general-chat

[mortal grail]

An obscure forum post is not massive accountability

[north crescent]

Most context I've given was stated in Linus' first recent response, the recent-ish WAN show one

[mortal grail]

Ye I watched it

I still think beyond all methods taken, this situation occurred due to poor communication

[mortal grail]

The whole thing tbh

[hoary zodiac]

Amazon.com.au don't get crap 😭

[mortal grail]

Not just LMG and GN

But LMG in general

[north crescent]

Anything non US is ignored sadly

[mortal grail]

A problem which they had back in Aug 23 with the original GN vid

[hoary zodiac]

It's funny because amazon is cheaper than retail here

The subscription actually pays for itself

[mortal grail]

Idk, really hard for me or anyone else to say who is truly right

I don't think Linus is completely in the wrong

But his response handling is still awful

[opaque sedge]

No option for prime gaming?

[hoary zodiac]

Aussies don't get crap

😭

[mortal grail]

I can't change on this because it's just so obvious lol

[opaque sedge]

Go back a page show me the options there

[north crescent]

For this, we kinda need to see communication behind the doors with Steve/Linus

[mortal grail]

But GN's comments are a bit grey, I think he could've done better

[mortal grail]

Yeah we really don't know

[opaque sedge]

Hit the prime option

[mortal grail]

I think Steve's taken a neutral stance for the sake of his IP

But it's coming across very differently

[opaque sedge]

And scroll down and u should see the gaming section if not then yeah aussies dont get crap

[mortal grail]

By happen circumstance though Megalag already did the "Right to reply" part Linus felt troubled by

[mortal grail]

So it kinda does look bad on GN

I def agree there

[devout forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV1et6sQeRo

[opaque sedge]

Oof so no gaming option

[mortal grail]

And for that Steve could say "We didn't think to reach out for comment as megalag did that already"

[opaque sedge]

Ur originally from the states right?

[mortal grail]

That would've cleared Steve of everything imo

[hoary zodiac]

No

[opaque sedge]

Oh ic

[mortal grail]

So I think both parties aren't completely right but I think Steve is definitely a lot further from "Wrong" here

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

Thanks acer

[devout forum]

Kinda yikes if you ask me

[mortal grail]

It was pretty easy to math this one out since it was Ada refresh

The numbers really didn't surprise me

Though the lack of what feels like any actual IPC uplift of any significant degree was very surprising

[opaque sedge]

@hoary zodiac how abt trying to log into prime gaming from a web browser?

[mortal grail]

I'll be interested to see what a 4090 with a similar power envelope and increased voltage would do vs a 5090

[opaque sedge]

Google says prime gaming is available in aus

[opaque sedge]

Look up prime gaming

[mortal grail]

Cos iirc the 5090 is at like, 23K, vs a OC'd 4090 at like 20.5K

Which implies like almost a 10% difference

[opaque sedge]

https://gaming.amazon.com/home

[mortal grail]

Play your cards right and a 4090 can hit near 21K

So a good 4090 being almost within 10% difference for 20% less cash (Or the 5090 being 25% more) makes it look worse 💀

Though that's on a synthetic, not all games will look that way if you don't compare stock to stock

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

I have to activate it

[opaque sedge]

Activate prime?

Or prime gaming

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

Gaming

[opaque sedge]

Ah icic

[hoary zodiac]

Worked with my amazon account even though the prime is only for amazon.com.au

[opaque sedge]

Got it let us know if u can get it working

[opaque sedge]

Ohhh noice

[hoary zodiac]

I'm claiming all the gog studf

[opaque sedge]

Are they even good?

[hoary zodiac]

There's bioshock 2

I already own it but

DRM free version

[opaque sedge]

Is it good?

[hoary zodiac]

Haven't played it

It's in a backlog

That was before I stopped playing games

I do need to get back into my gog tho

Need to get this game working on linux

[fair onyx]

Welp lmao

[opaque sedge]

@mortal grail hello governor might i ask if u partook in experience of the game the outer worlds with a controller or a keyboard and mouse?

[mortal grail]

Pretty sure you can do either or

[opaque sedge]

Oh just wanted to ask which one feels better

I tend to have a really hard time relearning controls once i decide to switch

[mortal grail]

Mmmm depends on your control preferences I think

[hoary zodiac]

Eh just make a new app

Not really a big deal

[mortal grail]

I don't think I can be the judge of what you prefer there 💀

[hoary zodiac]

It was going to happen sooner or later with their ties to China

[opaque sedge]

Makes sense

[hoary zodiac]

This changes nothing really

Except for the people whining online

[mortal grail]

Like asking me "What ice cream flavour would I like?" With little to no context lol

[fair onyx]

I mean yeah, I barely use it once in a blue moon, but its gonna be a huge pain for all the memes friends have sent me that I have saved

[hoary zodiac]

Unless you're the based Australians just blanket banning all teenagers under 16 from social media

[opaque sedge]

💀

[nocturne flicker]

Favorite hot dog brand

?

[mortal grail]

[fair onyx]

@hoary zodiacSide note, the Jetsons/Digit just got a huge update for 1.5x-2x performance, so I am now even more hyped to get a digit lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Jokes aside the Australian ban is a bit overblown

[fair onyx]

yes

or well, in what way?

[hoary zodiac]

Well

It's a blanket ban

[fair onyx]

Are you saying the ban is overkill, or the reaction to it?

[hoary zodiac]

It's overkill really

[opaque sedge]

Booted up

[fair onyx]

Ok, yeah

I thought you meant peoples reactions were overblown

[hoary zodiac]

There's a more surgical way of addressing the problems with social media here

[opaque sedge]

The hardest of decisions

[hoary zodiac]

Feels like it's a net negative especially for people with social anxiety

Especially in today's society

[fair onyx]

My boyfriend is Australian, so I feel strangely affected by it as well lmao

[fair onyx]

that especially

[hoary zodiac]

I get where they're coming from

I fully support that view but not the methods

[fair onyx]

I do get it, but yeah, its a net negative IMO

[hoary zodiac]

As someone who grew up on the internet

I won't have achieved most of the things I have without social media

[fair onyx]

I grew up on it as well, and I was severely affected by it, but I am happy how I turned out lmao

[fair onyx]

Yeah, same here. Tho my social medias were really niche

[hoary zodiac]

Ahh 2010s were a time

Minecraft was the most popular game around

Xbox Live

[fair onyx]

I would have never met my ex-boyfriend turned life long best friend, or basically any of my good friends, who are all online

[hoary zodiac]

Good old days

Now we have

[fair onyx]

Granted, I was 100% doing stuff I should not have done, and I have a ton of trauma I am still healing from, but I wouldn't trade it 😅

[hoary zodiac]

Inflation II: Electric Boogaloo

I miss it when prices were somewhat stable

Want to rent an apartment alone? Too bad!!! It's 2025!!!

