general-chat

[mortal grail]

Oh

Yeah good plan tbh

60 series won't fumble like this

[dusk knot]

It won’t

[mortal grail]

@devout forum

https://vxtwitter.com/GeForce_JacobF/status/1882434935920992564

4080S

[devout forum]

DP80 ig

[devout forum]

Eyo

[rancid juniper]

Meh

Even more ai focused

Raster be gone

[mortal grail]

I'm looking forward to dlss 4 tbh

[sweet phoenix]

I was planning to upgrade with 9000 series, but im happy w the 2080 ti

Im waiting another 2 years as well

definitely not because I'm broke

[mortal grail]

I'm actually genuinely surprised at myself saying this, dlss 4 looks genuinely good. It's not worth buying 50 series over though

[north crescent]

Dont worry, 60 series will just be fumbled more

[mortal grail]

AMD needs an answer to dlss 4

[misty sparrow]

feels like a pretty minor improvement

[gusty quartz]

Nothing ever stops someone from doing things when they’re broke

[sweet phoenix]

Just wait for the arc C580

[mortal grail]

Or I might shift and pivot to nvidia more

[sweet phoenix]

It'll match the 5080 at $400

[mortal grail]

Given my experience with RT it's a big improvement

That's a massive change

Whether rt matters or not is another argument

[rancid juniper]

I'm waiting till
-Nvidia 9-10k (unlikely)
-Amd Radeon UDNA 3 or something
-intel arc F series

My 7800xt is good enough

[sweet phoenix]

Im just wondering how good value the 9070xt and 9070 will be

[mortal grail]

I think RDNA 4 might be the last good uptick

[mortal grail]

Yeah the real question now

Got no doubt the 50 series cards will be mid

[rancid juniper]

All that and no flagship

What a shame

[misty sparrow]

I'm with the consensus that RT doesn't really add much to games. Sure it's kind of fancy and after seeing it for the first time on my PS5 it allowed me to notice certain reflections in the real world, but still....not really worth the performance drop in my opinion

[north crescent]

While less blurrier, it is also making it brighter. Which kinda makes it not so like for like comparison

[mortal grail]

I agree. That said tech that makes it much better to run makes it interesting

[mortal grail]

Yes this is considered a proper rt uplift

[misty sparrow]

Yeah, something that was previously only possible on studio workstations and CGI stuff is now available to consumers and that's pretty cool

Or was that path tracing I don't know

[mortal grail]

Better ray reflections is definitively better rt, even if it's supersampled

[devout forum]

Y'know I'mma be honest

[icy ore]

Xbox showcase rn

[devout forum]

I feel like I have to upgrade from my 6700XT

[rancid juniper]

I believe until RT is "playable" in competitive oriented titles is when it finally matured

[mortal grail]

Both tbh and yeah, it's cool tech

[devout forum]

Tho it might only be my monitor making it feel worse than it is

[mortal grail]

Definitely

[devout forum]

Idfk

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

Nah don't, that GPU surprisingly still kicks ass at 1440p

[mortal grail]

Still an amazing card

[misty sparrow]

Me personally I believe that until consoles can figure out a way to get it running without capping the framerate to 30FPS is when it's finally matured

[gusty quartz]

Hi theo ❤️

[devout forum]

Again it's possible that my display is just souring my experience

[north crescent]

If devs had proper time for optimization like a few console generations ago, we likely could

But games are too bloated and timelines are too short, so optimization dieded

[sweet phoenix]

Any of yall know wii emulation? Just wondering if there's anything specific compatibility wise for a wii sensor bar and a windows emulation build

Or if any random wii USB sensor works

[north crescent]

Sensor bar is just IR light, actual sensor is in the Wii motes

[misty sparrow]

in HL2's developer commentary Valve said they noticed an error with GPU drivers or something that made physics calculations run bad, so they reached out to NVIDIA & ATI to get that fixed

Devs these days won't do optimization like that lmao

[sweet phoenix]

Im sorry I'm not sure what this means

[rancid juniper]

Would've been a possibility now

[gusty quartz]

They likely did. New tech is usually issued to devs years before it hits the consumer. With the length up time game creation takes, they are based on last gens hardware

[mortal grail]

[rancid juniper]

Convenience is the issue at play here

Because of that aim of ease of use and powerful hardware, they think it can just magically do the rest

[mortal grail]

@dusk knot

Rofl

[devout forum]

That's heinous

[rancid juniper]

I showed that yesterday to JP, bro was appalled

[misty sparrow]

The actual tracking sensors are inside the wii remotes themselves, the sensor bar just emits the IR tracking light for the wii remote's sensors to pick up

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[north crescent]

Basically the Sensor Bar only needs power. There is no data being transfered from the bar to a device. Despite it being called a Sensor Bar, it has no sensor. So the bar compatible with anything that provides the correct voltage/amperage, which is basically any USB port iirc.

[gusty quartz]

Damn, that’s like a month’s salary maybe a little more

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[misty sparrow]

So you can theoretically light two candles and have wii remotes work that way

[sweet phoenix]

Got it thank you

[sweet phoenix]

And you too

[devout forum]

If we even get any 5090s
They'll START at 2 million HUF

Which is like a NICE used car price

[rancid juniper]

Someone would buy it

🤔

[devout forum]

The 4090 started at 700k HUF crawling up to 1.1m

[sweet phoenix]

Judging by the best seller for wii remotes on amazon being a random brand, brand doesn't matter for controllers either?

[devout forum]

This is actual insanity
Not to mention that Hungary is a Tier 2 country for the restrictions from the US

So we're only allowed to get a small percentage of cards to begin with

[misty sparrow]

I'd suggest getting official controllers but you can use any USB sensor bar

[sweet phoenix]

Hm any reason why? I'll go check ebay

[misty sparrow]

I've personally had bad luck with third-party stuff made for old consoles like the Wii

The official ones I've had are decades old and still work perfectly

[north crescent]

While Im not too into the Wii stuff specifically, esp the remotes side, I imagine it's more about the model than brand for compatibility. You said this was for emulation right?

[hushed bolt]

Everyday its like theres a new problem with my pc man..

[sweet phoenix]

Yeah

[north crescent]

Is it only for emulation?

