Just oc that thing and you get a faster cpu
#general-chat
elfin mural
hoary zodiac
That's actually not bad value in retrospect tbh
rancid juniper
My ram can't go any higher now
hoary zodiac
nvm the 5700X3D msrp is $249
rancid juniper
nvm the 5700X3D msrp is $249
Great AM4 cpu
hoary zodiac
Bro got vengeance bin
fresh timber
Nah, my vengeance is clocking higher
sage sluice
Bro got vengeance bin
Its called that because it seeks vengeance against those it dislikes
hoary zodiac
Its called that because it seeks vengeance against those it dislikes
Vengeance against people who don't do research
sage sluice
Vengeance against people who don't do research
Well if it dislikes everybody its the same point of avenue
hoary zodiac
You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting good vengeance
B die?
On those pcbs?
🤨
fresh timber
Imagine not doing 3500mt in vengeance
sage sluice
Only corsair thing ill buy is their psus when they arent overpriced
hoary zodiac
Unironically might still be better than vengeance
rancid juniper
Only corsair thing ill buy is their psus when they arent overpriced
This
hoary zodiac
Did you get a gigabyte coffee lake board or something
Back when gigabyte made slop
oh
It was asrock's slop era
The pro 4 was actually good on B450
Guess it's not the same for intel
BRUH
Z370
H310 looking board
That thing looks so cheap
They really just got a B365 and soldered a Z370 chipset on it
💀
The B450 was... Surprisingly decent
Like it's not good but for the price
You could run a 3700x on it I'd reckon
Oh
Eh
That's not bad tbh
Like B365 price
Back when motherboards were cheap
It's funny how sata m.2 is just completely irrelevant now
velvet summit
rancid juniper
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809840106478502011/1333771771530182749/RD...
Yes this is definitely how half life 2 takes place
icy ore
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809840106478502011/1333771771530182749/RD...
Such a powerful scene
elfin mural
swap miku for krystal 
there's this one mod that got the character's voice actor for the star fox series
so it integrates into hl2
tranquil pebble
I am not using any thermal paste this time ||using a graphene thermal pad instead||
unreal trail
Zuckerberg was caught chestgazing Bezos' wife at Trumps inauguration
sinful blade
Hoping my student financial aid refund didn’t get paused because that would screw me over significantly
unreal trail
craggy shoal
I could probably slap my 5600G in my B350
velvet summit
I still find it funny that am4 supported so many generations of cpus that they ran out of space in their CMOS for support of every generation of cpu
craggy shoal
lmao wait is that why AM5 exists?
I guess it also gave them a reason to switch to DDR5
velvet summit
Nah, am4 needed an uphaul, but it's why (at least from my knowledge) older cpus weren't supported anymore on motherboards that had an updated bios to support ryzen 5000
velvet summit
I don't think x570 supports 1000 series
Yeah it's too new
B450 and x470 was the last to support 1000 series
velvet summit
Not like the cpus supported it anyways
craggy shoal
lmao
I still don't care for 5.0 even
I kinda want to upgrade though. I've seen how quick my gf's PC boots now that it's on a PCIe 4.0 drive. I'm kinda jealous lol
Not too much quicker (I also have memory context restore enabled)
devout forum
PCIE 5.0 won't matter for at least another 5 years for GPUs
The only one that KIND OF benefits from it is the 5090 and that's a GPU that's both stupid expensive and kinda stupid
It took until the 4090 to even have a shot at saturating 4.0 ×16 iirc
frigid stag
Not too much quicker (I also have memory context restore enabled)
Might be amd vs intel thing
devout forum
And even then, 7080 might end up losing 5% performance on 4.0
craggy shoal
The 7080 will only be able to chug out ~15% more performance than an RX 480 atp
devout forum
Lol
pliant berry
Man i got like 2 pcie 4 ssds and im still on pcie 3.0
rancid juniper
Well at least it won't get too hot 
fresh timber
Nah, am4 needed an uphaul, but it's why (at least from my knowledge) older cpus ...
thats why updating can remove support for older cpus but add new cpus
velvet summit
yeah that was what i was talking about
tranquil pebble
lmao wait is that why AM5 exists?
AM5 exists because a new socket was needed for DDR5, and for PCIe 5.
fresh timber
Man i got like 2 pcie 4 ssds and im still on pcie 3.0
I’m still on 5
molten basalt
will the asus 5090 astral be easier to get than the msi 5090 suprim soc?
proud jackal
velvet summit
unknown
molten basalt
I assume not alot want to pay $2800 but for me that is nothing
i just want a 5090 for msrp $2k-$2800 lol
wind quail
will the asus 5090 astral be easier to get than the msi 5090 suprim soc?
With gpu's as long as the cooler on one isn't utter garbage, the cheapest is the best assuming it's the same gpu underneath e.g. the best 5090 is the cheapest unless you want to pay much much more for the chance to be able to overclock it slightly higher
worthy meteor
With the numbers rumored to be in stock for the launch, just try to get any of them, whatever you can get your hands on, Asus tends to be a more popular brand so the suprim might be slightly easier to get
elfin mural
5060ti with 16gb
with 8gb as a weaker variant huh
so the exact same case as the 4060ti
worthy meteor
Kinda annoying to still have the 8gb lol
elfin mural
yeah
still sun
Lemme guess the 5060 TI is gonna be like 7-800 dollars
rancid juniper
Well that's up to the seller / demand
RTX 5070 is $549 in msrp
Doubt it would be priced that way though 💀
still sun
jesus, they are expecting the 5060 to be around 380 dollars
dusk knot
5080 reviews are on the 30th?