[hoary zodiac]

Anyways back on the AI topic

So for 3K....

How does the value proposition look against blackwell now

[fair onyx]

Assuming its not terribly slow, which I highly doubt it will be, its an insanely good value

I am expecting it to be as fast as a 3090, minimum

and thats at like FP16. At FP8 or FP4, its gonna blow it out of the damn water

[hoary zodiac]

The digit right?

[fair onyx]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

👀

Is that before the vram advantages?

Or after

[fair onyx]

well, thats hard to factor for

this is all speculation, really

but I am sure the digit will be a good value fromw here I am standing

[hoary zodiac]

Is it a standalone unit too?

[fair onyx]

Yes, a super small hyper efficient mini PC smaller than a mac mini

[hoary zodiac]

👀

[fair onyx]

I did several hours of research into how well the jetson orins run, and previous products as well, and the Digit is likely gonna be extremely viable

even if its just double the performance of the Jetsin Orin AGX, I will be extremely happy

[hoary zodiac]

That's honestly really exciting

[fair onyx]

and it will likely be a lot more than double the perf. Plus the jetson orin AGX just got a 1.7x performance uplift

[hoary zodiac]

Relatively accessible in price too

[fair onyx]

for what it is, yeah

I am extremely excited for all of the cool things I can run

if I could get 2... I could run a model that beats chat GPT4o

I've been messing with a new super small model, and its very damn smart

Like, its throwing punches with open AI o1, which is their top model

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder what you could run outside of ai applications

[fair onyx]

Likely not much

[hoary zodiac]

With all that compute power

[fair onyx]

not really many things need compute like that

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

It's a really neat kit still

If you think about it

[fair onyx]

Yeah

have you not see how insanely small it is?

[hoary zodiac]

You can have small businesses running AI models

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it's like mini pc size

[fair onyx]

its far smaller than most mini PC's

[hoary zodiac]

You could have an AI assistant in hardware stores/grocery stores

Just tuck this thing in the backrooms

Or hell

Have a couple of these in a datacenter

You can run an entire business' worth of automated system with just a room full of these

[fair onyx]

My friend is considering buying 20 if they are good

He has a ton of money, so lol

[pseudo raven]

the president has his own crypto

is this the end of the cycle

or the sign of a new one

mad funny

[eager sapphire]

i need help with something regarding a PC

[topaz crown]

Hello @eager sapphire! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[eager sapphire]

I wanna know some infos about what you would consider for an office PC and if what I built makes any sense

[hoary zodiac]

What is the use case?

[eager sapphire]

Thats what Im asking

Would it be good for any applications that a company might use

I dont care if its video editing or rendering I just need to know what it'd be good for

[mortal grail]

Hard to say without any context

This could be a gaming company

Or maybe a word processing company

[eager sapphire]

I dont mind either

[mortal grail]

Maybe a watching youtube company

Well we don't know without better context lad

Lol

[eager sapphire]

Look I built this pc for a company that I made up, I havent given a lot of context in the written part of the exam, only "a pc using an apu for best price/performance which can easily handle our processes" so in the presenting part of the exam I can explain what it will be used for by that company and what they do

So right now I just need some ideas for that part

I can spin it however I want to it just has to make some sense

[mortal grail]

An apu implies a ryzen pc, but the use case is heavily dependent on whether it's intel or amd

[eager sapphire]

Amd

Ryzen 5 5600G

[mortal grail]

So the criteria is a 5600G?

[eager sapphire]

Yes

[mortal grail]

I would pick a relatively affordable cooler and motherboard

32gb is affordable but enough room for igpu ram allocation

As well as complex work like multiple windows, chrome, word etc

A simple 1tb ssd, since the work implied won't leverage faster speeds

[hoary zodiac]

I'd just go with the good old haswell optiplex

[eager sapphire]

This is the list

[mortal grail]

A basic psu and a case

Would do different

[eager sapphire]

The list has already been sent away

[mortal grail]

Welp

[eager sapphire]

So I cant change it anymore

[hoary zodiac]

Meh

[eager sapphire]

I went with easy cheap options that will work fine

[hoary zodiac]

Costs too much for an office pc

[mortal grail]

Looks fine except board and ram I'd have spent more and less on the case

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it depends on what kind of use case it actually is

[eager sapphire]

I put it together whilst doing the entire written part throughout the night which took me around 10 hours so I wasnt all there anymore

[mortal grail]

Suppose you could tailor the ram allocation on 16gb

It won't feel particularly powerful though

[eager sapphire]

Its 32 gb

Theres 2 of the 16gb

[mortal grail]

Oh that's better

Yeah for an exam question it looks fine

Board is hilariously cheap but that's all tbh

[hoary zodiac]

What kind of work are you doing on it that requires 32GB

[eager sapphire]

Its a presentation

[hoary zodiac]

Esports company?

Idk trying to think up a realistic use case

[eager sapphire]

Idc what i just have to make it sound plausible

[mortal grail]

I would NOT use 16gb if I could avoid it for basic windows

APUs like 4-8GB ram

Windows can be up to 8 alone

[hoary zodiac]

Oh yeah windows is a thing

Forgot about that

[mortal grail]

Yeah you want a bit more honestly

[eager sapphire]

32gb is useful for multiple windows applications as well

[mortal grail]

Otherwise you're packing light

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

I forgot how bad windows was

💀

I'm too spoiled

[mortal grail]

You can be smart with windows

Use like tiny11

Or a debloat script

[hoary zodiac]

Or win10

Or

[mortal grail]

Win10 is barely any better

[hoary zodiac]

Debloated LTSC

[eager sapphire]

Its using win10

[hoary zodiac]

The hypothetical business would have access to LTSC

Since it's well hypothetical

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't overcomplicate it

[eager sapphire]

Whats ltsc

[mortal grail]

Win 10 pro

Pro let's you use remote desktop

Good for support

[eager sapphire]

Yes

[mortal grail]

Remote in to fix the problem

[hoary zodiac]

What's an apu dependant workload hmm

[mortal grail]

Think the spin is there's not

If it was an intel pc quick sync exists

[eager sapphire]

Oh nvm its win11 pro

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah these apus aren't really good for realistic use cases

[mortal grail]

Still fine

[mortal grail]

They aren't meant to be amazing lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I mean value wise

They're a lot better for gaming

But for everything else ehhh

[mortal grail]

Bit late for that

The use case here is low cost low power basic work

[eager sapphire]

Could say its being used for really light gaming for some evenings after everyones done with work as per request of the person I had contacted about it

[mortal grail]

It's got a speciality of being simple

[mortal grail]

I would dodge that imo

You're cornering yourself on an edge case

It's an office pc

Focus on the fact you can do multiple outputs, multitask windows

Remote pc support

[eager sapphire]

Its a central PC i have set users and their file access which is part of the written exam

[eager sapphire]

That could work

[hoary zodiac]

Hmm

[mortal grail]

Active ongoing amd support on an older cheap platform

[hoary zodiac]

What if

It's a remote client

[eager sapphire]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

To save costs

[mortal grail]

This is why you pick windows pro

[hoary zodiac]

Does windows pro support multiple clients?