[sweet phoenix]

The pcs going to be used for Playstation and wii emulation specifically, down the line maybe other games as well

The wii remotes and sensor bar yeah specifically emulation

[north crescent]

I dont have answers, but that will be a important point here. On average, emulation stuff will have way better support for third party things. Prolly look at whatever software you're looking into, see if you can get them redditor info for third party support

[sweet phoenix]

Wait I also just realized I'm emulating the switch, wii controllers probably won't work for that

[nocturne flicker]

One day ps3 emulation will be capable of smooth 60fps

[mortal grail]

Soon phones will do ps3

I will await this day

[sweet phoenix]

The only reason I'm doing this is i got a whole 3400g/1650 build for "free" (i gave my friend parts for their build,) and I figured my neice/nephew would have fun with Nintendo games and as they get older others

[proud jackal]

Time to go into debt

[mortal grail]

$2800 seems okay right

Astral oc

Right

[proud jackal]

It's going to be $3100 after taxes for me

[mortal grail]

And how much was the 4090 again

[fresh timber]

Msrp or how much you could buy it for

[mortal grail]

For me the suprim was about 1750 after tax

[icy ore]

Doom ooooof

[mortal grail]

I got a really good price for it

[unreal trail]

[proud jackal]

$0.00

[mortal grail]

Damn

[mortal grail]

Yeah but your other one

[proud jackal]

Oh, like what uhhh, $100-200 in tax

[mortal grail]

And how much in rrp

[proud jackal]

Also $0.00

[mortal grail]

You did not get 2

What

[proud jackal]

_>

[rancid juniper]

Free 4090?

[fresh timber]

I want a 5090

[mortal grail]

[rancid juniper]

How low can you undervolt a 7900xtx?

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-gta-5-gta-laggy-laggy-gta-gta-meme-gif-10502586781716230489

[proud jackal]

@mortal grail this is why i said id feel bad if I didn't buy a 5090

[rancid juniper]

16.4???

BUGATTI VEYRON 16.4

[mortal grail]

You'd be paying for both 4090's ig

[fresh timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210600807011979387/1264847900845015131/speechmemified_pasteimage.gif

[mortal grail]

As low as the sample lets you

The slider goes to like 700mv iirc

[misty sparrow]

This is true for GTA4 still

[proud jackal]

Anyone want to buy a still new in box 3060 from me

[misty sparrow]

yes

how much

[proud jackal]

It's against the rules

To sell in this server

[mortal grail]

Wtf mod baiting

[proud jackal]

[mortal grail]

Naht demote theo

[misty sparrow]

we joke about it all the time

[nocturne flicker]

It isn't selling if given freely

[sinful blade]

@ nahtuhlay

[misty sparrow]

i remember responding with "tree fitty" to every time it happens

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-australia-upside-down-gif-26847241

[worthy meteor]

Entrapment smh

[fresh timber]

For free yess

Mods are entrapping us

Ban them

[nocturne flicker]

Buy with Weggcoin

[proud jackal]

@rigid sinew they want to ban me they bullying me

[mortal grail]

Theo I'm cashing in all my theo coins after all these years

How much is the 3060 worth in theo coins

[fresh timber]

She’s sick

lol

[proud jackal]

It's okay

She can still ban you

[fresh timber]

Are you making fun of the less fortunate??

[proud jackal]

999,999

[fresh timber]

So $0.01

[nocturne flicker]

That's the European , so it is actually 999.999

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-thats-mine-gif-13637000

[fresh timber]

HawkTUAH coin

[mortal grail]

Thankfully I have 3x that for 3 years of service

1 3060 pls

[unreal trail]

imagine making your game xbox exclusibe

[fresh timber]

Xbox exclusive means it works on pc which means idc

[mortal grail]

Jesus cpu bottlenecks make blackwell look horrible for power

[fresh timber]

Don’t pay ur power bill

[mortal grail]

Wtf nyoom

[worthy meteor]

Fsr vs no dlss or?

[devout forum]

268 watts for a 4080???

Yo hold up

[mortal grail]

"Dlss quality"

[devout forum]

I never knew it was this good

An actually efficient GPU in 2025?

How is that allowed?

[mortal grail]

Ada had great efficiency

[devout forum]

And the 4080 is probably set up in the efficiency curve sweet spot

[mortal grail]

It's very easy to pull less power on ada vs rdna 3

[devout forum]

Cuz that's a hella impressive power draw

[worthy meteor]

Very fun

[devout forum]

270 watts???

Sign me the F UP

[mortal grail]

Yeah man

Flash a vbios and yeet it to 450

[devout forum]

Why would I???

[mortal grail]

Then you'll probably get 5080-ish perf

[devout forum]

I don't wanna throw out that efficiency

[mortal grail]

Eh alr ig

[devout forum]

270 watts heat vs 450

That's not nothing

[worthy meteor]

Ada is just ampere if ampere didn't stuff as much power as they could into the card

[mortal grail]

5080 in a nutshell +mfg tho

Lol

[devout forum]

Not to mention I can actually survive the summer with ~300 watts of GPU heat being kicked into my room

450 would be kinda insane

[mortal grail]

Hey I live

I got 600W pumping into my room when gaming

[worthy meteor]

I'm waiting for the power limited testing to look at 50xx like they did to 3090 back then

[devout forum]

You do have AC tho

Iirc

I don't and my room is TINY

[worthy meteor]

I'm guessing 5090 will be able to match 4090 draw with like 20% gains instead of 30%

[mortal grail]

I leave it off most of the time to save power

[devout forum]

Even then

[mortal grail]

I've read it's a lot worse

[worthy meteor]

Wait for winter

[mortal grail]

Closer to 10% or less

[devout forum]

That efficiency is really impressive
320 watts tops power draw is really nice

[worthy meteor]

I haven't looked at many reviews so far, just looked at GN

I'll go check

[mortal grail]

All good, I've been contexting a lot of stuff

[devout forum]

You can probably get away with a 650w for a 4080 if you don't use 13/14th gen

[mortal grail]

I saw that in a random post

I don't remember where

[mortal grail]

