I use it on my dumb tv to stream lol

[fair onyx]

Here is a cool assistant response generated in 1 second on my PC using a new open source voice model reading a response from an LLM also running on my PC :3@mortal grail

[mortal grail]

Pyrex is based tho

[fair onyx]

Its a brain teaser question for logical thinking models. I love it lol

here is a hybrid voice reading the whole response

The voice reading the internal thinking process is pretty cursed tho lol

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail
PLED + | PLED - | PW SWITCH • 2slot
HDD +/- 2slot | RESET SW • 2slot

Everything else is free, and I have this cable left

[fair onyx]

Its incredible tho, this text to speech model only needs 200MB of memory to run

[lone mango]

Were you actually doing that this whole time

[mortal grail]

Manualllll

[lone mango]

[sinful blade]

No, I forgot to go downstairs lmao

[sinful blade]

IT DOESNT SAYYYY

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

IT DOESSSS

[rough zinc]

Looks like it goes on PLED +-

[mortal grail]

YOU POSTED IT

[fair onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cry-crying-burst-into-tears-cry-and-run-gif-24530754

[sinful blade]

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b550m-k_e_1001.pdf?v=87bba5603e0f20b147063e0eea0c7e40

SHOW ME

[fair onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[sinful blade]

I HAVE 6 EXTRA TO THE RIGHT

[mortal grail]

Here

[lone mango]

Thats ok just do the left side

[mortal grail]

COS UR NOT READING THE LABELS

[sinful blade]

But those are TAKEN

[rough zinc]

MANUAL

[mortal grail]

[sinful blade]

by the single pin

I’ve never had a bigger headache from a case+mobo

[mortal grail]

I mean I know this is doable

[rough zinc]

What's currently plugged into PLED+-

[mortal grail]

I owned a gigabyte am4 of the same year

[sinful blade]

.

[lone mango]

Oh what that is different

[sinful blade]

That’s what’s currently in

In that order

[mortal grail]

You read the label on the pin, match it to the diagram and pins on the board

[rough zinc]

Doesn't gigabyte give that plastic jig to make this easy?

[mortal grail]

Yes

[rough zinc]

Man

[mortal grail]

Even alec knows

[lone mango]

Does samsung still have a lot of bloat

[sinful blade]

This is a traded board

I didn’t get the manual or the plastic jig

[rough zinc]

I love my gigglebit mobos

[rough zinc]

Nah

[mortal grail]

But it literally says it's an LED so put it in the LED pins

[lone mango]

For some reason I have some brand loyalty even though I never used a samsung its weird

[mortal grail]

Hell

You don't even need to put it in

[rough zinc]

Had a Z590 and Z790 Aorus masters and they never let me down except for when I was just stupid

[mortal grail]

It's just a light

[sinful blade]

But the top two pins are taken by these

[mortal grail]

If my watch is anything to go by yes

[rough zinc]

I guess technically also an old Gigabyte Z170

[sinful blade]

I NEED THIS OKAY

[mortal grail]

Which is correct

[sinful blade]

So what pins does the double one go in

[nocturne flicker]

Reject the light brother

[mortal grail]

LED

[lone mango]

There is a s23 bidding 230 rn

[mortal grail]

Double ping

[lone mango]

It ends thursday

If I can get that then thats what im keeping

[nocturne flicker]

Heed not the light

[sinful blade]

These three?

[lone mango]

op11 is like 300-330

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[rough zinc]

Slap it on the HDD LED if that's empty

[sinful blade]

Which one of the three

[mortal grail]

You've used batteries right

Lol

[rough zinc]

Nuh uh

[mortal grail]

Positive and negative makes a circuit

[fresh nova]

My man

[sinful blade]

The button does not work still

[mortal grail]

Then you've not put the switch pins in correctly

[sinful blade]

But how

[mortal grail]

Idk

It's not switching on off right

The obvious explanation is switch isn't plugged properly

The worse explanation is broken button

If the little light don't work then it really doesn't matter

[rough zinc]

Put a screwdriver to the power button pins to make sure it works

If it turns on then switch issue

If it ain't, then good luck

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/електрошок-воскреситьмашину-electric-shock-resurrect-the-car-ouch-gif-15257685

[rough zinc]

Also make sure PSU be on

[lone mango]

fr

[lone mango]

[rough zinc]

I still turn on one of my computers like this

[fair onyx]

My second GPU is powered by a PSU I jumped with a little paper clip and hot glue lmao

[rough zinc]

was too lazy to figure out case wires

[mortal grail]

Your setup involves hot wiring like a car

[sinful blade]

Yes

This is the ONLY thing I’ve found

[rough zinc]

Real

That pc is a sketchy build lol

[lone mango]

fortunately my nr200 has that housing

[rough zinc]

Same build that uses a zip tie as a sag brace

[lone mango]

just plugged the whole thing in

[sinful blade]

It allows the RGB to turn off and on, and allows it to change colouring.

Which it’s a very bright static colour wheel atm, and it’s quite blinding at night.

[fair onyx]

[mortal grail]

Oh rgb led

Oh that might go somewhere else

Hey you can't blame me it just says led

[sinful blade]

Only two other pin connectors on the board

[rough zinc]

Lol throwback to this contraption, running the PSU from my main pc to the sketch bench setup just to get a time spy run off

[mortal grail]

If you're pointing at ftpm that's a module plug

[rough zinc]

2000W just to get a 6950xt and 3700x to stop crashing from not enough power....