Simultaneously?

[mortal grail]

Uh

I can't answer that

💀

[hoary zodiac]

eh small issue

Nothing proxmox can't solve

[eager sapphire]

I mean theres always options

[mortal grail]

Would you really split a 5600G

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

Anyways you don't have to go into detail

I mean there's 12 threads to work with

[eager sapphire]

I do thats the issue they will press me with questions about it after i presented it

I do have to know details about every PC part as well

[hoary zodiac]

uhh proxmox vms yada yada

[mortal grail]

You'd remove some serious advantages doing this imo

[hoary zodiac]

But depending on the use case

It could work

[mortal grail]

I'd make sense of it if it was a basic dgpu and a more serious cpu

[mortal grail]

Yeah but forget good multitasking

[hoary zodiac]

What's the windows overhead actually like

Does it kill performance that much to split the cores?

[mortal grail]

You'd definitely have issues of running multiple windows on less than 3 cores imo

[hoary zodiac]

I haven't used windows in ages so I wouldn't know

💀

[mortal grail]

It's not that, it's the programs you'd run

The ram overhead is a thing not the cpu overhead

The igpu would ironically have good utility cos you can be generous with 32gb

But 6 cores, I'd be sweating at 2 lol

For any serious work personally

If it was really rudimentary like

Just word

Just slow and basic internet

Ok fine

But not with the word multitasking involved

[hoary zodiac]

Man I'm way too spoiled

[eager sapphire]

Single use multitasking?

[hoary zodiac]

Surviving on 8GB of ram on work laptop

Linux spoils me hard

[mortal grail]

Like they all run the same program set?

[hoary zodiac]

I'm out of touch

[mortal grail]

Or one user

[eager sapphire]

Lets stick to options that works if single users use the PC but its beinf used for various different operations

[hoary zodiac]

Graphic design?

[eager sapphire]

Due to everyone being in different departments

[mortal grail]

I would say 1 or 2 users would be quite adept for pretty serious multitasking

[eager sapphire]

Still same company but some using different programs

[hoary zodiac]

I'd just give it to one person tbh

[eager sapphire]

I guess? Maybe

[hoary zodiac]

One person with a specific skillset

[mortal grail]

Single users, multiple use cases would work

[hoary zodiac]

The one that gets paid the most

[eager sapphire]

Its a central PC used by different people

[mortal grail]

Two users as well imo

And the cost being for something like that would be like what $400

$200 per person is reasonable

[eager sapphire]

It has 10 users set up with different read/write access

[mortal grail]

10 is too much imo unless it's super basic work lol

[hoary zodiac]

Central workstation for web designer/graphic designer/accountant/marketing

[eager sapphire]

For files

[mortal grail]

Files is fine

[eager sapphire]

Thanm you

Thank* i hate touch keyboards

[mortal grail]

Would work but imo 1-2 users unless you want to really inhibit workflow for the sake of more users per node (pc)

Esp. graphic design

[hoary zodiac]

Well it depends on the business

If they're hired on different hours

Or different shifts

[mortal grail]

That's not ethical lmao

[eager sapphire]

Nah its just a pc that might be used if someone else's PC fried or sth I guess?

[mortal grail]

Stick to 9 to 5

[eager sapphire]

Not necessarily

Like I said its open to any possibilities

[mortal grail]

It works for a work pc but if you want multiple people tapping into it you'd avoid segregating too many cores

[eager sapphire]

I just have to sell it as such

[mortal grail]

Still stick to expected hours and not 4 people 1 per 6 hours or something ridiculous lmao

[eager sapphire]

Nah like localy using it not remote access necessarily

[eager sapphire]

Nah not that

But 3 of the 10 on different shifts use it

[mortal grail]

Locally I'd say 2 is easily justified

Even 3 at a stretch

The cost of the pc is how much

I guessed 400

Like 200-133 dollars per person is really reasonable for a pc tower

In terms of effective cost

[eager sapphire]

570€ including taxes

[mortal grail]

That's still within estimates

That's really reasonable

Basic monitor, keyboard mouse, another like €60?

That's really reasonable per person for a new pc lol

I would take the value proposition there and build off by divided use case

[hoary zodiac]

It's a jack of all trades really

[mortal grail]

If one person needs it for something particularly demanding they can kick everyone off and use all 6 lol

[hoary zodiac]

The flexibility is the selling point

[mortal grail]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

Over just buying a bunch of optiplexes

[mortal grail]

And the cheap supported parts, very reasonable

[eager sapphire]

But I also thought of remote access setting the PC as their central work station with the most power used only for simple office tasks

[mortal grail]

Sapping that to just spam people onto basically chromebook tier pc's with 2 threads or less is kinda nasty

[hoary zodiac]

Waste of a 6c/12t tbh

[mortal grail]

I mean, kinda?

[hoary zodiac]

I'd get a broadwell xeon if you want to split the cpu

They perform like crap but

[mortal grail]

Remote support is a big bonus of win pro

[eager sapphire]

Basically like their server which will have most things saved on it

[mortal grail]

Remote access, ig it works

Sure

[hoary zodiac]

Would work better

[mortal grail]

You don't have a lot of space tho

1TB is fair but for multiple people not a whole lot

50GB for the install max, then 300-350 pp

[hoary zodiac]

1TB is nothing considering potential work cases

[eager sapphire]

Thats upgradeable or I could say they had some extra storage within their facility and thats why I decided to go with something simple for now

[hoary zodiac]

It's not just excel and word docs

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't say there's extra

If they're evaluating on what you're selling, you're not selling extra

You could imply extra, don't assume it

Like "If they need more storage, it's upgradeable [wink]" lol

Not "The client has more storage from an old pc"

They could also just have a 5090 laying around

Not very strong argument imo

[eager sapphire]

They evaluate my knowledge about IT/installation/

And some electrician knowledge

[hoary zodiac]

They could also have a E5-2680 v4 so now they have a server running proxmox ve with 20 instances of windows 10 running at the same time

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah but you can show them it's upgradeable

But never assume

That still shows you're being thoughtful

[mortal grail]

Honestly yeah^ good example lol

[hoary zodiac]

Electrician knowledge?