Yes, I've been suggesting this for a while now

Just 650W in good measure is rare cos you don't want to skimp quality

[devout forum]

That's kinda crazy

My own EVGA G6 would probably BARELY not be enough

Tho 90% power limit and it'd probably be just fine

Drop in upgrade lel

[mortal grail]

How many watts

[devout forum]

650

[mortal grail]

It'll do it

Just leave pbo off preferably

[fresh nova]

Oh boy

[mortal grail]

It could do pbo on but I think it's skating it a bit

[devout forum]

I mean fair

[devout forum]

I run a -25 undervolt on PBO iirc

[worthy meteor]

Basically the card is not power limited at all rn lmao

[devout forum]

It might not actually apply tbf

Cuz the mobo is ass

[mortal grail]

You can do the math pretty easily, 270W ± ~40% is approx. 378W
7700X with pbo is like, 150W? ± 50% so 225W

Which is about 650W

Again, skating it

[devout forum]

But a slight undervolt with a 7600X and it'd likely work out

[mortal grail]

I would rather do pbo off

Then vbios flash the 4080s

Better overall perf

[devout forum]

You mean giving it more juice?

Or what

[mortal grail]

Ye

[devout forum]

Cuz again I don't feel like it needs more than 320 to do what I want it to

[worthy meteor]

Btw the power draw is looking a lot higher from other reviewers

[mortal grail]

You likely won't do the full 450

But you could probably do 350 and get near 5080 render

So kinda better result tbh

Especially when ryzen is ram limited not core clock

[rancid juniper]

Alr

[devout forum]

Tbf the nCore 100 MAX gas a 450w native 12vhpwr cable

[mortal grail]

Not surprised given everything we know

[devout forum]

So I can actually do just that...

Combine with a 7700X at start and move to a 9800X3D when stock and price permits

[mortal grail]

If it has native then you can exclude transients to a good extent cos it's in atx 3.0+ spec

[devout forum]

It'd be a competent setup in that monolith case

[mortal grail]

So yeah 450W would likely work just fine

[devout forum]

It's a custom cable specifically for it

So it's gotta be native

[mortal grail]

That's native lmao

[devout forum]

I'd tear my hair out if it wasn't

Lemme check the PSU in it

[mortal grail]

I'd just go straight to x3d

Don't middle ground it

Selling used is a pain

[worthy meteor]

I'm really curious how 5080 is going to go considering the tbp for that didn't go up much

[devout forum]

V SFX Gold 850W ATX 3.0
Def native

So based

[worthy meteor]

4090 tbp was listed at 450w, 5090 tbp is listed as 575w. 4080 tbp is listed at 320w, 5080 tbp is listed at 360w

[mortal grail]

Is why I'm saying adding a vbios flash to a 4080S will ruin any chance of a 5080 being better at native to any reasonable capacity

[devout forum]

Sister can inherit the 7700X

[mortal grail]

We've seen the core count changes, there's nothing there

Gddr7 is a minor bump

But a tdp bump will make it look better

It's not

[devout forum]

Wouldn't be selling it
Besides the mobo I'm eyeing doesn't have bios flashback so I'd need a CPU to update BIOS anyway

[mortal grail]

Same power they will be very similar I feel

[mortal grail]

You said that about the 7600X

And I remembered this

[devout forum]

-# Tho there is a 7600X that I'm using rn, I can temp borrow that before handing it off

[mortal grail]

Uh huh

[devout forum]

It's the price that's an issue

[worthy meteor]

I mean it's going to be very close in benches if that's true

That's a tiny bump for 5080

[devout forum]

X3D = expensive as hell

Like nearly double the price of a 7700X

It's actual pain

[mortal grail]

Gddr7 with the bit bus is your ultimate deciding factor. If that doesn't amount to anything it's just lipstick on a pig

And remember

They discontinued 4080/4090

Hint hint

[worthy meteor]

5090 doesn't look good rn but I haven't seen power limited 5090 benches yet

But yea it's just refresh

[mortal grail]

They discontinued the older, competitive stock

[rancid juniper]

Intel moment nvidia

[mortal grail]

That's a big hint

I don't think even ampere had that from memory

I recall the 90 cards but not 80 or lower

[worthy meteor]

Unfortunately last gen used prices isn't good rn

[mortal grail]

Either way at this stage I'm very confident vbios flashing a 4080/S to a high tdp will get you competitive to at least 5080 reference

[devout forum]

They're okay for me oddly enough

[mortal grail]

I'm not certain

But I'm already convinced it's very likely

Given what the 5090 demonstrated

[devout forum]

Like the only reason I'm only ever even debating to go with a 4080 is that they are now ALMOST below my mental limit on what is acceptable to spend on a GPU for me

[worthy meteor]

I'm just guessing that it'll still be 10% gains with power being limited

[mortal grail]

I'm about there too, maybe a bit less

5%

[worthy meteor]

But I don't know if it'll end up there in benches or not

[mortal grail]

I don't see more than this

But hey I can be wrong

[worthy meteor]

Do you remember who did the power limited 3090 testing?

I can't seem to find it

[mortal grail]

Roman?

[worthy meteor]

Maybe lemme check

[devout forum]

But yeah, I'm fairly sure a 4080 would serve me right for many years

[worthy meteor]

I just remember it was in German

[devout forum]

Especially when only playing at 1440p

[devout forum]

The Thermal Grizzly guy

Almost guaranteed

[cerulean mirage]

i think I'm going to try to get yag surgery follow up on my first cataract eye surgery there's still some cataract there. I'm going to do the most i can to get my astronomy vision back

[devout forum]

Whatever his name is

[mortal grail]

Roman said in his review he's testing power targets tomorrow

[worthy meteor]

Wait I'm pretty sure it was computerbase.de

[mortal grail]

Good luck man

[mortal grail]

Could be

[cerulean mirage]

thanks

[worthy tapir]

I have people steal the dummy prepaid phones all the time

[devout forum]

All the best @cerulean mirage

[cerulean mirage]

thanks

[worthy meteor]

They did it with 5090 too :D

[devout forum]

@mortal grail It's funny how the turn tables
With the 7900XT becoming worse value than a 4080 with how prices developed

Cuz used 7900 XTs are pretty close to used 4080 pricing

[worthy meteor]