[mortal grail]

It must go here

[sinful blade]

There’s only sys_fan1 and TPM

[mortal grail]

I can't see anywhere else on the board

[mortal grail]

Sys fan 1 is a fan header

Tpm is a tpm 2.0 header

I have one of those

I don't see anywhere else that rgb switch goes

My next guess is it doesn't go there

And the manual will say where it goes for the case

[sinful blade]

I have tried both slots

[mortal grail]

What case is this

And is it stock fans yes or no

[sinful blade]

MSI MAG FORGE M100R

Yes

It’s a terrible case

[mortal grail]

I don't get it

What does the switch led button change

The fans are argb

Argb means no case control

[sinful blade]

It turns them off and on
Turns them from static to something else

[mortal grail]

OHHHH

[sinful blade]

It’s supposed to anyways

[mortal grail]

Found it

Look at the back panel

There's a little controller

Left side

Two pins

[mortal grail]

Yep

That's exactly the one

[rough zinc]

Funny MSI moment

[mortal grail]

Why wouldn't they preroute that?

That's odd

[sinful blade]

Uh

[mortal grail]

Is the case used

[sinful blade]

Brand new

[rough zinc]

Send pic of entire back

And check case box

[mortal grail]

Here's where it should go

[sinful blade]

Nothing looks to have ever been screwed in there

Judging by 0 wear

[rough zinc]

Check case box and HDD slide trays

[sinful blade]

So these mfs never gave me my control hub

[sinful blade]

Nothin

I emptied everything out of the boxes

I’ve kept all the stuff in my spare parts box
Nothing.

[mortal grail]

Well then

Msi needs to fix that

[rough zinc]

What're the fans connected to?

Fan ARGB connected to*

[sinful blade]

Those led power strip that splits in two

[mortal grail]

Do the fans have daisy chain plugs for rgb

[sinful blade]

Two sets of these

[mortal grail]

Molex wtf 💀

[rough zinc]

Wtf

Last time I've seen molex is the flow meter in my loop before the wire fell off of it

[mortal grail]

I haven't used molex in years

[rough zinc]

Seems like MSI nit giving the RGB controller is a common issue

[sinful blade]

Back fan

[rough zinc]

Could you send a pic of the fans?

Front and back if possible

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/penguins-of-madagascar-skipper-kowalski-analysis-analysis-madagascar-gif-23546606

[sinful blade]

The rest

[mortal grail]

Wtf

Wait

[mortal grail]

Wtf

[rough zinc]

Did you buy this case on Amazon

[mortal grail]

Are those also sata

[sinful blade]

It’s from a prebuilt

NSX

[mortal grail]

Time to contact the seller

Where muh controller

[rough zinc]

Wait how brand new yet from a prebuilt

[mortal grail]

Ikr

That's not brand new

[sinful blade]

I’ve sent them a message on Newegg, and Jawa

The PSU is a non-modular pos so

[rough zinc]

Seems like you bought it used

[sinful blade]

I’m gettin a gpu, new case, and PSU when I get my refund from the state

Frick frack this company.

[mortal grail]

I mean you can just ask them for it

The controller

They might send it, honest mistake who knows

[sinful blade]

Check this out on @Newegg:NSX GAMING PC Desktop - AMD RYZEN 5 8500G, 16GB (2*8Gb) RAM DDR5 5200, 512 GB SSD NVME, Windows 11 Home, WiFi Ready, Mouse and Keyboard, 1 year warranty) https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0049-00027?Item=9SIAN6WK911249&tpk=1

[mortal grail]

Within your rights to return if not tho

[sinful blade]

This exact listing

[sinful blade]

I traded the mobo+cpu+ram to someone already lmao

So I’m just hoping they’ll send the controller

[mortal grail]

No controller is wild

[rough zinc]

Wait that pc ain't too terrible of a deal ngl

[sinful blade]

Got it for $40 less than the listing currently

[sinful blade]

The 5700g I just replaced it with is doing better

Than it

I sent them another message, with proof of receipt and what I’m missing.

[lone mango]

Brutal ram

[elfin mural]

nsx gaming lmao

[lone mango]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176810622028?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=XIUSGAwpTlK&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[idle nexus]

I knew it all along https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/facebook-flags-linux-topics-as-cybersecurity-threats-posts-and-users-being-blocked

[peak heart]

Best gpu pair with R5 7600x??

[elfin mural]

it can handle any gpus

[lone mango]

4090 would be too much

[elfin mural]

tru

[lone mango]

In some rare cases 4080 but that depends on how easy the game is to run

[elfin mural]

but i doubt they'll buy a 4090 anyway

[lone mango]

I would say maybe 4070 ti super max

[mortal grail]

He could be gaming at 8K we don't know

[lone mango]

[elfin mural]

8k frame gen

DLSS 4

with future mfg!!

[mortal grail]

Any gpu works if you don't give context to what you're doing

[lone mango]

fr

[velvet summit]

This may be a sign for me to sleep
I genuinely don't know how, but I somehow read "with future Luigi!"