Don't touch the capacitors inside the psu?

[eager sapphire]

I'd say they wanted it to be highly personalized and be accessible for future upgrades and such

[mortal grail]

You could say they wanted it

But don't assume it exists

Cos you could open the doors on assuming the client has anything

[hoary zodiac]

Now I'm tempted to get a stupid X99 bundle and put a crap load of windows vms on them

[mortal grail]

Which I'm sure won't reflect well on a presentation unless it's pure upgradeability

[mortal grail]

This part^

[hoary zodiac]

It could be upgradable in the sense it doesn't have OEM BS

[mortal grail]

Yessss

[hoary zodiac]

Like proprietary parts

[mortal grail]

Excellent point

[hoary zodiac]

Very cheap to repair

[proud jackal]

[eager sapphire]

If I had anything in this assignment but since we chose it ourselves and I chose basically only IT and assembly of the PC its pretty negligible

[mortal grail]

Not having proprietary is a strong alternative take

[hoary zodiac]

That can be a significant cost saving

To not have proprietary

[mortal grail]

Providing proper warranty documentation in a simple folder

[hoary zodiac]

You can get an off the shelf psu

[mortal grail]

Saves disorganisation

[hoary zodiac]

Or off the shelf motherboard

[mortal grail]

Yeah

It can make servicing very cheap

[hoary zodiac]

Or hell cannibalise a pc you found in the bin that was thrown put because someone put corsair vengeance in it

[mortal grail]

In the case of business time you'd hyperfocus replacement over warranty

For multiple units you could retire a unit and repair it with contractual services

[hoary zodiac]

Right to repair

[eager sapphire]

Thanks for the help

[mortal grail]

There's a farrrr better use case to talk about here

Price is a big part of presentations

Focus on that

[eager sapphire]

Yes this is one of the reasons I'd name

[mortal grail]

Anyway

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/176797128821

What is the catch

Why is it so cheap

[old charm]

Keyboard cleaning day

[craggy shoal]

Good luck getting those key caps back on

[sweet phoenix]

It's honestly borderline ewaste atp

[craggy shoal]

Probably fake given that they actually list which i5 it is

The joke explained: listings always say "it has an i5" or "it has an i7" but never say which i5 or i7

Shut up stinky. I'm getting the guards

@elfin mural @proud jackal GUARDSSS

[elfin mural]

begone

stepped into wegg with the intent of theft

smh

[fresh timber]

@craggy shoal

[craggy shoal]

lmao yeah I saw it

[fresh timber]

It’s offical called remote

Red note

[craggy shoal]

lmaooo

The actual problem

(But let's not get too political. #rules exist)

[fresh timber]

Yes yes, we are just talkin about our favorite app

Noting political about chatting about names

I want to waste $2000

[icy ore]

That’s insane

[sinful blade]

Bro why

The officially Chinese spyware

I promise tiktok is NOT that special

[fresh timber]

it is to us

i lost my community

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-bumpy-launch-reportedly-linked-to-price-pressure-from-nvidia

[mortal grail]

#tech-industry-news

2 fast 4 u

5 ever my tailpipe

[weary stream]

https://youtu.be/SBCGhYjhlaQ?si=ZXMm9p-AvvWOoIb-

[fresh timber]

I need coffee

[rancid juniper]

😡

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

I was talking to my mom about the fasfa

She’s like I make too much idk why those people require you file one

Context: Im getting free college through stuff but they require fasfa even if your denied

[remote geode]

so I lowered the BCLK of my CPU by 0.5mhz and it solved my NVME issues?

or not, I'll play some Forza Horizon to see if whether it's actually good

[mortal grail]

Could do

Be careful not to lower it too much

On Ryzen especially if you step out BCLK more than 103/97 you can ruin your nvme drives depending on the board

[rancid juniper]

Man I don't think I'll ever touch BCLK on my motherboard but... Since it overclocks nearly everything 😏

Nah I shouldn't do it, that'll require crazy extensive testing for all components except PSU

[mortal grail]

You're really overstating it

Lol

[rancid juniper]

Bruh

[mortal grail]

If you need to retest everything just for that then you weren't stable enough in the first place

[icy ore]

[mortal grail]

A bclk stepping of 103 isn't even a dram bin

[rancid juniper]

I mean you never know, I'm probably edging that fine line of stability

I feel like the CPU oc would fail first than anything else, ram second since it cannot boot at 3100/3200mhz

🤔

[mortal grail]

That fine crack

💀

[rancid juniper]

Yeas

YES

[mortal grail]

YEAAASSSS

https://tenor.com/view/igor-smile-young-frankenstein-gif-15500191805501350170

[rancid juniper]

Ok so I have bclk at 100mhz, maybe changing it to 101 won't hurt

[mortal grail]

Gonna laugh if everything breaks

SAVE YOUR SETTINGS FIRST I STG

[rancid juniper]

For sure

I do wonder if I can exclude both cpu and ram when attempting this... If not then I gotta revert them back to stock lol @mortal grail

[mortal grail]

If you exclude both then nothing benefits

Intel uses a different bclk method, it's isolated to cpu+ram in at least a vast majority of cases

[rancid juniper]

Oh

[mortal grail]

So pcie stuff is unaffected afaik

Ye

Ryzen doesn't do that

So if you don't have a bclk pcie chip on ryzen you can destroy the m.2 playing with it

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-black-guy-gif-5750196720983083288

[mortal grail]

Meaning a lot of bclk oc's on X3D use sata drives

If not on a renesas pcie board

[rancid juniper]

I see

[mortal grail]

Double check this btw LOL

Bclk can be reaaallllyyyy dodgy if you are playing with a board that doesn't isolate

[rancid juniper]

I only have this

[mortal grail]

Do you have cpu oc settings

Like regular stuff

Set frequency all core, all that

[rancid juniper]

Think so

Yea

[mortal grail]

Then don't bother with bclk

[rancid juniper]

[mortal grail]

It's such a granular change you'd be definitely overdoing it

[rancid juniper]

Ok

[mortal grail]

Eeking less than 1% out

Especially when certain situations with hardware combos extremely prefer a specifically trained bclk

[rancid juniper]

103mhz

[rancid juniper]

._.