still sun
screw that for 8 gigs
still sun
oh right nearly 400 is entry level for them hehe
worn wave
discord mods when someone uses above PG language on an above PG platform
dusk knot
Precisely
fresh timber
An platform of which is pg13
dusk knot
Discord is not king here
fresh timber
Let’s go complain in the Amazon server
rancid juniper
8gb 5060/ti for around 300-400 is already trash
Intel already giving 12gb GPU for $250
10gb for $220
Hopefully their bottom of the barrel GPU b310 (if it ever exists) should be at least 8gb
I do have doubts tho
fresh timber
I do have doubts tho
It prob won’t matter
A310 was used for encoding and servers basic output
No need for more than 4gb vram
still sun
8gb 5060/ti for around 300-400 is already trash
Why do they not have a good 1080P only card anymore lol
Like a 5030TI or something
worn wave
that should be the xx50
rancid juniper
No need for more than 4gb vram
I mean you can market it as such but cmon, surely they can put at least 6gb on it, besides they can just lower bandwidth or something to compensate
rancid juniper
Like a 5030TI or something
Money
still sun
A 5050 wouldn’t be a bad idea
rancid juniper
RTX 5050 gonna rely on upscaling so much
FG makes it look like it's faster than a 3090 or something
still sun
5050, 8 gig, for 275, have it be a cut down 5060 or whatever
fresh timber
I mean you can market it as such but cmon, surely they can put at least 6gb on i...
But why
Or hear me out, but b580
Cause Nvidia low end suckd
still sun
Yeah I’m dreaming of a nvidia low end
still sun
Intel basically owns the low end at this point
worn wave
Intel basically owns the low end at this point
eh, nvidia and amd could step in, they just don't want to
less profit margins
still sun
Ive said it a few times, i would love a nvidia card but am not spending 400 dollars on a 8 gig card
rancid juniper
less profit margins
That's wild for a company like AMD
They should stick to it 120%
But nope
fresh timber
Twke the cost from materials, to labor and add 20% ez
I bet labor adds like $100-$200 to the cards price
velvet summit
fresh timber
chicken nugget
rancid juniper
Y'know I thought RDNA4 would be like this
-RX 9080 XT : $499
-RX 9070 XT : $399
-RX 9060 XT : $289
-RX 9050 XT : $219
-RX 9040 XT : $140
dusk knot
too affordable
rancid juniper
That's the problem
fresh timber
fr
rancid juniper
AMD won't find profits with this
fresh timber
if they amde it affordable id have no choice but to buy ad
fresh timber
AMD won't find profits with this
they need to make up marketshare
rancid juniper
they need to make up marketshare
Well with the way they're heading it's a rocky one
fresh timber
take the loss on this generation soo future gens can prosper
fresh timber
Well with the way they're heading it's a rocky one
looking better than nvidia
useable vram
still sun
Oh yeah
rancid juniper
useable vram
Well if they decided to sacrifice massive profits this gen they'll definitely win many fans in the process
velvet summit
the 80 in 9080xt stands for 80gb vram frfr
fresh timber
how did the 7600xt get 16gb vram but 7700xt got 12 bruhhhhhhh
fresh timber
Well if they decided to sacrifice massive profits this gen they'll definitely wi...
add +$20 so $20 on every gpu
ez
fresh timber
if they dont do this everyone who doesnt use their brain will flock to nvidia
rancid juniper
Already enough AMD's first fumble is delaying the launch but hopefully when it comes the drivers are super polished with all the features (like FSR 4) ready to go
still sun
Anyone with sense would see that nvidia is a poor option rn unless you just wanna spend an absolute ton of money
still sun
if they dont do this everyone who doesnt use their brain will flock to nvidia
Oooh right
fresh timber
Already enough AMD's first fumble is delaying the launch but hopefully when it c...
id rather a delayed polished gpu over a early unfinished product
still sun
Yes anyone with no brain would do this
fresh timber
they already do
still sun
id rather a delayed polished gpu over a early unfinished product
Same
Im curious what nvidias discord looks like 😂
fresh timber
i think amd has had enough time to figure out how to make drivers
fresh timber
Im curious what nvidias discord looks like 😂
nvidia shilling, talking abt amd gpus and recommending them gets u banned
rancid juniper
id rather a delayed polished gpu over a early unfinished product
True, I was mad at first but if they launch it with no features promised it would've been much worse
still sun
nvidia shilling, talking abt amd gpus and recommending them gets u banned
Litterally
fresh timber
im speakign from expirence, i got banned
still sun
Wait what
fresh timber
sorry somebody wants to buy a 4060 when its littrely not even value
still sun
The heck
fresh timber
at the time
fresh timber
YES, YES< buy a 4060 with 8gb vram over a gpu with 12
velvet summit
what if we just got something cheap without all the "Features" that nobody actually uses
just performance 
still sun
YES, YES< buy a 4060 with 8gb vram over a gpu with 12
Lets see a stack up of the 4060 vs even a 6800 lol
fresh timber
litrely
craggy shoal
oh yeah fun stuff
fresh timber
a 4060 cost way too much for what it is
rancid juniper
what if we just got something cheap without all the "Features" that nobody actua...
It should've been that way but with all the marketing bs they've presented, they unfortunately have to deliver
velvet summit
oh yeah fun stuff
no way
The gman volume
craggy shoal
💀
fresh timber
i bet the nvidia discord is shiling the 50 series laucnh saying its the best thing to ever live, while the amd server is shilling amd
still sun
a 4060 cost way too much for what it is
Their entire product portfolio costs more than what it is
fresh timber
4060 needed more vram, 4070 and above.. lowkey not bad
fresh timber
i bet the 4060 could be a decent 1440p gpu if they.. didnt gimp
nah bro, we gotta upscale everything :))
worn wave
i bet the 4060 could be a decent 1440p gpu if they.. didnt gimp
more vram wouldn't help the fact that it's barely better than a 3060 which already has 12gb
fresh timber
more vram wouldn't help the fact that it's barely better than a 3060 which alrea...
with these newer unoptmied titles, in a few years i bet the extra vram on the 3060 will start making a diffrence
game funna just over provision the vram or something and use it poorly and run bad
still sun
Yeah but its still gonna be more expensive than a card with 16 i bet
worn wave
eh, 3060 raster is gonna be too slow for it to really use 12gb in games.
fresh timber
idfk why the 4060ti has 16gb vram and 4070 has 12
craggy shoal
for AI
worn wave
idfk why the 4060ti has 16gb vram and 4070 has 12
16gb is a special variant
still sun
AI has its place but i think people are letting it get out of hand
fresh timber
who tf buys a 4060 ti 16gb for ai professionally
devout forum
3060 has more vram than a 3080
That's kind of the screwup of the generation
Don't worry they rectified it quickly
By nerfing the 3060
worn wave
they did it with 4060ti and 4070 too
they really didn't though. 4060ti 16gb is not the main model, 8gb is
devout forum
nGreedAI: "We'll sell you the idea of never having enough VRAM as the pinnacle of purchasing decisions"
still sun
nGreedAI: "We'll sell you the idea of never having enough VRAM as the pinnacle o...