[elfin mural]

30 series getting frame gen must mean

40 series will support 4x

nvidia is now selling AI more than gpus

clearer than ever

[mortal grail]

It's a me, multi frame gen

Yahoo

I have a blurry frames

[elfin mural]

Mario starts with an M too

makes sense

[lone mango]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9hqNnQ/asrock-b850i-lightning-wifi-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-b850i-lightning-wifi

Sounds like a lot but compared to the b650 its a good deal

[tepid harbor]

Would steam os work for sim racing?

[tranquil pebble]

My install of EndeavorOS works with a force feedback wheel out of box so almost certainly

[hoary zodiac]

Steam has very good controller support

[velvet summit]

Sim gear doesn't really count though
Because steam doesn't seem to support bindings with a wheel at least from what it seems, so no community bindings for wheel setups

So you'll have to manually bind all the controls

If the game doesn't automatically bind

Some games do, some games don't

[tranquil pebble]

BeamNG on Linux is quite good

[strange narwhal]

guys should I get the R7 5800x as a budget cpu
its on sale and it only costs 140$

[fresh nova]

For some reason I'm oddly proud of this.

2,010 hours seems like an achievement

[deep parcel]

Check my Steam profile lol

I am nearly at 7k hours for WT

[fresh nova]

Well 2,000 hours is the equivalent of working a full-time 40 hours a week job for a year straight. What does that mean 7,000 hours = to.

[deep parcel]

Uhh

Like 3 and a half?

[fresh nova]

My god man

You need some help

[deep parcel]

lol

Luckily I haven’t been playing as much… been working so much

[fresh nova]

Opens Rust & continues playing

Less go I got another 2,000 hours to rack up.

[deep parcel]

I started my new job at the end of December so I’ve been preoccupied with that recently

Also got promoted twice within the past week so my workload has significantly increased

[fresh nova]

What is it that you do, how were you promoted? And what are you doing up at 3AM?

[deep parcel]

I took a nap earlier so I’m just kinda awake but about to take a nap again lol

I’ll dm you

[fresh nova]

Secrets unfold

Jake is actually an undercover FBI agent sent here to infiltrate the Wegg collective & gather knowledge about the California company.

[deep parcel]

lol

[worthy meteor]

jake is actually a CIA agent using the best method to find classified foreign military documents, war thunder

[deep parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[hoary zodiac]

I love playing war thunder and then getting sniped by someone riding this

[deep parcel]

I love the naval cannon strapped to the tank

[hoary zodiac]

I love the dicker max

this stupid thing

one HE round shot at the right angle can kill the entire crew

or MG from tanks/air

it's slow and sluggish but it's extremely funny when you just snipe half the players on the other team

[deep parcel]

Good cannon tho

[hoary zodiac]

I'm trash at the game so I just sit back near objective and snipe

this thing is extremely funny

[deep parcel]

I mean that’s kinda what you gotta do with it

[hoary zodiac]

Panzer IV got nothing against BIG GUN

[deep parcel]

I love all the low tier Italian vehicles… probably my favorite low br lineup

[hoary zodiac]

low tier france

[deep parcel]

That’s suffer

7.7 France tho

[hoary zodiac]

I should go unlock the char b1 and meme all the germany/ussr players

[deep parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-okay-great-meme-just-perfect-gif-17526416213440755600

[icy ore]

Ew

That’s

Horrendous

[tranquil pebble]

fr

[elfin mural]

that's just

horrible

beaver pc

[tranquil pebble]

Touhou + Persona 3 = Kogasa Tartarus

[gilded kraken]

1 more day till i get to f5 war. Wooo!

[mortal grail]

Lmfao

If you yeet a 4080 you can definitely hit 5080 stock speeds

I just checked that

4080 Super is easier to do it

Lmao

[craggy shoal]

Man I wanted a better GPU than my friends. That’s looking like a pointless competition now :/

They all have 4080 Supers

Bruh a 5070 Ti doesn't even match a 4080 Super's specs

Can't even compete wtf

[elfin mural]

5070 has 1000 cudas less than 4070 super

c:

this has ingrained into my memory

[craggy shoal]

Lmao

Bruh this is wildly stupid

[paper verge]

Wassup

[paper verge]

Has anyone released the benchmarks?

[elfin mural]

not yet

only 5090 has been reviewed

[paper verge]

I saw linuses on the 5099

[elfin mural]

and it's got 25-30% perf boost

[paper verge]

Wasn't the coolest thing ever

Imo

[elfin mural]

from a card that has upped tdp and so much more cuda cores

i don't feel like the 5070 is gonna be all that good

[paper verge]

Ye

[elfin mural]

nvidia reduced the msrp by $50 too

definitely a sign

[paper verge]

Mr iron nvidia really did a good job pretending it was revolutionary

Lol

[elfin mural]

the even wilder thing is

30 series will get frame gen in the future

[opaque sedge]

Have were reached a plateau in silicon development for more perf or smth?

[elfin mural]

that means 40 series will get multi frame gen

[paper verge]

I feel like after amds crayz fsrr suppoet

They kinda gotta keep up

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I might as well just get a 4080 Super to match what my friends have. Blackwell is pointless lol

[paper verge]

Istg they had created new words to describe what kinda legendary thing Blackwell is

[elfin mural]

5060ti is stuck with two versions

8/16gb

[craggy shoal]

Bruh of course 💀

[elfin mural]

why not give it 16gb as standard and call it a day, christ

[craggy shoal]

Give all GPUs at least 16GB

[paper verge]

Delulu bruv

[elfin mural]

nvidia is selling AI more obviously now

[paper verge]

8gb is kinda a selling point for 16gb

[elfin mural]

cuz nvidia mentioned the possibility of 20 series getting frame gen too

not confirmed

but mentioned

[paper verge]

Dyaum

[opaque sedge]

Guys are there any good deals on 2tb nvmes?