[sinful blade]

Go on Reddit shorts
Or YouTube shorts
Or Instagram reels
Or Snapchat stories

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/taQr13QObiw?si=ggqriL4BB98q4Aqm

✅

[rancid juniper]

accurate resident evil plot

[dusk knot]

What the

[rancid juniper]

scientists when tasked to make a B.O.W for the 8798465th time:

[lone mango]

All amd needs to do is add a fifth vram chip to hit 10g and people will buy

Literally all they need to do

For the 9060

[rancid juniper]

AMD: nah

[sinful blade]

https://www.amazon.com/Sparkle-Guardian-Breathing-Backplate-SB570G-10GOC/dp/B0DR337DJG?

$229 b570??????

[lone mango]

I dont understand the point of it

Just spend $20 more and get the 580

[sinful blade]

Slightly worse b580

[sinful blade]

Good luck finding one that’s NOT $300+

[lone mango]

Its not worth saving like 20-30

[lone mango]

Just wait longer nbd

[rancid juniper]

ITS AVAILABLE

BRUH

[sinful blade]

From Amazon too

I might snag this

@sweet phoenix available b570s

[sweet phoenix]

Hmm

[sinful blade]

https://www.gigaparts.com/asrock-intel-arc-b570-cl-10gb-graphics-card-vg-b570cl10go.html

Here too

[sweet phoenix]

At 230 I'm not sure abt it

How's it compare to a 7600?

[sinful blade]

It’s $10 above msrp

I dunno yet
Watching a gn review

Seems equal, worse in some, better in some

[fresh timber]

Unban TikTok

[lone mango]

Nah

Well its kinda happening

Trump will extend the window for 90 days to see if another company will buy

[fresh timber]

Seww

[lone mango]

If not then bye tiktok now you gotta do something better

[sage sluice]

Me when the addicts will flock to alternatives

[fresh timber]

Rip TikTok

It was a great platform

[lone mango]

I remember when tiktok was seeing what was copied on your clipboard

Now it says on permission

[remote geode]

I think I know now the culprit of my NVME problems

it was my GPU 😦

it's pumping so much heat that it's making the drives overheat

leading to throttling

and disconnection

[tranquil pebble]

yikes

[devout forum]

oof

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/tanjiro-scream-breath-in-anime-rage-gif-27226954

[fresh timber]

ITS BACK

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[random osprey]

still down for me 😔

i want my tiktok shop back

[fresh timber]

Doom scrolling begins

[spark halo]

The ban lasted what 40 mins

[devout forum]

Wow, wet noodle US be like

[fresh timber]

Few hours

[spark halo]

I feel like someone got a bribe

[fresh timber]

TikTok freedom of 2025

[fresh timber]

Works for me

[ocean plover]

hey can someone tell me anything about these ram sticks

im pc noob idk if they are old new or whatever

oh cant send pic here

[velvet summit]

what's the sku

[devout forum]

You got an image of the box or the sticks?

[worthy meteor]

There's usually a sticker on one of the sides, take a look at that if you can

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215140347454427229/1330532457337852016/FB_IMG_1737292647301.jpg?ex=678e5269&is=678d00e9&hm=94ac491b7e0228b4f22419d87b0391f54fdf68f2b022a773672791020cfa4444&

[wind quail]

Titktoks actually rerolling out atm

[gleaming rivet]

Yeah, saw that on my news app. Something about the trumpster wanting 50% of the company.

[fresh timber]

I’m tempted to buy a 4060 rn lmfao

[remote geode]

8gb in 2025??? atrocious!

[fresh timber]

I can almost afford a 4070 super

[proud jackal]

wish i had money to buy nice pc parts like that

[remote geode]

yeah same

I'm watching out for a B580 on the local market for ~250 USD

apparently local chains are in talks with suppliers at the moment

[gleaming rivet]

uh huh

[remote geode]

right now the only B580s on sale are scalped ones

since they're going for 500-600 USD

B580 should only cost around 300 USD after import taxes

[proud jackal]

what currency is that

[remote geode]

PHP

[proud jackal]

you're filipino?

[remote geode]

😴 yeah

[proud jackal]

where is @wary fjord

[remote geode]

sleeping

[proud jackal]

find her

[remote geode]

it's 3AM in Asia-Singapore methinks

[tranquil pebble]

For SD... a 6900 XT on Linux is almost as fast as a 7900 XTX on Windows... rofl

[wind quail]

Okay?

[wind quail]

Idk but it's back up for muricans atm

[fresh timber]

Chat

4060ti waste or nah

[remote geode]

4060ti for 400 USD seems a bit overpriced for my own tastes

[fresh timber]

Damn

I wish the ram was closer to $60

I’d cop

Too expensive for my taste

[devout forum]

Yo prebuilts with 50 series is now being advertised

[proud jackal]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-astral-rog-astral-rtx5090-o32g-gaming-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-gddr7/p/N82E16814126751?Item=N82E16814126751

[fresh timber]

If I saw a 5070, instant cop

[devout forum]

It's such majestic horse dung

[remote geode]

powered by tomie

ai

[leaden pewter]

Founders edition 5070 gonna be 242mm smallest 50 series so far and still 2 slot at $550 I'd lock in even with 3080 (i got 10gb of vram and i do both gaming and work stuff so the boost helps)

[remote geode]

is this forint

[devout forum]

It is

[devout forum]

You can get a 4080S for less and get more perf and VRAM

But yes @remote geode they are in forint
And the configs are painfully awful
Also no 5090 on offer because those are "delayed" allegedly

[remote geode]

oof

it's probably not "delayed" moreso that they can't get their hands on it cuz bigger system integrators has their hands on them first

[tranquil pebble]

imagine if we get to a point where Nvidia cards are all OEM only

[worthy meteor]

Where is 4080 super cheaper than FE 5070? They're still going for at least 800 used from what I can tell

[devout forum]

FE 5070 will cost like 450k here
Used 4080S is down at 380k

Both HUF ofc

The meta might be ordering stuff from Germany tbf

[leaden pewter]

The import taxes wouldn't make it worth it for me

[worthy meteor]

Yea I don't think that's going to work for the US

[devout forum]

Well being in Schengen works for me

But EU pricing is generally significantly higher than US ones anyway

[remote geode]

god I would import a B580 from China but the import taxes is going to kill me

[fresh timber]

But from Amazon

[remote geode]

~19,000 PHP for a B580 😦

[fresh timber]

Get your phd instead of your php

[devout forum]

How much is it to buy there?