Almost 20% gains at the same power limit

That's what I was expecting considering the core count bump plus vram and everything else

[mortal grail]

Yep

But this is the only complex sku

Big core bump, lower clock however, gddr7 and a bigger bit bus though

This won't be representative of the other skus which are minor core bumps and only tensor changes

[worthy meteor]

Yea, I'm guessing closer to 10% again without the core count bumps and at same power

[mortal grail]

Maybe there they are, but in the US a $600 7900XT was insane, and used was even more wild

Near 4080 raster for $610

Like ridiculous

[mortal grail]

At best I'd say yeah, cos bit buses are the same which is...yikes

[worthy meteor]

GRE being gone is annoying, and I never found an actual $600 7900xt :(

[mortal grail]

It got really close to 600

[worthy meteor]

It was all random Chinese sellers on Amazon when I was looking

[mortal grail]

I remember 610 or thereabouts

[worthy meteor]

I was trying to get a 7900xt before this gen for a while

Never got a good enough deal to warrant buying

[devout forum]

Like THIS IS WHAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH

Compared to the 370k for a 4080S

And that is THE ONLY 7900 XT available

The blue price means it's supposedly agreed on being sold, awaiting exchange

So that Nitro+ is probably not available for 350k

[worthy meteor]

Personally I'm a bit skeptical that there will be much gains from gddr7 and I'm looking for slightly better cores for the perf

[mortal grail]

I went and checked all the skus, $619.99 was the lowest

[worthy meteor]

The lowest I personally saw was 650 iirc

[mortal grail]

285 for that tbh is really compelling for that much less

[worthy meteor]

Around 2 months ago

[mortal grail]

Ye 2 months ago it was I believe an xfx for $619.99

Black friday

[worthy meteor]

Wasn't that the Amazon crap one

[devout forum]

It's a reference card so like
Eeeeeehh

[mortal grail]

The pulse was $624.99

[worthy meteor]

I was looking during Black Friday

[mortal grail]

No

These were real cards

[worthy meteor]

One of them looked fine on the surface but had a weird seller

[devout forum]

I'm not very fond of AMD reference cards ngl

[mortal grail]

Multiple cards

[worthy meteor]

Was the pulse the one that was on back order at b&h?

The deal disappeared where it actually came in stock lol

[mortal grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7dNxFT/xfx-speedster-merc-310-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx-79tmercu9

I remember this one was fulfilled by newegg

[worthy meteor]

I guess I missed that one

Don't remember seeing that

[mortal grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3BQcCJ/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-11323-02-20g

That's newegg direct

[velvet summit]

[worthy meteor]

That looks right, I wasn't looking to buy one before black Friday lol

[mortal grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v2qPxr/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-pg-20go

The best XT as well

Another 620

I knew it was VERY low for a bit there

Very good buy

[mortal grail]

It's noisy but works is the thing. The XTX is the real noisemaker

It's not bad, electrically identical to aibs

[devout forum]

I guess that's fair

Just a me thing

Then again

[worthy meteor]

I probably shouldn't have waited for black Friday for deals to buy anything lmao

[devout forum]

4080 looking really spicy rn

[mortal grail]

Lol I am fairly sure there were these on black friday too tho

Maybe not those specifically but 7900XT

[worthy meteor]

They were sold out or back order the day of

[mortal grail]

I really remember this cos I pushed many people to buy them

Yeah they were

[worthy meteor]

The 625 listing I remember for sure was back order

[mortal grail]

They moved off the shelves

Ye

It was a good buy ofc

Hell

Even if the 9070XT hits at 599

You barely improve with that

That 620 7900XT was really good

[worthy meteor]

I'm just sitting until 5070/9070xt reviews now

I'm most likely going to buy one of them

If they don't end up being crap

[unreal trail]

send help

[worthy meteor]

?

[icy ore]

[dusk knot]

Love how you can just connect these together

[chrome mirage]

My brother got grounded from gaming so I replaced the 1660ti in the family computer with a gt330

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-3-karma-lost-you-lost-karma-evil-devil-gif-4805527646804962655

[dusk knot]

Lmao. What a punishment

[chrome mirage]

He's been lying, stealing, doing drugs, and damaging property. He's 14 and none of the punishments we've done have worked

[misty sparrow]

you're joking right?

[chrome mirage]

Nope

[misty sparrow]

he should be punished more than just from gaming

at that point if he's lying, stealing, doing drugs, etc

send him to military school or something

[chrome mirage]

Parents don't punish him the way I was punished because he's a foster kid

They only ban him from games for one night

[rancid juniper]

global illumination: Ultra

most gpus: ☠️

[chrome mirage]

I bought him a good gaming mouse for Christmas and he traded it for vapes

[misty sparrow]

where do kids like him even get vapes from

[misty sparrow]

it's probably too easy to get

for kids

[chrome mirage]

Probably from the grade 12 girls that were giving him weed

[chrome mirage]

What settings are you running?

[rancid juniper]

1440p ultra - Native resolution

[chrome mirage]

That's what I usually run too. Get well over 100fps on my 7900XTX

Get 13fps with path tracing on at 1440p native

[rancid juniper]

lol those features aint worth it, game already looks good as is

[chrome mirage]

I find the tone of the colors looks a lot better with path tracing

I can get decent frame rates with xess quality

[rancid juniper]

👍

[reef grove]

DO A BURNOUT

sorry caps was an accident

[rancid juniper]

i lost my bike 😔

[idle nexus]

dude

5090 is a monster

1% lows were tying 4090's average frame rate

[rancid juniper]

A monster in ripping your wallet to shreds

[idle nexus]

absolute wallet decimation

[fresh timber]

I got a call hoping it was a job calling me, nope just robo call

[idle nexus]

hard to argue it's not worth it tho sadly

[rancid juniper]

me after the 9745123rd scam likely call:

[idle nexus]

lol more proof the future sucks

[fresh timber]

😦

Some kid tried flexing his license on me, so I pulled out $400

Flip out of here

[idle nexus]

I messed with it for a little while again last night & uh, I'm starting to worry that my 13900KS can't actually do 58x all-core anymore for real