[sage sluice]

You give nvidia too much credit

[craggy shoal]

Honestly, make it 10/20GB or 12/24GB. People buying the 4060 16GB is using that for AI. A 12GB 5060 makes more sense for 1080p players and a 24GB model for AI users

[craggy shoal]

Probably 💀

[paper verge]

8gb first of all makes people go for higher mem for their next GPU
Second of all makes the price diff make sense

[sage sluice]

What you're saying is the hypothetical world where Nvidia wants to please its customers

[elfin mural]

those days ended at 30 series

10 series is debatable

1080ti was so nicely priced

[sage sluice]

10 series had some bummers

But it was still competent

[elfin mural]

at least we had high end card costing $600

[sage sluice]

God

[elfin mural]

or was it 700? i don't remember anymore

[sage sluice]

600 i believe

[elfin mural]

but gpus weren't so absurdly expensive

[sage sluice]

Still insane

[craggy shoal]

I think it makes sense honestly. If they want to push AI so bad, why not give all GPUs at least 12 or 16GB? That’s about the minimum people go for AI anyways

[sage sluice]

Thanks covid

For showing nvidia they can get away with stupid prices

Actually just every big business tbh

Food industry is at what, +30% profit rate rn?

Which is legitimately absurd

[gilded kraken]

friend of mine linked me 5080 benches

on average 8% over a 4080 super. Seems to be 8-15% roughly depending

[craggy shoal]

What's even the point in upgrading lmao

[gilded kraken]

Usually you dont upgrade each gen. It should be a good kick for me from a 3080 10 gig though

[craggy shoal]

900 -> 1000: big upgrade
1000 -> 2000: big upgrade
2000 -> 3000: big upgrade
3000 -> 4000: big but expensive upgrade
4000 -> 5000: just not worth upgrading

Bruh what happened

[gilded kraken]

power gains from node shrinks alone are tapering off slowly

[sage sluice]

Im tempted to get a cheap server build

Like a 500 dollar dinky thing for hosting a game server

[craggy shoal]

Go AM4. 5700G, whatever motherboard, DDR4 is cheap. You can fit whatever storage you want in that type of system

65W. Has graphics so you don't need to learn how to go into headless mode. Actually the best beginner setup imo

Or just a cheap Beelink machine if you want something cheaper and smaller

[sage sluice]

Maybe maybe

Im curious if the cheapest m4 mac mini would be a competent choice too lol, although it would be macos

[pliant berry]

Yeah for a server i would really want a headless Linux system

But the Apos should run regardless

[sinful blade]

The 8500g can’t handle 5200mhz or above

[hoary zodiac]

How do I make steel in my backyard

[hoary zodiac]

What are you running?

You can get a used mini pc for dirt cheap

[paper verge]

Bruh when will the new amd GPU come

[hoary zodiac]

My Haswell mini pc was $50

Not sure how much coffee lake is

[fresh timber]

Chat

[fresh timber]

https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/alex-ocho/ishowspeed-declared-mayor-of-lima Wikipedia needs to update,

Speed was mayor

[mortal grail]

Man I wish nvidia would show speed rn

5% uplift for 50 series generation lets gooo

[fresh timber]

I’m waiting for Wikipedia to update showing speed was mayor

[storm narwhal]

Wat

[fresh timber]

Yeah..

[storm narwhal]

He probably didn't do anything stupid

[fresh timber]

False information

[fresh timber]

He’s not stupid, it’s just an act

Lmfao they refuse to mark him as a real mayor

[fresh timber]

Droq droq

[reef grove]

https://tenor.com/view/present-key-and-peele-substitute-teacher-gif-18000128

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/Fbg7ChsjmEA?si=BhJJ_IgM3PJsidgC

https://youtu.be/meekBr-ZB1E?si=tgaP0WZr1rNJ1S2V

https://youtu.be/sEu6k-MdZgc?si=WrF_CZbkwbFXBkTp

https://youtu.be/d7k4XWg-TcA?si=gDrMxnQEVvOXOg4u

https://youtu.be/IvQwlN1sE0U?si=3kekoCavNH6ydL67

We're off to a "great" start @dusk knot

[storm narwhal]

From what he shows it's pretty charitable to assume he's dumb tbf

[mortal grail]

I warned you all it was gonna be mid

Even I ended up looking optimistic which is funny af

[fresh timber]

That’s where he tricks you, acting dumb makes him money

If he acted normal.. why would people watch him

[rancid juniper]

NgreedAI does it again

[storm narwhal]

I pretty much just ignore him tho

So it doesn't work on everyone lol

Anything he says or does I automatically disregard

[fresh timber]

I don’t even watch streamers lmfao, but in the background they are really smart

Making more money than us

[storm narwhal]

That's fair enough I guess

Dunno if it's smart or more luck and timing though

[fresh timber]

They have to coordinate a lot in the background

[storm narwhal]