Like normally

[remote geode]

it's not available here yet

[devout forum]

Ah

[remote geode]

except for the ones that's already scalped/imported it already

selling it for 4060 prices (~25,000 PHP) on Facebook Marketplace

[fresh timber]

Idea

[mental yoke]

Tik tok is back

Wowza

[tranquil pebble]

it was gone for so long though

[leaden pewter]

Not on app stores tho

[mental yoke]

It'll be back on app stores in a week

Wstch

[leaden pewter]

App stores have a hold on it until decision is reached

[mental yoke]

Watch

[leaden pewter]

I don't use it so I never lose it

[devout forum]

I believe the ban is still in effect

That's why it's not in app stores

Using the app isn't banned
Distributing and maintaining it is

[fresh timber]

I was so confused when it loaded

I’m happy it’s back

[devout forum]

This is how brainrot looks ladies and gentledudes

[fresh timber]

Skibidi?

[devout forum]

You don't need to prove me harder

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/quagmire-toilet-skibidi-toilet-giggity-family-guy-gif-11023844086937480401

[leaden pewter]

Maybe I'm stuck with the mentality that social media just isn't for us humans as we never do stop developing mentally

[peak inlet]

hello i got an ABS cyclone prebuilt pc and i have it set up but when i turn it on my monitor just shows like “error while installing windows click ok to reset” then when i click ok the same thing just happens over and over

does anybody know what to do?

[tranquil pebble]

this is the superior brainrot

[icy ore]

[leaden pewter]

Not brainrot but good humor

[velvet summit]

mfw https://youtu.be/5xkSQMQy42g

[dusk knot]

Never use twitter

[rancid juniper]

iirc didn't the artist plan on quitting on that same day? It was unrelated to the criticism, obviously what that user did was very stupid

[dusk knot]

The no ribs….lmao

[rancid juniper]

Bro thinks he's an art connoisseur

😂

[dusk knot]

Typical Twitter

Especially towards female characters

[rancid juniper]

twitter is a cesspool of mental degradation and trash bait posts filled with hatred on the side

i do think its one of THE worst social media platforms ever

[worn wave]

Don't forget it's also where you more and more often have to resort to getting tech support from companies by @ing them rather than through a normal email ticket system

[rancid juniper]

thats wild

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/life-of-crime-spongebob-patrick-time-jail-gif-27257898

[ancient swift]

Meta and IG are so bad and they'll start making AI generated content to interact with people.

Dead internet theory is herrrreee

[rancid juniper]

stupid companies proving it ✅

[worn wave]

I saw a John Pork Ai bot on IG the other day 😭

[ancient swift]

LOL Marvel Snap was caught up in the ban too because its owned by Bytedance. Its back now though

[rancid juniper]

They nearly got snapped

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-snap-finger-snap-gif-12502580

[dusk knot]

Oh.

[ancient swift]

So many games are gonna be blocked if they try going after chinese owned studios again.

Heck, based on the "20% ownership" in the Bill BG3 would get banned too. Tencent owns 30% of Larian.

Larian, Epic, Snapchat, Digital Extremes, and Riot. are fully or partially owned by Tencent. Then you'd have MiHoyo and Netease probably get gone after too. 🥲

[rancid juniper]

bruh

because american tech companies want more of your information without foreign competition

[nocturne flicker]

Ah but you forget, there is no self interest in banning BG3

[rancid juniper]

this is so stupid

seriously

[ancient swift]

Attempting to force a sale is self interest

[nocturne flicker]

You think video game companies have the ear of the pres?

[ancient swift]

Elon Musk said he wanted to start a gaming studio

[nocturne flicker]

Oh

[ancient swift]

so yes

[nocturne flicker]

I take it back

Welp

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-cringe-gif-23742766

[ancient swift]

He's known for buying his way in rather than actually starting one

[fresh timber]

Ban Valorant

[rancid juniper]

gamers when no league of legends:

[ancient swift]

Do you really want Valorant or league players to go to another game?

[nocturne flicker]

Erm, acktually Elon Musk is our god king Tony Stark savior so now I will send death threats to punish you 🙃

[rancid juniper]

Neurolink credit check: ✅

"you can continue living"

[ancient swift]

I've noticed a lot of people complaining about cod/fortnite players who migrate to other shooters cause they never have any idea what they're doing.

and they refuse to learn too

[nocturne flicker]

I dunno, I never know what I'm doing in multiplayer shooters either and never seem to learn

[ancient swift]

Saw a team lose right at the end on Marvel's Rivals because they all left the objective 🥲 like bruh

[rancid juniper]

._.

[nocturne flicker]

I haven't actually played a shooter in a long time

[rancid juniper]

good

[ancient swift]

I'm just waiting for Splitgate 2

but competitive gaming is dead.

[nocturne flicker]

Except for the on foot stuff in Elite Dangerous, the most shooter of games

[rancid juniper]

i could never go competitive, casual is my go to for all fps games

[ancient swift]

AI cheats are popping up and will be challenging to detect

[rancid juniper]

i wanna chill and have fun not sweat 90% of remaining water out my body

[ancient swift]

Cheats don't need to run on your device. Just a capture card and a kronus to move input from one PC to the other. Works on consoles too

[rancid juniper]

OH NAAAAAAAAAAAA

marvel rivals is owned by netease

A CHINESE COMPANY

[ancient swift]

ye

[rancid juniper]

[ancient swift]

Thats why I mentioned Netease above

[rancid juniper]

Netease
Netmarble
Tencent

is like the only top 3 i know from my head

[ancient swift]

Tencent, Netease, and mihoyo are major gaming companies.

And they already said Tencent is a "Chinese Military entity"

[rancid juniper]

bruh what?

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wth-wtf-really-meme-gif-17151805

[ancient swift]

They added a ton of tech companies to the list. Like CATL which makes lithium batteries for Tesla and is teaching Ford how to make them in Michigan

[rancid juniper]

huh interesting

[nocturne flicker]

I imagine with a carve out that'll allow them to still sell to Tesla but nobody else yeah?

[ancient swift]

TBH I'm surprised Ford hasn't been pushing back.

They rely a lot on foreign companies and the US is making enemies of all of them basically lol.

[nocturne flicker]

I imagine they don't want to tick off all the pickup truck owners and have the admin remind people they have factories in Mexico

Especially since they are already going to be getting flak in the form of the EV tax credit getting bonked

[nocturne flicker]

Mer Gmm Nl

Mergimminal

[dusk knot]

Ha

[lone mango]

I forgot to get some cheese

[opaque sedge]

Do u like meat and cheese?