Basically
fresh timber
they really didn't though. 4060ti 16gb is not the main model, 8gb is
it still exist and gets sold
worn wave
yes, for AI
craggy shoal
ai 🤓 i hate ai
I mean I'm not wrong lol
still sun
Nvidia doesn’t offer 16 gigs for under 400 dollars
fresh timber
they seem to be marking it twords gaming, i dont see them saying, AI CARD! on their marketing for it
rigid sinew
good morning everyone!!!
devout forum
Nvidia doesn’t offer 16 gigs for under 400 dollars <:derpyBlob:80041535489140327...
Officially under a grand lol
fresh timber
like to a normal consumer this looks like a gpu for gaming
still sun
Officially under a grand lol
Oh yeah
rigid sinew
T - 7 days for FLORIDA
fresh timber
T - 7 days for FLORIDA
walk their
worn wave
like to a normal consumer this looks like a gpu for gaming
those are 8gb lol. 16gb is rarer
rigid sinew
walk their
there
devout forum
NGL a 4060 Ti doesn't really need 16 gigs for gaming because it's absolutely terrible in raw performance and can't use it anyway
fresh timber
those are 8gb lol. 16gb is rarer
i looked up 16gb
my friend has one of these cards, lets pray for him
still sun
my friend has one of these cards, lets pray for him
The entire Nvidia discord needs prayers 😂
worn wave
i looked up 16gb
yeah well maybe use a browser/search engine that doesn't feed you sponsored results lol
or just learn to read and ignore sponsored results
fresh timber
yeah well maybe use a browser/search engine that doesn't feed you sponsored resu...
And two doesn’t even tell you which one
Atleast on face value
worn wave
And two doesn’t even tell you which one
*one, the other is a Radeon card lmaooo
Haven't used Google in so long; forgot how terrible it is
still sun
Tie
fresh timber
The last generation that didn’t have ai plastered everywhere
still sun
The last generation that didn’t have ai plastered everywhere
As a car enthusiast hearing the last generation that didn’t have X feature is very relatable
Don’t know why AI is such a big deal on these new GPUs
rancid juniper
Find low profile RTX 4060ti
devout forum
The entire Nvidia discord needs prayers 😂
That concept terrifies me
It's like the inner sanctum of the absolute most hardcore fanboys right?
Like you have to own at least 2 FE cards to be granted entry
rancid juniper
There are some members in the Nvidia discord server that surprisingly have a brain or chill
"some"
devout forum
I guess they're just
Being highly ironic with it then
rancid juniper
Guess so
still sun
That concept terrifies me
Not even God can save them from overpaying on a GPU
rancid juniper
Technically my first GPU vendor I've used was Nvidia
still sun
I had a GT 710
rancid juniper
Oof
still sun
That’s my only experience with Nvidia
rancid juniper
LMAO
still sun
I got my RX 580 several years ago
rancid juniper
I've experienced
-Nvidia GeForce 6150se (garbage)
-GTX 650
-GTX 960
-GTX 1060 3gb (🗿)
-GTX 1060
-GTX 1080ti mining card 5GB
rancid juniper
4 HDMI slots for like $60
Not bad
still sun
I think those were actually decent price cards though
rancid juniper
I think those were actually decent price cards though
All of them were except for my one purchase of the 1060 6gb
devout forum
I'm gonna give them another shot with the 4080S eventually
But it'll be used so that doesn't really count
still sun
I saw that the 5060 might be under $400 but it’s only eight gigs
devout forum
8 gig VRAM in 2025 is an immediate disqualify in my books
I will never recommend 8 gig cards to anyone
still sun
Yeah, same I’m looking at getting an RX 6800 for like 360. It’s got double that
devout forum
Also "below 400" basically means 399.99
There's absolutely no circumstance where nGreedAI will sell a GPU for less than that
still sun
Friends don’t let friends I buy 8 gig cards
devout forum
Exactly
fresh timber
Find low profile RTX 4060ti
Rtx 4060ti max, yeah I been trying to find it
still sun
I love how it’s not even out yet and we can’t justify it
devout forum
It'd take nGreedAI putting actual effort into the product to get me to justify it
Now yes, you can accuse me of being biased towards AMD
fresh timber
It Nvidia gave gpus real vram id like them more
devout forum
But that's mostly because anything below the 90 SKUs is just objectively awful value and carries crippling cuts that are all there to drive everyone to the 90 SKUs
The point of the existence of the product stack at team green is to maximize the sale of 90 SKUs
still sun
Come get your screaming deal on a 2000 dollar gpu
still sun
Isnt the 90 basically a titan?
fresh timber
Yeah
devout forum
It's not gonna be at "the right price"
fresh timber
It cost less than a titan I think
worthy meteor
They sell better cards in high quantities for data centers, they're just after profit margins for everything else sold for consumers
fresh timber
It's not gonna be at "the right price"
My right price is $1000
still sun
A 5080 at 800 would be glorious
devout forum
Cuz you don't know about the XTX I guess
fresh timber
Cuz you don't know about the XTX I guess
Doesn’t fit my usecase well
devout forum
Cool, DLSS also sucks
fresh timber
Encoders suck
fresh timber
Cool, DLSS also sucks
Dlss objectively better in its current state
devout forum
Upscaling in general sucks honestly
fresh timber
I’d rather use the less sucky upscaling
devout forum
Dlss objectively better in its current state
You're still forced to use it to get playable framerates lmao
fresh timber
You're still forced to use it to get playable framerates lmao
Works for me
devout forum
Your loss
sweet phoenix
At least in marvel rivals, FSR works better than DLSS for me
fresh timber
I’m not saying AMD is bad, I’m saying it’s not for me
sweet phoenix
Thats a 20 series gpu tho
devout forum
I'd under no circumstances pay a thousand for an 80 class
still sun
What about Intel?