Comes with time and under pressure anyone can learn how to do that

[mortal grail]

Expect this for the rest of the cards btw

Near this level

[storm narwhal]

Just learn how to maintain a schedule and organize your dono goals and stuff

[mortal grail]

I think 5070 Ti is the only exception

[storm narwhal]

Its not hard when it's thrust upon you

[rancid juniper]

L

[mortal grail]

I feel genuinely sad for people who were camping out for a 5080 Astral and dropping $1400 on a card they thought would beat a 4090

Which was never going to happen

But now it looks even worse than before

[storm narwhal]

I kinda knew this gen would be a flop ever since the dlss 4 announcement

[rancid juniper]

Even after these reviews some idiot would STILL BUY IT, cuz Nvidia

[mortal grail]

Yeah the cluey worked it out, then reality ended up worse than expected

[storm narwhal]

"Ah yes, my fake frames will make it better than a real gpu rendering frmes"

[mortal grail]

I am basically treating this gen as like when the 3090 Ti dropped

[storm narwhal]

Look how that's going

[mortal grail]

Just longer

Lmao

[fresh timber]

Flipper

https://tenor.com/view/sussy-baka-you-gif-26128368

[mortal grail]

5070 campers be like:

[rancid juniper]

MFG will save it frfr

[mortal grail]

Yeah in 2 years I'm betting

When 60 series will save it

☠️

[storm narwhal]

Imagine trying to render extra frames when your game renders at less than 60fps

[mortal grail]

"Introducing DLSS 5" 💀💀💀

God this is such a bad fumble

This is awful

[fresh timber]

Dlsss 8

[gilded kraken]

man, looks like I might have a easier time getting one of these at launch than I expected. its not quite as good as I expected XD

its going to be a massive upgrade over my 3080 but still

[mortal grail]

Take my advice, a used 4080/4080 Super looks wayyyy better than the 5080 rn

$800 for that vs $1000 for the new one if you even manage msrp

Some 20% give or take more for what's basically 5%

[storm narwhal]

Or just wait for 6000 series

Legit

[mortal grail]

And MFG may yet come to 40 series at that since 30 series is getting FG

There's seriously too much writing on the wall rn

[storm narwhal]

Wait 30 series is getting FG?

[mortal grail]

Yes

[storm narwhal]

O

[mortal grail]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/102701/nvidia-teases-dlss-frame-generation-for-geforce-rtx-30-series-owners/index.html

[storm narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/terminalmontage-leon-smug-gif-10301560174523497601

[fresh timber]

50 series has more upgrades than peformance, improved bench

[mortal grail]

40 series is 4x faster with tensor vs 30 series, vs 50 series at 2x faster *over 40 series

[storm narwhal]

No reason to upgrade

[mortal grail]

40 series could very likely get 3x mfg

[fresh timber]

NVDEC is god

[mortal grail]

Just use quick sync tho

You said it urself lol

Intel OP

[fresh timber]

Your right

4080 and a310

Ultimate combo

[mortal grail]

BOOM!

[rough zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/big-aj-big-justice-boom-costco-guys-gif-13543695932005238540

[fresh timber]

I think the 5090 might beat a310 uncertainly

B310 needs to release

I found a reason for 5080fe over 4080fe, size

[devout forum]

wait a second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meekBr-ZB1E

5080 SUCCCCC

[dusk knot]

4080 ti super Sucks!

[dusk knot]

Oh crap!

Latency for us too!

[elfin mural]

but you'll also be able to use reflex 2

[dusk knot]

It's terrible. I'm skipping this gen

[dusk knot]

We will see how good it is

After that, what a Lame gen

[elfin mural]

it made 1x frame gen usable

almost viable for fps

[mortal grail]

Reflex 2 is on the cards if 30 series gets fg

[elfin mural]

^

[mortal grail]

Not stated so, but possible

[elfin mural]

reflex 2 involves inserting the part reflex cut off

[rancid juniper]

Nvidia's Intel moment

[idle nexus]

don't watch this doofus. He'll probably say to run the 5080 with 5600mhz DDR5 cuz "fASt RamS doEsN't mAkE PoRt RoYaL sCoRe gO uP"

I'm watching GN rn

hoping my 4090 still beats 5080 lol

[devout forum]

Oh no he's basically saying it's disappointingly overpriced for way too little gain

but basically everyone is saying that

[idle nexus]

simultaneously watching the, "Output the last lines of the pihole.log file (live)" I finally set up last night

10700KF finally has a purpose in life lol

4090 holding the line rn lol

3080 to 5080 seems like decent upgrade tho

[mortal grail]

Tldr it's not even a contest

4080S +5% ±5%

4090 is at least 20% above that

[devout forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbg7ChsjmEA
Linus is PISSED

[idle nexus]

ya pretty happy with 4090's showing here

5090 beats 4090 pretty bad but I think I can live with the 2d best GPU (for desktop consumer at least) on the market for now

what the heck 7900XTX beats 5080 sometimes

[mortal grail]

Surprised people still don't know this

For a long time I've been saying the XTX is better than the 4080/S

[idle nexus]

this is just raster tho no? I don't think they've shown RTX yet

[mortal grail]

The raster is ridiculous

It's mostly raster yes but that's the point

It's so much better it levels out

[idle nexus]

looking very true rn lol

damn I just got an ad

but I know it's impossible to block ads coming from the same server as the video

uBlockOrigin for LG SmartOS plz 😭

[mortal grail]

Fr?