[rancid juniper]

@reef grove burnout van

[fresh timber]

Me trying to run 5.6 on 13600kf

[idle nexus]

once upon a time it could do 60x all-core on some benchmarks

heck I remember running 58x relatively easily on Z690 Unify-X when it was new

[fresh timber]

lol

[idle nexus]

lol I really gotta RMA it for real

I can't RMA my 13600K because I bought it second hand

I wonder which of those two is more borked at this point

[fresh timber]

I wonder if I could get a 14600kf

[idle nexus]

RMA it

given the whole debacle, it's probably easy to get approved

my problem is I delidded

[fresh timber]

Yes my perfectly working cpu isn’t working intel 😉

I just can’t be bothered with down time

[idle nexus]

get a g7400 or something for a week lol

[fresh timber]

I could borrow a 12600k from a friend

I would have to game on that kek

Ooo excuse to upgrade my server and use the windows vm

[idle nexus]

still terrible at $51 OBO? I wonder if they'd accept like $40 lol https://www.ebay.com/itm/186904886316?

[idle nexus]

I wonder what 12100F runs used

[fresh timber]

I got my 2300x and ram for $40

lol

[idle nexus]

$60ish

[reef grove]

Honestly I’m more of a van man than a bike guy anyway.

[idle nexus]

mod CyberPunk

[rancid juniper]

lol i hit all the checkboxes then

[idle nexus]

1969 Boss 302 > Van

[fresh timber]

Would buying a “broken” 14900k and turning it into a 14700k be a funny idea

Disable a few e cores, lower frequency, call it a day

[idle nexus]

I mean... kinda sounds like a waste of money but if you want to, go for it lol

[fresh timber]

Depends on price ngl

We shall wait for them to be dirt cheap

[idle nexus]

or this https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/14702

[reef grove]

only mustangs I like are fox body

[reef grove]

and some older ones. but all the ones after fox body are so ugly imo

[idle nexus]

thanks. I'll go outside & let my car know lol

[reef grove]

oh now I'm embarassed, please don't tell her.

[idle nexus]

original suggestion then https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/13650

lol what car do you like then

[reef grove]

timeless. can't go wrong

[idle nexus]

I'd trade my car for that in a heartbeat ya lol

[reef grove]

I tend to like more odd ball cars. Hard for me to pick just one. Probably just an old Porsche 911

or a gt3 rs

[fresh timber]

Hellcat

[idle nexus]

oh so the one you get from Keanu Reeves in the game anyway? lol

[chrome mirage]

@reef grove haven't seen you in a while

[reef grove]

really? lol, I've never played cyberpunk

[idle nexus]

oh I thought you were playing rn

my bad

[reef grove]

I don't pop in often but someone replied to my comment from 4 years ago yesterday, so here I am

[reef grove]

I just like cars. lol

[chrome mirage]

Well I have to get back to work but nice seeing you again

[idle nexus]

close as they get

[reef grove]

I saw this today on 290 on my way to Michigan. Right hand drive. Nissan Stagea. Posted on a local car spotters group and learned it’s a sleeper build with over 1,000hp

[reef grove]

Don’t work too hard!

[idle nexus]

lol damn

[reef grove]

I almost rear ended like 3 people trying to figure out what it was

I love wagons so it drew my attention right away. Thought it was like a late 90s Subaru or something at first

[idle nexus]

imagine how underestimated that car is at a drag strip

so it's @rancid juniper who needs to learn how to mod CyberPunk then

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[chrome mirage]

I'm working later than the other guys and my coworker did half my shift for me so I think I'll have an easy day

[idle nexus]

Vortex mod manager makes it pretty easy tbh

[rancid juniper]

someday ill get to modding that game

[mortal grail]

The 4080 > 4090 does this too

[rancid juniper]

just not now

[mortal grail]

It's not anything to write home about

[reef grove]

yes

[reef grove]

i would love to see that thing run

[idle nexus]

it's just a pretty substantial improvement... or I guess typical generational improvement

[mortal grail]

I mean

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-challenger-burnout-gif-26319485

[reef grove]

are you in the military, or a drug dealer?

[idle nexus]

if better cars can't convince you what about

[reef grove]

I thought those were the only people who bought chargers/challengers

[reef grove]

make it hello kitty and i'm sold

[mortal grail]

You forgot 2nd hand car salesmen

[reef grove]

https://tenor.com/view/lilmariko-hellokitty-glock-hello-kitty-meow-shoot-gun-pew-pewpew-hi-gif-27122964

[fresh timber]

I’m black

[reef grove]

3 payments behind, but has a Gucci belt and fresh fade

[reef grove]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-thatll-work-that-works-thatll-do-the-job-thats-good-spacestation-gaming-gif-15451536

[fresh timber]

I have a 60% interest rate and a 250 credit score

[mortal grail]

3 year old iphone but he "paid a good price for it"

Fake hugo boss shirt

"hugo bass"

[reef grove]

I'm white and drive a prius.

if the shoe fits

.<

[reef grove]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-i-know-that-feel-bro-pikachu-gif-15485156

[reef grove]

fake polo shirt, its a donkey not a horse

Bro got the new Air Jordan Gyatts

[idle nexus]

well... you can lead a horse to water lol

[reef grove]

I just started playing Delta Force and know nothing about it. It seems its just a chinese version of CoD Warzone?

[mortal grail]

😂😂

[reef grove]

not enough pink or hello kitty

[fresh timber]

i want hellokitty [ppc

but i need to replaece all my fans and i dont wanna

[reef grove]

this case is goated

[lone mango]

Bro these 5090 gains are nuts

[rancid juniper]

MEH

unless its a nuke

[lone mango]

Often its 0.1% lows will match the 4090 average

[rancid juniper]

cute

FINALLY

[lone mango]

I was waiting for the new one to update

I downloaded the december one pretty late and decided to wait

[rancid juniper]

oh my BRUH

[lone mango]

Didnt want to update twice so I waited

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[misty sparrow]

i like this one better

[lone mango]

Sometimes even exceeds it

[misty sparrow]

same vibes as it, but i think hot wheels > hello kitty

[rancid juniper]

IT BRINGS ISSUES

😡

[lone mango]

Brutal

Those issues dont apply to me so ima still do it

[rancid juniper]

oh wow it IS close

[velvet summit]

i found out that fakespot can analyze steam game reviews

[lone mango]

Im still using a tp link router could i just do openwrt and call it a day

[velvet summit]

if it's supported

[lone mango]

Yeah it is

[velvet summit]

the SOC also matters a bit but if it's supported, it probably will be fine at least for the basic features

[lone mango]

Its genuinely a good router it just has the backdoor firmware

[lone mango]

It uses a 3 core broadcom i forgot the name but its supported

[mortal grail]

Why do people keep saying this???