fresh timber
A310 over all gpus
worthy meteor
Dlss 1 has always sucked ime, you need the better dlss implementations which takes newer gpus, fsr doesn't limit you
devout forum
The absolute most I'd be willing to give for an 80 class GPU is
Drumroll
750 bucks
fresh timber
Crazy
still sun
4090 should be 1,000 dollars max
still sun
Is that a 1080TI refrence?
devout forum
nGreedAI didn't just get handed all the leverage by BS marketing and influencers
rancid juniper
80
devout forum
Is that a 1080TI refrence?
So what if it is?
fresh timber
Rename 5090 to titan skmething
fresh timber
5090 still cheaper than a Titan lmfao
devout forum
ROFL
still sun
The 5090 is basically: “Too poor to afford a titan, too egotistical to spend less on a flagship from a different company”
fresh timber
Too bad AMD quit flagships this gen
Leaving Nvidia to price top end at what ever they want
fresh timber
The price after we wait a few months for prices to be normal
devout forum
The official MSRP, the actual price you can get one from stores or the scale of prices
velvet summit
The 5090 is basically: “Too poor to afford a titan, too egotistical to spend les...
i mean, there hasnt been a new titan since like 20 series right
devout forum
Because the ONLY time you'll get MSRP pricing is literally on launch day
fresh timber
The official MSRP, the actual price you can get one from stores or the scale of ...
Did Best Buy leak the prices yet, I have the 5080 prices
devout forum
Just
Make your choice
Cuz any 3rd party 5090 will cost more MSRP than a Titan RTX MSRP (iirc)
still sun
It’s not like they’re hurting they don’t need your money
devout forum
And that's before scalper pricing is factored in
Hell rn
You can already buy a 5090
fresh timber
Cuz any 3rd party 5090 will cost more MSRP than a Titan RTX MSRP (iirc)
We should wait until prices normalize before discussing it
devout forum
For 5 grand
If you're lucky
Or 7 grand if you're impatient
fresh timber
The stock is going to be bad at launch
devout forum
We should wait until prices normalize before discussing it
That's the thing, they are not going to normalize.
NVIDIA is making that sufe
still sun
That's the thing, they are not going to normalize.
Isn’t there a meme about that?
devout forum
Stock will be low at launch sure
But it's not gonna improve by much because Nvidia will not give up and lower price on a 90 sku
still sun
Like you see they aren’t
proud jackal
Is 5090 out yet
devout forum
Keep prices high, and if possible raise them above MSRP after launch
still sun
Please don’t
devout forum
Why do you think the 40 series was discontinued months ago
To dry out any and all stocks
fresh timber
I have class
devout forum
And 4090 prices always trended up
fresh timber
Can’t text while taking apart an engine
worthy meteor
Nvidia is just taking advantage of supply and demand
devout forum
MSRP 4090 hasn't existed for at least 2 years at this pint
fresh timber
Nvidia is just taking advantage of supply and demand
That’s what happens when theirs no competition
devout forum
Hell 4090 prices doubled over the last 2 years
worthy meteor
30xx was mostly reasonably priced and it got scalped to hell
There's too much demand and not enough supply
Might as well reduce the demand
devout forum
There's too much demand and not enough supply
That's the crazy part
Nvidia COULD produce enough for everyone
They just choose not to
Because if the demand is met
Prices drop
worthy meteor
That's the crazy part
Nvidia COULD produce enough for everyone
They just choos...
They can't
devout forum
Artificial shortage is among the most asinine tactics of mfg/stores
worthy meteor
They're selling out to data centers
devout forum
So there is enough chips
worthy meteor
They can't get enough 5nm wafers
devout forum
They just chose not to sell them to people but to AI farms
worthy meteor
They can't meet data center and consumer demand at the same time
And one offers to pay more
devout forum
It's still an artificial shortage then
still sun
That sounds like a them issue
worthy meteor
How is it artificial if they can't produce more
devout forum
They can't meet data center and consumer demand at the same time
That's the excuse
I heavily doubt they're really not able to produce more
I think that's a fat lie
worthy meteor
You can look at AMDs statements on the 9800x3d shortage, it takes months to produce more
They're all competing for wafers from tsmc
devout forum
Because it's INCREDIBLY interesting that the shareholders are all being told that there's enough chips if need be
Schrödinger's wafers?
worthy meteor
Because it's INCREDIBLY interesting that the shareholders are all being told tha...
Who is being told what specifically?
devout forum
Ultimately nGreedAI is only being motivated by the literal freight trains of money AI farms have
So naturally, they'll allocate every wafer possible to them
still sun
That sounds like them
devout forum
There might even be less than 3-digit supplies of 5090s but thousands of AI cards
Nvidia already prefaced the launch with "Yeah there's barely any of them, deal with it"
And I'd not be surprised if they all get scalped immediately
worthy meteor
There's just more demand from the AI side, it's going to be a shortage for them too
TSMC keeps talking about how they have to double their 5nm production to meet demand
devout forum
Now this is a theory coming in
But I'd not be terribly surprised if Nvidia quietly gives preference to scalpers paying in lump sums for "bulk" purchases to scalp later
devout forum
There's just more demand from the AI side, it's going to be a shortage for them ...
But the AI side is fulfilled right away
Curious isn't it?
still sun
Very
devout forum
There's no shortage for AI cards
worthy meteor
But the AI side is fulfilled right away
Wdym fulfilled right away, they can't get enough cards either
still sun
It seems like a general consumer like
You and I arent really that important to them
worthy meteor
There is enough demand that Nvidia can just not launch 50xx for consumers and still not have enough for AI
devout forum
Except the only ones being told there's an AI card shortage is the small fish
Meta or Google asking for 10 thousand cards get their deliveries basically the next day
Curious
rancid juniper
Cap meter: 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
devout forum
It seems like a general consumer like
You and I arent really that important to t...