[idle nexus]

4090 cybertank? what the heck is that lol

[mortal grail]

YT is the only reason I'd use pihole

Damn

[idle nexus]

ya it's kind of disappointing ngl

[mortal grail]

Well guess that sets my decision then

[idle nexus]

well before you say that

the only device using internet besides my desktop only using discord is the smart TV

it's definitely doing something

[idle nexus]

this is in about a minute

wait I think 5080 beat 4090 by like 6% at 1080p once lol

4090 Cybertank is kinda odd lol

[cerulean mirage]

humans are smart they stopped smoking in places and we did still exchaling carbonmonoxide after we turn oxygen into it

they went to school

[idle nexus]

oh 5080 beats 4090 on efficiency 😴

[idle nexus]

I think we breathe out carbon dioxide not monoxide or something

[velvet summit]

Lmao

Carbon monoxide is mainly caused by incomplete combustion of some form of carbon whether it's a hydrocarbon or wood

[mortal grail]

I breathe out burnt wood

[idle nexus]

I know carbon monoxide is why you don't run your generator or car with the garage door closed

cuz it's odorless, colorless, & will put an end to your existence

[velvet summit]

Specifically by asphyxiation pretty much

[idle nexus]

5090 to 5080 is so weird

seems like 5080 should be a 5070 by comparison

that aside, "5070, 4090 performance" claim is gonna be interesting

[idle nexus]

you saw this? lol https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/facebook-flags-linux-topics-as-cybersecurity-threats-posts-and-users-being-blocked

[mortal grail]

Lol

It's amusing for sure it shows how big of a disconnect there is to whoever did that

[idle nexus]

gotta get rid of those evil hackers

[fresh timber]

is the 5090 out yet

[idle nexus]

pihole sending lots of crap to pi oblivion thanks again lol

[fresh timber]

o u got the 2nd router working?

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-confirms-full-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-specifications-featuring-gb203-and-gb205-gpus

[mortal grail]

5070 Ti is gonna be right between 4080 and 4070 Ti Super.
5070 is gonna be right between 4070 and 4070 Super.

Hah

Funny that

[rancid juniper]

[mortal grail]

The 5070 price tag lines up well doesn't it

550 vs 500 and 600

The 5070 is gonna look more pathetic than the 4070 did wtaf

[rancid juniper]

5070ti at THE VERY LEAST should've been faster than a 4080 super but I guess not

[mortal grail]

I already did the math

It's at best going to be dead in the middle

[rancid juniper]

💀

Mid gen fr

Holy crap

[idle nexus]

sooo

[mortal grail]

Now is THE time to buy used last gen

Asap

[idle nexus]

just like 40 series, the xx90 is really the only impressive improvement?

[mortal grail]

Yep

[rancid juniper]

Demand is going to skyrocket

[mortal grail]

In fact in regards to both launches

And market prices

[rancid juniper]

Yea

[mortal grail]

That's the most apt statement so far gary yeah

It's like 40 series was to market but slightly less painful

But the 4090 was way better

[proud jackal]

Is 5090 out yet

[mortal grail]

Wayyyy better

[rancid juniper]

Say bye bye to RASTER

[mortal grail]

4090 completely decimated the benchmarks and we also got frame gen

[idle nexus]

damn... & what? four years later?

[mortal grail]

Super saved it

[idle nexus]

MFFG is gonna be even more controversial now that apparently 50 series barely moves the needle

[rancid juniper]

Next gen

6090 has transistors

The rest, nah

[proud jackal]

Well just use imaginary transistors

Using DLSS to generate them

[rancid juniper]

Ai will create it

[proud jackal]

[idle nexus]

I can just imagine it now (5060ti 8gb with 192-bit memory bus cuz Nvidia refuses to learn) "5060TIES is moRE thaN 4X beTTeR thAN 3060ti aT 1080P wItH MFFG"

[mortal grail]

They'll release a super series in a year

[idle nexus]

lol 5060ti raster is gonna be like tied with B580 at 1440p

[mortal grail]

And it'll give us what we actually wanted

Why is nvidia super turning into like amd x3d

Wtf

[proud jackal]

So... I ... Shouldn't get the 5090?

[rancid juniper]

Can Intel please announce b770 already? I wanna see a shakeup

[idle nexus]

5090 is a monster & class leader hands down

[mortal grail]

Imagine the 5090 super exists

💀

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[idle nexus]

I feel like 4090ti never happened because 4090 sold so well

it's like, why bother if we're already making a heck ton without R&D costs

ig 5080 is a relatively good product in terms of price?