The 4090 smashed the 3090 average

It's not an amazing difference

It's worse LOL

[lone mango]

True but its better than I thought

[mortal grail]

I mean ok, but remember the price tag lol

[lone mango]

Not as big as the 4090 leap but considering what they did, it worked out well imo

Right, but it has more vram too

Its not as crazy as the 4090 but its sitll better than what I expected

[mortal grail]

Mmmmmmm

It's a leap true

The prices ruin it for me tho

[velvet summit]

SUS

[mortal grail]

$2200 expected for the closest aib

[lone mango]

Yeah I was thinking this when I was watching gn earlier, it is around that much better but costs that much more so its like the same

[nocturne flicker]

Keep in mind this is before price explosion due to laughably low stock

[mortal grail]

Ye

[lone mango]

Right

[mortal grail]

Mb for snapping

I just

So many people are saying the 4090 5090 thing

[lone mango]

5090 got bro bugging

[mortal grail]

[lone mango]

[nocturne flicker]

Laughably low stock and upcoming tariffs

[mortal grail]

It genuinely is cos just contextualised it like it's apparently good

[rancid juniper]

5090 got felix becoming a sun

[mortal grail]

Lmfao

[mortal grail]

I am sun

(What tf he talkin about??)

[rancid juniper]

needs cooling

[mortal grail]

Tbh I need food

Ngl

Hahaha

[nocturne flicker]

Explosive and filled with violent reactions

[mortal grail]

I've been reading reviews for hours

[lone mango]

I still like the 4090 more though, that lauch just hit diff

[rancid juniper]

you're not you when hungry

[lone mango]

I remember optimums video on it

[mortal grail]

I'm very concluded on how bad this new gen is but I'm learning the finer details

[rancid juniper]

imma take a guess that optimus is glazing the 5090 rn

🤔

[mortal grail]

He put it in an sff

(again)

[rancid juniper]

LOL

[mortal grail]

He's had like, 30 "endgame" sff builds since the 4090 released

[lone mango]

It can fit why not

[mortal grail]

I like his content tho

[lone mango]

He did say he wants to see how it will affect thermals

[mortal grail]

I ain't really judgin it's just amusing how unsettled he is

[lone mango]

Wait I think that was tech yes nvm

[mortal grail]

And how much fun playing shots on his channel when he mentions "endgame" is

[rancid juniper]

almost forgot about tech yes, watched him ages ago

[lone mango]

Fr bro same

[mortal grail]

Isn't he the guy that regretted buying a 9900K

[mortal grail]

More like tech oh no city

Ok ima eat

💀

[lone mango]

Same I did some deep pause squats today

[nocturne flicker]

It's like actual Endgame. The final entry of a series with 30 or so awkward stagglers that exist because they have to

[lone mango]

Red gaming made a video about this yesterday and he thinks they didnt launch now because what they are competing against is launching around that time too

In that context it makes sense

Because they are still playing the game of how high can they push the price while still undercutting nvidia

So yeah that actually does make sense

If they do a tiny undercut then nvidia might do the same

[rancid juniper]

wow

[lone mango]

I think its goofy though. They should just take a slightly larger hit and undercut a little more since that guy said they want more market share

Launch it $450 and do some marketing, people should snatch it up fr

Oh I take this back, the 5070 is 550 so the leak saying 480 ref and 530 aib is actually good

I thought the 5070 was 500. Nobody would buy amd to save $20

[rancid juniper]

LOL

[lone mango]

Damn I mean they could launch that $480 rn and be swimming

$70 undercut kinda big since fsr4 lowkey good

[dusk knot]

The wires are on the side. What the.

[lone mango]

I wonder if amd drivers for linux updated already

Also ge proton 9-23 came out about a week ago I should try that

[lone mango]

Yeah I think thats called flex

Wait nvm hold on

Thats called corsair shift

Works well for some configs

Guy in jays video said the more you skip this generation the more you save lmaooo

Ah man I forgot about the ugly packaging for the fe card

[dusk knot]

ATX12v1 is the CPU power delivery port right?

Usually the motherboard says CPU

💀

[fresh timber]

just buy it on ps5 kek~4

Mhh

Ooo

[dusk knot]

PC building is soo fun...

[fresh timber]

Build mines and include 4080

[dusk knot]

Also micro center people....they need better CS

Smh

[fresh timber]

I want cookie

[rancid juniper]

lol EZ win

[rancid juniper]

nah imma PC

[chrome mirage]

I wasn't a fan of that one. Like the first one and Miles Morales though

[rancid juniper]

Spiderman 2 was a mixed bag for most people despite it selling a lot of copies

[misty sparrow]

LETS GO

new doom game

[rancid juniper]

DOOMER: The Larp Ages

[misty sparrow]

why is it that a bunch of really cool games come out in may

historically

[cursive oasis]

is that doom: the dark ages

[misty sparrow]

yeah it is

[cursive oasis]

hell yeah

[fresh timber]

I’m hungry

Feed me

@misty sparrow

[misty sparrow]

no

[fresh timber]

But your pfp is soo yummy

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

[fresh timber]

who here plays bee swarm simulator

[junior willow]

Chat is my fan cooked

It's one of the three little cords in the fan cord if anyone doesn't know what they're looking at btw

[dusk knot]

That's just the rubber right?