It's been pretty blatant that Nvidia is no longer a graphics company
It's fully an AI company with a spinoff graphics department with like 5 interns at this point
devout forum
Cap meter: 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
Or bro got a heatsink
rancid juniper
Or bro got a heatsink
It has to be
worthy meteor
Meta or Google asking for 10 thousand cards get their deliveries basically the n...
Remember when they had 1 year lead times
devout forum
Remember when they had **1 year lead times**
Again, that was 40 series
There's no like months lead times
With this gen
And if you remember
devout forum
Gpus sell out everywhere not just America
For reference I remember some rumors/leaks that there might be less than a thousand 5090s for sale for the whole world at launch
frigid stag
devout forum
The entire world
Less than a thousand
I remember a "between 300 and 500 total cards" number floated around
That's available for all standalone purchases at launch
Now yes if you're an SI you can probably order like
A pallet
And that's it
mortal grail
There's definitely more than 500
frigid stag
I highly doubt that’s true
devout forum
All the 90-class silicon is being pushed into AI cards that yield 1000% profit margins (allegedly)
mortal grail
Supplier bulk orders set numbers at "more than minimum 10"
devout forum
Supply is almost guaranteed to be abysmal and scalpers are going to have a field day
mortal grail
So you wouldn't be supplying to a region without at least a few
devout forum
Again it was claimed to have leaked from Nvidia
mortal grail
But nvidia sells hundreds of thousands of cards at each release is the thing
devout forum
Not confirmed in any capacity
worthy meteor
With this gen
The most recent number I could find, from mid last year, "Despite the CoWoS production capacity catching up and a significant easing in the supply of AI GPUs, due to the allocation system, the delivery time for the main H100 GPU shipments from various end-system partners can still reach up to 20 weeks."
devout forum
But I'm not entirely discounting the thought that there's like a thousand 5090s at launch and scalpers swoop then all
woven turret
oh yea does anyone know a site for pc parts in europe, preferably germany, thats mostly cheaper or about the same as amazon and supports paypal?
devout forum
Amazon?
worthy meteor
Check if proshop does
devout forum
Amazon takes PayPal iirc
woven turret
Amazon takes PayPal iirc
dont have that choice
mortal grail
Ah yeah proshop I forgot that one
worthy meteor
or check mindfactory and alza and alternate
rancid juniper
5090 launch in two days?
worthy meteor
Anyways 5090 launch is most likely going to be terrible but I wouldn't put the cause of it as anti consumer behavior
mortal grail
5090 launch in two days?
📄🚀
rancid juniper
5090 in the hands of:
-rich Bois
-youtubers YouTubers
-no life scalpers
still sun
Same
rancid juniper
Lol
mortal grail
rancid juniper
mortal grail
woven turret
amazon does have the cheaper Thermalright FN 240
worthy meteor
amazon does have the cheaper Thermalright FN 240
Btw if you still need sites that take PayPal, proshop, alza, and alternate all should take PayPal
I believe Amazon stopped taking PayPal a few years ago
woven turret
proshop only has the 360 which is way pricier
nocturne flicker
Nvidia is up 7.65% today
woven turret
Btw if you still need sites that take PayPal, proshop, alza, and alternate all s...
and the rest doesn't have it
worthy meteor
and the rest doesn't have it
You could switch to lf3 and get it straight from arctic for a reasonable price, they should use PayPal
https://www.arctic.de/en/Liquid-Freezer-III-240/ACFRE00134A
61 euros with free shipping
woven turret
and it has all the adapters including for am4?
still sun
that's why they lost 600b in stocks
woven turret
on the phanteks xt pro, are the fans behind the front mesh cover included?
they say when you order it you get the case and one fan
worthy meteor
Just the rear fan is included
still sun
that's why they lost 600b in stocks
No, it’s because the word entry-level came out of the CEO’s mouth and everybody decided not to invest or whatever
woven turret
so I have to buy the front fans separately?
worthy meteor
Yes, you can get any 120mm fans for that
mortal grail
You're getting the thermalright @woven turret
There's your 3 fans
It's accounted for
woven turret
cowabummer, I thought they were included
mortal grail
The aio has them so you're fine
woven turret
You're getting the thermalright <@389364099563126784>
thinking about the arctic, top mounted
mortal grail
Ah
worthy meteor
Yea the AIOs fans will act as intake/exhaust as needed
woven turret
maybe get 2 fans for the front
mortal grail
The arctic is tough to fit top mount btw in cases like that
Fair warning
It's thicker than standard size
So non-standard size might interfere with the motherboard
woven turret
so front mounting is easier?
woven turret
arctic seems a more viable choice
mortal grail
Thermalright will fit better if it supports top mount
Then front arctic
I've seen this happen a million times lmao
worthy meteor
Generally not too bad though, only thing that screws with it is extra wide ram iirc
mortal grail
Let me spare you the headache
mortal grail
Generally not too bad though, only thing that screws with it is extra wide ram i...
Top io cover/sink
worthy meteor
Really?
worthy meteor
I just remember someone with the Corsair sticks that are extra wide interfere with the fans lol
woven turret
im getting corsair vengeance lpx, 2 sticks for now
mortal grail
Nah usually it's top io cover, then ram typically if the board ram is high
mortal grail
im getting corsair vengeance lpx, 2 sticks for now
Also any other ram that's not this if you can
Vengeance ddr4 is the worst ram on the planet
I'm not bashing
worthy meteor
Yea I'd recommend against Corsair ddr4 for other reasons
mortal grail
It's the highest rma rate ram I've ever seen
worthy meteor
Unstable with bargain bin dies
woven turret
and Asus Prime B550-plus mb
mortal grail
That's usable
rough zinc
Bro is getting the RMA special build
woven turret
so the corsair vengeance isn't good?