[mortal grail]

At msrp

And even then, sales have already beaten it

It's effectively DOA if you discount MFG (unfinished anyway)

[idle nexus]

obviously I haven't used it, but I find it really hard to imagine that multi-frame gen is gonna be great... how can 3 fake frames for every 1 real one not feel goofy? I dunno

[mortal grail]

It has serious issues

[idle nexus]

of course it's gonna matter what the base frame rate is

[mortal grail]

It's a long way from equitable

[worthy meteor]

It's gonna look nice to other people, that's about it

[mortal grail]

FG however is not

[idle nexus]

but going from like 25fps to 100fps with MFG can't be that great

[mortal grail]

FG is usable

[idle nexus]

going from 100fps to 400fps would probably be nice

[mortal grail]

Hence 40>50, hell 30>50 rn looks dumb af

Even 7000>50

[idle nexus]

100fps looking like 100fps but input derp of 25fps? ehh

[mortal grail]

7000 is being actively discussed as a possible fsr 4 candidate, it has reasonable performance

[mortal grail]

Reflex 2 fixes this

Reflex 2 makes it wildly better in fact

[proud jackal]

5090 ti

[mortal grail]

You're only left with the 8ms overhead but total system latency is halved so it's way better

[idle nexus]

well then maybe MFG will feel like your GPU is 4x better than it is lol

[mortal grail]

It'll look better, not feel better

Latency doesn't feel better with mfg

Feels the same/worse

However if they keep dropping latency towards 0ms then that part won't matter

It will just be plain better

Reflex 3 when

[idle nexus]

I guess if I had to choose between 25fps & goofy 100fps, I'd for sure take the 100fps lol

[mortal grail]

Ye if there's no actual drawbacks me too

[idle nexus]

25fps is useless anyway

[worthy meteor]

They're already trying to go for negative latency with AI guessing what your input is going to look like so I wouldn't be surprised if with the power of AI they get close to 0ms

[idle nexus]

much more useless than goofy 100fps

[mortal grail]

Agree

If they manage it then excellent

[idle nexus]

isn't there some camera technology that's supposed to do that lol

[mortal grail]

Here's an interesting take

With latency near 0

Fps count barely matters anymore

You hit 240fps you hit a perceivable max

The rest of the gains do nothing

[idle nexus]

as long as it doesn't look like someone is pressing the right arrow on a PowerPoint really quickly

[mortal grail]

Or rather

Effectively nothing

[worthy meteor]

0 latency 120fps is probably enough

[mortal grail]

For most people yeah

For comp

240

[idle nexus]

I'm cool with 144fps tbh

[mortal grail]

Beyond that is mousefeel memes

[worthy meteor]

480hz lol

[mortal grail]

240 is super achievable tho

[idle nexus]

I'll take the 144fps at 4k

not on FV43U lol

[mortal grail]

240 oled looks stupid smooth

[idle nexus]

actually it's 138ish fps

not 144

cuz vsync

[mortal grail]

Eh

Eh

Turn off vsync

Lmao

[idle nexus]

I kinda like it for like Fortnite lol

[mortal grail]

It's a gsync monitor it doesn't need vsync

[idle nexus]

sorry ya that

gsync

[mortal grail]

Vsync will cause wild variance

[worthy meteor]

G sync testing had best latency at like 141fps for 144hz

[mortal grail]

Oh

Lmfao

[rancid juniper]

no... STOP

[worthy meteor]

Slightly under refresh rate

[mortal grail]

One letter gdi

[rancid juniper]

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[idle nexus]

I don't cap framerate

[mortal grail]

You should

[idle nexus]

gsync does

[mortal grail]

Fortnite loves a cap

Cap as he said 141, or 144

[idle nexus]

gsync keeps it at 138fps

[mortal grail]

Goodge

[worthy meteor]

I don't think anything changed since this
https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/

[mortal grail]

Early gsync no, they just removed the module afaik

The tech is barely different

[idle nexus]

lol

[worthy meteor]

Hdcp is kinda dumb

[idle nexus]

wait...

[mortal grail]

You know what's better than fv43u

[idle nexus]

does this refer to Edge (the browser)?

[mortal grail]

Two fv43u

[idle nexus]

lol jk probably not the browser

Doom the Dark Ages looks a little crazy

[rancid juniper]

why i keep framerate cap
-smooth frametime
-LOW POWER

[idle nexus]

I want it to pick a number & try to stay there

[rancid juniper]

pushing over your monitor's refresh is a waste of energy imo + high temps

[idle nexus]

which ig is why cap might help but let gsync do its magic ig

[rancid juniper]

mmm yes

[idle nexus]

do you do overdrive?

[idle nexus]

so it pushes display >144hz? lol how do I know if that's actually being displayed? manually set refresh rate in nvidia settings?

btw crosshair kinda cool cuz you can make your own

pew pew

it takes so unreasonably long to make those cuz you have to do one square at a time lol

I gotta like get 8" away from the screen

close one eye

lmao

[mortal grail]

Picture quality

[idle nexus]

I'll change from SmartOD lol

you ever install those color profiles??

[mortal grail]

Also uninstall that software omg

Yes I did

Uninstall the software bloat and use the remote man

[idle nexus]

I almost never use it

[mortal grail]

The OSD has all the settings

[idle nexus]

but crosshair needs the derpware I think

crosshair too? lol

[mortal grail]

The software is just useless bloat

No

Crosshair too

It's just bloat

I've gotten both the crosshair and the fps counter to work

Try it lol

[idle nexus]

I'm looking rn but don't see it lol

oh derp

dashboard or game assist probably not settings

yup

it's there

[mortal grail]

Debloat urself

[idle nexus]

wait wth

thought it wasn't centered but that's just the preview lol

you can't make your own crosshairs without the bloat I think

soo worth it

[mortal grail]

Eh

[idle nexus]

(not really or at all honestly)

[mortal grail]