Just get some electrical tape and call it a day lol

[junior willow]

It's one of the little wires

Like there's three, and one of them broke :(

But I'll separate it and put it back with some electric tape

[mortal grail]

That's a fat rip

[junior willow]

It's fine it'll buff out

I'll make it buff out because I am NOT buying more fans or so help me

[mortal grail]

Every fan I've done that to is dead

[junior willow]

DONT DO THAT

Ugh ig I'm out two fans then

[mortal grail]

Stop using a blade

[junior willow]

I DIDNT

[hoary zodiac]

Zoomer engineering

[junior willow]

I used a flathead screw driver

If I put my tongue on both ends of the wire would it conduct the energy

[mortal grail]

You know in Australia we call them blade screwdrivers

[junior willow]

And Australia used to be a prison island so that shows how much I should trust you guys

[mortal grail]

💀

[hoary zodiac]

No snags for you

[mortal grail]

I love this convo

[hoary zodiac]

Gen Z should collectively disown everyone born after 2006 and categorise them into Gen Alpha

[junior willow]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-tongue-laugh-flightreacts-flight-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-739589491343629007

Ngl tho, I might have two intakes on the top and an exhaust on the back

[hoary zodiac]

My god the rot

[fresh timber]

i agree

as a 2006 child, mad facts

[nocturne flicker]

I say everyone after 2005

[hoary zodiac]

everyone under 18 👍🏻

[mortal grail]

Disowning everyone under 25 would be pretty pog

[hoary zodiac]

I just realised I'm nearly 19

Christ I'm old

[sweet phoenix]

Im 2005 :D

[nocturne flicker]

K, after 2004

[sweet phoenix]

If you say 2004-

Welp

[nocturne flicker]

I'm disowning you son

Now I shall leave to get some milk, I'll be back

[fresh timber]

i turn 19 in stember...

[nocturne flicker]

stember

[fresh timber]

school frys my brain man

[hoary zodiac]

lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I thought you'd be older

[sweet phoenix]

Everyone says that

[hoary zodiac]

Lmao

[rancid juniper]

wow i am older than you

[worn wave]

Apparently DLSS4 transformer DLLs were released/leaked

[fresh timber]

wot

[worn wave]

lmao

[fresh timber]

that was me who sent that sus message

[hoary zodiac]

AHAHAHAH

[fresh timber]

IT THINKS IM A SPAMER

i know what happened too

[hoary zodiac]

How do you have custom messages like that

[worn wave]

https://www.naturl.link/XW1WSo
link shortened bc newegg has filter

[hoary zodiac]

I just have 1 ignored message

[hoary zodiac]

So 40 series owners win big time

[worn wave]

might be vencord thing

[fresh timber]

i copied and pasted the buttom message

[hoary zodiac]

Ah

[fresh timber]

then it decided i was hacked

discord stupid

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-pepper-drink-miki-matsubara-city-pop-dance-gif-16889600

[hoary zodiac]

@opaque sedge You might be interested in what DLSS 4 adds

[fresh timber]

upgrade fsr

[deep parcel]

you should check your standing

probably just limited

[velvet summit]

waow

[fresh timber]

mines is good

they just think i got hacked

[deep parcel]

wack

[nocturne flicker]

Get that premium, high quality crack

[fresh timber]

im limited kek~4 but its lifted in 5 mins

but it doenst say i am

so confsued

[deep parcel]

wack

[mortal grail]

Pc gaming in 2025:

[opaque sedge]

What does it add?

[mortal grail]

+1

[hoary zodiac]

DLSS nuts

[mortal grail]

WHOAAAAAA

[opaque sedge]

[mortal grail]

NOT EVEN I SAW THAT COMING

[opaque sedge]

Dem nuts musta been small as heck if they needed to be upscaled

[hoary zodiac]

OHHHHHHHHHH

ahh I love #general-chat

[opaque sedge]

Also

💀

[hoary zodiac]

thanks bethesda

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/YuGlXL3uKKQ

[junior willow]

Should the exhaust go on the top facing the left or on the top facing up

I only have one exhaust fan

[unreal trail]

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-yes-yeah-yas-nods-gif-17157483

[wraith fern]

sound:500085440221806603:1099587431566671942

[young matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871184044983980055/1332166696055607316/tastyhusband_2025-01-23-20-52-57_1737683577972.mp4?ex=6794446a&is=6792f2ea&hm=40021c3e3b7d553c8bc31d481e2c0fbca109b246da5f94c9b7acc13c4b5940b6&

beautiful

[hoary zodiac]

I face a great dillema

I need to move 2TB worth of files off a 2 2TB hdds in a LVM raid config

problem is well

I have no space to store the files...except on the 8TB hdd I have

which can't fit because the 2 fat 2TB HDDS are already taking up all the space on my hdd dock

I hate my life

[rancid juniper]

Man so angry he went back in time to beat more demons

[icy ore]

Gotta say doom has notoriously been one of the best optimized games ever made

[rancid juniper]

Developed by PLATINUM GAMES

Releasing this fall

[icy ore]

Pootinum games

[rancid juniper]

lol

[fresh timber]

I eat poop

Wbu

[pliant berry]

bruh

[hoary zodiac]

Define coke

[misty sparrow]

soda

[hoary zodiac]

Define the year of recipe

[misty sparrow]

2025

normal sugar variant with high fructose corn syrup

no zero sugar

[hoary zodiac]

no coke in coke?

[misty sparrow]

no cocaine, no

[rancid juniper]

lets gooooooooo

[idle nexus]

this is kinda cool ngl https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-dns-is-now-pre-installed-in-all-asus-wi-fi-7-routers.html

kinda weird for Asus to do something cool instead of like, well, the usual ig

[dusk knot]

the 5090 was suppose to fix everything....