mortal grail
Yeah the amd primes aren't great but it's serviceable at least
craggy shoal
Yeah Vengeance memory made my whole OS stutter
worthy meteor
With everything else, it's like a 2% chance of getting something that's unstable and won't work, with Corsair vengeance lpx, it'll be closer to like 20% lol
woven turret
well damn
worthy meteor
You can often get lucky and be fine but there's such a high chance relatively that you're better off without it
mortal grail
It's phenomenally common to have high failure rates
rough zinc
I miss my funny b-die LPX
woven turret
so it might fail at any given point?
worthy meteor
There's a good chance it'll have random instability
woven turret
2x 16gb
worthy meteor
If you run into windows randomly crashing with no other reasons for example
woven turret
are you also gonna tell me the Gigabyte Radeon Rx7800xt is bad?
worthy meteor
If it just works for you, then you may have gotten lucky and you can be fine with it
I don't like gigabyte's fan curve but there's nothing generally wrong with it
still sun
are you also gonna tell me the Gigabyte Radeon Rx7800xt is bad?
Thats actually a good card, the 7800XT
mortal grail
are you also gonna tell me the Gigabyte Radeon Rx7800xt is bad?
It's fine, but I recommend a gpu support brace
They're like $5
woven turret
I'll use it for OS and online games
craggy shoal
They're like $5
(Free if you have a nice enough 3D printing guy)
worthy meteor
Runs a bit hot iirc, but generally fine SSD
rough zinc
are you also gonna tell me the Gigabyte Radeon Rx7800xt is bad?
It's fine until you gotta go through customer support
woven turret
(Free if you have a nice enough 3D printing guy)
I know a guy
mortal grail
(Free if you have a nice enough 3D printing guy)
Yeah or old lego if you were that kind of kid
worthy meteor
Actually it might've been the p5 plus that runs hot, I usually mix those up
woven turret
how do I know how big a brace I need?
craggy shoal
Yeah or old lego if you were that kind of kid
"That kind of kid" dawg what 😭
rough zinc
Goddamn piggie judging me for my legos
mortal grail
Gigabyte uses a divot in their pcie slot design, allowing easier access, but in turn it adds to sag issues, hence the brace suggestion
mortal grail
"That kind of kid" dawg what 😭
Not all kids had lego, dawg don't read into it too much
rough zinc
Not all kids had lego, dawg don't read into it too much
Yeah yeah yeah
craggy shoal
Not all kids had lego, dawg don't read into it too much
I had a ton of legos lol
mortal grail
how do I know how big a brace I need?
Once you have the pc built you'll know
worthy meteor
Any size lol
woven turret
toothpick will do
worthy meteor
Stick like 10 toothpicks together and it'll probably be fine
craggy shoal
how big the brace gotta be?
Long enough ;)
They adjustable
worthy meteor
Toothpicks and some duct tape
rough zinc
Zipties
worthy meteor
Duct tape fixes everything
mortal grail
Stick like 10 toothpicks together and it'll probably be fine
The simpsons had a funny moment about this
woven turret
should I lay the PC on the side and measure the clearance between gpu and bottom of the case then get the brace?
worthy meteor
Usually the ones you buy are adjustable
rough zinc
LOL that's reminds me of my 6950xt brace
mortal grail
The simpsons had a funny moment about this
Dammit there's no gifs about it
Lmfaoooo
rough zinc
Zipties best brace
craggy shoal
should I lay the PC on the side and measure the clearance between gpu and bottom...
You can eyeball it tbh
worthy meteor
But you don't need to buy anything, it just needs some support from anything
worthy meteor
Lmao
rough zinc
If it works it works
craggy shoal
Y'all have sag? 💀
rough zinc
It's absolutely not the same
Close enough 
rough zinc
Y'all have sag? 💀
Nah, my pipes be keeping my card in place
woven turret
I found a nice brace but it has 3 different adjustable sizes
talking about the Phanteks XT pro case, what some good fans I can install on the top?
rough zinc
Noctua iPPC
craggy shoal
iPP lol
craggy shoal
Germany? How'd you know I’m part German?
worthy meteor
Yea should be free shipping through Arctic directly
mortal grail
Germany? How'd you know I’m part German?
How'd you know I'm also part German
craggy shoal
:0
rough zinc
Damn Australians
woven turret
and they should blow air into the case right?
mortal grail
Wait maybe it's related to how we work at the same place
rough zinc
On top, out of the cas3
craggy shoal
and they should blow air into the case right?
Top should exhaust
rough zinc
Screw this, i can't type
mortal grail
and they should blow air into the case right?
Front in, top+back out
mortal grail
Screw this, i can't type
It's ok Al3c
craggy shoal
Front and bottom intake (as long as there's a fan filter). Top and rear exhaust
rough zinc
It's ok Al3c
Im going to kill you
rough zinc
Suuuure
woven turret
I think I should order the parts I need
different case and cooler
wait
the case only supports 240mm radiators in the front
360 on top
240 good yea
where is everyone
worthy meteor
For a 5800xt it's plenty
mortal grail
It's good but again, just be wary it's like 1.5x thicker radiator than other aios
I'd really lean into using the notte, the notte is as good and cheaper
Also doesn't have the dodgy intel mount if you for some reason need intel at some point
worthy meteor
I'd really lean into using the notte, the notte is as good and cheaper
I think the problem was that Amazon doesn't take PayPal
woven turret
so I have to place the radiator so that the fans blow air into the case right?
mortal grail
Ye
mortal grail
I think the problem was that Amazon doesn't take PayPal
O
woven turret
dawg +100 euro shipping
worthy meteor
Uhh
woven turret
thats straight up robbery
woven turret
oh shoot yea
worthy meteor
Lemme check what cases are at okay prices for Germany
mortal grail
Grim an easy way to do this
Standard atx case
Front has mesh
More than 1 fan is a bonus
rough zinc
What's a good cheap 512gb M.2?
woven turret
is caseking good?
rough zinc
Need something to throw into this random pc I got lying around
mortal grail
What's a good cheap 512gb M.2?