I don't need aim assist

[idle nexus]

it's stilly tbh

btw I have no clue what "Aim stabilizer" even does

[idle nexus]

oh btw

[mortal grail]

I've never looked at it

[idle nexus]

I found all my old log-in info for crypto wallets yesterday

that I hadn't looked at like like 3 years ish

found like $240 lol

[mortal grail]

Nice

[idle nexus]

apparently some pay interest lol

[mortal grail]

Leave them another 3 years

[idle nexus]

there was one random coin that I had like $10 worth of that I left there just to check on it in like 5 years lol

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Dn3p5Wgzsk8

[rigid sinew]

good morning everyone

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/NdvtZj5Ouho?si=B6ZUEQGcgWwSK3Ga

[sinful blade]

Wife has tried marvel rivals

[dusk knot]

Gud

[fresh timber]

@idle nexus how many ad list did you add? If you need some I can send you to a website that list good ones

[tranquil pebble]

Programmers that don't know how to use source control need to git gud.

[proud jackal]

Morning

[pliant berry]

Good night

[rancid juniper]

Good afternoon

[hidden isle]

Long time no see eggheads

I wonder what happened to Eggman’s Amazon-based shop

[rough zinc]

Snow got so bad the lifts shut down

[proud jackal]

[worn wave]

Not refresh rate. Pixel response times

Set OD higher if you're seeing ghosting/smearing behind things during movement. If you set it too high you can see inverse ghosting

Those options look weird though

Usually it's more like low/med/fast

Or off/high/extreme

[craggy shoal]

I should start 3D printing as a business

[fresh timber]

lol

i really wanna get a s20 plus rn to play with

[proud jackal]

Do I wake up for Asus store 5090 launch online

6am

[fresh timber]

YES

enter my address too

[proud jackal]

No

[dusk knot]

Theo about to spend 0.0000001 percent of his fortune on a 5090

[fresh timber]

Your missing a few thousand zeros

[worthy meteor]

50 theocoin

I'm almost tempted to try and buy a 5090 for resale

[dusk knot]

My bad

[devout forum]

This I find really funny cuz 4080S is now like 800 dollars

so cost per frame goes significantly more in favor of 4080

[elfin mural]

lmao

wot

that's wild

[devout forum]

Yeah theyy calculate cost per frame by retail pricing

[rancid juniper]

ggood's favorite posts

[worthy meteor]

Tiny lil Noctua fans

[sage sluice]

Dawg dreams of scalping rich people

[rough zinc]

I gotta do that

What cooler is that?

[craggy shoal]

Three Noctua fans

[rough zinc]

Nah i meant the AIO

[craggy shoal]

Idk

[worthy meteor]

Looks like freezer iii

[rancid juniper]

hmm it says arctic

😏

[rough zinc]

Im going to kiss you

Kill*

[rough zinc]

WHY DOES MY PHONE KEEP AUTOCORRECT KILL TO KISS, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IT DID THIS

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[worthy meteor]

It's what you want to do

[rancid juniper]

didn't know alec had those type of feelings

[rough zinc]

Ahh didnt know they released a third one

[rancid juniper]

i understand

[rough zinc]

i hate yall

[rancid juniper]

lol

[rough zinc]

I should make a waterblock that looks like that, looks pretty good ngl

[dusk knot]

The 6090 will save us…..

[proud jackal]

Happy lunar new year

[rancid juniper]

no

[worthy meteor]

Happy new year

[rough zinc]

I need me a 6090

[rancid juniper]

MFG 8x

3x faster than a 5090 (AI EVERYTHING)

[dusk knot]

60 series…..NGREEDAI can’t fumble then

[dusk knot]

60 percent uplift

Too much power for a single gamer

[rancid juniper]

120% price jump

180% scam

[dusk knot]

I will save up 3600 dollars

For a full cpu upgrade to

[nocturne flicker]

Make peace not war

[rough zinc]

Nuh uh

[rancid juniper]

[rancid juniper]

Alec after mastering nuclear physics or whatever:

[dusk knot]

Your phones you wants you to make peace… not war. thats very hippy.

[mortal grail]

LMFAO

[rough zinc]

Time to go back to iPhone...

[mortal grail]

What are you gonna do to the s24 alec

[rancid juniper]

tim cook would be proud

[mortal grail]

Are you gonna kiss it

[rough zinc]

I know where you live Felix

[proud jackal]

[dusk knot]

Theo getting richer

[dusk knot]

Real gamers play rivals on low

[mortal grail]

Guys he's coming to kiss me help

[proud jackal]

Slower than 4080supe in ca

[rancid juniper]

lumen be killing frames fr

no use in that for marvel rivals

[dusk knot]

Yep

[rancid juniper]

ngl they should've stuck with UE4 but still roll with the artstyle

i guarantee you that the perf would be wayyyy better

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

5080 MID AS HECK

[dusk knot]

CPU

[rancid juniper]

7900XTX / 4080 / 4080s owners stay satisfied

[mortal grail]

Bus

[rancid juniper]

its still garbage

[dusk knot]

Unplayable

[mortal grail]

1440p is most accurate

[rancid juniper]

😂

[proud jackal]

ITS OKAY GUYS NVIDIA DRIVERS WILL FIX EVERYTHING

[dusk knot]

You might be right

[rancid juniper]

from nvidia discord server

lol someone also posted this