[nocturne flicker]

Weren't you supposed to not say meat anymore?

[sour falcon]

gonna be my son fr

[opaque sedge]

That was for d**z nuts

[opaque sedge]

I was born in 2004 💀

[dusk knot]

sigh...time

it comes for us all

😔

rich or poor, there is no escape

[unreal trail]

Im waiting to be born

[sweet phoenix]

im currently doing storage management so i can wipe my OS drive and reinstall windows

i hate storage

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-probpem-frustasi-brokenhearted-coffee-gif-15105227

[south sapphire]

Girlfriend bought her son a prebuilt PC from Best Buy….i think he only has one drive that came with it (I think it’s HDD)….does every PC have at least one slot for an M.2 drive

Not home at the moment and they are at her parents but she picked up a m.2 (Crucial). And I told her wasn’t sure if it had a slot for it

Here is the drive…are we gonna need a heat sink with it?

[sweet phoenix]

no you wont

[south sapphire]

How do you determine if you need one?

[sweet phoenix]

there is almost never a well priced build at best buy

[sweet phoenix]

no gen 3 ssd does

[south sapphire]

I understand that

[sweet phoenix]

some high speed gen 4 ones do

[south sapphire]

Oh ok

[sweet phoenix]

oh

[velvet summit]

technically it's not a "need"

[sweet phoenix]

that is gen 4 tbf, but a very slow one

it still doesnt need one

[south sapphire]

I told her to go the route having a company build it but I guess she just wanted to get him something

[sweet phoenix]

was just an observation

[velvet summit]

you might not get the full performance out of the drive though without one, though assuming the motherboard isnt the cheapest one availiable, it might have a heat spreader on it

[south sapphire]

Can I share the specs

It’s a really low end PC

[velvet summit]

yes

[sweet phoenix]

and how much did it cost?

[velvet summit]

60 bucks if they paid that listing cost

[cedar compass]

my crucial x9 4tb external ssd have 2x 2tb nvme ssd inside lol

[velvet summit]

it does indeed have a heatsink

[sweet phoenix]

this wont run most demanding releases

[velvet summit]

also yeah....

1650 in 2024 lol

[cedar compass]

it have very early m2 ssd which don't have 4tb version so they put 2x 2tb ssd inside lmao

[velvet summit]

that's like a gtx 1070 perf right

i forget what it was a similar perf to

fine for esports i guess if that's what they play

[south sapphire]

She added a 4070

I am pretty sure that’s what she switched it out for

[velvet summit]

honestly at that point it probably would have made more sense to do a completely custom build instead of buying and upgrading a prebuilt like this

cpu also is quite underpowered

might be fine for a 4070.... at least in titles that don't need much cpu performance at least

[south sapphire]

Ok she added a 3060 or 3070

But switching out the GPU and added the M.2 is the extent of the upgrades

[velvet summit]

how much did the prebuilt cost? and when was it bought

[south sapphire]

It had 8 GB Ram and upgraded it to 16

Bought Christmas regularly $850

And bought it for $700

[velvet summit]

hmm..... still wasnt a good deal lmao

[south sapphire]

I don’t doubt it…I really honestly believe all pieces of tech are overpriced s

But that’s just what I think

If anything is a good deal, either something wrong with it or the shelf life remaining is not long

[velvet summit]

i wouldn't say all, but nvidia really be pushing the bar higher .... or lower?
higher in price, lower in value for what you pay for lol

[tranquil pebble]

Apple of GPUs

[south sapphire]

Or unless you get lucky and someone really needs money and trying to off load something or they don’t care about money and just want to get rid of it

We don’t know much about PC’s

[velvet summit]

well, at least macos lets you buy cheap and honestly well made software for a one time price
like pro tools and uhhh logic pro

[south sapphire]

That’s why I am in this group. I know the basic stuff but I couldn’t put together a PC and make it look presentable if you paid me

[icy ore]

I still can’t

I mean I can put it together but suck at wiring

Lmao

[south sapphire]

Like I know GPU, Ram, and where the chip is and obviously the case, and I understand general basic knowledge of a PC bur don’t understand the different tech components and how they affect each other

When I bought my PC, I told the guy I just want the best available. Just hook it up. lol. I an a little more knowledgeable now as in I kinda know what case I want next time, but before this PC, the only thing I knew were the graphics were better

[velvet summit]

i've said this pretty often, but most people honestly don't need to know the specifics about a pc, just how to do basic diagnosis and parts swapping

there will always be online forums and chat services with people willing to help (whether for free or for a small fee) to help you decide on upgrades or full build lists

so people who might not quite want to spend the time could still save a bit of money by diy but not need to get into the nitty gritty of the industry

[south sapphire]

Well obviously online and internet helps, burn if there was no Reddit or YouTube, I know for a fact I couldn’t do anything like that without reading

But obviously people did that sort of thing before the internet

[velvet summit]

before somebody created pcpartpicker, it was alot harder to get into the hobby

but now with the massive database that pcpp has, it's easy to check for compatibility

and parts that are lower priced

[south sapphire]

All I am saying is I suggested she go a different route for the PC, but my different route would have been quite a bit more money because I don’t understand how to shop for parts other than looking at a list and seeing different PC components graded. Like I know 4070 is better than 3070, but I wouldn’t know that AMD chip is the way to go for gaming or like specific ram and/or other components work better even though they may not be as “good”

Is PC part picker updated

To reflect like brand new items

Is it user built or is there like a team of moderators that put that site together

Like if a brand new case comes out at like CES, would you be able to see if such and such GPU would fit

[clear orchid]

are these fine temps while gaming

[south sapphire]

When jt talks about compatibility, does it talk take in account size of components or strictly from a technical perspective?

[velvet summit]

Yes, it probably has like 90% of the parts available
Maybe just not the most obscure ones

[velvet summit]

It does have a rudimentary size compatibility checker though it's not 100% accurate, and you should double check, but this is only mainly important for small form factor builds

[south sapphire]

Thanks for helping ya’ll

[rancid juniper]

could be better, but its fine

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/eZgzH1928JM

Uploaded on my birthday

[south sapphire]

Do you guys suggest a better drive for the price

If you have any suggestions, we can take it back

And I can always get something off Amazon. She doesn’t really do Amazon but she could if it’s a better deal than the SSD we got

Many times she just looks at price of stuff and not really value when it comes to stuff like this

[sweet phoenix]

Mp44q is $51

It's better, but the difference really won't be noticed by most people

[south sapphire]

Is there a better deal on maybe a 2TB

[sweet phoenix]

Mp44q 2tb fs

$95 i think

[south sapphire]

I know it will be more expensive but maybe get 2TB and not have to upgrade again sort of thing

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pFNYcf/teamgroup-mp44q-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8ffd002t0c101

[velvet summit]

2tb is like the sweet spot of $/gb

[south sapphire]

Any reason why you suggest that model/brand?