[pliant berry]

how well does adguard dns work though? I would imagine it at least doesn't work for youtube

[idle nexus]

Unreal Engine needs a lot more than a 5090 to fix it

[idle nexus]

tbh I can't give you an answer

[dusk knot]

UE needs to be abolished

[idle nexus]

I could disable ublockorigin & check

[mortal grail]

This is on older routers already

[idle nexus]

I use Adguard DNS manually set through Control Panel>Network & Sharing Center

& on my phone, I have to click on a youtube video then click the "share" option

then share it to adguard player to avoid ads

[fresh timber]

Nope

How it works is compared every dns requires that is in your network, checks its database for any blocked domains and if it finds one, it blocks it

[idle nexus]

but I've subsequently learned that, for example, on my LG TV, I can't really block YouTube ads the same way because the YouTube app itself requests them? I'm not sure tbh

[idle nexus]

gonna try rn with uBlockOrigin disabled just for science

[pliant berry]

yeah youtube has really hardened their ads system

[fresh timber]

Ublock got past it in a day for me lmfao

My Pihole did block something that made YouTube angry, videos wouldn’t play past 1min, but I fixed it I had to whitelist a domain

[pliant berry]

well yeah but I am saying many other solutions no longer work and haven't worked for years

[idle nexus]

on an unrelated note, I found this setting that makes Edge look kinda nicer

Settings>Appearance

[fresh timber]

How to make edge nicer, https://firefox.com

[idle nexus]

now it's all like aquatic

okay I disabled uBlock & reloaded the page

[pliant berry]

oh yeah I have a thing on my laptop web browser that completely removes shorts from yt lol

[idle nexus]

moment of truth

I started a video without ads...

what?

how?

I need this on my everything

jk

got ads on another video

[hoary zodiac]

Average linux user

I use adguard home on my router in combination with ublock on firefox

[idle nexus]

lol I haven't heard this. I'm sure Chapelle won't say anything controversial

adguard for "private DNS" on Android blocks all the ad crap in games

I have a weird audio delay...

[hoary zodiac]

piss off google

[idle nexus]

uh HWiNFO is going bananas again

[young matrix]

https://youtu.be/gfZgyMq1uqA?si=q50mDvMuuYMsq0wD

[icy ore]

She’s warm

[idle nexus]

I can't imagine that my CPU actually hit 140C & is still functioning rn

VRMs at 132C? can this possibly be right?

[icy ore]

Basically 14900k

[idle nexus]

daaayum

my CPU setting some pretty serious frequency limits

9.8ghz on ambient let's go

[fresh timber]

did intel also fry the tempture sensors?

[lone mango]

This is crazy
https://youtu.be/P9AaHp7hgyM

[wraith fern]

9.8ghz cpu??

wasnt this like unattainable a few years ago

[idle nexus]

lol I think Intel got it on LHe recently

hwinfo is misreading or something

[wraith fern]

oh ok

[idle nexus]

it's said my SOC voltage was 1.8v before iirc

[mortal grail]

Reminds me of the 5090 temps

[idle nexus]

iirc 1.3 is hard limit

I thought the temps were decent

[wraith fern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-feline-meme-funny-gif-8764472215214951735

[idle nexus]

& that memory was a little toasty but

core was pretty good

cuz liquid metal

isn't the rear IO detatched from the card for the flow through fan setup?

imagine what that waterblock is gonna look like

[rancid juniper]

the music is a BOP (TOKYO XTREME RACER)

[idle nexus]

PCIe too?

damn I'm interested to see waterblocks for 5090 for real lol

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how the AIB models would perform

[idle nexus]

https://videocardz.com/press-release/alphacool-unveils-first-geforce-rtx-5090-5080-waterblocks-including-enterprise-variants

[sinful blade]

…who’s gonna tell them?

[misty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102940078505984/1331452427672752221/DOCnlIa.gif

[hoary zodiac]

The engineering was pretty good for the 5090... Unfortunately it was the wrong card

Maybe on a 5080

[idle nexus]

lol "puffer jacket"

get it?

nvm

[mortal grail]

Wtf gran turismo 1 vibes

It sounds so good

[rancid juniper]

fr, the game is a vibe

[idle nexus]

wooow

[rancid juniper]

reviews are very positive too

[idle nexus]

5090 on water is crazy thin

[rancid juniper]

thin

[mortal grail]

Big die, small pcb, yeah it would be

[idle nexus]

they need to bring SLI back

otherwise there's just gonna be lots of wasted space

fr that's nuts compared to 3-slot 4090 on a block

5090 is SFF build dream lol

[mortal grail]

Eh

The 4090 AC block I have is almost 1 slot thick

It's like 1.3 slots or something

[proud jackal]

how much

[idle nexus]

200 Euros

[proud jackal]

i need that in freedom units

[mortal grail]

200 freedom units

[idle nexus]

mine would be like 2ish if the block came with a 2-slot piece to swap with the stonk one

[proud jackal]

for which card is that for? FE?

[mortal grail]

I'm pretty sure I'm just over 1 slot if I don't include that pcie bracket lmao

[idle nexus]

4090 block is definitely the heaviest one I have bar far tho

[mortal grail]

It be a chonker

[idle nexus]

might just be a Bitspower thing

[mortal grail]

Nah my AC one is heavy af too

[idle nexus]

my Bitspower blocks for 1070 HOF & 980ti HOF are tiny in comparison

well light in comparison ig

it's a lot heavier than the 3070 & 3080ti EK blocks

or Phanteks 1080ti

Alphacool 2080ti is probably the lightest block I have besides the derpy universal one

but the universal one just covers the GPU & nothing else

I've been meaning to take apart two 1080ti Gaming X Trios to see if they run better on water for SLI

[velvet summit]

that's why they're trying to sell it

the jacket is too old for them

[idle nexus]

but I don't have much faith that it'll run well enough to justify the ~2 hours of taking the blocks apart & what not which is a major reason I haven't bothered doing it lol

plus I'm still kinda benching HD 7970 with one of the blocks

haven't been too motivated & now that 13900KS apparently doesn't wanna even do 58x all-core... lol

[idle nexus]

you could do custom loop fairly easily with ZMT or similar flexible tubing. It's really not that much harder than an AIO, it just takes a lot longer lol

[proud jackal]

im tempted to skil astral and try to get a blocked 5090

since i have the rads and tubing

[idle nexus]

oh what? you have to lol

not have to but you already got through some of the major cost barriers

[proud jackal]

yeah

[idle nexus]

fittings aren't cheap but they can be decent price

[proud jackal]

i just need the waterblock and gpu

and a am5 water block >_>

[idle nexus]

performance-pcs ebay account is a good place

plus, with flexible tubing, you just need pretty good fittings anyway

it's not like you gotta worry that if they get too hot they'll let go of the PETG or something like that

fittings for flexible tubing are kinda nuts