P34A60 always cheap
Think the only brand I'd straight up veto for cases is gamemax if it's not an M60
Or diypc
woven turret
59,90 +5€ shipping on caseking
mortal grail
That's much better
worthy meteor
This looks reasonable, 4 included fans with mesh at 60 euros
https://www.caseking.de/kolink-unity-solar-argb-mesh-mid-tower-white/GEKL-147.html
mortal grail
Good case doesn't need much
woven turret
white is so...
idk doesn't look too good on a case
should I just get the phanteks?
rough zinc
Anything keychron
worthy meteor
There's also this thing that's black and has 4 included fans
https://www.caseking.de/kolink-observatory-duo-argb-mid-tower-schwarz/GEKL-122.html
worthy meteor
4000d like front thing, not mesh but holes
woven turret
I like the numpad but it take so much space
rough zinc
He wants a full size keyboard from asking in #peripherals-and-displays
worthy meteor
I like recommending Keychron for the shipping to anywhere
mortal grail
Oh full size
woven turret
yea
mortal grail
Rip that makes things harder
woven turret
70-80€ is alright
mortal grail
Yeah think keychron is mostly the limit there
rough zinc
woven turret
Rip that makes things harder
I use it a lot
mortal grail
I think there's a few others
rough zinc
Already gave you options
rough zinc
Okay go check out the few I sent at the message link, none of them have blue switches
peak heart
Free ms word ??
rough zinc
Free ms word ??
Nuh uh
peak heart
🚀
woven turret
Free ms word ??
where?
rough zinc
Bridge75/rainy75
I wouldn't recommend the rainy75 really, firmware issues and terrible QC
worthy meteor
Use the web based Microsoft tools, those are free since Microsoft wants to compete with Google
peak heart
Use the web based Microsoft tools, those are free since Microsoft wants to compe...
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
woven turret
@rough zinc is the lemokey x3 only red backlit?
rough zinc
It's only red
fresh timber
rough zinc
If you want RGB look into the Keychrone V6 max
mortal grail
I wouldn't recommend the rainy75 really, firmware issues and terrible QC
I use bridge75
rough zinc
For your budget you're going to have to make sacrifices somewhere
mortal grail
rough zinc
The amount of dead bridge75s you see in the r/keyboard discord is kinda funny
woven turret
loose fit, put some zip ties to hold the rod in the middle
woven turret
If you want RGB look into the Keychrone V6 max
expensive
fresh timber
loose fit, put some zip ties to hold the rod in the middle
We gave up trying to install the pistons
tranquil pebble
woven turret
We gave up trying to install the pistons
what car?
woven turret
you could almost say it's french
woven turret
The other 5% reached their destination
got me in the first half not gonna lie
rough zinc
woven turret
luckily I was able to put back the front end of the Land Cruiser with about only 2 veery small screws leftover
unimportant screws
trust me
mortal grail
luckily I was able to put back the front end of the Land Cruiser with about only...
Based car
rough zinc
Shame that the French suck at building cars, especially engines
mortal grail
We live and die by them here
lunar nymph
Is it fine if I have and adrenaline downloaded for my Ryzen cpu while having the NVIDIA app for my gpu or should it be driver only or something else
mortal grail
Is it fine if I have and adrenaline downloaded for my Ryzen cpu while having the...
Is fine
rough zinc
Single handedly destroyed Mercedes' reputation with the Renault I4s
mortal grail
yes but the owner drives it like a bumper car
As horrendous as that is it should live lmao
woven turret
Shame that the French suck at building cars, especially engines
they suck suck
rough zinc
Still don't get why Mercedes started using Renault engines 😭
woven turret
the car drives fine, no issues but the exterior is ugh
woven turret
Still don't get why Mercedes started using Renault engines 😭
its mostly the 4 cylinders
except the AMG 4cyl
rough zinc
Yeah its only the 4 cylinders that are bad
mortal grail
I nearly bought a clio
woven turret
yea, the 3l and 3.5l diesel v6 is still mercedes
rough zinc
The 3.5L NA V6 is bulletproof except for the timing chain, and the 3.0L V6s have your usual turbo issues which aren't bad
woven turret
I nearly bought a clio
bad idea
mortal grail
I woke up before it happened tho
woven turret
timing on the M271 is a pain in the behind
fresh timber
mortal grail
I drive le volkenwagon
rough zinc
Yeah i have a 2020 E450 and a 2012 C350, both amazing cars except for the microphone being faulty on purchase on the E450
woven turret
the chain tensioner is dumb
fresh timber
I drive le volkenwagon
Can I steal your pistons
mortal grail
Can I steal your pistons
From my cold dead hands sure
rough zinc
timing on the M271 is a pain in the behind
The press on phasers on the camshafts on the M276 are the only annoying part imo
woven turret
Yeah i have a 2020 E450 and a 2012 C350, both amazing cars except for the microp...
I have 2001 E46 320ci convertible
rough zinc
And the fuel rail getting stuck on the injectors
Hate getting that thing off, always takes the injectors with it
woven turret
M271 is different
woven turret
Yeah, never had any experience with the M271
you dont want to
woven turret
easiest timing job I've done was on my first car and on my 3rd car, both had the VW 1.4l na BCA, timing belt, very easy, no TSI bullcrap
I wouldn't touch a TSI with a 10 foot pole
rough zinc
I love seeing people butcher timing jobs then take it to a mechanic wondering why they have a bent valve
EA888s are pain
woven turret
the valve gave the piston a little kiss
bruh
again
anyway, im gonna return this case and the poopy cooler
better?
mortal grail
If those were both new yeah
worthy meteor
rancid juniper
Oh boy
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-monitors/if-trumps-new-threat-of-...
mortal grail
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
tranquil pebble
Oh boy
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-monitors/if-trumps-new-threat-of-...