Never heard of that brand ….

[velvet summit]

Value

Also it's a trusted brand

[south sapphire]

The brand is Teamgroup?

[sweet phoenix]

It's a great ssd, on par with the crucial sn850x, hynix p41, Samsung 980 pro, etc

Teamgroup is great

[velvet summit]

Yes

[sweet phoenix]

They've been around a good while and use a lot of the same components "mainstream" brands use.

[south sapphire]

Kinda like all the same benefits of the other drives just not paying for the name/logo?

[sweet phoenix]

It's your choice but I've suggested the drive over 100 times by now and haven't had any complaints. I can grab a diff suggestions

[south sapphire]

I’m def gonna look into it for my next build

Oh no I appreciate it man

[sweet phoenix]

Pretty much

[velvet summit]

Team group is a fairly large brand but just not as well known as Samsung or such

[south sapphire]

She is out of town…gonna swap it out when she gets back

[velvet summit]

But Samsung is a very large company

[south sapphire]

That’s why I joined this community

[sweet phoenix]

I know I wasn't trying to come off annoyed, I genuinely dm grabbing another option

[south sapphire]

I would have never heard of that brand. I read a lot of random tech news and stuff and crazy to think never heard of that brand

[sweet phoenix]

It's not my money I won't decide for you lmao

[south sapphire]

Don’t think I have heard of anyone else mention it in other communities

I def. appreciate it. Gonna have her swap out that Crucial and go with that

[sweet phoenix]

Teamgroup, silicon power, thermalright, montech, antec, some other brands aren't very mainstream necessarily but make a ton of great parts

[south sapphire]

When you say it’s better but won’t notice difference, guessing you mean read/write speed is a little faster

[sweet phoenix]

Thermalright is more widely known now tho

[south sapphire]

Don’t think have ever seen any of those brands on Amazon

Do they all sell on there?

[sweet phoenix]

It's a lot faster, mp44q is 7200mbps if i remember right. However games really don't care about peak read/write speeds

[sweet phoenix]

Either there or newegg

B&h and adorama are also good websites to buy from

[south sapphire]

Guessing Newegg the shipping is comparable to Amazon

[rancid juniper]

hmm newegg website had a slight redesign huh?

[south sapphire]

Basically free shipping

Fast shipping

[frigid stag]

Not just that

[sweet phoenix]

I'm not a fan of newegg or Amazon, I just buy from whatevers cheaper typically

[frigid stag]

You have to look at the kind of ssd, I’d avoid qlc

[sweet phoenix]

Varies item to item, and on location

[frigid stag]

Go for tlc

[south sapphire]

Yea, I personally like shopping online because there are so many more options and choices

[frigid stag]

Some of them are cheap cause they’re qlc and or dram less

[sweet phoenix]

For why

[south sapphire]

Thanks ya’ll

[frigid stag]

Lasts longer

[south sapphire]

I’ll def stop by tonite and chat.

[south sapphire]

I wish I did

[sweet phoenix]

Source?

[frigid stag]

LOL

[south sapphire]

Girlfriend request

[frigid stag]

Can’t rn but maybe this https://superuser.com/questions/1816522/how-much-longer-of-a-lifespan-do-tlc-ssds-have-compared-to-qlc-ssds

[south sapphire]

Have a good one ya’ll. Thanks again for all the info

[sweet phoenix]

Most sata ssds are qlc and I've seen plenty of those live 10-20 years

[sweet phoenix]

Peace

@worthy meteor

That shorter life span could be from 30 years to 25 years

[velvet summit]

Unusable

[sweet phoenix]

I'd want to see samples specifically

Yes ofc

Was just random numbers

From what i know, as long as you're not doing consistent writes, like someone doing video editing or content creation in general, it doesn't really matter

[south sapphire]

On the hard drive note, so I had all these mechanical drives that had a power cable to wall to run. So like you plug it in the wall and a couple of them would also need USB power to actually boot up to see all the contents

I went about 8-9 years without using them and they sat. They sat in a bin. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM the power supply was shot. I enddd up paying to have one restored because not only my backup but my backup backups. Don’t ever buy those drives.

I bought those back in 2008-2010 when I knew nothing about that sort of thing and they were cheaper than Mobil drives (no wall power cable needed). Somewhere along the line, the power supply terminal just crashed and went to crap.

Still don’t know what caused it.

[idle nexus]

Macrium has a thing to rebuild the bootloader

[hoary zodiac]

did you delete the efi?

[idle nexus]

MacriumRescue.iso

[worthy meteor]

QLC cells themselves don't have to be any more or less reliable, it all depends on the specific piece of nand, there's crappy tlc that's less reliable than good qlc, and there's crappy qlc that's less reliable than good tlc

qlc nand are slower natively, and have smaller pslc caches because of how the cells work

[idle nexus]

it runs outside Windows

[hoary zodiac]

I'm more worried about controllers than nand tbh

[idle nexus]

let me run it to show you what it looks like hold on

it runs on my Ventoy drive as one of the ISOs

one second I had CPU set to run 60x all-core & didn't fix vCore before I stopped playing around with it so gotta fix that first lol

this 13900KS is toasted for sure lol

[sage sluice]

Just got mah first tattoo (its a little red from swelling, plasma and what not)

[worthy meteor]

there are good cheap qlc drives that perform better for most tasks

like for example mp44q can hit 7000/6500

that's a lot faster in terms of seq compared to sn570

[idle nexus]

So first I go here

[hoary zodiac]

iirc mp44 > mp44q > mp44l

[idle nexus]

Then it goes here

[hoary zodiac]

Something something mp44L has worse controller

[idle nexus]

I'll see if I can find a link for it

https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW80/How+to+create+a+Rescue+Media+ISO+image+file

but you'd need it working... eh

oh wait you can get to win8.1?

okay go to Win8.1 & open cmd as admin

in Explorer note the letter of the drive with windows missing

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hrLdnQ/teamgroup-t-force-g50-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8ffe002t0c129
This is TLC

[idle nexus]

then in the cmd try:

bcdboot [drive letter from explorer]:\Windows

it should say "the operation completed successfully"

[sweet phoenix]

5000/4500

[idle nexus]

so is this