$800 RTX 5050
If this goes through anything above iGPU will be considered exotic lol
worthy meteor
I can't wait for the 5070 prices to go up before it even launches
Instead of covid or inflation as an excuse, we got tariffs xd
tranquil pebble
Also likely means even less units made, and even more scalping
woven turret
2k for a GPU while I paid 1000 for the whole thing
tranquil pebble
cant wait for $10,000 consumer GPUs
woven turret
imagine selling your car for the RTX6090
tranquil pebble
Going to end up with used GPU dealerships
worthy meteor
For once it's going to be cheaper to buy computer parts in other countries lmfao
misty sparrow
RTX 90 series, your body becomes a battery
tranquil pebble
Matrix
tranquil pebble
RTX 90 series, your body becomes a battery
There is no spoon
nocturne flicker
Don't worry, they'll just make the gpus, a water intensive process, in a fab in the middle of the desert in Arizona. Surely nothing could go wrong there
craggy shoal
imagine selling your car for the RTX6090
My $2000 Ford Focus says otherwise
woven turret
My $2000 Ford Focus says otherwise
big oof
rancid juniper
yea for $3500
mortal grail
My $2000 Ford Focus says otherwise
Imagine appreciating slower than a graphics card
craggy shoal
Get more crackers
frigid stag
So Your focus is worth less than a 5090/ 4090
fresh timber
motor
craggy shoal
So Your focus is worth less than a 5090/ 4090
$2.1K but yeah something like that
frigid stag
fresh timber
ur broken
craggy shoal
motor
mortal grail
Motor is crackered
craggy shoal
How'd you know I’m white?
mortal grail
Lmao
woven turret
ah?
craggy shoal
I brokened :(
still sun
Do you know which SBC it is?
woven turret
did you sand blast the heads?
fresh timber
i did nothing but take the engine appartm an
idk what sbc is, im just follwing istructions
i was told, take it apaprt and attempt to put it back toghter
woven turret
Do you know which SBC it is?
Sensotronic Brake Control? that was a Mercedes thing in the early 2000s
still sun
@fresh timber here is my dads 350 in his Camaro, he just got it rebuilt
woven turret
i was told, take it apaprt and attempt to put it back toghter
"attempt"
still sun
I have a 350 in my Corvette but its much much tamer lol
craggy shoal
Motor can you tell me what my motor needs
Maybe
fresh timber
I have a 350 in my Corvette but its much much tamer lol
my dad has a c6 vette
still sun
1981 was not a good year for the chevy small block
woven turret
Motor can you tell me what my motor needs
probably 5w30
still sun
my dad has a c6 vette
Oh nice! I have a C3
fresh timber
Oh nice! I have a C3
race
fresh timber
*1981 was not a good year for the chevy small block*
small block go kaboom
fresh timber
all our engines went caboom
craggy shoal
I want a C6 before TikTok kids overrate it
fresh timber
and non will run
craggy shoal
Bruh a Miata would've been super obtainable if TT kids didn’t ruin it
rancid juniper
I want a C6 before TikTok kids overrate it
i played the heck outta that car in forza motorsport 3
woven turret
currently running 5w40 but I should use 10w40 because...
rancid juniper
😂
rancid juniper
currently running 5w40 but I should use 10w40 because...
BMW JUMPSCARE
craggy shoal
Cheapest one near me last I checked was a salvage title for $10K. AN NA MIATA LIKE WTF
fresh timber
i wanna get this car as my first car
woven turret
BMW JUMPSCARE
its got cute puppy face
fresh timber
craggy shoal
currently running 5w40 but I should use 10w40 because...
If it leaks oil, it has oil
craggy shoal
Dream project car fr
woven turret
If it leaks oil, it has oil
all I can say is, it has oil
still sun
@fresh timber any pictures of that C6?
fresh timber
i got a video
mortal grail
My old E36 liked to tell me it had more oil over the course of the year vs the beginning
mortal grail
I never worked out what that was
woven turret
My old E36 liked to tell me it had more oil over the course of the year vs the b...
oil thinning, fuel is leaking in the motor oil
dangerous
rancid juniper
its got cute puppy face
✅
fresh timber
Drove it to my friends house, he wanted photos
mortal grail
Got bought by a collector
woven turret
Drove it to my friends house, he wanted photos
damn daniel
fresh timber
i <4 vcst
still sun
Dream Corvette is either a black or burgundy 69 with a 427, and side pipes
mortal grail
That a C2 innit
mortal grail
Oh I didn't know they went back that far
mortal grail
still sun
Probably within the month
dusk knot
Hm
fresh timber
mhh
im doing an expirment, how long i can run my pc until i bluesceen or have a problem i have to reboot for
rancid juniper
Ryzen efficiency
fresh timber
bro's 13600k probably hovering around 150w+
good ting i dont pay for eletricty nore car how much i use
mortal grail
Was talking about my KS but alright
fresh timber
ryzen and intel, good combo
mortal grail
Lol
rancid juniper
i could definitely undervolt more but im sticking with 5.2GHZ @ 1.095v
velvet summit
i might have found one of the worst electrical setups somebody has in their unit
one breaker for the entire house
fresh timber
rn i at 68w
rancid juniper
Was talking about my KS but alright
really?
mortal grail
i might have found one of the worst electrical setups somebody has in their unit
Let me guess, no electricity at all
fresh timber
im not using too mcuh
rancid juniper
nope
velvet summit
they trip the breaker by running an air fryer in the kitchen and their pc in their bedroom
rancid juniper
process lasso?
mortal grail
Ye
rancid juniper
man i feel lazy
fresh timber
i stopped using it
rancid juniper
lmao
fresh timber
i let windows do what ever now
fresh timber
i dont
rancid juniper
but i doubt that app ever works
fresh timber
if i cared about efficency id buy ryzen
fresh timber
if i close evreything i can go down to 10w idle
fresh timber
go to windowago to linux? i bet ill be at 8-9
well rn i have a little more than normal open rn
rancid juniper
And it's free
DAYUM
fresh timber
8 days worth of not closing anything
rancid juniper
not bad
mortal grail
DAYUM
Yeah if you want something that's better than APO cos you can set the values manually it's good
Just don't try anti cheat games with that
Anticheat hates lasso
rancid juniper
for each... and every... PROGRAM
fresh timber
i need to buy a 14700k now
rancid juniper
✨multiple✨
😳😳😳
rancid juniper
i need to buy a 14700k now
na dont